Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 243 | Missy Robertson Makes Her Unashamed Debut, and Jase Is NERVOUS

Episode Date: March 17, 2021

A terrified Jase squirms his way through this episode featuring his wife, Missy, and Al can't get enough of it. Al's wife, Lisa, is back for more tales of family antics and high jinks, including how Phil dealt with a rodent infestation in the walls. (Hint: Fire was involved.) Missy finally tells her side of some of Jase's stories, and they get into her dad's feelings about Jase, her bug phobia, why she spent their Hawaiian honeymoon crying, how they brought hundreds of people to Jesus early in their marriage, and how Al and Lisa were there for her when she faced marital challenges. The couples also discuss Mia's final major surgery that will change the entire lower half of her face and the emotional roller coaster of cleft lip and palate surgeries. Mia Moo: https://miamoo.org/ - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? You see, this is exactly I anticipated that it would make Jay's nervous. Are we ready to start rolling? Yeah, well, Missy put your ears on. Oh, sorry. It's mainly for you to hear your level.

Look, and you've got to get used to. Oh, yeah. You want to be. Being close to the mic. See where I'm at. Three or four inches away, yeah. Oh, God, these things. Do you have child ones?

My head. is like tiny. It's got the child cans. I'm not kidding. I'm as nervous right now as I've been in years. If there's child, look, look. Yeah, I had to, I had to adjust my. Oh, they're all the way down.

It's only on one side. It's not right here. Help me, Lisa. I've never heard anybody ask for child. Well, I have like a turtle head. I think you should just run all this. What? No.

Yeah. I mean, I mean, Missy sits down and starts asking for child earphones. Well, see, mine's got the little thing right here. Yours doesn't have that. You want to wear these? Can we just, do all just want to not do this? No, we do want to do it because I want to throw you under the bus a couple of times. I'm usually not a high maintenance person, but I'm, look. Really? Well, that's all right. You look, you look fantastic. Can you hear? Can you hear yourself? Testing one, two, three. There you go. I'm nervous

Why is this so funny? Because, I mean, I've been thinking about this for a while. It's hard to make Jay's nervous about something, but bringing Missy on the podcast is accomplished it. It's like upended your world. Why are you here, man? I just thought that's a threatening question. I was giving you the opportunity.

It sounded a bit accusatory. She's here to defend herself. You throw her under the bus. First thing she said. So Jay's tells, Missy, Jay's tells all these tales about you on the, these arguments y'all have. And so we're,

obviously, we only hear one side of the, so I approached you a while back. I was like, you've got to come on to the pie. One is the, our fans and listeners ask about you guys all the time. Tell us about the women.

Why can't we see the wives? You know, because, you know, they're used to it from the show. Obviously, we're hidden away because you're nervous to have us in public. Which think about how ironic. that is.

I just said I was nervous. I didn't say why. Why are you nervous? Why don't you tell the audience why you're nervous? Well, be... Uh-oh. Yeah. That's me.

I thought I turned that off. Rookie move. The, uh, well, the fact that you started listening to the podcast. Period. That's why. That was it. Well, is there something that you want to clarify? No, I just figured that if you, you know, we do a lot of

talking and even though like jay came on and a little birdie told me that he had a different version of the story about the sandhill crane yeah so i heard what he said complete false he got that totally wrong for the record so anybody the last time jay was here saying that he did all the call and the you know i never i was doing a vocal rendition of the sound sandhill crane well the way that went down so I told I said jace told the sandhill crane story and he's and he said so I said you need to listen to it he did and he said all he just made up most of that story he said he made up making up the story so I figured you know I've talked about you on the podcast I try to be we did a whole podcast about some argument y'all had and then jace made a list I don't even remember

Wait a minute. I think I'm the one that should be nervous to be on here. I mean, you seem like you've got it all together. He made a whole list of rebuttals. I can't remember the... We do a lot of podcast. Let's move on. Okay.

Somebody needs to tell me what episode that is. We would have to argue. Jay's tell so many stories. Way to back your brother's play. No, I do remember. I fixed the dishwasher. I remember that story. Okay.

So what does the word fixed mean? I want to hear that one. I put two cinder blocks under. It was a balance issue. Let's don't go over this. It's really not that exciting. It's really not. And it's still there, though.

I still have a cinder block under my fixed dishwasher. I did an update on this story a while back. I said, are the center blocks still under the dishwasher? And he said yes. And so that shocked me because I thought that's very unmissy light to just leave the center blocks there but you i left the house i moved to austin i have a guy messy that can fix that for you i've seen y'all's guys i'm not so sure it'll be any better and the center blocks are a reminder that i have a certain set of magaver skills it's not my specialty i wouldn't call it mcgyver it's kind of a

redneck mcgiver there about he can take a toothpick and a stick of you know bubble gum and fix a build a nuclear bomb oil gasket that's more like a jimmy red fix i think what you did to that i'm proud so what are we talking about today we're just talking about life jess we're just we're just here to meander and ponder we got the women now we have the men that our podcast is so man centric that i like having the ladies on so mom and dad and lisa and i were on one It was very well received. So I've been one to have Missy own. Lisa and I have been battling mice.

The freeze drove the mice into our house. What? Oh, yeah. So I didn't know it. We do live in a trailer. Well, yeah, we do. We're in the double wide out back. Lisa's the queen.

It's a very nice drive. It is. Lisa's the queen of my double wide. Yeah. So. Manufactured house. Manufactured house. That's right.

We got to get. And it is nice. But so I noticed it because, Lisa and I have been eating a lot of avocado. We love avocado. So I get up in the morning, I go in, the avocados. I thought it was like some kind of fruit flies or something because it would be just the outs like it was shaved off the outside of the avocado.

I'm looking at that and I'm thinking. That's when you should have called me. Because I don't, that kind of stuff does not, when I see that, because when we were kids, you didn't get the tracking hunting skills. That was more of an instigree. That was my talent. I'm always looking around our house

at the dung of whatever animals. Well, that was the thing. I didn't see any. No, but if you're looking on a daily basis, because they always leave a trail. It took me a week to figure it out. It was a mouse.

Well, I saw it. Well, but you saw it a little after we figured out we had a mouse spot. So then we're like, so my deal was, look, I'm I'm a person that's giving. I mean, if you just, if you would live here and not eat my food or bother me or poop everywhere, I don't mind if they live in the walls. I mean, you know, I grew up out here.

They lived in the walls all the time. Yeah. As long as they don't mess with me. I mean, but then they. I think we have to exercise our dominion as caretakers of the animal world. Once you come into my house, your life is at extreme risk. Because they're not paying rent. They're not, you know, paying for the air conditioning.

They came in to get warm, which, again, you live in your place. You know, Lisa, like, oh, these things. So, but then they got up on the counter. Now you're an intrusion. So we got to kill them, right? So Lisa and I, we have no, I should have called Jay's. So we have no experience. So we bought some mousetraps.

We set the traps. Well, we set them wrong. So now this thing, we're put. Well, the first two, Al broke. I broke the first two trying to set them. And then I figured I set them right. And I didn't. This is borderline embarrassing.

Well, it is. And so wait until I get to the end of the story. So I set them out. They're eating like kings now because we're baiting the traps with peanut butter and avocado pieces. And every day we come in, they've just eaten it off the thing. And it didn't spring. This is all terrible.

Three days of this. So finally, Tony comes over. And Tony says, oh, I'm from Iowa. I'm used to my. So Tony sets the traps correctly. So first night, bam. Got him. Tony's skill set is that he's from Iowa.

That's his skill set. That he can paint. Hey, I'm from Iowa. I can catch mice. That's what he said. That's exactly what he said. Is it a corn thing? Does they have a lot of corn in Iowa?

I guess. Farm houses, maybe? We had them at the plantation because it's surrounding that field until we spread insulation. Hey, do you remember tell the story, Jay, speaking of my, and I'll finish my story a minute, but tell the story about the trailer. Yeah, I think I've told this story. I don't think we've told it on the bucket. But this is where I developed the mouse catching skills because Phil had a camp.

Now, it was a traitor, but it was a trailer that they had gotten off the side of the road. Yeah. It wasn't as nice as there. We'll make that. I mean, it's literally somebody said, here, take this. And Phil said, I'll take it. I mean, it's, I don't do that. You know, if I see a couch on the side of the road.

Which, by the way, we just passed four couches outside on the way here. It's like when I'm walking. through the woods and you run up on a t-shirt you're like I know there's a reason does that happen off oh yeah oh yeah and whatever happened there you don't want to touch it so if you see any kind of man-made object on the side of the road or in the woods you stay way don't touch that way away from no touch that but phil takes this trailer puts it on a hill water starts coming up this is the duck hole we only use it for a camp and one of his buddies had been standing there like a week and when we put and he was from Washington yeah yeah we pulled up and this guy had gone crazy I think he may have been

crazy but well no but you could tell something had happened and he's like the rats he kept mumming about mice and rats we opened the door and I would say two dozen went scampering I said I need some mousetraps so I go up, get some mouse traps. And look, when I, I said about, when I got to about the third one I'm setting, I got two dozen mouse traps. The first one went off. I was like, well, hey, buddy.

And this went on for 48 hours. Called over 200. And then somebody's got the glue pad, which is how we finally got ours. And it just covered them. They were just like crawling on top of each other. They drag it. Yeah. So eventually, so then we.

went to the poison and so because but that was a bad move because they go to water which we figure we're surrounded by water but they all went to the hot water tank

and what happened was they literally insulated the walls they died so much they became insulation because the smell started going so Phil started ripping

the wall the yeah just looking and it was the solid dead a mice and I said what are we going to do and feels like

burn it we literally that's how we left that hole with a trailer on a hill in flames it was the war of the mice

you know sometimes all he could do is just burn it down I mean that's all that's left I remember this you may not even remember this it's been a long time ago

and we lived in our house on Swiss streets that's been 25 plus years ago. Before children. That was your first house. That was our first house.

And so it was a little wood frame house. And we remodeled it through the years that we lived there just to basically get it livable. We bought it off HUD. Like we had to, you know, the HUD Housing Association where you had to like put in a bid. All of that. So we were super proud of our first house. Well, I don't know if y'all know my fetish with like, I can't do bugs. I don't like bugs.

I don't like anything to do with them. That's why you marry me. That's one of the few skillsets. I married an exterminator, basically. So here, I gave you a chance. I didn't know you had a bug. Oh, I don't do. I don't like him.

When he would take me out on the boat to go, like, on the river, I'm looking at that boat and I'm like, I don't want to get in that boat. There's more dangerous things to me in that boat. There's a lot of stuff crawling around. I'm like, I'm like making myself the smallest. I can possibly be sitting on that seat. And I'm just, like what Jay says,

I have my head on a sweat. On a, what do you call it? On a swivel. Yes. I'm just looking. But in our house on Swiss, we had those water bugs. It's an old house, up on blocks, you know. And I cannot stand those water.

We call them roaches, but they're those big black, ugly water bugs. Yeah, they're big. They're like over an inch or two long. The same one that crawled in Willie's ear. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So I, yes, different story.

Okay. So I, we got, you know, we try these different exterminating companies and they're just not doing what I feel like should be done, which means eliminate them. We get a new exterminating company and all of a sudden they are inside the house, like even more. So I go to bed. I don't know if you remember this. I go to bed. The 30 years of marriage had been filled with screams and terror over bugs. I actually have a J.S. scream.

that when I scream his name, he comes with a fly swatter. Like, it's something in me that... Or some sort of weapon. Something. You know at this point that there's some kind of... He's coming to kill something. Some kind of varmitted. I've had people over and the scream happened and they're like,

what in the world? I'm like, it's a creature. It's something with claws or hair. Hang on. Let's take a break. So, okay, so I go to bed because you were playing poker one night. And so I went to bed by my... myself and there comes a water bug crawling on the headboard over my head. And so I call you. I don't,

I don't know cell phone yet. I'm calling out where you are. I call over there. You get on the phone. I'm like, you have to come kill this bug. I can't go to sleep. You're like, are you seriously telling me that I have to get in the truck and drive over there and find this water bug? You are not happy. I said, yes. Did I come? And you came. At that point, our marriage

probably depended on it because I had to go to work the next day and you know how I am about my sleep. So I was like, it has to happen. And you came and I don't think

you talked to me the rest of the night. You were mad. Did I kill the bug? And I was able to go back to sleep. So this is in your first couple years of marriage because that was pretty hard. early in this situation.

Yeah. I just can't believe I did that. I'm from Ward 9. Bugs don't bother me. Yeah. Yeah, we grew up with both. I can kill anything. But let's, say, look at that, Jess.

We've learned something about you. We never would have learned. Had Missy and I been on the podcast that you were chivalrous and you came home to your damsel in distress and killed that water boat. I have no idea what that just means. Well, I remember calling the exterminating company saying, I you're not doing your job and they said well actually we are because we're flushing them out of the walls and when they flush them out of the walls then they'll die of the poison I said just let them be let them live in the walls

so I kind of see your point that's why I was with the they they can have a party all day long inside my walls if I never have to see them I'm fine with that so so we kill the we kill the mouse a nice pitch back missy so we kill the mouse and you know we're really thinking we're done because we had only seen one. Well, I didn't realize, you know, they come in packs apparently. And so I put my avocados back out. I don't have to hide them anymore. Everybody's happy again because they're ripening, you know, on the counter. Come back in, big hole in the avocado again. I thought we killed that guy. There's more. So then I got the stickies and put them out. First night out, we got three. So, which is a little bit more because when you come in, they're alive now,

I've got to kill them. You know, the mousetrap will just break. their neck. But now they're squeaking around, looking up at me, you know, just scratching on the thing. And Lisa's like, I don't know. What are we going to do now? I'm not, I'm pretty good at killing stuff. So I just took them and I put them in a bag, took them outside and then just, you know, killed them. And so I didn't have a problem with that. But now my question is, are there more? Because I thought about the poison, but I ain't crazy about that because I don't, I remembered that story. No, the poison. No, yeah. Because I don't want them dying in there. Then I got to smell them for whatever. We're going to buy some more sticky things.

any more sticky tracks. And just keep hunting them until they don't. You got to just go all in. You've got to eradicate the problem. You just keep setting the traps, looking at the tracks until. Well, I have kind of an obvious question. Where are they getting in? And can you just plug the hole?

Well, I don't know. It is. It's up off the ground. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if it's not exactly the, you know, when you're up off the ground, which is why we grew up with that over, you know, mom and dad's house. You know, we have an ice maker. So that's, that's.

that could be that hole we have the uh um cable vision it they drilled a hole in the floor for that somebody was jay was saying i mean they just need this much space to get if you just have they can make themselves right small i mean you got to you got to take them out and they're not you know like i said i'm not necessarily offended by them i just don't just i can't share my food with you and they poop everywhere i'm offended because they poop everywhere yeah that's that's rude I mean, just go poop somewhere. I mean, it was just poops in the pan drawer. And they carry diseases.

I just, I don't want them in my house. So we talked about, you mentioned the first. One of the things I want to talk about today on the podcast, because you guys, obviously, Lisa and I have been married, I guess, about, so y'all got married in what year? 90. And so we got married in 80. I was fixed to say that.

What are you looking at me for? I have that tattooed. I didn't even put it into the test. 30 years of bliss. Well, first of all, this just, I hadn't planned on, I hadn't planned on this story. But it just struck me. So I've got to, because Jay told the story about, we've all told the story about that none of our in-laws wanted us to marry our wives. Everybody was a hard no.

Should I not have said that? It's in the book. It's well documented. But so we've made mention of that. None of our in-laws liked us at first. Or that's not true. They didn't want us to marry as young as we did. Correct.

So, but I want to tell the story about, so y'all got married and you're going to Hawaii for your honeymoon. We've never told that story on the podcast before. Now that Missy's here, I want to, I would love to. I think I shared that. I had, you know, big dreams. Let's go on a honeymoon to Hawaii and let's take 800 bucks to cover that. Now, granted, this is 30 years ago, and $800 may not have been, you know, as much. Well, y'all got married on August 10th.

So I remember because it was like a week before Jason's birthday, which factors into the story. Six days. I think we went through that $800 in about an hour. I was embellishing for effect, but that's not enough money to go to Hawaii. You can't get out of the airport with $800 a lot. Okay. So I'll say, yeah, we did not plan well. So my dad flew us there on his frequent flyer miles.

We didn't have to pay for that. I forgot about that. So I guess we had patched things up by then. Oh, goodness, yes. He gave her to you. That's right. Well, he just didn't stop it. I don't think he ever said, I'm okay with this.

Oh, good grief. I just think he... He walked her down the aisle and gave her to you. But the last time I had seen him before that moment was that his phrase was absolutely not. The last time was a year and a half before we got married. Are you saying you never saw my dad for a year and a half? I saw him. He just never came back and said, oh, yeah, I'm fine with that now.

He just didn't say. It wasn't as much of him giving her way. He just got to step back. There was no reconciliation. I kept remembering the last time I said, well, we're going to do it anyway, with you or without you. There was never a moment where we got back together and said, you know what? I thought about that. Let's go with it.

that's why I was a little nervous about well can you say that there is any bigger fan of you than my dad at this point in your life that's exactly I agree there is no bigger me me but besides me it's my dad oh he loves in some jace now we've come a long way I mean because you got to remember we had three instances in consecutive moments that were all bad first was me proposing to his daughter that didn't go well

Number two, he calls me and says, there's a storm coming. I was like, yep, because now I realize he does that every time. He's like, it's a hail storm. You need to make sure you got all your vehicles in. I said, I just put them out. He said, what? I said, what are you talking about? I said, I just got the vehicles out there, and I'm praying that they get hammered by hail.

for the insurance money. Which I told together. Any good redneck is exactly what you do. He said, but it'll ding up your vehicle. I said, who cares? They'll pay you for that. Who cares how it looks? That's free money.

And he just got offended. He said, but you'll be driving around. Look at it like that. Yeah. His pristine cars are very important to him, so he doesn't understand why you would do that on purpose. So what was the third thing? The next one was I pulled my truck that I had bought for $1,500 was a great deal.

Probably with hail dammit. I parked in the driveway. He had a driveway. And he came out. He said, hey, does your truck leak all? And I thought, oh, he's recognized that. And he's going to give me a quick way to fix that. I said, yes, it sure does.

He said, do you mind moving it off my driveway? That's true. I said, well, isn't that what the driveway's for? Not in suburbia. So, I mean, you know, didn't start well. It was a culture shock. Everybody was saying how Phil and Kay we're going to have this big culture shock. But whenever we got married, and it was really my parents who had the culture shock, for sure.

Well, to embrace the redneck mind takes a lot. So tell us about it. So you get married, it was the next day you're flying away. So to walk us through what happened because there was a series of unfortunate events. Yes. So we get... Well, there was really just one.

I got sick. That led to, yes. I got strep throat. Yes, and you wouldn't let me call his mom. He wouldn't let me call anybody. You can't call your mom three days into marriage. I can if I'm like, I don't know what to do. It's an unwritten rule.

And I also was not a use. to the fact that you do not like to take medication. You're like, nope, I'm just going to tough it out. I wonder where he gets that from. I'm the son of a guy who refuses to take any deadening for any procedure. I mean, the man has had a root canal and his teeth extracted with no deadening. He had like some kind of thing cut out of his back, like cut out without any kind of anesthesia. He had a rod stuck in his eye.

And we stopped at the eye doctor And that says, okay, I need to deaden this and we'll get it out. It feels like, no. Just get it out. Just, just, just, we're all sitting there. I was like, I have to go outside. And they pull this out of his eye while he's just sitting there.

Oh, oh. I mean. So that was another thing is he's like, he didn't want to take any medication. You know, he just felt really bad. Wouldn't let me call anybody. So I spent two, I spent two nights.

two days in a hotel room in Hawaii crying. Really? While you slept and ran fever. It was, yes. And I didn't know what to do. And I couldn't go up by myself. Hang on, let's take another break. So the, but you also, that's the airport, you were going to rent a car.

That was before, or I don't know if he's already said, what happened with that? Well, he's 20. How do you remember? You remember more about my mind. I'm the bad with this story. Because that's what I do. People are thinking, oh, y'all discussed this earlier. I had no idea this is what we're going to talk about.

I'm a detail person. He has so much useless information. No, we couldn't. We were both too young. That's right. Neither one of you were 21. You were six days from me in 21. Can you not get married when you're 2018?

No, you can't rent a car. I was thinking, I didn't remember doing anything illegal. We didn't. We couldn't. Yes, it was a long, it was not what you would call it your dream. honeymoon. We get back literally six days, seven days later with the coins in my purse. We literally had coins in my purse that was left. So it took all the eight hundred. It was the honeymoon from hell. It was. It was no romantic, which I've already gone on record saying, you know, our first

night was more like a biological experiment because we were both virgins. Yeah. Well, man, this is part of We've talked quite a bit about this in the podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, because those were the earlier podcast. You've just tuned in late. Because I go out and I share with young people that God's way is the best way, and it's okay to wait until you get married. So I can't do that without sharing our experience.

Because then they all want to know, well, how was it the first night? But I've got to be honest. I'm like, well, it was more like in a biological experiment. We're looking around. I'm trying to figure out. I mean, let's really. can we just, we got it. You know, okay.

So what you say is, you know, we have three kids. We have four now. We figured it out. That's what Jason. So moving on to what's next on the agenda, Al. I'm pretty well just trying to survive this podcast. Oh, I hope the audience has found it as amusing as I am. So basically, we were, Jason and I were in preaching school together when y'all were dating.

that was the two years leading up to this. It was preaching school for you. It was a Bible study school for me. And I thought I will never be a preacher. It kept up my typing skills. That's right. And then I had to, Lisa wouldn't type for me because she's not, she doesn't like to type. Well, I typed, I typed a little bit.

Missy might have typed some years. I think I did, actually. But I think I skipped that class in school. Every time it came to typing, I think I skipped. But Missy was like, I don't know. How many words a minute did you do? It was off the chart. But I think it's because of my piano playing days or something.

So, yeah, it came easy. It came easy. And then Marianna Canales, remember I hired her to type some of us. She was a good type. So Jay's and I were in school together. The whole time y'all were dating. And so that was the year we graduated was when y'all got married. So you were fresh out of preaching school probably, and we were, they had already

hired us as interns. But that's the reason we didn't have any money is because we were interns for a church. I mean, that is as low as you go. We came from no money. Well, we didn't have any money anyway. That's why I was talking about your dad. He was like, I mean, what are your, I shared this earlier. He's like, what are your plans to make a living?

I was like, not much. Firewood, fishing, crawfishing. Some roofing. Which I can kind of understand the idea I was like, this doesn't look like it's going to go very far. Well, it reminds me of that whenever Phil said that on one of the Dynasty episodes, you And it's like, you can't live on love. You'll starve.

We were not even in thinking that. We figure it out along the way. And goodness, so many people do try to get everything in line and get their careers going and all of that. And then they, you know, get married. For us, it just, it worked out the other way. It was hard. It was not easy, especially that first year of marriage, you know. And, you know, we've talked about that in speeches and in both of our.

books, but that first year of marriage was not fun, but it was God ordained. And we cannot, we cannot say that there were some majorly awesome things that happened. It was just hard on our relationship. Yeah. And that's good, and that's good advice for folks listening, because we have a lot of young people that listen to our podcast, people that aren't married yet. And we get that question a lot. You know, how do I, and then we get also a lot of questions from people that are in their first four or five years of marriage, they're having their first children, and they're like, this is so hard. Well, but there was a spiritual side of that. I mean, in my mind, I was like, I'm going to trust God and I'm going to work hard. I just figured that recipe would work out. Yeah. But I mean, I genuinely

believe that. But I mean, it was a few times, you know, when I'm hitchhiking, you know, when we get one vehicle, it's like, well, it's just not going. You know, everybody's like, oh, stay away from hitchhiking. No, you need a ride. That beats walking. Maybe not these days. Well, when you're driving the hail damaged $1,500 trucks that are leaking all in the driveway, they have a tendency to maybe not work as consistently as what we're driving these days. Do you want to tell them about the time you were like trying to open the door?

And I was like, these doors don't open. I think that was in the dating process. Oh, that was a test. That was a test. I had to climb through the window. Duke's a hazard style. I just thought if she. It wasn't that sexy.

I was at a moment where I thought, if she doesn't go through the window, this relationship is over. How shallow can you be? Well, I just thought if you were too embarrassed because, you know, I didn't have a whole lot of things lined up. I thought I'm in a vehicle that neither door will open. So I thought that was a good test. But when you got in, I thought, okay. We're going along this schedule. You passed the first test.

I've been going on record. I believe this. The only thing we have in common is Jesus, and that's enough. Yes, that's very true. We don't have a whole lot in common. That's true. And Jason's defense, I will say, even though he talks a lot about a lot of things on the podcast, he talks very highly about you, Missy, on the podcast.

And we all do because we love our wives. Let's take another break. So what I want to talk about a little bit was those early years of ministry because we were all like we talked about before Jace was I mean he basically targeted everybody knew in high school you know to try to convert I mean that was his thing you know yeah in school and coming out of school he was in fact they didn't even really give Jace a title or a job as an intern he was just kind of like go win people which was you know that's I mean he's but most of the work happened from about dark to daylight. That's right. And that was what was hard on our marriage. Sure. That was really difficult.

And I want to talk about that because if you were, you and Lisa both, we were all doing it together, but at the same time, the style in which we did it was not always so easy on marriage. Well, in a synopsis, what happened was because Jace and you at the same time decided to go work as an intern at the church, I had to drop out of college and go to work because we'd just got married. So somebody had to make a little bit more money than I think you're making $800 a month. That's not a lot. Even 30 years ago. That wasn't a lot. And so I- We were raking it in. And we spent our wad in Hawaii, which was 800. That was our total complete financial net worth.

That was a month's wages. It is. We took all we had, 800 bucks and wasted it in Hawaii. I think Bill must have told the boys you got to marry a girl who's willing to work and support you because that's what I'm going to realize. That's what I realized. That's what I realized. I went to work. So I worked during the day. And then literally two weeks, two weeks after we got married, a week after we got back from our honeymoon, his best friend, and you may have told this, but his best friend from high school, one of the guys that he had said, this is the way I'm going, follow me if you want to live like this. otherwise we're not going to have a relationship for a while. Blake, he came and knocked on the apartment door.

It's like, I need to hear more about this. And it was almost what happened was, it's unbelievable if you weren't there around to see it. So you can attest to it. But from Blake to Rich to Jill, to there was, I can almost tell you exactly between up to about 10 people, the order in which it happened, them just coming and knocking on our door and saying, so-and-so just said, they learned something that changed their life. And I want to know what it is. And so because people worked, went to school during the day, it happened in our little apartment in the evenings. And then it would go on

through the night. I would have to go to bed, get up and go to work the next morning. And because Jay stayed up all night studying, he would be sleeping during the day. And so it just did. It just did, didn't work that first year. We were trying to get to know each other. We were trying to figure out our roles and then also lack of sleep and just not spending a lot of time together. However, hundreds of people came to the Lord out of our little apartment. And it was looking back, I think, did I remember that correctly? But it really was a phenomenon that God sent our way. again, wasn't the greatest thing for our marriage, but then maybe it was because we were really just studying with people

and talking about Jesus and God bless that. When you were being rooted in the idea of the fruit was being born out of your life, even though it was difficult to do, which we've been studying the book of Acts, and that's what I see in Acts. You know, every chapter is full of trouble. And yet people are coming to Christ through the process and even in the difficulties.

Well, it was interesting about sort of our partnership. And again, we didn't plan it this way. It's just that Jason and I, you know, went to school together and, you know, we both had a passion for people. And y'all did too. And we were kind of, Lisa and I were there, is sort of that we were four or five years older than y'all. So it was just old enough where then our role was more kind of discipleship, follow up. I mean, these same people you just mentioned lived with us during periods of time. We had Bible studies all the time going on.

And then we did all their wedding. I did all their weddings. Remember we had the Gospel 101 class out in the back screened-in area at our house? Right. Well, you were also my soundboard as well because I don't know if y'all remember. I was at your house multiple times crying about our relationship. Yep. Because a year or two in.

Oh, yeah. I don't think you knew that, Jason. I'm out. I'm so mad right now. I'm so mad at him. and I would go over and would just, you know, you're the older, older brother and sister. Five years older, that's a lot, you know. And by the way, we've done that with every sibling.

Yeah, I'm like, can you believe that he is doing this or that, you know. And these things you were getting mad about, it wasn't like I was, you know, going out there and getting drunk. Yeah, it's just relationship challenges. You were learning each other. Yes. You put it perfectly. You were trying to figure out your own rhythm as a couple. Yes.

And yet, you know, look, ministry is not easy either. I mean, you know, helping people all the time, very time consuming. Look, these people were coming out of bad. Some of them in bad situations. You're dragging them out of bars. I mean, we talked about them. Look, what we were doing, all of this was good. But I, at that stage of my life, was a little immature in thinking some of these people

that just would not get their life right, I just refused. I thought, you know what? If you don't want to go to heaven with us, I'm carrying you. Yeah, he did. I realized that was where I was making the mistake, which, look, my heart was right on it. But just I learned that just some people just don't want to go. And you're not going to make, I mean, when I'm sitting outside of a bar in the middle of the night thinking they said they weren't at this bar and here they come.

I've gone too far down the road. You had to learn. They come out. And I'm like, hey, what are we doing? Yeah. I thought we buried this guy. Yeah. So, I mean, that was part of the problem was it just, you were trying, all these people were young.

Well, we need a little more balance. And we've learned that through the years. And Lisa and I learned that the hard way too. Well, again, when you truly. 21, 20 and 19. Yeah, we're very young. And, Jason, in your defense, when you truly love somebody, these were your friends. Oh, they were my friends.

These were people you grew up with. You loved them. You didn't want to see them perish. So, I mean, I understand, you know, you wanting to be out there and catching them and bringing them back. Oh, yeah. We did some things. Missy was on a couple of reconnaissance missions.

I mean, it just. But I just remember my memories of that era, you know, because I tend to kind of look more of the highlights as you look back, is, you know, having House Church and that house on Swiss Street or in our house, that big house we rented. And, you know, just having some really, really good times. And so like just yesterday, I'm doing communion at WFR. And I look out there and I see Blake and Shannon, you know,

and that was the first wedding I ever did. And now they will have been married 30 years. I think this year or next year. And so I look back and I see that and it just gives me a good feeling to know that we walked alongside of us. Let's take one last break. So this last segment, see, this just went fast. I mean, you're so worried about it. We're already in the last segment of the podcast.

I'm looking at your body language. I mean, you're just like, it's just like all tense. Like a pillar of salt. I don't know this is what we were going to do. We're going down memory lane bringing up challenges. Playing the role of. Phil today on the podcast. We'll be Jace.

It sounds like something dad would say, all right, we're going to move on from memory lane and get to some. Mine reader. All right. Well, the last segment I want to talk about is Mia and Mia Moe because we've obviously talked a lot about her and a lot about the foundation and what you guys have done over the course of her life. unbelievably, she'll be 18 right on her next birthday.

Yes. I mean, that's kind of why we're here. today. Missy's, we're fixing to leave today. She has her,

I mean, they call it her last surgery and, you know, this, kids with her condition, cranio facial,

cleft, lip, and palate type things, you know, the world doesn't realize for the most part that it's an

uncorrectable situation. They just manage it as they grow because it doesn't grow correctly. So,

lot of people, you know, they think in our medical world, oh, you have a problem, you go fix it. But it doesn't really work like that. And one of the things I've said before that Missy enlightened me on is that she's never gone six weeks of her life without some kind of checkup seeing a doctor, which is amazing. Here she is almost 18 years. Every six weeks. Right. So this is like the last surgery because she's quit growing. So they, everything they've done, the 12 or 13 or 10. This is number 13. 13 surgeries and all the procedures.

They're basically doing everything again on one last sweep because she stopped growing. So that's kind of what this is about and why we're together. So with Mia's condition, all cleft means is that there's a hole. There's a gaping hole. So every cleft child is different because the way that that hole is formed is different. So with Mia, it was a bit more severe than most children. So many children are just born with just the cleft lip. Well, that is more just one or two surgeries, and you fix that up.

But the palate, because it's surrounded by bone and tissue and cartilage and so many things, it affects the nose where the nose doesn't have a shelf to rest on, all of these different factors. So as they grow, it all changes. and you got to keep up with it. Yeah, and her top jaw does not grow like her bottom jaw. So in this procedure, they're going to break both jaws, move the top one forward because it won't catch up with the bottom, and they're breaking the bottom, which is fine. They couldn't do that until she quit growing.

Well, they did it once already. They did it before because all these things that, and I didn't mean to interrupt you, but they're affecting her breathing, her eating. and her talking. Yeah. And especially even her talking, we've noticed here lately, because her bottom jaw is outrunning the top jaw.

But I'll let you finish your point. It's very, it's, it's, it's, there's just a huge difference. I mean, literally almost an inch difference. You know, like when the dentist says, you know, bite down, let's say your bite, hers is almost an inch completely different.

And so, um, in 2015, they did this surgery, but just did the top jaw to kind of move it forward. Right. And so I had to actually turn a little key and move.

it a few little, I wouldn't even say a centimeter, just tiny bits where those bone cells could catch up each day. We did that for three weeks. And to where we got the bite was. And that was hard, wasn't it? It was one of the most difficult things I've ever had to do it. I couldn't. I mean, Missy was painful for her. It's painful for her. And Mia has a really high tolerance for pain. So like, I have to really insist that she continued taking her pain medication until she leaves the hospital. I mean, once we get out of the hospital, I know her now because she's 17, we've been through it so many times. She's good with a couple Advil. And to most people, that's just like, what?

Her pain talent is really high. But, you know, and she's very determined. So when she knows when we have to do these things at home, she just gets in her position, she grabs her dog, she grabs her blanket, whatever it is. You know, Paula Godwin comes over and she would bring a snow cone to kind of dead in that area and make it as fun as possible. So there's different techniques that we've used, but this surgery is like that previous one. But now that she has stopped growing, which is a good thing in terms of the cleft world, because now once we do this is why they're saying this could possibly be the very last surgery. Once they get this done, if all goes well, her bite will be where it needs to be.

She'll be able to speak better. She'll be able to eat better. and it will change the whole entire lower half structure of her face, which is also going to bring an emotional factor to it. Because the doctor even said this last time, which he's never really given us any kind of counseling advice. You know, he's just the doctor. But he looked her in the eye.

We've had him since she was, goodness, three years old, same doctor. And he looked her in the eye and he said, this is going to change the way you look. And he said, it's going to affect girls. We've learned more than boys. So he said, you have to talk to your parents about this, the way you're feeling, the way what's going through your mind. Because he said, and mom, you have to listen. And if she gets quiet, if she disappears, this is completely more of an emotional as well as a physical challenge.

And so that's why with the Mia Mu Fund, at first, I'm very practical. You tell me a job. I'm going to get it done. I'll check it off my list. But then we realized, oh, there's a lot of emotional component. We need a support system. And you guys have walked with a lot of families through that. And by the way, it's miamoo.org, if anybody wants to go and contribute to that.

So I remember, I guess the last surgery that was sort of like this one was around 12 or 13 to my memory. But I remember that time she went just from this total change in the way she looked. I remember that first time. And she was whenever that was. And it was awful for us. Yeah, all of us. Because it felt like she just, you know, she's the girl that grew up looking a certain way and then all of a sudden she didn't.

And so I can only imagine how that affects her because it affected us. It's kind of funny because you think, oh, that's the goal. So you're going to look different. You're going, even with the very first surgery that she had at three months old where they closed that gaping hole in the lip, it's like, okay, that's the goal. We want to get that done. But then we fall in love with that face for three months. and then they go in and they change her.

And that was really hard. That was really hard for Jace too. All of us. He said it took us, I don't know, two hours to go down to the waiting room to even face all of you because we could not get ourselves together. And Jace kept saying, we screwed her up. We should have just left her alone. Bad call. Terrible.

It was just super emotional. We want to see the doctor now. He came out there. We're like, what do you do it? He said, what do you mean? She looks great. I was like, no. This was not what we signed up for.

So we were not given a lot of information before each and every one of those surgeries. So what we've tried to do is being in that perspective. We want to give other parents the tools, the resources, the information, and yes, the monetary help that they need in order to get through this. Well, I'll say you guys have been, and Mia too, have been great. about that being, and it really kind of wraps up our whole discussion today because we started talking about how your marriage and family were rooted in ministry. And here we are all these years later now, 25 plus years later, and you're still rooted in that same thing to trying to help people. And that's what Mia Moo does. Missy, show them your book. If you want to read more about the story and

kind of, because Missy chronicles it really well in the book. Yeah, there you go. Bless, Bless Best, which talks a lot about that. And this was Mia's idea. I mean, I want to give her a lot of credit she has handled this better than we have and this is probably i feel more inadequate because it's hard to raise kids already i mean i don't feel you know great about yeah i mean i've made mistakes you know i mean my son my oldest son you know bought this thing called bitcoin at two hundred dollars and i was like you took all your money and bought something that you can't eat a coin you can't dig up he's like yeah it's going to go big.

I was like, no. So anyway, they gets to $8,000. And I'm like, you sell that now. And I made him sell that. Which now would have been worth? Now it's 60,000. So I have to live with that every day, knowing that I'm an idiot. He's forgiven you.

That's one good thing. It's like the more it goes up, I'm more idiotic. You say it never goes away. Keep watching it. And then you got to carve out some special inheritance for a million. 200 bucks. But anyway, and I'm saying with Mia, it's, you know, it's tough to, because you know, you just feel inadequate.

I mean, how do I handle all this? I mean, she's having to go through all this. And it's just a tough situation. And so you have to rely on God's word and prayer. Yep. And that's a, and us staying together. That's a good cue, days, because I wanted to close the podcast day in prayer first for the surgery this week and for you guys.

And just the whole thing that this is hopefully going to be truly. Actually, we've brought her down here. She's hanging out with your mom, Ms. Kay, right now. But, you know, in James, where it talks about us to show your faith, anoint the sick to be anointed with oil and pray over them by the elders. That's right. So after this, we're going to get you and your dads and tell our elders of our church to come and pray over her before we head out.

Awesome. That's James 5, by the way. Check that out because that's a, that's, I mean, it says there's healing and power in that and faith, no doubt about it. So, well, obviously, we love you. we've been there every step of the way and we'll be there until, you know, until the Lord takes us home. So, and I don't know about the audience, but I've been thoroughly entertained today by this.

I'm glad you enjoyed it, Al. Watching Jay Squirm was just worth the whole thing. I'm not going to do this again. We're doing it again. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Well, there's a bunch of the stories we hadn't told. That's right. Well, let me have a prayer to close us.

Father, we love you. We're grateful for family and just, you know, being able to be together through the years and support each other. And, you know, it is tough. This life is tough. And I know there's a lot of listeners out there that are going through tough times, too. And I just pray for every one of them that you'll bless them with the sense of peace to know that they can find answers in you and in your word. And just, you know, to get through that season and to trust you while they're doing it.

I do pray, Father, for Mia. Just pray for this surgery. I pray it truly is the last one that this will be the thing that finalizes all the issues that she's dealt with her whole life. and done so admirably and with courage and just never seen more courageous anybody the way she's dealt with this. And so I pray a blessing on her. I pray you continue to grow her spiritually. And I pray, Father, that she continues, and Jason Missy as well,

continue to help people and families through these difficult deals with Clef Palet and the other issues that I have. We love you. We thank you for Jesus most of all in his name. Amen. Amen. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed Possible. help us out by rating us on iTunes and don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be

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