Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 285 | Phil's Amish Tendencies, Willie's Secret Room, and Places Humans Aren't Allowed to Go

Episode Date: May 30, 2021

Jase remembers the time he broke into the secret sponsor room at Duck Commander to do a little "shopping." Jase's truck gets "uplifted" and "baptized," and Al recalls the time he asked the right quest...ion when Lisa wrecked his truck. Jase meets a woman at an event who's appalled by his clothes. Phil is thrilled by what you can get away with at 75. Jase is irked that there are places on this planet that people aren't allowed to go. Al realizes Phil has Amish tendencies. And the guys respond to a great question about what happened to people who died without having the opportunity to hear about Jesus.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Doing about 5560s. He said he just slowed down. She just, well, it went under his truck. She backed out, she backed off his vehicle, gunned it to the U-turn and took off. Seriously? Yeah. This is Cade from our crew. Yeah. And it was a new truck? Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's a prouaded thing, you know, he had it all jacked up there, but that wound all that up. Well, vent the frame. Poor Cade. I mean, because he's been driving this
Starting point is 00:00:35 a piece of crap car for his whole life. He kept finally, you know, works hard enough, saves up some money and gets him a nice big truck. That's what he was saying. He said, I tell you. No, I was. McCallet told me that. He said, never fall in love with a hunk of metal.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Yeah. Oh, that's a good saying. It's a good saying. He said, never falling in love with the hunk of metal because something's going to happen to it. Having said that, Kellett had the worst vehicle. Let me think about this.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, yeah. It was the worst I've ever seen. He had a little old orange dotson. And I, it was before they put Nissan, it was a Dotson. For some reason, I got in his vehicle one time.
Starting point is 00:01:16 You're talking about in a bind. Because he, I needed a ride. And he said, I'll give you a ride. I got in that thing. It was a little two-seater. So he,
Starting point is 00:01:26 he lives that. Never put your home home home home. Well, you're right. I don't even think about it. that he made that easy to do because he just drove things you would never love. Yeah. How could you love that?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I got in the thing, Calh, that old orange, when he's talking about it. And look, it just wanted to, it wants to take a hard left the whole time you're driving it. Yeah. I mean, I've had many vehicles. I had to fight it back. The whole time you're driving it, you got a hard turn just to keep from running right off into the ditch on the left side. It was not. Well, this conversation started because I got my truck uplifted, which we,
Starting point is 00:02:01 got my attention. Well, if something's uplifting. Is your truck rejoicing? It's now an uplifted truck? They call them lift kits. Yeah. Well, this cut, I was, look, I was walking through Duck Commander. I was actually getting some dog food.
Starting point is 00:02:20 They got some kind of dog food sponsor. And, you know, I go back into the Holy of Holies. You slip back in there where they got a hiding on the merchant. I heard y'all got some dog food back here. There's a room, Dad, somewhere at Duck Commander. I don't know. Is there most of you just have to do a secret handshake to find it? I actually broke into that thing in the early days when we were filming that Benelli presents Doug Commoder.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I remember we had this producer. We Phil called him the Marine. And he said, he said, what you, what's, because they would interview us and they would build the show based on whatever happened. that interview as far as what was going on. I mean, it was as real as it could be. And he said, what's going on in your life right now? I said, well, it's coming to my attention that there is a room that's now been deemed the Holy of Holies where all these sponsors send stuff for us to use.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And key word being us. I said, but Willie has got this thing locked back here. And you cannot gain access. you're out and he's like well what are you thinking i was like i want to break in that thing so i broke in it i mean we legitimately broke we they filmed it and made a little tv show out of it but trust me i was shopping and the first few things i found had my name on it i'm like who confiscated something with my name no you know what he was going to do he was going to hold those back for Christmas presents and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's going to be like Jay's like it had something specially made for you. The only time I hear from them is they'll call and they'll say could you work at India's schedule to give us five lines, no more than
Starting point is 00:04:18 five lines on what you think about Benelli shotguns. That was the one the last about three or four weeks ago. That was the request. Well, you have some good history of some good lines for Benelli. I have to say.
Starting point is 00:04:31 We went from the boom, boom, boom, boom is the one that they said, so what do you think? I said, well, the best kind of shotgun there is is one that will go boom, boom, boom, every time without hanging up. And they had written the whole commercial. Yeah, the Marine looked at it. He said, good night. That's it. So yesterday, look, I go to Duck Commander.
Starting point is 00:04:50 First of all, I walked through there because when I pulled up, they said a pitcher. So they're going to uplift my truck. So I bought a vanilla Ford truck, like three down from like the top of the line. I don't even know what it's called. Everybody knows these model numbers. I'm not looking at whatever I have. It's just an F150. Well, it's F150, but it's like a...
Starting point is 00:05:13 You got something. Yeah, mine's like a King Ranch. Yeah, mine's like two down from that. Yeah. And I and I are driving the top top. So I drive by and I hear Sai in there just railing them. I was like, Sa is back working here again? Well, they were doing their podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You should just bust it in the... I thought about it, but then I thought, oh, no, they'll turn this into a 45-minute episode. And so I go out there, and they're like, we're going to pull your truck up for you, and all the people who worked on it. I think they're called Rock Uplifters or something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:48 They're from South Carolina. So they met you at that, doesn't matter. Yeah, they, well, one of the Buck Commander people, they worked with Buck Commander. Yeah. And they got in my truck and drove it to South Carolina and left me a rental. Yeah. I've been driving a rental for a week. Well, I went out there and I was like, my first line, I think, was it's like this truck has been baptized.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Which explains the uplift. It was a new, yeah, I was keeping that theme. And, of course, Grant was there who I really liked Grant. He worked for Buckingewan. And he was like, hey, if you don't like it, you know. know, I'll make you an offer. And I said, I'll just, I'll let you ride with me. And then I said, because they're looking for, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:36 they set a picture, but there were cameras and there. I was like, who are all these people? Because they wanted to get that. Is your aim, like functional in the mud, better in the mud, or is the goal is basically just the look of it? Not the look, which it looks like what you would say, a mad spider. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Which I said, I want the shortest lift kit, but they said, oh, we just couldn't. We just had to raise it all right. They just couldn't. I thought, you know, it's kind of a spiritual thing. They're like, you're going to. I always found that was more difficult to get in one of them like that because it's up. You've got to climb in. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Check this out. So the first thing. Is it out there in the parking lot? Oh, yeah. The first thing I do. Well, I'm proud for you, Jason. Phil, is I open the door. And when I open the door, I heard me.
Starting point is 00:07:27 and these running boards come out on the side that you can step up on. Well, I closed the door and they went, they went up under the truck. Can't even see them. They're not invisible. When Jason and Willie were sitting there 35, 40 years ago, I said, one day, boys, you'll be driving around on one of you jacked up rigs around town. You see up there, that's what y'all will be driving. And they said, dayd life.
Starting point is 00:07:55 They said, they're never going to. That ain't going to happen. Well, I said, it will happen. This whole long. Phil, they traded me a pitcher for this. So it's kind of hard to be that guy and say, no, I'm good. But the bumper's on this thing. I mean, this old boy, I like this boy.
Starting point is 00:08:16 He's like, have you hit a deer now? Won't leave a scratch. That's redneck language right there. So if I hit a deer with this bumper, it's not going to leave a scratch. it's not going to leave a scratch that's a Jimmy Red type thinking there I said on the deer or the bumper he said oh no
Starting point is 00:08:34 it'll kill the deer okay so then they had this I've never seen this like if you want to pull a trailer the the what am I the trailer hitch it like folds under
Starting point is 00:08:50 your truck you pull two pins pull it out pull another pin and you rotate it to which measurement Oh yeah, because I said, well, now that there is a shin. That's what I'm saying. Because how many times if you hit your shin on this. This guy who works on truck, he lifted his pants leg up and there were three scars right here on his shin. Three hits.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I said, so you invented that? He's like, no, but I appreciate it greatly. I had a winch on it. They got these window covers that if it, I was like, what's this for? He said, what if it's raining, you can roll the window down. Oh, yeah. I said, the drive-through.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Isn't that something? Of course, they had a bed cover, bed liner, leather seats, because I just had the most basic vehicle, no.
Starting point is 00:09:39 So these old boys, they were, so the companies that did this, did this. That's what they did. Well, Jayce is probably on
Starting point is 00:09:47 their website this morning, you know. Probably, I mean, I did all kinds of videos. Well, what they do is they had an idea. But,
Starting point is 00:09:54 hey, it's a good deal for you. Yeah. I mean, you know. Look, I don't even know these people. I was walking through Duck Commander getting some dog food. And Grant said, hey, are you going to buy a new truck?
Starting point is 00:10:02 I was going to tell him that story. I said, yeah, I'll buy it. I mean, because I was just playing along. I really wasn't thinking about what. He said, well, if you'll just buy the most basic truck, he said, and you need to buy a Ford. I was like, why a Ford? He's like, well, they've already taken pictures with the other models. I was like, who is they?
Starting point is 00:10:22 So then he's like, well, what they did is they took a, you know, a truck for Jason Aldine and I think Luke Brian. He's like, they were looking for somebody to buy a four. I prefer, I prefer for it anyway. One is I think they're a better ride, but two is they didn't, they were the only ones that didn't take the bailout back in 08. I mean, that marked, in my mind, I was like, you know, Ford, they're an old company.
Starting point is 00:10:46 You know, they didn't want to get hooked in with the government. I like them. We've driven Chevroletes. I mean, I'm not anti-Bet. You know, but I really like it now. But you're right. Don't put all your hopes and dreams. a hunk of metal there's one mishap you're one mishap away from just having i remember the first time i got
Starting point is 00:11:03 a new one you know one of these nice trucks because i'm always just like everybody else you drove whatever you could afford and i remember i mean i was so proud of it it me it drove so good and i was like you know like baby in it and i had it maybe maybe three months months and so lisa dropped me off i was having lunch with somebody and went to run a couple of errands and she text me and says, I wrecked your truck. And of course, I thought it was a joke because she knew how much I loved this truck. I jokingly told people that, you know, now they're changing marriage. I said, if anything ever happens to Lisa, I'm marrying this truck. You know, I'm just, I'm good with that. So that's how I felt about it. And so that's why I learned the lesson. And so I'm with
Starting point is 00:11:46 some guys from the church. I might have even been there. So I texted, I said, are you okay? which was the smart first question, but I really wanted to say, how bad is it? Yeah, I'm fine. I just, I hit a fire hydrant. And I said,
Starting point is 00:11:59 how bad? And then my next question, how bad is it? And she said, I'm on my way. And I thought, oh, crap.
Starting point is 00:12:04 You know, she's, she's tore up my truck. So she pulls up, and it just looked like somebody just smashed the truck right in the grill. It was just the whole front grill.
Starting point is 00:12:13 You needed a Jason bumper. Exactly. But I was like, so. That was my favorite thing on the truck. I said, You hit a fire hydrant. The fire engine was there when you pulled in.
Starting point is 00:12:26 They didn't put it in. How do you hit a stationary thing that was- K's logic is why would somebody put a three-and-a-half-foot pole in the middle of the Walmart parking lot? What's it doing that? I didn't know what that was there. And I said, what did you do when you hit it? She said, I gunned it.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I gunned it, but it wouldn't move. I'm like. I told Lisa, I was like, you knew. I said, you were jealous because how much? much I loved that truck. And so the first thing you did was just go down there and smash her right in the mouth. No, I think that's the typical Robert. Yeah, they fixed it.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Robertson response. Assess Blaine. Oh, I was on it. But I was smart enough. I've grown enough to where I did inquire about her well-being before I started in on the, why did you do this too much? All I try to get out of a vehicle, like a truck like that, is about five or six years, trouble free.
Starting point is 00:13:20 and it usually give you about five or six years I don't drive over 30 miles an hour 20 I'm coming over here no I've been behind you I don't know drive out I go over there in the woods and come back but you say but it's never gunned but you know and you have to have a four-wheel drive around here that's my point I mean I have this I understand you have to have a wince if it's not you with somebody oh I have a winch by the way yeah your neighbor they're sitting there and what happened well Because we get stuck. I mean, things happen. You just have to do it. Well, and that's one of the things that... If I happen to drive by and you're in the ditch and your vehicle, there's no problem.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Just calm down. You know, women hollering, yeah, I tore up my husband. I said, let me get a chain on it. I'll get you out there. And I just drag them out. I do it all the time. Well, especially living out here. Let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So I do want to mention your book, Dad. This is your daily feel because June 1st is when it releases. It's exclusively and Walman. So this is basically a devotional 100 days of truth and freedom to heal America's soul. And it's some stuff from excerpts from your book. And then we've added in some devotional thoughts. So look for it at Walmart. It's from Blaze TV.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I do about 12 or 15 minute blurbs. And whatever the topic is, different topics every day. Well, I just looked up one day and I had already, I've done about six to about seven. 700 of those. 700 episodes. Somebody in their wisdom, not mine, decided, but why don't we just get the material he's covered, put it in book form like a devotional?
Starting point is 00:15:03 I read through it. I said, that would be worth reading. Yeah, it's really interesting because in the woods has sort of evolved. Atheists would not care so much for it, but maybe they could, you atheists guys could just read about, you know, basically what the Bible says, how they live your life. I like your optimism.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah. You just know that people who do not believe in God say, yeah, I'm going to listen to this podcast, unashamed. They might. You know, we, that did, Carolla. Corolla's an atheist and he seems to like talking to you. Well, if you love everybody. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Well, look. Rolla is an honest, at least an honest atheist. Yeah. He's an honest humanist. Yeah. But he said, I was raised at way. him a family. He said, so. And he said, I wish, I wish I could be like y'all. Yeah, he rightly said, I think what a lot of people think, he said, I'm just not sure I'm cut out to be a believer. And I thought
Starting point is 00:16:04 it was an interesting take because he just can't imagine, you know, having that part of his life. He said, I don't think it's in me. Isn't he a comedian? Yeah. When he said, I wish I could be like y'all, that might have been a joke. It could have be. Might have been. I think he was. I mean, I, I mean, I, I, I, I mean, I, I, I mean, mentioned when he said that I said it's called hope Corona yeah hey look I was at that the last event I was at and a woman was in line and she said is this means this is what you normally wear and I laugh because I assumed that was a joke because I'm like why is she in a VIP line to see me but she just was a big donor to what what
Starting point is 00:16:49 they were because it was a you know it was a dinner it was swanky a bit and i said and you were wearing kind of what you're wearing here said well i washed it i got it out of the dryer this morning and so she she wasn't laughing and so then i thought maybe she's serious so i said well the bible says that god does not look at what man looks at the outward appearance he looks at the heart so i thought she'd say oh that's awesome nothing crickets I think you don't want a picture. She's like, no. You know what you call that, Jay's?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Not a fan. Not a fan. But it was the attire that we couldn't get past. I'm sure you're a nice guy and all that. You're going to speak. People seem to be excited about you. She did everything, but say what the old guy said about me. I strongly dislike you.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But I mean, to her credit, at least she did it to your. I kind of appreciate. No reason why I just strongly dislike you. I did appreciate the boldness. It doesn't offend me if somebody just, she just didn't like the chemo look. Yep. At a swanky deal. At the event.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I don't care who you are. This is not the look you should be. It took me a while to get into the world like y'all are, but I've done it too. I'm just like, whatever they say the dress is, I'm going to wear what I always wear it to speak. And I'm not going to worry about it. I call it just playing the celebrity factor. It's just like you're invited to speak, you're who you are.
Starting point is 00:18:27 That's what we're going to do. Well, you know what's weird is yesterday when they showed up from my trunk with all the cameras. Well, yesterday you noticed I had blue jeans on, which is the first time I've had a pair of blue jeans on. And I would say a year. And you said, why did you do that? Because all my camo, which I don't have many clothes, my wardrobe is limited. They were all dirty. And I don't mean like dirty.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I mean dirty. actual dirt and mud. I've been, I was digging around. You can wash mine, but they'll still be stained. We've noticed. Most people, when you get to that level of the shirt, I turn that into a dish rag. The greatest thing. Those are wiping rags.
Starting point is 00:19:07 The greatest thing that can happen to you, I know y'all are not used to this kind of talk. But when you get to be older, when you get to be 75, as far as attire you can get away with a whole lot because they just they pawn you off he said just some old coot is out there running his mouth so they so they so they see they just they don't care well what i was i'm wearing my best when i appear in public but my best is is is is is was giveaways from companies that said wear our britches and we'll will support your program whatever but i didn't finish my story so they look at me and say well where's your camouflage because they didn't have any camouflage on because they I didn't know they were going to film oh yeah I said it's dirty so I thought
Starting point is 00:19:56 you know in less than a week I had somebody highly offended that were camouflage to a dinner there you go and now these people are upset because you're not wearing I don't have a camouflage on and we want to take some pictures where's the camera what's the old saying just beauty is in the eye of the beholder so no look at the heart clothes make a man clothes make a man I don't know as good as your clothes are that's what they're saying. Yeah, I don't agree with it. Well, I don't either. But I mean, just saying, Jay's, that you've got to be in the zone.
Starting point is 00:20:27 So you're outside the zone. I think as long as you have them on. Yeah, as long as you're wearing them, that's a good thing. You're embraced down here on the river and everything because weirdness is a good quality to have around here. If you're weird, you fit right on in here. There's plenty of that around here. So I thought of a story, I got to tell the story before we get back into Romans. of, we were telling Kellett stories and vehicles.
Starting point is 00:20:51 After that truck, Jay's, he upgraded, he said, and he bought a car. This is in the 80s. And it was a diesel car, which you don't see many, you know, I see a lot of diesel trucks. You don't see a lot of diesel cars. But back in the, when fuel got real high back in the 70s, people tried to diesel was cheaper. So this old car, it was old. I already had a ton of miles on, but he's on, that's a diesel, it'll run forever. But it was constantly breaking down.
Starting point is 00:21:17 so Mike and I are working together so I'm taking he's I'm getting there I'm picking him up at least once a week from his mechanic shop at this guy that's working on his day so Kelly this car I mean your wife's gonna get stuck somewhere I mean you gotta get rid
Starting point is 00:21:33 of this car oh boy's idiot so he kept taking so he comes out to we're working at summer camp we're gonna be there six weeks he pulls up the first day we get there the staff's all coming in we're getting ready to orientation he goes out there and he gets in his car to crank it, it won't crank.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So I'm just like, this car. He said, well, boys, we'll just leave right here. I'm going to get him to come out here and do it. Well, that car is set there for six weeks in front of the director's cat. Six weeks of camp, that car never moved. So Kellett is borrowing everybody's car every day. Every time he's got to go do something, he's borrowing my truck. He's borrowing Hawks car.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So at the end of the, he just leaves it out there. The whole camp session. At the end of the camp session, last day we're there, his mechanic comes out there. and he raises up the hood, you know, he closes it, gets in the car. He's in there 10 seconds, boom, and just cranks right up. And we're all, we're all standing around. It's a miracle. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:30 We're just like, what? It's been sitting there six weeks and this guy, and he gets out of the car and he says, Mike, he might want to put that thing in part before he started up. Oh, my God. It's sat there for six weeks. He bought all these cars. didn't have it all the way in park i think he just run a little old cash decided to come on y'all's dollar i think you may be right because that sucker is tight that's exactly what that's one of my
Starting point is 00:22:57 favorite stories ever me and him you know we was at a fancy restaurant for some meeting or something and i i paid for the man he's like i'll get the next one and he actually we went to a sonic one day and he said yeah remember that time and he bought two brown bags and i'm I thought, are you seriously trading that for this? That's funny. There's a Seinfeld episode about that where the guy, the guys. You think I'm kidding, but I'm not. You know how he is.
Starting point is 00:23:30 He was legitimately, you got the last one for, you know, a couple hundred bucks. I'm getting this one for five. He kept his word. He kept his word. You got your meal. That's pretty funny. Let's take another break. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:46 So I guess we're going to move into Romans 5 today. we um last time we kind of got through romeas four with abraham was there anything else you wanted that you thought about days i'd like to put one in there go ahead because i i quote this verse with every human being i studied with when he's talking about the difference between the law the law works and faith when a man works his wages are not credited this is four for a man is it's not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation when you work for something. However, to the man who does not work, but trust God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.
Starting point is 00:24:37 David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works. They're saying, you can't earn this. It's already been done for you because of Jesus, being the blessedness of the man, being the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world. And I always give everybody this verse because it has far-reaching ramifications if misunderstood. Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. We have forgiven.
Starting point is 00:25:11 We have covered. And then it says, blessed is the man or woman whose sin the Lord will never count against him. I said, never underestimate what he just said there, who will never count his sins against him. I said, that's the position you need to be in as you walk on planet Earth. It covers, it covers a lot of downsides or gotten rid of his shame and guilt and all of that, Al. It's done away with right there in that statement. And that's why I always stress it to people. And most people say, never count. I said, they said, well, I've lived such a life. I said, I understand. The girl the other day, one of the girls will be baptized. They called me back in a back room, her and her husband. She said,
Starting point is 00:25:59 I don't know. I'm fixing to do this. Put my faith in Jesus. She said, and I want to be born again. She said, but you just don't realize, Mr. Robertson, how many sins that we've been guilty of? I said, let me explain something. You could have a mountain of sins. They're all fixed to be removed in about 15 minutes never to be held against you again i said don't forget that of course they just busted out baller when i told them they were so thankful but all their life they just never had any peace of mind because they kept thinking they weren't good enough to be saved because they had so many sin right so we see it all the time but that was pretty moving well and then to your point dad that these words were spoken originally by david yeah and so on 32 and so what's
Starting point is 00:26:48 What's interesting is he said that he was under law. He was the king of the Jews under law. And he had his own problems. He had a lot of problems. But it shows you that what Paul is saying here, he's been saying consistently throughout history and the Jews missed it, most of them, that the law won't save you. The keeping of the law won't save you. You have to understand.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It's always about the heart. There's a reason why God said this is a man after my own heart. It's because he understood that. And even when he blew it, because he basically checked out for about three years, you know, and did terrible things that had long-stand-dictous murder. Murder. And then it affected his family. His family went into chaos from that point forward.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And it's because he was a hypocrite. And even though he repented and got right with God at the same time, the consequences of what he did had long lingering effects, which are any of us. So, I mean, I think that's kind of the whole point. which somebody had asked a question while we're there, had sent this to me about, let me get the exact question because it was really good. A student asked me this question, what happened to people who never got the opportunity to hear about Jesus, meaning people before or other people, but it's always been the case that the heart of faith seeks God in any culture and any time throughout history.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And so that's the whole point. And then Abraham was not a Jew. He predated Judaism. Well, then you have to tie in the fact that we're in Acts 17, God determined the exact times and the exact places where we should live. Right. God did this so we would seek him, reach out for him and find him. And the whole purpose for us being here to represent Jesus, I mean, here on the earth.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah. we don't think God's not working that out these divine arrangements my thought on the Romans 5 you know when he says therefore I mean based on this being about God's righteousness and not our own and it being about faith in Jesus rather than law keeping he says since we have been justified through faith we have peace which is what Phil was referring to with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom that this phrase is the one that sticks out to me, have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. Which y'all was telling earlier about breaking into the holy of holies
Starting point is 00:29:32 and getting this stuff. That's what we do with the more valuable things that we have. I mean, I'll like my truck for I came in here because I just got it. Like, you know, because we, you know, we don't want people with sinister intentions. We don't want them to have access. You just think of what we do. I mean, in all of the way, we think we're out here in the middle of nowhere. We wouldn't have any problems like that.
Starting point is 00:29:57 One thing need to remember. Not so much. Well, the top 10 things I find under the ground metal detecting is locks. Yeah. Pre-Jesus, we all need to remember, pre-Jesus, according to the, the United Nations of all groups. They studied populations all the way back to where they found the first civilization. It pretty well, you know, you had a purging with the flood.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You know, that slowed down population immensely. Well, the thing just... Went down to eight. Yeah, yeah. It's basically a reboot. I'm taking it lightly. I'm saying, boy, but look, the population, all the people... experts, they're not the Christian people, the people who've studied it. It flatlined all the way
Starting point is 00:30:47 to Jesus and post-Jesus. It started climbing after about a thousand AD. It started climbing, and when it hit about 1,600, 1700s, it took off like a rocket. And we end up looking around now, by 2021, you're looking at it. You're saying, man. Seven billion. Oh, it just went ballistic. So with that in mind, the Apostle Paul to the Galatians is saying the same thing that he said to the Romans, but it answers what Jase has said. When the time had fully come. Yeah. Now, God looked down, the population is flatlined.
Starting point is 00:31:30 There's not but 100 million people on planet Earth, according to the United Nations, when Jesus was on the earth. That's not all that many. Right. Well, when the time had fully come, whatever that means in God's sight, God sent his son, born of a woman, born under law, when Jesus showed up, to redeem those under the law. You're like, when he came forth from Mary, the law of Moses was marching on. But he did it to redeem.
Starting point is 00:32:08 those under the law was the purpose of him coming when the time had fully come that we might receive the full rights of sons because your sons God sent the spirit of his son into our hearts the spirit who calls out aba father so you're no longer a slave by disobeying the law and being condemned for it but a son and since you're a son God has made you an heir but that's how he got you off under a law of works that no one has ever kept but the one who died to redeem those who believe in him. So that's the whole story. No matter all these epistles, they all cover that at some point. Right. I just don't think we should underestimate. Grace is a wonderful thing. Hang on, Jason, let's take a break. The idea that
Starting point is 00:32:58 we've gained access to this. You know, when I was reading this before we did this, I just was curious. So I did a Google search, which is, I get the information. That would be like you going and reading encyclopedias on places that you you don't have access to. I was shocked at some of the stuff that came up. I mean, you could sit there for hours. But some of them were more disturbing. You know, there was an island in Brazil that you can't, you're not allowed to go anyone because they say during some sea surge that the,
Starting point is 00:33:41 whole island is filled with venomous snakes, thousands and thousands and thousands. So I thought, this is weird. I've never heard about it. But it was on several top tens, this island in Brazil. So I thought, well, that is awesome that here we have a situation where they don't want people to die. Oh, no, I got to read. That's not the reason you can't go there.
Starting point is 00:34:09 They don't want you to hurt the snake. They're protecting the snakes. Oh, my head just, I thought, here we go. But most of the things were stuff like that. There was some artwork in Norway and some caves, and no one's allowed. And I thought, okay, you have some of the greatest art ever,
Starting point is 00:34:34 but no one can see it. What is wrong with these people? There's another island right off of India. I don't know whether you're talking about the same. There was another one in India. In India, and there's an indigenous people there. That's it. That's five or six hundred.
Starting point is 00:34:51 They can't allow humans to come in there because they're not immune to the, because these people are like they live thousands years ago. But there's about five or six hundred of them. They interbreed, smaller type of people. I saw them. But Phil, you know why that group? No, that's not the same as the snakes in Brazil. But that group, the biggest reason they won't let people go in there
Starting point is 00:35:13 is because they think these people will kill them. They probably would. Because they're like... Well, this is like an episode of Star Trek. So this is the prime directive. Well, Area 51 was in the top five on most of the list. Yeah. So that's there too.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. But, I mean, to your point, so what are we from the Area 51 deal? oh, we have some kind of secrets about extraterrestrial beings that we are not allowed to know. Just think how stupid that is, Al. Why wouldn't you just tell us? We should know. But think about it. If you really had it, why wouldn't you tell us?
Starting point is 00:35:54 That's right. We're humans. But think about it. Instead of trying to save their life, Jesus showed up and the world was in that shape because of their sin. And he came to redeem the world from their sins. you just, he's way up above all these man-made things about we can't go over here. Well, that's what I'm saying. The greatest thing.
Starting point is 00:36:15 We don't want to hurt the snakes. We don't want to hurt the bring disease to these people because they'll kill them. But Jesus said, I'm going to set them all free. I shared that, the story of my search for this reason, because one of the top ten things that showed up a lot was the information sector and the, the materials in the, at the Vatican. And it's like only special scholars, very limited amount, are allowed to go in there. And I thought, isn't that the exact opposite of what this is saying? We have the greatest information and the greatest person. Available to everyone. Available.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And he's like, I'm just doing this for free. here, have access to grace, which is complete forgiveness and redemption at my blood being filled. And you receive immortality out of it. And you can have peace. You can lay your head on a pillow and say, my sins are forgiven. I'm going to live forever. Here. And you have access to the father.
Starting point is 00:37:23 You can ask, you know, that verse that says, you can ask whatever in my name. That doesn't mean he's going to instantly say, sure, Bob. by the way, I watched Chosen last night, the first six episodes. I haven't seen it. What did you think? Thank you, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:37:39 That only took a year. Finally got around to see it. It was very insightful. Because when you're reading something about something, that's one thing. And you're like, whoa. But when you see the events that are being written about, it has far and much much more power to it it does it does and which is to your point
Starting point is 00:38:05 these ordinary men and it's well and it's well done you know as you know Peter and all of you know just old what what do you say rednecks you know rascals types type but it's well done wherein i believe in the past when this was attempted it turned into something that was didn't seem real or credible which look when you have Hollywood producing and something, you get a different feel than when there's a guy who's doing it right from the technical side, but he's also, you can tell, he's read his Bible.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I love the first thing that comes up for you watch it is they said, we encourage you to read along. Yeah, yeah. And which was a profile. I found out, I didn't realize, let's take another break. I didn't realize until I met, or I haven't met him yet, but my phone met the guy that created it, that they have a study guide that goes with it.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And so mom tells me that for the last like three weeks, in fact, I think today is when their group meets. So they watch an episode, and then these folks that put this together have a study guide and the discussion around it, which is fully aware. Which is really good.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I didn't know that either. So we can talk about that. I was impressed. When he comes. Yeah, next week he's going to be on the podcast. Well, it'll be a, I don't know how many podcasts from now. It'll still be there. I'll let you figure out the map.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah, but we want to get inside the guy's head and see, you know, where he comes, which is probably the Holy Spirit. But, you know, you talked about, so it struck me all the time with this island of these people. Yeah, in India? Yeah. I have an aisle. We went through about five. I have a hundred places that are. But think about how arrogant that is for whoever made the decision, whoever that was, that these people don't deserve the right to know.
Starting point is 00:40:00 what's going on on the planet this is like well that they say though they were saying it's a safety issue to the outsiders because they're and they don't want to hold them responsible for if they kill you because these people are cut off from the world yeah and they're they're like the oldest people is what they're saying on the earth which is kind of it's making a lot of assumptions well that's what i mean yeah if you wandered in okay you didn't know they were there you pulled up on a boat that killed you. But they need to know like they could be wiped out in two seconds. I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:40:35 big. It's way more than, it's like you got this little microcosma people. You know, it was thinking about like the Amish, bless you. I was thinking about with the Amish. I didn't realize this to I read recently because they're very closed group, right? I mean, you're there. They got their way of living. We've had
Starting point is 00:40:53 some interaction because we've spoken to some I don't really know, but I've met a lot of them. It shows on they're really nice they're very nice people and they make wonderful products and stuff but i didn't realize when they just hit a certain age they're teenagers they have a period of time where they they allow them and even encourage them to go check out the modern world and then decide whether you want to live out there or you want to come back in now i think once you make the decision you're in you know you're in the group but i never knew they gave you the choice but that gave me even more respect for their way of life
Starting point is 00:41:27 I respect them highly. You should have a choice. Yeah. I mean, you should have a choice. There's a fine line between having a close-knit group of family and love and having a cult. Right. That's exactly right. Once choice is not available, I mean, because God created us with a choice.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah. So, you know, unfortunately, we hate, you know, look, especially when you become parents, you're, you know, you sit in your own life, obviously. but when you see your kids making bad choices, you're like, but still you realize it's their choice and they have to work through this and find their own way to this access. I'll take the Amish over these worldly people every time.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Right. I respect them. Well, I do too, and there's a lot to respect. By the way, we met some up there in Pennsylvania wherever we spoke up there, you know. But they asked us, they invited us to speak to them, you know. you know the elder i could anybody from our world could easily slip into their world it would probably be you i'm saying well you don't have a cell phone and i'm saying he that has amish
Starting point is 00:42:41 tendencies i mean you you kind of understand that world you drive at the same speed as the horse and buggy even though you have a hunk of metal you're both going about the same speed you could do horse and buggy, he can be playing with that. Hors and buggy, we're going back. I don't mind if you go horse and buggy at all. I'm fully aware. I'm saying you're, they're tapping into your, you know, I'm just thinking if when diesel gets up, you know, three, four, five bucks an hour, I mean, a gallon, I mean, you ride along, come down on a horse, you know, a little hay and feed them a little bit. Good, good way to row. Well, they always say that everything goes back, you know, to the way it was, but now we're headed for the electric vehicle.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Now, we'll try that a while, but then we may eventually get back to the horse. So I think here's what we do. We take dad and we send him in on a boat to India to this island. Yeah. And because they need to know about, not only about what's going on, but they need to know about Jesus. So we're just going to send you in there. I think you could convince them, you know. If you can get the Indians or the Brazilians, I ask me, I'll go down there.
Starting point is 00:43:46 No, it's two different countries. Wait, we're wearing a different time. The Brazilians, they have the snake island. I don't want to go to Snake Island I'm out on that I just I mean what I got a fish I don't even like a snake here
Starting point is 00:43:58 well I don't either I mean my neighbor An island full of snakes I came about that close To get bitten by a cotton mouth other day Hey yesterday I just I just picked up a log And and chunked it
Starting point is 00:44:13 Because it was on the road The four wheeler didn't want to bounce other So I just reached and grabbed the end of it but you know how dumb could you get i mean you'd want to test that a little bit shake it a little bit i just bent down picked it and as soon as i threw it i mean you know about to size my arm a big old bull congo just came out of that thing i mean he was my hands were right above him like inches away and i thought what did you do did you i told myself on the way back to get in the four-wheeler i said that was dumb did you run or did you just say what the
Starting point is 00:44:49 heck no and you weren't you didn't have your weapon because you had your hands on the but it was in the rig but but when i got to it he was smart enough to get out of there but i tore the weeds up on the way out oh you started firing so he had your gun i went for i went for him but he could have bitten me and my i'd be swell up right now well phil you might have been dead it was a close call oh debo my neighbor he stepped on a snake and he i heard him I thought it was his wife, actually, because the sound he made was like 10 decibels up. I've come this close to being bitten so many times that I just consider it pure luck. I mean, it is luck.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. He was grabbing his chest, and he's like, and I said, what happened? He said, okay, it was a poisonous snake. I said, well, did you see his head? And he's like, nope, but it was a blackish, gray. And it just came at me. I started laughing. I could tell he was getting angry.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I was like, I'm not laughing at that you could have died. I was like, I just, it's just the high pitch scream. He's like, I mean, I'm clearing this. It's like his, I could tell his rage because his yard has really grown up, which I'm his neighbor and I don't care. care. You're not having a problem with that? Are you going to call an HOA meeting and deal with that? Well, he has chickens that we share. When your legs get right up on him and you're fixing a step on him, you'll see that flash. You look down and their mouths open, but they're just sitting there
Starting point is 00:46:38 and they're saying to you, one more step and I'm fixing to nail you. So they do warn you a little bit. Their mouth's open. But they're also aggressive. I mean, sometimes they'll come. Well, when he said this, the more I interrogated. You don't think it's a... No, I don't think it's poison. Because I was like, how big was it now? He said, was it blackish gray? I was like, but the fact that he...
Starting point is 00:46:58 Because he said, he just took off. I said, that doesn't seem like a cotton mouth. I said, it may have, you know, the look... And I've never seen one here. In our neighborhood. And so he was like, oh, thank you, Jesus. I mean, because he was traumatized. He's from California, which explains.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And they're a little high... I'm strong. I mean, they're a wonderful family. They're a little high school. We've kind of, you know, we bonded. I love them. But, you know, something got in their chicken coop, like a coyote or something, a feral dog or something, and basically wiped out all their chickens.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Oh, yeah. They really, they, I was there for the whole thing. I think, you know what? I think it's Hawks, which are protected. And he's like, well, we need to talk about that. I said, it's going to be a tough conversation. Yeah. Because if you start participating in the illegal activity, although I understand.
Starting point is 00:47:53 He's a lawyer. He ought to figure it out. I was like, but you know. They're both lawyers. They're a result of the big HOA embarrassment that Duck Dynasty showed. Yeah, with them, because all those people were like, oh, we got to follow the rules of the neighborhood. But once they kind of took a look at what they saw now, you know, they got. Why wouldn't you have chickens?
Starting point is 00:48:17 No, but right. What happened was we basically pulled a Beverly Hillbillies and we just took over the neighborhood. Yeah, that's true. We outnumber them now. So now it's full of redneck. So we're in Swankyville. I hadn't bought an egg in years, which is awesome. I know, which is great.
Starting point is 00:48:34 By the way, speaking of snake bites. So there's more than one way to take over a neighborhood. Sometimes you just got to make a little money and take over. The Apostle Paul was bitten by, they claimed that little adder in that part of the world. Oh, he's vicious. Yeah. Oh, they claim that that's a death, they kill you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:48 They have very poisonous. Right. He shook him off in the fire and, you know, just kept on going. They were all like, he's a God because he ought to be dead and he's not. Well, here's the bottom line. Don't get upset because you can't go to all these scary places. Because God's given us the greatest access point to eternity and purpose on earth. I mean, so we just did a whole podcast, the one on Therefore.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Therefore. We were going to go into Romans 5 and we got Therefore. It's the first word. And I look up and we're 50 minutes. How? It's the first word of 5'1. How does that happen? Therefore.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I wonder what therefore really means. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll find out next time we do the podcast. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else,
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