Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 31 | How to Train a Duck Dog, Overcoming Your Past, and Everybody Has Quirks

Episode Date: November 20, 2019

Phil and the boys answer some of your questions! How to train duck dogs; can you overcome your past life; and does everybody have quirks? Send in your questions by sending us a comment on Facebook or YouTube! See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Unachanged What about you? So you think your dog is now ready for He is a prime time player I mean I get a dog that has never hunted And the guy said you need a duck dog I got the dog for you

His name is Biggin And he's a small lab Which is weird It took him about a month To get over just If this dog makes the cut I will give you a crisp $100 bill.

Okay, I'll consider that done. That's a bet. And you give me a hundred if you say, you know what? There's more to it than beach the island. That's it, oh, yeah. Not many great ones. Well, you got to remember some. I didn't see a great one until I run up on old blue.

That's the only dog I ever seen. There was a show enough retriever. He's a great retriever, but whatever his greatness was is nullified due to the wine. Not nullified at all. He's retrieved thousands of ducks. But he's also flared off. thousands, tens of thousands because he won't shut up.

Nope. Oh yeah. Not true. Get you some chew in the back in. Let's talk about this. He bothered you, but he didn't bother me. Well, it's because you can't hear. I can hear, I got

the earplugger and I'm here past gas and a half mile. The dog, look, Al, does the dog wine while we hunt? Fast gas from a half mile, that

I just had let that soak in. I don't know if you really hear that. It depends on, there's different ways to do that because some of the worst ones don't make a sound. That's funny. So, well, I'm just, I'm a little upset. So, Dad, you're doubting that this dog is really ready. Is that what I'm?

The odds of having. Yeah, based on odds. He's never seen this dog. I'm having two great retrievers just narrow, but we'll see. Yeah. Well, you're, but you haven't even seen the dog, and you're like, nope. I'm just saying, that's just crazy. There's no use in saying this is going to be a great one before you watch him hunt.

He's hunted. I mean, that's going way out on the limb. I got the greatest dog and said, have you ever hunted him? He said, no, I never hunted him. I never said he was the greatest dog. I just said he will be. Now, if he watched him retrieve for a year, based on the last year, and I saw he retreat. He retrieved 9117 decks last year,

and he did it in a hurry. I'd say, you may have something very, Jay. But until you see him work, there's no way to know. So most of them I've had. But at some point in the process, didn't work out. Look, I had the last dog I had,

I took him duck hunting the first time, and I thought, nope. The one I had before that, I took him hunting the first time, and I went, no. You can learn a lot from your yard training. I mean, you know, dummies and stuff, but I had them. They worked dummies.

They had it all down, sit, stay quiet. When we came time to duck hunt, they had a problem. You said, what was the problem? They didn't like the duck hunt. Well, this dog likes the duck. The dog did not like that. I've had them do everything right, but when they slammed out and got to the duck, they just broke and run the other way.

Instead of picking them up, they just got away them. They scared them. The duck actually scared them. I said, I cannot believe. some of them we've shoot ducks and they never move. They're sleep. And they just sleep and you try to gouge them and say, let's go. We got some duck.

They didn't want a duck hunt there. But I agree with all this. But what I'm telling you is I took the dog duck hunting. The teal came in. I raised up and shot him. He did not even break when I shot. He looked at me and I said. Did he bring them all back to you?

Everyone will ask one of them. We'll see. including while we're out there I walked because there was a couple that was way down he took off running one of them tried to get up he's he's not dead

he jumped up caught the duck in flight rolled about twice came back when he handed me the duck a teal come flying by I just boom he falls on dry land I would say 70 yards in a thicket. So I said,

back, he went in there, I heard him, he'd come back, I'd say three minutes later, had duck in his mouth. I'm just saying for the first time

he'd ever gone, he exceeded my expectation. That's a good sign. Oh, it was a real good sign. And now... You've got to remember, Jason, the grand scheme of things, a truism that is always there,

which you can live with both. It's not, you're not being unkind, but all Labrador retrievers, retrieving dogs and all women, they have quirks. Here we go. Quarks.

I don't see it. You learn to live with quirks. But you say, are there going to be some quirks with your dog and your woman? That would be a positive. Yes. When you say that, every woman listening. Well, I've got this woman, she has no quirks. I'm like, yeah, tell me about it.

Be honest women. They said, oh, she's got some quirks. I think you've offended about half the population because they're like, why are you comparing me to a dog? I'm just saying. because there is a comparison. Quirks. You live with them. It's not like, you know, blue quirks.

You say sitting there and whining. I wonder if there's any whining women around on planet Earth. You said, maybe there's a few. So do men? Well, that was like, do men have quirk? Blue can get belligerent at times, you know, and just jump the gun and, you know, gets a little too upset over small batterers. I'm like, I wonder if there's any women that just seem to be a little feisty

and a little bit they I think you have relationship issues Phil. This is going down some deep road psycho. I'm married to your mother who is a quiet, gentle woman.

You say, are there a lot of Labrador retrievers that are quiet and gentle? Yes, there are. And you say, that is a good thing. But you say, but all of them have some kind of quirks. And I would say

every man has a quirk. Oh, yeah. Men are quirky too. So we were three women. But I'm just speaking as a man. I didn't say I don't have any quirks. I'm just saying dogs and women have quirks. You say, what about men?

They got a few. You learn to live with it, Jay. Here's what's weird. You'll find these things out some and you get a little older. You're young. Phil, I'm old. We're all old here. No, I mean, the other day, I'll tell you how old is this dog, you know,

when I laid him out of the penny takes off, you know, running. So I just, I don't know, I was feeling pretty good. So I took off running with him. I ran about, I'd say, 20 steps. hamstring just it didn't pop it just got so tight I and so you like the football player all of a sudden you start yeah I start grab it it's just a natural I'm Gympie of course then I look up there's there's missus just remember never try to run your dog well they're better they're better equipped at run is I'm not as young as I used to

be but but you are you quirky that's my question oh I know I have quirky so You have to remember this whole quirky. This whole argument started when I said, I'm really feeling good about my dog. This is how the conversation is it feels something like, nope, nope.

Got to see him. I mean, he's basing his evidence on one day out there. Well, I'm glad he did it then. Let's be positive. I'm saying it's been more positive than negative. The other dogs I've had,

I thought, oh, it's negative. I'll wait until a thumbs up or a thumbs down. I'll wait about half to see. season. Because the cold hits and then they got to break the eyes jumping. Yeah, see them in every face.

All of that. So tell me this, because people have asked, what's blue status? Because we kind of have this whole conversation started earlier this year. You always need, too, because physical ailments, and they, they're like any, animals are like humans. I mean, they'll get sick. There's vet time. You need a sub. You need a sub.

You need some backup. Your dog, his quirk is one of the most annoying quirks imaginable. which is constant waning in the blind. He's wanting to go get retrieved every second of every minute. And it's in his DNA. He can't stop. Yeah, and he can't have himself. And except for down.

However, I have him on a regiment now via his brother is a great dog. And the guy I got blue from, there was about three of them there. But he kept one and he gave me one. I say gave me one. I paid for the for for for blue so there's two coming out of the same litter brothers both of them tend to whine and they're they're they're all keyed up so he got it got he is on a prozac regimen a couple of weeks for doxies and start getting prozac I never heard of it but they said that's what it is it like prozac for dogs or is it like it's

prozac for me and our men are men men men and it calms pomp evidently it calms things down Well, we've got him on that Prozac. I noticed the barking pretty well dried up. He was going to jump out of the pen every time he pull up. Now he's just standing there, and I thought, well, and Blondie said, give him like one during the hunting season, give him a Prozac every day and start two or three weeks for a duck season. And it's a downer. So he basically, it's taken all of that nervous energy prozac. Whatever Prozac is, evidently it.

It tones you down. For the record, we're not recommending this to any. Don't try this. Well, let me help with my dog. And if Blue stops whining and stops and it calms him down to where he can still function well, but it takes the whining out of him, I'm all far. Consulger a vet or a man named Blondie before you do, before you try this is what we're saying. The vet, the vet was all fart.

He said, he says, it's a good idea because he's dealt with this before. in our society, you can give these drugs of dogs? It just seems like that would be. I mean, they get drugs just like we do. Well, sure. Oh, he gets heartworm treatment and I don't know. What I understand. But this, now we're into the psyche of a dog. The mental health, what the mental health of a dog is.

One of the quirks this dog has is his mood tends to be he's too hyper. So if you have something that won't kill him and it, and it calms him down, well, it's for the good of the good of the hunt. Especially because Jay's the old colloquialism that nobody likes a whiner applies to everybody but dad because he doesn't mind a whiner. That's the first song I would teach my kids when they were little. I learned to live with it because he's such a great retriever. I just learned to live with a whining, but I'd rather live without it.

I'll be honest with you. I mean, I wish he would just sit there quietly. When my kids got three or four years old, I would teach him a song and they'd go like this. Nobody likes a whiner. It's all my kids are doing. Everybody knows it. Well, that's what I'm saying. It feels like, well, the dog's not going to be good as my dog.

Well, here's my dog. He's quiet. He's got to be really a good lab to make the retreat as blue is made. So what? If he's quiet, it makes half of them? I would rather take that trade off. I wouldn't. I'd rather, the skill set is what I mentioned.

We have a different set of what annoys. If we shoot green wing teal, small duck, Blue is smart enough to say, let's see now, if I go get one and bring him back, and I go get the other and bring him back, where's a bunch of teal come in? Bo, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, there's nine teal on the water. Whichever one is crippled and is trying to get away, Blue goes get them first. I didn't train him to do that. He's smart enough to say, I need to get that one because that one's going to go.

He gets him. Well, he says while I'm at it, since they're small, I'll just pick up a couple more with him. So he'll bring back three teal. I get the three teal and I say there's another one. And he turns and he's gone. He counts them. He knows how many fail. And he'll just go get them.

And he's bringing them back two and three at a time in his mouth. He just got a mouth full of teal because they're small. And he brings it so small ducks, he brings at least two. He says, speed it up. So he's all about let's get it. That's great. You don't teach that. If he didn't whine, he just knows that.

Because what the whining does, then it makes me tempted to get on, you know, Prozac, and I've never tried that. But the whining is literally I would lay on bad. So what you're saying is either blue-takes Prozac or all the rest of us have to take Brosec. It's just about, that's about where it is. Well, I said, let me get another dog,

because this whining has driving me absolutely insane. And it does flare ducks. He'll have quirks. Hopefully they won't get in the way of its retrieving. You tend to forgive him because of all the great things, and he's your dog. I tend to just look at it openly and say the dog whines too much. He's flaring ducks and he jumps early too.

That's another one of his bad habits. He'll run out there when nothing happens. If you just move in a way that he thinks you're fixed as you, so I mean he's got some problems. He tends to do that earlier, not later. That's true. He's on a razor edge. I have noticed that if it's a slow day and we're not doing very well

and we just have, you know, a few ducks. Blue at about 10 o'clock, 10, 11 o'clock in the morning, he'll just go over and jump in the boat or the Argo. And that's him telling us, it ain't going to happen. I mean, and look, he's never wrong. When he goes and says, you know, he goes from all fired up, he jumps in the, runs down there and jumps in the boat or the Argo, said, I'll wait on y'all because it ain't happening.

Y'all might well pack them up. I'm just sad of all the things Blue has done, the one thing that impressed me, he went up in my eyes. Whenever Sai was taking a nap and snoring, he's laying in the back of the blind, Blue came through the blind, looked over at Sy, went over and hiked his leg and just peed all over, Sy's back. He did. Yeah. And I thought, he does that when he gets bad vibes also.

Like, Jay's, no, he don't do that for me. Jay's turned his head. He'll peeve on his boots in a minute. He growls at me. He don't like me. I don't like him. So it's understood. We don't like each other because he knows I don't like his wine.

Now when we get out after a duck, he works, we worked well together then. But like just being friendly, that dog, your dog is not friendly. Listen, we'll hunt and it'll be an evening hunt. And at 415, we shoot a bunch of ducks. And one of them is on a dying sail, we call it, meaning he's been hit hard, but he goes down a quarter mile. Jayce kind of marks roughly where the duck went down. When we get up and leave, we always remember that duck,

and we count him as probably will get him. And he's a quarter mile. The duck fell in the woods, a quarter mile away over there. Just see him go down, a dot. I see a dot go down through the trees. With Jayce kind of marks it, we get into wheelers, we get all leave the duck blind. We're done.

Legal shooting hours is over. We go over there about where that duck went down, and we get blue out of the rigs. hunt him up. And I mean, he takes off out of running there. Yeah, me and that dog. I'm telling you, amazingly, just about every time he brings back that duck, sometime dead, sometime alive.

Probably the best knows. Which is a good tip, yeah, because you've got a factory and where the wind, so you get him on a line where the wind is blowing toward him. Yep, coming from the duck to him. And he just basically does a grid search until he picks up that cent. Yeah. Then he goes on line, and he gets him. That's pretty amazing.

Over 90% of the time if I'm working out. I mean, he will get them three hours after you shot them and they fall on a quarter mile away. I'm like, well, I'll go by and a high probability of that, which is good because nobody likes a down, you know, duck, which, you know, raccoons. We go to great pains if a duck falls. We don't care if he fell a quarter mile away.

We're going after that duck. Yeah, we don't believe in wanton ways. So somebody asked a question, so I'll ask you guys, because we've been talking about dogs, and he's got a chocolate lab. which, you know, my theory on chocolate labs, I mean, I've seen some great ones, but chocolates are a little quirky because, you know, they're a breed down. In other words, you take a yellow and a black and cross them, you get a chocolate.

So you start breaking down the breed of a dog. You never know what you're going to get. Well, this guy has a chocolate lab. I've seen some great chocolates. I have, too, some chocolates. And I had one that didn't know coming from sick them. His name was Snickers. Remember Snickers?

I don't want to even, I don't want to think about it. Snickers. I remember Snickers. I trained Snickers. You know, some woman named him, you know, he's wife probably, he's a Mishie called him. Let's call him Snickers. Well, he probably looked like a Snickers because that's a chocolate bar.

Yeah, maybe so. So we shot the first duck. I looked at Snickers. I said, back. Snickers. No. Too cold. Snickers is the same lot of candy bar.

Too cold. Trieve in the yard, but Snickers didn't like gun, gunfire, which is a problem with some, some dolls. Some dogs are gunshot. Oh, yeah. This dog was gunshot. I had one. They get a post, tie the dog to the post, get out in a low depressed area,

and drive you a post up, tie your dog to it, and just start shooting. And next day you go out there and you start shooting until he finally says, you know, there's nothing wrong with this shooting. You can break about it. Some kind of weird torture. Yeah. You know what I mean? We have a dog, which comes down to the guy's, what is his question is he got a year old dog.

so he wants to know if he's got a duck dog so he looked like sending him off to camp but they're expensive you know if you can get somebody to train him so he's wondering if there's any hunt over him for a couple of weeks and it's pretty well tell the story but you I think you do have to get a few things established you know the sit the routine which because I have his dog now he he's been trained but it's hard to just turn the switch on

You know, you can tell if they like to retreat, but, you know, my little, I've got a little dog. What's it? I don't even know what kind of dog that is. It looks annoying. Yeah. It's a little crossbreed. It's about six inches long, but it barks incessantly. So as soon as you get, you don't even have to go into Jay's house.

You talk about an alarm system. Oh, it is. You get within a hundred yards of his house and you get a dog. This dog he's talking about it. No, not my lab. I have a guard dog. A little fluffy little thing. It's about, it's less than a foot long.

Like you'd pick it up, it weighs about eight ounces. Let me tell you something. If anybody comes with anywhere near my house, I know it. I hear them just. Oh, it's trying to sound like a bad dude. You look down and you think, you know, you could one puff of smoking. It can't even bite you. But I would keep him.

That might save you life. Oh, yeah, yeah. Guard dog. Guard dog. I love that dog. Alert dog. What I'm saying is she'll retrieve. And she don't even.

But the guy I wrote you the letter about the dog, you know, they're going to have quirks. But he just needs to hunt over him for a couple of weeks at least. What's the most essential commands for this guy? So obviously you got to teach him how to sit down. He has to sit and stay. And then back until you shoot.

Whatever. Just call his name. Or throw a dummy, right? Just call his name. There has to be a sit and stay. is if there's not a sitting and stay. You just got a dog roaming around. Well, right.

I mean, my dog, I mean, that's the first thing we do. That dog doesn't get fed until he's sitting. And when I let him out, I sit and you stay. I'll walk off. He's still sitting there. Because in a blind, he's going to be there for hours. Yeah. And he's just got to get over.

Our dogs are whistle trained, meaning we call their name. We shoot. He's supposed to sit there. But during duck hunt, I've just learned. learned he used to do that. But now when we shoot, I don't mind him going. Get out there and get them and bring them back. I don't either, but he shouldn't leave before you shoot.

That's right. That's bad. But you've got to train him that. But mine, he runs out there. You say, well, what happens if he doesn't see the ducks fall? Sometimes they fall back behind the blind. Well, Blue, I'll call his name. He'll run out there.

He doesn't know where to go because he didn't see him fall. Well, he runs out there about 10 yards. I blow the whistle. He looks back at me. and I point back this way behind the blind. If you're going to duck hunt, you've got to have the whistle. You got to have the whistle. So he runs, he goes my hand signal.

I'm going, I point behind the blind. Well, he runs around the blind. He's out there and thicket. Sometime I'll get up on my edge of the blind where I can see him and he's gone too far. I blow a whistle and they look and I'm like, I move my hand to the right. He said, okay, I'm all, well, he gets on him.

See, I lead him in there with the whistle. Yeah. Blow the whistle. He stopped, which way. And I either say, back, straight back, or right or left. He's got to trust you enough to follow. You got to trust you. Training a dog is an everyday ordeal, I mean, for weeks and months.

So, I mean, you can do it. I mean, I'm doing it. I know it's time sensitive, but if you. And sometimes you can, I notice you and Jay, sometimes you can take him down to a pond or a lake and you have dummies. You're using your water. You can see what he'll do, but still feels. right you never really get it

until they go duck hunting right and he was like oh but I just thought he'll perform my dog perform way better than my expectations and I saw some he was putting it all together right before my eyes which was

one one bunch of ducks which is what he's talking about he's got that on his belt and that's a positive sign every since we've trained since then way better now he goes out there and he's using his nose we never was doing it for because now I only use either real ducks or wings

I'll put wings on dummies because if you just have the dummy he thinks we're playing but if you put a wing I'll tape a wing on the dummy and I'll hide it when I send him over there with a whistle

well he's just using his nose he has no idea where it's at because in the real duck duck hunting situation you're not you're not throwing a duck so I don't like throwing stuff I like

I think it takes them, then they, unless it's thrown, they don't know. Well, then he gets it because, like, when he got the one in the thicket, he was like, there was no, I wasn't exactly sure where it fell. So I got him with the whistle in the general location. He then used his nose. And he's got to want to do it. He's got to get, it's a light bulb that has got to go off. With their hard wire. I've had a lot of dogs.

Blue's the best one, but as far as pure retriever. But I got by with a lot of dogs. They were like little females that were just slow, as steady as she goes. They were never fast at anything. They would just go out there and they'd pick them up and they'd walk back. Well, I've had those, but I'd rather have the high-strung ones that get it, get after. You get it's hard to compare dogs because they're all different. My dog's different.

I just, I like, I like this dog, is all I was saying. We'll see how it turns out. So you want to take him on opening day, Jay's? I'd love to. Yeah, take him. Yeah. Take him. Take him and we'll grade him.

Yeah, I mean, you won't need a Prozac. I can tell you that. Yeah. Us or the dog. This dog will sit here. That's his best quality is his manners. Well, that's good. All right.

So hopefully that helped out our, I don't know your name, but you with the chocolate lab. So where are these questions coming from? They're coming from all sorts of places. Facebook, YouTube, which we've been encouraging people to write in so we can answer a few of your questions on the podcast. This was a pretty good. one I thought, this is from Joseph that comes through Facebook. And he said, he is, I guess it's him, but he's talking about the struggle with identity after a sinful life. And we've talked about that pretty openly here in other places. It says Phil has talked about his past running around

on Ms. Kay. How does someone not let what they've done become who they are? I got to remember, my mode of operandi is, uh, a very simple one listen to what's that guy's name Joseph Joseph get in the book of acts get in the book of axe it's over toward the back

let's see let's see uh oh toward the back I know where it is on the page I know where it is on the page so this is while you're looking let me read this

you got to remember when you look at characters in the Bible. I hate calling characters because these were real people. But you just look at Saul versus Paul. I mean, this guy could not be any worse. He,

I mean, his claim to fame was killing people that followed. He was a terrorist. Yeah, yeah. He was a first century terrorist. And I even thought about that after he had his moment with God and he came to the Lord. Just think of all the people and all the churches he went to

and all the letters he wrote. Yeah. where there were people in their get-togethers that were the remnants of families that he had killed. Personally suffered. That's right. Yeah. So here's what he said, Joseph. This is a repentant.

That's what I was going to read. You're in Acts 26. Look, I'm in Acts 26. That's it. He's a repentant murderer. And he said to King, he was talking to a big dog, you got to remember every once in a while, even here. You run upon the head dog of whatever. whether it's a monarchy dictatorship, king,

well, the Apostle Paul bounced off of them from time to time, and it happens too in modern day America. But the bottom line is, King of Grippa was not disobeyed to the vision from heaven. First to those in Damascus. Where you at? On what verse? Verse 20.

Then to those in Jerusalem, Joseph, in all Judea and to the Gentiles. He's saying, to everybody I run up on. I preach that they should repent. So he asked about the sinful life and how do you reach the identity. You start by doing this right here. Repent, which is change your mind about your previous lifestyle and say, I am done with that. Jesus will be Lord and Master. There's a confession you make before you baptize that they should repent and turn to God,

and you've done that. and here's the key and prove their repentance by their deeds the point is you say what's the what's the way to show people that although i was a very sinful person i turned to god what's my new identity it goes from lying stealing cursing drunkenness immorality goes from that kind of lifestyle to love joy you're proving your repentance peace patience you used to be impatiently that nobody's going to tell me, I can't have sexual, all these things that come up with. Pace, it's kind of goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control. You say, that is proof.

The qualities that begin to come forth from you, it proves you are a repentant man because there's no more cursing, there's no more bitterness, there's no more hatred, there's none of that stuff. I think the question, though, is, well, what happens when that does occur in, I isolated incidents even after you come to Christ because it's hard to live in grace because you would think oh since Jesus died and I have knowledge of this I would never sin again but we do so you know I was going to read three verses before we did go to the same chapter which is really weird that wasn't planned but when Saul was struck down here in

chapter 26 the Lord said why are you persecuting me that's in verse 14 and then I love 15 because he asked who are you Lord I mean here's the person he's persecuting and he wasn't sure there's this voice from heaven now he's been struck down and he didn't know exactly who it was but whoever it was was Lord was big was big big big bigly I bet I can't mess with this one we're talking about I could see but Now I'm blind. He's on his hands and knees. He's blind, crawling around the road, saying, who are you, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom you're persecuting. And then verse 17 says, I'll rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. And I'm sending you to them. Now, this is the worst person, basically a Christian terrorist. But he says this, which I think goes in

with what you said about repentance. It says, I am sending you there to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith. And the reason I'm bringing that up is he basically said, I'm sending you to do that, but that's what's going to happen indirectly. I think he was speaking to him. That's what's going to happen to you. You're going from darkness to light.

And I've always said how to answer the idea about how do we, how when we sin and, you know, even though we're trying not to now because we're under the power of God, not the power of anyone, how do we view that? Well, I think that one concept there from being in darkness to like, think about it. When you sin before you come to Christ, you're always trying to hide it, you lie about it, you embellish, you're constantly looking around, you don't want it to come out. And that's what they say, you know, the cover up. You're living a lie. A living a lie. Well, the difference in sinning after you're a Christian is that, concept about light. When you do mess up, you confess your sins, one to another, and to God.

You know, you read 1st John 1 in chapter 2. And everybody that sees you realizes you're not like you used to be. That's right. But you say, but what about when I do make a mistake? It's not counted against you because Jesus is there 24-7 at the right hand of the father. It's where he is now to constantly cleanse you of any sin. As long as you'll, walk in the light. You say, you're in the light. You say, what about when I blow it? You better be thankful for what's called grace. But, you know, one thing I would say, I think using Paul as the example, y'all are right on target, is that there seems to be when you look at Paul and then you look at other people's lives and, Dad, you're a perfect example. In some way, so was I,

that sometimes the worst people live of when they are converted, they have huge opportunities. to bless a lot of people. And I don't know if it's just because you did. Look, it's safe to say when you read all the epistles that Paul wrote, there was an identity complex with Paul all the way through. Here's what he said in first week, then he's 15. Remember he said Jesus appeared. He's talked about the gospel being the first and fourth and fourth.

He said, Jesus appeared to the disciples and to all these other people. And then to me, like one who was abnormally born. That's the way the NIV puts it. Yep. So the idea is he realized he didn't come in the natural normal. way that all the other disciples did. In all of his letters, he seems like a lesser. He keeps talking about, I know, you know, you don't trust me, you know, and I'm paraprored. He said, I'm the worst one of the books. The worst of the, the worst of sinners. So to Joseph's point, I think you can make a

decision, and Paul made one, that you can say, well, I was terrible. He was a low down murdering dog. Right. And so now in Christ, my identity is that gives me the opportunity to really be a shining example, which is, I think you've been there. Because he said you come to these two places, you get forgiveness of sins. So just, but it's hard to acknowledge that because, you know, when you sin, you mess up, especially the what he was doing, this terrible, terrible, you just, you're loaded down with guilt. He was worse than I was, and that's saying a lot.

That's right. I didn't get around to murdering Christians. And you're embarrassed, you know. But it says, I'm also going to give you a place among the sanctified. and that's what people struggle with. They don't, you just think, you think, well, I'm not good enough to be in a place with the sanctify,

which is those who have been set apart, despite their sin because of forgiveness. They're viewed as representatives of Jesus, you know, sons and daughters of God. It's just hard to take that place because you're like, well, I have so many sins. I wanted to read John 319, John 316 gets all the press.

God loves, you know, so love the world. he sent Jesus and then he you know comes up in 17 saying that he was not it wasn't in his intention to condemn the world because that's what people feel when they they have really bad sins I mean they feel like well you know I need to be can God's for you and he wants you to make it despite your sin so he gets to 19 I was I was trying to explain this to my daughter because you know when you're 13 14 15 she's 16 now she was kind of struggling with this saying concept of being open about our sins right because I was like any kid or you know most kids when you ask them did you do this well they'd rather lie because they're in the cover-up mode

they don't want to disappoint and I'm like no you have to be open and honest and here's why and I read this I saw a light bulb kind of go on when I read this because I was saying because then it's no longer about you it God loves you and wants you a place to have a place among sanctified and to forgive you despite your occasional sins but you have to respond in a in a way that's living in the light with honesty no that's why the worst thing you can do is lie that's why the evil one is the father of all lies which is why i went to x 26 he's like part of going out from under the control of the evil one because he is the father of all lies that's your mode of operati when you sin to going from god which

which is you're open and honest. But here's why you're open and honest. It says this is the verdict. Light has come into the world, Jesus, but men love darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. It's not like they love darkness just to be in darkness. They had a lot of evil deeds, and so they chose to live in darkness, which is the cover up.

They liked darkness because their deeds were evil. They don't want anybody to know what's going on. And then he says, everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed which is what we have going on which is why people struggle live in a Christian life even though they have sin because they're like oh if if they know that I did this they're not going to love me when God says the here's a here's a great text by the way let me read the last verse but whoever lives by the truth comes into the light and this is the key phrase for

me so that it may be seen plainly that what he has has done has been done through God. That's why I said it's no longer about you. We're back on proving your repentance, which is a great thing. This is a very great verse that Peter said. This is 2nd Peter, Jonathan, verse 9. In the time is being discussed here when it's all going be 3-9 or 2-9. 3-9. God's patient with you, the human race. Here's a key thing you need to remember. is Jonathan, is that a name? Joseph. Joseph.

Joseph, not wanting God, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. He's just saying, Peter's saying, look, he doesn't want to burn anyone. He's trying to, he loved you like Jay's just got through reading in the book of John. He's, he's patient with people, not wanting anyone to perish. He wants to save us. All we have to do is say, I need to prove who I am. I think also. And when my past comes up, give them the bad news on the front end,

tell them, say, listen, I used to be whatever it was you were into. But now I'm not like that anymore. I'm a changed man. Had a change of heart, which is what repentance is. Two verses came to mind. One is in Romans 6 when, of all things, there was a question. and ask, shall I go on sinning so that grace may increase? Which is kind of this guy's question.

You know, why, how do I deal with sin now that I'm under grace, even though I'm trying not to, and I'm focused on loving other people, but I'm still sin. Well, Paul, of all things, brought up what happened when you were baptized when that question was asked in Roman 6. it wasn't a explanation on baptism it was an explanation on why you shouldn't sin so that grace may increase why you shouldn't say well yeah i'm under grace let me just you know god's going to forgive me for it so why not it's that little process so he says in roman six what shall we say then shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase by no means we died to sin how can we live in it any longer don't you know that all of us who

were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death. We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that just as Christ was raised from the death through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. So he goes to this reenactment of Jesus' death, and resurrection. My point is he gets down to verse 6 and he says, for we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body. of sin might be done away with.

And I think Paul's point, which is my point to the question, Jonathan, is that sometimes you just got to go back to what you reenacted in baptism and think, you know what? I used to, I killed that guy back there. You know, when we mess up. And Paul addresses that in the next chapter in Roman 7, this battle, this spiritual warfare between doing, allowing the spirit to control your life versus your old. sinful self. And it's a famous chapter. It's really confusing to read, but I think it's done that way on purpose, because we've all been at those moments. And I'll just read a little bit, a segment of it.

It's in Romans 7, verse 15. It says, I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do, I do not do, but what I hate to do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me that is in my sinful nature, for I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out, which was this guy's question. I have the, I just can't seem to get going. Well, hey, welcome to being a human being. Even though we've crucified the old sinful self, there's still this law at work. thinking back to Roman 6 the previous chapter, oh yeah, I reenacted Jesus' death-bound resurrection.

So I'll end with this. It gets down to the end in verse 2023, and he says, I see a law at work in the members of my body. This is 723, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of sin. What a wretched man I am. Who will rescue me from this body of death? And then he says, but thanks be to God through Jesus Christ, our Lord.

Ultimately, it's got to get back to Jesus' death on a cross, his resurrection, and you surrendering to that. That's what he said. Who is the little wormy guy and old brother were out there out of the three guys? Was it Delmer? Yeah, when he said, I remember when Delmer he goes and he gets baptized and he comes out and he says, the preacher said, my sins are forgiven. He said, even that bank job I did in Yazoo City. And he said, well, I thought you said you didn't do that bank job.

He said, well, I lied. And I'm forgiven of that too. I thought the same thing when he said that. I thought, yep. That's it. It's always the sin, and it's the cover up. And then here's Jesus on a cross. But now you can just be, you know, say, hey, you know,

it's like you were saying, Dad, when you were talking about Trump. You know, you're like, man, the best thing you could ever done back in 16 was get baptized. And then when every time they bring up the past, you say, that was old Trump. You know what I'm saying? I mean, see, I think he's on to something. I think the number one reason people don't go public for Jesus, and I mean share with their friends or their family,

it's because they have sins, which is true. Everybody has sins. But there's enough passages about that's what we're supposed to do, but people say, well, I can't do it because I have sin in my life. But God uses us despite that. That's right. We've been forgiven.

We show them whatever happened happened because of God. The great news is the great text in Roman chapter 5. before there, Jonathan. Blessed is the man, Joseph. Is this Joseph? Jonathan Joseph, same thing. I call him, I call him. He's Joseph.

Blessed is the man whose sins are forgiven. Blessed is the man whose sins are covered. Let's see, I got forgiven, covered, and then that last statement is a doozy, Jonathan, Joseph. Jonathan Joseph. Hey, Joseph. You're both. That last one there, Joseph says, Blessed is the man who sin, the Lord will never count against him.

That's what you have when you get in Jesus. It's because of Jesus and your position, Joseph, being in Jesus. There's no sin there. You're protected. And you walk in the light, do the best you can. But when you stumble, say, Lord, what can I say? I'm a weak man and I rely on your forgiveness the rest of my life on planet Earth. And actually, according to Revelation 1211, it actually helps you overcome.

You know, in that text, John is talking about the evil one coming to the earth and said, they, the saints, overcame the evil one by the blood of the lamb. That's Jesus. By the word of their testimony. In other words, they were willing to talk about it. This is what he did for me. And the fact that they did not love this life so much that they did. would shrink back, even from death.

So you're willing to go to the max. And so I think famous people, we're famous people because we were on TV. Most famous people get famous. And then their biggest fear is that TMZ or somebody is going to go dig up their past. So they spend their whole lives trying to protect it. Instead of what we did was, we said, oh, there's some bad stuff in there. But this is what Christ did to redeem us. And I think that's been the difference.

I mean, not being afraid. Because we believe that the reason we became famous is because God decided for us to be because he's famous. I'm not famous. So when people look, they're like, well, what's up with you? Well, that's why we point people to Jesus because we're like, well, this is what made us famous. I mean, because being forgiven for everything you've ever done wrong, having the ability to live again, even though you die, those are fame worthy.

Yeah. I mean, that's something you can't give to people, you know, because I'm like, well, how do you feel about celebrity? And look, I've told people like this, you know, the hoop asked me this. I would wait in line for no celebrity outside of Jesus. If you can't forgive me or if you can't come back from the dead, I don't really think you're that impressive. You know what I'm saying?

If Jesus showed up, I'll be like, I'll get in line for that. And you say, well, why? Well, because he raises dead men from the ground. That's right. That's something to be famous about. That's what it's all right. To tie in with my point in 2ndthians 4, because this is a key issue with me,

because every time I try to rally the troops, even at our home base, this is constantly coming up. People don't feel worthy to go out and share Jesus because they're going to be accused of being a hypocrite. And that's so they don't say anything. And the evil one wins, because if you muzzle the declaration of Jesus, we're not doing our job here. But 2 Corinthians 4 and 5, because I think the Corinthians had this problem too. It says, verse 4, the God of this age, talking about Satan, little G, God, has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

but then verse 5 says for we don't preach ourselves but Jesus Christ is Lord it goes back to that same moment that Saul had when he was struck down he said who are you Lord and he said I'm going to send you to share with people that there's forgiveness to be had and there's a place among the sanctified to turn you from the power of Satan to God that that moment and then he said you your repentance and you prove your repentance by your deeds but it's the same thing we do now you finally realize it's not about me it's not I don't preach myself I don't preach my old past sinful self that's why I'm always a little bit when people get up and they say well I'm going to share my testimony that's great I'm not against you sharing you know your past

mistakes and how God redeemed you but it's more about God's testimony because there's the cure that there's a hundred and one different ways to screw up and have a lot of sins you know and to be shocked by that but the power is that an innocent sacrifice was made on a cross by a person who can't be captured over death that that's what inspires people and turns them around so he goes on to say we have this treasure in verse seven in jars of clay and that's what we are we're we're we're uh you know have cracks we have mistakes as a jar of clay but to show the this all surpassing power is from God and not from us. It goes back to what John 3 said.

Same concept. It all starts with that, the mind. You were taught Ephesians 422. By the way, he starts just saying, I tell you this and insist on it in the Lord. You must no longer live as the Gentiles do in the futility of their thinking. It's about the mind. they're darkened and their understanding, separated from the life of God because of the

ignorance that's in them due to the hardening of their hearts, again, the mind. Having lost all sensitivity, they've been given over themselves to sensuality, all this immorality you see so as to indulge in every kind of impurity with a continual lust for more. He goes on to say, and this Joseph is good for you. Verse 22, you were taught, if you weren't, you're being taught right now. with regard to your former way of life. Okay, you've been a sinful guy. To put off your old self, which confirms what Jay said, you say,

you're dying to what once bound you, your sins. You're dying to that to live a new life at baptism. Your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires, and check us out, Joseph, to be. be made new you say where do we start in the attitude of your minds to put on the new self and i know this is a shocker joseph but here's what god wants for you created to be like god in true righteousness and holiest while you're on the earth show them jesus by being like jesus you say well you can't do it if profanity is coming out of your mouth half a dozen times

in a day you said Jesus wouldn't do that what am I talking about so the easy ones are like clean your mouth up it's all in Ephesians 4 by the way Joseph take to get your Bible and start and read Ephesians chapter 4 from where I just

read from it's all in the mind that's why I want to do what I don't want to do I've got this thing living in me that's why God gives you his spirit so once you change your mind your body part will follow but unless there's a change of heart which is your mind right here you got a pump that's your heart in your in your rib cage you say but your heart the biblical heart is your mind you change that and everything began to change isn't it funny with all the counseling going on in our

society just thinking all the drugs we're talking about giving prozac to your dog oh yeah that god gives us the greatest counselor who in our mind what you're talking about so I'll close out this podcast with more of a not a question but a comment from Kevin Hall he said God bless Al in his ongoing effort to redirect and keep these guys on track with the agenda at hand I like it you need excellent that's the oldest son you sometime that's my job we're playing quarterback so uh good stuff uh Joseph thanks for asking your question send us questions stuff about the Bible stuff like this It allows us to be able to really dive in to what the Bible says about real life stuff. So keep them coming.

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