Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 324 | Miss Kay Gets Sassy with Jase & Jase Makes People Want to Beat the Daylights Out of Him

Episode Date: August 8, 2021

Jase and Miss Kay explain Phil’s unusual way of dealing with traumatic and serious situations. Jase and Al are joined by Miss Kay and their Aunt Ann to talk about their childhood and what it was like to grow up in rural Louisiana. Jase describes his many near death experiences, including a car wreck that he thought sent him to hell. Miss Kay recalls Phil's words to her after she woke up on a ventilator after life-threatening surgery. Jase relives the time he got shot in the head by a trash fire. And Al remembers the many times Jase and Willie were punished even though he intentionally started the trouble. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Dad, as we talked about on the last podcast, is on his way to, I guess Houston. Houston. To speak at Dusty Hill, the Zizi-Top guitarist, his funeral, which was really a neat thing. We were talking about to yesterday on the podcast. My dad, I can tell he's, like, really honored. So in his place, since he's so every part, he's. placeable, you know, because he's Phil.

I decided to invite mom and mom's sister for the first time, Ayn Ann, is in the house. In Ann. Everybody meets A&N. She's the older sister, but she actually gets around better than mom. Thanks, Al. We want that noted. I mean, is it not true? It is.

What about it? I know, a new bandage. Is that something else we can? Yeah, there's another one right here. had another one on her arm. All right. So more injuries for mom. So first of all, this is the first time you've made a public appearance other than your, I guess, TMZ interview.

But this first time you've been out since the Bobo episode. So our fans have been praying for you and asking about you all the time. So tell everybody how you're doing? And how's Bobo? Bovo still. You look like you've made a miraculous recovery. It really, I can hardly even tell. Well, that little, huh?

is out. Just so you know, I had it in a zip-lock bag at the hospital. And the doctor said, what is that? I said, it's the part he pulled out of my lip. So were you thinking he might could sell that? Yeah, I said, I took it. He said, Miss Kay, you've watched a lot of TV about things like this. Yeah, this, this ain't ER. A famous story. Well, we better not yet. I'd get off on that. Well, so I said, I thought you could use it to fill in. He said, no, not in this case. He said, maybe if it had been an arm or leg or a finger or something like that,

but this little bitty chunk of lip is useless. He just took it and chunked it in the trash can. Making me nausea. It's nothing like eating the chick-fil-a-biscuit. How do you make the decision during this trauma for somebody to say, get the lip, get the lip. Well, it was just laying there after the thing. And I thought, you know, I've seen it on a lot of shows that they can fill in.

Yeah, reattach it. Yeah, reattach it. And he said too many TV shows, Ms. Kay, we can't do that. So there were a couple of things in your favor from what I understand. So since now I've learned more about what happened because Lisa was there. So the ER doc was going to stitch you up. But then there was a surgeon on call who happened to be in the hospital. That's correct.

And then when he heard who was down there, he came down and took over and so did. Right, he did. So you got like a little extra, not that the R.Dop probably wouldn't great, but you got like an actual surgeon. I did. I needed a surgeon. You did. And he did a good job. Yeah, he did.

So no pain or nerve feelings? No, I mean right now. No. I obviously knew it was painful. Take off part of your lip and see if it hurts. I mean, right now, are you pain free? Well, I'm kind of come in with a little bit of attitude today. I guess it's from sitting in to add's chairs.

You've got a little spunk to her. Well, I have to keep up with y'all. No, actually, if you mash it, those two places, it is still a little bit sore. But other than that, it's not sore off. All your stitches are gone. Is that right? I hope so. It was so funny because when they were sticking out, it just looked like white hairs in my lip.

I kept having the urge to just reach over and just like, you know, plucked a little bit. Everybody did. I know. Why is that? Why don't anybody want to do that? That's really not. Not me. I mean, I wasn't going to do it, but it just, I kind of want to say, man.

You got a little something right there. You don't have hairs going out of your lips. But so not, but you don't have any, like, nerve, everything's, you feel everything and all that. I'm fine now. I just have a chunk missing. Well, dad said, dad said on the podcast. when we were talking about that he thought you should get a little Botox. And I don't know how even knows what Botox is.

He heard it on TV. He's heard that on TV. He has no idea about it. But you're really done now, right? No, no. I decided. They said I could go to plastic surgery and have it fixed perfect. Yeah.

But I've decided because we have somebody that's had trouble with their mouth in of older times. and she's done much and she is perfect and I want to be not perfect. I want to be just who I am. You and me are very close. You know, do stuff up together all the time. So it is kind of neat, I guess. Well, I hadn't told her.

I just decided that because, and then somebody in the family said, well, somebody said you may do some commercials and they would want your lip fixed. And I said, well, if they want me, they get me and the broke lip or not me. I don't think anybody's going to know. No.

The commercials we would do would be for pain and being broken down anyway at your age. So we don't have to worry about that. Right down, Alan. So the more. The first time somebody came up to me and said, your nose is crooked. That was a couple years ago. I looked in the mirror and I thought, you know, it is.

Because I've had my nose broken like five times, I guess, in my life. Well, I didn't even know. Speaking about people with accidents. It didn't just me. Who else is it? Well, Jason had his nose broke five times. I didn't know where you were going. I didn't either.

I didn't either. So when Jace was growing up, there's no doubt he was hands down the hurt the most. Like he went to the ER more than any of the other boys. And thanks, Jays, because we had no insurance, you know. We had to pay that out. I found that out later when I wrecked that truck. It took me five years. Me and you pay that off.

Yeah. There's a reason it's against the law not to have insurance. But Kay was like, if you don't have it, if you don't have the money to get it, you don't have it. So I told the story before on the podcast, but mom's on here now, so I won't tell the whole story. But I told the story about that time I was driving that car you had from Melissa, a little white Ford. Yeah. My car was down, so I borrowed it.

Well, you didn't tell me that it had no insurance. And I got pulled over by Monroe cop. And they took the car, the impounded the car and left me sitting on the side of the road. That's what they're supposed to do. I know. I'm not saying anything wrong. I'm just saying, I was like, and I had no idea. I was like, well, this isn't my car.

He said, well, you're responsible. You're driving it. And so they took it. So I don't know what that cost. Well, probably a lot to get that out of impound. $400, $400. When we were poor. I know one thing.

It was August in Louisiana and I was sitting on the side of the road. That was hot. With a box of videos. I was on my way of the hospital. I was on the mission of mercy. We've all had those moments. Yeah. How about laying out at VJ's, Jace?

And daddy sits in blame before we called the ambulance. Wish your lab. We were poor. But nobody knows who, what that's when I had the wreck, which was right by a store. You pretty much have to go by to get out of here. Right. Well, that was. Y'all just happened to be coming along, I believe, or did y'all get a call?

I was bad. No, I think they called them. They called. Yeah. See, y'all rushed out there, and there I was all bloody, lay it on the side of the way. And then Phil said, what cause this? I mean, I'm like, shut up. We got to call the hospital, get him up there, quit.

You can accept us blame later. What's ironic is, is Jason and I typically, every day we rode in together to school. But that day, I was sick. And Jace drove, was by himself. And I had just got new tires. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, I had to get new tires on the truck.

And so I just bought those tires lifespan was about 20 minutes. I hadn't heard that. I know. Well, they said when I woke up in the hospital or whatever, I said, did somebody get those tires? That was your first thought. Yeah, they thought, oh, he hasn't recovered over the. Yeah. Well, we tell the story because, you know, Phil typically, typical.

dad because now he kind of just kind of hangs his head every time we bring stuff like this he was like you know assessing blame his first thing was you know why why would a man turn right in front of another oncoming vehicle he was standing over me all my eyes because i was in and out of consciousness had glass all in my head and i got a big scar your chin was cut yeah yeah i still have that scar but the beard hides it but uh which i don't just gave it a little more personal I thought, because of what was almost miraculous about the reason that I didn't get poked in the eye with glass or anything, because I had a hat on and I didn't have my seatbelt on, which...

And you, the people that saw it all happen said you went halfway out the passenger window. I did. And then back in. I mean, that he was... Well, it spun. The truck spun eight times. And then I had a light pole. I mean, that guy hit me with a...

He was going over the speed limit. And he was pulling a truck. Yeah, I mean, thousands of pounds. Okay. And just, I was in a standard operating truck. It was super lightweight pickup, too. It was one of those old Chevroletes that was super light. And I was going to go, and it kind of stalled.

And then he just topped the hill. It's a dangerous place. It's been multiple wrecks. Just under a rise, you know. So I just tried to slam it in gear and gun it, but I put it in second instead of first, because it just happens so fast. But at least he didn't hit me head on. But he hit me and I just started spinning, so they say.

But this cap bill went over my face. And so the only place that wasn't glass sticking out was right in my eyes. Right where you needed it. Like my chin and neck and ears, they removed one big piece of glass while I was laying there out of my ear. I mean, I was bloody. I looked in the mirror and it was just solid blood because it was draining down. on the top of my head. Yeah.

It looked scary. I thought I was dead. But when I came to, Phil said, why would a man pull right in front of this? What were you thinking? Yeah. And I just, like, acted like I was going back out. I don't want to have this conversation right now. I don't feel real good.

I'm not sure all my body parts are attached. I'm not going to answer that question right now. But the best you could have gotten out of him in that moment was, Jace, I mean, you almost died. That would have been the best answer or the best risk. But he said that when I got home. Yeah. He said that for about a week. Yeah.

He's like, do you realize how close to death you were at? I was like, I got it. I was there. Because it was an interesting story. I've told it before. But the first person who checked on me was a guy that we had brought to the Lord who had fallen away or we didn't know his where about. So when I opened my eyes, I saw him and I thought.

You thought you didn't have. Yeah, I said I didn't make it. I didn't make it. Dang it. All that worked for nothing. I was like, I'm so close. I mean, what happened here? Of course, you're kind of delirious and in shock.

It was dramatic. I actually had a meaningful conversation with that fella later. You know, I saw him later on in life. And I used that to get in the conversation, whether he had gotten his life. life straight. Of course, he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, that did it for me, you know. Well, who knows, you know, it's heart. Maybe it did. So, Mom, that reminded me of the time that you almost died during one of your surgeries a few years back.

That's right. And Jeff was still young because Jeff and dad were at the hospital waiting on you during the surgery. The worst two people that could have ever been in a thousand. Lisa said never again after the incident. But when you said, I had to put you on a ventilator. Right. So dad comes in the ICU. room. The first thing he says is, Ms. Kay, you almost died. That was his, which was about as good as you're

going to get. He's wondering, why would a woman, you know, code during the surgery? I mean, like, and then he said, I don't even have, me and Jay, uh, it was being Jeb, don't even have money for a Coke. I mean, do you get any dollars? And I'm like, I can't talk. I'm going to ventilate. She had a ventilator. And didn't he say, uh, I just want you to know that if anything had happened to you, I've decided I'm not going to remarry. Yeah. which was mom just rolled her eye. Yeah. If I could have undid those things I was tied to,

I would have threw something at them on the other. So we had a little pad there for mom so she could communicate because she was awake and aware of it, but she can't talk. And then I handed her the thing. She pointed and I handed it to it and she said, it's all about him. You remember saying that? Yeah.

You wrote that on that fast. I showed to dad and he just kind of went wrong. We've chronicled many times that that is not the most compassionate person. Although he's mellowing and he's much better now, I think. Yeah. And even the way he handled a Bobo incident. Yeah. Because it would be, you know, immediately my fault, why would you stick your head

in a sleeping dog's face? You know, he would have said that. And he didn't say that. No. He told me that. Well, of course he told it to someone. He said that later. But the initial thing, he was concerned about you.

Let's take her first break. So he was concerned, which is really good. Of course, we've laughed about it on the thing because when he described, when Tony told me how, when y'all stopped by, because he wanted to fill us to go with you guys. And, of course, she goes to bed early because he's going to work. But the way he did that, he doesn't go out and knock on the door. He pulls right up to their bedroom window, lights on bright, and starts blowing the horn.

Ten horn blows. Got him out of there. I mean, at midnight. I mean, I was like, dad. Why would you, he said, well, I mean, I was trying to get them up. You know, of course, you know, Phyllis just flew out of there because she knew something was wrong. But Tony was like, he'd be like me. I didn't work.

I mean, work. Poles in my yard and starts blowing the horn at midnight. I'll get up. With your gun. I'll have my gun. We established that on the last bucket. So A&N, for our audience to know, so we, to me, I mean, A&M was like our sanctuary. you are our sanctuary.

When we were kids, you know, we've established, we didn't have much, and we didn't go anywhere because we didn't go on vacations or do anything like that. No money. No money. Yeah. We were poor. We were poor. All right.

We were established that. So, but we were rich in love, you know, especially when dad came around. But I used to go over. And I don't know, Jay, do you remember going to pay and ants and so. So we went to the country club. Right. Yeah.

And it was the first time that, you know, I had a guy say something from a famous movie that says, you know, that said, what are you doing here? And I was like, well, I'm with my uncle. And he basically said the version of some people don't belong. At Vivian Country Club. I didn't have the right attire on. And I was out getting golf balls out of the bushes where people had like hooked them off the first team.

Well, this has a long history of having country club issues. He's still having a man, by the way. I got out there and thought, I heard about that. People were leaving all these balls. in the bushes and they're just walking on by and just leaving them. So I went and started getting them. And I got accosted because back then I just, I was young.

Yeah. I didn't realize you need to do this a little more sneakily. Yeah, I like after door. Yeah. Well, that's what I do. We learned that. Yeah. So we were in our typical, our typical wardrobe in those days was a pair of shorts,

no shoes, no shirt, no service. I mean, that's the way we were. That's the way we roll when we were kids. But we used to come over and they were at the, it was the Vivian Country Club, which looking back at it now is kind of comical to me, that to us, that was like the fanciest, I mean, it was like a, it was like a modular. It's how I view the masters now. I looked around and thought, man, somebody knows how to cut some grass.

Yeah. I mean, because we'd never even seen cut grass before, you know, because dad famously does a cut grass. Never. So, and they had a swimming pool. Yes. And so you would take us over every day. And Uncle Wade started kind of working.

He taught us how to swim. He taught me how to dive. I remember that. And then he taught us ultimately how to pay golf. Yeah. Which was really neat. So I just, I don't know. I just look back on those times.

They were such a, they were so meaningful to me now, you know, just because we had that place to go. And then usually we'd go. I'd stay a week with Nanny as well up and out. And so I just, you know, those memories are so still strong after 50 years. you know, of doing that. Oh, yeah. So thanks for taking us all those years.

Well, I loved you boys. Yeah. Well, it became our Disney World, you know. It was like, y'all going to Disney World. I don't know, but there's a place over here where my, my N-N-N lives that's awesome. Yeah. Well, and then y'all always, from that point forward, like, even when you moved away from Vivian, because you weren't on the country club there, but when you moved to Texas, first down around

Galveston or wherever Houston and then. It was down Houston, Friendswood. And then Tyler later, y'all always lived on a golf course. So every time we would come see it, once we got, you know, became adults, we would play golf with Uncle Wade. And he gave me my first set of clubs when I was a teenager. I'll never forget it. I guess you gave them to me. But it was a brand new set of tideless clubs that he had won in a golf tournament.

And he gave them to, I was a teenager. And then those clubs passed down because like as soon as I got some clubs, they went to Jace. And then Jace gave them to Willie and they just kind of went down the line. But, you know, I thought about it. If it hadn't have been for you guys, we probably never would have ever learned how to play golf. Oh, my goodness. We were never going to do that around here. No.

Well, Phil thought that was silly. Oh, yeah, silly. Well, like mowing the grass. Yeah. When he said the frost will get it, I was thinking, do I now? The frost will get it. Yeah. And he kept saying that.

I said, no, I'm talking about mowing the grass. He said, the frost will kill the grass. Just give it time. It's the cycle of the Almighty's, though? He's like, yeah, it seems high now, but it'll cool off in a few months. Frost to get it. I thought, oh, you don't like more than that grass. Well, once we moved out here, there really was no grass, right?

I mean, it's never really, it's just kind of dirt and mud everywhere on your place now. But Uncle Wade taught us how to play golf. Remember, we set up, we dug holes, and we played a version with sticks and balls. That's where I first played golf was literally a self-made golf course on the river. On the river. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, like I said, you can tell everywhere we lived, we lived on a golf course because he did love golf. And I was thankful that he got to play for that many years, you know, enjoyed his retirement. He was hilarious to play with. He had a, he had his own, he provided his own commentary for where he messed up on it. Oh, yeah. He was like, Wade, put your head down. I mean, he had swing, you know. Keep my head down.

Keep me head down. It was really comical. And then Willie and me, all of us. I got to where we would imitate him when we weren't playing. So then, and it still carries on because every once in a while we'll be playing and I'll go, I'll keep me hitting now. You know, I got like an Uncle Wade chastisement of myself, which is really funny. But I always appreciated that he took that time with us because you had two daughters.

Yes. One of them has gone on to be with the Lord, unfortunately. Last year, which was a hard year. But Connie is there. So you had boys for the first time with us, right? Well, yeah, see, I had the girls and Kay had the boy, so I got y'all. Yeah. And we've always been closed, so.

Yes. Well, it's been, it's been neat, Annan, because you've kind of, I mean, Uncle Wade's been gone. How many? Six years. Six years. And so, but it's, you've been in relatively good health, and so we've gotten to spend a lot of time. You go on vacation with us every year. How long have we been doing that, going to girls'ores with us?

20-something years. Yeah. And so you're the, you're the dad. replacement because we've established dad's not going to the beach he well who would warn him to go well one yeah yeah that's what everybody else would you want him to go like how come your dad don't go i was like nobody wants to including him he don't want to he don't want to go we don't want him we don't want him there well see way never wanted to go like that so that's why kay and i've always gone places together yeah i'm not really a beach guy but i do go just we know for the family you know yeah when you

see me on the beach well i do a few things. I fish down there. And this year, I actually metal detached a little bit, which was kind of fun. Yeah. But I don't like the hot sand and the salt water and the creatures that are, I don't like being in close proximity to things that can get. What about roasting in the sun? You like that, don't you? Not at all. I seem that. And the fact that a lot of, mostly women just do it on purpose, I just don't get it. They're like, oh, this is awesome. Just roasting. In the sun. I always just think of the little rotissary with chickens going around.

And I think, why would you want to do that on purpose? If I was a chicken, you had no choice. But if I'm a human, I'm not just going to roast out here in the sun. Not going to do it. Well, up until the last, out of all those years, up until the last two years, A&N always took our yearly golf picture of the guys because we play golf all week when we're down there and then do family stuff as well. But A&N was always in charge of that. And it was great because she would always remind us.

But then two years ago, because of COVID, y'all didn't get to go. Yeah. And then, or maybe mom was sick. It was her surgery. Oh, her surgeon. I stayed home, took care of her. Right. You stayed here.

And then this past year, of course, we had the Bobo incident. So you went, but you couldn't really do the stuff you normally do because you had to stay out of the sun. Well, the doctor said, don't you dare get that lips burned because you, you know, then you'll have trouble on top of trouble. And of course, Willie hadn't been the last two years either because of various things. So it's kind of, it's different now. And so I said we had a tradition for a long time, but it finally broke. You know, that's okay.

Well, I will say that the week, I mean, he said he was going to take care of me when he didn't. And I will say four days, he brought me lunch down that he made. It was delicious. So he didn't lie about that. He did help take care of me. His family's gotten so big now, and they were having a lot of babies right around vacation time, so they had to stay home. So I want to talk a little bit about, let's take her another break.

I want to talk a little bit about y'all growing up in Idaho, Louisiana. Because A&N's got a great memory. Mom, sometimes you know, you know, sometimes you're wondering, is it real? Did that really happen? And you'll never know. Nope. So you were in. Well, that's why you're here to let us know.

That's right. You're supposed to be passing stuff along. If you can remember. If I can, I'll make it up. Okay. So tell us about the Carraway's grocery because your parents, was that a second generation store for them or who started the store and all that? Papa, well, someone had it and then Papa, our father's father, bought it.

And then Daddy and his brother ran it. And then our first cousin ran it. And that was kind of the place to be. That was kind of a place to be back then. It was the only plus. He got one store. Well, there was a, there's basically, Aida is a crossroads.

And it used to have a flashing light. Now they have an actual light. They have an actual stoplight there. And so right on the corner is this old building that was built in the 20s. On the side of it, it says, 26 or 27, we're not sure. Yeah. That's what it says. Built in 27 or 26 or whatever, we're not sure.

I thought that was pretty funny. They were letting you know. But so, so, yeah. Yeah, and so some of our memories coming, we were kids, they still, your cousins still around the store. And so we would go hang out there and get a snack or whatever. But so that will, so what out did you all just hang out there? Well, I want to tell this part.

Yeah. And with her older than me age, she actually had to go in and really work like our, like our parents did. I mean, she did the rest of you, she did it, everything. Dad made me. Yeah. Yeah. She worked like a slave. Even on Saturdays he would make me go in and work at the store,

and all my friends were going to Vivian's women. So when I came along eight to ten years later... You need to let that go, ain't it? I used to... When I came in eight years later to be in the store, I never physically worked. But my job, which I made it up myself, there was a lot of older women and they were so lonely,

and they would love to just hang out at that store. because they didn't have anywhere else to go. And I had an old-timey heater. You remember that you could burn yourself? And there was no air conditioning. No, we have a giant fan. And the fan. So what I do is go over there and entertain the old women.

I told story after story. And they just loved it. Yeah, and I mean, you know, I run out of real stories, so I went to making them up. But they loved them. I had them laughing all the time. And I said, well, I'll just be the entertainment of the store. which some people got mad because they had to work.

You know. You see who she's pointing to. And I got to entertain. And you've been entertaining ever since. Ever since. And that's why I have no back trouble because I never did a lot of physical work. At least she's honest, Dale. That's true.

Well, who has physical back problems? Yeah. So there's eight years difference between y'all. And so when you left home to go to college, right? Right. And is that where you met Uncle Wade in college? Yes. In college, yeah.

So with that big gap, you know, you were gone, but mom was still young, right? So when you left to go to college, how was, how were you, Mom? I can't figure all that math. Yeah, who would know that, Al? I would know that. Well, she was still little when Wade and I got married, you know, in the wedding pictures. It was Kay, you know. Well, she never liked me when I was little, but I didn't like her either.

because now you are like best friend that's right exactly but just because I got a spotlight when she was out kissing their boyfriend

on the front porch and I put the spotlight on them and then I just run yeah I would run like the devil and then other things I did I went through all her shoes

I wore them while she was gone I went in every drawer she had tore it up I was really not a very nice little kid she was a spoiled brat that's what she was because they when she wasn't at the store,

telling all these stories, she was up at Nanny's house. And Nanny just spoiled her rot, and that's where she stayed. But that's where she learned how to cook, too. You know, Nanny. I love it that your grandchildren and great-grandchildren

call you Nanny now. Yeah, it's kind of a tradition. Our grandmother was Nanny. Yeah, that's really neat. Yeah, we were Nanny and Papa. You see, that's the same as ours. Right, which is cool. And the kids picked them out.

I mean, you know. They called you that first. Yeah. Well, it's the names, like my oldest. daughter. They called her poppy. Now, where that came from, I don't know, but it's tough, you know, Poppy. Yeah, that's what they, that's what my grandkids call Jay's dad is Poppy. Really?

Yeah. So, I don't know. We don't know that either. It's BB and Poppy. And they had picked out something they wanted them to do, but, you know, Carly gets, got the first crack at it. That's right. It was BB and Poppy. Yeah. Which is interesting about kids, right? Yeah, they do their own thing. Whatever. So, I guess everything for, for y'all's family changed when your dad died. And tell us about that. Because you were married in a way.

And you were 14, right? They got me off the school bus right in front of the store. I had to ride the school bus to North Kedal. And I couldn't drive yet. And when she got me off, it was our next-door neighbor.

And I said, why are you getting me off the bus? I ride it at home. And she said, well, we got some problems I got to talk to you about. And so I just said, what are you talking about? Who was this person? My next-door neighbor, Clifford Children's.

Okay. And so then I'm just thinking something's wrong. Well, in my mind, I'm thinking maybe it's my grandma, nanny, you know, because she was older and everything. So before she got to the house, she said, I've got to stop a minute and tell you something really bad. And I said, what is it? And she said, your daddy died today of a massive heart attack in Shreport.

And your mother's not home because she was. so shook up. She called people to come get her, but she told the wrong hospital every time. I mean, there was like three hospitals and three, four, and they couldn't find her. And so I went home, and it looked like 50 cars there, you know, they were everywhere. And so I went in, and there was nobody in my family. I just walked in, and I just went in there to where his chair was and sat down, you know, and I couldn't even cry. You just kind of in shot? Yeah, I was in shot because I wasn't even crying because I said he did not die. Yeah.

I said, that's somebody else. I never heard that. I never knew that there was nobody there. Nobody. It was just all people from town. Of course, I guess everybody knew. That was the church to, you know, people and all. But I was just like, nobody.

God bless them for coming over, so you weren't alone. But still, I mean, that would be hard to not have anybody. Nanny wasn't even there. Nobody was at home, so they had to get everybody. And Nanny was his mom, right? Right. Okay. Yeah.

So how did you? So how did you get the news, Ann M? Well, they called us. Where were you living? We were living in El Paso. Yeah. And when I got the call, we had gone to White Sands, New Mexico for the day, was another couple, and they called and told us.

So, and Yvonne was little. Yeah. See, she was the only one of the grands that Daddy ever got to know. Yeah. And so we had to fly home. Right. Was it, I mean, was it just as terrible as you can imagine? Imagine were you just in shock?

Well, I was in shock too, but, you know, being so far away. And you'd been away a while. Yeah. Yeah. But he was only, what, 49? 49 years old. Wow. I mean, that's Jason and I were both doing that.

And see, his brother was born with a heart defect, and they never expected him to live. And he lived until in his 70s, and Daddy didn't have that. 49 dropped. He wasn't overweight, but he did smoke. Yeah. Unfiltered cigarettes. Hamils. Yep.

That was kind of the thing for his time, right? Let's take another break. Yeah, well, you know, it's always affected me because we got so much time with, you know, with our, with, you know, dad's parents because they lived here. Right. And then, of course, you know, I was super close to nanny. Yeah. And then even your mom, although it was interesting because by the time I have enough memories of your mom, of my grandmother, we call her Bannie. By the time I have no memories of her, she had already kind of gone off the deep end.

Yeah, she was. Because she just didn't do well after he died, right? No. No, she was just in a state of shock. She was quite a big younger than him. Is that right? A few years? She would know that.

Well, I thought that. I'm like you with the dates. I would have had to figure that one, but she was younger. Yeah. But not that many years. Okay. She was probably in her 40s. Yeah.

Okay. Well, I just remember by the time we came along. Now, I loved her because she, you're talking about fun. I didn't realize that she was like drinking the whole time. That's why she was so fun. But I mean, do you remember Jay? Do you remember Bandy at all? No.

You don't? Well, Looneytons are fun sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. But she would, she would like run off the road. Of course, it was me and Connie and Yvonne mostly. Yeah. When she ran off the road.

Jayce was probably there and just little. Yeah, she'd run out the road. And then she would be like, don't tell anybody. You know, we were like, she was drinking the whole time. Nobody really knew what was happening. But I just thought she was a barrel of laughs. She would take us out and go down the street and she was the marching band. You know, we would all be traips along behind her seeing.

Sounds dangerous. In the middle of the road. At night when the saints go marching in. Once again, it's only God's providence could have helped us survive. That's right. That's right. And she died of cirrhosis of the liver. And she was only in her 50s.

58. Yeah. And so, which was tough. And then Nanny died right before that. So that was hard because that basically cut off, you know, other than A-N-A. that cut off any connection to that side of the family. Yeah, with our side of the family. Yeah.

There's not a lot of y'all left. It is interesting because I call you guys the Baldwin sisters. If anybody's old enough to remember the Walton's, there was two sisters on there. I think they had a still. They were moonshiner's. I think so. It's called the recipe. The recipe, that's right.

And that's what reminds me of y'all because it's two fun ladies that like to go and have fun, right? That's exactly right. That's us. We're not dull. And one lady told me, I was so funny. I should have my own show. I know. You are funny, Mom.

And here you are. And here you are. You're on our show. Oh, I know. You're in Dad's spot. Well, I'll tell you one thing. I told Phil that I said, well, I might be overweight a little and, you know, getting older. But I make him laugh.

Yeah, and missing some of my lip. But I make him laugh. I make him laugh every day of his life. He's not bored. I'll agree with that. Jay, at least she's unique now. with their little. Yeah.

Well, what's funny is Kay brought that up, but I, you look perfectly normal. So I don't think so, too. I mean, really, can't even tell. We're not going to know. Nobody, if you didn't know, no one would know. Never, never knows. I'll tell you, when I have an accident, I do it good so it can just come back. Perfect.

Well, every time I see, you have a new bandage owner, a new bruise. Well, speaking of that, my child, which child did I have that I had to take to the hospital the most times? he's right over there. That's what I'm saying. He was so accent prone. A couple of things happened to me when I was young. I cut this eye open.

And then a deer mount fell on my head. I do remember that. I don't even remember the traumatic things around three or four years old. But Jace was like, it seemed like every year it was a broken arm. It was a broken whatever. He got shot in the side of the head out of the... Well, I told you not to put your head over that burning trash in the barrel. You were looking for something.

Played the roll of Phil. will be killed. It actually shot me from about 40 yards away. We were on the basketball court. And the trash barrel was right on the other side of the basketball court. That thing went, and Jay's just dropped like a sack of potato. We all started looking around

what just happened. Yeah, it was just... And there was a little trickle of blood coming out of his temple. A freak accident. I remember feeling kind of oozy. Well, do you remember the time, I told you not to get that close. We were at the gym watching the basketball games. No, that

You got that story all wrong. That was a bully there, and we had tried to whip the bully. So we got all the guys who had any kind of courage. Because this guy was like 18 in the fifth grade. Not really, but he was so much bigger. He kept repeating. And he just was a bully. And so we went out there one day and tried to whip him.

And that didn't work. He whipped everyone on the stand in one spot, just bam. We walk over, bam, bam. So then just the next few days, he was just kind of acting like a sniper and picking us off one by one. And I was sitting on the top step of the bleacher, and he just come up there and push me off. He just, that's how that happened. See, I didn't know that. I thought you just was showing how brave you were to get that close to the edge.

Well, I was close to the edge, but he came up and pushed me out. Yeah. So another trip to the hospital, right? I know it was three in a row, so what was number three? Most parents would say, just say no to bullying. It wouldn't say, how come you were so close to the edge? Did I see him bullying? I didn't know that.

Well, I think I told that story, but y'all didn't believe it. But it actually was true. When I hear that nowadays, I'd laugh too because, I mean, bullying was all, it's been around forever. People act like now, oh, this new thing about people getting online bully, meaning somebody's talking about it, I saw our bullies actually beat us up. Oh, yeah. They pushed me off of a bleacher and sent me to the hospital. This online version of, and I'm not, obviously, I don't want people to do that.

But I'm saying there was more than just your feelings getting hurt. We literally got hurt from the bullet. But I remember this, and I don't know which one it was of y'all. And no, it was probably Willie and Jeb did this. But I thought y'all, and I sure thought you did it, got a friend. that was because yours was that big old boy that played on the football team. I thought y'all got kind of, you know, your own people to fight the bullies. Well, you figured it out.

But at that stage, no friends could beat this guy. I mean, he was just a beast. I remember the first time I read Love Your Enemies in the Bible, that kid's picture, head shot went in my head because, I mean, I hated that guy. Because I was like, oh, it just couldn't whoop him. We tried everything known to me. He was just, I know we got put out of the carnival that night because you got in a fight. I mean,

they asked me to leave the carnival and take him with me. Were you barking for the Tilda World? Were you working? What had happened? Were you guessing people's weights? That was a different, different occurrence. Put out of the carnival. Well, a guy came up and slapped me in the face.

For no reason? No reason. Just came up and slapped me. And so I chased him and caught him. And then we just got into a scrum. This is before the carnival. And so we just, because then the principal came out. So we all got whipped.

So we said, I tell you what, the carnival is tonight. So let's do this right. And so we had our teams. It was four against four. And so we got to the carnival. We walked behind a gym. Well, the problem was two of our friends didn't show. Oh, boy.

So it was four on two. Oh, boy. And me and old Dwayne got whooped. Well, if anybody asked me who fought the most of all my kids, I would have, I mean, it seems so strange to say it was Jason. It doesn't surprise me at all because, I mean, it's just personality. I mean, it makes people want to just come over and beat the crap out of them. That's just the way.

Yeah. I mean, that's where he is. What can you say? Let's take our last break. It's all because I tell people what I think. I don't sugarcoat things. Which I like that. I like people that just tell it straight.

So I have no issue with Jay. I don't like violent. So I would tell us whatever they wanted to hear. I'm just not a violent person. You're not. You're one of the least valid people I know. Although when we were young and when you got riled up, I mean, mom was, she was more dangerous than dad because with dad, you knew what was going to happen. It was the belt.

It was the same process. But mom would just grab whatever was handy. Yeah. And it became the tool by which she would meet out the display. I mean, it could be a pan. It could be the... It sounds horrible, but since you were so small, we were really not in danger. That's true.

That's right. I never felt. Why did you lock me out of the house and then run out the back door and made me chase y'all all the way up the hill, and then I run out of gas. You never figured out of the system involved. We rigged that back door where it wouldn't close, where all you had do, because you could hit it running right and open. And we just were quicker.

So that was always the exit strategy. No, the reason I locked you out of the house is because I was, I was fixed to Willie. I locked the doors. I mean, it really wasn't, it was to keep him in. Yeah. Well, I was saying to keep me on. He didn't want him pulling out the back door check.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I fixed whoop him for something. I forgot what it was. Yeah, I'm sure. Trust me, he needed it. I agree with that.

So Jay's Sunday in my sermon, I had a point in there that the evil one was an instigator of disunity, which he is. You know, he loves instigated disunity among the brothers. And I said, and then I confess. I said, all right, I'm going to start this with a confession because when I was young and Jason, Willie, we were only two years apart. So they were ripe for disunity because it was just natural because of their age. I came out. And so I was an instigator. would create scenarios to put them in situations where they would fight it out. And then, of course,

whenever the discipline happened, I was shocked, you know, that I don't know what's wrong with them. You know, but I was kind of pulling the puppet strings. You know what you call that sneaky snake. That's who you are. Sneaky snake. But I, so everybody laughed when I said it. I said, and I said, he said, that's terrible because you're talking about the evil. And I said, I was confessing. I mean, I'm not proud of it. It's just I got some perverse pleasure out of watching them get disciplined. I never thought he did bad, though, did I? He fooled me completely. You always took up for him. There was two or three spankans I got that I had nothing to do. I did not know the crime and I wasn't there. But, you know, when you're a kid, you say that, they think you're lying. So I always say I never got one that I

didn't deserve. Jay said, nope, not me. That's what I did. Oh, I got two or three. That I wasn't any part of it. Yeah. But see, it didn't hurt you one bit. Look at you now. Well, I learned to forgive through Jesus. Only the grace of God's trickled down, which is true, you know. It is true. You got you got to become followers of Jesus and sons and daughters of God in spite of your parents

and that sounds horrible, but it's true that we're all made mistakes and we're all flawed. I mean, I've said that same thing to my kids. I'm like, because they'll, I'll look back on something I did wrong and I'm like, you know what? I was wrong on that. You're going to have to overcome this despite me

doing that. And so I was just, the difference is I went ahead and just owned it. I just said, yeah, that was bad move. So I was talking to our mutual friend, Jersey Joe, who picked Tannan up the other day and brought her over. Great guy. They moved here from New Jersey back during COVID. And he was, I was saying, I was telling a story,

and it was kind of like we're talking about today, that was being poor and we didn't have this, that, and the other. I was probably talking about coming to your house. Right. And, you know, he said, you know, Al, he said, I've heard y'all tell stories before about it. He said, but you don't realize for a guy like me, He said, we had stuff.

Yeah. His parents had divorced and, you know, they would give them things to try to kind of favor, you know, curry favor. He says, so we had stuff, but he said, you don't realize what you guys had. He said, you were rich in love and you did things together and you pulled together. And he was like, I envy your childhood. Yes. And it was really interesting to hear him say that because, you know, he listens to the podcast,

so he's heard our stories. But I thought that was a great perspective. Yes. I'm thankful for being humble. Me too. humble circumstances. I think even when you negotiate, you know, in the business world, it's always helped me because I thought, I'm not going to be intimidated by somebody threatening to not do this

order like when I used to work with Walmart with the duck calls because I thought, well, we've proven you can be joyous with nothing. Yeah. So, but, you know, in the real world, they use all this material thing as leverage. Right. And if you're if you're not bent by that. But since we weren't like, since there's not like it is now, where you're constantly watching what you don't have on TV.

Your kids watch TV and there's commercials. We don't have any of that. So we didn't know. We thought our lives were great. And we thought you guys were richy rich. You know, we go to your house. We didn't think it was great. It was great.

It was great. I mean, they have a rockabella. That's right. I mean, they have a country club. They have air conditioning, you know. But it was nice that I always remember that. It was like a big, big trip. It was.

It was kind of like our thing every year we look forward to. It was coming over to spend it with it. Yeah, You probably wasn't thinking, boy, we're rich and well off. Well, they were just working. He was working in the old field. I mean, y'all did okay. You were middle car.

And I always worked too, see. It's all about perspective. It is. I was like, boy, we're living it up here at the old Vivian Country Club. A real pool, not a pond. You didn't have to push stuff out of the way. It was just clear water. That was the first thing I said.

I was, I have to get that water this clear, you know. We swam in the river. That's right. Well, in the summertime, you had to go down about five feet before you found cool water. Yeah. That top part is just hot. You know, he's got to get down there deep. But so much of what we talked about, you know, talked about near-death experiences and people in our family, you know, who've gone on to be with the Lord.

I thought about this verse we've been studied in Romans 14. It says, for none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. Because all we've been talking about is family, you know, despite our mistakes and being there for. each other. If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. But I just thought about that verse, because I thought really what binds us together and what's made, I think, us tight to this day, was our focus on the Lord despite all the difficulties and material possessions, and even ones that died before they should have,

and ones that have miraculously stayed alive longer than we expected. That's who's accurate. Wayne and Paul. Yeah. When A&N used to send us a birthday card, all the nephews, every year, and she'd have a little $5 bill or something in there. And that made such a difference because we just never had any money. And so, I mean, I always look so forward to getting that from you.

And so I've told you this point. And now we found some success later in life, which God's blessed us, and to get to share things back with you. Yes. You know, after you shared so much with us. I mean, that's a, it's a pay it forward, you know. And so that's one of my great blessings. Well, y'all have been such a blessing to me,

especially when Uncle Wade passed away. Yeah. Because that was a hard time, and I had y'all and had her. That's right. And still do. Still do. So, Mom, you got a verse there. We're going to about out of time, but share with the shirt.

You brought your own verse? You brought your own verse. I like it. I like it. I want you to read it if you can. good. Well, I didn't want to wear my, I have to get my glasses. Oh, okay. All right. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.

Verse Samuel 16. 7. I like that. It's a verse I've quoted in many a speech because look at me. I like that verse. Thank you. And see, the Lord gave it to me because it was a reason. I did not know what the reason was. Now, no. Yeah. Makes me feel better about it. So, Ann, we love you and so glad to have you on the podcast. I wanted people to be able to meet you because we'll talk about you from time to time and vacation and different things like that. So today's Ladies' Day, the next podcast, we've got a couple more ladies. We're younger and we're growing our female audience and you're helping us do it, which is a blessing.

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