Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 310 | Jase’s Massive Surprise in Colorado & a Man Who Catfished His Own Employee

Episode Date: July 14, 2021

Jase describes his crazy Colorado fishing adventure, the huge surprise he had along the way, and his encounter with some extremely daring individuals. Phil’s friend Sammie Crawford stops by to talk about his life and his mentoring program. Phil explains why he decided to invest in Sammie and his future. And Jase tells the story of a man who catfished his own employee to prove a point and help him to turn his life around from an unlikely addiction. To help Sammie go to https://featured.muscleandfitness.com/2021/sammie-cra and cast a free vote Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we have a special guest today in the lair. Welcome, Sammy, too. We call this the lair. This is the unashamed lair where we hang out and talk about, well, we talk about a lot of stuff. We talk about Jason's stories and trips and musings. We talk about the Bible quite a bit as well. So, Sammy is, Dad, tell our folks, Sammy works with you over at, you and mom over at university. Tell us about how all that works. Well, he was there when we showed up over there. Which has been, what, two years now, three?

Yeah. Two or three years ago. Sammy's got a pretty good story to tell, in my humble opinion. But I think probably it better just let him do the talking. But he's a good brother. he's a good brother and I'm glad he's here so he had been very helpful for us over there when we went to university you know well it's a unique situation saying we've talked about before on our podcast because you rarely see churches tend to be in the south I guess

or in Louisiana tend to sort of self-segregate I mean there tend to be white churches or more predominantly white or more predominantly black but you guys are pretty much 50-50 church Mix for everything. Yeah, which is really good. Way better. And you guys do a lot of, you guys do some work with some homeless people and some people kind of are in that area. And you also have a boxing gym, which is how I first heard about you because my son-in-law

was telling me about your boxing gym. So tell me, tell us what you do there. How you got started and converted and whatever. Just go with it. Well, I got arrested at the age of 17 years old. And I was sentenced to 25 years, federal time, and 30-year state. Made some bad decisions. or, you know, I had to pay for it.

And just during that time of me being incarcerated, you know, life change. You know, I was incarcerated with 22 years and just doing that journey of that time, you know, I had to learn a lot about myself. But doing that process of learning about myself, you know, I had a few guys that who really took interest in my well-being. Because when you go to prison, you know, it's two ways in, you know. you can come in and you can leave out, you know, dead or you can leave out dead, you know, alive. Yeah. Or you can, you know. You know, you can come in and actually die in prison or you can leave prison and still be dead and find yourself in a cycle.

Or you can come in and clean your life together and get your life together. But, you know, just the best thing that happened to me was, you know, I find God in all. in prison. Yep. And, you know, it's a very unique, humble situation because, you know, a lot of time you hear the term, you know, jailhouse religion, however, you know, my God is real and my transition and my transformation is real. Mm-hmm.

And I've been out of prison five years and I'm still on this train, you know, and I'm still following Christ, you know, and that's my source of power and that's my source of inspiration. But I had started boxing in prison because, you know, I was. I was a fighter, you know, very aggressive young man, you know, got arrested at the very young age. And I took a real great interest in boxing, but not just the competition level, but how the discipline of the sport had started to change the way that I thought and I moved inside

the prison because I was, you know, during that time, I was transferred to multiple prisons, but I didn't find myself in Angola for the longest time. And in Angola, it's like a world. It's a society within a prison city. And it's, you know, with 5,000 inmates. So you're going to intermingle with so many different races, so many different cultures, so many different believers of whatever is out there. And it almost seemed like when we were there, you're right.

It was like towns because you had to do different camps. Yeah. And then you guys were crossing. paths. So it almost felt like as we were traveling around and going to different places, it was, it was so spread out over such a wide range. It's like a series of towns. That's exactly what I felt like. Like I'm there. Some kind of country is. Right. It's definitely have, it has so many different things that's set up to where you can function as, it function as its own city. You know, it has a mail room. It has a canteen where a canteen warehouse. It has a major kitchen.

And it has like these small little out camps of things that surround the main prison. So it's a big cycle. And what most people will know is that the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary has a satellite there. And they actually train guys to be preachers and pastors. And they will plant churches and other prison systems out of Angola, which is incredible. I mean, it was, it's a lot of great spiritual stuff is that. I mean, you think about prison, like you said, being a terrible place, but, you know, when God shows up, it can become, yeah, it could become an opportunity. You're still under lock and key, but you know you're free.

Exactly. And, you know, when I went there in 1996, you know, it was making a transition upon a new ward. And he were a very strong advocate of New Orleans theology, or basic college in there. And one of my mentors were a guy who were a student. And he became a minister inside there. And, you know, once he did so many years and that he was transferred to another prison to assist that prison in planting churches inside of other prisons. So now your job now, you're out of prison. Yeah.

But you, we got together, you and I, we talked about it. It was your idea about forming a, uh, uh, uh, you're, uh, you're out of prison. what would you call it? Young guys come in there, you know, I guess, gals, women too. Yeah, we have a couple young ladies in there. So tell the audience what you do when you get up in the morning, you go down there in a neighborhood.

Pretty tough neighborhood. Definitely. So y'all's goal, how do you work it from there? Yeah, so, you know, I am a certified person training, but, you know, with me having the experience of boxing, I knew how boxing changed my life. I came to Monroe after being released, I saw that it wasn't a boxing facility in the city of Monroe. So, you know, there was a great opportunity for me to not open up a business, but also to utilize

that business as a ministry too as well. Love it. And so, you know, when I first opened it, I really didn't have a lot of equipment in there. And, you know, Mr. Gardner at the time was making a transition from not being a Gardner was making a transition of leaving the state of Louisiana and you know he mentioned that Phil was coming over and he mentioned that there would be someone I can talk to and Phil and Miss Kay you know they supported me 100% you know but before Phil took over university we had a conversation me and him and Matt at all right's fair roll one night

remember that night yeah you know he gave me his vision and direction of where we wanted to go and I mean right now today that vision has really open up to the point where I was like that conversation was talked about in the present time in the pad. Yeah. It's like, this is what our vision is. And I was like, okay. But now I'm like, it's happening.

It's happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's been almost three years and it's still going on. But also the mentoring program has sprouted from that seed of everything. that, you know, he supported me, but also the hard work and everything that all the other volunteers as well. And we deal with a lot of mentoring, mentoring a lot of kids. We have kids

come in. We have kids that come out and we have kids that stay. So, you know, we utilize the skill of boxing as the tool to, you know, help them in their athletic, you know, ability. But also, you know, we just want to be parts of males in the community, you know. Because a lot of kids don't have males that they can talk to whether they're a young lady or a young man I know I struggle My dad was very supportive of everything Not there, but he wasn't present

Because you know when him and my mom divorced He moved away And it was hard for me to have those Conversations when I needed And then at present Yeah So now I understand Where I struggle at and I can be more

supportive to someone Who I may see suffering Or struggling in the same every, you know, what I was going through at that time. Because you're going to have plenty of bad influences. Yeah. You know, Satan's going to plant opportunities to be bad role models everywhere. So you're right.

It's rare then to have that person like you that comes and says, look, I can tell you where this is going, you know. And I love that you're using boxing, you know, something physical to be able to get to something spiritual, you know, which is, which is important. Which is what all of us do. Right. We use duck calls. I mean, I mean, I blow.

duck calls and people are like, what is that? So in the next few days, in the next few days, what's coming up that you would like to be in on? Yeah, well, also, you know, with me utilizing the facility as, you know, my employment, which, you know, a lot of, I don't have a lot of income.

So I cook, I work, but I also, you know, look for ways I can utilize my talent. And it was a men's health. Men's health is hosting a men's health cover. And it's where a people, People can come out and vote social media via social media.

And he has a $20,000 reward for the one to get the most votes. So I enter the contest. And, you know, it's a battle, you know. And out of, it's a battle. People all over the world has entered. But I have overcame the first two rounds. And it's three more rounds. But every week, it's elimination.

So, you know, I'm just battling for it. But it would be definitely helpful for not only me to win that. But also, some of that seed money, if I was the winner, would definitely go off into the program to as well. Yeah. Yeah. So what we're asking for is Unashamed Nation, we need you guys to engage and vote for Sammy. Yeah. And it's, what's it?

Fitness. Men's fitness. Men's fitness is what's coming. We're going to put a banner on the screen to tell you how to be able to do that, to be able to vote for Sammy. You need to do it. This is releasing on Wednesday, and it needs to be before Thursday, right? Yeah. Yeah.

It has a deadline to every Thursday they count the votes and, you know, it starts over new. Well, and what I like is that, you know, what God does through us, despite our flaws and bad decisions, is he breaks cycles. And I did a little prison ministry for a couple of years. And when you said that about those guys who would leave and come back, they were in that cycle. And some of them, which we had a deal, like, when you get out, come see me i even had a few that it was like meet me here i mean they're going to experience their new life and it never show and then months later i look up in our cell you know once a week and here they come i'm like you're back why didn't you meet me and so that cycle's got to be

broken then i think the same thing y'all are doing you know you and you and phil making an unlikely pair i guess y'all y'all coming in that's a just the visual of that is cool here are your mentors, kids. But you're breaking that cycle in a tough neighborhood and giving people a positive role model, which you're then showing them the ultimate father. Yeah. Who loves them and his form. So I just wanted to say, we appreciate what you doing.

Yes, sir, Samber, you're doing a great job. I love what you said. You can, there's two ways to leave. You can die of yourself and be something new. Or you can just keep dying the rest of your life. And that's what a lot of people unfortunately choose, but you chose life. Or you can just die. Or you can just die.

And some people die in. You die as part of the process. So what Sammy has done is taking an opportunity, but I love it because you don't pay back, you pay forward. And so when you're working with these young people, you're paying forward the grace of God. He had grace in your life. And now you're paying that forward in other people's lives.

Yeah, definitely. It's all, you know, a lot of people, you know, commend me and, you know, congratulate me on the progress of how far, you know, they see that I'd accomplish in such a short time. But, you know, and I honestly tell them, it's not me. Yeah.

You know, this is God working through me. That's right. Because it's time. I was like, ugh. I can't do it. Yeah, I can't do it. You know, I mean, even when I was going through a process of, you know, trying to raise seed money

to pay for that first six months of rent. Yeah. You know, and then personal things happen. I have to spend that money. And it's like, but it's only, you know, you know, our Lord and Savior working through me to do this here. And that's the only person I can get a glory to. Yesterday when we were the day before yesterday

when we met with the brothers, the apostle Paul said I have learned. So it is a learning curve here. He said, I've learned to be content. Whatever the circumstances, I know what it is to be a need. I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned, the second time he said that, the secret,

and it's a secret and a well-kept. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether welfare or hunger or living in plenty or want, undo everything through him who gives us strength. And same has proven. Stay the course and you'll be blessed. That's Philippians, four. 13, by the

You bet you. That's a good one. So on a shame nation, we need you guys to step up, vote for Sammy, and we're going to hopefully have them win this competition, and we'll see where God takes it from there. Most definitely. Thank you, brother. Thank you for coming.

Appreciate it. Yeah, that was really good, Dad. Sammy is, you know, guys like him are inspirational because so many people, you know, are eager to write people off. Yeah. You know, for bad choices. For whatever reason. every reason. And redemption, the whole theme of the Bible is redemption. And people's lives being

redeemed and then them finding purpose is powerful. And I love it. You know, Sammy cooks a lot of food over there for, for, for, and gives it away and, you know, to the people that come there and just, you know, he's just got a wonderful heart. So I'm glad to, that we're able to help. I thought of that passage in John 8. You know, it's an, it's an interesting thing. And John 8, the famous verse that says, you'll know the truth and the truth will set you free, which is John 832. But the previous verse in 31,

he was addressing the Jews who had believed him. These were, they came up believing him. And Jesus famously says, you'll know the truth and the truth set you free. And they're like, what are you trying to say? Yeah. We don't need to be free. and any later on says there are children of the devil.

But my point is, Jesus was saying, you can be locked up and out in the open. And here was a man who was actually free when he was locked up. That is correct. Well, what is it? Galatians says the whole world is a prisoner of sin. Sin imprisons you.

I mean, so whether you're incarcerated in an institution or not, if you're living a simple life, you're incarcerated. One of the lines I used when I went down to Angola a few times, one of the lines I used is, guys, I said, you're never going back down that road. You came in on a lot of you. 75% of the people in Angola will never leave it. Lifeers. I said, always remember this, though. Don't ever forget this.

You can be under lock and key, which all are, but you can still be free. That's right. Even here. I said, don't forget that. So the warden told me later that that was piped. into the death row people. Yeah. And he said a lot of them requested.

Some of them came to Christ. Yes, some of them came to Christ. Which is, I mean, they're going to, you know, their life. And the warden let them up to the end before they wouldn't let you be baptized. Right. But they wanted to respond by faith to the gospel by being baptized in the local lake out there, you know, there's a swamp out in there. But Mississippi River Delta, but he allowed them to go down there.

Sammy mentioned in the mid-90s, there was a warden named Burrell Kane that came in. and he was there about 20 years. And he was a man of God and a visionary. And he took what was traditionally one of the toughest, most terrible prisons in the U.S. You looked around when you were down there and you could tell. Oh, yeah. And that's what those guys were telling us. And we said, well, look, everybody seems so great here.

And he said, well, you're only seeing the ones who are trying to do good. Oh, yeah. The other ones, you're not seeing them. He said, there's some bad people in there. Oh, and I did that two-year stint for that Bible study. I mean, multiple times my life was threatened. And it just, of course, I was like, well, I always came at it from a spiritual perspective because the only thing I had to fight with, because these boys worked out every day.

And I didn't. And he was like, you know, I'll break you in half. I was like, yep. And then I'm going to be resurrected. Then what? Because, I mean, you had to bow up to them, which they took that as a sign of string. And they'd be like. He's bluffing.

He's bluffing. I said, I'm not bluffing. The power of God. The one in me is greater than the one that's under, that you're under the control of. But I had several times where it got loud, you know. I mean, they're using four little words and everything else. It's like we were fixed to fight, but I was coming at it 100% spiritual. I was like, no, just kill me.

And then I'm going to come back and rain terror on this bunch. They were actually scared. to that. Yeah. You know? Right. Because it's not, it's a strange phenomenon.

It's not using the weapons of the world when Paul said, you know, we demolish strongholds. It's one thing to read that. It's another thing to trust it when there's no security in it. Because the security, when they closed the door, I looked up as like, oh, you're not coming in there? And he was like, you're on your own in there, buddy. Good luck.

So that scared me because I thought by the time I can get security in here, I'll be. dead. They built them, they allowed them to build themselves a little structure so they could meet with pews and they had some singers, amazingly. They were great. Good singers. Yeah. We probably had about 800 people in the chapel. And I mean, it was exciting, Jason. You would have loved it because, I mean, those guys were, you're talking about some serious worship. Some are under lock and keep, but they can still be free. Well, a lot of people say, why y'all do stuff like that? But when everybody looks at our society and you can point out the negatives, they're obvious. I mean, the world is literally upside down in a lot of ways. But you think, you know,

we introduce Jesus. Jesus can change the heart. And when you look at our crowded prisons and all that, I mean, there's a way for healing to take place and transformation. And the best way to do it is change the heart. And Jesus is the best at changing the heart of anything, regardless that people are believers or not. Just look at this guy, 25 years in a federal penitentiary. And he has been a not only stayed out of trouble, he's actually changing generations in a community leader. He's a community leader. In a terrible neighborhood.

When he came to me, he said, I want to start a boxing school. And I said, a boxing school. I said, well, go for it. And he said, I need a little bit of getting off the ground. He said, I need things like a ring, a boxing ring that they go to. I said, hmm, I said, what else? and he said, you know, you know, you hit the balls, you got them bang hanging, too, do, do, do, too, too.

He said, you know, you've seen these things hanging from the ceiling. I said, yeah, I said, I'll tell what you do. I said, Sammy, you go down there and you write down every piece of equipment that you have to have. Now, the ones you don't have to have, don't worry about them. But what you have to start a boxing school, I said, write them down, bring me that list. And I said, research it and find out how much it costs. And then you give it to me. And I said, we'll see what we can do.

So that's what he did. And I looked down the list. There's a long list of all the stuff that goes into a boxing school, you know. I said, the man wants to do that. He needs some help. So I just said, I'm here to help. Right. I said, audit.

I said, send the bill to me. That was a good thing. I like that the boxing, which is what he did. So it's really grown since seeing a lot of young guys there. He has some now that are coming up and a really. really good boxers. Right. They're getting it on a national level, and that's why he was needing to vote to where he can,

he just wanted that vote, you know. Recognize, right. Yeah. Well, and the thing about it is, like he said, he's providing leadership, especially male leadership in an area that's needed. But not only that, you know, a lot of times kids, doesn't matter what neighborhood you're in. If you've got too much time on your hands where you're not doing something constructive or

productive, you get into some bad situation. He saw his own life. That's right. And what it did to him, but not having some kind of somebody to happen with direction. Right. And when he saw that, he joined with us and the Lord and we went forward. You said it before, though, Dad, everybody's got something that you love or that you're good at. Everyone's good at something.

It's good at something. And in his case, that's what it was. He figured that out. And once Jesus, he submitted to him, now he's doing what he loves to do, but he's doing it for God's glory to help people. I mean, it's just, that's what everybody has to figure out. That's what the United States of America needs to implement. That's exactly right, which would change everything. Let's take another break.

So, Jay's, you've been, you've been having some. I've been in Colorado for Colorado, four or five days. So I had an event in, where was that named? I thought my first joke went over, just it was just a disaster. Because it was. Your first thought, tough crowd. Yeah, well, it was Kremlin, Colorado. Kremlin.

And so I said, well, when I first looked at the schedule, I thought I was going to Russia. You know, the Kremlin? 1,500 people. Nothing. Not even a nervous chort? Not even a nervous chortle even? I thought. So how long did it take to loosen them up a little bit?

After that, it was fine. These people were our kind of people. And what Missy did, when she heard I was going up there, she was like, well, that's close to Vail. And, of course, you know, it's brutal in the summer down here in Louisiana in July, August. So the next thing I know. But it's not in Vail. Yeah. So the next thing I know, she and me and Karina and Cole, they're all coming.

I was like, well, boy, this is awesome that they're supporting me, you know, because they don't usually go to my events, you know. Well, the night of the event. She was like, okay, the car people, you know, they're going to come pick us up because we went trout fish. And I'll tell you about that. And then she said, then we'll see you tonight. I was like, y'all, y'all not coming? I said, what happened? I thought you were supporting me.

Vacation time, Jay. And she's like, no, Bonnie, which is her aunt. She's like, your assistant's coming. I was like, well, why would she come when you're here? And she was like, well, her and Gary, her husband, they're coming. and I said, I think I'm starting to figure out that everybody's planned a vacation up here around this event. Yeah. And you're earning the money on the thing to pay for the whole thing.

Yeah, that's basically what happened. But I'll tell you this. Welcome to my world day. You know, we had a really nice hotel and then the backyard of this hotel, you're looking up, we're in the Rocky Mountains here. It's beautiful. And it's cool. like at night, I was like, I got to go buy something with some sleeves. I mean, it was cold.

I don't know if it was so cold as it was. And that's in July. In July. Yeah. But you're so elevated. They get snow in like June there. I was shocked that it got down to 72 last night in Louisiana. I haven't seen that in years.

I know. It's been nice. Well, I was a little concerned at first because like we're pulling in the hotel when we first got there. And there was a sign that says, when you encounter a bear and I was like, here we go. Because the first thing there was leave, make sure to leave a path of escape for the bear. I thought.

Bears first. Oh, boy. Here we go. But when we left, so I go up to Kremlin, which is, I hope I'm saying that right, which was probably an hour away. they had a day plan for us and it was a conservationist who basically had taken thousands of acres

and just had one of these he loved the outdoors and he's like, stand back and watch this. And they, every year they'll take like special needs kids, trout fishing or wounded veterans or they have a day where they like introduce it. It was like yuppie day,

but they didn't call it yuppie day. I was like, no, what is that? And there was like people who have never experienced outdoor. So there's no guide service or anything, but they asked him there like, well, look, we got Jace up here. He's going to speak. And he does a lot for that community. He's like, yeah, y'all take off down there and catch you all you want. So we're like, they called it world-class trout fishing.

And I looked at missing and rolled my eyes. I thought, yeah. Because we've, I've been on some world-class, you know, fishing. And there was nothing world-class about it. But we got out there and the guy, you know, we got to fly rods and everything. to me and the kids and Missy well he's just letting out the line because I said give them all a tutorial

because I pretty well got the hang of it the last couple years I've done it a few times I said give him a tutorial how to do this well that fly hit the water while he's showing him here's how you do this and it just and he just there he is and he handed it to Missy

so Missy just bowed up on his thing and I was like well that can't be a trout because it was just massive I mean the ride was bowed yeah been over and she's trying to hauls it in pal breaks the line you know and I'm like good grief these these must be some big trout but I knew right then that we're just in the tutorial part and he just got to fly in the water we may be on to something here maybe world class and so I was like here let me let me let me just I couldn't stand it then so I was like while you're teaching them hand me my my ride you know I whipped that thing out there as soon as I got out there and caught about a probably a six pound rainbow trout which is way bigger than any other trout

I've ever called and so from that moment on once we all got lined out it was just a series of screams and hollers from the girls and between the deer flies and the massive trout and then about halfway into it

I catch right at a 16 pound rainbow trout. 16 pounds. That's a lot of trout. Well, I know you're thinking, yeah, 16 pounds.

I'm going to show them this picture and then we can put this since I took this picture. We'll put this on the screen. Do you all just turn them loose after you have to catch them? Yeah, I mean, I'd do the event after, so I didn't have anything to do it. Look at that thing.

Look at that. It doesn't look real. It doesn't even look. Is that normal? I mean, is that? Well, I asked him, I said, is this normal? he's like, well, this guy has all this land. And you just imagine they do everything in their power to make sure they have a healthy trout population. It's like us and ducks, right?

Yeah. Even though they're free. That is a bull on a pretty little river, too. Oh, I know. Well, it's like a little Oxbow River off of the Blue River. But he said, look, we, you know, they can go downstream. They can go upstream. but if you just take care of a place and do everything you can do to have a healthy trout population

and you don't really fish it much you get this kind of stuff and you're putting them all back you got to remember we saw moose while i was there we saw black bear which i was a little nervous on that but i was like where's your weapon i was like all i got to babel he was looking at me like he's like i'd say go you know run to the truck i thought okay that's the plan huh but you know they had deer everywhere well then i noticed one place i was like this looks ducky and about the time i said that because it was like a look like a pond right beside the the river five mallards came out they were wintering there and i thought boy this boy here now he didn't he didn't he got it figured out yeah so that was fun missy was the only one that

never actually landed a trout but she either had her line broke or just lost them yeah but but But every time it was a big trout and like the 16-pounder I caught, it was probably a 30-minute fight. Yeah. 30 minutes. Because if you bow up, you're going to break something. You just got to let them go. Yeah.

I mean, when I, because you don't really set the hook and the trout fishing, I just come back, but it was just dead weight. And I was like, well, this can't be a trout. It's too heavy. But that went on for three or four minutes. And then all of a sudden, he just decided he's going to go 50 yards. downstream in about four seconds. So he pulled all my drag out,

and I'm now running, falling down, getting wet, chasing him. I thought there's no way this line's going to hold. Of course, they had leaders. And when I saw the leaders, I thought, what you got that for? They're not going to hit this because they're going to see it. But I know why now, because they were like, we got some bulls.

You're going to need that. And the only reason I landed that fish is my net, man, just after 30 minutes, I'm exhausted. And I was like, just try to stab him with the net on a flyby. And he just got lucky on the thing barely would fit in the net. He just made a really good stab. And he got him in the net and fell back on the rocks, him and the fish in the net. I grabbed him and took a picture and like, here you go.

I was like, good work. Let's take another break. So then we go to this, What was the name of this restaurant? I wrote this down. We went, when we got to Kremlin, we went to this restaurant, and I had a first. It was called Dean's West. And they were like, oh, this is, they've had it for how, I don't know how many years, you know,

but it's where everybody got this. When we pulled up there, there was a motorcycle gang there. And I was like, well, this is, what kind of place is this? That was my first. They were all coming out. and so I looked and this girl went jace you know a member of the motorcycle gang I was like yep

and there was a guy beside her and I mean think uh you know it made me think of the movies remember the Clinties well when he was in the movies the uh oh the uh any which way yeah with the money any which way well any which way but loose and every which way he can

the second they were you see those feel no he's he was ever saw this movie He was a boxer that he was... Well, it was like street fighting. Street fight. He was a street fighter. And these motorcycle gang got after him and he had a monkey named Clyde. And he'd say right turn, Clyde.

And that orangutan would put his fist out and just club somebody in the jaw. You never saw those movies? No. They were funny. You need to watch those tonight with Miss Kay. They're hilarious. Remember when he said... It was all the old guys from the Westerns were the motorcycle people.

The old guy that had the squaw, you know, the innkeeper there, he was in it. So my point is when I saw the motorcycle gang, I have not watched that movie, either one of those, in 20 years. It has been a long time. But when I saw them, that sound went off in my ear. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Because every time they show the motorcycle gang on the movie, they play that. The best scene of those movies, by the way.

And by the way, the leader of the motorcycle gang was the guy that was doing business with the Comancheiros. Remember the old guy, he shot him, you know? That was the main guy on the motorcycle. Yeah. I got you. So, but I was going to say the best scene I like from those movies is when he said, because I don't know how they did this.

I've been on TV. I know how it works. But, O. Eastwood said, Clyde, which was the monkey. He said, strip the caddy. They had an old Cadillac there, and that monkey walked over and just stripped the car. He was tearing off. doors throwing its fenders. I'm like,

now how do you fake that? But I, so I took the picture with the motorcycle guy. I brought up Jesus. But when I got to know them and meet them, it was like I was in that movie because they were all a bunch of goofballs. Right. You know, just it seemed ironic.

But, and also learned. Is that one of the movie where he got in the, he got in the tractor trailer rig and then ran over all their motorcycles in the parking lot? Yeah. It's awesome. I mean, it's,

I hope you. all watch it. It's good clean fun. It is pretty fun. And, uh, it was, it was a attempt at humor. He did a couple. I love it. I did too.

I mean, Sandra Lox. It's got redneck tendencies. It was, it kind of appeals to that crowd. But I think yuppies would find it interesting because Missy did. Yeah. I mean, from my distance.

But so I also learned something else. In Colorado, when they say you want jalapinas on that, you know, around here, we got the, the halipinas that have been jarred or whatever, and they got a little heat to them.

But there, every time I came across a jalapeno, it was searing heat, sweat, pouring, nose dripping. Like, what have I done? Because they only had three. I got this huge burger, and there was three little bitty slivers of jalapeno. I just picked one up and put it in my mouth like an idiot. And it was like, ding, ding, ding.

And I made the same mistake back at the hotel. I ordered some chicken wrap or something. You want alipinos? I was like, yeah, because I wasn't thinking. Same reaction. So I thought that was interesting. So I get to the event here, Jesus, the thing I wanted to share. Did you ever say the motorcycle people knew you?

One of them had a Duck Dynasty shirt on. He's like, I said, this is weird. He's like, yeah. I said, did you know I was coming? He's like, come and wear it. He didn't even know where he was. I said, you have my shirt on. It was a picture of me.

It was that one that said, if you don't know what you're doing, do it quickly or whatever. And so he looked down and he looked, will you sign this? I said, yeah, might as well. I mean, you're talking about random. Yeah. But I did the event. And for the first time in 30-something years about speaking about Jesus, I was reading my Bible. the way up there because i don't have notes or anything ever but always it's like i have my walk-up

music my contemporary worship me i have the same system and i just read the book of john and i mean that that's what excites me because i tend to be you know laid back and but i left it in the car and so i got to look around for my bible because i don't really read it because i'll quote it like you do when you speak to these events. It was an outdoor event, so you don't have time to say, hey, turn your Bibles over to, I mean, this was a festival, and we're out there on the side of a mountain. And so I'm looking around. I was like, I cannot. I like panic. I don't have my Bible. But there was a guy standing there who was a volunteer, and he said, well, you can use mine. And I loved it because he, number one, what do you have his Bible there for? I mean, he wasn't

speaking. He was just a volunteer. And he carried his Bible. Yeah, I said, well, why, you have your Bible. He said, I don't leave home without this Bible. He pulled his Bible. It looked more war than mine. I was like, perfect. And it was an IV. I didn't think that was possible. Let's take that rest break. Well, after the Russian joke bombed, then I held that Bible up. And I said, for the first time, I actually don't have my Bible, I borrowed this. And I made a point that I said, do you realize the only thing that I can think of all the top of my head that's better old? or used than brand new is a Bible.

Good point. A used Bible is way more valuable than a new one. That's right. So that line got a lot of, oh, we got some hallelujahs and I thought,

oh, we got some believers out here. So no more Russian jokes. Let's just go all in. So there, from then on it went well. But so after it's over, I'm two hours away from back where I was stay in my family's abandoned me you know they're off somewhere who knows and so these two guys are going to give me a ride back and they said you we're going to take you on the scenic route

which was a dirt road down the mountain which was crazy i mean we actually stopped one time because i was like i got to get a picture of this and he's like well there's there's nine guys standing there where you take the picture and i said what's that what's that matter he said well they're on the other side of the rail i said what does that matter And he's like, well, they have to be drunk or high because you'll see it. So we pulled up there because we could see them on the other side of the rail. I'm telling you, I took a picture of it. There are thousands of feet above this and they're on the other side of the rail.

I mean, one slip and they're just dead. So I got out. I said, you boys must believe in a resurrection. Of course, they all looked around at me, you know, like, who is this guy? One of them said, why do you say that? I said, you're on the other side of the realm. Yeah. And it was kind of weird.

I was like, well, you must not be scared to die. You're either high on Jesus or you're just high. I said, I think we're just high. I said, well, if I were y'all, I would consider being high on Jesus. And that's where I let the ride. There's a few that do lose their life. I don't know the clips up there. Why would you do that?

Well, you know, they're all about the selfie, Jays. These people put themselves, then they die all the time. In these, you know, because it's a cool picture that they can post on their social media of them hanging off the side of a mountain. And, you know, all it takes is one misstep and you're done. But that's how much they love taking selfies. But I wanted to tell you all this. So we go down and the two guys that are taking, the guy driving was a butcher. and they were great guys.

And so they don't really, we just talked about life. I mean, they're obviously believers. I was thinking, how did they get nominated to drive me back? Because I felt terrible. They're driving two hours away. And he basically butchers all their meat they kill in the winter for the hunters. But we got right close to the hotel and he said, look, he said, I wanted to say something. And he kind of started getting choked up, you know.

He said, I just wanted to thank you. you and your dad. And when you get back, he said, I want you to tell your dad. And he said, because the reason I volunteered to give you a ride back here, he said, I was a raging alcoholic for years. And he said, I was in a rehab somewhere mandatory. He said, but one of the other guys there, he said, gave me a copy of your dad's book. And he said, I read it in there. And it led me to pursuing God. And he said, I came to Jesus. He said, I've been sober seven years. years, but he said, then I bought your book quickly thereafter. And then he converted the other guy.

And so they were carrying me. So I thought, you know, a lot of times you don't think doing something like a book or whatever, because it's not really you, you know, you're giving God the glory and raising that. So that was kind of a real touching, touching moment. Yeah, but you could see that, the fruit of it. Great story. Great story.

Yeah, because he said, you know, one of the biggest things that led him to, turn his life around. He said, when I read your book, I realized he had a son. And he's like, I'm my behavior and my abuse of alcohol is affecting him. Because then he read it from my perspective, which I never really made that connection. But he said, I, of course, then when he got to Jesus, he's like, well, this, this is awesome. Yeah. So it was a cool story.

Yeah. And of course, we got, speaking of books, dad's got your day. Daily Phil, which is, I guess, in the background over here, that is in Walmart. You can still get that. And we got a new one coming out next year, Uncanceled, which is now almost completely finished. Really a good book. Gordon helped us write it, my uncle, and it's really good. And then we're going to have Mom and Lisa on next week on the podcast.

They've got one they're working on called Sister Roar. So we'll have them tell about that. So we've got a lot of good stuff in the Q. So this guy, he told me the greatest cell phone story that I've ever heard. And I thought, I'm going to have to tell my dad this story. And he's like, yeah, I want you to tell your dad because he's like, I know your dad doesn't do cell phones. He said, you tell him the prank.

He said, tell him the prank. He said, tell him, you know, I appreciate his book because that led me, you know, to the Lord. He said, but then tell him, tell him this cell phone. So this guy, of course, now he's trying to look kind of like Sammy, I guess. He's looking for young kids. He can mentor or whatever. and he takes him in outdoors and hunting.

Then he'll give him a job because he has a butcher shop. So he said he hires his kid. It's like 17 years old. And he's like, every time I turn around, his kid's on cell phone. And he's like, it is just, it's just making me angry. And so, and he's like, the kid is always bragging about the girls he's meeting. And he said, I kept telling him, I mean, how do you even know that's who it is?

It could be, you know, Samantha could be Sam from. You know, and the kids like, hey, hey, you do your thing, old guy and making fun. So he said, you know, I just thought, I'm going to do something about this. And so he got a girl, the owner of the butcher shop, to, like, befriend this kid and get all his information. And so once he got the information, he sets up an account. He gets a picture of about the same age girl. And he'd be frenzy. And look, he takes it hook.

line and sinker. They become an item. And this guy telling me, he's like, he's the worst girlfriend I ever had. He said, he's texting me at all hours a night. He's like, look, the only place he could get Wi-Fi at where they work is his house. He said, he would go in, take off from work, and send me a message from my house. He said, look, I paid him one time. He cashes the check. Then he sends me a picture of himself without a shirt on with all his cash. He said that I just gave it. So he thought, you know what I was going to do. You're talking about getting another employee

at a whole new level. So it comes up to where they're going to meet. He's going to meet the girl. He's telling all the employees and his boss. He's like, well, we're going to meet. Well, it's his boss that he's going to meet. He said, my first thing to do, he said, I was going to call the police to just set up and then act like this was a 12-year-old girl.

But my wife said, look, we want to teach him, but we don't want to. send him into trauma here. So what they decided to do is he said, I'm just going to pull up in the truck with him. Because he was so excited for everybody to meet the girl. Yeah. He said, so they're sitting there. And of course, she don't show.

And then he's like, man, what's going on? So he's like, well, let me text or whatever time he would send a text or whatever. His boss's phone would go off. You know, he's thinking. And finally he looked over and he just held the phone up. And he said in that moment, he just turned like a ghost. I mean, he realized the whole time I have had a relationship with my boss. He was at a delusion state.

But you know what he said? He said it was the greatest thing that ever happened to him. It embarrassed him so much. He said he was never the same in a positive way. Humbled him. And he turned out, he said, now he's some kind of Air Force, a leader in the Air Force or whatever. It was a great story. And I thought, well, man, kudos to you for going through that.

We need to get some kind of faith-based group to do a TV show on that. That's right. It would be awesome. It would be great. And then the life lessons that you get that come out of, you know, because they find this stuff way too important, you know, this social media. Nothing is real. It's all in illusions.

Be careful who you're sending love notes to. Exactly right. Maybe you're boss. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes.

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