Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 306 | Jase's 5 Reasons He Wouldn't Want to Live Forever & Why Jesus Doesn't Need a Spaceship

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

Phil and Jase believe Jeff Bezos couldn't possibly spend $200 billion when he retires, and they discuss whether or not the Amazon founder has found a way to live forever. Jase and Al talk about golfing with Cole, Reed, and Jep during their family beach vacation. Phil offers a reminder that “there’s a guy who showed up who can give you immortality, and you don’t have to get on a spaceship.” And the guys list five reasons people don’t want to live forever. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Sam, they're going to be thinking they're not they're not theologians. I've never claimed to be a theological. These guys sound like rednecks. I don't know. I've never claimed to be a theologian either. But, you know, I have been studying for 30 plus years. I would ask you. Almost 40. I would ask you what you did for the fourth, but I was with you. You were. In fact, we were, we were.

So we had our little get-together. I guess, Dad, you were celebrating solo. I was celebrating all y'all leaving and going to the beach with the old women. I was saying, I'll just hang around here. Stone stepped up and cooked my meals for a week. Yeah, how was that? So you had your personal cook and ballet, Jay Stone, stay with you. He would come in and he would tell me what the menu was.

This afternoon we'll have, we're starting at 12 o'clock, but we'll have a pork loin, smoked pork loin. Then he'd say we're having, you know, baby back ribs. Then, you know, steak. He was pretty heavy on the meat line, I know. He does. He does. He's not very big on the veggies.

No, he's, he got into the keto deal when he lost all his weight. And so he's mostly meat. He's a meat. It's like he. cooked Kay's baked beans last night, but he said, I took out, she put sugar in the beans. He said, I took that out. He made it more carb friendly. Well, I didn't know.

He just told me that. But he did add a lot of bacon in there. Some of them like them a little sweet. Some of them don't. So he cooked ribs last night for we had a little get together at the house. Tony's and Phyllis's son and daughter were down last week, which you got to spend some time with Grant and Julie, right? Yep, they were in and out for about a week.

Yeah, which was good. And so we were making fun of you, Dad, because we were saying the ribs. A loud. We were eating the ribs, and somebody said, well, these are tender. And so somebody started saying, too tender, too tender. Well, the first time, Jay, the, you remember that first,

the first time he got a 55-gallon drum that he's smoking all this meat in. Yeah, and he calls it the trash can. Yeah, you think it's something extravagant. I mean, because the man can grill. And when you go out there and look, he's just got a barrel. And they're just hanging over the side of the inside the barrel. And so the first time he did that, he rolled out the ribs down there. So everybody's looking at Phil, because Phil, since you don't have a filter,

you're going to tell people what you really think. So he's a little bit nervous. Yeah. And so he took a bite and he went, nope. I was thinking, what could be wrong with this? Because I was eating it thinking, he went, nope. too tender to tender which is something i've never heard before how do you i'm going to have to disagree

with you on that one phil i don't think you can make a rib too tender so we last night jay had each and had little signs that his daughters had made which had the degrees of spicy and the degrees of tender and so he had five he had five he had five plates or dishes that had different racks of ribs anywhere from spicy to tender to medium to medium to tough because he's like this is the feel section he likes to gnaw on the bone and it kind of made me think that it's just hard to please everybody that's true well we had some of the some of the older ladies there at our deal last night too so you always got to watch out for then with the spice and all that stuff.

So it was good. It was a good little, I thought it was a good little get together. You would, I thought it was interesting on the beach that Miss Kay, you know, she's recovering from her bout with Bobo. And she's doing quite well because a lot of you're asking. She's, she's healing up quite nicely. But I noticed that her and her sister are Ann Ann, they basically are just, they just step out of the house.

onto the deck that's covered and they just that's their place now so we and i walked out and they were just sitting there like they were on their beach they're close to it it's just right there yeah it's close and i thought you know because they they don't have to walk in the sand and you know they kind of get into that they looked at me i looked at them because i was thinking oh this is your spot and i said i guess you reach a certain age where just the idea of being on the beach is this is this close as you can get. Because she obviously couldn't get out in the sun and all. But so everybody, she's just looking at everybody.

What are they? 50 yards away. Yeah, about 50 yards. On the beach, but you're in the, the next. The more information coming forth from your lips is, is pretty good proof of why I don't do beaches. What you could sit up there with the old ladies and just watch.

Well, we had a pretty private. house so i thought you know i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead and do it i finally reached a level where i'm just not embarrassed anymore so i basically mellowed jace i've mellowed so i thought you know what i'm fixed a metal to take this beach so i went out there long pants shirt i didn't want to get sunburned oh he looking about the way i do now he was fully camo i saw him i got there that morning you're out there who is who is what are you find who's the homely hunter on the beach surprisingly so so here's the story i walk out there and I'm, be, beep, beep, beep, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, I'm like, because I can't hear you. It scared me, I jump. And I'm like, they're like, jays?

I'm like, how are all these people? It was private, there's nobody around. Well, what I didn't realize is my lovely wife takes a picture of me. Oh, no. Not on the beach. Oh, no. And puts it on social media, because people kept coming up. No. So I got back. That's a DED. When I got back in there, I was like, you know, because I didn't know who did

that. But they said, I saw where you had posted that you were doing this. And I said, well, how could I have taken a picture? I'm having an argument with all these people. I said, how could I have taken the picture? Because one of them pulled it up and it was me from somebody had taken a picture because I was thinking, what idiot would take a picture? And so when I walked in, I said, what idiot would take a picture of me doing this on the beach? And your wife had to speak up. Yeah, and she said, well, I took a picture, and none of these people would have known where we're at on the beach. Wrong.

I said, but they just did over and over. But I said all this to say, because I was having a bad attitude about it, and to answer your question, I found lots of change. I mean, lots, but nothing was old. I mean, I had my pockets were full. Every time I'd take a step, just clank, clank, clank. These in the penny line, the dime. The dime lines, quarters, dimes, nickels, but nothing old.

So it seems like to me there's a lot of people. You realize when you're scroungs around the beach picking up loose chains, you're right there. You're right there with the, you know. I'm pretty close. You're a 10 cup and a sign away from being on a corner. It's basically a different form of being homeless. Because that's, but you can make way more change there. And so after a while, I thought I'd found a cannonball or something.

something I dug this four-foot hole, but it turned out just to be a weight that you weighted down like an umbrella or something, which is a cool weight. It's in the back of my truck right now. Of course, when you get close to the end of either Fort Morgan or Gulf Shores, those strips there, there's a likely chance you would find something because there was a lot going on there during Civil War. I mean, there was a lot coming into the Mobile Bay. They used to have a, like in World War I and two, there was a big base there to

protect that's what got me out there and I found nothing well I'm sure it's been looked over all right yeah so but I did have a great conversation and I wanted to mention this is I saw I'm on the beach metal detecting my wife has let everyone know in the world that I'm out there but these three young ewes come up there of course I'm got my head down I just look up there's there's two guys and a girl look like teenagers just looking at me. So I shut my machine off. I'm like, howdy?

And this one guy, he said, Jace, I was like, yep. He's like, well, we thought that was you. And I was like, yeah, who else would look like this? And they said, no, we saw it on social media. I was like, oh, yeah, okay. But he said, I just wanted to come over and ask you to tell me about Jesus. I thought, now this is the kind.

of interaction. He was seeking another kind of treasure. Well, right. Samuel. Are you listening? And so first Samuel? That's Samuel over there. He wanted to find out of it.

We have a guest. He came down. Fresh out of the river where it was baptized this morning. All right. Samuel showed up early. So I, you know, started with the metal detecting and with the Luke 15, something I've done before on why Jesus was interacting. with tax collectors and sinners and he tells the three stories and what since i was metal

detected and then i made the spiritual parallel god looking for us and that was kind of my he asked about jesus so that's what i that's what i went with but i thought you know this is this is good i like for for people to to walk up and and want to know about jesus course he had listened to the podcast um but i said what about your life and he's like well, I went to high school, football player, you know, went through all that. And he said, and basically I went to college, and it was just two years on the party scene. That's what he called it, the party scene. I said, well, where did that get you?

And he said, standing on the beach asking about Jesus. What just happened? Yeah. What are you doing? I'm fresh out of college. Okay. Yeah. So that was the most positive thing I saw.

So Jason and I, we played golf four days in a row. We did two podcasts from the golf course. We were zooming in with you, Dad. And by the way, the folks at Peninsula were great and great host. You treated us great. And so we're playing golf with the young bucks. We're playing with Cole and Reed and Jepico. I didn't know you were going to bring this up, but I'm glad you did because there was a moment on day four.

Or you had it on day three. But our young bucks now are in their 20, early 20s. And they're in their shape where they could just run through a wall. In fact, the first day after we played 18, they said, y'all want to play another nine? You know, for. And I said, absolutely not. Which we used to be like them. So, you know, let's play some more.

Let's play some more. But were you getting to my injury? Yeah. Well, I was just going to say, we started out decent the first day or two, but then the injuries began to mount. I hurt my elbow. But I started coming on back to my old self in round two and three. You did notice that.

And I beat everybody on like round three. And I thought, you know what? I still got back. And I laid it in the bed that night thinking, you know, I thought it was over, but I think I'm back. All this is under the guys of fun. Yeah, it's fun. So we get there the fourth day, which turned out to be our last day. and so we decided to switch up teams.

We had actually been very competitive all week, and Cole was playing really good. And so we call it, you leave it up to the golf guides, who the teams are going to be. So you throw all the balls up, and wherever they land, that's who's on team.

So it wound up being reading Cole, the young bucks, against me, Jace, and Jeff, who are now the old men. And so we were like, oh, we can take these. I mean, you know, I was injured.

I actually thought it wasn't fair. because I thought it's three on two. And I had been playing awesome the day before. They had been, they showed flashes of greatness, but too immature, too trying to overpower the golf course. I thought, no, we're fixed. So the competitive juices began to kick in, but me and Jay's both were wearing down as the round went on.

They were coming on strong. We're down five at the turn. Down five at the turn. And so then I thought, you know, my back's against the wall. I've got to make a move. And I think I was on like hole 12. And I swung my driver in just a pain. Went all the way down to my ankles from my back.

And how was I done or was I done? And I was too. And the jet was playing terrible. So we just limped in. They want all the money just throttled us. We'd actually shot like 74. I mean, I thought what happened, but when I looked at the scores, he was 100 at the turn. I was like, the dude shot 74.

They just outplayed us, even if we'd have been playing our best. Literally just beat us into the dogs. Yeah. So we left there saying this is no country for old men. That's how we left the, we left the whole thing. It was terrible. Yeah. Old age, it's creeping in.

Creeping in. Let's take a break. Well, it made me think what's interesting now is that, you know, old age, we just, joke about it. We make fun of other people. Because we laugh, you know, in our family, we tend to laugh at other people's misery and it, for some reason, we don't find it offensive. It's funny. Yeah. But I saw this Jeff Bezos. You know, he stepped down. Jeff Bezos. So he owns Amazon. He owns Amazon. Yeah. Phil, do you know who Jeff Bezos is? He does now. I've heard his name. mentioned but he owns Amazon, which makes him the probably the richest man in the

world. I think he's worth 200 billion. Yeah, 200 billion. Two hundred billion? With a B. Well, that's why I don't know about all. I don't run with people worth 200 billion. Yeah. So here's why I'm bringing him up. I found this interesting. I'm like, what do you do with $200 billion when you basically step down me? Do you retire? So here's what he's into, which I found interesting, and we can discuss this. is that first of all, he's in the space travel. And he has, I guess this is a ship they have, the blue origin, or I don't know if it's a company.

I never got that far. But they auctioned off the seat beside him for the space travel at a cool $28 million. And I brought this up before, $28 million, just to have the seat beside Jeff Bezos and they're going to go Star Trek. Are they going into space? They're going into space. Okay. So that's number one. Does any of this seem to have gone to his head?

Number two, they're funding labs along with about a hundred other tech companies, you know, Google and it just go down the list. Because they've run up on a cell called the synolytic cell that they figured out if we can get these out of our bodies. and the article I read said this is what it said science has perhaps found a way to live forever well I clicked on that somebody that's funny you said you know what and look I noticed that on June 25th they made a pretty well a media blitz to try to get people to donate to these labs of which Bezos

is funding. And I thought, what is the groundbreaking evidence that they found because there's excitement here? They're trying to get people to pour money into these science labs because they perhaps found a way to live forever. I was like, ooh, what's happened? Well, they had some mice, and a couple of them, they restored the vision of a couple mice, which I kept reading for something else, but that was pretty well it.

So they said we got a couple blind mice. I'm not making this up. Two blind mice that they restored their vision. But I thought, well, haven't human beings been working in the eye vision world to, haven't we done that before? I think so. I mean, yeah, I've said. Okay.

Well, I just wasn't sure. I don't know that we peel blind people, but yeah, there's been some work. So here's what you probably see where I'm going with this. Because I thought you got $200 billion. You think, you know, you figured out how to settle a bunch of crap all over the nation through Amazon. And you become one of the most powerful people on the earth. And you begin to realize you're going to die. That's it.

You're like, well, what do I do with all this money? Well, you basically look around at the planet and think, this is probably not going to be here that long. and you look at your body and say, this is probably not going to be here that long. And so you've got to try to figure out how to either leave or how to extend your life. Well, in the course of me doing all this research, because I got into this,

I spent about three hours reading up on all this stuff. And they, you know, they found this company called Unity Biotech, you know, where they said that they might, get you 150 years. But through generations, they believe that perhaps you can get to live forever. I mean, the title says, look, science found a way to live forever. But when you start reading in the details, they're like maybe 150 years, if we're lucky.

But here's what I found fascinated. And this is what I want to get y'all's attention on. I told Al before we started, I said, I want to get your attention on this. Because throughout the message boards on this media blitz about science finding the way to live forever, You know what surfaced was a lot of the people who are not believers. They didn't like the idea of living forever. And here were the five reasons that popped up in the message boards. Do you got to remember, I'm now in a place where it's not really believers.

They have this exciting new drug that may or may not find a way to stop aging. So the number one thing was, well, where are we going to live? If you find a way to live forever, because it's even like we started talking about July 4th and all this, these are the same people that I noticed because it happened to be around July 4th. They were also against fireworks because they say, well, it destroys the environment. So no fireworks. No fireworks. So these are the people that says, okay, the earth, you know, it's deteriorating.

So if you have a drug, that we can live for that, where are we going to live? Which leads to the space travel, I guess, Bezos. We've got to find another planet to live on, because,

you know, we're destroying this one. That's the mindset. The quest for immortality, I would think this is rich ground. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time. This was all worked out in advance,

but no scientist needed. But it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior. That's 2,021 years ago. I'm reading from 2. Timothy 1, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel. Now, it's a simple statement. It's either a crock and a bunch of bull, or it's true. I'm looking at this thinking, you don't need $200 billion to figure this out. Yeah. You can just say, well, I went through the fifth grade, and someone told me that this person named Jesus Christ showed up and took away my sins and gave me, guess what, life beyond the grave.

And amazingly, it's free. So I don't know how that would stick with them, but I would think at some point, the Bezos types of people that you're described there, we helped make him that $200 billion a little bit. He sells their, I mean, he moves our duck calls, doesn't he? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Amazon. They sell.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Wasn't it like this was some, he just took stuff. I called it crap. So I would say, Jeff, I would say Jeff, Mr. Bezos, remember, we're helping you become a billionaire, $200 billion. We have to do that, rednecks. He was retired.

Well, I don't know. Go to your kin folks. They might go to your kin folks. But we're trying to help you be a very wealthy man. But while we're at it, there's a person who showed up who can give you immortality, Jeff. And it's free, dude. You don't have to get on the spaceship. That's where I was going with.

Well, you know what the number two deterrent for their drug to live forever was? No. One is where we're going to live. Yeah, where are we going to live? Which what I'm saying is we have that covered. There's a little place called heaven. I know we hadn't been there. New heavens and a new earth come in the home of righteousness.

That's where you live. We've answered these problems. But what I thought was fascinating is that they, all the reasons that Jesus is so appealing, they're living out these problems in message boards and space travel and different things. Well, number two was, and these weren't a lit, I compiled this list based on reading all the message boards on the article. Right. I thought the number two thing was, this kept coming up. Well, if you alleviate death and suffering, then there's no material for William Shakespeare, Beethoven.

They had all these people. And even a scientist said this, or the New Testament. He used, if you take that away, well, then, I mean, you've got to realize we wouldn't have material like Shakespeare. I thought, what's going on here? And they even brought up the New Testament. They're like, we need this for music and art and motivation. Death, you mean? Death and suffering.

Man, what a way to view. Well, that's a really interesting take there. Look, I didn't go into it with any kind of agenda. I just noticed it kept coming up because I thought, well, wait a minute. When you come up on me, you use that as an excuse. Because wasn't that your, when people search, you did the few weeks ago, you did the people search for who's God or whatever? Exactly.

And one of the first things was why is there human suffering? Why does God hate me? Yeah. Why? That's the argument why they're not coming. But when they have a drug, the magic pill, then all of a sudden they're like, yeah, I don't know if I really want to live forever anyway. Because I'm writing a lot of good material about people bouncing.

bouncing back from death and suffering or right and you say bouncing back like from a death of a loved one or look I'm not here to judge I'm just here to report so that was number two which I found fascinating number three was overpopulation they're like well then we would have to we got to figure out what we're going to do it there's going to be too many people so there'll be no procreation which which you know where I'm going with that which when the guys came up to j Jesus, where's that, Matthew 22, maybe, where he says, they say, well, what happens if a guy's married seven times or woman is married seven times? Whose husband will she be at the resurrection? And the same issue that happened 2,000 years ago in a conversation with Jesus. Of course, Jesus, he didn't really explain it, but he just said, you don't know the power of God or the scriptures that people will need. be given in marriage at the resurrection. So he's already got that taken care of somehow. So I thought that was fascinating.

Number four was just plain out boredom. And it came up over and over. And they're like, well, I mean, what are we going to do? I mean, after a while, you would just get bored. Which I thought, yeah. Because if you really, when you look at our lives, what is our purpose for being here? I think my purpose for being here is God,

using me despite my flaws to share Jesus to the world just like that beach when those three came up. For 40 years I've been telling people based on my look at the big picture on your item number four there, it gets so

bored. Peace of mind is a rare commodity among human beings, peace of mind. And they think well if I could live forever after about you know, a couple of million years, I'm going to be bored with that. That's it. That was the thought.

Yeah. Yeah. Therefore, it'd be better. I'd be better off dead. I guess it's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, hope is a dangerous thing. Hey, I was fascinated. I'm telling you. Let's take another break. Let me read that verse, as I found it. You're right. Matthew 22, 29. So when they asked him about these, who would she be married to in heaven? You're an error, Jesus said, because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God, which is what a statement. At the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. They will be like the angels in heaven.

But about the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what God said to you? I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Yeah. That was his answer back to him. Yeah. Yep. You don't understand.

They supposedly had died in God's eyes. He said, no, they're not dead. They're still alive. Which is really the whole point about this, Jay, is that we understand the process of eternal life actually begins once we die to sin. Even though we're still going to face physical death unless he comes back first, the process has already started. And the Holy Spirit is the deposit guaranteeing the inheritance of eternal life.

So from God's perspective outside of time, which is what Jesus is talking about, he already knows the whole thing. It's why he says it's a- The last thing on planet earth that I would be singing the blues about is, oh, good night. Looks like I've come out of this thing, immortal. That's a bummer. Yeah. Well, you know what was strange is- I can't see it. Is the fifth thing, which was the irony of having a lack of purpose.

me if you wanted a title, I would say that. But it was all these people saying our whole purpose now is to find a way to live forever. That's what the whole article was about or space travel or there's, like I said, hundreds of these high-powered tech companies funneling all this money into these science labs trying to find a drug that stops aging. Well, that's their purpose. but if you if you figured that out they were like well then we would have no purpose or a plan or a place what they we don't have a purpose a plan or a place what they miss is

Samuel is seated over here fresh out of the waters the baptism so that happened the hour ago so there he sits I'm I'm very motivated and I'm very happy to know that he found immortality. That's right. It was about him this morning. That's right. And you said, well, you were pointing him to the one who could give him life and immortality like the Apostle Paul said to Timothy.

Well, yeah, I found one this morning. You said he just come out, just showed up. Been around here for a while, but somebody was trying to run around him up and find out what exactly is going on. But now he found life and immortality, and I'm fired up about it. and it was for him. I think we never delve so deep is to get beyond ourselves when you get to talk like a Jeff Bezos, Jay's.

Well, I think the problem is, it's our brains can't. It's selfish ambition. Yeah, our brains can't deal with just being, just being. So when Jesus said, you know, his famous nickname is I am, before Abraham was, I am. Where is that? John 80, said that. Hebrews 13, 8.

He's the same yesterday, today, and forever. So evidently, when the Holy Spirit that's inside us resurrects our body and we go through this transformation process, time is no longer a factor. So it's not like you're getting bored or you're waiting. You just are. Because you're like, Jesus. Many people go across through these United States,

of America looking for places of beauty and they'll hold some back, began with old Teddy Roosevelt, began to hold large expanses back undisturbed so people can go to them, drive up, get their camera, and take pictures of them. See what they look like. But I'm saying that perhaps there's a vehicle immortality so that you could just go across a very large cosmos and view a lot of other planets 10 times the size of Earth, a thousand times of size. And you can say, check this one out. Take a look at this one. What about that one? And you can just move along and travel as long as you wanted to. Immortality is yours. Can you imagine

what you would see by just traveling out through the cosmos? Oh, yeah. But the only way you could travel long distances, you would have to have improvements on your body. Yeah, that's what the resurrection is all about it. By the time you get- A glorified body, you said glorified, glorified, what, it's a dimension that's a whole other dimension. If you had the power to just go through doorways called dimensional, you know, we talk about 3D, I think they've identified in a 12 dimensions now, but there's way more. Yep.

And so you can just step in. into here and you're show up somewhere else. You know, the science fiction. I personally think it would be a pretty good bunch of fun. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't mind it. Taking a little zip around the, you know. Around the cosmos.

See what's happening? Let's take another break. One thing is interesting, to your point, which is excellent, is that God said he did have a plan before he created it. So from a biblical perspective, there was always a plan. Yep. Which then gave mankind a purpose from the beginning on. And there's a place.

He said, you know, I got it covered. So all the answers they don't have for trying to increase this lifespan, he already had laid out. Yeah, that's what I found fascinating is one of their rules that got or foundations that started this venture is that they found like a turtle or a shark that was 400 years old and they're like well the law the way they put it was the law of biology is not applying to this shark or this turtle this thing's 400 years old so how if that's possible then we got a so they're studying the shark and the turtle thinking well there's something

in their cells so what they're looking at I'm like what gave him 400 years that's right and so they're like let's test this on these poor mice because you know the a lot of them, they're just killing. Well, that didn't work. Get some more mice. Oh, we healed too. They can see. We're on to something.

But I thought it was pretty barbaric and brutal that, you know, they're killing a lot of mice during these testing procedures, which what happened to all this? Oh, we're just one big creation in happy la la land, you know. But they're trying to find that different avenue, which to finish my point, which I think is God's way in through creation to show us that, yes, there is. Since he's a creator, you do see things that doesn't make sense about life.

And you're like, oh, there's possible if you can make find the creators. See to it, Paul told the Colossians, that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principle of this world rather than on in Christ. So you read that and you say, there's a lot of hollow and deceptive philosophy floating around out there out. It's a train load. So the Bible, the Bible deals with age span because when you read the first six chapters

of Genesis, the early people, and I think it's because whatever they, were eating in that fruit supplied them with like superhuman genetics that allowed them. Because some of the animal world too. They live a thousand years. The animal world too. Right. Everything live longer and grew bigger. So they so they're living 900 plus years. Well then the flood happens and we get back down. We reboot the earth with one family. Yep. And God says, all right, we're not having the low lifespan anymore. Now it's going to be about 150 years. Most of those patriarchs. Yep. You know, that's how long Abraham lived. You know, that's Noah lived about 150 years,

which is kind of interesting that that's the number, Jace, that they're saying they can get back to. But then you read along in Psalms and guys said, no, it's too long. We're going to cut it back some more. You know, now David said... Where's that at? It said three score and ten.

It was Psalm 90, where he says, you know, 70 years, 80 if you have some strength. Yep. You know, so that's now the new normal, which is exactly what we are. From the scientific angle of that, he was probably limiting the scinalytic cells that were being produced in your body through the eating of the fruit on the tree. Yeah. And so I'm like, I got an answer for you. That's it.

That's it. Which, again, the science of what they're talking about lines up perfectly with God saying, hey, I am science. I am science. He's the author of science. The whole thing. What's fascinating on some of that was some of the other scientists commented on the scientist articles, we're like, DNA's the key.

They're having these discussions. They're like, it all comes back down to DNA. And I'm like, oh, so now you're claiming that as something you came up with, this sophisticated code that's in our bodies that you had absolutely nothing to do with. You just observed that there's a code in each of our cells. And you're like, that's the key. That's it. So I'm like, but you didn't create.

that DNA. You're just observing the DNA. They're like, yeah. If we can change that DNA, I'm like, well, how about just write one yourself? Put it in a little package, then put it in your body. And if you can come up with that, and they're like, well, hundreds of years from now, maybe we can. And then we can live for it. But that's why the tech industry is the ones that think they can do it. Oh, that's right. Because they write code for the computer. So they're like, well, we can come up with all this stuff. Surely we can come up with a code to extend human life and all that. I mean, that's their thought process. What this conversation is leading to is there are some erroneously saying, we are God.

That's right. That's basically what. That's their message. That's what $200 billion. Follow us. You know, we are God. This immortality thing, it's a little tricky, but we'll figure it out. But doesn't that line up with the-

We can do anything? Doesn't that line up with the first lie? that Satan said, you will not surely die, you will be like God. I mean, that's what he told Eve, right? I mean, so the whole thing, we come forward in 5,000 years. Selfish ambition runs far and runs wide. It does. I think it comes back down to when in Matthew 19, a guy came up to Jesus,

and he said, what good thing must I do to get eternal life? and Jesus, you know, has this conversation about the commandments. Give up the 200 billion there, Chip. Yeah, he got to the end and he said, I'll tell you what. Sell the 200 billion, give it all away, and come follow me. And he's like, but that's how I was going to be the most powerful thing on earth. That's right. And what I find fascinating is, because then he gets.

into this conversation with the disciples and they start talking about how hard it is for a rich person to go to heaven and obviously they looked up they looked at this guy and thought well he's way better than us right you know they're kind of a rag tag group you know because they're just like I mean if he can't if he can't get this done who who you know that's the way that's the way they took it but just before you read that let's take a break so he gets to 25 and he says well who then the disciples said, well, who then can be saved? Jesus looked at them and said, this is Matthew 1926, with man, this is impossible. But with God all things.

Jeff, did get to memo. Yeah. But with God, all things are possible. And I think what you just saw in the science world and the technology world and the rich person world, $200 billion rich, they're trying to pull off the impossible. literally and you and i didn't fabricate any of those stories that's what the man's doing right now yeah he's going to travel space and we're going to cure old age well i looked at that jes so this on the scientific american here's the title it's just what he said but listen to how generic

humans could live up to 150 years comma new research suggests i mean that's new research suggest. And I read the research, but look, a lot of the articles, because they do the same thing in the media, it's like when you whisper to somebody in a classroom, like, we can live forever. And you do that around the paragraph. It's, you don't need God. Yeah. But by the time you get to the end, everybody whispers to each other, by the time you get

to the end of it, you got a person stand up and says, science has found the cure for old age. You know. So there's a picture attached to the article, and it's of an old French woman. Her name was Jean Chamey. And she's smoking a cigarette, and she's drinking a little glass of red wine. And it says on her 117th birthday. So there's a picture. She lived to be 117.

Well, in this picture, she lives five more years, 122. She's the record holder for the longest lifespan. at least I guess since they've been keeping up with it. So she did it by smoking a cigarette and drinking a glass of red wine every day. Life is full of turns and twists. I mean, I don't know that, you know, science is going to get us to that point where we say, you know, all I need to do is smoke a cigarette. I'll make a bet with y'all, myself included, and you can throw old J.B.

into a Jeff of Bezos, whoever he is. you can throw him in the mix and you say, I tell you what, Jeff, when you get to be 100, send us a memo. That's right. Just when you reached 100 mark. Yeah. Because, you know, you got 200 billion.

You got it figured out. DNA rewrap some, do the sales and all that stuff. You say, get back, remember when you're 100 and tell me how you feel. Remember about, what was it, 30 years ago, the big thing was if you cut off your head and freeze it, put it in some kind of, you know, cryogenic freeze and then one of these days somebody to figure out how to give it.

That's not 30 years ago. That's like three. That's still a, because those things popped up also. The thing keep you about 32 degrees. A lot of them have tried it. When medical technology catches up at another couple hundred years, they'll thaw you out, give you a few fair parts, jumpstart you, and you'll rock on. Well, now the big thing is if you can make it until 2050, if you can do it.

just, if you can preserve your body. Hold. Yeah, till then, they're like, we're pretty sure. That was the pretty sure. Suggest that we can put robotic parts. Of course, but you're going to have to replace everything with robotic parts at that point. I would just simply say, playing God is at best quite the, quite the endeavor. There was a, there was a animated show.

there is an anime show. I guess the long called Futurama I used to watch. And it was the setup was it was set in like 2000, a pizza delivery guy that was just a complete idiot, winds up being frozen or something. And he wakes up and it's 3,000. So it's like a thousand years later. And so he's trying to adapt.

And it was pretty clever show. But in the show, they had the heads. There was like a whole museum of heads of famous people that cut their heads off. Well, now they found a way to animate the heads, but they're just floating in a jar. So you had all these, you know, people, you know, Richard Nixon, and so they did all these things. But I thought arms and legs would have helped. I mean, who wants to be a head floating in a jar, even if you could be reanimated? I just,

I just don't think that sounds like the kind of line. There's a thin line of having hope and being some kind of serial killer, I guess, you know, the rain. Because if you walked into a building and you saw a bunch of heads floating in jars, you would think, somebody needs to be arrested. Hannibal Lecter. Yeah. I'm calling 911. Oh, no, they got a plan. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I guess my whole point is as much persecution in our council culture as we take as being humble believers and followers of Jesus. Well, you know, we have a book that's based on history. Yep. you know, 41 riders over a span of how many years? About 1,000 years at least, you know, of human history. And we have history and all the dots are connected in Jesus being the son of God. And it produces an answer to all these problems. Yep.

Every one of them from overpopulation to what are we going to do to death itself. Yeah, to space travel and it seems big but small. to DNA, to the creation, to sharks being able to live 400 years old, some of them, because they were created by a being that's eternal. Yep. And so I'm like, why are you picking on us? When you're trying to do the same stuff, you're spending all your money that you made, your hard-earned money in trying to find the things that we found for free.

my lesson yesterday this is my notes well that's if you're listening he has there's about five lines of just you say what does those five things say acts one he'll come back in the same way you've seen him go yep one then hebrews nine uh by one sacrifice uh to take away the sin of many people, he will appear a second time not to bear sin. He already covered that but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Then he gets

the first 20. Christ has indeed been raised today. The end will come. He'll hand us over to God, the Father. Then first doesn't say that I just read them those verses. I read them. I said, you need to be live such a life that when this thing ends, you look up in the heavens part,

and you see Jesus and His Mighty Angels, you need to have been leading such a life is you run toward him and not away from him. I said, most are going to flee. The ones you're waiting on him, they say. That's a good point. Every movie that has the natural disaster scene or whatever, everybody's always running away.

So when this happens, you know, the weird sky look and here it comes. A handful will move toward it. And everybody else is saying, let's go hide. That's right. Nowhere to go then, there is no hiding. When you hear the trumpet run forward. Isn't it? He has set a day when he will set a day when he will judge this world with justice.

He's given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead. So have that firmly and plant it in your mind and a life living accordingly to that. And you'll be okay. So isn't it Philippians 2 that says when he comes back, every knee will bow? And that doesn't mean just the ones who believed in him. The guilty will bow.

Every knee will bow. Every knee will bow. And you all get to, Jace, get that message to O Bezos. I think we just did. Okay. Yeah, somebody in Bezos Circle. Pass that along, please.

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