Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 260 | Jase Teaches His Dog to Call Ducks, the Bacon Cartel, and Late-Night Baptism Stories

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

Phil and Jase have an update on the latest developments in the case of the Great Cheese Heist. Al is everyone's hookup for the best bacon around. Jase shares a video of how he trained the world's first duck-calling dog. A man lets Jase hunt treasure on his property because he remembers an act of kindness from Phil. The Supreme Court gets one right on religious freedom. And the guys talk about secondhand conversions, authentic worship, the jailer baptized by Paul the Apostle, and the joys and dangers of late-night baptisms. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So yesterday I was coming, driving back from my southern lair, which actually is the name of my house now. It started out as a joke for the pocket, but now Tony has paint me a sign, or at least a sign that says Southern lair, which is going to hang on my house down there, which is kind of funny. But I had to stop by on my way home at Billy's Bacon, who's my bill. is a guy from Yazoo City, Mississippi that makes some of the best smoked bacon in the world. So I had to stop by and buy my 10 pounds of bacon because I got all my people here, Chad, you know, our nurse practitioner or others who love the bacon. So I feel like I'm part of a bacon cartel now.

I paint people in bacon. For instance, if you're just going to have green beans out of the can, not even fresh ones, but if you get fresh ones, it's better. But you get them out of the can, green beans, take them, drain the water off of them. what you do is before you put the green beans in a skillet to warm them up, just take some of that bacon, three or four slices of that, break them, cut it in pieces about like that, put it over in there, stir it around a little bit, and about the time it's turning brown, put your beans in, your green beans,

and then turn your fire down low, put a lid on this little steam out a little bit with that bacon. It really helps green beans. Oh, it's amazing. You're right. Anything they go in, you know, it makes me. for you. I do that with everything. Well, I was just giving them, I was offering them a possibility

and let them branch on out from there. I'm going to give you, I need to give you a pound of this baking. Let me reveal. Dad's got something. From earlier episodes. A couple of slices. Let me reveal a conspiracy theory

from earlier episodes. We had the great cheese caper that you told us about and I found comp. The cheese heist. The cheese heist. Well, listen to this. I can't.

By the, by the, way, by the way, let me just say something about that. So we get over there, dad, after the podcast, we go to his house and he's saying the same thing to Dan and mom that he did on the podcast. And Dan said, oh, the cheese is up in the refrigerator. I've already brought it. This is weird. Yeah. What I'm fixed. The dad didn't know. I was just wondering, I saw a whole back car loaded with two big boxes of the cheese. They said this was a gift. There was cheese. There was cheese. I didn't know it. These people in Wisconsin, for you folks in Wisconsin with that cheese, you wouldn't have believed what happened.

It was like ravaging wood. They attacked that cheese. I got home, I said, where's the cheese? I have some further developments. So I come home yesterday. I opened my refrigerator and there's cheese everywhere. I think it had to be part of this stash. somebody brought me some cheese and I think it was your cheese

I've been looking for that somebody ever since the cheese arrived because it went everywhere but to me I'm thinking where's the cheese? It's in the country. They're in small blocks and each one of them like is Colby, age Colby. One of them said bacon and cheddar. Yep. Is this from your supply?

And one of them had onion, chives. Yes, yes. That's where it came from. Did you give me that cheese? Being a generous person, I am generous. I don't care what anybody said. It probably came from Anna. I thought, well, if it goes to all the family members, at least they'll enjoy it.

I think since it wound up in Anna's house, she's been doling it out to you and to Willing. But this is more cheese than I could eat in two years. Well, Dad said it was 100 pounds. Do you say 100 pounds of cheese? At least. So I just figured, I said, the one the people gave it to me, I said, well, maybe they thought, no, they gave it to we yeah yeah well it's made its way through the neighborhood but so i tried i made me some fresh egg you know it because i get we've got eggs everywhere now that they've gone completely

organic in quotation mark and so i got all these eggs so i put every kind of cheese that they brought me on a different sliver of egg and i tried them all i would say it was at least 20 Different types of cheese. But boy, when I saw that bacon, I thought, no, now this is an idea. Yeah, I've been seeing the bacon. Let's put the bacon in some cheddar. Oh, it was awesome. It was good, huh?

Yeah, had to cut them a smoky flavor. It was probably smoked cheddar. We had a big crawfish ball and the ones that were left that we didn't get to to eat. It was like a nice chest, three-quarters full of crawfish. Right out of the Chappalai Basin, which is where this river goes. We're a little bit longer in the season. So when did this happen? That was three, two or three days.

I never heard anything about it. Me either. So they had a big fast and a little, little crawfest. So we're eating them, but we had some left. Were they big ones? Oh. Yeah, big size. I mean, they were great.

But John got a, John, our nephew there. Oh, Gember. Well, next time. Got a great cook on them. And so we took the, what we had left, we peeled them, put them in a bowl, and we had our grattan with cheese, Crawfish tails with cheese and a white sauce

and we had the cheese in there with them in the sauce. But you talk about good. Yeah, I appreciate you, Sharon. Crawfish nestled down in that good cheese and Wisconsin. I mean, I would have got in on that. Wisconsinites, they're not the greatest duck collars in the world.

They're working on it. But as far as cheese making, whoever said, make sure you get them recipes before we go from Europe over there to the states to that wilderness. us can make sure you got them recipes that cheese. So wherever they ended up up in Wisconsin, somebody broke out that recipe and said,

okay, we brought the old ways to the new way. So I guess somebody's going to have to let us know from Wisconsin because I don't know if this new thing Jason was mentioning, because I've been noticing too, I've been buying cheese even at the store, about putting a lot of stuff in the cheese. Because in the old days,

you just had basically, you know, yellow cheese or white cheese. You didn't have any choice. I know. Now they've got all these things they're putting. putting in there with it. You're talking about a duck calling. Thank God for Wisconsin cheese is all I've got to say. I'm teaching.

You know, I have the two little dogs that you say aren't worth a whole lot. The little lap dogs, hazel and buddy. By the way, I eat cheese, I would say daily. So somebody said, well, I tell you what, you know, you eat too much cheese. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is going to happen. Look, 75 years old, no pain, no, no inflammation. Mason no nothing. You said, well, maybe we'll eat a little cheese every day.

I'm just saying. Well, at some point, you're going to have to balance with some brand. So I'm teaching my dog to blow a duck call or sound like a duck. Your dog? Yeah, this little dog. You know how we have our retrievers? Well, I have a dog that wants to participate in the calling. Because the first time I blew a duck call that this dog,

perked up, you know, the other one. So if I share, I film this, can we share this on the, can we share this for our podcast? So I'll let y'all watch it and then we'll play it as you're watching it. And so then y'all can, so let me turn it like this. I think you can see it there. Let me see if this works. Hey, all right, I'm teaching butters how to, blow a duck call.

Thought you'd get a kick out of it. You ready, buddy? I thought you ready? Did you notice the cadence of the bark? Yeah. I didn't really pick that up. I mean, he sits there. He lets me go.

He lets me do my thing. There's hope. That's sucker. And then he'll, right? He does a quack. And then he'll, Oh, right, right. I said that to my daughters and my wife.

Flows Night. It's the world's first duck-calling dog. What is that dog a Chihuahua? What is he? You know what? You got me. It's little. Yeah.

And that's the one that belonged. This is the one that belonged to Missy's grandmother who passed away, right? So you all inherited the dog. And as a, in jest, she left it to Missy, who doesn't do pets. When I was informed of that, I thought, But yes, that is funny. But she's, the dog was going to live in Austin. But the dog, Missy called me one night.

She's like, we're at, it's me or the dog. So next time you come, take that dog with you because I can't help. So me and the dog. Can you tell Jason, get rid of the dog or have a divorce? Yeah, can you tell Jason spent a lot of time alone now? at home this is a dog man this is what he's come up with to to amuse himself he's teaching his dog out of yeah i thought to my knowledge i don't know of another duck call emulating dog and it does he does the same thing every time he lets me get started he jumps up on the top side you know it's

the other dog hazel she's like no i'm too old and fat for that she'd have do anything she just sits. We had one done that. I just remember if we put the Arkansas highball on them, very high pitched and kept it long enough, we had one. We had one. He would howling. Because it was hitting his hearing level. He had howling at the moon. Well, these two dogs do that too. We'll go through the howl, but that's more. I have seen people that do a pretty good with their voice. One year, we were doing a Duck Commander Day. We used to do those at the church. It was always a big outreach day. Everybody'd wear camo. Everybody got exes. excited about it. And usually one of us or all of us would speak. And I remember one year we were doing

it. And I was, that's back when I was preaching regular. And somebody said, you know, there's a girl here that, I mean, she sounds just like a mall or duck with her mouth. And so I was a, huh? So I get up there. And I'm like, welcome everybody. I said, hey, somebody told me there's a girl here where she pops up. She's back in the back of the auditorium. I said, cut out. Let's hear what you got. And she's like, I mean, like with her mouth, she sounded like, she was really good. And I was like, man, you can do anything. I've seen several individuals, one from Florida, called me up one day and said, hey, hey, listen to this.

I don't need a duck call. I said, really? He said, yeah, I didn't sound like a duck with my voice. I said, crank down on it. So he did it over the phone and came to see me later on. And I said, man, you've got quite the skill set. He could sound just like one. And there are some individuals out there.

If everybody could do that, we'd have never had a business. You remember the guy who sounded perfectly like a duck with his mouth? Yeah. Remember the guy? Yeah. I mean, it was incredible. Yeah. He started off doing Donald Duck impersonation,

but it led to, he trained his voice. He doesn't need a duck because he's bad for business. Yeah, Raspi. He may get back in touch with us after this little episode, but I mean, he may. The bar could sound like a duck. So you remember who was a message during duck season? Yeah.

He somehow got my number, and he was like, you remember me? Of course. But he's like, I'm the guy who sounds like a guy who sounds like a. duck without a duck on. I was like, oh, I remember you. Was it, was it Johnny Wink that could do the goose? Yeah, he does the geese. And it's so funny because the way he does his mouth, his teeth, like, it's almost frightening to watch it.

Oh, no, it is frightening. I mean, he's, Phil characterized him the best I've ever heard as saying he's, he's a bit high, strong. I mean, that guy. Johnny Wink. A lot of us hunt and a lot of us enjoy it. We have passion, but he's insane. I mean, it's like I've gone with him a couple times.

But he's a true duck hunter. Oh, he is, hardcore. And goose. And can sound like a goose, but it's so funny. I just laugh at a time. Whatever you're gaining by his call, your buddies are laughing so hard because he just gets a craze looking in his eyes and it's so loud. He's into it.

And the way it does his mouth, it's just like, you don't think it's humanly possible for your jaw to get in that position. And yet he doesn't. Yeah. Let's take a break. And then I know Dad's got something for him. I got something for Jace. So we've heard him expound on this repeatedly. So I thought, I wonder if the scriptures have anything to say about guys who go around looking for treasure.

Oh, I like this. I've probably read most of these. My son, which you are, this is under the heading of the moral benefits of wisdom. Here's wisdom, Jays. My son, if you accept my words and store up my commands within you, turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding, and if you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure,

then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God. Look for the moral wisdom as if you were looking for buried treasure. So when Jay's does his treasure, looking for treasure, It's pretty good to make that next step forward and say, you know what? I wonder why he would say moral wisdom is, look, it's hard to find. It's what he's saying. So you need to put this in your heart. And we went, we talked.

The whole podcast. The whole podcast that like four minutes left, Phil said, I found it. Yeah. Well, you and I have been talking the whole time. Dad never said a word because he was trying to find that. I went this past weekend. and asked and no Phil you'll you're you're gonna love this story while you're looking

okay so the farmer who owns the land where we have our bed and breakfast and at Lottown you know and he said you can hunt anything I have and so I've looked at old maps you know and tried to find places well I went to his office other day I took him some slow jelly and he said well you know there used to be this big big cotton gin right across here.

And I was like, really? I was like, would you care if I hunt that? Because he had a picture of it. I said, that looks old. And he said, I don't care, but I don't own it. And so I was like, oh, well, who owned it? So he told me the guy who did. So I went and saw the guy and knocked on his door,

which is always awkward because a lot of people, they're not even familiar with metal detection or treasure hunting. And so I asked him, I can hunt. He said, you can hunt anywhere you want to. out here. And so I did. I actually found a silver dime. And when I found it, he was pulling back in his driveway. Well, here's the, here's the part that you'll like. So I go over there. I'm all excited. Of course, he's looking at me like, this is exciting. I was like, this was in your yard. It was like a 1945 silver dime. And he said, well, you know why I'm letting you hunt,

hunt here? And so I kind of like, pauls. I said, wow. He said, well, I was traveling on the river and he said my my gas detector uh what's the word of my gauge yeah my gas gauge gas detector we had some of a metal detector i've never heard that one well i couldn't think he said it was broken and he said i ran out of gas and he said i paddled i went to the bank looked like a house up there he said i walked up there you know dogs were barking knocked on the door he said and it was dad. So that's where you run out of gas. I was like, oh, I hope this has a happy ending. I hope this has a happy ending. Because everything's riding on whatever happens next, right? And he said, come on in. And he said, you know, he started talking about Jesus and various things. And he said,

you know, I kept thinking, I just need some gas. I ran out. He said, so he took me outside. And he said, it was funny. He would walk to a different can and pick it up. up and he's like nope he picked it no nope he said so finally he got one he said yep he said so and he gave me the gas and he said well you know I'll pay for you he's like no no I'm not he said you take he said your dad said I may be up your way you know one one time and need some he said I just never forgot that and he said then here you here you come he's like I knew you were his son. Small world.

To your point, Dad, that's a, that's an act of kindness to someone. And then years later, he has the opportunity to pay it forward to your son just by happenstance. I mean, that's, you talk about moral wisdom. Yeah, I mean, we're talking 30 years. Isn't that something? I mean, I just thought now he's up the river. Yeah.

I would say not very far from you. And I asked him. But a long way when you're paddling. Trust me, if you had said. No, because I know we didn't have any money back then. Guess what? When I knocked on that door, he'd like, no, I'm out of gas. Oh, I was going to get some gas in his rig.

Yeah. But that's good job, Phil. That's one of many, many, many, many that have, for whatever reason, broke down, toe up, got lost, sunk a boat. But it goes on. But here, the Lord is exalted. Where's it at? Isaiah 33. He was only all two chapters.

The Lord is exalted, for he dwells on high. He will fill Zion with justice and righteousness. He will be the sure foundation for your times, a rich store of salvation and wisdom and knowledge. I like it. The fear of the Lord is the key to this treasure. That's pretty cool. It's like treasure when you find out about how to operate when you're under distress and help.

And it comes your way. Blessings come your way. You say because of the fear of the Lord, he said it's treasure. So what made you look for these treasure verses? I heard you expounded on hunting for treasure. He just wanted it as biblical. I thought everyone wanted what the Bible says about that. It says a lot about it.

What it says is, which by the way. Keep looking. Keep looking for the treasure. It's there. You just brought an interesting point, which really makes your point, is that people always say, well, I don't really know how to study the Bible, but you just heard that's a good practical way. I mean, you hear something.

That's the way. I wonder what the Bible says about this. That's right. I mean, that's a great way to approach it and then get into a study. I mean, that's what we. The reason I got into it, I did it for the first couple times. then I did what you did. I went through the verses and I thought,

man, there is a lot of spiritual application, which way greater than us finding buried history. That's right. But where the treasure part came up, but you know, back when silver was being minted into coins, it wasn't,

nobody knew that it was going, the value was going to keep going up, I mean, now like that silver dime I found, it's worth a hundred times, what it was worth, which is not much, but still it's way more valuable. If you look for it as for silver, he's talking about moral benefits of wising up while you're on the earth. He said, there's treasure right there in front of you, but you've got to look for it

to find it. You're not going to be walk along one day, you know, doing your own thing and forget God and everything about him. He said, you look and you search, you'll find it. It's like finding That's why in the new I would just give you a couple of texts in the Old Testament. But that's like two of many. Yeah, we've talked about a lot of them. Jesus himself said, you know, it was like treasure buried in a field

when the guy I finally found it. He sold everything he had. He said, boy, I'd have run up on something here. So essentially, I don't know we were going to be talking about this, but so this past weekend, we were down the southern layer. John and Paula Godwin came down, spent the weekend with us.

It was their anniversary. So we went over to eat with our friend, Jason, our mutual friend, Chris. Yeah, I'm hunting with him. Chris and Jenny Cheryl. When did we convert them to? That's been alone. Been a pretty good while. Oh, John and Paula?

Yeah. Oh, that's like 25 years ago. Yeah. That's way back. So anyway, we're over there eating dinner where they're showing John and Paula all their stashes, you know, because they're big time hunters too. And they found some really cool stuff. He had just found a buckle that went on a union sash.

He sent me a picture of it. Yeah, it was really cool. So anyway, so we're looking at all their stuff. And so at the end of them kind of showing John and Paula, because Lisa and I've had a lot of meals, Chris is a shell, and a lot of good meals at his house. But at the end, his wife, Jenny, last year, they had some struggles in their marriage.

And Lisa and I kind of worked him through the process. And out of that struggle, Jenny started treasure hunting with Chris, something they could do together. Good clean fun. Yeah, and she's really good at it. So they gave Lisa, she gave Lisa a cross. And in the cross, she had glued in all these porcelain pieces, some of them, 150, 200 years old, because they said you find a lot of broken pieces of pottery.

All the time. And so they had these just jars full up. But she took some of the most colorful ones, and she put it on a cross. Of course, everybody was in tears because she gave it to Lisa. And she said, you know, when we were a broken mess, you and I were willing to help us. And we just want this as a thank you for how good our life is now. because they had found this common cause. That's good.

So it was really, so it's hanging in our house now, which is really, I mean, it was just. Which kind of proves the scripture's point. Exactly. That's how you find it.

What God is telling us. I've always been a big fan. Hang on, let's take a break. I've always been a big fan of good, clean fun. I mean, when I was in high school

and I wasn't going to the party scene, I mean, I was all in for Jesus. You know, the problem is you, you've got to find something to do. So, I mean, I would go to sports and hunting. But even, I think, is when you get older, finding things that are good and fun.

Of course, there are some people in the world, they don't like people. They just want to leave everything buried because they're like, somehow another, if you dig this up, you're bringing up the past. I'm like, it's a something, it's a material that means nothing compared to Jesus is nothing. And it's good, clean, fun. You're cleaning up the, you know, the metal in the dirt. Think about it, Jace. Once you run up on, I had no idea. But at about 28, that's getting on toward 30.

I'm like, I find this treasure of the gospel. And the Apostle Paul alluded to what Isaiah said in the Proverbs. He's saying, we've got this treasure in jars of clay. That's right. our bodies and you're like, we came from the dust, but you find this treasure and you carry that around with you. Boy, what a find.

And every jar of clay is flawed. You know, it's not perfect. Well, it's just to show that the power comes from him and not us, which is what, if you think about it, God is the ultimate detector because he finds us. We're the treasure, yeah, he views us as treasure, which is an awesome thought. But I do like the idea of searching,

because, Dad, you mentioned at 28, you're now about to be 70. 75, I'll be 75 this month. This month. And you've never stopped searching. No. You still search. Still search.

I mean, you know, which is awesome. You know what's amazing? What I didn't know at 28 that the treasure was even there, once I found it, you say, so fast forward about 50 years later, you say, oh, I've found treasure after tree, more and more treasure as I go on. It just keeps coming. I just keep. But it comes from the word.

It comes from the word. All scripture is God breathe. It's useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, training. You take these scriptures and you say, you'd be amazed what they'll do if you just obey them. It's amazing. Oh, I had an interesting conversation. Peace of mind will come your way. By constant use, you train yourself.

So this guy was saying, he said, you know, I read the book of the book. John since you recommended that. And, you know, that was really good. He said, my goal was to read it three times in a year. And I said, I read it every week. And he said, well, how long have you been doing that? I said, about 30 years. I said, so think bigger.

I mean, I hated to tear down the playoffs, but I was thinking, three times in a year, you're going to need to get into. up more than that. It takes 15 minutes to read it as maybe 20. But I thought it was comical. I was thinking, that's great, but the bar is way too low. But you've come up on a serious point because you read through the book of acts.

What was the message? What were they told to do because of the message if they believed it? Over and over. And why be so redundant over and over and over? So you couldn't miss it. Right. If you're looking. Yeah.

And you find new stuff, but you find new, because it's a person, it's like, I mean, I've been married to my wife 30 years, but I'll stumble up on something I didn't know very often. I mean, it's just you get to know somebody and things change, but when it's done, when God is revealing himself in a person, just the little things in his attitude and the way he handled different situations, there's just always something new that comes out of. And I like the idea of the unexpected. In Acts 16, which is where we are, Paul winds up in Philippi, which is interesting because when you read the book of Philippians, which is only four chapters long, it's one of the best little books in the Bible to me. It's full of joy.

And you can tell when you read Philippians, Paul had a real close affinity with the church there. And what was interesting about it was if you get over to verse 12 in Acts 16. They traveled to Philippi, Roman colony, in the leading city in the district of Macedonia. And earlier he had had a vision to go to Macedonia. He wasn't going to go there, but Holy Spirit prompted him to go there. And it said they stayed there several days. And in verse 13, it says on the Sabbath, we went outside the city gate to the river where we expected to find a place of prayer.

So I thought it was interesting. He had gone to the Sabbath first. It doesn't say it, but it kind of sounds like they kind of struck out. So now they're just going to go down by the river, basically to have some. them a long time and pray. But they run up on this woman there. One of those listening, it says we sat down and began to speak. She wasn't with them.

She would just listen that we call it secondhand conversion, converting. Probably down there doing the wash. Who knows? But we sat down and began to speak to the women who had gathered there. So they were probably gathered to wash clothes as well I figure. One of those listening was a woman named Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth from the city. So she's a businesswoman who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to respond to.

Paul's message. When she and the members of her household were baptized, she invited us to her home. If you consider me a believer in the Lord, she said, come and stay at my house, and they persuaded us. So I thought it was interesting because it's a great little picture of what you described at about treasure. I think, you know, Paul was set out kind of with a mindset. He goes to the Sabbath like he normally does. You never know who's listening. You don't know. And that's why, and she becomes the bedrock of this church that starts in the city that later on, listen to the way he starts the book of Philippians. He says, I thank my God. chapter one, verse three.

Every time I remember you, this is to the church there years later. And all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now. So, I mean, he had an affinity, but it all started on the riverbank with some women gathered up. And I don't think that, that wasn't a plan. No. But Paul seized the opportunity of the moment, you know, and it's like this small world.

Jay's told that story about trying to convert about three or four, five. of his old buddies, you know. Oh, yeah, and one of them listened for about 30 seconds and left the premises. But he's back in his back room, look, and he's got his head against the door. That's old Macapagetka. And so Jay's just talking to this one group. None of them said, I'm ready. I don't know about this right here.

Then a voice crying out of a wheel and they said, I am. And Jace looks around there. Well, the guy who left the premises had the door cracked back. He's listening. What was that old guy's name? McIntosh. McIntosh. He listens to the podcast.

I talk to him all the time. Yeah, Kevin, I know you appreciate us telling your story. Good listening there, McIntosh. The voice. Yeah, which then they wind up in prison. What always stands out to me in this is that the last thing you would think they'd be doing at midnight in verse 25 would be praying and singing hymns to God and the other prisoners were listening to them. So, which, by the way, let's take another break. So they started out, this riot breaks out.

But what happens before they go. Another example that the Apostle Paul, God through the Apostle Paul, want you to understand, there's always somebody else listening that you don't realize that listening. Right. You know? They're walking along and this woman is screeching to the top of her lungs. She's possessed.

But these people are making money off of her. And so Paul turns around just because he's sick of listening to her is what it sounds like to me. Think about this out. You and Jace are my sons. Y'all, there was an era in there when y'all were younger books, young boys, and you would walk in the morning, and there'd be two or three people sleeping at the house, scattered around and on the couches and all that, y'all would look. Plus, how many times did y'all sit there and you were hearing me talk to them about Jesus?

And it was being ingrained in you, but I wasn't thinking about y'all. You know, you're my own boys. I didn't know where y'all were back in the back room. But I noticed y'all clear it out when the, when the, when the, when the, when the, when the, when the, when the, when the, when the Bible study started, you all moved away. But y'all heard that your entire life. Right. Well, say what you will, Al, fast forward 50 years. Well, there you all sit.

Yeah. Still doing the same thing. Yeah, it was a good example. It was. No doubt. And so, so, so anyway, this woman is screeching. And so Paul says in the name of Jesus and he cast the demon. and I'd ever. Well, the problem was the people there in this city in Philippa, they're making money

off of whatever she was doing. Yeah. And so it turned everything into an uproar, but I want to mention this just before we got to the prison. They flogged Paul and Silas, which, you know, we think about a beaten, but in these days, when the Romans put a flogging on you. Well, and they stripped, it says the 22, they stripped, I mean, which is, one, humiliating, two, I had enough belt weapons in my life, hint, hint. I mean, at least I had, I was trying to get on as many clothes as possible. Put in some padding. Just prior to that, they shut down the fortune teller.

You know, finally, the Apostle Paul turned around there. But he got sick of listening. He was saying, she was saying things. I thought. She was saying, this is a man of God. So the demon in her was right. Paul got sick of listen to her. But here's why I want to make the point, because it's going to frame the rest of the book of

Acts, is that Paul is a Roman citizen. They don't know that. Well, the Romans had a lot of similar rules Americans had. There are certain things you can't do to violate the Roman citizens' rights. And one of them is to beat him without a trial. Well, they didn't know. They just thought that. By the way, we still teach Roman law.

That's right. A lot of it came from the Roman law. It's very similar to our founders. Well, they're not beating. You can't do that. Right. Well, you couldn't. You tell me about it.

But you reckon that's happening. We're not supposed to be able to do it. No. But so, but he was supposed to. So the rest of the book of Acts, especially in the later part when he's heading to Rome, is all about this instance where he was illegally beaten as a Roman citizen. So I just thought it was interesting that that's what starts now this emotion going forward. You know, was that story.

But his response is incredible. And it makes you realize, you know, there's another thing that come up in the next chapter in chapter 18. And they're charging him once again. But the claim I thought was interesting in 1813, it says, this man they charged is persuading the people to worship God in ways contrary to the law. And even when you read that about Lydia said she was a worshiper of God, you know, worship is a constant theme in the book of Acts. And we talk about the gospel. even in Acts 17, a chapter that we all know like the back of our hand, that whole sermon started when he said,

I noticed, I was looking at your objects of worship. You're very religious. He's like, and what you worship is something unknown, I'm going to explain to you. Make it now. And I just think it's interesting than as much problems to be petty, I have to do this. But as many disagreements as we have as a religion about how,

how we worship and with using, you know, what manner and style. And some people don't like this and I don't like that. And a lot of people, they will go to a church building based on how they're worshiping, whether they use instruments or where they're conservative or whether. And you're looking, what you find here has nothing to do with that. The man just got wronged, beaten, stripped. and they're praying and singing in the prison. I'm like, it's not nowhere near.

Is this some kind of corporate worship? It's not 9 o'clock in the morning and we're all, I mean, this is so far away from anything happening in a church setting. That is correct. What do we have going on? True worship, authentic worship, which I am a big proponent of. I just thank you worship. Even when you're in jail.

You worship. Every day it's not how it's who. And they're locked down in the center of this, whatever the structure was like, because they got them double locked in the middle. And they're singing. And you think about all the other people around them. There were other criminals in there. By the way.

People that deserve to be there. Yeah, the prisoners were listening and the guards. Right. Yeah. By the way. Really. Really, really. How much has changed?

as far as the message goes and the persecution, how much has really changed from that culture to this one? Right. What about it? I'll do. Are most people taking this? Oh, those are the greatest guys around. They're down there hauling about Jesus.

How many of them say, I'll tell you what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They ought to. But I like the idea that you know they were impacting people around them. Jason reminds me of that, remember in the movie, Shawshank, Redemption, when they, Andy gets, he locks himself in the warden's office and he starts playing a record with an Italian opera singer.

And so they're beating on the door and they're like, we're going to beat you. And he's looking at him and he just keeps playing the thing and he pipes that out to the whole prison. And all these old hardened criminals are all standing there looking up at these speakers hearing these Italian opera scenes. And then Morgan Freeman is doing the voiceover. And he says, we don't know what they were saying, but that day we soared. you know, because it was the idea of that. When I see that scene, I think about this scene and them singing in that.

I thought the exact same thing. Because when you look at things from a spiritual perspective, that's what you do. And that's what worship is. I mean, the first time I walked into the church where we meet at now, because we came from a church of 25 people. And look, we worship and sang because we believe in Jesus, but it sounded terrible. I mean, number one, it was all wha, wah, and the songs were hundreds of years old.

And when I walked in there, I thought, oh, I didn't know what they were saying, but I felt the same way. I thought, I know who they're singing to, and I am fixed to get some chill bumps at this place. Let's take one last break. So with the coronavirus that came through, would you say that there's been undue restrictions placed on the people of God across the country? I think it was attempted. You know, we just, and the Christians just won a big Supreme Court decision because they tried to say no small groups because they already shut down the places of worship, quote unquote. And so people were meeting in their homes. The leadership out there tried to shut that down with the Supreme Court said, no, you cannot do that.

You can't tell people they can't gather in their home and worship God, which, thank goodness for the Supreme Court, you know, but it just shows you what we've been up against, which, you know, and they still won't let them sing or chant. or whatever, you know, that's still on the book? That's why I'm saying it hasn't gone anywhere. No. You're right. You're right. The big picture. I mean, I think it's a small thing.

They know people are going to do it. I mean, but it's a small way for them to protest faith. I would say it's bigger than small. I mean, trust me, I'm not asking permission to go meet with people and worship God. Right. I'm just not going to do it. So what happens in our story is that they're singing. People are listening.

The guards list. Everybody's tuned in. And all of a sudden, the Almighty just sends a little, makes an earthquake happen. And so this is an odd earthquake because all it did was open everything up, you know, where they could come out. So the jailer, back in these days, if you were in charge of a jail and there was a big escape, they killed you. And all the guards. I mean, you know, you're talking about having your life on the line for your job? It's kind of a godfather.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, the Romans didn't really let people. So this Philippian jailer, you know, he's like, oh, he's getting ready to kill himself because he's like, it's over. He looks and sees the jail. It wasn't his fault, but it was an earthquake. And then Paul's, oh, whoa, whoa, we're all still here. Don't harm yourself. Don't harm yourself.

We're good. Nobody's left anywhere, which is amazing because all the chains had fallen off. The doors are all open, but nobody makes a move. and then because that guy is so impressed with this this guy, this prisoner who apparently, you know, is not, it's not trying to escape. Yeah, what about me? That's right. What I need to do to be saved. Then he says, I want what you have.

Yep. And so I find it interesting that first it says they, where is it? They washed them up and then they were all baptized. Yeah, it says they tended to their wounds. Right. Yeah. Can you imagine if the. authorities had walked in and there somebody has the jailer the apostle paul has the jailer by the neck

and he's baptizing him what would he say what what are you doing how is this even possible you're the jailer and they've got you and they're pushing you under some water what are you doing yeah they would have had no idea what he was doing that's exactly right but you know i think it's that classic case of sometimes people in settings like that can really find something of god And I spoke for a jailer event out in Utah last year. And I toured their jail. You know, this is where the main guy is. And there's a lot of guards there.

But we heard the testimony of a couple of young women. Both of them had been involved. They didn't kill a person, but they were involved in a murder. They were gang, gang members. And so they were around late 20s. And this had happened when they were like 17 or 18 years old. So they'd been prison over a dozen years. And they sort of gave us their testimony.

And one of them was the first time she had ever done it. So she was real emotional. But it was really interesting to them talking about how that they grew up in prison. I mean, they came in as teenagers. They were blocked off from the life they lived, which was good. But at the same time, they didn't know what to do, how to act. You were talking about just on the last podcast. And their lives had changed.

But they kept crediting the guards about giving them discipline. And at first they said, we fought these people the whole way. We were the worst inmates. And the guards are kind of nodding like, They were pretty bad. She said, and then one of them said, the one day I realized that, you know what, we're all in here together. They're in here just like we are. Yeah.

And she said, and I quit fighting them after that. Well, then she wound up coming to faith. And she talked about that. And so they were both really nervous because they were both about to be released within a year, you know, from their, they had long sentences, but because they've, you know, done well. So they were super nervous about going back into that old lifestyle. But it just struck me that we were in this locked up in this facility. and I thought, man, these people have to live together in this setting. But because of Christ, lies are changed.

My line is you folks out here, you can be under lock and key like you are, but you can still be free. That's right. Yeah. Which is true. Well, what I was going to say is, and we've known people who've been in prisons, and most of them, the ones that come to Jesus when they get out, they're glad they were in prison so they could find Jesus. I mean, it's all about attitude. But what, you know, I'm picking on religious people today,

because number one, they were having worship at midnight in jail. But then, you know, after the earthquake happens, they washed their wounds, and it says at that hour of the night in 33. It was late. It was late. We're talking two or three in the morning. Late. At that hour of the night, they washed their wounds,

and then immediately he and all his family, were baptized. I do not like this, I do not approve of this, this idea of let's wait a month for, and have a baptism service. I'm like, where did, where did, where did, who came up with that? Right. I mean, the people here. Well, they didn't come up from it with, with the, through the book of acts. That's for sure. No, I, you know, even, uh, Lydia in the previous story, the same, you get the feel, we just get this church building mentality. where it's like everything happens in an organized way. Around a two hour.

And you read, around a two hours from now we'll baptize y'all. You're like three months. I'm ready. I mean, look, we know Jesus saves and, you know, you have an opportunity to reenact Jesus. But I'm like, short of washing the wound, the blood pouring out of the body,

there was no delay. Let me stop this. We don't want you to bleed to death. And then we're taking you down there. And it's, but, you know, I like the fact that. And this was a dangerous thing for this jailer to do. Well, absolutely. To turn himself over to the Apostle Paul and be, and confess Jesus as Lord.

Who was the prison? At 3 o'clock in the morning after they had a big earthquake and all the prisoners. But you know what I think people miss, Phil, is how much joy and how fired up have you been in having a middle of the night or early morning? And I mean one to two. three in the morning, baptism. Yeah, that is. It's exciting.

And look, to be down here at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning after all night's study and then baptized people and then somebody leads a song, I mean, you don't care what time it is. And the text says, and the whole family after they were baptized were filled with joy because they had come to believe in God. Well, that says it all right there. And you're going to wait three months before the real joy is there. you're like, do it now. Don't, don't mess with that.

I mean, to me, look, if you went back to Acts T and they're like, what do we do? You know, and he's like, repent and be baptized, everyone of you. You know, no, we'll baptize you a month from now. What? We're glad you made the decision. No, it says those who heard the message responded. They didn't say, that is the dumbest tradition that somebody came up with. We're laughing about it, but I just have reel back at my mind discussing this, Jays, you brought it up.

But I've just reel back on how many late hours, or call it early hours after 12 o'clock, in the middle of the night. Put it that way. I've walked down there from my house going toward the river. I've walked out in severe thunderstorms, lightning, I mean, backwater in the yard. I mean, looking at cotton miles on the way down there. And they said, well, yeah, what kind of snake is that? I said, step around over this way. Don't get that.

And look, I've just cleared out and brush out in the water. Oh, Phil, look. I spoke one time. I think it was in Tallulah. It was a small little church. One of the guys that met at our church asked, he was the preacher there. And he asked me if I would, like, fill in. I was like, I don't mind.

So I'll go over there. Well, there was a guy who was. responded at the invitations. There wasn't 25, 30 people. And one of them responded, I could tell everybody was looking around like, oh, what do we do? There hadn't been a response there in years. He like, they're like, I think he's coming. So he said, you know, I was, I hadn't been to church in 15 years and had been in trouble with the law. It's weird how this story came up. He said, you know, I heard you, I heard what you shared about Jesus. And I was wondering if you had baptized me.

I said, yeah. I said, but I tell you this, I doubt there's any water in the baptistry here. I look back, they don't have a Baptist tree. He said, well, good, because I want to go to the Mississippi River. And I, because we wasn't far, you know. And he said, because I, trust me, he said, when I'm baptized, we need to get what I've done way away. He said, let's go with the biggest river we got, which I thought it was funny. We need strong current taking all that's the end of the goal.

So we drive to the levee, Mississippi River, and the water was way up. And then I felt like we may die here because it was just the current was roaring. And I thought, you know what, we've gone this fall. That's right. And so we walked down and about that time, you know, baptized me would come up when a truck pulled up. And it was just happenstance or a God orchestrated meeting. His buddies, the guys he knew were from that area. And they saw, they were like, what are y'all doing?

And he's like, well, I'm glad you asked. And I just launched it from there. I was like, yep, we just buried this old man because of what Jesus has done for this man. Well, then they just took off. But I felt some persecution. Rapid rate of speed. Maybe they came around later. But he looked at me and he said, we drew the line in the sand.

I was baptizing a girl down there in the river at night, and some fishermen were out there, and they pull up there. You know, what in the hell going on? They hollered cursing. You know what? I said, we're baptizing this girl. Y'all won't in on some of this action? And, Lord, boom, woo. I mean, they gunned that thing.

It said, couldn't I get out of here. Some crazy cult. True story. So anyway, they go to Lydia's house after they leave, and I think we'll leave with this, that the foundation of the Philippian Church was a woman they met by the river and a guy in his family that were jailers. So that's pretty cool. Pretty cool story.

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