Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 3 | Biden’s Battle and the Reliability of the Scriptures
Episode Date: May 12, 2019Joe Biden’s campaign slogan sounds familiar, doesn’t it? Phil, Al, and Jase discuss Joe’s battle for the soul of our nation, the reliability of the scriptures, and their thoughts on writing a bo...ok. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome, guys, to the Unashamed podcast with Phil Robertson, Al Robertson here.
We're going to have Jace today as well of Phil, of course.
It's his podcast.
We're going to be talking about the reliability of the scriptures today, really how they have
motivated us to live the way we live and to do what we do.
So I think it's going to be really, you're going to enjoy it as an interesting discussion.
We may even talk about old sleepy Joe Biden.
You never know what to expect.
So glad you're here.
I am.
I'm unashamed.
What about you?
So, Dad, I never thought that you and Joe Biden would be in a lot of agreement just from following his politics and, of course, listening to you for all these years.
But recently, he said that in America, we are, we're fighting for the soul of America.
That's where we're at.
And basically, that is the premise of your new book, that that that.
to America's soul. So you and Sleepy Joe apparently are in agreement. I didn't think I would live
to see the day when a spokesman for the Democratic Party would be talking about being in a battle
for the soul of America. One, and two is I, Joe Biden, am here to make America moral again.
and I'm looking at the Democratic Party.
Huh?
He said that?
Yeah.
He said, I'm here to make America moral again.
Trump wants to make it great again.
I want to make it moral again because the Democratic Party is the entity that you look toward
to practice moral behavior, as in love your neighbor, love, joy, peace,
patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
That's what the Democratic Party, that's been their mantra.
I haven't heard the Democratic Party say a kind word.
In fact, I have not heard the Democratic Party in the last decade say one word,
even mentioned the word God.
And I have not heard one of them at any time in any time.
Any debate on any TV show, say the words, Jesus Christ.
I haven't heard them one time.
But they're going to be the moral standard for America.
They've slaughtered 60 million of their own children, champions of it.
The Democratic Party are the ones who have run God out of our schools.
The Democratic Party pushed this narrative that marriage is not between a man and a woman.
Seven thousand years of history, biblical history, we look back.
one man, one woman from the beginning.
For this reason, you have a male and a female.
That's in doubt with the Democratic Party.
No such thing.
You can be a man or a woman, just whatever day you wake up and decide what you are.
So you look at all that.
And Joe Biden has come down from somewhere, come out of the woodwork.
Delaware, I think.
Delaware.
Delaware.
And he's going to be the standard of morality.
He's whispering to Barack Obama on stage in front of a lot of people.
this is a big effing deal.
I'm like, what kind of individual would use that terminology
and go to quiz in us and telling us I'm the standard of morality in the United States?
I'm going to make you feel better.
He's not going to win.
He's not going to win.
He's basically saying I'm going to be the moral, I'm bringing back morality,
and I heard him speak five minutes about how terrible the tax cuts are.
So, I mean, that's his big deal.
I'm going to raise your taxes and I'm going to bring you some morality.
from somewhere.
You know, so I'm sensing some doubt on dad's part that, you know, Biden would really make America
moral again.
I was talking about the acronym.
You know, it's MAGA.
You know, we hear MAGA because now it's everywhere.
Make America great again.
Make America moral again is mama.
Yeah.
When I thought about that, I just thought of, Mama, you know, it's like, it's such a weak,
you know, I don't know, just the whole idea.
It's almost laughable.
I was thinking of the Aerosmith.
Mama, didn't that that starts off?
It is.
It is interesting.
Maybe Joe, in a moment of weakness,
maybe Joe in a moment of weakness,
actually sat down and read my book,
The Th theft of America.
Maybe he did.
I'm blaming it on the devil.
You could add, working in and through the Democratic Party
is the reason we've been on about a 60 year
no God allowed in anything.
I saw them cheer like at a ball game.
They were jumping and cheering when they got the news
that we can now kill children.
Even after they're born,
just put them on a table and let them die a slow death.
I heard them cheer when they heard that news.
That's terrible.
And they're now going to be the standard of morality.
God help us.
is all I can say.
Well, I will say, Dad, that I, and you know, we've all written a lot of books,
Jace, you wrote a book.
Man.
Good call.
It's easy, isn't it?
No.
You know, they give, I had a ghost writer.
He interviewed me.
And, you know, I wanted to share my faith, share what was going on.
And I read the first chapter after I was interviewed, and I thought, this won't work.
I guess I'm going to write this myself and then send it to him and say, what do you think?
you know, take care of all the English part of it, the correct grammar.
And that's kind of the system we did.
I wrote my book for two months in between the hours of 11 at night and 4.30 in the morning
during duck season.
So then when I would finish, I would just come duck hunting.
So you said, when did you sleep?
I really didn't.
And then you have to edit in the whole process.
So this is like Dad's third book.
But I have to say, out of all the books we've done, I mean, Dad, this is one of the best we've done so far.
And, you know, a lot of them were about the stories.
Yeah, I've promoted your book because I read it and I thought, now this, this is awesome.
Well, in the timing of it, you know, in terms of where we are culturally, had a big part of that, too.
So, you know, we've been.
And Phil shows his softer side.
He does.
He does.
There's a softer side of day.
You should see where we started with the book, where we wound up here.
It started out a lot more harsh than it.
wound up. I think we need to all remember in the context of us beginning a long detailed study
of the Bible. Peter said this. He said first he said in first Peter he said, no it's in second
Peter. First Peter said in second Peter we have the word of the prophets made.
more certain, and you can begin with Moses who wrote the book of Genesis. And you'll do well
to pay attention to it, the Bible, as a light shining in a dark place until the day dawns and
the morning star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand, not you are to,
not you should, you must understand that no prophecy of scripture, when you go back to Genesis
and the opening line of this book says, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Start there. It tells you where the cosmos came from. You either believe it or not. Some believe it. Some
don't. But Peter said, roughly by my count, about 5,000 years after
He was after that opening line in the beginning of what Moses wrote,
God created the heavens and the earth.
He said, you must understand that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.
Peter was saying Moses just didn't dream this up.
He wasn't a world traveler, jumped on a boat and looked around at the oceans.
He's fixing to talk about.
The land came up, and then there the seas.
This wasn't a world traveler.
He's just sitting out there under a tree writing down what God told him to write down.
And you're like, 5,000 years later, Peter alludes to that.
He said, you better pay close attention to it that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.
Moses didn't dream up the Genesis account.
Peter said God told him what to write down about it.
For prophecy, what we're going to be looking at from this day going forward,
never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God, Moses speaking on behalf of God,
as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
Any way you want to slice it, to write a continuum, beginning with where the cosmos came from,
before it gets to all the things you see in the cosmos and the earth,
it's pretty remarkable, I'll, that over 5,000 years of writings, the material they covered and the depth of which they went to show you a historical lineage of a people, a group of individuals, people who live by faith, the God of the cosmos of creation working in and through them, and you finally get the,
the savior of the world. Genesis 3 says he's coming. Someone from a woman will crush Satan.
And it portrays this picture cosmic struggle between good and evil. And you look at all that and
you say all these guys who sat down and the ones Peter are talking about, about 40 and all,
to come together and put a story together with this kind of breath and length with what it covers
every possible issue that you've ever entertained. Where did the cosmos come from? It answers that.
Where did we come from? It answers that. What are we doing here? It answers that. Oh, is there
way out of here? It answers that. And you just put it all together and you say, wow, it's amazing
right after that. Peter goes on to say, there were also false prophets among the people.
during these writings, just as there will be false teachers among you.
He said, a lot of falsehoods will come your way in lieu of all of these scriptures.
You will see falsehoods.
They will secretly introduce destructive heresies.
They won't hold to what's written here.
They will try to circumvent it.
Even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them, they will deny Jesus Christ.
They will scoff and laugh when they hear about someone actually bound down to him.
They'll be there, bringing swift destruction on themselves as punishment.
Many will follow their shameful ways when they twist and distort what is said in this book.
And they will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
In their greed, he mentions these people who will come up with these false,
narratives other than the Bible. They're doing it in their greed, meaning money-making enterprises.
If you look carefully at what the Democratic Party is saying to us now, I just characterize them
as false profits, because notice, Al, we'll control the climate. We literally will control the thermostat
of the earth. We can do it, and all it's going to take.
is $100 trillion.
You give that to us,
and we will control the climate,
and we won't be destroyed by the climate
in the next 11 or 12 years.
Peter covers all that about,
don't listen to him,
he ends up by saying, look,
the day of the Lord has come like a thief,
we don't know when he's coming,
but he's going to come down
and destroy this whole thing,
replace it with a new heavens and a new earth,
and the ones who have stuck to the scriptures
will be part of it,
it and will live forever, and immortality is yours.
But Peter actually supported global warming there in Second Peter III.
He actually did.
It was just at a later date.
He said, you won't global warming.
You're fixing to see it one day.
That's right.
It's all going to burn.
Well, you know what's more amazing to me is that you quoted Peter what he said about
the Bible itself and describe that, you know, 3,500-year tradition of all these different
writers that wrote the Bible.
But this is coming from a guy who was so, you know, afraid in his setting because when Jesus died that he basically turned his back.
This is one of the heroes of our book.
He turned his back on Christ, you know, and had to be reinstated, which again, I think it shows the interesting part of the Bible is the people that we look to that wrote this were flawed and talk about their, you know, humanity.
It's not like most of these things in other world religions are some prophet that's up here.
And then he, you know, passes this down to you.
The Bible.
Well, they have some narrative.
Somebody wrote.
Right.
But they don't have a book this sophisticated over four or five thousand years arrived.
That's right.
That's right.
40 different people that all seemingly has the same theme, you know, once you study it.
And that's why people, the first thing they do is attack it.
I mean, they'll take that, you'll read that passage in Second Peter and they're like,
yeah, but he wrote that.
You know, how do you know that he wrote this?
Plus, you've got to remember, you've got to remember,
and everyone needs to understand this,
because we hear all this talk of anti-Semitism,
and you'll say, I wonder why there's so many people that gather together
and they hate the Jews as much as they do.
The The Thft of America's Soul is a book about the one who stole it,
is in the process of stealing it.
You say, is the devil himself.
Well, isn't it amazing that when you look at the Bible,
all these people who wrote this out, they were all Jews.
The Jews wrote the Bible.
You're like, God worked through one group of individuals.
Abraham, the first time you see Hebrew in the Bible,
you say Abraham the Hebrew.
Well, the patriarchs, Jews,
The promises, the covenants, all Jewish.
All the prophets, Jews.
The apostles, Jews.
Jesus Christ himself, Jew.
Well, do you, if you've ever wondered, I wonder why there's this incessant,
continual attack on the Jews.
If you look at them over there, they're camped out on a little sliver of land in the
middle of, I mean, the Middle East, their enemies are all around them.
Oh, I've been there.
We got up on the top of the Sea of Galilee and our guide said, you can look right here
and there's, I think he said, 60 different terrorist groups in your vision often on that
horizon.
And here's my point, Jase.
Look, Kyle, you say, I wonder why they attack the Jews like this, the evil one working
in individuals, attack the Jews, the Jews.
well I've just told you where all these writings come from all Jewish the salvation of the of the world
Jew and Gentile remember God told Abraham all
nations will be blessed because of you right so the Gentiles were grafted in and here we are
thanking the Jews for what they brought to us and what's amazing is you're saying boy
no wonder they attack them no wonder they attack well yeah here's the deal they're still here
out.
That's right.
They're still here.
But they're thinking by doing that somehow another, it negates what the Bible says.
I mean, anything to attack.
I mean, he basically chose to dwell in a nation to show what he was like.
He wanted that relational aspect.
Everything in a Bible has its shadow from the Old Testament to the New Testament.
You know, he wanted to dwell with people.
But through that, without Jesus, obviously,
under law, it just showed the need for a Savior, which God had in mind.
And then we become Jew and Gentile, later on the New Testament, the Holy Nation of God,
which was the whole plan all along.
But people, they never get past the Old Testament.
That's why when I tell people when they say, you know, I'm going to read the Bible,
people are not familiar with it.
And I'm like, well, how about start in the book of John?
Because most books, you start in the beginning.
the problem is if you've never read the Bible, when you get to about Leviticus and Deuteronomy,
I'm out, it's scary, it's law, it's about Jews, it's confusing, they're like, well, wait a minute,
and it just showed you that you couldn't make it on your own.
We need to keep in mind as Gentiles, what the Apostle Paul told the Romans, he said,
you do not support you gentiles you don't support the root but the root the Jews supports you
you Gentiles will say but branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in a lot of them
rejected their Messiah when he came granted but they were broken off because of unbelief
and you stand you Gentiles by faith they were broken off the Jew do not be
as a Gentile being brought into the Jewish tree. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. And what's this?
For if God did not spare the natural branches, the rejection of Jesus by the Jews, he will not spare
you either. So what he's saying is the Jewish root is the root of the tree. We were branches
just grafted into the tree. Be thankful to the Jews and never maligned them. You better speak well
of them because they're the ones who brought you.
I go around and I explain, because most people look at the, you know, like me,
I thought the Bible was a rule book or perhaps the arguments I've had,
people think it's a collection of fairy tales that just happen to kind of have some way
to connect it all.
But what I learn is it's a revelation from God that reveals that he actually
desires relationships with his creation and people because it's we're made in his image so i'll explain it this
way genesis to malachi jesus is coming because the old testament proved one thing you can't keep the law
perfectly god is perfect so we have a problem so we need jesus he's coming matthew to john he's here
which his whole plan was to reveal what god was like in human form and then to
actually take care of the problem of the Old Testament. We can't keep the law, so he dies as an
innocent sacrifice. Then you got Acts to Revelation, which says he's coming back. I mean, the whole
Bible, that sums the whole thing up right there. So then that makes you think, well, why is it so
focused on Jesus? Because he is the image of the invisible God, John 117. I thought of an interesting
passage in that vein.
John, when he ran upon the Jews and John 5, he made an interesting statement because they
have put their faith and trust in Moses.
And he gets to the end in chapter 5 in verse 39.
It says, you diligently study the scriptures, which is what we're talking about,
because you think that by them you possess eternal life.
Well, when you read that, you think, well, yeah, that's what I think, just like they did.
But Jesus was chastised because of the next sentence.
These are the scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
So his point was, you can know the Bible.
You can even put your faith and trust in it.
But if you miss Jesus and the relational aspect of it, oh, you missed it.
It's like the guy who memorized the Bible.
Bible backwards, and, you know, which would be an incredible feat, which means nothing,
which is the point of Romans 9 that says, don't be arrogant about that, the way some of these
people felt, and reject to Jesus and said, no, we'll stay under the law of Moses.
And God said, oh, I'm delivering you from the law of Moses.
I'm putting you under grace.
It's not by works.
When people see that, we don't need to be, having just read what Jesus said that, it would be easy.
see, I can see how you would be mad at the Jews because they didn't embrace Jesus.
What we need to understand is we need to love all men, especially the ones who brought us,
because it seems to suggest that there would be more.
There's a lot of Jews now who are Messianic Jews who have, in fact, embraced Jesus in the United
States for sure.
And over in Israel, too.
So we need to remember those people that say, well, you know, give them some time.
That's right. Well, just, and you're right, Dad. I mean, it has to be based in the idea of loving people.
You know, what we've seen, we know some guys that are working in Athens with, you know,
there are so many refugees that came from the Middle East because basically it was, it was Islam against itself.
I mean, these people were all Muslim, but they had to go because they were being treated so badly by other Muslims.
But what we've seen is, is for the first time, there are many who have grew up and were born into Islam,
now are ready to embrace Christianity.
They're like, we found no answers there.
Throngs of them.
Thongs of them.
And again, that's not just a slam on Islam.
That's saying any world religion that doesn't understand Christ and redemption.
That's the whole thing.
You always wind up in a bad place.
And so that is what makes the Bible unique.
There's a faith aspect.
But then there's a lot of facts about the Bible that we've been talking about.
I mean, it was written over 1,600 years span.
Think about that, generations.
Oh, six?
I thought it was 4,000.
years. Well, that must history, but think about Moses came along quite a bit later. He's the first
one that wrote the penitone. So it wasn't really written over as long as you imagine that it was done.
I mean, because it was just... If you took 40 people over a 1,600 year period and just said,
write your thoughts about history and life and then you go back and read it 16,100 years later,
it would be impossible for it to have any... Can you imagine? But, Jace, look at our lifetime.
Look at how history in our own lifetime.
We're talking 50 years for dad, 70 years.
Look at now, people look back on stuff we know happen.
And they're like, well, no, that's not the way that went down.
I mean, we can't even span 100 years without a change in historical fact because it doesn't fit now the modern narrative.
That's true.
You know, we were talking about this with Disney movies.
You know, recently I ran across, it was called Song of the South.
It was really, it was Disney, but it was 19.
46. You had Uncle Remus and all these different things that are in it, things that could never be done today.
Because it's like, we don't embrace that history. That's not the way. And it was a very endearing tale about,
Uncle Remus was an awesome man that accepted everybody. But now it's like, oh, we can't talk about that.
Because that was an era of racism or whatever. So what I'm saying is we can't even live up to our own history in a hundred years.
And yet you see this spanning all these generations with all these different writers.
You know, it was a thing about it, it was 40 different authors, kings, fishermen, you know, I mean, peasants.
Yeah, people that really weren't writers.
That's right.
Yeah, this wasn't a lone individual in a cave somewhere coming up with a few musings that he's fixing to write down.
That's right.
This thing is way beyond that.
Expansive, which I think it's important because we talked a lot, you guys have both talked a lot about the faith aspect of it.
But then there's a lot of facts about the Bible and the truth of it.
Archaeologically, it continues to be the most consistent guide for archaeology.
I went to Israel.
I mean, you read, you look, you say, oh, okay.
It's not like it was, because people want to make it fantasy land.
But if you're just not a believer in God and you're looking at it without an open mind,
you just try to find something, you know, the ark wasn't big enough.
to hold all the animals or whatever they come up with.
I'm like, you know, I think they're just giving us the high points of what happened here.
But, you know, when you start looking at how they found, you know, fish fossils in weird places,
you think, well, maybe there was a flood.
But my point is you're not going to prove it anyway, but when you look at how this book has survived,
I'm pretty positive it's the number one seller of all time.
It continues to be every year.
And the people, they've tried to burn them.
You know, even Hollywood, I thought about that movie.
Are you seen that movie The Book of Eli?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's one of the most spiritual radar movies I've ever seen.
It is.
I mean, it's awesome.
Yep.
You know, he's blind, but he had the Bible in his mind.
He was carried along by the Holy Spirit.
So when these guys tried to attack him, you know, he was like the greatest fighter of all times.
He's blind.
Well, right.
God was...
And the trick on the movie was,
you didn't know he was blind until, like, at the end.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I'm ruining the movie for everybody,
but if you hadn't seen that now...
Well, you should have already seen it.
Yeah, I mean, come on.
But the point being, look,
I'll just put this group of people together
telling the same story.
Kings, philosophers, fishermen.
Just go from kings to fishermen.
You're like, what in the world?
But that's my point.
It's about some bias.
It's a letter from God that's personal.
And that's where people miss it.
They just think it's a rule book,
so they start reading and say, I don't get it.
No, it's actually about somebody that you can have a thing with.
And the people who wrote it were not like a little selected group that God had picked.
I mean, this fisherman, peasant, statesman, scholars,
all these different individuals are going to just sit down,
over 1,600 years and come up with the same story.
Yeah.
Not even being able to talk to any of them.
You know, they didn't know where interaction.
They just, the next one would come up.
He'd write some more.
And then the next one would step up and he'd write some more.
And you end up and read it and say, man, you talk about the greatest story ever told.
How in the world did they do that?
It would take divine intervention.
We mentioned Peter and his lack of character.
And then he became the pillar, literally.
was the first guy that preached the first gospel sermon.
Well, think about the other, the most prominent writer, probably in the entire Bible, Paul.
A murderer.
A murderer, a terrorist.
And look, and was a Jesus, and you mentioned, you know, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Jesus was constantly chastised in the Pharisees because they missed it.
They did know the scripture, but they didn't know him.
Well, that's who Paul was, too.
This guy was a converted Pharisee.
He called himself the Pharisee of Pharisees.
So your main star was your biggest enemy when Jesus was on?
I mean, it's what I'm saying.
It blows your mind.
But even that makes me think of that verse,
even the evil one himself,
where's the verse where he said he masquerades as an angel of light
and his servants as angels of righteousness?
What's that?
Second Corinthians?
I mean, you tend to think of the evil and the devil out there in the world
and some kind of sinful.
But he actually masquerades.
a lot of times in religion itself.
And when you see what Jesus had the most problem with,
it was religious people.
Even when I was in Israel,
once we crossed that border,
we went into Bethlehem,
and there's a guy down there who's following Jesus
and pretty well surrounded by Muslims.
And we get to the,
and that we didn't meet on a Sunday morning
because they said,
you know, you got a pretty good chance
of getting bombed if you meet on Sunday morning.
they changed it up, which I'm looking around like, well, what are we doing here?
So we got in there.
The first thing he said, they had just remodeled the place because they had their 14th bombing.
They survived their 14th bombing.
Then I was really looking around like, what are we doing here?
Netanyahu said this a square mile here is probably the most dangerous piece of real estate on
the planet.
Yeah, but it's in the name of religion, you know.
but he said this guy the preacher they had tried to kill him on several occasions he took five
bullets in the chest and lived well it scared him because then they thought i mean if the man
survived five bullets maybe he is with god you know and then america found out about him so now
they don't want to you know make america mass so they're kind of leaving him long they're doing
other things that are less violent so he said what they started doing is every time they
would have the service they would pull up with loud speakers
and drown him out.
You know, he's preaching, and they're playing these, you know,
all whatever the, you know, their religion is.
And so he said, I didn't know what to do.
I was stressed out about it.
I was talking to God about it.
And he said, and then I was praying one night, and he said,
and God answered my prayer.
It was by bigger speakers.
And so now he has speakers on the side of that church building that go for five miles,
the sound travels.
He's one of the most courageous people I've ever met in my life.
He's not getting off Jesus.
He believes in the resurrection strong enough that he thinks any day here
could be my last day,
but he's right in the middle of a religious sect of people
who loathe Jesus and him.
But he said he's got about five bullets in the chest,
and he's still kicking.
That's a good sign.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
I think they may be right.
God's got some use for him yet.
Well, you know, one of the things that I love about,
I got a lot of times people, I met with a guy just this past week,
and he was from the Northeast originally.
And he said something really interesting.
He was a big fan of our show, and, you know, he was telling me why.
But he said, he was telling me about his own background,
but I found this to be fascinating.
He said, you know, in our home, we went to church, you know,
mass for them every week.
He said, but in our home, we never,
prayed. We never talked about the Bible. We never had community, was the way he described it, as a family. He said, we went, you know. It was almost like it wasn't a punch card, but it felt that way. But it was never real to it. So then he happened across our show as an adult. And he said, the first thing I noticed about your family was the community aspect. He said, and of course you prayed on the show. You talked about the Bible quite frequently, even during episodes.
And he was just drawn to that.
And so it got me thinking about how sort of we came to love the scriptures themselves.
I mean, I remember I was growing up, Jason, you and I spent a lot of time with dad's parents, our grandparents.
And they would always have the Bible out.
And they would just be reading it.
And then we were just kids, you know, we were there.
And we began to engage in discussion with our grandparents about the scripture.
And you do the same thing now.
And we have a gathering.
Dad usually gets his Bible out or quotes a verse.
We did this just recently.
We're all together at Thanksgiving and Christmas and gives us a little biblical charge,
you know, and there's all the grandkids listening.
So you think about that same generational passing along of the stories,
which gave us the Bible itself and the Holy Spirit was doing it,
was the same thing that really our particular family, I think, gave us that love for Scripture.
You know, I mean...
I think the people that argue against the Bible and Christianity,
they haven't really read the Bible.
I mean, when I first considered this, I thought, I'm going to read this Bible and try to get around it.
Because I thought it was a collection of fairy tales.
I mean, because deep down I wanted to do whatever the heck I wanted to do.
So, you know, I was young coming up.
I saw, you know, you change your life, Phil, but I was like, I mean, how do you know which religion is right?
There's hundreds, if not thousands.
Everybody has different interpretations.
but the more I study, once I started that, trying to prove it wrong,
I was just shocked at how geographically, historically,
even from a science perspective, just how solid this book is, you know, archaeology.
I mean, everywhere I went, I was like, huh, wow, huh.
And then when you see how good as far as, you know, nothing that Jesus Christ represented on earth,
nothing was bad.
Nothing.
But people always,
they, people who are against the Bible,
they tell these wars to religion and all,
but people do that.
You know,
the spiritual forces of evil do that.
When you just take what he represent
and what he said,
it's all good.
Everything's good.
That's right.
You got four books there to choose from,
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
I mean, and everybody would agree
that it's all good,
even people that don't believe.
It's like, is it a good idea?
you know, not to murder your neighbor or, you know, not to commit a belliger.
That's why Peter said you remember from the baptism of John how Jesus went around doing good
and delivering all those who were under the control of the evil one.
That basically is what he did.
Went around doing good.
I tell people all the time, just when you say, well, you must walk as Jesus did.
I said, all he's saying is you get up in the morning and you go around wherever you're going.
and you do good for crying out loud.
How hard could it be?
That makes me think of the last verse in the book of John
is an interesting verse
because when you start thinking the Bible's a big book,
and it is, and there's only four letters about Jesus,
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
but John, I mean, I think this is kind of a humorous statement,
but it makes you realize on what could have been written.
He says, Jesus did many other things as well.
If every one of them were written down,
I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
I mean, it's not that we got everything he's capable of or he did.
When you're a supernatural being, you created everything,
you can do all these things that we would deem impossible, really impossible.
He can do, create man from dust, et cetera, et cetera.
well, the world is not big enough to hold the books that that's why heaven and the eternal life is so intriguing to me,
because people are like, what are we going to do?
You're not thinking big enough.
You know, if we can't, if there's not enough room to hold the books on what he's capable of,
well, the same thing applies to what we'll be able to do in the next life.
We're just with our little finite brain.
Beyond comprehensive.
Yeah, it's hard to get an image of God.
That's why there's so much argument about the Bible and God
because people really can't relate.
That's why you had to become a human in Jesus.
You start trying to relate.
You're going to start arguing because your mind can't compute.
And that's when you get into all the things that we're going to talk about next time
about how did God create this, how old is the earth,
and all these things that we try to figure out,
why does this work this way?
Because our finite mind just can't grasp it.
That's why he had to become a human.
And that's why at some point God knew that what he provided would be enough.
Because people say, what if there's more?
John just said there's more.
Oh, way more.
But 66 books condensed into one narrative was enough to tell the whole story.
And you think about Jesus, you mentioned that.
I mean, John made that statement, which is, you're right, it's almost like, it's almost, you know, hyperbole comical.
Because you think about Jesus was only here 33 years.
And he only did ministry.
For three.
I mean, the first 30 are kind of a mystery.
We don't know because he was a rabbi.
You know, you don't know much about him.
That's what's so annoying to me.
You know, people, especially in the religious world, they stay away from Revelation
because they're like, what in the world?
Or you had these crazy ideas.
You know, people read the book of Revelation.
They're like, whatever that is, you know, I'm out because it scares them.
They don't know what it is.
But most people say, and you've heard me say as far as a pet peeve of mine,
they call it Revelations.
I was reading over in Revelations.
It's like all these things are going to happen,
but it's actually Revelation.
And the first three verses says,
whose it is, it's Jesus.
There's nothing to be scared of.
Whoever coined that phrase about Revelation was right.
It's pretty simple when you just look at the bare facts.
There's two teams, God's team, the other team.
God's team wins.
Don't be stupid.
Get on the right team.
It wins.
even though it looks like it may not be winning because there's martyrs.
The evil one is killing.
They're battling the Roman Empire at the time.
Yeah, I mean, okay, yeah.
But you just think about it.
When you're following and serving a being that prove death is not a problem,
get on his team.
Put your faith and trust in him.
Which, by the way, that same simple logic does pretty well in our current struggle.
You know, we in this cultural battle and we think, oh, no, what's going to happen?
is like, well, there's two teams.
Yeah, that's right. There's good and there's evil.
Yeah, it's interesting in the first paragraph of Revelation.
It's the revelation of Jesus Christ's what God gave him to show his service.
Open in line, what must soon take place.
That's once.
This is fixed to happen shortly.
It's at hand.
Then he said he made it known by sending his angel to his server, John, who testified
to everything you saw that is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Bless that is the one who reads the words of this,
privacy and blessed of those who hear it and take it to heart what is written in it because the time
for these things to happen is near what if you say the first two the first paragraph what i'm fixing
to relay to you john said this this is fixing to happen quickly and he wrote to seven churches you
would think you wouldn't be going way to predict the future in the book of revelation if you read
that first paragraph so there's been more books written and and i tell people because
they're like, well, what's all that about?
And I'm like, two-thirds of the book of Revelation
is other verses
in the rest of the Bible.
That's right.
People are like, what?
Yeah.
It was, he just took it from, you know, somewhere else,
but when you get it all together in that,
what they call apocalyptic writing,
where it's more a picture than the words,
which is what I think's cool about the Bible.
You got some books that are written like a letter,
like a book.
then you have Revelation, it's written in a picture form.
It's giving you a picture.
So what we do is we look at a, just imagine a painting,
and you take one little aspect of the painting and try to figure out what the heck's that that's about
instead of getting the grasp of it, which is, oh, you win just like you do in the other 65 books.
Whatever this is relating to and to those seven churches in the book of Revelation,
they win in Jesus.
That's it.
You lose without him.
And there's poetry, there's history.
I mean, the Bible itself contains so many different genres that people love.
And I love.
Even like Psalms, you know.
It's just such a, it's so unique how it's written.
And look, there's so many wise sayings in Psalms and Proverbs that you hear in movies,
that you hear people say it.
They don't realize it's in the Bible.
I've been reading them lately, the first five, six chapters of Proverbs.
it's the greatest
bits of information
as far as wisdom
and the application of the scriptures
and how you live
and fear of God
the beginning of wisdom, you know?
Don't be a fool, say.
You want to make America moral again
study the Proverbs.
Even the song of Solomon,
people, they read that, you know,
kid snicker, it's talking about, you know,
sex and women's breasts and, you know,
there'll be people, you know,
saying, oh, I need to read it.
read the book of Song of Solomon.
What they forget, I mean, God ate us male and female.
Sex was his idea.
It's a beautiful thing.
If you want to make America moral again, Al, don't listen to sneaky Joe Biden.
Listen to Solomon.
That's right.
Well, there you go.
We've come full circle on this episode.
We started with Sleepy Joe.
We ended with sneaky Joe.
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