Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 313 | Jase's Wikipedia Page Is a MESS & Phil's Disgusting Habit in the Duck Blind

Episode Date: July 19, 2021

Jase uses Scripture to answer an age-old question: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Al finds Jase’s Wikipedia page interesting — especially the inaccuracies. Jase and Phil believe that people only want a small part of Jesus. Phil points out how crazy the first person who tried milk probably was. And Jase talks about Phil’s disgusting habit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jen, our social media guru that handles all our stuff for restoration, she sent me an interesting email last night. Dad, you probably won't be aware of this, but there's a website called Wikipedia that most young people now, they go there whenever they want to know information about something, they go to Wikipedia. It's supposed to be like an online, not really a dictionary. What would you call it like a what?

Encyclopedia. There you go. Thank you, Josh. You got to get somebody young. So it's like an online. The problem is that you can just put your own stuff on there. Or, you know, other people can put stuff on. People change stuff.

So it's not very reliable. You know, you know. So she sent me Jay's Wikipedia. Oh, really? Yeah. So I thought you'd find this interesting. So here's, yeah, I bet I would say more than interesting. Here's what the word.

Jason Silas, Jason quotes Robertson. They got that right. Born August 16, 1969. True. All right. Is an American television star on the A&E reality television show Duck Dynasty. Debatable. The C-O of the business Duck Commander.

That ship up. That ship sailed. I've been demoted since then. An innovator. and a professional duck hunter. That's probably true, right? Jace lives in West Monroe, Louisiana, with his wife, Missing, and there are three children.

They got your kids on here. I actually have four. Oh, that's right. They didn't get the news about my young daughter from Nicaragua. He is known for avoiding work in favor of hunting and fishing. That's just a ball face lie. He speaks ducking knees. And for his self-proclaimed frog hunting abilities, he calls himself a frog's worst nightmare.

So that's what somebody put on Wikipedia about you. I'd say most of that's pretty accurate. But here's the sad part, Dave. Look at your picture that's on there. Well, that's not me. Yep, they got most of it right, but they got the wrong picture. He has your little brother. Oh, that's Jeff?

That's Jeff. Well, that must have been through a bad time in his life. It says Robertson in 2014. Jason Silas Robertson, age 51. Oh, that says Bernice, Louisiana. That's also incorrect. You were born in Bernice, one. No, Willie was.

Willie. You and I were born in Russia. Boy, that just shows you when you are getting information. Y'all told me everything that I haven't read. I looked at. I've never looked at face. book ever. So y'all have told me, though, you've given me warnings that everything is to be treated as a lie until proven otherwise. That was Jason's advice right over there. He said,

it's a lie, whatever they say, until proven otherwise. So accept it as a lie. Well, but that's enough to show me that that's that. But see, what happens is so some person, they go to there all the time, I'm sure, because they're wanting to check Jace out. They heard him on a podcast they saw them somewhere and you go there and you know like about half of that was accurate most are they drug-free yeah i mean they probably were drug-free they're just not lie-free there's no consequences on the internet for getting the story right correct so if you're bored with being in your mama's bedroom with the computer you can dream up a lot of ways boredom breeds a lot of lot. Let me just, let me interject this, which is a bunch of bull, but I mean, I'm

what I mean, Phil, what you don't realize is, is that you on the internet in the past year, you've died twice, you've been in prison, you're, you're leading a cartel. Selling marijuana. Yeah, selling marijuana. You're, I mean, and look, there's people, I usually have people, at least once a week, somebody I bump into the grocery store or whatever. and they say something like, how are y'all making it without sigh, you know? And I'm like, what do you mean?

Well, you know, it was so sad that he died. And I was like, well, I just saw him. So they're like, really? He came back from the dead. I'm like, so now you believe in the resurrection? Because you read it on the internet? I mean, believe the Bible. I'm feeling better about not participating in.

these type things. I feel better about it. Well, it's, yeah, it's not a, it's not a bad place. I've never heard one say when I ask the questions, what am I missing? I've never heard one say, you're missing a whole lot. Most of them say, you're not missing anything, Mr. Robinson. Right. Well, look, I'm not going to throw rocks out of them because reading the Internet is just like

going to church on Sunday, which is just like eating fish. You got to spit out the bowl. We're all flawed. But my problem is the people who, it seems, in our culture, there are people who view what they read on the Internet as absolute truth. Why do these people keep coming up? And I'm like, but then if you start talking about the Bible, they start arguing. Yeah, I don't know about that.

I'm like, but you'll believe what somebody put on Facebook? Everything's true but the Bible. Yeah, it just seems, I mean, am I crazy? This is the old adage of something seems too good to be true. It usually is. Not true. Or too bad to be true. That's right.

Exactly. Or too bad. You know? Right. Well, that's where we've gotten, though. So now that's how the Internet has changed everything is because, you know, you don't have to go back very far. You had a very narrow source of how you found out what was going on in the world, the news source. That broadened with cable, television.

Now it's even broader with the Internet. In some ways, it's good. because you're able to hear some voices, but in some ways, but can you trust the voice? Therein lies the problem with the situation. So I've noticed, Dad, so the most common thing on the Internet, especially on newsy websites, is they're trying to get you to click on their thing, because that's where all the money is. When you click on there, the more clicks, the more money. And look, I get it.

The more people that click on watch our podcast, the better the situation. So a lot of them are chasing the book. So a lot of was about the money. And so what happens is they have to have a. sensational headline to get you to click on there. I mean, I noticed that when we told... So Jesus died was buried and raised from the dead is not at the top of the list. It's probably not good a lot of clicks.

Yeah. You know, just now if you said, you know, something defamatory about Jesus, you'd probably get some clicks. That's what's sad. I noticed it whenever we told Phyllis's story on the podcast. You know, we decided we were just going to, that's how we would tell the world that we have a sister. You have a daughter.

And so the story and the content, the only content they got because we didn't do interviews was from the podcast, which was accurate, everything in it. But none of the headlines matched what we said. You know, it was more, you know, Roberts, a Duck Dynasty, Patriarch, you know, secret love child. Anything to like be tantalizing, you know. And then Jason, I actually made one of the tabboys, all the brothers, that we were having this fight over. heard of getting any money. Like we were... I hadn't heard this.

Oh, yeah. We were going over the wheel with a fine tooth comb. Oh, boy. Making sure that, you know, that we weeded her out. I mean, somebody, and it kept quoting an anonymous source close to the family, close to the situation. So, you know, it's just... Yeah, they ought to look at the entourage that's with me.

They would be stunned. Starting with Dan. That's right. Well, I don't know. Maybe there's a spy in your camp that's talking about. and one of the tabloid. They had a picture of me on there that they'd pull off the internet, and it wasn't the most flattering pick.

I was probably in my top weight. And so Willie, I took him a copy of the tabloid over, and all he could, all he got out of the whole thing was how bad I looked in the picture. And so Willie tweeted for the first time in about two years. He said, well,

the story is true about our sister. We love her, you know, but we are checking out Al's DNA. to see if he might be related to Kim Jong-un. That was what he's treat, which was pretty funny, I have to admit. And a little mean. And a little mean, which is, that's where Willie's humor is.

It's fairly funny, but a little bit mean. But yeah, so it's just, you know, you have to take it for what it is. But we, you know, our podcast is out there because of it. So, you know, it's good with the bad, you know. So we just, the smart thing is that like Jay Stowe, Dallas, Jinkas, don't read a lot of comments. Just do what you're doing. Don't get too hung up on the criticism.

I know one thing, I have a lot of states where people are coming from. And one, two, Sunday morning, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Ten different states were represented from human beings who drove all the way down to participate in the new birth. Yeah. Some may have been angels. It's a me of an age. Who knows? Hebrews.

And we probably, I saw your list, and I think there were at least four more states at the main campus where I was. Yep. There you go. I mean, that's pretty amazing. 12, 14 states, you know. People drove that far. Yeah. Participate in the new birth.

I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Right. So as long as that's happening, I'm not worried about all the yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we'll just have to, Jason just have to live with being Jeff on Wikipedia, I guess. It seems we live a simple life. we come down here where where we go duck hunting from the layer we're inside the compound here yeah and all the equipment the duck equipment is all out there we're back in here in a room that we purposely made it cool where we could stand the heat 90 degrees and whatever but we're

beaming out good news yep so you know someone says so what's the crux of the matter they beam out good news that's what we're doing that's what we do and we do a little time Tony Shoshri. We're not ashamed to do it. A little spicy seasoning. We're not ashamed. We know we get bad mouth. Okay.

We take it. We go with, roll with the punches. That's exactly right. Look, any time you discuss. But we're not going to stop. I mean, it's, you know, they, they, they, they the cancel culture. Well, get them off TV. Get them off the podcast.

That's fine. Whatever. We'll do it some other way. But we're not going to stop. No. Well, I think that's the one thing. Once you've showed that you don't really have any fear of being canceled. We're doing it because we love them.

Yeah. We have no fear of cancelation. No. As your new book states perfectly, everything we've ever done was canceled at the cross. So once that's been canceled, we're living in gravy now. Oh, look, it's a blast. Exactly right. So we're going to do some podcast listener questions. We hadn't done that in a little bit. So we would do a few of those. The first one, it was more of us, just a comment I was going to read to y'all because I thought it was pretty neat. Jen. I don't guess that was our Jim, another gin.

But she said that because you were talking about BC and CE, you know, the common error and, you know, how that is. And you have a good way of discussing it. She said, she said, calls C.E. Christ entrance instead of the common error, which I thought that was pretty good. Pretty cool. That'll work. Yeah, which is pretty. It was just something good. And then she said, I want to thank you and your family for being so public about your spirituality.

I've been binge listening to the podcast. and she said she's on episode 131. So, Jen, you're going to be a while for you here. I acknowledge you. So just, but keep listening. We're up to three something now, 312, I think. She said, as a grown woman, wife and mother, I haven't always led a life in Jesus' light.

And now listening to y'all talk about it has really brought me into the light. I appreciate y'all more than words can describe. So, you know, like you said, that's what it's all about. And we get a lot of, you know, notes like this. and I appreciate y'all telling us about life change because that's really what this whole thing is about. I mean, the Bible is about not only just redeeming us from sin, but it's also about transforming us as we talked about last time from Romans 12, which is really good. All right, here's another, this is a question.

This is from Jeff. He's a longtime listener. And he said, what did Jesus mean when he said, let the dead bury their dead or bury their own dead? I can't figure it out. Can you answer it on a shame? What did he answer about the BC and the C? Was she wondering about that? No, she just said that she calls, instead of calling it common error, she calls it Christ interest.

The atheists tend to call it the common error, and they don't use AD, which, you know. Amino, what was that? Anno domino. Anno domini, yeah. Anno domini, yeah. Year of our Lord. That's what the world's did until 1700s of what so. I don't know where I got amino, that's amino acids.

Somebody came along and said, well, we can't say B.C. before Christ and AD, an O'Doomina, year of our Lord, because we don't believe in any of that. Right. So they just wanted to bypass history. Yeah. The historical Jesus showing up 2,021 years, give it two or three years either way. You know, Dianna, Eusebius, Dionysius, from some monk that, that, about 500 or so, Constantine, when he was converted,

he said, go back and check our archive and find out the exact day. When did it happen? And he come up with what we now count time by, but the bottom line is we're all counting time by Jesus. You'd run, but you can't hide. Well, the Old Testament referred to God, the Father, as the ancient of days. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, he had many names. But Jesus said, or the Hebrew writer, said Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever, so it really wouldn't matter. That's right. Because a lot of people, they're trying to use that as proof because it's like four years off, didn't it? Three or four years, either way. And I'm like, it's impossible to come to God without faith, Hebrews 116. So if we had proof, then it wouldn't be faith.

Well, that's true. But it is remarkable that all modern day calendars pretty well start and stop. Well, and to your point, it's just a lucky coincidence that before the common error happens to be before Christ came. I mean, great coincidence. Let's take a break. Yeah, so that's her point. Well, I think, but it is a valid point that God wove these books or letters through history so that people who seek and want to dig they're the ones going to find

the people that are open-minded who are cut to the heart by what Jesus did but the ones who search and that's why I use parables that's why I use illustrations and so you don't have to get everything all lined up I mean I see people like who are believers and they're just how could the ark be big enough to hold all those animals How could the ark be big enough to hold all those animals? It's like they have some kind of screw loose on trying to make everything in the Bible fit perfectly in time. We're three years off.

We're three years off. How is this possible? You're missing the forest for the trees. Right. Because in the end, you read John 20 and 21, blessed are those who haven't seen but have believed. And if Jesus, if everything he did would have been written down, there wouldn't be enough books in the world to hold it. He did way more. He is way more.

But if you dig and look, you'll say, oh, yeah, he's a son. As a human being, he did enough to convince me. Yeah. Well, and he gave us enough to believe. I mean, look, when you watch how Jesus operated in his three years he was roaming around the earth, I mean, he was pretty cryptic, you know, in terms of, I mean, you had to really. want to know about him or you didn't get him because most of them missed him, you know. I simply have always said if that many human beings with their calendars and they date the time going back 2,021 years, give or take a few, but if you just look at the historical Jesus,

there's plenty of information outside the Bible that proves he was here. Well, there's really not any dispute. historically because so many other people wrote about him that they're not just in the Bible. College universities normally just skip over that time frame. Yeah. They just skip by that pretty quick. Josephus, who was. I talked to a college professor, history professor, Sammy, and he said, headquarters told him,

just don't, just don't cover. Just forget that. Skip it. They don't have a historical history teacher teaching. Jesus showed up by when he showed. up. They've researched it, you know, and they've got it down there pretty a lot. He was here. Right. Yeah. Plenty of information is there. Well, I think everybody agrees he was here. Right. It's just who he is. Who he is. That's right. Was he the real deal?

I'll tell you one thing. You're not going to go find his body and do get some DNA. No. I'll make a bet on that. It ain't there, boy. But you know, you would on any. any other religion because it was always some person. Now, that's what I hadn't figured out people. I have more sympathy with people who just deny any existence than people who are following someone who's dead. Yeah. I mean, what?

You're not going to follow them long. You're going to follow them right into the ground. Well, that's why you get into all this mystic stuff about, you know, we become one with the universe and floating particles. through the whatever, blah, blah, blah. You know, I've been pretty disappointed in the lack of ideas outside of Jesus when it comes to the resurrection. It's a lot of copying going on. I mean, you'd think the Internet, we were talking about they get it wrong.

It seemed like they'd have something, that some idea beside, oh, we're just going to become energy and be that for millions of years in some form that we've. won't recognize nor be able to acknowledge. Okay. Give me something with some that's been fermented, if that's my belief, because that's depressing. And it is depressing. Most of the, most of the more famous atheist over the last 500 years were pretty depressing people, their writings and stuff.

I mean, most of them committed suicide, which why wouldn't you? I mean, if you just didn't have any purpose or meaning of being here, It'd be a pretty tough environment. So it's see if things weren't going your way. The Apostle Paul said it better, 1 Corinthians 15, 12. But if it's preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say there is no resurrection of the dead? You know what I'm saying?

Yep. He ended up by saying if there was no resurrection, we're to be pitted more than all men. He's got a great point. Right. Jesus wasn't resurrected. We're done. Yeah.

Well, what's the point? And he even said, look, I mean, if I just... People without faith live what is the point of it all. And that's why the suicide race so high. They just said, there's nothing to anything. Right. And he made the point. I'm just a glob of molecules floating around on planet earth.

And I've lost my way. And I'm just depressed with the whole thing and bored and scared. So I think I'll just do myself in to get it over with. It happens all the time, unfortunately. I think, too, there's a verse in here that I don't think anybody knows what it means. But back then, I think it was so much more believable that there is a God and Jesus came back from the dead. Because I guess maybe they were closer to that. You know, when he got in 29, he said, if there's no resurrection, what will those who do who are baptized for the dead?

If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? I've been asked many times, you know, what that means. but I think they just thought, man, they missed it. Yeah. Which leads us, there's another question that says that we were going to cover, or have we already? Well, I read it, but we hadn't got there. Yeah, when he said, why did Jesus say in, is it Luke 9?

Well, there's two places, and I put them both in those, Matthew 8, because the Luke version is a little different than the Matthew, and I thought we'd read them both. So the Matthew 818 says, when Jesus saw the crowd around him, he gave orders to cross to the other side of the lake. Then a teacher of the law came to him and said, teacher, I will follow you wherever you go. Jesus replied, foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the son of man has no place to lay his head. Which was a nice way to say I'm homeless. Yeah.

And you sure you want some of that? another disciple said to him, Lord first let me go and bury my father. But Jesus told him, follow me and let the dead bury their own dead. Because he's the author of life and everybody is dead in their sins. Right. Unless they come to him. He was just speaking of the world. Everybody sins.

Everybody dies. They're already dead. They've sinned. I think it, I guess it bothers people because it sounds harsh, you know. Well, because they're like, well, man, he's, he, he, was trying to go comfort his family. I'm the only one that can forgive sin, and you've asked me what you should do. You should follow me because I'll remove your sin.

The ones who don't follow me, let the dead bear their own dead. But speaking of missing the forest for the trees, Jesus could have known that he was just going there because he had reward money coming, inheritance or what, you know what? He's like, I mean, it could have been that. I mean, the rich young ruler of the same way. He was like, hey, I've done all these things. He said, go sell everything you have. Well, that sounds a little harsh.

Yep. So let me read. They're a little bit different in the Luke 9, 57 through 62. He says, Lord, first let me go and bury my father. Jesus said to him, let the dead bury their own dead. But you go and proclaim the kingdom of God. So Luke words a little differently. And then another says, I will follow you, Lord.

But first let me go back and say goodbye to my family. Jesus replied, no one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God. Well, that seems a little hard. Right. But what about when he said, where's that Matthew 12, where he said, they came and told Jesus he was in a circle and they were praying. And they said, hey, your mom and brothers are out there. And he said, how did he say that? This is my mother and father of my brothers.

Yeah. He looked at his disciples and said, here's the ones. Here's my bad. Which I think it's the same principle in that. It is. In Jesus, you're part of it. a forever family. And so these people in your daily life,

if it's focused on Jesus and trying to help others be a part of this, it's a better existence. The people who are already dead, or you're saying goodbye to my family, well, if it's the only hope there is, he's the only hope there is. He said, you better listen to what I have to say about it.

But if they're part of the forever family, guess what? There is no goodbye. That's it. Let's take another break. So my take on it is, is that the context of what he's dealing with, and you saw it in the Matthew text, so you got all these people that are following Jesus around. And then every once in a while, a pretty big chunk of them would say, we believe in you.

Remember John 8? Those people said, oh, we believe you're the one. And then he started talking some more. What turns out, they didn't believe at all. Nope. Because that was the one's he changed. Well, they believed in their fitting Jesus. into their narrative.

Exactly. So what I think is, it's belief with a master. Jesus, this is pretty harsh, but what he's showing is, is the minute you can make any excuse that he doesn't, he's not your Lord, then you started down the road now. What any excuse that keeps you from following Jesus is not good. He said, if you love me, you would do what I said. I said, they said, you claim to be Abraham's here. And he said, no, you're not.

He said, Abraham loved me. But you don't. Right. You're not paying attention. He said, you belong to your father. He's the father of life. Speaking of harsh. But he also said in that same chapter, he said, you don't come to me because you don't

have any room for me. He said that two or three times. And he said, well, what's he talking about? He just didn't fit the narrative. Yeah. And I think that's really what it is. People look at Jesus. and they try to fit him in to their life

because he said that two or three occasions which I always wondering what that meant when I was first Christian. I was saying, there many room. Because you're looking at it wrong. You've got to just say, hey, will you accept me?

Where are we going? Because if you really believe in the resurrection, which leads to Jesus, then you'll see these people again. Well, think about, though, how many people want Jesus a la carte? I don't want the whole meal. I just, I need a little side of Jesus, you know, for when I'm down or when I'm, you know, feeling spiritual. I'm having trouble with his demands about behavior.

Yeah. I just need a little bit. So this is the point. You're either all in or you're not. I mean, and I think that's his point to any of them. And remember, Jesus had several. You mentioned a rich young ruler. He had several people where he was a pretty good judge.

of, you know, their thought processes. About as good as it comes. Remember Simon, you know, and he was sitting over there, mean, thinking mean thoughts about that woman. So Jesus knew. He was like, you're just making excuses. Very seldom, if ever, I'm saying ever, do you run upon somebody who is the mistake-free being

that will conquer death for you? Yeah. Make you alive. Because, you know, death is right there staring you in the face, so is sin. He said, I'm, I can get rid of both of them. Yeah. I'm going to do that.

But you don't believe in me. Right. You're trying to kill me. They thought by kidding him, we'll, we'll finish this up. We'll show them what we're going to do. Right. Well, his death saved him. Yeah.

Exactly. That's why they all were cut to the heart in Acts too when Jesus said, I mean, when Peter said, he pointed to Jesus, he said, he's the one you've been waiting on. I'm one who's been waiting on right here. That's what Peter was saying. Right. You know, when they heard it, they were cut to the heart. A lot of them said, what in the world?

You mean, I are killing him, that murdering him saved us from our sin. He said, he's the ultimate sacrifice. You all been sacrificing all these animals. Your Messiah is here. Right. And there were some who believed. So that's the starting point. Well, we've talked a lot.

I mean, through the years, we've all helped lead people to Christ that, I mean, their families weren't excited about their decision for a lot of different reasons. I mean, and we've, we told them through the years, look, you've got to do this for you. You know, you can't just do it for somebody else. And I think those are the hard things you get into is something like this. I mean, it happens. I think a good verse to read for that question when he said, let the dead bury their own death, is when we were in Romans 8 in verse 9, where he said, you're not controlled by the sinful nature by the spirit if the spirit of God lives in you.

and if anyone does not have the spirit of Christ, he doesn't belong to Christ. But if Christ is in you, even if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. And if the spirit of Him, who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you,

he who raised Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies through a spirit who lives in you. That's it. I think he was given that point. point in that moment, of course, he probably thought what we would think. Well, good grief. You don't even want me to go to the funeral? Because when you really think about it, if you're concerned about your family member at the funeral,

I hate to tell you this, it's too late. Too late. That's over. I mean, I go, but I realize I reflect and we deal with the people. that are alive, but whatever you have to do there, that, that, that ship has truly sailed. Right. And remember, they asked him. They said, well, we want to follow you.

He said, well, okay. Well, let's go. I don't have anything, you know, but you sure you won't in on some of this action. Oh, I'm ready. But first, let me go do something else. I mean, thank you. You're telling the son of God that. Well, indirectly.

I got pressing matters, you know. I'll get back to you. Indirectly, Jesus was like, I'll take care. I can take care of that funeral. That guy, I mean, but, you know, they're not thinking he's a supernatural. I always thought, even if you think you have a good excuse, if it's an excuse for not going all in on Jesus, it's not good. Never good. But not.

And the minute you make one, then you make somewhere down the road, you start back. You also know now where they got the idea, just like most shows, of the walking dead. That's right. This is where it came from. Zombies. Everybody's always been tree by the zombies. Isn't that funny? It always comes back to something you're like, oh, that's where they got.

Right out of the Bible. And when one of them got a head shot on one of them, they went out to and buried him. The zombie. Yeah, you had to shoot them in the head, whatever that meant. All right, let's take another break. All right, so here's one from Robert. He says, when it says, let us make man in our image, which is Genesis 1, 26. Who is us and our?

Who is God referring to? Obviously, it seems like more than one. So that's this question. Well, a good place to go was Jesus himself when he said all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. He just conquered death. He is God.

Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations and you baptize them the name of the Father, that's the one who sent Jesus. And of the son, that's the one that's doing the talking right now who just beat the grave and has back, been raised to the life. life. So I see Father who sent him, son who died for us and was buried and raised from the dead, and of the Holy Spirit. I see Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, whoever asked that question,

what's his name? Robert. Robert, you're never going to understand fully one being who had three entities incorporated as Father, Son, Holy Spirit. I've never heard of that. I've never heard of that. And I've never read that anywhere else but in the Bible. Right. And to get your mind wrapped around it, it's a bugger. But the bottom line is it's plain that God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Well, and my take always is... That's Matthew, by the way, Matthew 28, Robert.

And then read Luke 135 when Mary was told how this is going to work, the power of the spirit, the Father sent the son. You got John 14, 16, 17. You got Romans 14, 17, and 18. So there's a lot of verses that mention Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. To get a good grasp of that in a human being's head, it's a tough one to, they've debated over that one and come up with all kinds of stuff. But our God is three essences somehow. And yet he's one, which is different because some people have.

have habit as three different gods. That's not the way he describes himself in any of the errors. So it's kind of, but you know, when you think about it, he said, he made, let us make man in our image. And then that's exactly what happened. Because when you make a human being, we have three components to our essence of who we are. We have a body.

We have a spirit, an animating force that makes us, and spirits are different. And then we have a soul, which is a. a spiritual part of us that yearns to be like somebody, well, I think it's the one who made us. So if you think about it, it really makes perfect sense that a three-pronged entity is the only way I know I describe it, would make us a three-part person.

That's correct. Because if you die, all of a sudden, their body's there, no spirit, no soul. Yeah. It's just a body, you know? And there's not. going to move. It's not going to be. If there's no soul and spirit, we're not getting out of here. That's exactly right. But you remember in John 1, it said, in the beginning was the word,

and the word was with God, and the word was God, which would make sense that when God the father said, let us make man in our image, where you read from another place in John 1 that says, well, he was with God in the beginning. It helps you wrap your mind around. And by the way, John Genesis 1 says the earth was formless and empty and the Holy Spirit hovered over the waters. He just said in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. John 1 1 says Jesus was there with him and the power, the spirit was hovering. But who was hovering over the waters? Right.

God was. That was my attempt to say, but who was on? first. What was on second? Well, what was the guy that came in John? Yeah. Yeah. That was God, too. But he just, he was the word. Another good way to think about it, you've described it this way for is, is you see the three entities in eras. So everything, the Old Testament, everything from creation to when Jesus got here, was featured more of the Yahweh, the father, the ancient of days. But he said, I'm coming in human form. And you still saw the Holy Spirit because there would be different times where the Spirit would

indwell somebody. So he was working in the old testament. But it was mainly, the Holy Spirit mainly worked on people. Right. Correct. Not in them. That's exactly right. You didn't have a mass indwelling until we get to the post.

Well, because then he poured it out so everybody could get it. But there were a few instances. But you know, we also had a, we had a donkey that got indeweled. It did. but I think it was more it came on him in his presence. Right. That's true. When he speaks of God being with them in the Old Testament,

this is way before God became flesh, Jesus. There was a rock that followed all the Jewish people when God was doing all these wonderful things, dreadful things, the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. So he was there the whole time from the beginning. word. But look, Phil, what's confusing that I think the Holy Spirit through the writers made clear.

When it says in the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God, he was with God in the beginning. Now, you just read that he was actually, because that's 1st, Corinthians 10, he was accompanying this march with Moses, and you're like, well, wait a minute, Jesus was there in that moment. Jesus was there in that in that moment well he was the word it's calling him the word which I think it's not a stretch to say it was God's communication I mean I think when God used words because let's face it he's only using words for our benefit he's he's beyond work it's like he's the dictionary you know so and I think that's why you also have the tower of

Bible and all the languages and I mean God just did this so we weren't bumping in to each other literally like the walking dead yeah because they're going uh uh but he he gave us life and he gave us language and so now he's using Jesus as an illustration for us to wrap our head around well he was the word so you're like okay I get that he was the the communication he was there all along but then he becomes flesh in verse 14. But verse 3 of John 1 is an interesting thing because it says, because this doesn't seem to fit. Through him, all things were made.

Without him, nothing was made. So even though he was deemed the word for our benefit, he was in on the making of everything also, which shows you he is God. Well, it was a word that created, and he said he is a word. That's what I'm saying. And then Romans 9-5, I think, is the exclamation point because it says you can trace his human history, his genealogy of Jesus, who is God overall, forever praised.

Wrap your head around that. Let's take another break. And remember, Jason, John 14, Jesus told the disciples, because they didn't want him to go. He said, I got to go. I'm going to go for a place for you. He said, unless I go, I can't send you. do the spirit. So again, he put that in the context of the Godhead had planned this out the whole time exactly what was going to happen. And so he was like, I got to go back. Now God, I'm going to be

mediating for you, but the spirit's going to live in you. Yeah, God lives in us through his spirit. His spirit. I'm sure there's like 17 people out there saying, yeah, but what about Ephesians where it says there's one God and father of all who is over all through all and in all. Yep. He's one. And yet there's three parts of it. I thought there was three. Nope.

He's one. Is he three? Yep. But he's one. Yep. Which is like saying Jay's Roberson, he's one. You're one person, but there's three components to who you are. Do you have a problem?

You've heard the theologians expound on link these issues, but now you've heard it from the C plus minds. Well, Phil, do you have a problem if I eat an egg and I say, I split it up? Because some of these yuppies, you know, they won't eat the yolk. Yeah, it's too fat, too much fat. And some of the rednecks won't eat the shell. But is it all an egg? Is it multiple eggs? Just one.

It's one. But we have three distinct, but it's one egg. But the difference between God and an egg is you can't separate God. He can be shown because he's God. One of the reasons I follow Jesus Christ and His Father by the power of the Spirit is that egg. I look at that egg. I said, I get it. That's right.

And what came first? I've said this before. We actually know the answer to that riddle, the chicken or the egg. What was it? When you read Genesis, he made the animals, the chicken. You couldn't have an egg unless you had a chicken lay the egg, right? He made the chicken. He said he made all the animals.

And all of a sudden, an egg popped out. And what got me was that somebody looked at that, that egg came out of that chicken's butt. And somebody looked at that and said, hmm, I don't know if it had to be any good to eat. They didn't look at it until Genesis 9. Something happened in Genesis 9 when he said, hey, you can eat all this stuff. Think of a world without Jesus, and then while you're at it, whoever asks the question, what's your name, Robert? Robert. Robert, and then all you have to do, my man, go in the fridge and set an egg in front of you.

You say, do you realize how much good comes out of that? Start with pies, cake, breakfast, I mean, an egg is a major influence on human beings' life. That's right. Because, I mean, it's a lot of stuff you can do. There has to be a god if you look at an egg. Right. But I told you this. But so is milk.

Cows milk. But whoever said, look down there before the milking of the cow took hold and said, yeah, I'm going to try that. And all the advantages of the milk gives you. Oh, yeah. All the whatever. I'm going to grab that utter and what comes out of it. We're going to drink that. Well, if you look down and saw a human being under cow under a cow in the first few days and you're like, you're talking about a weird,

Lock that guy up. That's a sick individual. What are you doing? I'm going to get me something to drink here. And that's where you're looking. I mean, you're talking about a sick. What kind of sick world are we in? So, then, look, the thing about eggs,

and you just keep coming up with new things. The other day, I come in there in Stone, because, you know, Stone's always thinking. Most things that come out of things, rear in. Haneous rear in. You can't use them. But in the case of an egg, yep.

So look, I come in there, I get on from a trip. I said, Stone, what are you cooking us tonight? You know, because Stone's kind of our camp cook. He said, I got something new. I'm trying. I said, oh, I like trying the new stuff. So he took hamburger, made him a grilled hamburger, but he made a depression in the top of it.

And he puts all these on his smoker. And then he put an egg. He just put an egg. He just put an egg inside there. And then he wrapped a piece of bacon around it and he put it on the smoker. It sounds delicious. Oh, it was incredible. I mean, that egg cooks in the top of that burger and you got your bacon on there too.

And you can cook it over easier. Yeah, right. You can get it as if you like it really runny or if you like it a little more cooked through. And so that's what he did. That's what he came up with. It was a bread. I mean, it was a hamburger with a egg. Well, you erroneously called him a cook, but I would think he's,

He's maybe online being a chef. Well, he's getting there. His credibility is. The night, I ate a soft shell crab, which is unusual. So good. I don't, I haven't researched soft shell crowds, but I know at some point in their existence, everything gets soft. And at that moment, you can eat the whole thing. Yeah.

And I did. I mean, guts and all. Was it good? It was phenomenal. Delicious. So I'm like. It's a little soft fry on it. Just they kind of fry it on the outside.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, if you just looked at food stuffs and stepped back a minute and just say, you know what? But who figured that out? There's one or two sources. Salt water or God. I just think I lean toward God.

Yeah. A creative process. And you do the same thing with a sardine. You put him in a little oil and just eat the whole thing. Yeah. Guts and all. And it's good. Yeah.

Dad was eating something for lunch. You do smell like that. I keep a cabinet full of sardines. A few hours because it lingers. Yeah, it's got a little bit of an after. The belching will take place for at least six hours. No, that's just some of your stomach problems. That doesn't bother me, sardines.

Not at all. Remember, Jason, you can't smell. I've been in a mini of duck blind after you ate a can of sardines and you'll be down there and go, wow. You know, you're... Blow. And I'm like, sorry. because I do the same thing.

That's amazing that we were talking about the deity, about the Godhead and all that, and we've now... Well, the point is... We've fallen into a hole. Because you're going back to creation when he asked that, and I was just making the point that they were all present. There is no other rational explanation in the creation process.

I think it's a... I think for somebody noticing, that, that's good. That is good, yeah. Because he's saying, let us make man in our image where there was nobody else there. Right.

But people want, they're conspiracy theorists, you know. I mean, it's like, you know what they say. You've heard that joke, three conspiracy theorists walking to a bar.

What they say? It can't be a coincidence. You know, I heard that. I hadn't heard that. That's pretty good. But that, I mean, they're like, well, who else was there? Because he said, let us make man. Oh, he's got, there's some other God out there.

I mean, I think that's where the question is coming from. But it's like, no, he's a complex being. He's not complex to himself, but he is to us because it's hard for us to wrap. I think if you just take a little time and read the book of John, then you're going to be pretty clear, because Jesus is very clear on basically what the layout is in terms of his relationship with the Father as well as the Spirit, that they're all functioning in different ways, but they're one. And so, I remember Jesus' own words are pretty good. I remember vividly before I had the Spirit of God and me, and just to put it bluntly,

there's a vast difference walking around on planet Earth without the Spirit of God. And when you receive the Spirit of God, and you can't receive the Spirit of God, And you can't receive the Spirit of God unless you hear about the Father who sent the Son. That's exactly right. He's the Word. A lot of people ask me that because they're like, well, how come y'all focus so much on Jesus? Well, you focus on Jesus because he's the image. He's the relatable communication part of God of understanding.

Yes, you get the Spirit. You're led by the Spirit. It's awesome. You experience the fruit of the Spirit. And you're looking at God as your father. And if you're baptism. is tied to the Father, son, and Holy Spirit, according to Jesus.

Here's the son talking. He said, I'm going to go make disciples, and here's what I want you to do. You baptize them in the name of the Father, son, and Holy Spirit. And people say, well, here, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just said, just do it. Just do it, man.

Well, and, you know, when we went to, Jason and I went to school, I understood Jesus because he changed my life. I understood the Holy Spirit because I was watching the transformation. but when I studied the Old Testament for me personally, it really clicked in for me that the whole history of humankind

was getting us ready for the moment. So that's why I like the Old Testament study too. So thank you, Robert, for the question. And you guys, Jeff, and thank you, Jen, and others that send them in. We got one more, but we're going to do it next time we get back into Romans, so from Jared. So we'll do his when we get to Romans 12.

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