Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 272 | Phil's Miraculous Snake-Evasion Tale & What Jase Really Wants to Find While Metal Detecting

Episode Date: May 7, 2021

Phil reveals why he won't play golf, and Jase admits to being demoralized by his son's golf skills. Phil is delighted by what Jase's treasure-hunting buddy did with the 18th century Spanish real he unearthed. Jase's college experience didn't last long, but somehow he managed to get into an argument with the instructor in his first-aid class. Phil describes a snake encounter that led to a gravity-defying leap. Jase explains why the last chapter of Romans should be read first and what his metal-detecting goal is. And the story of Phil's meeting with a purple-haired girl has a great ending. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jase, I was, when I was down at the Southern Lair last week, I had this surprise text from your oldest son and daughter-in-law that said they were coming down there with some friends. And we'll read that down there because they were going to play golf. And I was like, well, yeah, I'm here. I won't be here but another day or two. So I went up not playing golf. But what interesting about us, they played golf where we always play at Peninsula. The Peninsula. And they had a young couple with them, I think, that are about to get married,

or maybe they just got married. I missed out. But they work with Brighton. But it was really neat because, you know, the Kirby's were there with us. And so, you know, they hadn't really been around Reed since he's, you know, gotten older and matured as any person will do. So he's talking about all his business. And I was watching Randy listening to your son.

And he was looking at me like, who is this person? You know, it's interesting. He's still thinking of Reed at 18 years old. I mean, Reed is a man that knows how to, he's building a business. You know, he's building a house. I didn't know you were going to tell that. I didn't even know that happened. But I figured you didn't.

I saw Kirby within the week a few days ago. And he said, boy, your son's really doing well. And I was thinking, how does he know how my son's done? What I didn't know is that your daughter-in-law plays golf. and so did her little friends so these other two people were nurses and so they all went and played golf but apparently she was pretty good

oh yeah that's what they were saying which really surprised me I didn't know power I mean I was shocked the first time I saw her play she can smoke it yeah yeah and Reed's really helped Reed is naturally gifted and golf with just power

and finesse I'm not sure how that happened but it's got a lot of the athletic gene that came down I guess through dad Well, look, as a dad, I'm super proud of him, but it's also demoralizing when your son steps up there and hits it about 3.30, effortlessly. And I'm up there thinking, you know, crack it. You're thinking old age is creeping in. Yeah, I hit it down there about 250 down the middle.

But still, it just, the power is just ridiculous. Well, Jason is still in that mindset, dad, that he hadn't realized that he's beyond competing. with the youth, you know. You know, like I'm 75. Somebody said, man, what up to your left arm? You know, the muscle. Oh, here we go. We're back on that arm.

I said, a bunch of it all turned and went that way, you know. What do you do about it? I said, I don't guys at all, let it ride. You're going to get a new arm in heaven. You know, it's interesting? The last time I played golf, which has been a while, I was out at the Squire. And Weaver played with a buddy of mine who lives in Dallas.

Now, he was coming in town, so we went out to play at DB. DB. Oh, yeah. He invited me, though. He's actually, you know, just a stud also. So we're on about, I don't know, 14 or 15, number 14 or 15. It's really hard course, but we were just enjoying the morning. It was nice, catching up.

Well, here comes a golf cart, which I thought we had done something. Because you have a history. I have a history of golf courses. A nice golf course is this. Reprimands come often. Here we go. Because I'm looking at DB. And he's like, are they with you?

I was like, no, I have no people here. So I don't know who this is coming. Because it was like they were on a mission. Well, as closely got, he's like, oh, no, that's Sam. And turns out it was Sam Burns, who's a professional golfer, who just won yesterday his first tournament. Of course, this is three or four weeks ago. He was practicing out there, but he knows DB.

He went to LSU. And it was surreal because yesterday. day I didn't watch the golf for anything, but I was just seeing the day's events. And I'm like, I just talked to that guy. I just met that guy. He was out practicing. And now he wins his first PGA tour. So congrats to him.

Oh, that's awesome. And yeah. It was like the time we were out there playing and David Thoms was out there practicing because he was about to go to the British Open. And so we were out there like, we were hitting balls and we go over because we know him and he's hunted with us. So we went over talking to him and said, yeah, I'm just trying to. to, you know, just to go to the open next week.

And I was like, it's surreal to me, too, because you're like, this guy's fixing the, you know, travel over there and playing a major. Well, I mean, I thought. Do you win it? I don't, no. I don't think he's ever won the. Yeah, he's won one. Maybe that's the one. He won the PGA.

Okay. He won the PGA. That's when he hit a hole in one or something with a five wood. Yeah. No, but this guy, but I noticed these, these guys are physical specimens. You know, they, they, they, now the workout. His legs look like two tree trunks. I just noticed.

that. So what's, by the way, I'm just, I'm not a golfing man. Never, never, never, never food with it. But people are going to find that shocking. So what's the, what's the optimum age when they seem to kind of get it all together? When it's gotten younger? I would say, when do you get over the hill being nice here? Yeah.

Because I don't want to offend anybody. When do you reach a level years-wise where you say, you know what? You know, once you hit, is it 40? Oh, yeah. It's before 40. The prime is 25 to 35, wouldn't you say? Yeah, and it's getting younger all the time. Yeah.

Is that right? Yeah. Well, this guy's maybe 23, 24. So what's you're saying, Jay, this is this golf is a young man's game. Well, it is because they're hitting the ball miles. They're young and strong. Yeah. Arnold Palmer and all these guys, they got, you know, they were still hanging around.

Yeah, but here's what changed. Well, here's what changed. 60s. In the old days of golf, you go back and watch, you know, early coverage. when they had, you know, because it goes back before TV, you know, it was kind of older, fat white guys that were playing golf. Nobody was really in shape. That's right.

You know? Oh, yeah. And so, but that all has changed. They weren't known for their athletic prowess. These guys could probably. They were known like, you know. Well, Tiger Woods changed all that. Yeah.

Which my wife, shockingly, told me she watched that there's some show out about him or something. Yeah, there's like a documentary. She thought it was enlightening too. So what you're saying is if you had to give a news flash to Tiger Woods, basically, Tiger, your years, they... Well, he just had a car race. You don't want to say it's over, but... Actually, he had made it.

How do you coach a man to say, now you hope your earnings that you've made in the past will sustain you for the next few years, but it's... I don't think that's going to be a problem. It reminds me of that country song, I'm on the backside of 40. You know, once you hit 40, I mean, I think they know. Well, I'll put it this way, Dad. The oldest age for a major winner was Jack Nicholas at 46. That's the oldest one in the history of golf.

Tom Watson, almost the year Stuart Sink won the open, which I felt sorry for him because he seems like a nice, really nice guy. I mean, his wife had had cancer's incredible story. He just won three or four weeks ago at Hilton Head. I mean, I have no malice, none for any golfer, but I'm just trying to get a picture of it. I played one round, and when I asked, so what do you think? I'm like, I think this would be a lot of fun if you were good at it.

Yeah. And if you're not good at it, I said, this is a nightmare. You actually hit the ball pretty good as well as I never played. I remember you teed one up in the yard and hit it across the river. I was shocked, you know. Just hand-eye coordination. You can't, you know. But you got to remember these guys.

It's like Bubba, who we're friends with, said one time, you know, when he won the Masters for the second time, he's like, hey, all I could, all I got to do now, the rest of my career is show up and wave. So I'm saying, I like his, his thinking process. I mean, he's like that, because you win the Masters once, what, it's lightning in a bottle. Yeah. You win it twice? You're showing up and you're waving. So what are they? So, so it's the, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's.

It's not only what you get that day. What do they pay if you win the thing? A million? Two million for the match. It's a pretty good. But not really. You give half of it to the government. So how much all these companies in their golf?

No, it's tidaless. Oh, that's where they're making them. All these guys. It's all. Phil, these people are not worried about money. But what I do like is when like Dustin Johnson. Were they rich kids to start with or some of them? Some of them were.

Some of them. Some of them. Bubble one. You know. Yeah. Bubba was very humble. Pinskola, Florida. I mean, you know, he had a very humble.

Well, last year, when Dustin Johnson won the Masters, people were a shock because he's, he's Mr. Stud and his demeanor is always cool. And, well, he got choked up when he won the Masters. And people were surprised because they were like, you know, here's a guy who's got millions of dollars. He's dating some supermodel or, you know, it's like he don't care. What happens? But it choked him.

up. They were like, was he choked up. Well, you know, it was the masters. I mean, it's more than about money. If you win some of these contests,

the supermodels, they come with that. Well, yeah. I know that that's, is that considered like a fringe benefit? I mean, I learned that from our TV career,

because I'm like, whoever this woman is, I was looking for the treble hook. Because I thought, if she's interested in me, guess what? Jase always have That's scary

It's scary Moral benefits of wisdom And the wayward woman Be careful, Jaysman You get a warning against the adulterers Re proverb 7 And to keep these golfers in land I love

Well I think the older I'm getting The less I'm playing golf And the more I'm digging in the dirt Because Because I just, I've developed. It's much safer. I've developed, anybody that's a golf guru out there, I've developed the pitching yips. And I actually asked Sam when I met him, I was like, I got the pitching yips.

Where do you need to get so that you reach a level where people are not laughing at you for what you're doing? Well, that's what they're doing. I think in golf you could be laughed at, literally laughed off the course if you're not careful. You have to laugh at yourself if you know you're not going to be very good. I see them throwing, you know, they do something and the bad move. I don't know enough about golf to know when it was a bad move. But when they make a bad move, they like either break a very expensive stick or they sling it out in the pond. Well, listen to this.

And the last. I mean, I've been thinking it's pretty expensive. Yeah, there's an interesting story. I know what to. Yeah. Well, my funniest, the funniest story I've ever said, I can't remember his name. But who was that guy? When he took the putter and he just started banging it on his head until he broke it.

That's what I'm saying. I've watched some of that. Woody Austin was his name. The antics tell me a lot. I don't want to fool with that. And when you're beating your own head with your golf club, I'm thinking, there was a South Korean in the Masters that just got played. He was like three or four under on day two, and he's on number 15.

And, of course, the greens at the masters are ridiculous. And he three puts. And the pressure begins to mount. But he's like four under on the day. I mean, he's in right there. He goes over and he's right by the pond because they, of course, you know, the media. It's slow motion because he three putt and he went over and he took that putter and he just slammed it like a quick jab into the ground. Well, it broke.

And so now in the, in the PGA. tour. How do you get another club in a hurry? No, it's against the rules. You can't. If you break your club, so look, this guy, which it doesn't matter, because you would think, oh no, what's he going to do? He's going to use his three wood. He putted with his three wood.

And look, and putt it well. I mean, it wasn't like he was like, like if I had missing any putt. I mean, if I had to putt with my three wood, you know, add 10 strokes to my score. I mean, because I, but you're speaking of language, three wood, as opposed to what, four wood? But I can, I can, as opposed to a putter. You don't, I mean, I

I can put with my three wood. A putter is for putting a three wood. You hit it about, I hit my three wood about 240. I am completely ignorant of the game of golf. That's probably a good thing. So I was going to say this I had before we, you want to take a break? Yeah, let's take a break. Before we give some ideas and thoughts on Romans, because that's where we're headed,

I had a really a great occurrence happened Saturday, which we've been. been metal detecting in this place where there's there was an old plantation house it's a couple hours away you know from my house well then the neighbor i told you the story who had had a clef pallet he gave me a check for the mea moof on you know so well we were going back there saturday well we got there well the original place we went they were removing some trees and to to a metal detector when you just disturbed the ground there's opportunity here because you are where there's a carcass the vultures together so look this guy oh bob I looked up he's he's he's he's

almost running he's an older gentleman but he's like they're disturbing the ground you know come over here because when I got there late I didn't even know where they were and all these people are calling me today so so I go over there I If somebody famous just answered, then we'll put them on the bucket. And I stepped 10 feet into the new dirt and bloop, blo, blo, blo, blo. And I dug up a seated Liberty dime, 1876 that looked like it just came out of the mint. 1876. 1876.

Beautiful. That dime had been in the ground a long time. So what I was going to tell you. I wonder who dropped it. So Mary wasn't feeling well. you know, he's my right-hand man and he's going to be, we're going to on this show that we're going to do,

which they said for me not to talk about it, but I said, wait a minute, unashamed. Why are you talking about it? Because it made me angry. I haven't signed anything yet. So I'm like, it's a free country. Unashamed Nation started this. I mean, I said, let's do a poll.

If you want to do the show, let's do the show. And they're like, oh, everybody's scared, you know, oh, we don't want to, we don't want to what? We're going to do a pilot episode, and if the network, which I won't name, likes it, then we'll do more shows. But we're getting close to that happening. So you were giving a gag order, which you're now defying. I'm defying because I thought, Unashamed Nation built this.

Plus deep in your heart, Jay's, you don't have to have this. Exactly. And number two, Roberts says don't like to be told what to do. Well, I'm like, wait a minute, we haven't even signed anything yet. Why are you telling me not to talk about it? These are my, I'm bringing these people with me. They cause this. I would think you would want the secret to sort of be made manifest.

I don't know what's wrong with these people. They all sit in a room and they're like, don't say a word. I'm like, there's no crime. that has been committed. I get it if you're a criminal. And you go in there because the more you talk, the digger, the deeper the hole. But the holes that I'm digging has nothing to do with a crime.

These people gave me permission. We're going to do a show about it. We need to figure out a point to the show. What's the point? But they say some of the most famous shows are about nothing. Well, Seinfeld made a whole career the show about nothing. I think we're into that camp. So anyway, I was going to tell you about the hunt, though, because I learned a valuable lesson because, and look, this is a confession of sorts.

Usually, you know, we're talking about the Bible and we're trying to, you know, change the world in Jesus, make it a better place. But every once while you realize that you're doing something that could be done better. And so I'm going to have a little bit of a confession here. And I got to appreciate Murray. So Murray doesn't feel good, but I found this half dime. and old Bob finds a diamond ring, gold with three diamonds. Wow. And I'm like, oh, my goodness.

I mean, we're cackling. And so we send Murray, we're like, does this make you feel better? He's like, I'll be there in two hours. So I didn't realize you, the treasure hunting, what you're doing with a thing. It's medicinal. Oh, yeah. It warms the soul. As a healing quality.

It warms the soul. So Murray finally gets there. And of course, they're just disturbing the dirt everywhere. It looks like a bomb, you know, hit this place. They're moving trees. That's your. That's hot. It's new ground.

We're finding different things, you know, and everyone. Well, Murray kind of went off into new ground that we hadn't gone on this property. And I hear a sound like I thought it was somebody. in pain and it's murray and i'm and they were like kind of running toward him because it was four of us you know together go over there that joker finds a silver a spanish real and and the the dates that they made that were 17 i think it was 1773 to like 1782 and you can only see the 17 because the the back two numbers but you know it was in that time period which look This is from Spain.

They only made it less than 10 years. And he finds one in Louisiana. Are you kidding me? This is like the Holy Grail for metal. All I can think of is chiching. Well, listen to this. This is where I'm going with this story. And he calls such a ruckus and they're hollering, taking pictures.

Well, the couple who owned the house, they're like coming up. What happened? You know, what's going on? You found that on my land. Look, Murray without hesitation, no hesitation. I mean, he's literally 10 minutes in it. And he's like, I want y'all to have this. This is y'all's land.

This is an awesome fine, you know. Well, old Bob was like, Murray, what are you doing? I mean, we'll give them a collection of the other. Let's get up the diamond rain. No, it means more for me to be able to give you this. And boy, I don't know. That just, it just hit me. He was literally filled with joy to give it to him.

It makes me glad to know that I converted him to Christ. That's exactly right. Oh, it was awesome. Which tells me, and he always has been, as you know, a very generous man. That's right. It really is. And it is their land technically. Because Missy was like, I was telling her the story.

She was like, well, shouldn't you do that anyway? I was like, well, yeah, babe, but it's like when you get a new car, you want to enjoy it for four or five days before you turn around and give it. I mean, there's a period in there where you're like showing your friends. I was like his first response was, look how awesome this thing is.

Here, you take it. Did they take it? Yeah, but they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they'll, I think when they realize what it is, this is a conversation piece for your, you know, you put this on a. How old are these people? Are they older?

I would say, no. they're, I would say, mid-30s. Oh, so they know that, or they could look up on the internet and find out what it's worth and then say, hmm, because some people, you know, I mean, if you don't, you save all your stuff because you're not doing it for the money. But, I mean, if something was super valuable and you could get some money for. I don't know. It's not in great condition, so I'm not sure you get, it's worth a lot of money, you know,

but it's worth a lot to somebody, you know, whatever is worth what you can get for. A collector or whatever. But, well, the next question, the next question would be, what's it? doing there. This was made in Spain. Yeah. Who traveled over here with that in his pocket? Well, you got to remember, though, the Spanish flag did fly over Louisiana for a period of time. Well, that's the connection. Just look. The Spanish came before the French. Yeah, they were back in the same. So you know what happens? When this kind of thing happens, well, now we're all over there. You talk about like a bunch of vultures. Yeah. In that area. But, so we're trying to ask.

It's like a good fishing hole. When somebody starts catching fish, everybody. boats. Well, we usually show some respect. But when you find a silver Spanish rat, oh, we're like a foot from the hole, just going round and round. The vultures have gathered. Looking for the coins bill. Everybody's shoulder to shoulder now. Yeah. So anyway, we, so we branch out from there. Well, then we find, we start finding different things from an old Civil War camp. They camped right there, which we didn't even know because all of a sudden I found a bullet then a guy found

Bob found a button that had an eye on it which was an infantry button I mean he was going crazy you know which I wasn't familiar with it but evidently it was a great fine well then I find this little flat button that had a cannon on it which was the you know he was like oh that's the armor

you know division of the what he was just spitting all this out Murray is quite the historian in this. Oh, yeah. It was a great, you know, just day. It was one of the best hunts I've ever been on. So I got a question about that, but let's take a break. So do you, was Murray and Bob, were they already historians and then they got, then they

got into this, or did this drive them into being a historian? They were historians first. Their love for histories what drew them to it. See, like, with me it's different. I don't know history very well. at all. Your lack of educational prowess has been a consistent theme on this project. I was street smart out. I mean, I made it through most of my school smoking mirrors because I wasn't paying attention because I don't like being trapped indoors. When you trap me indoors, I start feeling

claustrophobic and I can't concentrate. So when the teacher was talking, I was looking outside at a squirrel chasing a hiccreen. You are the man that said, Dad, I've learned how to get through. this whole thing. Yeah. And I said, how do you do it, Jay's? Jay said, I can be looking at the speaker with my eyes open, but I'm actually sound asleep. I am proud of that. I said, that would be a good skill set.

I'm proud of that skill set. Well, I did. I helped Jay's. He says in his book, he rightly gives me credit for getting him through preaching school. But for those of you hadn't heard this on the podcast, if you're a new listener, we talked about this a while back, that Jay's. his college career consisted of golf and first aid was the two courses he took at our local college.

My first semester. His first semester. So at this point in his life, he did not have a goal to be reached. But he thought, I'd give him credit. He went out there. Golf and what? Golf and first aid. Golf and first aid.

Because he figured those were two things he liked and needed. But he dropped out. So what I'm saying is, you know, when you can't really get through golf. And we wonder what happened to the country? You're probably not a college man. I mean, well, me and the professor had a little bit of a disagreement in the first aid class. And it escalated quickly.

And I just said, you know what? I'm not doing it. And it was actually over a spiritual conversation because I'm like, this is first aid. And this guy comes in here and starts pontificating on all the, problems of the world. And I didn't agree with him. And I just, I raised my hand. And so I was like, what are we doing?

What's this got to do with first aid? And it just, from there, I thought, I'm not. And then this led to the conversation. He was part of the narrative that what they say is the author of life is saltwater. That's where. Well, you got to remember this, Phil. And you know what? What he would say to that?

Well, you believe the author of light is dirt. Created this from dirt. No. Well, I believe the author. We believe we came from dirt. Right, right, right. See what I mean? Yeah.

It's the, well, he was that type of conversation. I believe if you're the author of life, you could take dirt and breathe into it. That's my point. And because of your power over the atomic structure of all things, you could actually make human beings out of dirt. That's right. Or a rib. But they don't have somebody taking the salt water and doing that.

They just have salt water. I think believing there's a being that can make humans out of dirt is no far-fetched than people do believe no salt water actually made or something. I'm like, well, I was just clarified. You hold on to that. I'll hold on to this. Well, and the big question. This has got payoff, but yours does not.

The big question of that is, and we've talked about this with evolution before, too, is we still got salt water. And I'm not seeing it produced a lot of stuff except things are swimming around. You got to give it time. In a million years. Yeah, not enough time. Somehow another, this all evolved and happened

and then it stopped. It's the craziest. But, you know, good luck. You need it. So to get back to my point, the hunting aspect drew me in. But I have to thank Murray because when I saw that, I thought,

you know what, I need, you know, need got to keep this in perspective because you find this stuff and you think it's cool and you start a collection and it starts growing and but all you're going to do is put it in a box somewhere and it's just stuff even though it's cool history to find it because it was lost but it does tell a story it tells a story but you should you should use it to find true treasure which is more about the relationships and the people that you meet so one of my neighbors out by where we have our bed and breakfast

and a wedding venue place at Logg Town. By the way, that continues to produce, you find the stuff after as much as you've hunted it, you still find stuff. Well, one of my neighbors, they had an old cotton gin there, and I went and asked them if I could hunt it. Well, I did and didn't find anything but modern stuff.

But I was looking at the trees in his yard, and I was like, I mean, if I was going to have a place, even though I'd looked on the maps and it didn't show anything, it just looked like an old house used to be there. I said, do you mind if I checked that out? Well, I checked it out. Oh, yeah. It was old bricks.

And so I started finding stuff. So what I did was, based on what Murray did with giving that them, I made a, I took one of these glass case boxes. Because I've been hunting there at my neighbors four or five times. Because I tried to give him the first silver coin I found, which was, I think it was an 1898 dime. and he's like no you keep that but through the times i've gone now i've got quite the little collection i found an old spark plug looks like i don't know when the first spark plug was made but it was in that range i mean it is cool looking and not really on its own and i found this welfare token that i didn't even know we had welfare tokens but at some stage that's what it said

it looked like a because i found them before that said luxury tax token but this was like welfare good for one it was a one dollar you could go to a store i guess i didn't know the welfare system went back that part i didn't either but well that they were giving away money back before i knew they were giving away money it's kind of sadfully comical when i saw that i thought oh boy but a dollar could go a long way back in them days well that's right and uh and then i took my two best coins because i thought i put this from a spiritual light i thought it's the same way we do with giving, you know, to God. It's all his anyway.

But we should give him the best, you know, off the top. And I thought, this is their land. They've allowed me to go. Now, granted, they're not going to find this stuff without me. Or, you know, most of these people, they don't care anything about getting into metal detecting. But I thought, you know, I'm going to make a little display and give it to them. I think I worded, I wrote them a note.

I was like, allow me to reward your hospitality with a bit. of history. And, you know, I signed it. I put a good Bible verse there, like 15. They really are a poet. That was very poetic. That was a good way to put it. Well, I thought that sums up what's happening here. But then the friendship that I made is worth more than this stuff for finding. But it's good. I like it because I'm a million miles away. It's beautiful. It's, you know, it's something, it's a good hobby. And so what's funny about all that I sell this when Murray, the last part of this story. So now, our adrenaline got to pumping now because now we're fine and we're like it's a camp we're on a campsite and we started finding different buttons and the guy found the end of a bayonet and you know we found another this was a something for a knapsack and you know bob's telling us what everything is i found this triangle thing and he's that's this and we found a harmonica read and we're just finding all these different kinds of buttons and so like the pace is picking the

up and we're going down to where they've been clearing. And so you're trying to find new ground. And I'm like at the edge of the lake now. It's like, boy, they probably, and I took a step and I stepped on a snake. And let me tell you, all the adrenaline. And all I just saw was the head pop up, you know, and turn around toward me. And it was like one of those moments where you black out and I looked up and I was 20 feet away. And I don't remember how I got there.

I don't blackout when I see. You're having a snake. Well, I did. I literally had an, either I jumped 20 feet backwards, or I just, I don't remember what happened. I went from there, and they were all looking like, what? I was like, a snake, I stepped on a snake. I don't know if it's poisonous.

So one of the guys, what, he's still just sitting there. And I was like, no, I'm poisonous. We're good. And I heard, whack. well you didn't have to do that i mean but it scared him enough people don't hate that's saying that break we've been on light snakes well didn't you have a story wasn't there a story from your i don't know if y'all were kids or whatever when

Tommy y'all were picking blackberries and i just remember something about somebody doing a super human it was a lesson in adrenaline yeah because he's below me on a on a bayou bank and we're picking dewberries. How are you? So we're 13, 14. So we're moving along this Bayou Bank picking Dewberries. So he takes a step, and I'm up on the higher bank,

like the bank's like this, I'm up here on the top. He's down at the bottom. Well, there's an old value down there. Well, I just look down there, and he's looking down that the Dewberry's picking. But there are two cotton. mouth, Marxians lying there with their head kind of raised up out of the water like that. And like, look, they're like this.

Wow. They're big as the upper part of your arm. These were a big cotton mouth. And I just looked down. I said, cotton mouths, Tommy. And then he was just fixing a step on them. So he was on one leg, on the left leg at the bottom. He was taking a step with his right, which is going to go right in the, right in the jaws of a huge.

There were two of them, and the one opened his mouth. I saw it mouth open. That's what got your attention. Tommy's foot, I got my attention. I looked down there and I saw a flash. Well, that was that cotton mouth opening his mouth, you know, fangs. I mean, Tommy's is this close, his right foot coming down on him. He's listening to that was about six inches.

He's on his left leg. He looks down and sees he's fixing to stomp on a bull, Congo. He makes a leap. he just and he just comes up the bank off the one leg he comes up the bank

way further than any leap I've ever seen so he just it's a miraculous leap at first but it was just an adrenaline rust but I bet him

when he hit the ground in front of me you know closer to me the snakes eased off out in there I said I bet you I got a bet he said what's that

I said I'm betting you you can't do that again. You can't jump that high. He said, oh, I jump out high. He got down there where he was, the snakes are gone. He could make it about halfway. That's it. The old adrenaline.

Typical redneck. You almost died, but I have a bet. I have an idea. Do that again. My point was true. He could not make that leap without a cotton mouth fixing to bite him because the old adrenaline is something. That's why I was telling you.

I looked up. remember how I got away. But I said, He was leaping and you were blacking out. That's the only difference. I just don't remember. I don't black out when I said. But I just,

I move in a hurry. But you know, I mean, you know where I was going with that? I thought back to the garden and the snake and then we're having fun, you know. And you don't put your hope and trust in things anyway. And the relationship, it's more about the relationship. And I thought about, you know, in the book of Romans, we're going to study that. And the least red chapter in the book of Romans is chapter 16, which is the last chapter.

And Paul, he goes through this long list, the whole chapter pretty much, thanking people that he's met along the way that have contributed. And it really is the same principle on all these churches that are meeting in various locations. And male and female, there's two women. who risk their lives. He starts off saying in 161, I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in where I can't pronounce that.

I asked you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of the saints and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been a great help to many people, including me. And then he goes to the next, which you know, you've heard of Priscilla and Aquila or Akila, as else is my fellow workers in christ jesus they in jesus they risk their lives for me then it goes to the the next part says uh greet my dear friend who was first converting christ in the provern he was the first convert to christ in the province of asia greet mary who worked very hard and it just it goes on and

on and on and it's the same concept in that the church is made up of relationships people who are connected with God and they use whatever resources they have to keep that going up. That's the big picture. So when you look at it in light of finding stuff, the greater story that's going on is meeting people, hopefully introducing them to Jesus, hopefully establishing churches that are not tied to some building, but more a group of people,

whatever the building structure looks like. And so that's what I wanted. I just had a thought about before we even get into Romans, I think it's helpful to read the last chapter first because it seems like a lot of deep theology. And you're picturing in your mind, here's the Roman church, this grand, you know, building built in an incredible transformation of the culture. And you get to the end and he's thinking all these people that just seem like

ordinary people meeting in their homes and giving of their money and their talent to try to further what they have in Jesus. I love all the Greek names in there too, which, you know, as you get going down in there, you see some amazing names. By the way, I was going to mention this Jay's earlier because the last podcast we talked about the dendrology being the study of trees. So our crack staff here, look that up, Josh. and dendron is ancient Greek for tree.

So, yeah, so the dendrology, or the dendrologist, these guys comes from a Greek root word about tree. That's because, you know, that word, we're like, Well, after I said that, it popped into my head that I should have said an arborist. You know, they have Arbor Day, which is kind of. Planetary. Planetry, was it, John Denver? Tomorrow.

Which, look. I ain't. I'm not hating on John Denver. I love John Denver. Rock him out and high. And thank God for a country book. My question, if you are, in fact, a bona fide certified dendrologist. Another appeal.

I would love to know, where did they come from? In your humble opinion, your studied opinion, because you're a dendrologist. You're studying them. Where did they come from? Did saltwater make them too? No. Did molecules come from? You know what they're actually going to agree.

They're going to say the dirt. Yep. Come out of the dirt. The dirt made them? Well, that's where they can't. You said where they come from? They're going to say the dirt. It's the obvious answer.

But you have to have, you would have to have some type of seed. Well, I agree. I'm on your team. I'm seeing a little acon. I'm seeing a little acon and it's a little round thing. And, you know, you know, again, is about like this, Al. Just about like that. and I'm looking at a thing, throwing some dirt,

and I see this, what the world? Did that thing turn into? What I'm looking at that came from it, it just doesn't seem possible because a squirrel to eat the acorn. Every year for the junior hour, and you look at it 100 years later, and it's producing thousands of acorns

of making other ones, and I'm saying, there's some raw power going on there. Hang on, let's take our last break, days. Where did that come from? Every year when I taught the junior high I'd bring in an acre and we would look outside because Salt water couldn't have made it because salt water kill an acre. But I'm telling you, Phil, they're going to say, you're missing my point.

They're going to say, well, you believe we came from dirt. So you have to have an answer for that. Who made the salt water? We might have come from salt water, but it would have to be. Word to salt water. It would have to be got, I mean, technically, because the dirt got mixed with the salt water. I mean, I'll work with you on it. As long as we agree that God above created that to happen.

I'm leaning that way. Yes. Design man demands designer. Because the spirit of God was hovering over the waters like we talked about. So he was there. I mean, I would, yeah. So I just want to bring that point up to say that most people when they have a Bible study, you know, Missy said something to me recently that really made me think.

she was part of a community Bible study where they were like let's set our religious differences aside and let's just study the Bible and she said there were hundreds of people that that attended this but they all broke up into small groups and no matter where you are from or she said most religions were represented there but she said what what she noticed after a while and they studied the book of Romans. This is why I'm bringing this up. She said, what I notice is that every conversation that we had was centered around the church building. It's just like you read the verses and you discuss them and you talk about them. Case and point, she'd say like, if you were talking about being a servant or being humble

to other people, well, all the comments would be about looking for opportunities at the church building to do this. For the two or three hours you're there. Yeah, she said, what was incredible to me, she said, I'd never noticed it before, that it just took her a few weeks to realize nobody talked about the times in their real life. It's like, we're here having a Bible study, we're studying the Book of Romans, we're making practical applications as it only relates to the two hours that I'm part of the church. And right now.

Right. And she's like, that's why I concluded, and she's the one that brought that up, when we read, she's on Roman 16, this seemed like when you read this chapter, these people were living for Jesus every day. It's a great point. Because the first sentence, we're back to the book of Acts, we're back to Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. This Jesus shows up.

Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle for one reason, and set apart for the gospel of God. That's the whole book of Romans. That's the whole book of you leave Acts. You say, what was the focal, the focus, the book of Acts? Jesus died. Jesus came in flesh. He died, was buried and raised from the dead. the book of Acts, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,

I'm going to die, be buried, and raised from the dead. They're like, you're going to do what? And he repeats that from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and then records what Jesus said actually happened. Yeah. So you get to Romans, and you get to Romans, he said, I'm set apart for that right there. Right.

And what I'm saying is the focal point of a series of points, the flow of each sequence of events always points to Jesus coming in flesh, dying, being very and raised from the day. Well, my point is, Phil, if you only shared that on Sunday morning or at church, in quotations. Oh. You're missing the point. This was a movement of people, which is why I told that all about the metal detection. I'm like, the goal here is not to put a bunch of silver in a box.

the goal is to meet people and try to show and share the ultimate treasure, which is Jesus, and the benefits of that. Romans 1-1 tells you what the creed is. The city of Bill Creed, but you say, where does it start? Well, it needs to start with all these guys before us were set apart for the gospel of God. And actually the first 11 chapters of Romans is basically just a deep dive into what you just said. That is correct. So Paul explains it in a very, you know, deep way.

Everybody, he's going to start in verse 16, Romans 116, which is the name of our podcast. That's where we got her name from. I'm not ashamed of thee. What gospel? Well, you said that's what he started with. Well, do you read through it? It's over and over and over and over. Jesus died with bed and raised from the dead.

The first from 118 to about 320, 321 is a group of individuals worldwide of all the people's on earth and their condemnation without this. Without the gospel, here's where you are. So it's the doctrine of condemnation, 118 through 320. You're like, it's a brutal read on why. life is like for a human being without the gospel of God. It just really explains what we first brought up about the garden, about the curse of sin. Jace, to your point, I think it's really interesting because people are listening to this

podcast on a Friday. A lot of them are at work because I talk to so many people. They got their earbuds in. They're working a job where they can listen to us. So you're at work on Friday hearing these spiritual truths and stories and stuff. stuff we tell to impact the people around you. And it is. It's working.

So it is out of the building. It's got to be where you work. I baptized four people yesterday. We baptized four people yesterday. And they were from four different states. They came from four different places. And they came and they said, we came every one reason.

Because our faiths, we heard it on y'all's podcast. Is in that Jesus died for me. I had it written back behind me right behind me. in big letters, God becoming flesh, dying on a cross, being buried and raised from the dead. That's all we told them.

And I've worked a little bit in the Romans. And I look, whether you look, Matthew, where you start there, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans,

the focus is always on Jesus, who he is, what he did, like he said, would happen, what he's now doing, the mediating work and what he will do.

You said, it's all tied right there. Well, I just wanted to bring up the more when you read this, list in Romans 16 about people risking their lives. One of them it says they were tested and approved in Christ. I'm like, how do you, how are you tested and approved? You know, others had people who had worked hard and, you know, it gets to the end and he greets someone that says who's been like a

mother to me. And when you start seeing all this, you realize these people were leaning on each other. they were encouraging each other on a daily basis. 24-7. And he gets down to the end, he says, greet one another with a holy kiss. And I thought, you know, you kiss people that you love and that you've been through things with. This was more than some kind of establishment that you're just setting up a camp and you're going to put a couple hours in every week. I mean, they were being persecuted. They were having struggles, but they were not.

getting off that Jesus Christ is Lord. And to me, that's what I think you have to put in your normal, everyday life and look for opportunities, no matter what you're into. And to your analogy, it will close with this. There was a little girl that came, walked up to me two Sundays ago, and she had purple hair, which is, it stood out. Her hair was purple.

It's a thing now. I said, girl had you get that hair. It looked purple like that. So I said, well, you know, what do you think? I said, it's a wild-looking hairdo. And she said, would you pray for me? I said, sure I would. I never seen the girl before in my life.

So she said, my teeth are killing me. She said, they are, I'm in misery right now. And I said, I'll tell you what, I'm going to pray for you. And then I'm going to get you to a dentist. and I said he's going to fix your teeth baby so I pray for the girl I got one of the brothers who meets her he's a dentist so I lined it up she went to him and he told me later I said send the bill to me he told me later he said he said I may split it well you don't worry about it so he said but we're going to fix that girl's teeth so he said her mouth was in terrible

shape so I think you had to pull four or five of them so So the bottom line is we got her out of her misery with these teeth, and you say, what's the purpose of that? Pointed to Jesus. Her sins can be removed, purple hair and all. And he could raise her from the dead. So you said that the purple hair getting in the way of you trying to help this little girl out, the purple hair was not an issue. I didn't care what color it was. That's the point of keeping the gospel, the gospel, the front and center.

So see, removed her sins. Paul, true story, by the way. If you were greeting everybody, you could say, and the girl with the purple hair with the new team. All right, we're done, huh? We're done. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes.

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