Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 241 | How Phil Fixed His Hip, Going Shady Places & No, We Are Not Under the Ten Commandments

Episode Date: March 14, 2021

Phil managed to become a star football player with one leg shorter than the other, but all it took to fix the problem was five bucks. Jase takes issue with the widespread Christian belief that we're still under the Ten Commandments. If you've wondered what it really means when he says there are no rules, this is the episode for you. The guys also discuss whether it's sinful to skip church meetings, go shady places, and hang around with shady people. And Phil shares what the Bible has to say about keeping things simple. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Well, that was interesting. I'd never seen your, uh, the healing that took place. A lot of these people overanalyze this. You, you got chronic back pain. It was like, I don't know what's going on. And you were fixed with a $5 boost to make your leg longer than the other one. That's right. Five bucks. Five dollars. And the guy, he said, go get an MRI and let me look at it.

Physical therapist, not like a 10 years in school. He just said, get that from him. I said, so we'll get a picture taken of it. Everything is fine except his sacrum is where your buttocks are on both sides. That's where you both your hip, one hip joint and the other one. Well, you know, it would help probably if that. was level. Yeah.

Mine was like this. It's cocked down a little bit. Was it a football injury or you think he was born that way? No. Born that way. So he says, so his sacrum's out of line. And I said, well, how do you fix that? He said, put a pad on you, the short leg.

He said, lay down on the floor. I laid down on the floor. He took a tape measure. He said, yep. He said, that's your, you're right. leg. I wish I could have seen this. He said, your right leg is about almost a half inch shorter than your left one. I said, so you got two options. I said, well, why is my left hip hurting if my right leg is too short? He said, because your sake is gone down on the right side and it's causing some

little inflammation on the left hand side. He said, but there's nothing wrong with your hip. He said, your hip looked like that of a young boy. You got two options. You can either make one shorter. Yeah. I'll cut the other one off. Well, yeah. So to match up.

So they decided instead of to cut the long one off, you know, cut a cut it and shorten the thing. They decided to build the other side up. And he goes out in his car and he comes back. And he had one in his hand. He said, I have a few extras here. He said, he threw it over at him. He said, I don't know. it out and I said

certainly not I said what's that thing cost that pad he said five dollars I said well give me my bill for I said now I'm trusting what you what you're I said this has got to be one of the I've got a rare genetic disease he said oh no he said hundreds of them sometimes he said in fact he said there's a large percentage of human beings

where one leg is shorter than the other one he said you're one of them. I said, so that's just common. He said, we see it all the time. What's amazing to me is you were, I mean, an NFL caliber quarterback. Could you, or were you fast? I just had a quick release with a football. Oh, so you weren't mobile in the pocket. And I could take a step and throw the ball 65 yards. You know, I'd just take a step and throw it 65 yards. Or I could get a running start. It still goes 65 yards. But did you ever like scramble and run? Could you, I mean, was you, or were you more like a, were you more like a Ben? Rossless, well, he's pretty, that's probably a bad example. I've got obliterated and just obliterated that linemen are coming.

They're screaming as they're coming. Or running very heavy. They're coming after you. I weigh 175 pounds and they weigh 220, 2.30, 240. You weighed more than that. And they just, at the time, that's what I weighed. Really? 165 pounds.

So here they come. And every time, back in that day, every time you threw it, 1001, then they hit you. They hit you on the ground. Now they hit me high, they hit me low, they hit me every way you could be hit, and everybody was going, yay. Now they 15-yard penalty for what they were doing to me.

Yeah. They finally said, they're going to kill him quarterbacks. I mean, there's five of them coming at him, and they ain't him slowing down. He throws it, then they hit him like I couldn't stop. You know. Yeah. So I took a little...

So I took a current and constant. Did they do the little bounce move on you? Oh, what are you talking about? A lot of them, you're coming back to the right and you're a half back. You have a split back field. The halfback folks to get to the left and protect my rear, rear. So I'm coming back. I'm looking down the field.

I don't have eyes in the back of my head. But instead of him going out there and blocking the dude, he turns the wrong. wrong way, it kind of kind of gets up in the middle trying to rooster fight. Well, here comes the defensive end. Most of them are about 6, 4, 6, 5, 2.30. And here they come, just like this, coming toward me, my back's turned. And as soon as I get back there, 1001, 1002, they just dropped. And back in the day, a headbutt was what you longed for.

Get your head and butt him. And I would come over there just my face. masts rooting up the dirt so i got dirt all on my face masks where my head just went just scraping up the dirt i'd run off the field after that and everybody would run up i said you all right i mean because they thought oh that he's hurt yeah but i said yeah i'm all right i said that that was a bruiser i said son you turn around you chew your half back out don't do that anymore you got to protect me on the back man yeah you know he blitzed maybe that's how your leg might have gotten shorter it didn't help me Yeah.

Well, and there are some genetic issues in our family because, you know, Granny had the scoliosis, which is more up, you know, on your shoulder blade. But Phyllis has it, and so does Cy and Judy had it as well. You got to remember when the phone call came down and Gordon Dasher figured it out because he's married to my sister before she passed on. And he said, Gordon says, you know, I've done a little research. He said, it's worse than we thought. Instead of third cousins, my mom and dad, Ma and Paul, instead of third cousin, they were second cousins.

Yeah, here we go. It's all makes sense. You know, when you start the little inbreeding factory, you know. The tree doesn't have many four. You start coming out with one leg longer than the other one. You're like, ooh. I don't know how accurate. You all that is.

You're mad with second cousin? Yes, second. I think he was kidding. No, I'm not kidding. No, I think he was. But, hey, I don't know. I'll take it. I want everybody to know that when people hear us expounding on various issues,

some are like, ha, ha, ha, you know, the people that say there's no God and all. The Lord protects, this is some, I did a research study on keep it simple, or the simplicity of the way you approach the Bible. The Lord protects the simple heart. I've often said and some say with a certain amount of pride that I'm a C plus person. Now I don't know how simple-minded that is, but you just had to figure it out on your own. I'm not a brain. The Lord protects the simple-hearted.

When I was in great need, he saved me. Psalms 116 during my research, I'm just giving you some verses that deal with the simple-hearted or simple minded, you're not a genius and how can you function. But God in great patience and great detail, Psalms 116, Psalms 119, Psalms 119, Psalms 119, you just start through all these verses and you work your way up to Matthew saying that the simple, the simple minded are the ones that the kingdom like little children, they have it, they don't have. have the brain yet. He said, that's the kind of people that end up in the kingdom. So I feel pretty good. It was quite the study, because I just wanted to know,

well, how much the Bible talks about, just keep it simple. You know, we believe there's a God. We believe he created the heavens and the earth and us. He became flesh, 2,021 years ago, died on the cross for our sin, buried, raised from the dead. There's the resurrection, the conquering of death. And you said, say, well, what else is, where's the deep, deep religious truths? I'd have pretty well covered what I just said. That's what all this is about. It is simple, Al, but profound.

Yeah, I think you're exactly right. And I think that's where people run in a, run afoul when they try to make it more than it is. I mean, it's, you know, we've been studying the Bible here on this podcast for a couple of years. Obviously, you know, we love studying it. we love to discover things that apply to us, but you're right. I mean, it's a core understanding that always you, that's where you rest on, that's where your salvation is. You don't want to get out there too far where these things begin to upset the core of who you are, I think. Well, I mean, you look at all the great institutions from the universities in our country

who are deemed the elite, the smartest of the smart. When it comes to the origin of life, and how to extend life, they got nothing. Very little. They got nothing. They don't even cover it historically. They don't really look at the historical Jesus, which is pretty dumb. The college professor that is now a brother up there,

I asked him, I said, you were in the history department. In fact, he taught your history class when you attended Northeast there for a while, old Sandy. Yeah, he did, and he was really, he was a good teacher as well. Hey, let's take a quick break, Dad. Yeah, he said they were not allowed to cover the historical Jesus. He said, I was not allowed to provide that information. When we got to there, he said, we just jumped over it and kept on going.

Because it's a fear. They're, you know, if you can't discuss all subjects, what are you scared of? Why not deal with it? Look into it. Who was Jesus historically? we have anything written about him? You're like a lot was written about it. You would think they would at least cover him,

but I went to college for eight years, earned two degrees. No one ever brought his name up, not once. Yeah. That's why I think Ephesians is right, is our struggle's not against flesh and blood. So quit getting mad at the professors and the universities, but it's against the spiritual forces of evil because there's some kind of hidden agenda

where it can't even be discussed. So you know it's not, it makes no sense. Remember when Stephen preached to them, they put their hands over their ears. Yeah. They were just screaming with their hands over their ears because he had just told them, you violate the law,

they were given the law, you know, who now break it. And you, you murder the author of life. I mean, and boy, I mean, did they, that was the historical Jesus they were talking about. But boy, did they get fired up.

They killed a man, Stephen, on the spot. And there, the Saul or Tarcese said, did that study. They would kill you if you brought up the simple simplicity of Jesus coming down in flesh, dying, being buried, raised from the dead. That's all he was saying. He was just preaching them the message.

And it's amazing they killed the spokesman one after the other. it is amazing that it took hold anyway. And we're all right. We're products of that. You remember in Stephen's sermon in Acts 7? He told him, he said, you mentioned the prophets. And he said, you, our people, you have killed the prophets one right after the other, right up until the point of where you killed Jesus.

Who predicted he was coming. Yeah, exactly. You couldn't even predict. It's the same mindset. Jason is right. though, you can't look at worldly institutions as a believer and think, well, this, you know, they need to get this right in terms of what's biblical. They're never going to get it right, which, which that means we are the ones that have to do it. They're not even on try. They're not.

They don't, they're not. I don't know why, you know, it's like all my kids, I'm proud to say, are way smarter than me currently. They have way more knowledge. Well, I think you and I all are smart than me. This is weird. Y'all are well-school, so. What's the circle of life? I don't know. But, I mean, the one thing I have studied is the Bible. And it's not that I'm real smart.

It's just the day in and day out, the sheer volume of studying with people and having discussions, well, you know, after a while, I can't, I can't memorize anything. but I pretty much have the New Testament memorized as far as where everything is. And it's not because I tried to do that. It just by constant use, it's just happened. So I don't know. Maybe that makes you smart that way. But to me, it's going to come down to deleting people to a relationship with the one who wrote it,

which is in a way actually more brilliant than knowing the scripture. if you know the person who wrote it. So that's why I think it kind of flies in the face of academia. Maybe that verse that says knowledge puffs up, but love builds up, is something there. Because a lot of religious groups that I know if they want to get into the deeper things of God or the theology, and you know what happens, we all know. They wind up arguing with each other. There's no love.

It's like, and just fighting mad over. not agreeing on things that are so deep that nobody really knows anyway. But, I mean, that's a problem in our society in the religious world. Would you agree? Oh, a big problem. And meanwhile, that's why I say whether I go to people who are simple-minded

or people who are very smart with events that I do, it's the same simple message. I try to keep it as simple as possible because it really is simple. Yeah. I heard somebody expounding on something, and I said,

what can that individual, he's supposed to be some Bible scholar in the 1600? I said, what can he give me that I don't already have with Jesus? And his reply was, well, you would get deeper truths of the Bible. Yeah. And it would motivate you. You'd be motivated.

And I said, oh, I'm already motivated with what knowledge I have. I said, let's see, my sins have been removed. You're telling me about this guy in 1600. I said, my sins have been removed because of what Jesus did on a cross. He's guaranteed I'd be resurrected from the dead. So he's provided an escape route. I can live beyond the grave. Constant monitoring and making sure anything, any mistakes are covered.

he's there to mediate for me 24th. I said, dude, I said, that's as deep as I'm digging. I said, to me, that is the deep truths of the Bible. My sins are removed and I'd be raised from the dead. I said, man, but he said, I would have more motivation if I'd read what this guy said in 1600, the mid-1600s. I said, no, I don't know who he is. Jesus, I know.

I'd read about him, but I don't know where your dude is. I don't read about him in the Bible at all. Well, I think it comes from the, you know, pastors like Hebrew 6 that says, let us leave the elementary truths, you know, about Christ and go on to maturity. And it kind of lists some simple things, you know, repentance and from sin and, you know,

faith in God. But I think his whole point was they weren't putting those things into practice. I mean, I think the Bible looks at maturity as more of, it's not just believing in Jesus, acknowledging that he's real, but there's actually a maturity that comes from your life where he lives in you and you're doing these things, you know. But most people think, oh, there's some,

if this is elementary, there's some college course in here somewhere that I need to learn that's beyond Jesus and daily life. And that's where you get into trouble, in my opinion. I mean, I don't know what y'all think. Well, I think you're right, Jay. You know, I'm a bit of an Old Testament buff. You know, I loved it when we studied it when you and I were in school together. And I kept studying it.

And what it did for me, it didn't make me like want to go under law. You know, what it did was it just showed me the power. It enhanced my understanding of the gospel because I just saw how God it worked it all the way through. and he was the same. I mean, yesterday, today, and forever. So it was Yahweh dealt with people a little bit differently than Jesus did when he came here. But it was the same God. It was just historically a different time.

So all that helped me in my understanding, but it didn't change any of the simplicity of what the gospel does and who Jesus is. So I think that's the way you have to approach Bible study, you know, as an enhancement of who God is. Well, right, because it's leading you to a relationship instead of a, of a, of a, diploma in that oh you've learned all the books of the Bible because that's what we do you know with kids and Bible class that we give them facts facts facts facts facts facts which is fine yeah but at some point the fact has to reveal itself as a living being that you can have a relationship with because I read that in Hebrew 6 but you know I think it's 1st Peter 2 there it says something about uh like newborn babies

you know, crave spiritual milk and then all the references Jesus said, unless you change and become like little children. I mean, there's a part of us has an innocence like a kid to a father as God that is important. And that's so simple that people miss it.

And then another part is there is something about maturity, but it's more about putting who Jesus is in your life, I understand repentance, and we understand what immaturity is in the church. You see people, they say, oh, Jesus is the Lord of my life. And then the next night, you know, they go to, you know, some bar going to, you know, share Jesus in quotation marks.

And they wind up, you know, in jail making a phone call. And you're like, well, what happened? Well, it was just a pretty immature stunt. This is not Jesus living. Now, you could have justified it. And I think that's more what it is. It's not because you understand, you know, the book of Ezekiel back in the Old Testament on how the rattling bones of, where's that Ezekiel 36? Or somewhere in there.

On, on that God has the power to make armies out of dead bones and all the issues of why Ezekiel wrote that, you know. Right. Well, let's take another break. There was a, I got a letter this last week. week when the usually stuff that comes to the church i'll get it on sundays when i'm there and i got a letter from a couple i think they're from arkansas it was a nice letter but they they're struggling with us talking about uh and jes they use your phrase that there are no rules in in christianity and they're trying to wrap their brain around it and so i wanted to bring it up at some point

for us to talk about it because what they said was that they want to be able to hold on to the 10 you know It's like we understand about everything, you know, all the other laws, but those 10, you know, we got to keep those. You know, we got to hold up, that has to be part of, part of what we're doing. And I hadn't responded to them because I thought we'd talk about it at some point. But I think it's just what we're talking about today that you can't, you can't take part of the old covenant and somehow keep yourself under it. So that idea. So let's talk a little bit about that, just the idea. We've discussed it before, but it keeps coming up. I read somewhere that 80-something percent of Christians, in quotation marks, believe that we're under the Ten Commandments. And I'm like, what's it? Right. Now, before you say, what the heck, those are good principles. Yes, there's right and wrong, there's good and evil, and we have responsibility to do the good. everybody agrees with that it's more about the motivation are you gonna it'd be like to compare this to

marriage because if you look if you fast forward and this is off the top of my head so i'm i'm rambling to a point but if we're married to jesus which we are right we're the bride of christ well i'm married in my own life married to missy if on day one i went in there and said okay here are the 10 rules that you will follow. And let's say they were all good things. I will guarantee you if that was my approach on day one, it probably would have not gone well. It wouldn't have gone well.

And so you said, well, what's your point? My point is we're not under law. Colossians 2 is very clear on that. When Jesus died on a cross, he nailed that to the cross. we are no longer under the supervision of the law. Galatians 3. I mean, how many would I have to read for people to say, well, that's what it says.

It's for freedom. Christ set us free. So then you say, well, how come we do right? And when you throw in Romans 6, should we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means. We died to sin. No.

So we surrendered ourselves. We come in contact with the blood of Jesus. He nailed the law to the cross. And so we're motivated to do right because one, Jesus died for our sins. And number two, he forgave us when he died. So there's a motivation. So grace, the grace of God teaches us to say no to worldly passions and pleasure. But we're not doing it to keep the rules.

We're not under rules. There are no rules. That's why we're saying that. So people think, well, if you don't make rules, you'll never, do right. And I say, O Contrere, it's a love-based relationship-oriented trust

that you wake up every day and said, I died, Roman 6, because he makes that argument, and Jesus died for me, and I'm going to try to do right because I love Jesus, and I appreciate what he did for me.

So, so if a human being, a human being, says, I live by this code. I love my God and I love my neighbor. If I do so, more and more like Jesus did. He loved the Father. He loves us.

So you're left with, you say, let's see now. So am I going to budge on obey God and Him only? He said, no, I'll have him enough. I'm going to do what he says. I'm going to try my very best to do what he said. I'm not going to bow down to anything or anybody other than him, the God of heaven. I'm not going to, let's see, number three, I'm not going to misuse his name. A person who loves God is not going to have slips of the tongue where they curse God.

No, they're not going to do it. that. They're going to learn to be so in love with him. They're never going to mock him by cursing with their mouth here. Then you say, so he said, work six days, rest one. Sounds like it makes sense to me. Have a day of rest every week. Sounds good to me. You say, so as a pattern, yep, that'd be, that would be, but it's not a law. Not a law. If you worked seven days in a row, that somehow another, you've breached the written. That's right. That's right. You say, that's a good policy. Take my day of rest. But you say, but what if, what's the difference between Saturday and Sunday? I said, no difference. It's time. Then children obey their father and mother. You say, yeah, they love God and they love each other. They tend to turn out better. Don't murder. I think it's pretty common sense. You don't murder. I'm going to love my neighbor. I'm not going to kill him. You say, I'm not going to go around murdering my neighbor. I'm going to love them.

Don't steal, don't lie, and don't covet. If you look at all those things, you say, you will develop a righteousness if you go forward and you love God and you love your neighbor. You don't get up and say, I've got to make sure today that I don't steal from my neighbor like I've been doing. I don't go over there when he's not there and steal his stuff. I love him too much for that.

He's my neighbor. I love him. I'm not going to steal his stuff. instead of saying I've got to make sure I don't steal today because in the past I had a habit of doing a lot of thievery so I got to make sure every day. But I think people are going to say, well, you're saying the same thing.

You're doing the same things, but it's a big difference because when you have it like a rule system, like we're under law and rules, then all of a sudden you make up rules under the rules. So it's like, you know, you could take, let's just take, Hebrews 10 where it says don't give up a meeting together

as some are in the habit of doing. Well, there's some people who are rule-oriented. Based on that verse, if you miss a meeting, they call it sin. Because they've made a rule system based on what they're reading and there's no wiggle room.

Now, they'll say, can be forgiven, but you've got to confess that. Well, my deal is, if you're in love with God and you understand you're not under a rule system and you do miss and your heart is right, let's say you miss two in a row. You're not, you're not sinning. There's not, this is not a rule system. When you're, you know, you're right, Jays. Hang on, Dad. Let's take another break. You're right, Jay's. And the reason what's that right. writing you used Hebrews 10 because that's what I was thinking this and this is great and for you folks that sent me that letter from Arkansas reading the book of Hebrews is the biggest help for you because

think about it's hard for us to wrap our mind around it now 2,000 years later think about how much harder it was for those initial Jews who had been under this system all this time to then embrace this freedom and that's why they kept kept doing it like they just switched the Sabbath to Sundays. Some of them are like, yeah, well, now the Sunday's the Sabbath, but they did that, you know, that wasn't from God. So it's hard to not want to live under rules. And dad's right. You want to live in such a way that you're motivated by what Jesus said, because he said all the law can be summed up in these two things. Love God, love your neighbor. So when you look back, you say, well, what was the purpose of the law of Moses to begin with? All these things in Hebrews

nine, the first covenant, the law of Moses. had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary, the temple. Well, you drop on down, everything had been arranged where they'd go in there, and the priest would enter regularly into the outer room to carry on their ministry, but only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins of the people committed in ignorance. The Holy Spirit was showing by the...

this, and to your point of a while ago, Jace, that we're not under law, the Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the most holy place had not yet been disclosed. God had not become flesh yet and never break a rule or a law, as long as the first tabernacle was still standing. This is an illustration for the present time, indicating that the gifts and sacrifices being offered were not able to clear the conscience of the worshipper. It just wasn't happened. There are only a matter of food and drink and various ceremonial washings, external regulations applying until the time of the new order. Help is on the way. When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here, he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle

that is not man-made. That is to say, not a part of this creation, not something built out of wood or stone or gold. He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves. He entered the most holy place, once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption. The blood of goats and bulls

and the ashes of a heifer sprinkle on those who are ceremonial unclean, sanctify them so that they're outwardly clean. How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit, offer himself unblemish to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death so that we may serve the living God? For this reason, Christ is the mediator of a new covenant that those your call may receive the promise eternal inheritance. now that he's died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the First covenant. If you can't grab it from there, I don't know what to tell you.

That's why, look, Phil, the next chapter, which is chapter 10, I've heard sermons, and I've heard people say that, you know, about the not meeting together, that's in 1025. because 1026 says if we deliberately keep on sinning after we're shooting all the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left. They're like, if you don't meet together, because those two verses are beside each other, they're like, that's a deliberate sitting. Oh, he's not saying that at all. He's saying the whole picture of 10 is the old law versus the new law.

And we even see that in our world, you know, movies that portray, this that people are sacrificing bulls and goats they always make it creepy and crazy and oh they're this is some kind of cult ritualistic these people are nuts because they're trying to do anything you know from an academia standpoint to disrupt the old testament because they're like oh that's just which it is kind of crazy that that was going on but then here comes a man that's not crazy Jesus, the image of God, and he is capitally punished for the sins of the world after proving beyond the shadow of doubt that he's God.

And that message that he sends to us is that he's for us. He loves us. There'll be no more rule system. There'll be no more sacrifices needed. And so guess what? Let's meet together. Let's spur one another in the name of Jesus. I mean, two chapters later he's going to say,

say, let us fix our eyes on the author and perfector of our faith. Jesus, let us throw off the sin that's so easily entangled. So it's more of a maturity thing when you back all the way up to where we started with Hebrew 6. I mean, if you're claiming to love Jesus and have gone all in on Jesus, and you've reenacted Jesus in water and you buried the old self, it seems kind of silly if you're out there on a daily basis, doing a lot of cutting up.

And if you're never, you know, or you're in the habit of not meeting with the brothers and you're cutting up, well, that just seems kind of silly. Not because you're under law, it's just because you've made a vow to God in Jesus that you're simply not keeping. It's not true.

Simply put, Jesus said, here's the deal, I'm coming down. I'm going to keep every jot and tittle of the law. I'm going to actually keep it. But I'm the only one. ever that will in fact have kept it 100% flawlessly perfect. Of course he could say, by the way, I wrote it. So what he wrote, he kept and then said, all you have to do is put your faith in me,

I'll become sin for you, and I'll get rid of it by my sacrifice, the one sacrifice, no animals. I keep it and I'll die to bring you I from under. That's what he did. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing. That's why he said that. Go ahead. Let's take another break.

So that's why he said that the law, along with prophecy and everything, was fulfilled in him. So that was the whole purpose of everything. So, Jay, she started this out with an illustration in marriage. And that's exactly what Paul. did in Romans 7 to get into this discussion. And here's what he, after he talked about marriage, then he said in verse four, he, so my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another to him who was raised from the dead in order that we

might bear fruit to God. And so, I mean, that's pretty clear. The idea there is that in Christ, the law holds no bind on anybody anymore because it's been fulfilling him. The law is good. He goes on to say later, there's nothing wrong with law, because he asked the question, is the law sin? It's a great code. He said, it's a great code. There's nothing wrong with it because God wrote it.

The problem is if you try to keep that as part of your connection to salvation, you've put yourself under the whole law. You're going to be frustrated. Utility. And then you become a law enforcer, which is what a lot of church house is. to become. They're under law. Well, then you got to, if you're going to be under it, you got to enforce it. Or it's no good. If you don't enforce the law, so then you start getting into the weeds of lawbreaking and you become policemen. And every time you violate the law, you died again. I died again.

Last night, I blew it. I'm out. This is it. It's over. Well, there's a verse that addresses my point about the example I use in Hebrews 10, which I'm not sure. where it is, you Google it and find it. It says it is for freedom that Christ set us free, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil. So that's when people, what people struggle with is, well, how do I live a Christian life if I'm not under law? How do I live a Christian life and never make a mistake?

Well, but they'll say if you don't give me the law, then how am I going to know how to keep it? Well, there's four books in the Bible that I think shows you how to do that. Matthew, Bart, Luke, and John, if Jesus is your Lord and you read those on a continual basis, you will see how to act. And my point is, is this, let's take something controversial, which is Matthew 11, where it said that Jesus had a reputation for being a glutton and a drunkard. How do you get that reputation?

You go places that most Christians don't go, because, because true especially rule-keeping Christians, they don't have that reputation. Guess what? Because a lot of them would take that law, like say a bar and they'd say, that would be wrong. That would be breaking.

He's a wine bipper. The King James said, a wine bribber. But they would say, if a person said, I went to a bar, they'd say, well, that's a sin. Which is not.

Would you agree? I agree 100%. But they would try to make a law and they would give you the excuses on why that's true. But I know Jesus had that reputation. So where I made mistakes in my past, like with my kids, is I would tell them, you know,

they would have a friend that was shady, and I'd say, hey, you need to get away from them. You know, I was trying to protect my kid. But the more I got in touch with Jesus, I realized that he would go around shady people, and he would go to shady places. But he would never, exchange his character for it because we know that he never sinned. I mean, we have multiple verses

that say he never sin, he never sin, he never sin, he never sin, he never sin. But he had that reputation. So I'm like, that's how we should operate. But it's hard to operate like that because you've got so many rule-oriented Christians who are saying, oh, you can't go there. Don't be yoked with unbelievers. They'll take a verse, treat it like a rule. And if you associate with them, they're like, well, you're yoke with unbelievers. That's the sin. And look, some of y'all may think this is crazy. You're thinking people in the church don't really do that.

Every day and twice on Sunday, every day, they get into rule-oriented discussions about every little move that you make. And you're like, well, I'm trying to be like Jesus. They're like, yeah, yeah. No, I really am. I'm trying to go out there and save them. You're going to have to trust me, like we trust Jesus, that he would go into shady places and talk with shady people, but he wouldn't compromise his character,

and he wouldn't use his freedom as a cover-up for evil. You're just going to trust me on that. Which was the whole point of Luke 15, we've talked about before with the lost coin and the lost son and the lost sheep, was that started by them saying, look at this guy. I mean, look at the people he's hanging around with.

And then that prompted those three parables that he told, which we've talked about on the podcast. Jason, that verse you were referring to as Galatians 513. You, my brothers were called to be free, but do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature, rather serve one another in love. And then a lovely says in 14, the entire law is summed up in a single command. So Paul said, just one, love your neighbor as yourself, which is kind of the whole point. we've been talking about it. The first that came from Jesus, now Paul affirms it in all of his letters, but especially this one in Galatians, that you've been set free. But that doesn't

give you a right to go, you don't want to go around sinning because we died to that. Why would you want to live in that? Which he also says, Roma 6th. Yeah, I think that says the same thing. I think I was thinking of another verse, but that actually says it better. There's one that says don't use it as a cover-up for evil, which is interesting because your heart, the word cover-up, what does that imply? You're hiding something. Yeah, you're like, oh, I'm free to do anything.

I mean, a lot of us that have shared Jesus with people who have had some kind of addiction, you know, drugs or alcohol, that comes up a lot because they're like, well, I'm free to go anywhere. and do anything, but there comes a point where you know, if you've had a problem with this, it's probably wise in Jesus, grace motivated,

not to go there or run with them. And that's an individual decision, but I think that's what it means, because they're like, yeah, but I'm free just so you'll let them out of your sight, and then when they get out of your sight, they do all this mischief. But guess what? That's a heart problem.

And that's, there's nothing, you can't give them a set of rules and make them follow it, it's just not going to work. It's not going to work. It's not how God designed. I'm sorry, but he designed it to be grace motivated.

Yeah, you're a walk before God says a lot about who you are. You're walk. I was going to say, because that's the example that we use. But we hit it because it's really all about what motivates you. It was earlier discussion about why do people pontificate on all this stuff that doesn't mean anything and like to sound smart. It's like a politician.

I think people do that in the religious world. They like to make it sound like, well, they got it going on. And then how many times have you seen those people, then you find out later, they were sure making rules for you, but then for them, they had all kinds of bad stuff going on, a bunch of terrible stuff. It happens every single day. And then they just destroy whole churches because they put their faith in this person instead of in Jesus. So I see how it happens and you see the damage that it causes when you're,

you really don't have the right motivation on. Yeah, one good point in all of this is when we're working with our neighbors, they have to remember, I can't save them. Jace can't save them. Al, you can't save them. We can't save them. We're pointing them to the one who can, but they need to understand, you observe my walk, my life, my way of life.

You can observe that. but at the end of the day I cannot save you I'll just point you to the one who can I love you I'll be quick to forgive whatever mistakes you make and you just move forward that's about all we got

nobody's going to go through this thing mistake free I don't care how many rules they bring up it's just another rule that people break we're going to make some mistakes I would say keep the rules at a minimum at best that's exactly right which is a good way to end this discussion

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