Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 294 | Jase Offers Phil Cash to Dance to Rap Music & an Announcement About 'The Chosen'

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

Phil offers a glimpse of what his day looks like during beaver-fighting season and shares his technique for cleaning filthy shoes. Jase tries to get Phil to dance to rap music and sweetens the deal with a four-figure cash incentive. Phil describes his painful scuffle with a cat. Jase has a verse you should read every morning to give you a positive outlook. The guys discuss what "the law of the Spirit of life" is, why being saved leads to freedom, why Phil calls Romans 8 "relief texts," and the story of an inmate who stumbled upon a Bible in a prison garbage can. And Jase closes with an announcement about the new episode of "The Chosen." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So when you got Romans chapter 8 coming up, Jase. And I call that relief text. Relief. Relief texts. It's a sigh of relief. Woo! You read Romans.

Phil, that's your talent. Is you take something seemingly complex and make it utterly so simple. And it's usually a sound effect to go with it. You know what I said? That has a lot of sound effect. I mean, I hate it that I'm not going to go spiritual. I'm going to go physical. But in the middle of the night, I woke up and I had some intestinal discomfort.

But I've been having plumbing problems. But I was having so much discomfort that I just went outside. Because I have a little outdoor bathroom that I think was good. But I just remember. after all that was had ended I just thought now that is some relief my mode of operandi in the last I felt relief physically now you're talking about spiritual relief right yeah spiritual and physical relief here as of today but I'm now 75 which I used to think that was old but now I'm not quite sure no Phil I mean yeah when you're 75 and you know I've been getting up at daylight and

And my world has turned into watching where you step. You know, I'm draining water. We drain the dog, we call it dog by you. We flood it. The beavers moved in on us. So this is your workout program. It's 75 people. This is a workout program.

We took a drag. We taped it to a push pole. so it's about 10 feet long. What do you mean by drag? A drag is what you tear a beaver dam out with. There's got claws on it. We put metal handles instead of wooden handles, but we take out beaver dams by hand with this drag.

It's got four claws like a rake, but they're long claws. What happened to the dynamite and all that? Well, if I don't trust dynamite, I think I'd blow myself up. But the bottom line is we're cutting beaver dows. What would Matt Dillon do? We are running into alligators.

Oh, we got some gators down there now. Got some gators down there. Evidently, these alligators are migrating. Hey, by the way, so if you go down south, you know, Jay and Cid just went fishing down in Venice. You know, and you're coming there going to New Orleans, you know, alligator roadkill is pretty common because there's so many down there. You'll see them on, I mean, like a deer or a dog or something on the side of the road. Really? They're running over an alligator.

Yeah. There's so many of them. But look. You would think that wouldn't kill him. For the first time ever, for me, on I-20, not too long after I crossed the river into Louisiana. Between the river and Tallulah, there was about a seven-footer that somebody had run over. He just had a big chunk of his head missing where it looked like he saw a car. You don't think he, like, fell out of somebody's truck or something.

It looked like somebody ran over it. No, he came out of about. one in the bayous over. But we see... I mean, alligator roadkill. I've never seen that in North Louisiana, so it's definitely changed now. You think they're coming from the south?

They're coming from everywhere, but the bottom line is where the beavers are piling up all the debris, the gators are lying up on that. So when we walk up there to cut the beaver down, there's gators laying up there, you know, six, seven footers. But wouldn't they eat the... Do they eat beavers? Well, I wish they'd eat them all.

I wish I could pay them to eat them all, but I don't know. They all act like they're friends to me. Allegedly they eat them. But a gator slides out in front of you. He goes off where you're fixing to do some work. And usually he'll pop up about all 10 yards. He'll just go about 10 yards and raise his head up. And he watches you?

And he just sitting there watching. Well, you know, Dan. and Dan watches them closer than I do. He's got yuppie tendons. Yeah, yeah. What do you think? I said, I think he'll go on. And you know they're attracted to white, as I read one time.

But, you know, I got the old white t-shirt on here. You might not have a weapon that's handy. I have a weapon at the ready. But alligators are not aggressive, contrary. Typically. Most of the time, they act like just an old dog at a yard. They'll just move back out of the way. and mosey on off.

Unless it's a little attack, though. Right now, it's cutting beaver dams. We're draining water. The river's about 10 foot high. We check the river stage. We look at what's coming to us from the north as far as the water coming up. But the idea is to drain it all, plant it with duck food. So right now we're going into June.

I feel like we're having a game plan. We're in a meeting. And if we had a whiteboard, we'd have the water coming from the north. The gators are coming from the south. They're coming from everywhere. Well, that comes from everywhere. The point is there's crawfish just moving around under your feet. Just crawfish because I'm draining it.

And that thing had more crawfaces, I thought, but I should have been catching some of them. Well, let's catch. But we got another place. We can do that. We catch all the crawfish you want. I'm in on that. Right now. We can catch all you want.

We are cutting beaver dams. We are getting ready to go over on the west side of our property, make another big duck hole, a big grass patch. So we're going to put a dump across a bayou. I mean, we've got tricoles, bulldozers. Alligators and crawledads. What about our old friend Jim, the old cut in mouth? Have you seen a few of those around?

I've seen a few of those. They died. Yeah. Good job. Good job. Because the same place you're going to tear out, the cotton hairs are coming out of there. You just have to watch them because, you know, they will bite you. Yeah, the key statement advice I've taken from this update on the woods and the water is you said,

I watch every step. Well, that was good advice. I got what I got out of it beginning about last Monday, I was reaching down with that drag, pulling up debris out of this metal box that's got boards in front of it. That's what holds your water. Well, the beavers coming in when they got done, they just packed that thing full. We had to take it all out, had to bring out a track hole to do it. We're standing there with the drags.

But that drag was long. When you get some debris, you're coming up 10 feet and dragging it out of this box. If you're listening, by the way, he's going through all the motions. I had a, with backbreaking work, you've heard of it. I mean, I ended up with a back ache at 75. I've been saying for the last few years, you know, no aches and no pain. Well, we got a backache, but that I kicked up at Omega XL. I kicked up at Omega XL.

I said, well, maybe let's see if it's what it's said it is. And you're better, right? Yep. So I broke out the old Omega XL there. And I will admit. The egg stayed with me for about three days, but it was getting a little better each day. Well, on day four, I said, all right, here we go. So the back egg left, came and went.

The other night, Dad was at the house, and he and mom were leaving. I think it was after the wedding, maybe. And so Sage came out there. We got some cats now. We got two kittens, you know, they're small. And Sage came out there and plopped the cat down on dad's legs. he was in the truck and he's visiting

leave and I'm talking to mom and dad's like hey what's this one's name here you know and whatever frisca what's your name Charlie I said Charlie what you say and Charlie decided

he would flex his claws on my leg and he just inserted them fog went right through these bridges and he got into the meat so she was pulling him off and of course those claws are pulling

with it and they went and this room to rip and down went he So, yeah. What she saw was Charlie dismounting my leg at a rapid rate of speed. So, you know, Charlie didn't get along too well.

You know what I learned. He's a good cat, but, you know. You know when I was a kid, what I learned about a cat, why I didn't like them? Out about eight holes in my leg from that year. Yeah. I mean, I was a kid, and I learned it. Cats. No cat.

that I ever came up on as a kid liked to be baptized. No, they don't like water. They didn't like that. Every time I got scratches when I tried to baptize a cat, because I thought, something evil but to you cats.

So, you know, as a kid, you're anti-baptizant. You're mine, I thought, I'm going to baptize this. They didn't like that. Well, what scared me about the cats was when Bobo decided he's a killer of all small animals,

but when he got a hold of a big tomcat out there in the yard one day, remember that? He got hooked. He lost. Yeah. That cat whipped him. I like a tom cat that's in my yard.

I got a couple out at our bed and breakfast place. Yeah. And they just came up, but I feed them when they're there because I was like, let's be friends, but I love them. They're the perfect keepers of the yard, I guess, because they just, that's right. So I fed them to keep them there. Then I quit feeding them, and I'm like, you go get your own. Dan lost his cat.

He had one around here. They were good to get mice and stuff. He'd bring him mice. and now he's an old tomcat so he did a lot of prowling at night but dan said some of the rednecks racing you know at night running up down the road no back to road kill now hurdle dan i could tell so alex has a cat no one could touch that cat but dan dan's the only one he'd let pet him Alex has a cat that they got from the rescue place and it only has one eye and it was interesting because when they first got it was just kind of like a you know you could see it but now the

fur is just grown over where that eye was. That's interesting. It's a one-eyed cat, and she named it Dan Crenshaw after the, you know, our man, our Navy seal that lost his eye because he has a patch, which I loved it. I was like, so when a, you know, Pearl, she's like three years old, I said, what's your cat's name? Dan Kichon. And so, but it's a one-eyed cat, but that thing is amazing.

We put it in, I was having some mice problems, so that thing, even with one eye, I mean, they are hunters. Oh, they are. You know, they're really good. I like a cat, but the dogs I currently have, sneaky, freaky, and bobo. Those three dogs, they don't like cats. Yeah. It's a fight.

If they see a cat, it's on. Yeah. So they just don't mix. Too much trouble. Too much. Too much. Back to the other days. But other than that, if you wonder what 75-year-old men do down here in the south,

get up in the morning at daylight and go over and fight the beavers. And I've got some traps this time, so I might get some of them. It's just so many of them. They are prolific. You could go up and down a river at night with a 22 and go a couple of miles up the river and turn around and come back. You could kill 50 beavers.

They are really... They've taken over. And they are, they've dammed up everything. We have. I'm constantly breaking up all that debris, bringing all up. Well, and it's funny because I don't guess they have a... I don't guess they have... If alligators don't eat them, what would be a predator

of a beaver. Alligator. So that's all maybe maybe these gators will solve your problem. I like gators. Of course the problem

of gators is they've been protected for so long and they have no predator, except for us except for humans. So you haven't been able to,

you know, they've just been really judicious and allowing people to hunt. A lot of predators when they're young, they're small.

Right. But once they get big and they live a long time. They live like as long as a person to. But you get used to it all, and you know, you just have to kind of literally watch his step.

It's funny, people that aren't around gators are very afraid of them, but like you said, just we really aren't because they're not aggressive. No, we're working and we got out of gators

10 yards away just looking at us here, but they don't seem to want to attack. Of course, maybe a dumb. I think the producers of the swamp people did that. Yeah. Because they, you know,

well, they're scary. Yeah. It's like I'll, I, because I just realized at an early stage that I'm a terrible actor, so I just thought when we filmed this show, I'm just going to be myself because I can't act.

So I just thought whatever I'm going to do. But I know how they are. By the time you edit and put music and it didn't even, I don't even remember doing this stuff, and I was in it. But they did the same thing with the swamp people. They dramatized that catching of a gator with just all the things that's all wrong.

Because if you're hunting him like they did, let's take a break. Then, and he comes up there and, you know, you got it hooked. Yeah, but out they're pulling and making it look. Phil and I trapped gators out when we had the place of the tent hall. Yeah. There was no drama. Yeah. He just went up there and boom.

It's over. I never thought, oh, I'm in danger. I mean, he may pull me under and this turn into a horror movie that, I never felt it. Did you? No. No. Well, yeah, I agree.

Now, we had a small dog that got out there. Yeah. And it was that way for him. Yeah. But. Which, that's about the people working puppies and stuff. We were playing golf a few years ago, Jay's, I don't know if you remember this, in Peninsula.

And there's a little pond over there. And the only time you got to watch it is if they're on a nest or got little ones, they will be aggressive. Jay, J hit a golf ball over there. And it was someone that that was thick, weedy, like plant. and he's looking around in there for his golf ball. It's right by the water's edge. And all of a sudden, you know, he's kind of down a slope.

So we're watching, hey, you're going to hit, you're going, you know. And we were all looking over there. And all of a sudden he comes high stepping up that hill wide open. And behind him was about a, what was it was about a six foot gator and hissing and running at him because she had an ass down there. So now that one did. And theoretically, that gator could have run him down. Oh, yeah, they're very fast.

People think you're going to run for them. They make up their mind. Although I have to say in that moment, I don't know how fast stone is, but he was really running fast when that gator got on his tail. So they will make you high step a little bit. So we have a on Facebook, there's a large group of people that listened to us. And the guy that is the admin for it, Steve, he just sent me a few comments.

I want to read, Jace, about the chosen episode last week because people are really loving it. And Steve himself said, he was a huge fan of Dallas and casting crew. I was overjoyed when I heard the rumblings that Dallas might be on the podcast. It's my favorite show and my favorite podcast. It's like chocolate and peanut butter coming together. So I thought that was pretty good. Isn't that a Reese's Cup?

It is. Steve, that's a Reese's Cup. Definitely one of the best podcasts ever. Bonnie said, all my favorite people in one place. Awesome. Serena said, fantastic. I didn't want the conversation to end, which that's the way you like a podcast when they...

Is there a question in her? No, they were just saying... They were just sharing with each other. How way to be positive. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, we tell me. I'm saying. We're talking about all the negative stuff he gets.

These people... They think a lot of this is scripted and all that. They don't realize we don't come here with the big batch of notes and all that stuff. Phil, you're telling the secret to our show. Well, that's fine. I don't care. But I mean, but the bottom of mind is... We're basically trying to project

in these United States of America. I can't say this too loudly. It's called common sense. Common sense. I mean, give me a break. Well, fighting those beavers got you all wound up today. Oh, he's just stirred up.

Jill said it wasn't long enough. We need a part two. I mean, look, see, most people wouldn't realize this. Phil, you're no longer on the mic. We've lost you. No, I'm back. I'm just showing right here, just show you. Here's, when you see a man with shoes

like this. Let me give the play by. I play. These are the muddiest, most disgusting shoes I've ever seen in my life. These are the shoes I have on while we're doing this, but look at this. See this build up? But the good news is I'm being pretty careful with them because once this dries out, I can jump out there on that concrete floor, do a little jig, you know, like they do on TV. I think that's a dance. I'm turning into a little rap episode and you look up, you'll say, no more mud. It'll dry and fall away. So, but I got to let it.

I had it dry today, but that's where I'll be, and that's how deep the mud was. Phil, if you went out there and did a rap, a dance to rap music, I literally would pay you at least four figures to watch that happen. So if you do, let me know. All of that is outside our skill set, Jay's rapping. I was, when I was dancing the other night during the LSU game. I kept doing an awkward dance every time they would do something well. All right, here's another one.

The Chosen brought me back to Jesus. The Unashamed podcast has taught me the deeper meaning in life of Jesus. And she says, far more than I've ever encountered, ever. She does a feel ever. Ever is two syllables, but Phil. But she's got it capitalizing a dash ever. That's what dad says. That's what Phil's real excited.

He can take a one syllable word. She said, between these two, I have the. the most earnest desire to live a Jesus-centered life. Well, kudos to her. I've joined a church family. I've begun speaking openly about Jesus and his meeting to my life, which is awesome. That's Cheryl that said that. By the way, unless there is a, I'll go back to what I've been saying for about years,

unless there's a mass repentance, what do you want to call it, an awakening? I mean, I read through the founding fathers other day, say what you want to about those guys. The vast majority of them were very godly men. Agreed. That's not by accident that it produced the greatest nation on earth. Right. But we have just literally undermined that for the last 60 years,

and now the chickens are coming home to roost, and if America does not repent, we're in for a, I won't see it. It's a little past me. but I give it 25 or 30 years unless something is done rapidly. Well, you remember the verse? With this debt and with all these hairbrain schemes, and here comes Carl Marx again.

It looks like people would learn, but they just keep repeating the same mistakes. Right. Well, but the point is Jesus changes the heart. That's why whenever you feel like the world is closing in on you and you're becoming less optimistic. about our future. You realize where we've left off in Romans after this inner battle that every human has,

he gets to that first verse and says, therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. That's why I call it a relief text. If you just took that one verse and woke up every morning and say to yourself, Wow, there is no condemnation for me because I'm in Jesus. Common sense. And you said, what is condemnation? All bad.

There's nothing bad for those who are in Christ Jesus. I mean, what a positive outlook. Along with what you just said, because I figured you were going to start that. I didn't say it. I just quoted it, but that's what it says. The Hebrew writer, by one sacrifice, he God has made perfect forever there it is there it is ever perfect forever perfect forever that's that one and why are you there jace let's see here's another one what about this

one time uh you were alienated from god and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior that's that's roman seven again but i'm reading from colossians 121 but now God has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death, his death on a cross, to present you, let's see, holy in his sight, because of what he did, not because of what you did, without blemish. That'd be free from accusation. That'd be free from accusation. That'd be no condemnation.

There is an if there. If you continue in your faith, established and firm, not move from the hope held out. And here it is again, by the gospel. I love that free from accusation. Free from accusation. Because in our culture, this current cultural war that we now participate in, all you basically need to ruin people is an accusation. That's why the council culture, Jays, the cancel culture, they get on me or some of y'all, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they try to undermine what we're doing, and they're passing judgment on us, and they're doing the same things. We're all sinful men. We've gone through all that, but we're under the grace of God. Therefore, there's no condemnation for us. We're trying to show people you can get in a position where you're not a blemish. You're free from accusation, and you'll never be condemned. Just believe in Jesus. faith there when you get up in the morning and you got immortality waiting and for the life of me it

looks like to me more people would say you know what i'm i think i'm going to get in on that train and why would you not want to let's take another break how would you define that romans 8 2 where it says because there's no condemnation for those who are in christ jesus because through jesus the law of the spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death? How would you define in a simplistic term, what is the law of the spirit of life? Just what we're saying. There's no condemnation. There's condemnation, no condemnation under that law. The law of the spirit of life is, it's two head headings are, just love God and just love your neighbor. The law of the spirit would take over from there.

Well, I've always liked it. The written code is counsel. Well, you say, well, what was the written code? What took its place, the law of the spirit of life? Well, yeah, and I see it as the two forces. It's good and evil because it's like what he's saying is, is you have a law of sin and death. Yep.

So the law is included in that, obviously, because it shows it. But really, the law is you sin, you die. Yep. I mean, that's a constant. That's right. I look at it like physics. you got that. But if you somehow could not be bound by that, you would have this other choice,

and this is the law of spirit and life. So therefore, you don't have to die and stay dead. You can live and you can live with the Spirit of God being as your force. So I see the same thing. I like the end of the law. Live by the Spirit and you're under the law of the Spirit of Life instead of the Code of Death. And when you get to the law of the Spirit of Life, you say, just let the spirit guide you wherever you go.

And that's really the theme of the whole chapter. You can spot them. Don't you think it's cool, though, that in between the two laws, he says it set me free. That's right. Right. I mean, most people don't look as people who follow Jesus as free people. They think, oh, you're going to church because you have to. They're thinking rules or regulations, rules and regulations.

Well, you remember back in chapter six, he compared, he did the same comparison, but he called it a slave to sin or a slave to righteousness. It's the same basic concept. It's a choice. Well, how can you be free in that scenario? What would you say? I would say that you are free to do the right thing instead of be bound by the wrong thing. I mean, I think that's the whole beauty of the spirit, because that's the part where we still mess up, but we're not under condemnation and death anymore. So you're much more free to do much better things. That's why People look at and say, this is such a, man, you're such a good guy. Well, he's not good because of anything he did.

See, that's what I said about the chosen. I say, look, he's exercised in the person who had that idea. That's an exercise of the freedom that he experienced in Jesus to say, you know what I think I'll do? I'll make a show about those apostles and the friends along with it. The posy. And since they're all flawed, we'll just. try to use that as an example of our flaws in our pursuit of Jesus, and maybe we can connect somehow into life,

lives that change based on a view of Jesus. Guess what? I like a person who comes up with those free ideas. The key point in all this, Al, is no human being, none have ever kept the law perfectly. But because Jesus kept it, he kept it, and it's counted as us keeping it because we're in him. I like the way John said it. Everyone who breaks, everyone who sins breaks the law.

First John three, four. Yeah, but in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. and in him is no sin. So that's how you can get around a law of works. He kept the law of works. Then died for us because we didn't keep it, but he counts us as perfect because he's perfect

and our face in him. And we are him. And his spirit lives in us. Man, you're talking about a great act of kindness. Well, and basically you get back over to Romans 8. He says just what you said in verse 3 and 4, for what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering.

He kept it farce. And so he condemned sin in sinful man in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us who do not live according to the flesh, but according to the spirit. He was the, and all these animals and blood was thrown, not a one of them removed into sin. Here comes God in flesh, and he said, and he fixed it so that all of our sins, he took them away because our faith in him. Once you get in Jesus, you're surrounded by the blood and the mediating work.

You're like, sin can't touch you. Just get up and go again. You make a mistake. It's hard to wrap your brain around. I remember having an argument one time that went back and forth for seemingly hours and it was basically that we could have kept the law and then I forgot which side of this I was on and the response was well no because all are sinners but and then the response was but Jesus did he kept it and you're like so I could have but then the argument was but you're you didn't. But you won't. I kept saying, but you won't. Eventually, and they were like, they didn't like that it was being said, but you could have. It's like, well, but Jesus did. They're like, well, but he was God, but he became a man. It's like we just went around and around

that. There was never a decision reached because it hit me that. It's hard to grasp that. Yeah. But you know, but you're right because Hebrews too said he was made. like us in every way so that he would understand and tempted like us in every way to understand it. So it's not like he set aside. He's saying, can you be a much better person? How can you be the best person under law of works or a law of faith, law of the spirit of life? But what about the rich young ruler? I mean, what he said, what must I do?

What is this, Matthew 19? I think that's where the rich young ruler. He said, he asked Jesus, what must I do? And he said, keep all the commandments. And he said, I've kept them. Now, do you think that meant up until that point? No. But then Jesus said, well, what I would think he hadn't kept them on.

Well, what I would have said was, you're a liar. But what Jesus said, because he knew his heart, he didn't want to catch him in the lie. He said, go sell everything you have. because he was a rich guy and follow me, which was not written anywhere in any kind of law. No. Well, what everybody needs to grasp in this Romans 8 text is the mindset. Now, that starts in verse 5.

Where are you at? Romans 8, 5. Oh, okay. So you say, so what is demanded under the law of the spirit of life instead of a law of works? those who live according to the sinful nature, that's day in and day out, those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires, but those who live in accordance with the spirit have their minds set on what the spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the spirit, and that's the

the key is life and peace. The sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. You ever are controlled not by the flesh or sinful nature, but by the spirit. So how do you practically? The spirit of God, Edge. So there's a mindset that's what people are thinking.

So how do you, how does that happen? Hang on, Joseph. Because if you mind. Let's take a break down. If your mind is set on something, you'll do a far better job than if it's not set on something. So you have two ways to go. If it's set on sexual immorality, lust, greed, and all that stuff, if your mind is set on that, that's what you'll do over and over and over and suffer the consequences.

Here comes Jesus, and he says, look, you get in me, I'll take care of all your sins. no sin will be counted against you. Just confess them and I'll remove them. But remember, keep your mind set on love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentlest, and self-control. Get your mind set on that. Live like that and basically saying your behavior will really change and it does. That's an interesting verse that verse 8 says those control by the simple nature cannot please God. You know, that's from their perspective, not God, because God, we know he's there.

His grace is bigger. We've read that. But they're just in a position. It's our prerogative. Where it's just not going to happen. They're not going to please God because they're literally controlled by that. They wake up every morning thinking of only themselves and now to please themselves. That's correct.

You have others a distant second and God is not even on the chart. Well, and again, if you don't have the Holy. Spirit of God living in you, then there's no way to have a connection back to Jesus and to the life you're supposed to be living. Yeah, because you're relying on your power. Which, Jay, you said that. I look back, it's Matthew 19. You're right.

But the question he asked was, what good thing must I do? Yeah, that's what it was. To get eternal life. And then he says, Jesus said, why do you talk to me about what is good? He said, you know, if you won't life obey the commandments. Because that was his, if you read between the lines why Jesus. went down the road he did because the guy's like I want to I can earn this exactly what good thing must he was saying I don't need you and Jesus the reason he said that I'm convinced is

Jesus wanted to get him on record to say it out loud that oh I am good which he did if it's law and he did and I'm sure he was a good person the way we view good people yeah there are a lot of good moral-based people that are not, you know, don't deserve to be locked up in prison here. There's a lot of people doing a lot of good things. Right. Not in the name of Christ. It's just good things. Well, you're right.

And he was rich. And you remember, Jesus says right after that, the line he says, it's harder for a rich man to get to heaven than, you know, the camel through the eye of the needle. The reason he said that is because people that don't lack. You know what we talked about it. You have to get to a, usually a pretty, desperate place in your own mind and heart to seek God to begin with. Well, what if you got everything?

What if you don't have any desperation? What if your life seems pretty fulfilling? I don't need anything. Right. And you're just like, you know, I'm pretty good. I had many Bible studies where that was the analysis. They're like, I like my life. There's no need for God.

But I think the point is in a verse that I write when people ask me to sign my name, which is embarrassing. But I always put this Matthew 1926. because it's the same principle as Romans. Because they said, well, how hard is it then for the rich man? This sounds pretty difficult. This is his disciples. Yeah.

No, what they said, they were looking at it. They're looking at their rag tag book. And they look and said, who can be saying? Like if this guy was like the perfect guy. Because he's a moral man. The guy was good. But he thought he could do it without the grace of God or Jesus. And that's just simply not true.

which ultimately that's the answer is who can be good. How can I do a good thing? And Jesus says, you can't. But he basically comes up with a principle. The reason I signed this and put this verse here, because there's a principle in life. Every once in a while you stumble up on a verse in a Bible that is a fundamental principle for life

that says something in a powerful way with just very few words. And if you wanted to sum up a part of following Jesus, this statement by Jesus does that because he says now granted it was in the context of of a man trying to pull off his own salvation because he was a quote air quotes good guy yeah right it says with man because he said who then can be saved with man this is impossible but with god all things are possible so it's impossible for you to do it but it's impossible for you to do it in God, the impossible becomes possible. Because we know what he meant in between the words of that,

in that I have a way, I have a plan that we're going to execute and we're faithful to that's going to save you from the consequences and punishment of your own doing. Which is why you get to what we talked about, when I preached home last week, you get a guy that says you're going to have a son, all the whole world is going to be blessed through him. I mean, your descendants are going to be like stars in the sky and sand on the sheeshore. And then you were told to kill him and you go and you get right to the point and you're doing it.

I mean, Abraham was fully committed because we know he reasoned to the resurrection. He was in an impossible situation. Exactly. I'll give you another scenario. If you're locked up in prison for a life sentence, it's, and it's, you're like, Well, I guess it's possible that you can be free, but I just, I'm saying within those walls behind those bars, barring some supernatural event or what have you. It's impossible for you to be free while you're in there if you take Jesus out of the equation. Right.

But that is actually possible for you to be free even while you're there. That is correct. In Jesus. So that's the kind of stuff we're talking. about where people are like, that didn't make sense. Well, it does once you understand who Jesus is and the ramifications of surrendering to Christ because you can actually be free and have no condemnation in Jesus and have eternal life given. And be on death row.

Yeah. You can have the promise of eternal life and the hope and be free. It's possible with God. That's not possible with man. you're not going to come up with anything that's going to produce that. Let's take another break. It's like, Judge, you remember that, I don't know if you were there, that Dr. Christopher Yun, an Asian guy that spoke at West Railroad, a couple years ago.

Absolutely. So his story was, Dad, he was a gay drug dealer. I mean, like big-time drug dealer, like federal, you know. Went to prison. Went to prison. Yeah. Had a long rap and he's in there. Somebody threw a Bible in a garbage can.

I don't need this in here. He picks it, finds it, picks it up, starts reading it. He hadn't had a God moment his whole life, he said. And he was set free in jail. He comes out, he was like, I'm not going to be gay and I'm not going to sell drugs. I'm going to totally submit my life to Christ. And to this day, that's what he does. He teaches Bible.

God, he, it was an awesome, whatever you want to call it, testimony. So he's, he finds his relationship with, or God finds him however you want to view it. But then he repaired the relationships with his parents. And they were actually there in his speech. And they did it kind of like a three-pronged. It was very moving and touching. And it just shows you that when we say stuff that faith comes to hearing a message

and the power is all based on God, and here's a guy in prison. There was not even a person that shared with him. He just literally stumble up on. on this, because what else you're going to do? Spend their, you know, most of your life. His mother, she had been praying for him, just desperately praying that he would finally open himself up to God.

A lot of people ask us on the podcast, what about, I got this kid there. Don't stop praying that they'll get to a point where they're finally going to be open to it, because I'm telling you, there's anything's possible. You know, it may be impossible you're thinking in the moment, but it's not. All things are possible. He mentions in verse 7, the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.

Control by is a key verse there. Right. Word. You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature. That's what you were delivered from. Right. But by the spirit, if the spirit of God lives in you, why, it's really critical that when Peter told those people, when they ask, okay, we murdered him, what have we done?

What do we do? He said, repent and be baptized, all of you in the name of Jesus, so that your sins will be forgiven, and God will give you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Well, without him, he's called imperishable seed. Once that's planted in you, if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mind. mortal bodies through his spirit who lives in it. He begins to...

Those two verses are two of my favorite words. He jumped all the way to immortality with how you roll on planet Earth. You know, you just can't claim Jesus and live like the devil, but you can claim Jesus and live by the spirit, and people will notice

those are some good people. That's a good woman right there. That's a good man right there. That's why. Even your haters, they look at it and say, you know, how do you get there? Right. That's why these people that, I mean, you read some compliments and some positive things about our podcast or the Chosen, but it's actually not us. The first few words of this, but if Christ is in you.

That's right. And you tie that in with Colossians 127. The mystery of Godliness is that Christ is in you. The Galatians 220 that I quote all the time, I've been crucified. with Christ, I no longer live. Christ lives in me. I mean, he moves in. We try to get out of the way, but we have this daily battle going on. That's why in the previous chapter, he finally concluded during this daily war that rages on in all human beings, this fight between good and evil, the victory has to be given to Jesus Christ. Because ultimately, he did keep it all.

The prisons are full, Jase, the rehabs are full, the psychiatric community is It's happening a field day, deciphering what's going on in your head. And they all go keep this constant battle and it getting bigger all the time and more and more of them. And in Jesus, he's right there hiding in plain sight. He said, I'll get you out of this. But you're going to live by my spirit. And the spirit becomes then that your testimony, to your point, Jason, in verse 16,

the spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are, God. children. Yep. See, that's the testimony. That's my point. So your spirit is there, the spirit of God is there. Paul said in Ephesians 1, the spirit is a deposit given us so that we will receive one day our ultimate gift.

Guarantee. Which is why the focus on the relationship, which is what we've been saying when Jesus said you reach studying the scriptures and you're missing me and John 5, because he gets down there and look, his word's not mine. And by him we cry, Abba. father. I mean, this dad, son relationship, which makes people feel uncomfortable in some people in the church because they're like, oh, well, you're bringing God down. No, he's the one that says we're God's children. When I look at my kids, I mean, and how they were when they were younger

with me and still had that innocence. And they relied on me, you know, to be their leader and to provide security when they have fears and everything we always say that about that age is so special and treasure these because when they when they come to be teenagers guess what yeah i've said this before i'm like all hell will break loose because then they go through this same system that we all do and they start distancing their self from god and you're like what happened what happened to my baby even in those moments of rebeying though jays you still love them you're still I mean, you don't have many times I've said that to all my kids. I'm like, okay, this was horrible.

This was terrible. I'm angry. They're upset. We're arguing. What are we going to do? But at the end of the day, I always say, I'm never going to stop loving. That's right. Let's don't miss that.

Plus, what everybody needs to realize here is because a lot of people, they have the idea, well, if I come to Jesus or I came to Jesus, but I'm still suffering. I'm still suffering. Here's what they miss. By him, what you call it, Abba, Father, this is verse 15. The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children. Now, if we're children, then we are heirs, heirs of God and co-ares with Christ. But some of them are still saying, but why am I suffering near what I'm hearing?

If indeed we share in His sufferings in order that we may also share, in his glory. People had to realize the suffering not going to stop. No. And you got to remember. The persecution will come. He had already. Take it.

Look what they did to him. Yeah. He had already said that in chapter 5 and verse 3. If you remember, he said not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance, perseverance character, and character hope. Because when you... It's not a cake walk.

When you take a stand for Jesus, number one, the evil world is riled up. They're coming. And everybody who cannot please God, which we just read, well, you're making them feel guilty. Because if you're right and Jesus is real, they're out. Like the guy who said, Mr. Robertson, I'd strongly dislike you. Yeah. That's why you should never be on social media.

You should never be on social media field because you just were told, you were told that one instance. And that's literally going to happen every. Well, whenever someone comes forward to our church and they have cancer, they found out some bad news, and they know they're going to have a battle. I always pray that, of course, we want them to be delivered. We want more years with them. We pray for healing, which is James 5. But I also pray that in this battle, God will get glory.

Because if that ultimately is your golden line, even if you got to battle through something rough. We got to close out, but I save one comment for last because I have an announcement. to go with it. Brian said, I say there needs to be a gathering of unashamed nation and the chosen army. Get some bands and let's hear from the Robertsville family and the cast of chosen. Well, we're actually doing that. I know. That's why I saved it for last. So we're going to, we've said on June 23rd, we're going to record our podcast live in front of a live audience at the National Religious Broadcasters Conference. That's courageous. I'm super excited about it. And Zach's going to be joining us. So we're going to have fun.

with that. But right after that, this is new news, because I've mentioned the other four, Jace, you're going to, tell them what you're going to do. We're going to watch, I think, the new episode of the Chosen, whatever that is, sorry, I don't know the number. I've seen them all up to date. We'll be watching that with the live audience. They'll be releasing it on live stream. Yeah, Dallas will be there and some cast, I think, are going to be there. Then I will get up and say a few words, I guess. So always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have. So I'm, you know, I think we'll get up and talk to the their live stream

nation. So that's exciting. So be looking for that. That's all going to happen on the 23rd. I'm still trying to find out if they're for sure, whether they're opening it up to people going there, but you can reach out to NRB, which is national religious broadcasters and find out. But I'm hoping to have some news. Keep it on your radar. It'll be fun. It'll be great. See you next time. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else,

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