Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 25 | Jase Tells How to Have the Greatest Sex, Phil’s Football Legacy, and Al’s Airport Adventures

Episode Date: October 13, 2019

Jase explains why sex in marriage is the best sex, Phil looks back on his glory days at Louisiana Tech, and Al talks about his encounters at the airport.    See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Unachanged What about you? So I'm sitting in the Atlanta airport, which I do quite frequently, Atlanta, Dallas. I know where you're going with this.

So I'm sitting there and, you know, flight delayed, of course, you know. I think we've only had two out of the last 15 or 20 that everything works perfectly. If I look up and here I see, sigh first you know hard to miss it just it comes kind of rushing up because he he he would have probably y'all would have probably missed the flight i don't know if it had been on time but he oh yeah we're running through the airport so i see sigh at first wheezing you know with this co-pd wow oh boy who you know what's weird about size he does that you know when he

exerts energy right and he says it's the 30 years of smoking which you know he does his lung capacity, which he quit. He hasn't smoked a cigarette in how many years? I mean, you were instrumental in that. That's right. You know, they opened his heart up. Yeah, he had a heart attack while we were duck hunting. And he said, boys, I think I just had a heart attack.

When we all laughed because, you know, I thought he was kidding. And he was like, no, I really did. And so. Only a Robertson would laugh when someone says, I think I just had a heart. Well, you remember if it was like, do you want us to take you out? And he said, no, let's finish the hunt. then I'll go get it checked out. Like, so three hours later, I'd call up there to check on him.

Oh, no, they're doing open heart surgery on him immediately. I mean, he's like, boys, they busted my chest open. Hey. I was in there when the surgeon came in and told him, he said, Uncle Sai caught him Uncle Said, which I thought was funny. When he's fixing a cut on side, and he says, Uncle Saab, he said, I'm going to shoot straight with you. I'm fixing the cracky open.

We're going to get this thing fixed. He said, but if you keep smoking in about three or four years, we're going to be right, if you survive the next one, we're going to be right back here again. Yeah, so he quit. He quit. But then he kind of started smoking cigars up, and Dad finally just got on.

Hey, get off the smoke. And you know, he never smoked another one. He did. I remember he was in the duck blind. It was like a brother intervention. You know, he's like, Sa, we like you around here. Hey, you can't walk 10 yards without going, whoa. hey wow

you know last year he got so bad you know I had to carry him on my back to the to the ducco I remember I was like get on my back side you know which I was surprised I mean he weighs about 70 pounds you know oh he's skinny I told him I said we'll get you there the blind I said you know we had to tow you

we'll hire a couple of guys that I told you in here but you know we did a back when we were doing the honesty I told him I was like you gotta I know this is like this is a little crude I said, but if you ever could capture size when he goes, just when he goes to the bathroom and does number one,

I don't even want to talk about number two. I was like, it is a full play-by-play. Oh, boys. And I don't know who the boys are, but the boys are getting the play-by-play. Yeah. Because at Duckle-Bounder, look, you can hear through the walls

where the bathroom is right beside where we build the duck on. And every day, look, and it's literally once in a lot. hour because I'm like you think that heart thing was a problem you need to look into whatever it's causing this we got some plumbing issues he's running check out the old prostate and he goes in there but he's like whoa whoa and I'm like well I mean and he comes back and I was like sigh I have never heard anything like that I mean what did you eat last like he's like oh no that was just number

one well anyway so I don't know how we steer but next time size I'll have to see how he's doing But so I'm in the airport, at least in our first I see Sioux, then I look up and here comes Jace. And then right after that, it's Philip McMillen carrying a big bag of grub, you know. And they're all got their camoan. Of course, you know, it's just as soon as they show up, it turns. Did you realize we had matching outfits? Yeah, yeah. I did not, that was not playing.

I mean. I thought it was like mini me and. Oh, it was embarrassing. And so I was like, what are y'all doing here? So tell us about what you do. Look, so we go to Richmond, Virginia. this was a Duck Commander Yeti production.

They wanted us, I do one event for them because they've always, you know, sponsored me and been good to me. And then Duck Commander was like, hey, I mean,

how about a little something for the effort? So y'all go to Richmond, Virginia. There's a store there. I think it's named Green Top, which had a green top. And so me and I were just basically going to sit there

and do like a meet-and-grie. So we get there. There are thousands of people. I mean, we're driving through this sea of humanity. And I rolled down the winter, like, what are y'all doing? They're like, oh, we're in line to see y'all. I was like, are you nuts? Have you ever waited in line to see anybody?

No, I've said this many times. I mean, this is no. Which is humble. I mean, we're humble, but still. Yeah, I'm like, there's no, I'm waiting in line for Jesus. And that's about it. The list is short, you know. So I'm embarrassed that people.

that people do this but i bring that up just to say that the number one you know what the number one topic of conversation was this podcast and so it made me feel a lot better about doing this so there was a lot of people that had been inspired uh we had numerous people come up there in tears wanted us to pray with them which is what's so weird is we're at we're at a store it's not like we're at a church building you know and we're having all these people that some of them want to be baptized and you know I'm like look that's the way it ought to work jace yeah that's right i was like i'm kind of in a tight spot here as far as making that happen but you know i and y'all've heard me say this many times i'm like if you fall in love with jesus you'll you'll you'll figure it out you know

plus when you when you if you have the resurrection on straight and your faith is in it uh in the bible that's presented the resurrection as the centerpiece immortality You have that on straight. It's only then that you can maybe grin or smile when someone tells you, your brother has just had a heart attack. Your sister has just passed on to the other side. We're looking at it like we've been delivered from a fear of death because Jesus shared in our humanity.

And by his death, he destroyed him. O's the power of death. That is the devil who in hell captains. those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. If you don't fear death, because Jesus, he says, look, I am the way, I'm the truth, I'm the life, I am the resurrection. You look at it that way and you're like, life does not seem to, the bumps are not as severe as you go forward out.

By the way, the people you said you talked to in Virginia, there was a guy from Virginia. him. He and the girl he was dated, I gave him sound advice. How are you doing pretty good? You from Virginia, good to see you. He said, I've come all the way down there, Mr. Robson and to be baptized by you. And I said, hey, welcome. I said, is that your wife? And he said, we're dating right now. I said, don't get in our bridges anymore until you marry her. He said, we've already discussed that. He said, how did you know that? I said, I just put that in there. I just put that in there. so you can know you are to live a holy life in Christ Jesus. I said, look, marry her.

I said, marry her or get away from her. If you can't get away from her, just marry the woman and get after it. This is good sounding, but I tell people that, you know, I think. I said, you're fixing to say Jesus is Lord before I baptize you up there in that pool of water. I said, you need to remember it's repent and be baptized. I said, you know that's not right. He said, of course. I said, marry her.

I mean, you give people advice. I mean, ultimately, it's up to everyone individual to figure this out, you know, to get hooked on Jesus. And we all struggle. But one of the things I do in my speeches is I, you know, tell your advice you gave to me, you know, you went through all the sexually transmitted diseases and, you know, keep everything in your pocket until you get married, you know, you had all these slogans, you know. And I was like, don't be a moral, sexual immorality is used at the top of all the list.

of sins right out well then i make the point that you gave me that speech i was like eight years old so yeah i had no idea what you were talking about whatsoever i was trying to instill in you the dangers the dangers it worked it worked but now i mean look of all the things i've gotten wrong because we're all flawed you know the one thing i managed to do it was you know the first sex i had with a woman was my my wedding night yeah and But through that, I'm now going out there and look, it's our job. We're not the policemen of the world. We're, you know, God's grace, men and women.

We need God's grace. And we share Jesus. We stay out of the judges. You can't make them do anything. No, you stay out of the judging business. We're not policemen, you know, and I think a lot of religious groups get that wrong. But you also promote things that were God's idea that are awesome. So, I mean, you know, in my speeches, I'm saying, you know, let me tell you about the greatest sex in the world.

Well, look, every time I say that, everybody, I have everyone's full attention at that moment. I said, do you want to know how you can have the greatest sex on the planet? You can hear a pin drop. That captures people's attention. Then I go through the God sanction, disease free, comparison free, guilt free, shame free between a man and a woman who's known no other sex outside of this one night as a married couple. and even though it's not this romantic TV version of bliss, it's more like the biological experiment, there's something to be said about doing it God's way

that is awesome. I mean, there's no shame. Because I, Phil Robertson, did not do it God's way to begin with. I said, well, at least I can instill in my children, you boys. I said, I can still in these sons of mine the right way. Well, I think it gives young people motivation. I do it for the young people. It gives them motivation to wait because I'm like,

you want to have the greatest sex on the planet? Here's the plan. It is the only way of it. And they're like, oh, okay. Well, who don't want to be the greatest? Yeah. That's right. But it is when you look at all those factors.

Even people in the world will agree with that. If you had to, if you compared it, you know, to the sex you can have in that realm, that is pretty special. Well, kudos to Texas because I spoke out at a, a rodeo arena, you know, dirt out in the middle, and they rode bulls, had a bull riding deal. Then they took a tractor, pulled a stage, a trailer, up out on the dirt, and the people came out of the stands and came down roughly 5,000 or so. So they all, and I looked out at them, and I said, hmm, a lot of young people out here.

So I said, I just stood up at the mic, and I said, I want to know, raise your, your hand if you've never told a lie. For the ones of you who have never told a lie, raise your hand. And I looked out across the audience, 5,000 people, a lot of young people. And I looked from left to right. And no one raised their hand to say, I've never lied. I said, I only ask you that question, raise your hand if you've never lied to see if you would say, I've never lied, which means you just did, which would be a sin. I said, you Texans are pretty wise. So the bottom line is that's where I started, you know,

and I ended up with the good news of Jesus. Here's what God has done for you. I did note that there were a lot of young people in the audience out of the 5,000, way more younger people than older people, which I thought, this is a good thing here. and I did note that they paid careful attention to what I was saying. You know what I'm saying? In other words,

Yeah, well, it's the same effect. They paid careful attention. I thought, you know what, there's still hope for the United States of America. And that was in kudos to the Texans over in East Texas. Yeah, Tyler. For stealing something in their children. So I saw some of the videos,

the guy, Ben, who went with you, filmed some of it from behind you. So that whole middle section right in front of you, look like they're all like teenage girls teenage girls i mean there was a big throng mighty throng an old gray bit here i mean what that was like mc jagger that's what i was going to say the the event i mean i figured out you know a long time ago but it just reiterated it when i was in richmond with si it's not about us i mean these people are so starved in our world for you know god-based principles they get you're not seeing it they get nothing out of the school says

or Hollywood or it's so rare that somebody says you know even this podcast is named I'm unashamed yeah I'm not ashamed that I'm going to heaven and going to live forever and want people to go well wouldn't I talk about I'm talking about it I'm talking about it applause I got during the whole thing except right at the end of course they all you know they were already standing but but the biggest applause I got and I was surprised I said why don't we just try based on what I I'm seeing and you all are looking at via the internet and whatever other vile thing you're looking at. I said, why don't we just try loving God and loving each other?

What in the world could be wrong with that? Look, they roared. Young people in the state of Texas roared like, yeah, why don't we just try loving God and loving each other? I said, what's the downside to that? That was the biggest applause. I took that to heart thinking, you know, these young folks, here, they may get it.

Well, you know what I love about. I felt better having talked to them. About Texans is they love Texas. I mean, they love. Yeah, there's a pride there. There's a pride there. And so when I go to Texas, my opening line is always, I say, I hear that in Texas, you guys have in your state constitution that if you ever deem it necessary,

you can vote yourselves to become your own country, the country of Texas. Of course, when I say that, I just hit the nerve. You know, they're like, yeah, everybody cheers. I said, well, look, I got an idea because, you know, things are getting pretty bad. You know, the world's getting to be a scary place. We've got all kind of radicals running around. I said, if that day comes sooner rather than later, I'm speaking on behalf of the people of Louisiana, we want to come with you and we want to be Texiana.

We want to join forces. I said, we'll bring the food because, you know, and the music, because we got that. You guys got the Texas pride. And then everybody cheers you. And then at the end, my outline, as I say, and we're going to leave Oklahoma and Arkansas to fend for themselves. Because Texas people, you know, in Oklahoma, they got the right. So it's like, whatever I go there, that audience is mine.

Well, I'll tell you this. I moved Virginia way up in the batting order of states that I've enjoyed based on that. There was two things that I thought stood out to me on this trip. One of them's disturbing. But number one is the amount of African Americans that were in line. that because the guy who I was you know who put all this on together he's like this is so strange to me to see different races of people in this line and they're just as excited they're they ought to see us on Sunday morning they really love that well this conversation happened

because there was a guy in line who was a he worked for the airlines or whatever but he said where'd y'all eat last night when we went to this place called the iron horse which i'm giving them for free advertisement, but let me tell you something, it was awesome. It was it. It was good. Good food. I met everybody there and horse. What kind of food was it?

Oh, it was steaks and seafood, you know, but they had, they season their food, which is weird. You know, once you leave Louisiana, you just left the seasoning. But it was, it was fantastic. But this guy, he's like, man, he's like, well, you need to take you down to leaves, you know, as best fried chicken in the world, you know. And I was like, well, do they let, you know, white people in there? And he's like, no. And he didn't say it like it's a racial thing.

He's just like, you know, everybody there is, you know, African-American. I was like, well, what? He said, they're going to let me in there. You inside. And so the guy is listening to him by this. And I was like, well, why? Because they've seen the show. He said, oh, no, we know you love us.

And when he said that, you know, I didn't really think anything about it. But this guy sitting next to me. Oh, that impacted him, you know, and he was like, why did he say that? And I said, well, and I brought up the podcast, you know, I was like, you know, people that look at us in our world, they tend to stereotype everybody. They see somebody from the South who hunts and they think there's these racial, you know, undertones and all this. I said, but people that know us, they know, you know, we're like, I used it since we were at a sporting goods store. I said, we're like deer. I said, you know, the Lord has made us.

colorblind. I was like, I haven't noticed the amount of African Americans in line. You did. I didn't notice that. I was like, you know, we're at a place in Jesus where we're colorblind. I never knew it. And so that leads me to the second thing that was disturbing. The amount of women that were hitting on sigh was insane. That's scary. Look, they were, and African Americans, Caucasians, you know, Spanish, it didn't matter. They were in love with side. First, I thought they were kidding, and I thought, they're not kidding. Of course, I did the same thing every time.

Now, he flirted with him, he hugged them, you know, they were kissing on him. Come here, darling. Yeah. But he would then say, but hey, I'm already married. I'm married to a flaming redhead. And if you've ever been. Yeah, he said, if you've ever been around redhead, you know this, that if I go off with you, I'm going to feel the fury of that woman.

And so, hey, I appreciate it, but I'm taking. And then every time they would leave, he'd say, what can I say, boys? When you got it, you got it. So I'm speaking of Christine, because what happened is the people that watch the show, Christine was not on the show. I mean, she did a few more. By her choice. By her choice, right.

She didn't want to be a show. And so they thought Si was a, you know, a widower. Yeah. Well, they still do. I don't think they've figured. Yeah, they haven't figured to that. So I'm in Nashville. this week.

And when Sa was with you, so Christine calls me, his wife, and I answered the phone and she said, of course, you have to know her Aunt Christine. She's just like right into the thing. She said, do you know where my husband is? That looks at home.

Did you know he was in Virginia or me? No, I'm in Nashville. So I was like, no, Christine, I'm in Nashville. I said, how long has he been missing? You know, and she said, well I don't know I tried to call Jay I couldn't get him you know so sigh is like gone on a trip and Christine didn't know and she said well I just wanted to know I got out of the hospital I was like but he knew that because when I was with him he said yeah I was like well she's in the

hospital side you didn't have to go and he's like oh no she'll be all right you know you get our age you go in there you know so all right moving along from duck commander stories Ladies and gentlemen. Are you tired of talking about that? I like these blunt transitions. Yeah, me too. It's just so stupid. I wanted to bring that up because I just wanted to thank the crowd for, you know,

supporting this and, you know, what we do here. I definitely felt the outcry. Well, and anytime we get that opportunity, it's great. I appreciate Dad saying that as well. And the folks that come here, people come and just kind of turn themselves in. You had how many states represented last couple of? Well, eight states in the last week. I've baptized individual, California, Minnesota, Virginia, Arizona.

So yesterday was a wonderful thing. I mean, the most honest hearts you ever want to run across, and they made the great distance, New Mexico. That was during the week this week, a man and his wife. So I walked down on the river and baptized him in the river, went over the gospel with them, but they already had been listening to us, and they said, you know, we just said, let's just go over there. Yeah, so people reach out. We say, come to us on Sunday. We don't mind. I mean, you're speaking.

I'm preaching this Sunday. Yeah. And I preach yesterday. So if you don't want to make the journey. We got a guy Ian from down south in Covington. He came up a few weeks ago and got baptized. He's coming through this Sunday. He said he's been on fire, you know. Sure. For the record, it doesn't matter. He baptized you. I think First Corinthians one says something about that. We try to tell them, why don't you just get someone over there, wherever you are, a thousand miles away to baptize? It would be fine, you know, but they said, oh, we just want to meet up, Mr. Robin.

I said, hey, load up. Come on, let's go. It's fun. Look, you get hooked on Jesus. You work it out. And we always walk that fine line. It's like, so the Bible says give honor to those who do honor. I mean, so there is a biblical principle that it's okay to honor people,

but when it's you, it feels weird. So, so dad, speaking of that, so I'll transition for you, dad, before we get to this, to the text. Dad was recently, we were notified that he is going to be inducted into the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame. Really? Yeah. So I didn't know that. 61st induction.

Last year, old friend, the Mad Hatter, they inducted him into the Louisiana. And Sabin's in there. And he got so excited he moved to Kansas. That's right. But so it's a lot of, so I'm looking at it. Here's the thing they said. So I'm looking in this thing. It's mostly last year, Peyton Manning went in.

But look, so he goes, Archie is there, the thing and all this. It's a big deal. It's a great honor. And dad, you were one of only three people, even though you had a pretty good sports career, high school and college. Went to Louisiana. Right. Played football. Bradshaw, should back up.

So Bradshaw's in here, too, obviously. So the dad is one of only three that's really. more recognized when you think sports hall of fame for being a sportsman a hunter as much as being but you actually did both but you actually turn I mean you had a promising career and you actually could have pursued that but you'd rather you know it's like what you told me when I asked you when I was a kid I was oh why don't you keep playing football and you were like hey they play football during duck season that's like my heart my heart was just not in it right I mean I had the talent You had the ability.

The talent without the heart. Right. Well, you have to have both if you're going to pursue that. Plus, they weren't shaking tens and tens of millions of dollars to play in those days in the 60s. Right. They, you know, if you made 100 grand a year, you, you. Bradshaw was the number one draft pick in 71, I think. And his bonus for being the number one draft pick was 100 grand, what he told us that night.

Made it. Yeah. Paid out over 10. 10 years. As great as he was, you say the big bucks, what I'm trying to say is the lure of it, the big bucks, it was just play the game without the big bucks. But if somebody had come along and said probably, you know, if you do well here, you get a sign of order, whatever, you make 10, 15 million a year.

I mean, that's on the low end. I'm thinking, hmm, I probably would have tried it. Just for the money. But it's been that kind of money floating around. Like it is now. Yeah. By the way, y'all are my sons and I raised you, looking back, as far as my spiritual well-being, I made the right call.

Oh, no. No doubt about it. Because you may not have ever. I love football, but I mean, my heart is just not make a livelihood. I chose not to do that. So you played in an era in the late 60s. There was a little bit of TV, but not much. I mean, it was pre-TV era like it is now.

So we didn't. I never really knew. how good you were. I assumed because you were starting to have a Bradshaw, you were good. So during the show, the assistant athletic director at the University of Alabama, which is kind of funny, we're so big LSU fans, they were huge fans of the show.

And so he reached out to him. He said, hey, I got something I want to send you. I want you to show your dad. And I said, well, sure, what is it? And he said, it's a, it's the game film and they've colorized it. You know, Alabama, you know, made it big. And of him playing against Alabama. in 1966.

I watched it. I did too. Kenny the Snake Stabler was their quarterback. And they won a national championship. Barry Bryant, by the way. Right. So he sends me that. I bring it down here to you.

And you and I watched it together. And of course, it's really great because they colorized it. And, I mean, you get all these angles. But I was stunned at how good dad was. Like his release was amazing. But it was more, I mean, you're 6,

you're 6, 4, 230 and are athletic. When you think about today, athletes that's what you have to be you know we've met enough oh yeah uh professional yeah i mean you're just big big bone and if you're athletic and can move well you're you're you're you're you're gonna make it you know i mean you always talked about your arm but i was just looking at you thinking oh no i get it yeah if you're six four two 30 and can take off running without falling down every five steps you know and you have an arm oh no you're and that's a way it look that's what stood out to me you're a very athletic quarterback and a

day. And by the way, Dad passed for like 220 yards against Alabama who won a nice championship that year. And Bear Bryant even mentioned you the next day. Of course, he didn't, he didn't mention by name. He said number 10. He only called people by their number. But if you had to have had the zone read back then? Oh, my goodness. Oh, you would have just dominated. Right. Because I noticed you look like one of the more bigger because the linemen looked like they're 250. I mean, they weren't that much bigger than you. Someone, someone asked me one time, they said, when y'all played Alabama, what was that like? I said, well, when the ball was snapped, I said, it sounded like a clap of thunder.

When they hit your guy. When the ball hit my hands, it was like a clap of thunder. Man, mono we mono, man to man. It was loud. Well, trust me, I saw the film. Your men went backwards. There was a red. I've never seen, I felt sorry for you.

And I found myself running from my life as they were coming at me from every direction, screaming like wild crazy men. It came across in the film. You were literally just running for your life. You should have been there. It's like listening to thundering hooves of a bunch of cattle in there all after me. And boy, when they caught me, they told me, I threw some interceptions. Oz am I too.

Your receivers drop balls. Oh, hit them right in the hands. It was depressing. So here's what's interesting, Dad. So that's, and we're honored, obviously, by this. It's a great honor to, I mean, give honor to whom honor is doing. Hunting ducks, to put it bluntly, is a lot more fun. Yeah.

And a lot less dangerous. I'm sorry. I just would be on the bus going to a football game, and I would be looking out the window, and we would go through those big creek bottoms if we were driving from Louisiana over to Mississippi or whatever. The big, you know. Just your heart, wasn't it? And I just would look at those woods and I'm thinking, what in the world am I doing right along here? All right.

As a jock. So I got to tell the story, Dad. So about. If you don't finish this story, we're going to be done. Hurry up and we want him having the Bible verses today. We're good. We're good. We're good.

So about five years ago, this is all going to tie together. Five years ago, we get a call from Louisiana Tech. And you really haven't had much to do. You've been down here hunting, building a business, preaching to people. So we get a call. Never been back. Never been back.

So we get a call and they're like, look, Bradshaw's going to be here. We want to recognize you both. And you didn't want to do it. You were like, I said, well, you know, Bradshaw was asking. He wants to interview you for Fox Sports because they were televised in that game.

Joe Montana's son was playing for Tulane. That's who they were playing. So I taught you into going. You didn't want to go. Just full disclosure here. So we go. And I thought it was just going to be that. well, we're up in the coach's office, which is Lou Holtz's son is the coach there.

And so we're up in the office and Bradshaw and dad are signing stuff. And it was really great because the first time really you'd had contact with him in many, many years. And they're talking about it. Just two old country boys from Louisiana made it big, him and doing what he does. You doing what you do. And so they're telling stories. And so then the president of university comes in. Of course, all the president's men, you know, they come in, they got their suits on.

And so they tell, so they kind of got everybody's attention. I'd never carried on a conversation with the top dogs at the university prior to this point. So they come in to this office. It gets quiet and the president informs dad and us and Bratjaw that dad is being honored as the 2014 alumnus of the year. So which puts you in the Alumni Hall of Fame. so dad dad's standing there and you know the president's talking and everybody clapped you know and so everybody kind of looks to dad like to accept this honor well you got to give your speech right so dad who doesn't know about none of us did so dad looks over at me and jays you know dad would

have to know like he's he was addressing them but he was but he was looking done that his whole life so this he's looking at you talking to me but it's a confrontation yeah But he's looking away. So he looks at me, cigar store Indian face. I mean, and he says, Al,

you remember we used to fish the Washataw River? And they got like just instantly quiet. And I was, I knew. I was like, oh, crap, this is going to be bad.

So he said, we were getting 30 cents a pound for Buffalo. Do you remember that? Yeah, Dad, I remember that. 70 cents for catfish. Tubs of fish going up the hill,

going in to get the duck call business. and started. You remember that out? Now that's getting awkward. It's getting awkward. Everybody's like, where's he going with this? He says, nobody from Louisiana Tech University ever call me and talk to me about anything other than they thought I was some kind of idiot with two degrees.

So he's saying all this. So the look on their face is like they're shot, but they're like... They're thinking, whoever had the idea to honor this clowns. Somebody in the president's entourage was sweating because they were thinking, oh, no, this is abort. Abort. So then, so you said, here's what you said. I'll never forget this. You said, but now I'm on a hit television show and all of a sudden I went from an idiot to a genius in 40 years. What do you think about that, Al? He's doing the whole thing to me and I'm looking at him just like, how do we get out of this?

You know, we're trapped. So Bradshaw starts laughing, big, which allows. everybody to laugh so then they thought oh this is like a joke and bradshaw says phil they don't care about any of all that they just want a big fat check you got money now don't you know how this thing works well then they look mortified all their little guys were coming back to us that's not what this was about we we weren't trying to but kind of in a way it is it is it is they're like hey help us out here phil we want to we want you to become a booster the twist and turns of life so anyway Look. But it's a great universe.

It is. It is. Bradshaw is one of the best dudes you ever want to run across. But you brought up yesterday a key point. They honored the, on the Louisiana Hall of Fame or whatever that's called. But you brought that point up yesterday when you spoke in our church that, Phil,

you were the only one that, you know, they had their accomplishments or their description. It's a plaque. And they had, what was it out? Here's what it says, Dad. So there's,

it's hanging in the, in the Louisiana Tech Alumni Hall of Fame. So I made the wall. Oh, there's a wall. And look, the university goes about 1860, so there's a lot of people on the wall. I didn't know that. But get to what it says.

Every year, this is the key. I have no idea. Glad he's gone or? So look, I'm looking, I'm reading, man, business, sports, I mean, you got all these accolades. I look at yours, which no one looked like you. Everybody else was. Shocker.

Suit, nice. You know, their picture. I ain't Captain, obvious. You know, you had the bed back of the beer. I bet that worked on a weird. So here's what it said. It said, duck hunting icon, which if you're called the duck commander, that's a fair. Then it said television personality, which us faces, you wouldn't be on the wall.

You hadn't a deal. Iffy, but okay. And then it says, Servant of Christ. Servant of Christ. So you, Bill Rawerson, are the only alumnus in the Tech Alumni Hall of Fame that mentioned the name of Jesus Christ. I was shocked. It's because if they reel back some time

and saw the way I lived while I was at Louisiana Tech, the last thing they would have ever concluded he'll turn out to be a servant of Christ. They probably thought, you know, son of the devil himself. But the fact that they put that on there shows that they noticed. So I took that as a positive thing. And I helped, I helped him notice.

But, you know, what I'm saying is, here's my point. I tell the whole thing to say this. you, dad, you don't want to be honored. No. You don't, I mean, it's never been your thing. That's why you kind of tend to run away from stuff like that. But it's important.

That's the only time, by the way, I've ever been back to Louisiana Tech is what you're talking about. Exactly. But what's important is that everybody comes in there because people know who you are. Everybody goes to Louisiana Tech University. They say, Phil Rogers. Oh, yeah, Duttony. I mean, they immediately know who you are. But when they see that your honor in Christ, then it's worth it.

I mean, you know what I'm saying is even if you get honor, as long as you honor back to Christ, you know, that's what we're supposed to do. Well, that goes into the whole reason. I appreciate for them doing that. Yeah, me too. I mean, we're sitting here for that reason. That's right. It's more about what we discovered in here, which this book led to a person.

That's right. So last time we talked about faith and we talked about it, we talked a lot about Jan and sort of her role and influence and how that kind of plays this way out. When in our story where we kind of left off was the children of Israel, you know, they're out there. They were at the mountain. We talked about that before. Law, all these terrible things. But the thing I noticed about them that's really interesting, and the same thing it happens today, is how quickly they lost their faith. Yep. I mean, like, they would see amazing things. I mean, Moses is showing them some amazing things. God's doing things. He's sending food out of the sky. They

go out and pick up bread every day. I mean, you know, this is an amazing time to be alive and be a believer. And yet it seemed like you turn two pages in Exodus and then they're like, we want to go back. We're hungry. We're not eating the right stuff. We're grumbling and complaining. So the question I wanted to ask you all today is why is it that people have a lack of faith? And what do you see in that when you start to see a person waiver? What are some of the things you sort of see in their life?

I look at it like, I mean, because none of us want to lose our. you did say all these terrible things but it was I mean the law is good it was all intended everything that was intended through God I mean he was trying to set up this idea that he wanted to be with people and when you do that there are expectations but it always comes back to the same thing is this struggle versus this temporary happiness versus this long-term eternal unseen joy And life is tough. It's full of ups and downs.

I mean, you just think about how many times you've gone, you know, and had this spiritual high at a worship service or a camp experience or some kind of conference. And, boy, you're ready to set the world on fire. And then the next day, you have one of these days where literally nothing goes right. And you struggle. And the next thing, you know, you're griping and complaining. And you're having a knock down, drag out with your wife. and then your kid gets in trouble and you're just,

and all of a sudden, you know, you don't have any money and the bills are crazy. And you're just like, well, where's this God now? You know, and I just think that struggle is shown there, but it's no different than what we go through. And we're on the side of grace. We have no excuse. Three little texts.

One of them is when Jesus struck Saul of Tarsus down on the road of Damascus, He said, who are you? Paul, Saul at that time, who are you? He said, I'm Jesus whom you're persecuting. Get up and stand on your feet. Now listen to this. I've appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you've seen of me and what I will show you. Now, this is a personal confrontation between the Son of God and a Jewish guy.

I will rescue you from your own people, the Jews, and from the Gentiles. Now here's his marching orders. I am sending you to open their eyes, turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that here's the reward, they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me. He's talking to a king, Agrippa. And verse 19 says, this is Acts 2619,

first to those in Damascus, that's where he started, the road to Syria, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea and to the Gentile, everywhere I go, he said, I preached that here's the, when you say, how come the Israelites were so quick to turn away from God, start worshiping the golden calf and all and grumbling and complaining? The Apostle Paul said, I preached that. that they should repent, turn to God. And the third thing is, and here's where the Israelites was having some problems, and prove their repentance by their deeds. That's the tough part.

Well, you go from there to Romans chapter 2, verse 6. God will give to each person according to what he's done to those who by persistence in doing good you say, what did he encapsule the entire thing? When the Israelites, every time they went astray, you say, what was their problem? They just forgot to get up in the morning and do good. Because watch, those who buy persistence in doing good,

so it takes a change of mind, a heart, and you see so few in the Old Testament to come out of there who had this quality. for the ones who by persistence in doing good they seek while they're on the earth glory honor and immortality the reward he'll give eternal life just get up and do good persistently do good duh so watch but for those who are self-seeking it was the Israelites when the law was given these self-seekers fast forward all the way into modern day americans you say they just get tangled up and what they want they grumble and they complain and the food and this and you say they're just not content by just doing good and relying on God taking care of them they said no will so watch out of this ends for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil there will be wrath and anger there will be trouble this is worldwide ever since

God made the earth and put humans on it. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile, but glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile, for God does not show favoritism. Well, you just add those two texts together and you say, how hard can it be? but I've just noticed people we've converted by the droves. You say, what's the hardest thing for them to grasp?

Live a life of faith and prove your repentance and the confession you made, Jesus is Lord. Put that into practice. I wanted to bring up 2nd Corinthians 3 because that's what I based my, you know, what I said about the temporary versus eternal which Phil was like the selfish rather than unselfish.

Right. But 2 Corinthians 3, really 4, 5, and 6, you know, those chapters, because he compares the new covenant to the old covenant. You know, he starts talking about Moses in chapter 3, verse 7. He says if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, you know, like on the mountain that said it was such a glorious happening, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory fading through it.

Fading though it was, will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? And you know where he gets to. He gets to in the end of that chapter saying, whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away the Spirit. The Lord is the Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

And we who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord. glory are being transformed into his likeness with ever increasing glory, which comes from the Lord. I mean, here you have this relation from the old to the new, but the same thing was trying to be accomplished, which is a presence and a relationship with God, with people. And so then he gets to four, five, and six, and he basically talks about that struggle. what I mentioned when he said, outwardly we are wasting away,

yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day for our light momentary troubles are achieving for us in eternal glory. So we fix our eyes on not what is seen, but what is unseen. But he understood that's always going to be a struggle no matter which covenant you are in, this daily battle. And he gets to chapter 5. We're a new creation. Despite our flaws and despite this struggle,

we're representing him on earth. I mean, it's just incredible that he's acknowledging, look, I'm going to use you despite the flaws, embrace the struggle, even though it's real. This is what we're doing. So Paul had it best. You said, well, why didn't the Jewish people just do better under the law? They had the strict code.

What's this? This is Roman 7. The law is holy. So everyone needs to remember. there's nothing wrong with bow down to God and Him only. Oh, that's right. Not misusing his name. Just like you do with your kids.

Shield and obey your father and mother. Don't murder. Don't commit adultery. Don't lie, steal or covet. You say, well, that's a great code to live by. What's this? So then the law is holy and the commandment is holy. This is Roman 7, if you're keeping up here, about verse 12.

It's holy, righteous and good. All those commands, think about if everybody just live, just obeyed them. But even the concept of don't put your hand on a burning stove, you tell your kid, well, that's a rule. You know why? Because it's going to hurt you if you do.

Did that which is good then become death to me? By no means. But in order that sin might be recognized as sin. Why would God give them a strict code? He wanted them to realize, even if I write it down and you have it to fulfill, you still won't do it. Watch.

it produced death in me through what was good so that through the commandment all this code that Moses received on Mount Sin Sin might become utterly sinful. Here's the bottom line. We know that the law is spiritual. What a great code. And if the world kept it,

can you imagine what kind of world we would have? There would be no murders. There would be no adultery. There would be no stealing. You talk about a great place to live. There's just ten of them. You'd think, well, what in the world? Watch. The law is spiritual. Nothing wrong with the law. But I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin.

Aha. Here's the problem. It's not the law. It's not the code. We've met the enemy out, and it'd be us. That's right. And what religious people is, they elevate the code over people. So some people, that's why you get legalism. That's why you get people judging other people. But look, I'm going to be. You were a right. on target. It's got to be what's unseen. Because when Paul tells that, he's, he's talking about the glory of Moses. When Moses was having this interaction when he was getting the law, just being close to this proximity, how God was revealing himself to him, he came out glowing like a Christmas trip. Look, I'm going to make a weird analogy, but the reason these women are drawn to Sa, because there was an African-American woman, she's like, there's just something, because I was like, what is wrong with you?

You know, when he took a picture. Why is he's like, there's just something in him that, that is so appealing, you know, inside. And, you know,

it made me realize, well, you know what that is. Because Sa, as insane as he is, and as funny as he is, you know, all the antics,

we all know Sae better than the world. And look, deep down under all that is a really good heart. Oh, he's his spirit. He's a genuine, he's a,

genuine lover of God in his heart and so as anybody I've ever been around in my life. So that's the appeal is what's unseen as the Holy Spirit. What's the whole appeal with while we were in Virginia and while you're in Texas? Let me look at us. We've let ourselves go, you know, to a place that's scary. And you're like, well, what is the appeal? It's like I was trying to explain to that guy sitting next to him. He's like, why are you bringing people together?

I'm like, it's the unseen spirit. spirit of God. Yeah. Here's the greatest thing for a human being to grasp. Are y'all listening? You said, well, what could it be? The way this works is if you observe human beings, the ones who know they are forgiven of every mistake they've ever made, like in Colossians, they're because of Jesus' physical

body on a cross. They're without blemish. that they're holy, they're free from my cues. They are completely and utterly freed from Satan and sin and the guilt of it all. Al, it's that group right there.

They'll be quick to forgive others. All right. Once you know you've been forgiven, you will let people curse you. It doesn't bother you. You'll say, hey, just think about it. You won't get mad at them. You'll cut them some slack.

you'll be forgiving once you know you've been forgiven of all of your mistakes. Because once you struggle with it and the Jews, you got to remember how the law was just keep it or die. But there was nothing there to really change the heart. And now once the Spirit of God you're given when you put your faith in Jesus, you know, and you're baptized, you're like, well, you have the greatest love flowing through. I know we got to quit, but I'm on my, what I'm going to preach on this Sunday is a, you know, the DNA of God, which is, you know, light and life and love.

But that love, when you think about it, you know, wrath and mercy came later because before there were any people, that wasn't there. But there was one thing that was there, love. That's why in Ephesians where it said, in love, he predetermined, he predestined us. and that kind of unconditional love, you know, as a fabric of who God is. You know, he doesn't decide to love or he think about love. He just is love. It's been there all along.

Well, that's what's flowing through you is my point, the fruit of the spirit's love. Look, here's Jesus on a cross. He's been, he's at the point of death. They've murdered him. He's barely gasping for air. They've nailed him to a tree for crying out loud. throwing his head. For nothing.

For nothing. Never made a mistake. Final words, you are shocked to hear him say, what did he say? When he said, forgive them. They don't know what they're doing. Right. So that right there is the difference between law and grace. You say, in grace, you look at your sins.

You say, I wonder how many I've committed. When Jesus, they went. No, you made the, oh. No, you made the point. I think Al needs to lead an invitation song. Well, when Peter said, how many times, Lord, do we forgive him? And he went big. Seven?

Yeah. Jesus said, 70 times seven, count yours up and see how many it's been. Well, once you understand, you say, good night. I've seen hundreds of times. Yeah. His point was 70 times seven times seven trillion. So all of these hundreds of sins and then we're having trouble forgiving each other and we're grumbling against our brother after about the third mistake he makes.

You're like, come on. So it again proves the point of why would you study Jewish history? And the reason why is because the New Testament was written by a bunch of Jews and one Gentile. And it's about change lives, change behaviors, change everything. Because of the character of God. That's exactly right. So we studied it all the way through. That's what we're trying to do on the podcast.

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