Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 275 | Jase Robertson Battles a Bat Invasion in His HOUSE

Episode Date: May 12, 2021

Jase takes on more than a dozen bats in an epic 48-hour battle, but a tennis racket, Google, a phone call to Missy, and a sheet are no match for the creepy invaders squatting in his house. Phil stops the conversation to pray for a 9-year-old girl who has cancer. And Phil, Jase, and Zach dig into what "the obedience of faith" means, what Jesus' death started, what the Gospel is, and the difference between how humans and God approach power. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? All right, I need y'all's advice. We have Zach today. Al, he's probably on a beat somewhere. I've been battling bats for two days. Bats. B-A-T-S with teeth, not baseball. So with that initial statement, we are free to come. call you today Batman. Oh, I've become Batman. I'm laying on my couch. I didn't know such. I never heard of says, Jay, so. I'm laying on my couch watching TV. I got my two little dogs there, missy's in Austin. Not bothering anybody. Not bothering anybody. Thinking about today's events. It's a weekend. The comfort of your own home. Yeah. I think I was watching a baseball game.

How could bats be a part of that? And all of a sudden, A bat, a fairly, I would call this a large bat, flew three inches in front of my nose and slammed into the window to my left. Of course, that's never a good, that's never good. The dogs erupted into sheer panic. And when he came back through, he actually nick my hat. And one of his wing hit my hat. So I'm like, what in the world? You understand they are a bat.

They are known to carry rabies. Yeah, that's what I've learned. Yep. So I was worried about. Just the thought, and he's barely missing you. So I then hear multiple windows begin to sound, you know, like, so I thought, what's going on here? Something's hitting them? Yeah.

So I'll walk in the middle room where the fireplace is, and I'm seeing multiple bats flying around my house, inside my house. That's going from bad to worse. I actually filmed it, and it was kind of like, what's going on? But then one of them came at my head and made contact on the way by, and then I thought, I got a problem here. yeah so i'm thinking what do i do you know i went through the process of what what do we do here i've got bats and so mistake number one was for some reason i called my wife now look looking

back on that not good when a grand when a grown man calls her a woman because you see it bats i don't know why it's not good jace so listen to this i call her and she said i said we got up bats in the house and I'm sending her the video while I'm talking to her. And she, she was like, what are you talking about bats? She thought baseball bats. I was like, no, these have teeth and wings and I'm being attacked here. What do you, who do you? Yep, yuppie, what do you think? Would not be a, not, not, not many of them would be, uh, ready to receive that kind of, that kind of predicament. So she said, why on earth would you call me? and I think I hung up on her I just thought yeah why did I do that so I hung up and moved on

because I was in a war I felt like so I called stone stone was like I don't do bats so I said I guess I'm on my own here so that started a series of events that lasted I would say 48 hours which is is day 48 hours oh yeah I went to bed the second night at five A.m. Because here's what happened. So I go in there. Well, the first thing was I needed a weapon. So the only thing I could find was a boat paddle. But when I charged in and I opened all the outside doors because I thought, well, I'll just get them to go outside and we'll end this party. So for about an hour, I swung and missed, I would say at least 30 times because they're so fast. So how many bats at this time as the hours went on and on? How many bats are we dealing with here?

I would say at the peak, it was 15. 15. 15 bats in my inner room. And look, they flew around for an hour and none of them would leave to. spite all the doors being up. So I couldn't hit them. So I said, I need a better weapon. So I go over to Willie and Corey's because they play tennis.

I said, I need them. There was a few of them standing there. Corey, Willie wasn't there. John Liddy. Something on wider than a boat path. His wife. And you know what it turned into? It turned into a CIA investigation because when I said, I need a tennis racket,

Corey said, I didn't think he played tennis. I said, no, I don't. I have bats in my house. And the boat paddle didn't work. and I've knocked over everything that Missy has set up that I didn't even notice was there, candles and lanterns. And I said, that's all on the floor. A bad killing is a free-for-all.

Yeah. So she got me a tennis racket. And then meanwhile, John Luke's wife is like saying, okay, they don't like white sheets. They're drawn to long hair. She's all of a sudden, like running the Internet giving me all these ideas. And it's like, don't swing at them because that they defend themselves. And like everything that they're saying, I've already violated. And so I basically created a hazmat suit out of a sheet and took the tennis racket.

And I went in, back in. Because I thought if I never built a fire, because I concluded that they were coming out of the chimney. Because they were all around that fireplace. And so I still have the doors open when I walk back in. Now I'm in this suit that I created. They're still just round and round and round and round, up and down. And at this point, you haven't ascertained where they're coming from. No, I didn't know.

But the fireplace. Because if you're on the outside and you get on the inside of a dwelling, there has to be a portal of some sort that you're going. you could fly through to get there. Well, that's what I was thinking. I would be looking for the hole in the house. I'm assuming it's the fireplace, though, Phil. That's what I'm taking.

So I go in there. Now I got the white sheet. And whoever wrote that on the internet, he's full of crap. Because that had no bearing. All they did was see me coming. Yeah. You know, but anyway, so I'm in, I look like a ghost. Missy actually asked me to take a picture because I said, well, I got a, we,

I sent her back a text because I felt bad for hanging up on her. I was like, I got a plan. I'm going to war. And so I thought I had, I thought I had all of them out about two or three hours of that. Now, because now I'm being, I feel like they can't get too many of them. Are you killed them or they leaving the premise? I never hit one. I mean, I nicked a couple.

I mean, look, it sounds easy. These things were flying. They're going. They're guided by sonar. They're guided by sonar. You're not going to go. Yeah, that was another tip. So I turned off all the air.

I turned off the ice machine. That was another thing I did before I went in. And I turned off all the outside lights. They said, do that. Wear a white sheet. I did that. So I go to swatting with the doors. Every door, the outside, the inside doors I have closed,

all the outside doors I have open. So I just go to swatting. And so when I looked around and said, okay, problem solved, well, here was a funny part. Are you picking any of these up by hand? No. No, you can't touch them. They weren't lighting. That's a good move.

You don't want to fool with a bat. So I stumbled outside trying to find some firewood, which I thought fire seasons over. It's 90 degrees outside. And so I'm like, because I'm fixed to build a fire. Well, so I'm outside looking for fire. I'm in firewood and dig around. you know, on the,

you're building on a fire to put in your fireplace thinking that to burn them out. Well, I thought I'm going to

shoe them out or hit them out and then I'll smoke them out if they're coming out of the chimney, which is what I thought. So I see my three, these three teenage

or two teenage boys and their little brother, they're my next door neighbors. You know, I didn't realize how I looked at that point because I'm in the war zone. And I heard one of them. I'm digging around looking for wood.

And one of them, I hear, Mr. Jays, are you all right? So then I looked up and realized they think I've had a nervous breakdown because I'm in a white sheet with a tennis racket. And I hit something and busted the strings in the racket. So then I put a net over the racket. I'm sitting there. I still have the tennis racket and I'm gathering up wood. I said, boys.

I'm in a war with bats. And I don't think they believe me because they started backing up. I was like, no, it's okay. I was like, do y'all have any bat knowledge? Because you know how smart those kids are. They started telling me all the stuff that I had read, which is they're attracted to the sound. And so I was like, yeah, I got that.

Yeah, I got that. So I go back in, start building the fire, thinking they're all gone and of course here they come again they they hadn't left that what was happening is they'll they'll find little places under the rocks or where you can't see them and they you know hang upside down but i get the fire going so now i got a blaze going well then they kept coming and so one of them i thought got hung up in the sheet and even though i didn't think he was bite me i mean he was in the sheet with me and that sheet's coming off So I flicked it off. Well, when I flicked it off, the end of it hit into the fireplace where the fire's going, well, now it ignites.

And so now I'm like, oh, good, I'm fixed to burn my house down. So I had to get that out while the bats are flying around. Take that outside. And then I like reassess the situation. I'm like, this is not working. Because I got a fire. I've tried this for hours. They won't go outside.

So I'm like, you know what? I'm out of here. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm abandoning the war. I give, this is not working.

So I left and, went and played, went over to a buddy's house, because I thought maybe they'll give me some ideas, you know, we wind up playing cards. So when I come back,

I left all the doors open. So when I come back, I thought they were all gone, and this is why I stayed up to five in the morning, I got a spotlight out, turned all the light, he got a spotlight out, and I saw three,

three in places where, you know, they were hiding. And one of them, Missy had this big lantern that I'd never noticed before. I had a cano in it. And there were two of them behind it. And it was a little depression in the rocks of the chimney. And that's where they were. And the other one was behind the TV where you plug in the TV. There was a little hole there.

And he was down in there. So what I did was I got a fishing ride. and weaved it because it's 16 foot long, you know, jigpole. And I'd like, my idea was to get them to fly. Because I'm like, I ain't going to bed with three bats hanging upside down in my house. I just ain't doing it. And so when I poked that first one, because all I could do was poke them because I couldn't get to them.

That thing came down that rod, biting that rod toward me. I mean, you're talking about get the heck out of there. I mean, it's just, so I was like, so that went on until 5 o'clock in the morning until I didn't see them anywhere. I mean, I'd poke them. They'd fly around. I kept trying the swat. And I've only seen one scent.

I only saw one yesterday flying around. So anyway, today was day three. I had the supposed bat expert come in this morning to assess this situation. But when I- There's someone you can call over in a bat. invasion? I got Missy on it. Billy the Exterminator.

Remember that guy? Billy the Exterminator. Yeah, well, this guy was like that. I mean, he was like, what was that movie the time where the guy was, was Jim Carrey, the pet detective type guy? It was. Ace Ventura. Yeah, he had Ace Ventura type qualities.

Well, maybe some of your listeners, some of our listeners today might give us a book. was on the, I've seen a lot of bats in my day, but I've never seen them inside a house running around. I mean, flying around like that. I ain't either. And look, and the internet mostly was about one bat, not a small colony. And I did notice this. One time, one of the bats, there was a crack that maybe the width of a quarter. And half of the bat, half of him was where I could see him and the other half was.

and it, but it was like, how do you get your body to get that small to get through that crack? So, they're bats too. Let's take, let's take a quick break, Jace. You do realize that bats eat like 12, I think it's 1,200 insects an hour. You never want to kill them. They are, they'll eat like 8,000 mosquitoes every night. No bats were injured in the whole process. So Zach is making the case is they're your friend, not your enemy.

All I know is they look too demonic. They tell me that carry rabies, which is enough for me to stay away from them. I'm going to just tell you out right now. My wife, the way these things look, because one time I was down, one of them, he was just crawling, right on the face of the fireplace, he was just crawling along the rocks. And I'm like, I mean, it was creepy looking. I was like, and my wife saw that. Not only would she not stay here, she would never stay here.

My only encounter with bat since you brought it up, back when I was going to college, Ms. Kay and I are riding along, your mother and a Volkswagen, the window was down on my side and hers, I think. a bat flew inside the Volkswagen and bounced about once and I saw him go down to my left. When I looked down, the bat was right there where you put your hand to open the door. Yeah. The bat was right there. When I looked down at him and me, we're talking about, you know, two and a half feet in a Volkswagen pretty small.

I just looked around. Yeah, there's about six feet inside the Volkswagen. And when the bat saw me, look, he buried his teeth. I mean, he just, I looked at him, and he, and he buried his teeth like a grimace. I saw that multiple times. And my parting words were,

because your mama didn't know what was going on, but my parting words were, every man for himself. And I leave the Volkswagen. She's screaming. She's screaming. I run around. open her door for her, get her out of there.

I picked up a stick of some sort and fleshed the thing out of there, and he went on his way. But, I mean, I did, both of us did leave the vehicle. Yeah, there's something about the way they look. I just didn't realize. They're creepy. They are creepy, but they do eat 8,000 mosquitoes a night. I always wanted to build one of those bat houses, you know,

especially in Louisiana because the mosquitoes are so bad. I mean, they'll come out at night like in a swarm. Yeah. How many confirmed kills did you actually have? Zero. You never killed a bad. It's just when you're in close quarters and, you know, I didn't want to use a weapon that would destroy my house. Because I pretty much destroyed my house anyway with a boat paddle and a tennis racket.

I mean, this, you know, we had too much stuff anyway, is what I told me. I was like, well, now I know that I can get you something for Christmas. because she hasn't been there. She's like, what? I said everything that I have destroyed in this proceeding, which has been a lot of stuff. Do you think they can't do the chimney? I don't.

I actually, now I saw them fly in it, so maybe, yeah. I think they're coming out those cracks where the chimney meets the molding. But now two of these bats were so big that I would think they had to come down the chimney. There were two giants. How big you talking? I would say the size of a dove. Whoa. Yeah.

I've never seen that. They were that big. The first one that flew by my nose was the size of a dove. Are you sure it was a bat? What they call them chimney swifts? I'm 100. I'm 100. I'm 100% sure.

When you see a bird, hanging upside down and like Phil said, showing their teeth, they were bats. That's been confirmed. Our fireplace every year, by the way, they arrive at the same day every year, early summer. It's about time for them. My chimney will fill up with a, I don't know how many, but quite a few chimney sweeps, little birds. I've seen those, but we're not talking about that.

They're a mosquito getter too, so I'm always happy to hear them. hear them fluttering in the fireplace on out the top they just go through yeah go down there and they camp out there they build them a little nest we've had some babies or eggs fall down the uh pet detective you know when he he said well there because he when he was there this morning he said you have a grading on your chimney he's like and he looked in the attic he said they're not in the attic but i had to go that's where we left it but that's why i said but it says this is an old house You know, it's over probably, what, 60 years old? So somewhere there's a crack.

And I think they raised, I think the two big ones were the mail and the family. Here's my theory. Because one of the things I read or I heard someone read during the CIA investigation was that they produced their offspring in mid-May. Well, this is May. Mid-bay. So I'm thinking this couple,

had their litter. I don't know how many is in a litter. I didn't read that. But it would be 13, because you saw two big ones, 15 total, 15 minus the big two ones. I would say 12 to 15. It was hard to get an exact. Well, that's that computer land for the listeners, there's bound to be. There's one, maybe per five million people, but there may be a bat expert that can give you a little expertise on how to get rid of bats in your house.

It's coming because we had a guy a few weeks ago told us how to get rid of moles. I saw that. Somebody sent me an email about how to get rid of the moles. So I guarantee you we'll have an answer. We'll probably have guano recipes. You know, these people, it's always amazing what you get. They're like, here's how you prepare guano. Yeah.

Which is bat dumb. Well, that's what they make mascara out of, fertilizers, all kind of stuff. It's a good thing you didn't kill any because I think it's illegal to kill them. Well, I did notice when they were giving me the information, they were like, well, there's one of them that's protected. It was like somewhere in Indiana. And I was thinking, where are we at in our culture where they're like, because they're like, if you're in your house, I want to say it was Indiana. And you see a bat. You basically, what they were describing, I mean, I'm embellishing because it was extended.

but the idea I got is that you're going to have to move. We're not moving the bat. Yeah, you're moving. Which, you know, we're in the book of Romans. I thought, yeah, when you get your priorities away from God, people, animals, when that's not in that order, chaos ensues and a lot of poor decisions. Yeah. Well, it's a good day to be to have life.

immortality there, Zach, you know? I do agree with that. So I thought you might have some better advice on what to do with the bats. I've got nothing from you. Well, my advice is to build them an alternative space to live out in your yard, and that way you'll preserve the bat that will kill the mosquitoes. I'm all about the circle of life, and I want to get rid of the mosquitoes. Well, look, the problem is when you leave all the doors open for,

hours, days, there's enough. All I'm going to do is attract more bats because the bats became a lesser problem when you leave the doors open in Louisiana and when it's 80 degrees outside at night. Yeah. I mean, if they carry rabies and other things like the coronavirus. And they're in your house. And they're in your house. I would take them out quickly. I got a message for bats. Stay in your lane. Bro. So what do you want to talk about today? Because y'all were no help except Phil inspired me to get rid of the bats in my house. The first chapter in Romans is full of hope.

So why don't we get on something positive there? It's the strange things. How come these strange things always happen to Jace? They always happen to Jace. I don't know what that's about. But he's always got a good story, that's for sure. I prayed for her little girl the other day. I called her mom up because she's really ill.

And they had named her after Jace, whatever that means, Jace. They named. Oh, I prayed for her too. Jaislin. Jaislin. I'd never heard that name. I'd, yeah, she had cancer. Oh, God, removes it from her.

We prayed for her. I was eating coffee. I was eating. She looked about nine or ten, sad. Oh, man. And I was eating crawfish at duck. I think the Almighty is going to deliver. I believe it.

I pray for it. I really do. I was at Duck Commander, eating crawfish with Zach Williams, the singer. There was Jesus. I asked him, I said, where's Dolly? He sang with Dolly Parton, and they all that. And he had third day was there, MacPow and a group called, what was the group, Cain, I think.

Yeah, Cain. they're doing a drive-in tour and so they did they did it in in north monroe so i met we're eating crawfish there and when i got the the alert if we would pray for this girl i just we just stopped everything which was cool i mean here's these great singers and all these people and i said a little message to her via the cell phone while we said we're stopping we're what we're doing and we're praying for you that God will heal you. Well, I tell what I'll do right now, just in a moment. Let's just pray right now.

Father, for Jaislan, Father, we do pray that you deliver her from this illness. You are the great physician and you are the author of life. So we pray that you would deliver this scourge from Jaislin and give her her health back. In the name of Jesus, we're asking this, Father. Amen. Amen. I think it's the most disturbing thing ever is to see a picture of a nine-year-old girl. And then you hear, you know, she's got cancer and it's not looking good.

And so we did that. But I shed tears over it, that's for sure. Yeah, it was good to meet them guys. I've been friends with Mac Powell for years and love that guy. And I really like, you know, everyone that was there. I never met Zach Williams, but I told him, I was like, I love that song. I love the passion in that song.

And so we had a good time. What was a little comical about it is they had never eaten crawfish. So I'm like, boy, they didn't know what they were missing. I'm like, what is wrong with you people? So I was the official, here's how you peel them. Yeah, and you know, they're just not, they're not used to the heat either that, you know,

can we eat our crawfish spicy. and one of the girls from Kane, she was like, my lips are getting numb. I was like, yeah. But you know, I will admit, they joined in, and they seemed to like them other than just the idea of eating it. Yeah. You know, because when you look at a crawfish,

let's take a quick break. When you look at a crawfish, the last thing your mind is telling you is to eat that. It just, you just have to trust me. I was giving them the lesson on how you pay let, and then I was giving them the inspiration of like, I mean, trust me, would I lead you wrong? But they're looking like, but I don't trust you

because you look like a wildebeest. But if you ever run crawfish traps and you see what they eat, that will turn you off. Well, but I'm going to disagree with you on that because a crawfish will only, He prefers fresh meals. And I think that's a positive. It is.

Now, he'll eat anything, but he wants it fresh. And so I respect that. Yeah, we ran crawfish traps in college, and we were putting, I feel, you told me to put in buffalo head. You said, find the buffalo carp, cut their heads off. Any kind of fish. Well, buffalo is a fish, but I think the buffalo head or a carp head is the number one attractive.

Would you agree? We've caught more on fish heads. I mean, have anything else. But now they have made a bait. It's pretty good. It's still bought you and buy one. And kind of like their pellets, you know, big, you know, kind of like a hard little pellet.

Yeah, but you, it's, you catch four to one. Yep. Hey, my second date was, my wife was, was, was, we were, went and get, we got three tubs of buffalo head. So I have a, I have a special place. The Cajahs used little fish, little fish they sing up, you know. I don't even know the name of them, but that's what they bait them with. Well, in the book of Romans, boy, just off the top of my head, here's something interesting.

The gospel is mentioned in verse one. The gospel is mentioned in verse two. The gospel is mentioned in verse four. The gospel is mentioned in verse nine. And the gospel is mentioned in verse 14. And the gospel is mentioned in verse 16. That many times in that shorter space tells you. you. Well, it's actually mentioned in verse 17. That right there tells you enough that the whole

premise of Romans is built around Jesus, his death for the sins of the world, his burial and resurrection. That's the centerpiece of the Bible, and you miss that. You pretty well missed it all. Life and immortality comes out of it. Well, I think the last time we were here is that you weren't, but we talked about, I made this this long speech about verse three where he said regarding his son, where you went to the Old Testament, he's coming, God in human form. And then when you add that with what Phil just said about the gospel, which, you know, we single out, I mean, you could say Jesus, because a lot of people, if you ask what the gospel is, most people that I've I did with, they don't know what that means.

Unfortunately for them, they need to know what that means. Well, right. They think music or something good or somebody named Matthew, Martin, Luke, and John the four Gospels. And so they'll say that. And so, you know, I always say, well, it's Jesus, but it seems to highlight his death, barrel, and resurrection in that context. in that context in most places, you know, specifically.

Would you agree with that assessment? Through and through. Yeah, and I would also add, I think the Book of Romans is, there's this interesting phrase in verse five that's also, it's in the first paragraph of the Book of Romans, and the same phrase is in the last paragraph of the Book of Romans. Let me read it to you. It says, talking about Jesus here,

through whom Jesus we have received grace and apostleship. And here's the reason. This is the whole reason why Paul received grace as an apostle to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for his namesake, among whom you are also called of Christ Jesus. He uses that term, the obedience of faith. He starts the book with that and he ends the book with that. And I think that when you get into the book of Romans, because you get into some pretty complex theology here.

If you don't understand the reason why it was written, things get a little hairy, particularly when you get to Romans 8, 9, 10, 11. The context that Paul is saying here is, like, I'm coming to tell you about the gospel for a specific purpose, and that purpose is I want you to obey God out of faith, which is different than obeying God out of works. I just think that's an interesting phrase.

the obedience of faith. What do you think that means? I have an idea, but what do you think that means? I mean, I think you have an encounter or you have an understanding of who this Jesus is. And it's not just the story or this fact, because in his opening remarks, he said that regarding his son, through the spirit of holiness, this son, Jesus, was declared with power to be the son of God by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ, our Lord. So if your faith, which would be believing that he is that son with that power, is who he says he is, then I think you would obey whatever

he recommended. I mean, I think it's that simple. I think it's a view, a belief, and then there's a behavior and an action that comes after. And the action is love God because of what he's rescued us from the dominion of darkness through the gospel. And he has, by faith, instilled in us a desire to love him and serve him, he is worthy, and to love your neighbor. Start with sharing this with him. There is life and immortality for your taking, if you want it, and all you have to do is believe, believe, and repent. I think, it's like, no, I was telling bats,

and I didn't plan to make this connection, but now that I think about it, the modern world, they came up with Batman because bats are, I guess creepy. And then what is his, what does he do? What's his end game? We came up with a guy

who has supernatural powers, bat related, and what does he do? He fights good and evil. You see what I mean? It's the same principle. They just took a bat and said,

oh, we need supernatural ability for good to triumph. And so God said, I am the supernatural. I became a human. And then he was declared to be the son of God. Why? Because of the power that he showed via the spirit to be resurrected from the dead,

which in every Batman movie, you know, he can't kill him. He has the, because, it's no matter, oh, he'll get injured, but you have to have an indestructible quality about you to be supernatural, which leads us for life changes. If you ever read every epistle, start from the book of Acts, the last thing Paul said, he preached about the kingdom of God and about the Lord Jesus Christ, which tells you where his focus was.

But every one of these epistles, if you start in the first chapter, it's not by accident, that one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. About ten times he mentions the gospel, which means literally good news. To the Thessalonians, he said, we ought to always thank God for you brothers. This is Second Thessalonians too. He said through the sanctifying work of the spirit

and through belief in the truth, he called you to this through our gospel that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is wonderful immortality. So then, brothers, stand firm. And it always mentions that, stand on the gospel, and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word or mouth or by letter.

So it's our job to carry on with the Apostle Paul and others. Just point people to Jesus, who he is, what he's done, what he's now doing, what he will do. Stay right there and camp out there. Love them enough to tell them. Take the heat when it comes. I think it's a good point that you bring up that is good news. Because you think about what Jesus, his death did, which was his death, started a process that destroyed death.

That's it. Yeah, there's a, hey, let's take a quick break. There's a paradox in this. I mean, even when we talk about power, I mean, think about the gospel, this. the power of God, but a good chunk of the gospel is that this all-existing, ever-existing eternal being condescends and becomes human and allows the humans, his creation, to get their hands on him, and he ultimately was murdered and killed. I mean, that's kind of a flip on the head of power, because when we think of power, we're always thinking about conquering,

which Christ obviously did that. But part of the gospel is, part of the power is, is that his love, love is creation enough to do that, you know? Yeah, that's why I brought up the deal about Batman, because it's, you're not thinking Jesus is powerful. Most people, when they, when I make it known to the world, like if I meet somebody and I say something about Jesus, because we're almost too, I'm not ashamed of the gospel, which is that Jesus is the son of God and that he lived a holy life.

These are all things that he's referring to in Romans 1, and that he died for the sins of the world out of love and that because of the Holy Spirit came back from the dead. They view that, me being unashamed as a weak. They think that's weak. And once you start to rally up the text, and when he said regarding his son, Well, his son, he shared in there, that's the human race, shared in the humanity so that by his death, you know, how are you going to kill God unless he becomes a human and you get your hands on him?

You're not going to touch him, the invisible immortal God that created the cosmos. You can't touch something like that unless he shares in your humanity so he can die. so that he can, by his death, he might destroy him who holds the power of death, that is, the devil, and free those by grace who all their lives and their great fear were held in slavery by their fear of death. His death fixed it so we wouldn't fear death because he beat it, and it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him, and it's impossible for death to keep its hold on him, and it's impossible for death to keep its hold on us.

So just that enough, when I heard that, I was 28 years old, and I stopped in my tracks on that point right there. I stopped in my tracks right there, and I said, wait a minute here. How in the world did I have miss that? We're talking immortality here. I had turned to Hebrews 2, 14, and had my finger on the, I was fixing to read that.

You were trained well, my son. Yeah, but Phil, you're right. That passage is the last. logical conclusion. I'm telling you. Because it says since the children have flesh and blood, well, he became a human so that by his death, he might destroy him who holds the power of death.

That is the evil one. So you think about it, that's how we view, going back to my Batman reference, power in our world is like, well, he can whip everybody. in hand-to-hand comment. He holds the power of death in his hands because he can kill you because he's more powerful. And that's the way people with evil intent view power. You know, we're going to fly a bunch of plane.

You know, we're going to kill people and even ourselves to show you that we're right. And the evil one, he's done it from the beginning. Where's that passage? He says he was a murderer from the beginning. Well, he's going to mention that when he get over about Romans 5. When old Adam, when he sinned, I mean, he brought to us sin and death, which Jesus conquered both of them. But with Adam, all die with Jesus, all are made alive.

He took away the murderer. Yeah, there is this idea of power, though, is interesting to me as you're kind of talking about it, because, I mean, God really does come to flip it on its head, and you look at the way humans approach the concept of power. What do we do? Well, we try to consume it and consolidate it and get it. We want to get it all for ourselves, but what's being displayed in the gospel is through God is quite the opposite. God's like, look, I'm all powerful. I can do whatever I want.

I don't need any of you, but I'm going to empty myself. I'm going to take on the nature of a servant. I mean, being found in appearance as a man, Philippian says that Christ humbled himself and became obedient to death. To me, that's the scandal, because it is kind of ridiculous to think about a God that, it's ridiculous to us to think about a God that powerful that would do that. It really, it's got to be divine because a human would never come up with that kind of power structure. I mean, God basically said that you can't kill and take control empire-wise. I'm taking that away because we're coming back.

I mean, to me, that would be the ultimate movie is you have all these empires that have ruled the world. Because you think about from a Roman perspective, this is the place where we had the arena, what was it called?

I had a brain cramp. You know, the famous, the Coliseum. Yeah. Or, you know, we've been there. Yeah. And they're like, this is true power and they've they you know who's the biggest who's the baddest and Jesus is doing the exact opposite becoming meek and dying and then being raised to show you that he is

the destructor of death itself it's the wildest thing I've ever read in my life I mean you're like what but since you do it meekly and you turn the other cheek you're like well how can you be the most powerful thing in the world if you turn the other cheek and you know what the kicker is, Zach, it's free. It's free. Well, I mean, it cost him to go through his life. Yeah, it's free to us. I mean, it cost him 30 years of, you know, I guess just identifying as a human and then three more years of a process that he's dying on purpose. But he came back. So it's like, I'll go through that. And In the end, I win. It's so appealing to me.

Yeah, let's take one more break. Yeah, this is, that's why we're cut to the heart, Zach, you know, and we're like, I'm in on this. Well, it's offensive. It's offensive to us in a lot of ways that cuts us on both ways. One, because it tells you, especially the book of Romans, but you get into chapter three, we're going to see it a few weeks. I mean, you don't bring anything to the table.

But I love, I think we got to set up Romans here, though, that you think about the backdrop, the historical backdrop is that this is a time period where, I mean, this new religion, if you want to call it that, came out of Judaism. And what Paul's doing is the reason why it's good news for us, because we're not Jewish. None of us are Jewish here. It's good news for us because he's announcing here that Christ is opening up salvation to everybody, the Gentiles. He's calling all the non-Jewish people into this glorious relationship.

but to be able to dwell in the presence of the Lord. And to me, especially for a time is now where we are so culturally divided, this letter written to the Roman Church is so powerful because it puts everybody on the same playing field. Number one, it's going to put us on the same playing field because everybody's sinful, everybody's falling short of God's glory. And two, everyone has the opportunity, at least, to be justified freely by his grace if we would so choose to put our faith in him and confess him as Lord. So this book really is a great equalizer, you know?

If our world right now, Zach, could just grasp the fact. And we're going to read about it when we get into Romans chapter 2. God does not show favoritism. This is for everybody. Every living person on planet Earth. It's for every one of them. Yeah, that's Romans 2.11. I was thinking of the same bird.

We're on the same page today. God does not show favoritism. And you think of all the conflict, which we go back to yielding power and even like all the countries that have CIAs and their roles of trying to keep the peace. You know, how are they doing it?

Well, they're killing bad guys. Yep. Jace, by the way, look at the trouble guys that the apostles and the believers, because we just got through with the book of act. look at the carnage and the death and the persecutions that took place in the book of Acts.

They said, it was just a slaughterhouse. In order to show the human race, God does not show favoritism. Just look at the Jew and Gentile clash there was going on through the apostles, but the gospel was still preached, and to this day, it's come all the way down through the ages for the last, 2,000 years. It made it all the way to hear, Zach. What you think? Well, I think you're right and we are out of time. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else,

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