Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 265 | Why Phil Believes in Demons, What Bodybuilders Get Wrong & Where You Go When You Die

Episode Date: April 25, 2021

Phil sends a scuba diver to retrieve something he lost 10 years earlier. Jase wonders if some of his metal-detecting finds are criminal evidence. Phil explains what happens to the soul and spirit when you die and shares his favorite verses in the Bible. Al struggles with impatience, but he's learned to deal with it thanks to Lisa's "leaving problem." Al and Jase debate how to pronounce Aquila. Phil says there's one way bodybuilders might be on the wrong track. Al points to the only miracle in the Bible performed out of frustration. And the guys discuss man-made gods of yesterday and today. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So now people are calling you for a... Well, my wife called me. And she was like, look. So you're now like a speed dial person for finding stuff. I mean, that's where this is going now. Well, Missed Carson.

Jefferson, treasure hunter. She's like, one of my friends' mom lost her wedding ring. And so I told her that, you know, you could probably find that. I said, babe, you needed to temper expectations. I mean, did you lose it in a field or something? Well, you know, here's what. Because I'm thinking that they cut. Is this like in the house or are you now a metal detective people's houses even?

There's what's crazy is she lost it within the last two weeks and she doesn't remember. Oh, boy. But when I met her. It sounds like me and my cell phone. lovely woman. I mean, just loves the Lord and just a busy bee and she got rose bushes

everywhere in her own garden and she has a kayak. They have a little break behind their house. Beautiful. Catches fish and she's like, I kayak. I was like, well, if you lost it in that break, that ring

is gone. Oh, yeah. So I, you know, I gave it a world. I mean, I put over four hours. Did you find anything else of interest? Oh, yeah, I found. Car keys, uh, leftover change. This is, this story doesn't have a happy ending.

I, uh, I found enough clad coins for probably a cheeseburger. And so you get paid now. I found some copper pipe and some brass paraphernalia. You know, they were looking like, where's the ring? It was like, it just didn't happen. It's hard to find gold. I lost, speaking of finders, keepers, losers, weepers, I lost what we call a drag. A guy sent it to me from Texas.

And the drag is what you pull ropes up on the bottom of the river. You have a rope tied to this drag and you have a hook net down there with a rope going out in front of it. and with a float on it. Sometime in float, boat would hit them or whatever, and the rope would go down on the bottom of the river. So you're sitting there, you've got a big weight holding the net, and then a rope going to the float. Well, the float disappeared, whatever,

so you go out there and you try to find them with that drag. The drags have three claws coming off of it, which it's like this, about this long, about an inch and a half around. That's about a foot long. solid coal roll steel and they had to be built just right well I was

trying to get a net off the bottom I got a hold of the rope and I'd gunned in the motor trying to pull a hook net loose the net was hung on the bottom of the river 20 feet of water current so I broke my rope when I was trying to get that other rope

it was hooked to the drive picked up the rope and I broke my rope the rope gone. So now the drag is down. So I look down, I look down

20 feet of water, my drags on the bottom of the river, hooked on to another net. And I said, sometime you just got to kiss them goodbye. So I said,

forget that. I had somebody to bill me another one. It was not as up to snuff as this one was, but it would do. A decade goes by.

Ten years later. I thought there's like this week This is going back a decade I'm going back a decade So I lose my drag The drag is gone Ten years goes by I thought this was wild jesus doing his thing

I had a Bible study with the dude He's sitting there And I ask him what he did For a living you know What you do when you He said I'm a scuba diver I said you're what

He said a scuba diver I said I said what you got to do The next two or three days he said well you know i said get that scuba diving equipment i have something i want you to pick up off the bottom of the river i said the currents down the river's pool stays so it's pretty not swift i said i lost a drag i told him about what i did i lost it 10 years ago i said but it's still that i said and you're the only man that can get it i said you never forgot a

You said you let it go, but you never really let it go. And he said, do you remember where it is? I said, I remember where it is. Exactly. And he said, so you know that river so well. You know where that drag is. I said, I can put you right on top of it. You'll be 20 feet above it on the water.

So we go out there, and they took a couple of days. He comes. He's got his equipment. We pull up there. I'm easing up the river. I'm looking on the bank over there. I'm looking to ease it along on the bank. and I said right and I said right here I stopped I said right there I threw me a weight out to hold the boat

and I said go down right there you'll find a rope and when you find the rope just start down that rope at some point you're going to run upon that drag I'm talking about told him what it looked like had one in the boat kind of like it I said we won't take you five minutes he said which means an hour yeah he said because we grew up with five minutes said you know it's there I said, it's there. So look, he jumps out of the boat like they do, you know, fall backwards out of the boat. I see bubbles, and he's gone. So I'm sitting there.

I would say five minutes. All quiet. Five minutes. I'm just sitting there. I'm seeing them bubbles roll up from down there somewhere. About five minutes goes by. I saw a hand coming up. He had a drag in his hand.

So he came up for the dramatic hand up first. It was a drag in his hand. And the rope had about six foot of rope on it where my rope had broken 10 years earlier. Success. He said, man, you got a good memory. He said, that's exactly what happened. I went down, found a rope, went down the rope, and you said it'd be there. It was there.

I wonder how he could see down there. Yeah, it's murky. Oh, it's murky. Couldn't see. He just strictly feel. But I put him right on tight. He said, it was exactly right underneath this boat. He said, how did you remember that that long?

I'm just glad he lived. Can you imagine? Look, if something happens, he gets tangled up, and it's like I gave my life for a drag for nets. That was 10 years ago. Yeah, I told him to be careful. I said, there's a big tree top down in there somewhere. I said because, you know, that thing was hung on that tree top.

What about one of them 175-pound alligator gar? That might have been one of them down there, too. You also told me to be careful a few times in my life. when I was a kid and I realized that meant your life. I hope it works out. It's in danger and this is really not worth it. You know that when he was describing that though, you know, my mind took me back to the scene in Jaws,

the original Jaws when they were getting ready to send Hooper down into, you know, try to see if he could kill that shark. That's that, you would you describe as a river version of that where you're just sending the man out. The story I just told you. You hope he comes back, you know. The story I just told you, that was 30 years ago. That's how long it's, man. You say, is your drag still in your boat?

I had drag still in that boat. Yesterday we used it. I got it. And I said, Dan, what's he is? I said, I'm going to throw this drag out. I'm going to hook a rope out there. And he said, what? I'm going to hook a rope.

I want you to back out in the river. And I'm going to drag his weight out further out in the river. I said, I'm too close to the bank. That's reading this net ain't catching. So I threw my drag out and I started coming up with it and I got the rope and the weight. And when he bagged out in the river and I dropped that old big weight, that's holding the net on the back end of it, you know. So I told Dan that story, you know, he said, you got to be kidding. I said, no.

I said, this old drag was gone for a decade. I said, I rounded it back up, scuba diver. The story of the drag. I don't know what I. So that sounds a lot better with my story. I was going to tell I lost my cell phone for like an hour. but it's just really not that interesting because we found it on find a phone and I don't know I've never found a person that didn't lose his cell phone on a regular basis oh it was well Phil that's because you

always have to start the retracing your steps while I went here did I lay it down there but the kids all start looking for it with the find a phone and they're like it's here we always find them get somebody to call yeah or we go in another room like somebody makes a phone call to that number you know, and you're looking around. One we found in the refrigerator. I said, Ms. Kay, how could your cell phone end up in the ice box? It's what we call them old school icebox. I remember icebox, yeah.

And she said, well, I'm evidently out this winter. She said it was in between the cabbage and some soft drinks in the refrigerator. She had walked in there and get something, set her phone down. She got her head of lettuce and came out of there, but the left of the left. the phone, you know, we're trying to track it, but you're not thinking the refrigerator. The ringer is ringing inside the refrigerator. I said, y'all, y'all, she said, I don't know what happened? I left here yesterday.

That's one of hundreds of times they've been lost. My last words yesterday when I left here, I was like, well, if I don't find my key, I'll be back because I look everywhere in here. I walk to my truck and I'm looking, I look down. It's in my hand. And so it begins. A whole search. I've hunted to my sunglasses for an hour and then finally figured out there on the head.

I said, oh, my goodness. It's pretty embarrassed. You know, I found probably half a dozen cell phones metal detecting that had been smashed. Is that right? Oh, really? Yeah. And I thought, should I report this? I mean, you know whatever happened.

Yeah. Because they were, now I guess theoretically, they could have been, they, you know, something happened and they were, but they looked like someone smashed them and threw it out. So somebody's trying to get rid of some evidence. That's the fun part about finding something, Jay says, I'll bet you to get this all the time is then you get to make up your own story. I was up in Arkansas one time and I was in one of these beautiful lookout points. It's up in the mountains, really pretty. And I look down on the ground in this, I'm just, you know, we're just observing. the beauty. And I see glass and colored sand. And me being a guy who's done a lot of weddings,

I realized what it was. It was somebody did a sand ceremony there, you know, and either dropped it because they pour the two sands in a bottle and it's kind of like symbolizing your life together, whatever. Or which, and this is a story I went to in my mind, somebody split up or whatever and they went back to the spot where it all happened and just smashed that thing, right? there on the spot of you know this lookout point so it was either it was either something that was an accident or it was something that was a something bad went down you was ridding yourself of the last vestiges that's what i imagine i imagine so you would have some woman that just got scorned and said i'm going to go back and smash it into a and it was just glass and sand it all over the place

so trying to wipe the slate clean that's right making up the story hard to run from your past so yesterday Jayce, I made an observation when I was leaving out and then it happened again coming down here. So we're, mom and dad, the last 15 miles to get out here is the middle of nowhere. I mean, you've got a few places, two people dotted it around, but it's mostly just woods that are used for, you know, pulp wood and all that. So we grew up, Jason, I grew up, we learned how to drive on all these roads out here. So, you know, I'm at the back of my hand. You're talking about the river. But I made an observation because I, when I'm driving to town,

or coming out here, I would rather get behind a young redneck than an old redneck because a young redneck runs wide open. Now, they'll tear some stuff up and all that, but they're getting where they got to go. But the old rednecks, which I guess,

Dad, you're in this company now. They just drive as slow as they want. They don't care who's behind you. They don't care how long it takes. They're just going to putter because both got the guy, I got behind yesterday, and another guy this morning going about 30 on these roads out of it,

which is, you know, near the speed lane. 35 is. Right. So you drive it, does you? When you drive in, you're just right there humming along? Some deputy pulled me over and said, Mr. Phil, this thing is 35 mile miles. I said, Chase would bring me.

Phil, you were going way too much. We were late to the airport. But I think you've told this story a few times. And the guy, you know, he just didn't want to be that guy. Right. But I'm saying, well, I point is, Jay's. So I'm 56 years old. I'm not old enough yet because I'm.

I'm still going as fast as I can to get out here and to get back to time. I'm not. Yeah. So you've already crossed over too. Really? I mean, I just enjoy it. I just enjoy it. Oh, yeah.

So you're the, so I don't know what happened to me. I'm driving about 35, 35. Yeah, I can't do it. It drives me crazy. Now, in the old days, I would pass these guys, but now I don't do that because that's stupid. It's just how you get killed out here. So I won't pass them, but I'm just like, oh, man, this guy, you know.

Well, there's. There's different fruit to the spirit. So patience may be yours. I am an impatient man. I'm so bad about it. I've run up on a lot of vehicles through the years from here to town in the ditch. Yeah. In the ditch.

Yeah, that's young redneck. Or against, you know, ram pine trees. Yeah, that's young redneck. Yeah. I'm somewhere in between. Junk again. Most of the time, yeah. Or that.

Well, most time, it's early in the morning. And you're seeing the results of last night's. Something the night before. activities. We come down there meet up and during duck season, probably five in the morning. That's a couple hours before daylight. Yeah. Well, you would think there wouldn't be any traffic two hours before daylight.

I've seen the most disturbing images in my life between three and five coming to duck on. That's right. Sometimes it's naked people running down the road. We've got a meth. You wonder, what are they doing running and what are they doing naked? I mean, but the old days it was just drinking. Now it's meth. just, uh, it's terrible. Let's take a break. But you know, Jay, you know what the Almighty did to teach me

about patience because I'm an impatient. I always have been fighted. He, he gave me a woman that I love dearly, but she can't leave. She's got a leaving problem. She can't leave the house. She can't leave the church. She can't leave whatever people would go eat. She can't leave. Like, it's time to go. You know, you, you know, it's time to go. Let's go. And she can't leave. And so I had to just wait on her. You know, in the old days, I'd just bow up and leave her or whatever. Then it'd be a whole fight ensues. I don't do that anymore.

I made sure early with your mother. Well, I guess I did. When it's time to go, when I get up and she's like, we're going, we're leaving. I didn't leave it. The train's leaving the station. The way mom has solved y'all's issue with that is that she always lines up her own ride. She's dependent on you. That's where you got different options.

I mean, you'd like to carpool, especially when you're my. married. But I just thought it's not worth it. So I very seldom do I ride anywhere with anybody, you know, my wife, including. Now, I don't either, but with Lisa, I mean, we go to the, we do an event. She can't leave. Like, we get down to the last volunteers. And I try to stay till the last one, get a picture with that bike, because these people worked hard to put it on. But then once that happens, I'm ready to go. Like, just standing around, chit-chat and Al's ready to go back to the hotel. Let's get out of here.

She can't leave. She'd be standing in a circle of people. The last ones will be about six or eight of them to put the ven on. I'm long gone by that time. Well, right. And so I'm just like, what am I? But it's taught me patience because I'm not going to be ugly to her. But if it still bothers you, maybe it's not.

Well, it bothers me, but I deal with it. I'm just saying I think it's a long list. I've noticed from all of our families. There's a long list of what, you call them get-together's parties there's something going on all the time you're right almost every other day well we had sigh this last week and then i mean i've seen more celebrations in the last i have one missy's got a birthday but you're invited let me tell you hundreds of celebrations the one thing because by the time this airs i think it'll be after yeah it's a birthday so i'm good sharing that

i mean it's a semi-surprise or whatever but uh the one thing you get at my party which i'm 100% producing. It's just scary. I can't believe Missy allowed you to do it. She doesn't know enough of. I've got enough of the finest meats that I could assemble. I picked them up yesterday.

So one thing, because I figured, look, if you have good food, you've built a foundation for success. It helps ease of fame. Forget what, if you go somewhere and it's crappy food. Well, by the way, if you're going to Willis the night before,

I picked up two whole tenderloins yesterday at Sam's that Stone is cooking for that event. So the one good thing about all these celebrates is that. That's today. That's Wednesday. Wednesday. So what are they celebrating? So what are they celebrating? Willie's 49th birthday.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You get a family as large as ours and you're celebrating every birthday that comes along. I mean, I'm just saying it's a little much. Well, most people in the world celebrate the birthdays. every year, but you just don't even acknowledge yours, so that's the difference. I just don't see. When's the last time you had a party? Jumping up and down and a lot of fun off of you being one year older than you were,

especially when you get to be about 75. Well, that point. But you were the same at 55. I'll tell you what, if you come to Mrs. birthday party, which could be yours as well since the day after or whatever. That's the only one who doesn't have a party player. We want, look, if you want to come, eat you a steak, We won't tell you happy birthday.

We'll just act like it's not. He just take and leave. So one of the things we didn't highlight when we talked about this at the very first of the chapter in Acts 18, but I wanted to mention it and get y'all's take on it. So he was, Paul was drawn to Priscilla and Akila originally. I think it's a quilla.

You say Akila? Yeah, back then they didn't pronounce the use like they do. But whatever. You say, I was curious. You say Aquila, I said, Kela. So they were tent makers, and so was Paul. So what drew them together initially, I mean, they may already be members of the church. I don't know, you know, it doesn't tell us, but it says they were making tents together.

And so I thought that was interesting that Paul, for himself, decided in his ministry that he didn't want to be supported by the brothers. but he says several times in his letters that support people who work for the church. He didn't have a problem with. In fact, he said, some of you serve as an elder and you're serving the church, you get double honor. You should be paid double. So he didn't have a problem with it, but it was always interesting he didn't want to do it himself. And so I thought about that for myself because I spent most of my life been supported by the brothers, you know, and the sisters. And I appreciate everything they did for my family because I was able to work and make a living while I worked for the church.

but now I'm in a position this season of my life where I don't have to be paid. And so I still do a lot of what I did before. But I just, you know, it's just my donation of time and effort. But I like it better. And so I sort of now for the first time in my life I get the idea, I think, of why Paul decided he wouldn't do it. There's just there's something that sort of ties you in in a way that's different if you sort of have the, I don't know, the freedom to not have to be paid. Well, by the time you get to Acts 18, what struck me is, as you cover the various things that came up during their travels, they said to establish the kingdom of God, beginning in Jerusalem, Jude, Jude, Jude, Samaria, the end of the earth.

If this is a bunch of lies thrown together, because it's either true or false, these events. it would be amazing. You would have to have the greatest troop of writers and producers to come up with this many lives and this many things, events that's happening. And some of them are kind of funny and some of them are very serious. And some of them are like outlandish. Some of them are with high spiritual overtones like you wouldn't believe.

like some guy falls out of a window. Yeah, that's coming up. And he's dead. And here's a fallible human being, the Apostle Paul, that raises him from the dead, gives him his life back. But he himself ends up by being beheaded. And you're just looking at all that. You say, you know, if you were going to make this stuff up,

you would have to have an imagination like no one ever. I mean, just think of the events they were writing about, and they're just writing them down like, yeah, and here's what happening. They're not adding anything. They're just going through, and you say, how in the world could they have dreamed all this up? And you go back over into the Gospels, and Jesus just showing up and how he got here and what he had to say,

and you get into put it all together, you say, these people are not lying about this. It's too many stories about the same. thing and it's amazing actually to read it. What do you all think about that? I agree. I mean, how could you have dreamed this step up? I've always thought one of the greatest things that helps prove what these things are true,

like you said, is the flawed nature of the quote unquote heroes of your stories. Yeah. I mean, these are very flawed people and recognize that on a regular basis, you know, in terms of each other. They're having a little mischief going together with them and getting along and, you know, well I'm not going to anymore with y'all if that's the way you're going to do it I mean they're fighting yeah I mean this family against that people to look and think that these people ever thought themselves as on their based on their own works yeah is that they were it a little bit better than anybody else the opposite is is shown here I mean they they they were you talking about servants

well I think it's crazy they had all the Old Testament scriptures and they believe the prophecies that the Messiah is coming Yeah. And so their whole life was a very religious, very family-oriented culture where we're waiting for the son of God, which to me, to believe that, I would have had way more trouble believing that than after he came. Just because I'm, you know, how many prophecies or predictions? Just as a human being, I'm just, I would have trouble believing that somebody knew what was going to happen.

Because it wasn't available, I don't think, all this information that you read about, that the prophets had this and that, I mean, there was not a lot of people that had access or even could read. And especially depending on what language they spoke, I mean, I'm like you, Jace. I mean, boy, you'd have had to really pull a lot of things together to say, yeah, there's the one right there. That's right. When a carpenter walks back, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so let's take another break. Well, that's why his first followers, they were like, where are you from?

Well, he said, Nazareth. You do a little history on Nazareth. We're talking, that's a wrong neighborhood for something good to be coming out of. I mean, they were just like, nothing good comes to in Nazareth. We thought you were, could be, but now that you're from Nazareth, I don't know. I mean, it just, they could not.

believe it and they were looking at him but of course you know that's why you had the role of miracles and these wonders because then you have the prediction you look at his character which i think we underestimate just think of all the people who watched him he never made one mistake at any point that's hard to do that's hard to even make up a being like that so i mean they're looking at it like because you always think if you if you're you're you're impressed with somebody or a preacher or whatever. And then it's a shock when you find out, oh, he has this past or he has this, you know, this incident or you see him make a mistake.

I mean, leaders mess up all the time. Yeah. But here's Jesus, never made a mistake. So in every situation, he always did the right thing. And then he has the ability to do these. That's, I just think that some of them put that together and said, you know what? this is it and that's why they were so bold

even that's why you get these crazy stories and a lack of fear because at the end of the goal of being a Christian is you put your faith and trust in living again so then you become really bold with that in my

so I'll just take the lead and I'll just jump in whenever you want to we'll kind of just get a feel for it Jay's we'll see how long we're going to do probably have time maybe to do our own cold open and because they're coming in 1115 and then when i feel like we've about done all we can do i'll end it and then we'll finish the podcast talking about so let's do acts on the person i've got a lead unless you have something good i mean i've got something to get us started i could have had something i could have had something yesterday i went and looked for a wedding ring

for four hours i think when you need to to hear that. They knew they lost it in the area. They called O.J. Well, Missy called me. Didn't find it. Didn't find it. We'll talk about that.

Are you ready, John? You found that chain pretty quick down there. So now people are calling you for a, like, well, my wife called me. And she was like, look. So you're now like a speed dial person for finding stuff. I mean, that's where this is going now. Well, Missing.

Chase Robertson, treasure hunter. She's like, one of my friends' mom lost her wedding ring. And so I told her that, you know, you could probably find that. I said, babe, you needed to temper expectations. I mean, did you lose it in a field or something? Well, you know, here's what. Because I'm thinking that they, is this like in the house? Are you now a metal detective people's houses even?

Here's what's crazy is she lost it within the last two weeks and she doesn't remember. Oh, boy. But when I met her. It sounds like me and my cell phone. Lovely woman. I mean, just loves the Lord and just a busy bee. And she got rose bushes everywhere in her own garden. And she has a kayak.

They have a little break behind their house. Beautiful. Catches fish. And she's like, I kind of. I was like, well, if you lost it in that break, that ring is gone. Oh, yeah. So I, you know, I gave it a world. I mean, I put over four hours.

Did you find anything else of interest? Oh, yeah, I found. Car keys, leftover change. This story doesn't have a happy ending. I found enough clad coins for probably a cheeseburger. That's where you get paid now. I found some copper pipe and some brass paraphernalia. You know, they were looking like, where's the ring?

It was like, it just didn't happen. It's hard to find gold. I lost, speaking of finders, keepers, losers, weepers, I lost what we call a drag. A guy sent it to me from Texas. and the drag is what you pull ropes up on the bottom of the river. You have a rope tied to this drag, and you have a hook net down there with a rope going out in front of it

and with a float on it. Sometime in float, boat will hit them or whatever, and the rope would go down on the bottom of the river. So you're sitting there, you've got a big weight holding the net, and then a rope going to the float. Well, the float disappears, whatever. So you go out there and you try to find them with that drag. Right.

The drags have three claws coming off of it. It's like this, about this long, about an inch and a half around. That's about a foot long. Solid coal roll steel, and they had to be built just right. Well, I was trying to get a net off the bottom. I got a hold of the rope, and I'd gunned in the motor trying to pull a hook net loose. The net was hung on the bottom of the river, 20 feet of water, current. So I broke my rope when I was trying to get that other rope. It was hooked to. The drag picked

up the rope. And I broke my rope. The rope, gone. So now the drag is down. So I looked down, I looked down 20 feet of water. My drag's on the bottom of the river hooked on to another net. And I said, sometimes you just got to kiss them goodbye. So I said, forget that. I had somebody to be with me another one. It was not as up to snuff as this one was, but it would do. A decade goes by 10 years later. I thought there's like this week. This is going back a decade.

I'm going back a decade. So I lose my drag. The drag is gone. Ten years goes by. I thought this was wild jesus doing his thing. I had a Bible study with the dude. He's sitting there and I asked him what he did for a living, you know, where you do when you, he said, I'm a scuba diver. I said, you're what?

He said, a scuba diver. I said, what you've got to do in the next two or three days? He said, well, you know, I said, get that scuba diving equipment. I have something I want you to pick up off the bottom of the river. I said, the currents down, the river's pool stays, so it's not swift. I said, I lost a drag. I told him about what I did. I lost it 10 years ago.

I said, but it's still there. I said, and you're the only man that can get it. I said, you never forgot. You said you let it go, but you never really let it go. And he said, do you remember where it is? I said, I remember where it is. Exactly. And he said, so you know that river so well.

You know where that drag is. I said, I can put you right on top of it. You'll be 20 feet above it on the water. So we go out there, and they took a couple of days. He comes. He's got his equipment. We pull up. I'm easing up the river.

I'm looking on the bank over there. You know, I'm looking to ease it along on the bank. And I said, right. And I said, right here. I stopped. I said, right there. I threw me a weight out to hold the boat. And I said, go down right there.

You'll find a rope. And when you find the rope, just start down that rope. At some point, you're going to run up on that drag I'm talking about. Told them what it looked like. I had one in the boat kind of like it. I said, we won't take you five minutes. He said, which means an hour.

Yeah, because we grew up with five minutes. He said, you know it's there. I said, it's there. So look, he jumps out of the boat like they do,

you know, fall backwards out of the boat. I see bubbles and he's gone. So I'm sitting there. I would say five minutes. All quiet. Five minutes. Probably 40.

I'm just sitting there. I'm seeing them bubbles roll up from down there somewhere. About five minutes goes by. I saw a hand coming up. Yeah, they had a drag in his hand. So he came for the dramatic hand up first.

He was a drag in his hand. And the rope had about six foot of rope on it where my rope had broken 10 years earlier. Success. He said, man, you got a good memory. He said, that's exactly what happened. I went down, found a rope, went down the rope, and you said it'd be there. It was there. I wonder how he could see down there.

Yeah, it's murky. Oh, it's murky. Couldn't see. He just strictly feel. But I put him right on tight. He said it was exactly. legs right underneath this boat he said how does you remember that that long i'm just glad he lived can you imagine look if something happens he gets tangled up and it's like i gave my life for a drag for

nets that that was 10 years ago yeah i told him to be careful i said there's a big tree top down on there somewhere i said because you know that thing was hung on that tree top what about one of them 175 pound alligator gar is that might have been one of them down there too you also told me to be careful a few times in my life when I was a kid and I realized that meant your life I hope it works out in danger and this is really not worth it you know that when he was describing that though you know it did my mind took me back to the scene in jaws the original jaws when they were getting ready to send hooper down into you know try to see if he could kill that shark that's that You described as a river version of that where you're just sending the man out.

The story I just told you. You hope he comes back, you know. The story I just told you, that was 30 years ago. That's how long it's me. You say, is your drag still in your boat? I had drag still in that boat. Yesterday, we used it. I got it.

And I said, Dan, what's his? I said, I'm going to throw this drag out. I said, I'm going to hook a rope out there. He said, what? I said, I'm going to hook a rope on. want you to back out in the river and I'm going to drag his weight out further out in the river. I said, I'm too close to the bank. That's reading this net ain't catching.

So I threw my drag out and I started coming up with it and I got the rope and the weight. And when he bagged out in the river and I dropped that old big weight, that's holding the net on the back end of it. So I told Dan that story, you know, he said, you got to be kidding. I said, no. I said, this old drag was gone for a decade. I said, I rounded it back up, scuba diver. the story of the drag. So that sounds a lot better.

My story, I was going to tell I lost my cell phone for like an hour, but it's just really not that interesting because we found it on Find a Phone. And I don't know. I've never found a person that didn't lose his cell phone on a regular basis. Oh, it was. Well, Phil, that's because you always have to start the retracing of your steps. Well, I went here. Did I lay it down there?

But the kids all start looking forward with the Find a Phone. And they're like, it's here. We always find them, get somebody to call. Yeah. Or we go in another room, somebody makes a phone call to that number. You know, br-br-br-p-p-and you're looking around. One, we found in the refrigerator. I said, Ms. Kay, how could your cell phone end up in the ice box?

It was what we call them old-school ice box. I remember ice box, yeah. And she said, well, I'm evidently out this winter. She said it was in between the cabbage and some soft drinks in the refrigerants. and the refrigerator. She had walked in there and get something, and set her phone down. She got her head of lettuce and came out of there,

but left the phone. You know, we're trying to track it, but you're not thinking the, the ringer is ringing inside the refrigerator. I said, y'all, y'all,

she said, I don't know what happened. I left here yesterday. That's one of hundreds of times they've been lost. My last words yesterday when I left here, I was like, well, if I don't find my key, I'll be back because I look everywhere in here.

I walk to my truck and I'm looking. I look down. It's in my hand. And so it begins. I've hunted to my sunglasses for an hour and then finally figure it out there on the head. I said, oh, my goodness. It's pretty embarrassing. You know, I found probably half a dozen cell phones metal detecting that had been smashed.

Is that right? Oh, really? Yeah. And I thought, should I report this? I mean, you know whatever happened. Yeah. Because they were, now, I guess theoretically, they could have been, they, you know,

something happened and they were, but they looked like someone smashed them and threw it out. So somebody's trying to get rid of some evidence. That's the fun part about finding something, Jay says, I'll get you to get this all the time, is then you get to make up your own story. I was up in Arkansas one time And I was in one of these beautiful lookout points that's up in the mountains, really pretty.

And I looked down on the ground in this, I'm just, you know, we're just observing the beauty. And I see glass and colored sand. And me being a guy who's done a lot of weddings, I realized what it was. It was somebody did a sand ceremony there, you know, and either dropped it because they pour the two sands in a bottle and it's kind of like symbolizing your life together, whatever. Or which, and this is a story I went. to in my mind. Somebody split up or whatever and they went back to the spot where it all happened and just smashed that thing right there on the spot of, you know, this lookout point. So it was either it was either something that was an accident or it was something that was something bad went down.

You was ridding yourself of the last vestiges. That's what I imagine. I imagine so. Some woman that just got scorned and said, I'm going to go back and smash it into a thing. And it was just glass and sand it all over the place. Trying to wipe the slate clean. That's right, making up a story. It's hard to run from your past. So yesterday, Jayce, I made an observation when I was leaving out and then it happened again coming down here. So we're, mom and dad, the last 15 miles to get out of here is the middle of nowhere.

I mean, you've got a few places, two people dotted it around, but it's mostly just woods that are used for, you know, pulp wood and all that. So we grew up, Jason and I grew up, we learned how to drive on all these roads out of here. So, you know, I'm like the back of my hand. You're talking about the river. But I made an observation because when I'm driving to town or coming out here, I would rather get behind a young redneck than an old redneck because a young redneck runs wide open. Now, they'll tear some stuff up and all that, but they're getting where they got to go. But the old rednecks, which I guess, Dad, you're in this company now.

They just drive as slow as they want. They don't care who's behind you. They don't care how long it takes. They're just going to putter because both got the guy I got behind yesterday and another guy this morning going about 30 on these roads out there, which is, you know, near the speed lane. 35 is. Right.

So you drive it, don't you? When you drive in, you're just right there humming along. Some deputy pulled me over and said, Mr. Phil, this thing is 35 miles of mine. I said, Chase would bring me. Phil, you were going way too. We were late to the airport. But I think you've told this story a few times. And the guy, you know, he just didn't want to be.

that guy. Right. But I'm saying, well, I point is, Jay. So I'm 56 years old. I'm not old enough yet because I'm still going as fast as I can to get out here and to get back to town. I'm not. Yeah. So you've already crossed over to.

Really? I mean, I just enjoy that. I just enjoy it. Oh, yeah. So you're the, so I don't know what happened to me. I'm driving about 35, 35. Yeah. I can't do it.

It drives me crazy. Now, in the old days, I would pass these guys, but now I don't do that because that's stupid. It's just how you get killed out here. So I won't pass them, but I'm just like, oh, man, this guy, you know. Well, there's different, there's different fruits of the spirit. So patience may be yours. I am an impatient man. I'm so bad about it. I've run up on a lot of vehicles through the years from here to town in the ditch. Yeah. In the ditch. Yeah, that's young redneck. Or against, you know, ram pine trees. Yeah, that's young redneck. Yeah. I'm somewhere in between. Drunk again.

Most of the time, yeah, or that. Well, most time it's early in the morning, and you're seeing the results of last night's festivities. We come down there and meet up during duck season, probably five in the morning. That's a couple hours before daylight. Yeah. Well, you would think there wouldn't be any traffic two hours before daylight. I've seen the most disturbing images in my life between three and five coming to duck nights. That's right.

Sometimes it's naked people running. We've got a meth. You wonder. We've got a math issue. What are they doing running and what are they doing naked? I mean, but the old days it was just drinking. Now it's meth. That's just, uh, it's terrible.

Let's take a break. But you know, Jay's, you know what the Almighty did to teach me about patience? Because I'm an impatient. I always have been fighted. He gave me a woman that I love dearly, but she can't leave. She's got a leaving problem.

She can't leave the house. She can't leave the church. She can't leave whatever. people would go eat she can't leave like it's time to go you know you know it's time to go let's go and she can't leave and so i had to just wait on her you know in the old days i'd just bow up and leave her or whatever you know and then it'd be a whole fight ensues but i don't i don't do that anymore i made sure early with your mother well i guess i did when it's time to go when i get up and she's like we're going we're leaving i didn't leave and the train's leaving the station the way mom

has solved y'all's issue with that is that she always lines up her own ride she's well that that's that's where you you got different options i mean you you'd like to carpool especially when you're married but i just thought it's not worth it so i very seldom do i ride anywhere with anybody you know my wife including me too i don't either but with lisa i mean we go we do an event she can't leave like that we get down to the last volunteers and And I try to stay till the last one, get a picture with everybody because these people worked hard to put it on. But then once that happens, I'm ready to go. Like, just standing around chit-chat and Al's ready to go back to the hotel.

Let's get out of here. She can't leave. She'd be standing in a circle of people. The last ones, it would be about six or eight of them to put the vint on. I'm long gone by that time. Well, right. And so I'm just like, what am I? So I'm, but it's taught me patience because I'm not going to be ugly to her.

But if it still bothers you, maybe it's not. Well, it bothers me, but I deal with it. I'm just saying. There's a long list I've noticed from all of our families. There's a long list of, what do you call them? Get Together's parties. There's something going on all the time. You're right.

Almost every other day. Well, we had Cy this last week and then Willie's got a birthday back. I have one. This he's got a birthday. You're invited. Let me tell you. Hundreds of celebrations. The one thing, because by the time this airs, I think it'll be after.

Yeah, it would be a day. So I'm good sharing that. I mean, it's a semi-surprise or whatever. But the one thing you get at my party, which I'm 100% producing, which is scary. I can't believe Missy allowed you do it. She doesn't know enough of that. I've got enough of the finest meats that I could assemble. I picked them up yesterday.

So one thing, because I figured, look, if you have good food, you've built a foundation for success. It helps ease the pain. Forget what, if you go somewhere and it's crappy food. Well, by the way,

if you're going to Willys the night before, I picked up two whole tenderloins yesterday at Sam's that Stone is cooking for that event. So the one good thing

about all these celebrations. That's today. That's Wednesday. It's crazy to me. So what are they celebrating? Willie's 49th birthday. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

But you get a family as large as ours and you're celebrating. every birthday that comes along? I mean, I'm just saying it's a little much. Well, most people in the world celebrate their birthdays every year, but you just don't even acknowledge yours, so that's the difference. I just don't see.

When's the last time you had a party? Jumping up and down and a lot of fun off of you being one year older than you were, especially when you get to be about 75. Well, that point. But you were the same at 55. I tell you what, if you come to Mrs. Birthday party, which could be yours as well. since the day after or whatever.

That's the only one who doesn't have a party plan. We won't, look, if you want to come, eat you a steak, we won't tell you happy birthday. We'll just act like it's not. Eat the steak and leave. If it bothers you. Well, when I showed up at Syes, they said they're throwing a big party because of Sye,

I thought celebrating that he's 73 years old and still alive. And he survived. So I thought it was the whole AIDS thing. He said, birthday, which is April the 27th. I got there and all that stuff, and I was talking about how old he was and how he was when he was young. I'm going with age saying birthday, birthday. Finally, somebody come up and said, we're not celebrating his birthday. We're celebrating him staying with that woman he married for 50 years. I said, oh, well, you know. So I was, I didn't even know

what we were celebrating. So you're probably about the wrong gift. You didn't even have the right gift. I got in there and stayed about that 40, 40 minutes. So, well, you met the night before was Sy's birthday bash. By the way, there was another party. Oh, is that right? Before his birthday. Yeah. Well, there you go.

I'm cutting in here. We, we talked. We did this exact same thing yesterday. I know we did it again. It's a repeat. I said cut that out. We did the exact same thing yesterday. So we'll add two minutes.

I mean, the exact. That's funny. So I don't know the transition to Axe. Well, let's talk about acts. Let's get back to X. We were in yesterday, or the last time we recorded, we were in Acts 18. I think it's where we left off. We were in Corinth.

Is that not correct? Yeah. So one of the things we didn't highlight when we talked about this at the very first of the chapter in Acts 18, but I wanted to mention it and get yaw's take on it. So he was, Paul was drawn to Priscilla and Achilla originally. I think it's a quilla. You say Achilla? Yeah. Now, back then they didn't pronounce the use like they do, but whatever.

You say, I was curious. You say, Aquila, I said, killer. So they were tent makers, and so was Paul. So what drew them together initially, I mean, they may already be members of the church. I don't know, you know, it doesn't tell us, but it says they were making tents together. And so I thought that was interesting that Paul, for himself, decided in his ministry that he didn't want to be supported by the brothers. But he says several times in his letters that support people who work for the church. He didn't have a problem with. In fact, he said, some of you serve as

an elder and you're serving the church, you get double honor. You should be paid double. So he didn't have a problem with it, but it was always interesting he didn't want to do it himself. And so I thought about that for myself because I spent most of my life been supported by the brothers, you know, and the sisters. And I appreciate everything they did for my family because I was able to work and make a living while I work for the church. But now I'm in a position this season of my life where I don't have to be paid. And so I still do a lot of what I did before. But I just, you know, it's just my donation of time and effort.

But I like it better. And so I sort of now for the first time my life I get the idea, I think, of why Paul decided he wouldn't do it. There's just, there's something that sort of ties you in in a way that's different. If you sort of have the, I don't know, the freedom to not have. have to be paid? I don't know. Well, by the time you get to Acts 18, what struck me is, as you cover the various things

that came up during their travels, they said to establish the kingdom of God, beginning in Jerusalem, Jude, Jude, Samaria, the end of the earth. If this is a bunch of lies thrown together, because it's either true or false. these events it would be amazing you would have to have the greatest troop of writers

and producers to come up with this many lives and this many things events that's happening and some of them are kind of funny and some of them are very

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