Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 27 | The Story of Joshua, the Origin of Lima Beans, and Joe Biden’s Home State
Episode Date: October 27, 2019Jase takes a trip to Delaware and, to his surprise, finds sophisticated rednecks. The guys talk about the origin of lima beans and the story of Joshua. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson"...: https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am
Unachanged
What about you?
All right, so I took a trip
this past weekend
to Delaware.
Delaware?
I have
Home of Joe Biden.
Yeah, my assistant,
which is Mrs. Ann,
she has pins everywhere I've been
the last few years,
and we've got it narrowed down
to there was only five states
where I have not done an event,
which is pretty,
incredible. I'm down to about five.
Yeah. Well, one of them. Delaware is one of mine
that I crossed off the list. I've never met
a person from Delaware, and
I've never been to Delaware. What do they
look like, but they look normal? Well,
look, you're going to be surprised. Because when you think
Delaware, what's the first thing that pops in your
head? Sleepy Joe Biden.
Bastion of left wing thinking,
whatever. That's it. I thought,
okay, it's a bleached date. I was thinking maybe
I should have, you know, I'm friends with
a few days. Don't tell me there's rednecks in Delaware.
Sophisticated redneck.
sophisticated rednecks.
That's what they are.
I go to this event.
It was a, I guess, a fundraiser for the Christian school there,
and it was called Del Marva because they recruit, you know,
kids from Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia.
Del Marva.
You get it?
Okay, maybe not.
That's the sophisticated.
That's why I said they're sophisticated.
I was trying to pronounce it, you know, finally.
Bonnie's like, it's the, you know, it's Delaware.
I was like, oh, Del Marva, I got it.
But you had it all like different, you know, ways to pronounce it and all that.
But here's what got me.
You know, I'm looking at the Chesapeake Bay.
We're going, because it's hard to get to Delaware.
You know, I flew into Baltimore, Maryland, and then we got in the car and drove three hours.
You know, I get up on this bridge and look at the Chesapeake Bay, and I'm like, wow.
I mean, you're talking about a sight.
And so after we crossed that, I mean, I'm starting, I'm seeing cornfields.
I'm seeing feed lots and every one of them was slam full of ducks and geese.
I'm like, I've run up on something here.
I pull up to the school and it's packed.
And now everybody were, they were well dressed.
This was like a fancy affair.
They all got, of course, I, you know, holes in my shit.
use, camouflage, you know, I looked around.
You're just looking like you look.
Yeah.
And so they did a little VIP line, and so I'm meeting these people, and it, I realized real quick,
because I would, you know, I said, I've never been to Delaware.
The only thing I knew about was Joe Biden, and they'd all roll their eyes.
So one of them said, well, tell you what?
Because I said, what are you into?
This was about the third guy in line.
I said, what are you into up here?
And he said, well, he said, me and my family, we love Jesus.
he said, I hunt ducks and I eat lima beans.
My kind of man.
I said, really?
I mean, the lima beans are included in the description.
When he said that, I thought, that's weird, but I didn't want to.
It was so weird.
I do like lima beans, man.
But that's not really part of your tagline existence.
Yeah, I wasn't getting it.
So I was like, what are these ducks?
Where do you hunt?
He's like, a hunt lima bean field.
I said,
Oh, the ducks are coming in on the lime of beans.
Everybody's eating lime of beans.
That's sophisticated.
We kill them of the ducks and then we go back home and eat lime of beans.
I said, you know what?
There's something about that that's exciting to me.
It's a plan.
Great plan.
So I got up and I spoke.
I'd say there were several hundred people and, you know, did my thing.
But the first thing I said is I said, look, I don't want to make anybody feel uncomfortable,
but I think several of you overdressed.
Because I know they were thinking, look, this guy looks homeless.
But I think we bonded.
I mean, I told Missy I could live there.
Next thing I know, you know, she's Googling places.
I was like, well, I mean, maybe let's just visit.
But I gave Delaware high marks.
So that just shows you we shouldn't stereotype these states just because that's what they said.
They said the bigger cities up north.
in North Delaware, that's who's, you know, passing the guy.
Al, we have godly people across these United States.
That's right.
We tend to think broad brush it by saying the whole thing's gone to hell.
Well, right.
But when you, like Jay's goes out there and I've traveled,
I was in Texas and in Oklahoma, and then back here,
I've traveled out every once in a while, not that much anymore.
But it has occurred to me.
when you run upon the godly,
it is a breath of fresh air.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not just,
I mean, they were awesome.
The people were fantastic.
They loved the Lord.
They were hunters and fishermen.
I mean, that's why I said it.
But they were a little bit more refined.
That's right.
Yeah.
And every time I said something,
they would say,
no,
say that again,
because they couldn't.
They weren't following you.
They weren't following the jargon.
They were,
they were being introduced.
to crudeness, godliness, but mixed with crudeness.
Well, you raised me.
But you think about, though, Dad, so the best we could,
the first group that came over here,
that's the area they all landed in, you know, right up in that area.
So, of course, you're going to have game and hunting and, I mean,
just all the things that they were drawn to when they came to the U.S.,
that's where everything was happening.
You know, we tend to not.
Well, they were the first state.
Delaware was the first date.
I was like, well, y'all started this whole thing.
They said, yeah.
And I said, now I know where the lima beans came from.
Just for that alone, they moved way up on the order of states.
Well, Jay, somebody sent me a speech that Attorney General William Barr, he spoke at Notre Dame law school,
and he just was calling for a defense of Judeo-Christian values and religious freedom
in response to the growing secularism in America.
so to prove his point when a guy like you,
follower of Jesus, you go way up north like in Delaware,
you don't know what you're fixing to see,
and you see Jesus followers there,
it's gotten aware that's an aberration.
It's enclosing on us.
They've exchanged God with government,
and here we are.
And I mean, it just, it just rammed.
and we get the thinking.
There's no way.
Barr basically talked to him.
He began by discussing the new challenges the United States is facing today.
It's a difficulty, he said, the founding fathers foresaw as the supreme test of a free society.
So the central question, according to Bill Barr, and I believe him, sounds like I wrote this,
was whether over the long haul we, the people, can handle freedom.
We think somehow freedoms built in without godliness.
And the founding father said, no, you lose your morality and you lose your virtue.
You lose your freedom.
That's what Bill Barr was saying to the Notre Dame law school.
And he basically, a lot of people were like, what?
No world.
To them, it was like earth-shattering to hear someone say,
we need to get back to God.
But God back in our schools.
I watched some excerpts.
It's really interesting, Dad, because I thought the same thing.
Here's a very accomplished, polished attorney who happens to be the attorney general.
Look at the vitriol directed at it.
I wonder why.
When I was hearing him speak, the segments I saw, I thought exactly the same thing.
I said, he sounds like that.
And it's really interesting because you look at you, Dad, not exactly the polished
picture of the attorney with the little alligator glasses.
That is correct.
And yet that was a very nice way to say that.
Well, that's very diplomat.
He's let himself go to degrees.
I do not have a legal mind as Bill Barr does, but how you're right.
But the messaging was exactly the same.
It was the same.
In fact, I thought that.
I thought, man.
Well, what they forget is Romans 131.
And it says, and that's kind of what we're talking about at some point today.
but everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities for there's no authority
except that which God has established.
This was God's idea.
Yeah.
So they try to, they try to separate that like you have, you know, Christianity over here
and then you have the government over here and it's like, well, God set the whole thing up.
Yeah.
You know, the fact that you can find freedom in this system, you know, spiritually and as a,
as a citizen is just awesome.
Well, and it's refreshing to me.
My dad said, I was refreshed that an Attorney General of the United States, who is our chief
law enforcement officer, would go and look at it and say, look, this is the establishment,
this is how it worked, which is what the founders said.
Yep.
Instead of this other craziness that you see.
I reel back the years.
I'm in my 70s now.
So now it's been long ago, right at 50 years.
I reel back, Al, and I asked myself a question.
I thought, in my four years to receive my undergraduate work,
and it went on to receive a master's degree,
I looked at that period of time.
Roughly, I went back at night school to get my master's.
So basically, it was about an eight-year run within the educational system.
system in North Louisiana, which is not a bastion of left-wingers, especially at that time.
This was within the 60s.
In the 60s, I was being educated within the 60s.
But already there, I asked myself a simple question another day.
I said, did I ever hear one sentence dealing with spiritual matters from any professor
through eight years of being taught, being taught.
It was all man-made stuff.
Not one sentence did everyone ever say something about doing to others
as you would have them doing to you.
Just one sentence.
Love God, love you.
One sentence.
I strained to remember and I said, not once.
So I had eight years of what it means to be educated with a man-made,
construct without God. It was there then. I never realized how that would come back to haunt me.
Once I left there, you say it was a long dry spell and the evil one moved in and Jesus moved
out and you say the rest is history. So now Bill Barber's talking about the just the astronomical
suicide rate and of course we're killing our own offspring and we're,
it's all a human construct.
You say, no room for God.
They want him have his name and their platform,
the Democratic Party.
So here we are.
I tend to from time to time worry maybe that it can't come back.
Well, think about it.
But I hold out the hope that maybe we will repent.
Well, you found your way to Christ at 28.
Yep.
And so therefore you knew.
But think about all the ones that you're described from your generation
that never found him.
And so what they're doing now.
They stayed with human hollow deceptive philosophy.
They stayed with that.
And that's all this is about.
Just meaningless facts versus character.
You know, if you just ignore character in human beings addressing that,
well, you'll look up one day and you'll say,
I had not one spiritual sentence or word the entire time I was being educated,
not once.
And you're right.
It was mostly done by people who were religious people in a conservative area.
Here's what's even more ironic.
You go back a couple hundred years before you were in college to where the part of the country you were at in Delaware and all those Ivy League schools.
They were teaching all the practical things that you need for education, be able to be a doctor, be a –
but they were also teaching the Bible right alongside.
I mean, they were putting out preachers, lawyers, doctors, but they were all coming out –
Ivy League schools were preach.
schools. I mean, that's how they start. Well, they're not anymore. No, they're not.
They drop that. Every year, what few Bible verses are left, they've just been taking them down,
taking them down, taking them down. Now they're into any statue that was he religious of any
Cahit? Removed it. Ripping down. Remove all Bible verses. It's just, I've seen all that happen
since I was in college. And I look back at it and I said, man, had I ever lost my way to resurrect
that, Bill Barber was saying, to resurrect that, it's going to take a, without him saying it,
basically saying it will take a mass turning on America's part.
Well, they got to recognize.
Let's try something really unique.
Let's introduce, reintroduce God into our school system.
They got to recognize that it wasn't the Bible or God.
That was the problem.
It was what people, what they were against was what people did with that.
Right.
And so, you know, there's the hypocrisy, the, you know, abuse, and we've gone through that, you know, and misusing Christian principles.
So what, but they're like, well, the problem's this book.
It's causing all those wars and all this conflict.
Nope, it's what the humans did, you know, with the book.
That was the problem.
Like you say in your speeches, the biblical principle is always something that uplifts and makes us better.
Oh, yeah.
When you look at this, how can First Corinthians 13 not do anything
except help people be better?
Yeah.
Well, every time.
Love is patient.
Love is kind.
I feel like God has put me in a situation where,
because everybody's kind of got to find their niche in this thing.
If you ended up in Delaware, Jace, from your roots,
if you ended up in Delaware.
It is profound truth that there is a God.
Or you'd have never ended up in Delaware.
were you know how i knew those people were we were going to be all right when i blew that duck
call you i did the ringer you know i got that from you i'm like i blew that ringer they all
went nuts they were hollering high-fiving and i thought he's one of us yeah yeah and then i asked
them you know how many of them loved jesus went nuts again you know i was like these people are
it is interesting though dad that you you're you could have invented
a lot of things in terms of hunting, fishing.
You know, you're always discovering little things that you would use to help us be more efficient, better.
But because it was a duck call, now all these years later, I mean, we don't even, none of us even work for the company much.
Jay says a little bit.
But what I'm saying is that call still is an initiator to what we're doing now.
It sure is.
But the call still is a duck call because it calls us, but it does pretty good with people too.
I mean, they find it intriguing.
But if you think about it, Al, what came out of?
It is ironic.
We look at the duck called, but no one had ever come along to our credit.
And we came up with, Jace comes up with a gadwall call.
That's a brand of a duck for you who don't know ducks.
Gadwall is a duck.
Jay's come up with how to duplicate that.
So we put that call out.
Mallard Drake call, no one had ever heard of that.
We built that one.
It's a whisper.
Wood duck called.
No one had ever heard of that one.
We built that one.
I had a little combo three ducks at one time on a little whistle, whizgin, pin tail, and teal.
They're all whistlers.
Well, I fixed up a little deal there that it would do all three.
So as far as, oh, dove, well.
You know, it's funny.
Well, I got my bag.
Look, I try to carry my wife.
So we pioneered a lot of different things.
And my duck calls.
But I know Phil knows this, but I don't know.
of the zelle how i came up with the galaw call is that we were working uh i think we were working a bunch of
pintails and so i was blowing my call i was like but i have my pentail whistle like right here
because because they whistle so i was like like that well then i hit them at the same time and when
that sound hit i thought that was close to a gawall and so then
when we got gadwall's working, I started blowing those two of a whistle and the call at the same time.
See, I'm down on the end of the blind and I look around when I hear what sounds like a gadwall.
I wanted to know how he was doing that.
He had two different duck calls, a whistle in one side of his mouth and a crack, crack duck call on the other.
And he was blowing him at the same time.
And I said, Jase, that sounds like a gadwal.
He said, I know it.
That's why I'm doing it.
I said, if you can call in Gadwals with that call, I said, I'll figure out a way to make that thing.
Well, it wasn't 10 minutes later.
It comes over a gad, about 30 of them.
He starts in on them, and they all just come right in there because of that duck call.
So we raised up, blah, blah, blah, boom, bough, boom, ball, we shot him.
And I said, Jace, I will go back and figure out how to put a whistle and a quacker at the same time.
We literally built a duck call that whistles and quacks samuble.
You remember what our tagline was for the call?
You remember?
I don't remember.
Ugly but deadly.
Because it's an ugly duck call.
It's ugly but deadly.
Well, we'd go to shows and people like...
That looks like a whistle stuck in that.
I was like, it is.
It looked like a duck call stopped too short, and the whistle ran right into the back end of it.
Because a galaw is an interesting duck.
It has a little whistle in his quack.
And they're weird that the males do most of the talking.
Very unusual.
When you hear him come over, you hear the males.
Cajuns call him gray ducks, but he's a fine, Doug, but we learned how to sound like him.
But I will have to admit, our gadball killed and picked up when we came up with that.
Well, I name my book Good Call because I feel like, well, I don't feel like it.
I'm called by God to share Jesus, and we make duck calls, you know.
Did you have to fight for that title, did it?
Oh, yeah, I had to fight for it.
You know, you had these publishers, you know, and they're like,
I mean, I don't mean to pray of any bad.
The name of the book, I remember them saying the name of your book, you know, that I wrote is, I mean, it was, it was like a paragraph.
It was like the life and times of reflections by musings of Jace Robertson.
I'm like, that's the name we're going with.
So I submitted good call.
And they's like, absolutely not.
Not going to have, you know.
So they Googled it, whatever.
but evidently some beer company used that in a beer commercial or something, you know.
So they said, well, we can't use that.
I was like, why not?
You're going to let, because somebody who, they were drinking beer who had a good idea.
You're going to let them use that?
I was like, no, I make duck calls.
I'm called by God.
Call ducks and we're calling men for God.
I was like, it's going to be good call.
And they're like, absolutely.
It took about six months, didn't it?
Yeah.
So finally I said, look, no book unless its name gets called.
So ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is people who follow Jesus and hunt ducks.
All these things we're doing in the Old Testament aisle.
You can get right on them if you want to.
Way back over in the judges, you know.
But just everybody needs to remember moving forward,
where the Jesus is coming stage, way over in the old.
Testament. Which is a good reminder. I mean, and I think I said that in, I don't know,
podcast three, the three sections of the Bible, Jesus is coming to earth because obviously
we can't keep the law. We have problems. We need redemption. And Matthew through John is Jesus is here,
and actual revelation, he's coming again. I mean, even though we're hanging out in the Old
Testament, Jesus is coming. If you just hung out there, I mean, this rate at all. That's why Al, as we go
through this, Jesus is coming. You'll know the truth when he showed up. He said, he told those people
where he was from, Nazareth, he goes in, they unroll a scroll handed to him. He was reading Isaiah
61. When Isaiah started with the Spirit of the Lord is on me, he has annoyed in me to preach it. And when he
got through reading that,
release the prisoners, you know, give sight to the blind.
Then he said, today these scriptures are being fulfilled
and you're at your hearing.
He went back 700 years, told him the one Isaiah was talking about,
that be me.
And he sits down and they said,
it says the eyes of everyone was fastened on him.
They're like, what did he just get through saying?
he went back 700 years and said Isaiah the prophet was talking about him and now he's on the scene
but when he went on to say you'll know the truth the truth that sets you free from Satan
from sin from guilt from a law or works like Jason mentioned set you free from that and set you
free from the grave for crying out loud well you you look back in the Old Testament and
that's where it was all headed way back
from Genesis 315, someone from a woman would crush Satan's head, you know.
Well, and that's why it's important.
A lot of times people say, well, why do we really need the Old Testament?
But you mentioned, when you're talking about Bill Barrett, you're talking about Judeo-Christian,
it's important to understand Jewish history because that's Christian history.
Yep.
You don't have one without the other.
That's right.
Jesus was Jewish.
And it's just subtle things.
You know, when I preached a couple weeks ago, I shared this thought that, you know,
one of the arguments against God from a biblical viewpoint is,
you know, Genesis 1, 3, you know, God said, let there be light.
But he didn't create the sun until the fourth day.
So the people who oppose God, they're like,
well, how'd they have light without the sun?
Right.
And so I did this deal about God is light.
And, you know, when you read Revelation 22,
it says we won't need the sun or, you know,
when we're all together because
God is our light.
You know, the verse that says God lives in
unapproachable light or whatever.
But it's so weird how they take small things.
They look at the Bible and they're not looking at the person who wrote it.
They're just looking at it as a manuscript that they can try to pick apart and find inconsistencies.
Especially with, you know, when we come to Joshua and judges,
they do the same thing because they're like, well, this is graphic.
I mean, these things, there's wars going on and people die.
I mean, how could God sanction all this?
And, you know, because it just doesn't fit their narrative of everybody holding hands singing
Kongwaya.
It's God's fault instead of our own.
Right.
When we hate our neighbor and we get, look, the slaughterhouse did you read about
in judges where we are kind of in the text in the Old Testament, that's slaughterhouse.
You will go back before that, before the flood, you say,
slaughterhouse, slaughterhouse, slaughterhouse, slaughterhouse, someone says, how come there's
so much slaughter going on way back there in the Old Testament? And you all kind of get into all that?
Well, fast forward. Now it's 2019 years since Jesus got here. And I would say, based on what I've,
the wars I've seen while I'm lived on earth, Al, it's still a slaughterhouse. What's ironic is
this is the same sand that we've been talking about. We slaughter our own children for crying out of
Sam we've been talking about that's in the news these last two weeks about Syria and, you know,
Trump pulled the troops out.
Sure.
People are unhappy.
We were supporting the courage.
We're not.
That's the same sand they were reading about in this Old Testament.
Where there was a lot of war going on.
There was a lot of war going on.
I mean, it's just, it's, but I believe God.
Nothing has changed.
No.
But God set this in motion with the idea that he would become one of us and be slaughtered for us.
Right.
You know, we tend to think.
that all happened before Jesus, but it actually, that was his plan all along, because God is not
like us where he's up waiting or traveling. So he knew the whole reason that we have a physical
body in this spiritual world that we came from, you know, our citizenship is in heaven,
is so that he could become a human being and be killed so that we could all be saved.
He became flesh so that he could die. And the murder continues.
but in this case, the murder of the Son of God, Jesus, saves the world.
Yeah, and saves all the bad events that we read about in the old town.
Talk about a wild story.
So let me catch everybody up.
And by the way, I appreciate everybody.
We've been getting a lot of good feedback from you guys that are listening and watching
about how much you've enjoyed, you know, sort of the biblical narrative that we've taken on the podcast,
and that's what we love doing.
The last time we talked sort of our, we kind of following central figures.
in the Old Testament and sort of telling their stories,
but then how it all has kind of woven together
as we talked about this morning.
We left off with basically God's people being formed as a nation
at the foot of Mount Sinai.
And we talked about a lot.
There was a lot of fear there.
There was a lot of eventually idolatry.
Which would be a shadow of those in Jesus.
Right.
Thousands of years later becoming, I think it's Peter.
that says the sacred Peter we're the holy nation right of God right which was the shadow that God
the living awesome God could actually live with people in an intimate way in a in a
priest yeah priests uh as a nation a city you know there's different ways so the rest of the book of
exodus doodrami is there leviticus is basically the setting up of god's nation you here's your
What you just said, here's your priestly responsibilities.
Here's the law.
Here's the law.
If you have a nation just like ours.
The Hebrew writers said it was a pattern of what was to come.
The reality hadn't yet come yet.
So you had your 10 majors, kind of like what we would call our Bill of Rights,
you know, the 10 major things, the law, which are, you know, still we look at,
we've talked quite a bit about it, a lot of great principles.
And then there was all these underpinnings of laws, food laws,
and all these different things that were laid out.
So God had always planned on taking those people, and then they were going to live in a place that he had promised Abraham about several hundred years earlier.
Remember, Abraham was called out.
He said, look, in about 400 years, this land's going to be given to your descendant.
So we're kind of following that narrative as this is happening.
The problem was the people were so faithless and kept wanting to go back under slavery and back to Egypt.
that God said, okay, one whole generation, you don't get to go.
So everybody that came out, the initial generation, you don't go.
So they just stayed out there for 40 years, so that whole group died out.
That's hard-headed.
It's harsh, but at the same time it's like, you're not going in because you don't have faith.
And so that kind of takes the next step to what we're going to be talking about today.
Yeah, I was reading that last night, you know, when they said it had been wondering 40 years.
I forgot where I was exactly.
but it was like all the men of the military age,
you know, they just died during that wandering.
And so all the kids that had been born,
well, no one of them had been circumcised.
And so he made them be circumcised.
We had a mass circumcision.
And, boy, I thought, boy, I'm glad I wasn't in that camp, you know.
Think about it out.
Think about it.
Think about it.
No hospital.
Yeah.
Hey, just get them up here.
Think about it out.
You got a code that's introduced by God.
And then the code, worship God and Him only, don't bow down to idols, don't misuse my name, work six days, rest one, children, obey your father and mother, don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't lie, and don't covet.
It's the greatest code I've ever witnessed coming out of anything.
You say, if the human race just kept the code.
Yeah, it'd make a great planet.
It would make a great planet.
You say the law never was the problem.
We were the problem back then.
And when Jesus was on the earth and now that he's come and died for the sins of the world,
you're like, we're still here, but the problems are always the same.
Sin, the evil one.
And also, I think just a rehashing of it.
People have to get in their mind that God doesn't look at death as a problem.
I mean, some of these stories that we're going to read were people, the whole nation was just annihilated.
I think about, you know, Joshua and the Amlicites in Exodus 17, which I think we're going to talk about that.
I mean, God at the end said these people will be, not only are they going to be wiped out, their memory is going to be wiped out.
Oh, yeah.
So I got on the Internet and I Googled, you know, modern-day Amlicites.
and it was like there's no history or, you know, any archaeology to show that they ever were here.
And I thought, well, God was right.
So it's interesting because you'll have somebody that doesn't believe the Bible and says, well, see, you brought up these, no, he said there would be no memory.
That would be no memory.
So we're looking at back.
Here's what I found fascinating, though.
And I was reading the world encyclopedia, even though it was on the internet feel, which I know it's hard for you to get a grip on.
But then they said, but you know, God committed.
horrible genocide and atrocities against this nation.
I was like, well, wait a minute, what are they talking about here?
You know, and it just, it basically made an argument,
whoever wrote that section of the encyclopedia,
on how God got it wrong here.
This was just a murderous, you know, act of an angry God.
And that's when it hit me when I read that, I thought,
no, they don't understand that death is not a problem.
God can't die. He's eternal. So trust me, if there was someone who warranted salvation or life,
you know, forever, if they die, he fixed that in 0.01 seconds. That's right.
It's not something that's a problem. It's just a problem to us.
Plus all these stories, Al. It's a redemption story about the pretty small remnant of individuals,
human beings who had literally had faith in God, beginning with the patriarchs.
And you look at it, you say, boy, thank God that there were some men there.
They said, no, I'm not budging.
Since Jay's brought it up, Joshua, who is our next generation after Moses.
We talked a lot about Moses.
He was like Moses's assistant.
Yeah, like a scribe.
He was his right-hand man.
And he was also, because we see him, the first time we ever see him is in Exodus 17,
he was a military man.
He was in charge of the military force.
And this is now...
Did you say general?
Well, it would be, yeah.
That's what we would call it.
But remember, we're going back.
They're not even really a people yet.
I mean, like they haven't formulated it.
This is pre-Mouth Santa.
But God told him after Moses died, he said, you're the man.
I think that's in Joshua.
I mean, you need to step up.
Which that whole first chapter of Joshua,
it says, you know, be strong and courageous.
like five times.
You know, because he's like, you're going,
because he knew they were fixed to get into war.
But there's a verse in there.
I'll find it.
The key thing was when he said,
be strong and courageous.
He actually said, I'll be with you.
And if you trust me,
you know, nothing's going to happen to you,
which I thought was interesting
because it's hard for us to be strong and courageous.
So remember why you're looking for that,
the reason Josh,
would understand that when it was his time to lead to be Moses to basically be the man that it started
with him down in a valley fighting the amylokites that jays just mentioned and the way god set it up was that
he put Moses up on a you know ledge up above him up high and so the people would look up and so he told
Moses put your hands up you know and so as long as Moses hands are up the people will look up and
they'll have the fervor, you know, to be, so he's just saying, trust in me.
Well, then his hands got tired.
You know, they're fighting down there.
It's a battle going on.
It's one of the greatest stories.
And so, so Aaron, his brother comes along and a man named her, which I always thought,
if your name is her, you've got to be secure in your masculinity.
Yeah.
He was H-U-R.
But anyway, so they're holding up, they're holding up the arms of Moses so that every time
they'd look up there at the deal, because that's where their strength, you know,
Moses' hands start going down.
Everybody would, oh, no.
And the other side was, sir.
You know, it's just imagine what that was like.
I mean, you know it was a brutal barbaric scene,
but you can't help but just think,
oh, we're losing, we're losing.
We're winning.
But look, there's what God does with everything.
There was a purpose in that.
One day he would have this speech
where he would tell him,
you've got to be strong and courageous.
But, you know, look at Joshua's life as he comes along.
Joshua was also there when most,
Moses would go out and the Bible said the glory of God would descend on Moses' tent.
And when Moses would walk out, he was glowing.
I mean, like literally, whatever was happening there, he was going.
Well, Joshua was present.
He was in their right and stuff down.
I like that kind of stuff.
I mean, that's incredible.
So you're saying this man has been prepared.
Then he was also one of the 12 spies that was sent in to say,
what does this land look like?
He and Caleb come back and they think, oh,
this is awesome.
I mean, you wait until God gives us that they're fired it ready to go.
The other 10 are like, oh, we look like ants.
You know, they were so big and scary.
We can never do this, which was the heart of most of the people,
which is why they had to wander around 40 years.
So Joshua was showing all along sort of his bona fides that he's going to be the guy.
And the point from Exodus 17, you know, they were wandering in the wilderness.
They got thirsty, which, look, when I read something like,
like that because I'm panicky about not having something to drink.
You know,
I got water around at all time.
I have an ice chest in the back of my truck.
It's full of water at all time.
Because I don't,
you know,
I just don't want to,
why y'all think that's funny?
Because you're the quirkiest person I ever best.
Like,
who worries in a place where there's plenty of water that you're going to run out?
Hydration.
Hydration.
I drink a lot of water.
I'm just saying I don't like nervous about it.
I get,
like my wife knows that.
Like we're in it because I don't like going through the airport.
because you got to give up all your liquids.
He's quirky, quirky.
I have a bottle of water and I'm like holding it to the
and Missy's like, I mean, you're not going to die.
They got a water machine on the other side.
You're not going to dehydrate.
I'm like, I just don't like giving up my water.
You better not ever live in the desert.
You would be a panic.
Couldn't live there.
So, but my point is they're out there thirsty.
And then the whole question is, is God with us?
because if you just think about you're out there wandering around in the desert,
you're like, well, it doesn't look like God is with us.
And so the scene of that war where Joshua is introduced,
you know, that was the same time where Moses went over and hit the rock
and the water came out of it.
Well, later on in the New Testament, you know,
Paul said in 1 Corinthians 10, he was warning us from Israel's history about,
because churches have a wandering in the wilderness,
which is really awesome when you think,
what's wrong with our church?
You know, sometimes we just have to have that wilderness
to realize we're dependent on God, but God is with us.
I mean, and that was Paul's idea.
It wasn't mine, but he said that that rock
that accompanied you was Christ.
You know, Paul said that 1st Corinthians 10,
which goes back to that central theme,
is God with us.
Could you just think about what that does to you personally?
And so then, you know, Moses raising his hands.
Well, what message to that sin?
Same one.
Yeah.
Oh, God is with us.
Well, that's what inspires you.
You think about any situation you have, any sinful temptation.
If you ask that question, is God with me?
There's your answer.
That's why you eventually, in 1st Corinthians 10 at the end, he says,
no temptation has seized you except what is common to man.
For when you're tempted, the Lord,
always provide the way out.
But you get lost in all these cool stories of the central theme,
which is, is God real and is he with us?
Those are the points.
That was the whole point of that whole section,
that whole, you know, calling Joshua out.
So then when he gets to Joshua 1, which I found that, by the way,
he says, as I was with Moses, this is Joshua 1-5.
Well, it says no one will be able to stand up against you all the days of your life.
What a statement from God.
I mean, okay.
No one will be able to stand up against you.
Because as I was with Moses, so I will be with you.
I will never leave you nor forsake you.
Then he says, be strong and courageous.
Then the next verse, he says, be strong and very courageous.
And then he gets to the end because Joshua basically tells the people what God
that had just said.
and they answered Joshua they said whatever you have commanded we will do
wherever you send us we will go and then in verse 18 it said
and whoever rebels against your word and does not obey
whatever may command them will be put
whatever you you may command them will be put to death
only be strong and courageous but I thought that was good
which is our attitude when God says I'll be with you
you know we're like whatever he wants us to do we're going to do
wherever he wants us to go, we're going to go.
And whoever opposes us, oh, he's going to handle that.
That's right.
Well, and look, when God repeats himself about half a dozen times,
that's one we are to log into the banks.
And as leaders, you have to know that.
Why would you need to be strong and courageous?
Because leading people is difficult.
Because there's so many distractions that come in.
And we'd already seen that in the story.
And of course, Joshua's going to see it.
And by the time we get to judges, man, the whole thing turns upside down.
Well, Joshua was in one.
I mean, you read the book of Joshua.
I mean, it's one war after another.
Oh, yeah.
And he's continually winning, which is awesome.
But it's always...
Winning.
It's always because of that precedent that started off.
If God is with you, who can be against us?
Exactly.
So I don't want to rush in because there's a couple of awesome stories that are at the beginning of this.
So I think we'll save those for next time, but exactly what it looks like when we let God fight a battle.
Because that's the way this thing is going to start.
And I think it's really, really interesting.
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By the way, God's challenge.
Oh, wait a minute.
The best anniversary.
Yeah, the final, carrying out, what he said.
to Joshua way back there.
He says to us, his people, marriage should be honored by all.
This is Hebrews 13.
And the marriage bed kept pure for God will judge your daughter on all the sex tomorrow.
Keep your eyes free from the love of money.
Be content with what you have because God is said the same thing he told Joshua.
Never will I leave you.
Never will I forsake you.
So we say with confidence the Lord is my helper.
I will not be afraid.
What can man do to me?
Pretty cool.
The Hebrew writer took that same concept all the way through, which was today's lesson.
Y'all don't forget that.
I think the only place Joshua was mentioned in the New Testament, don't call me on that,
is Hebrews 4-8, where he talked about if Joshua had given them rest,
God would not have spoken later about another day.
But he was talking about entering, leading the people to the promised land,
which is what he eventually did, and then how that relates to us.
then it goes on to say, you know, that's the same place where it says nothing in all creation
is hidden from God's sight.
Right.
I mean, God knows our heart, even though it might be a wilderness journey or it might be a spiritual
war, you know, or even a physical war, you know, I mean, God's the one that institutionalized
these government agencies and, you know, I think he's in control.
And there's nothing wrong with fighting evil physically or spiritually.
But we're, you know, the bottom line was, and the bottom line is for us, you know,
Joshua led those people with the rest, but the big rest for us is living with God forever.
Well, let's face it, Joshua had arguably, arguably the best line in the Bible in Joshua 24,
I think it's 13.
As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord, which is how he ends it.
Love it.
Which is an awesome verse.
So next time we'll pick up Battle of Jericho and then,
pop in to see some of the judges as well.
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