Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 325 | Missy Makes Jase Squirm AGAIN & No One Likes the Name Jase Wants His Grandkids to Call Him

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

Missy’s presence makes Jase extremely nervous, and it never gets old for Al. Jase explains why he was the preaching student with the most visits to the dean's office. Missy is the worst gold digger ever. Lisa confesses she didn't feel worthy of being a preacher's wife and teases her upcoming book with Miss Kay. Missy does her best Phil impression. And Al can't stop laughing at the odd name Jase wants his grandchildren to call him. Visit http://MiaMoo.org - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So it's our second half of Ladies' Day on the Unashamed podcast since Phil is off doing a eulogy today for Zizi Topps funeral, which is kind of weird. But at the same time, he was very humbled by, which I think it's really cool. I mean, he only met him that one time. Well, there was a couple times, I think. Maybe so. We interacted. Yeah.

Maybe so. Just throughout the show. Right. We were at some event together. I remember that. Yeah. But obviously, Dad must have had a big impact on him. You know, and I'm sure, you know, dad talks about spiritual stuff to everybody.

So anyway. Oh, I was in on the conversations with them. It was, it was funny. I mean, it's funny that we're in two totally different worlds. The beards brought us together. And I think the spiritual conversation, they were. They enjoyed it. They liked it.

When I first heard it, I thought, when I first heard that they asked him to speak, I thought, well, I know what he's going to speak about. I thought, what a cool way to introduce Jesus to a whole new audience. That's exactly right. I know he's going to do that. Oh, yeah. And so did he or his wife or whoever had the idea to have him. I mean, they know dad.

Right. They know that. So we got Missy and Lisa, our fair brides back on today because we have, we got, I don't know if I told you guys, but we had a huge response. the last time you guys were on. The highest rated show of all time. I wasn't sure if it was y'all or they just liked to watch me squirm. I think that was part of it.

And that's why I've been wanting to do it again. So I was so excited when Missy sent me in Node and said that she was, I mean, I've already said I've always liked to see Jay Squirm. Dave. Gosh. Here we go again. Really? So I was like, just the chance to see it again is worth having Missy and Jason.

Jay's doesn't like it though. And anybody else is the center of attention. and it's not here we go let's just start throwing haymakers so if his beautiful wife is on here he's not the center of attention it must be this chair jays because first his dad then it was mom and the last five guys now Lisa is the throw jace under the bus seat completely disagree with that statement whatsoever I you know I just want to be left alone that's true that's a true statement well what I love about is because jays obviously tells lost stories on the podcast. And so he'll tell us stories about different interactions y'all have or some argument or all this. Of course, we're only getting his side of it. Yes, I know. I know that.

I can't remember every little detail. I'm going to blanks. So you just lean the stories towards your favor every time. That's right. Look who my mom and dad are. That's very true. They're like, they explained to me one time when I brought up the fact that I didn't think this story had happened that way and my mom and dad both said these things are based on true stories they put that in my brain they said you ever seen a movie that's based on yeah they fill it in for dramatic purposes that's what you do i would say that's right every robertson story is that's right that's right you also got to think about you were trained as a preacher yeah so you and al you know preachers always tend to embellish just a little well we have a license for it and it was actually

Quite a miserable experience for me. I'm glad I did it because there was some benefits. I learned the Bible. I got confidence, but I was just with a bunch of nerds for two years. Chase doesn't look back as finely on our school years. Those were not easy years. Those were not easy classes and that was hard. We became known as the preaching student who had the most visits to the dean for various infractions.

Mainly for sleeping. I just never could figure out that. Well, that was one of the great qualities I learned there, is how to sleep with your eyes open. And I'm proud of that. But most of the stuff I got called in for was a violation of the rules. And I was like, I thought we were here to learn about grace. You've come up with a rule system. Remember, they had a dress code.

And I'm like, I'm opposed to that for biblical reasons. No tobacco products. But how many years were those rules in effect? You think you were going to roll up in there at like 19, 20 years? old and change all those rules? Yes. That's exactly what I thought. That's exactly what I thought and I was

passionate about it. But guess what? It was a band of one. Yes. My own brother would not follow me. He was like, hey, I don't know what happened. I heard this story about mom dropping him as a kid. I went with him.

I had to create some distance because he was pulling me down. I want to be, I wasn't part of the resistance. I was with him in spirit, but in actuality, no. Yeah. Well, you know, when we were dating and then, you know, the story of them coming down here and recruiting y'all and all that. And I was like, no, no, because I grew up with a dad as a preacher. And I said, I don't think about that. I'm not marrying a preacher.

Like, that's not happening. It's years of no money. And, you know, I mean. You take a vow of poverty that you didn't know you took. Yeah. It was not fun for me as thinking as like, I don't want the rest of my life to be the same thing. You're such a gold digger. I am.

I know. I have been labeled that for sure. Well, if she was, she wouldn't have married you. That's exactly right. There wasn't a lot of gold to be digging around here. Yeah. So that's true. When you think about that, like, what was my alternative inmate with you to do?

Missy has been a treasure hunter long before you were. You know, we have laid awake, stared at the ceiling, many a night. I'm like, how did you know? How did you know that this guy? Duck calls, go around, TV show, lots of money.

It was all God, all God. We've established on the podcast, Missy, that starting with me, then to Jason, and then to Willie, we were all rejected

by the asking for the daughter's hand to marriage. We were all told, no, in fact, I didn't even ask because I knew what the answer would be.

You just went snuck off and did it. I just said, we're doing it next week. Deal with it. You know, so I was, you know,

not as nice as they were. But yeah. So, but they knew Somehow. They knew somehow. It all weren't. It was the ruggedness, I guess. Well, and now, who's, besides me, who is your biggest fan in life? What did you say? Your dad. My dad. Oh. I missed that set up. He is. He is. I'm not sure. I don't have a lot of fans, babe.

Most of our, we're a lot of our fans just talking about Jason and Rose's dad too much. Although I find that funny, Jason, that you get thrown under the buzz because no one interrupts more and more viciously than dad. Literally the other day we were on here and I'm telling a story and he just, it's like I wasn't even talking. He just boop takes out. And then we all got some, me and Jason Gargling got so tickle because he didn't even realize he did it. Had no idea. Al told a five-minute story why he's called Alan Jones, which I know he's called Alan Jones, but I never knew why. So, James was really intrigued by the story.

I was on the edge of my seat. And Al said, the reason that I was called, the reason that happened, because he had this altercation with the police officer, the reason I've been known for Alan Jones all these years, and he was fixed to say it, and Phil said, by the way, if you look at Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. And it was a great sermon seven minutes later that Phil preached had nothing to do with Alan Jones. It was like the gospel's the point of the Bible. And we were laughing so hard for the first four minutes of the story. But we're trying to hide it because, you know, with dad, if he notices, you're laughing at him, he doesn't know why. He'll just say, what, what is it?

What's so funny? Yeah. You know, then he needs to get a video. Well, he was actually given the point of the Bible. But he was so into his own study. He wasn't listening to you. No, he doesn't know your story of Allerjome. No.

Because he didn't hear it. Exactly right. Because the whole time I was talking, I caught him out of the corner of my eye. I'm talking, but he's looking searching his thing. He's hearing my wamp, my wom, wah, wom, wah, that's what he was here. But see, I'm not like that. A lot of times when we were in school, they would call me in. They would say, you don't look like you're paying attention in class.

I said, but I am. But you weren't. You were asleep. You've already said that with your eyes open. When I was asleep, I was not paying attention to your eye. But several times I would stick my head down on my eyes. my desk. Yes.

And I was listening. I was just listening. Right. comfortably. Jace, there comes a time when you just have to say you're lying about that. No, I would listen. I passed. How can you pass it?

Because your older brother. And me. And Missy. And Missy. Give her credit. You typed up all of his papers and stuff. Yes. You typed every single thing.

Everything. Everything. And look, you don't realize people have no idea. And not to just, you know, back in my day. But, like, prison school was really hard. I mean, we went, we had two years of study, but you went to school every day. Ten months, and it was eight hours a day. So they figured it up.

If you compare that to college hours, we would have gotten over 200 hours of university level. That's how much time we're in class with. And you're writing papers for every one of those classes. So, I mean, I was either in class or studying or writing papers, the whole time, for two years. Well, they wouldn't allow you to have a job while you were there. And yet I snuck out and worked. I broke the rules over that. Remember I cut firewood?

I worked in a, you know what I did, Judge? I worked in Bill Phillips' dad's convenience store at night down on Washington Street in Balkan Bill. That's what I was doing to pick up a few extra bucks. Plus, we started preaching, you know, so we could make a little money. Y'all preach. Did you all? He preached for what, sometimes about, what, $100 a week?

I would get that from the little country churches. We go through that in about 20 minutes. Well, the gas to get to these little country churches. We drove all the way to allah, which is an hour. We did it long enough to know that Missy's dream came true. I wasn't going to be a preacher. This is not our dream job. So, you were dating, so you would go with him, right?

Yeah, but we got married the week after y'all graduated. And so then it was just like, now what? Right. Now we got to do this for an actual living. And then they interned us, you know, which meant we got about what, I guess we were getting for support, maybe a little bump, but it wasn't much. You got $800 a month. $800 a month.

What was fascinating is they came and recruited me after all this trouble I had caused, and I was shocked. And I remember, you know, Carl kept saying, but you got potential. Yeah, he kept saying that. I'm like, just believe in me, not my potential. Because that's saying you don't like me right now, but you have potential. But it didn't work out. But I think everybody has to figure out God's purpose for them directly, and I did, which was build up calls and do other things and then use it as a platform to share Jesus. Because I really was happy that I learned the ends and outs of the Bible, and it brought me some discipline in my life.

So, I mean, I'm thankful for it, but I'm like, no thank you working for an established group because I'm too much of a troublemaker. I can't get along with that organization. Well, and I mean, I was talked about before. Working for the church is really difficult because, I mean, it is just a, you know, there's a political edge to it. There's so much going on. And the bigger the church, the more in the fishbow you are. Yeah, I didn't like any any.

I worked as an intern long enough to say this is not for me. So I think we're all grateful now that we can volunteer and you're not tied to a paycheck. is ministry is a lot more interesting and enjoyable, I should say, you know, which we got the blessing to be able to do that. It's funny you think about you're right, miss, you live on $800 a month, and you're like, man, now you look at it, that's like a light bill. You know what I'm saying? I mean, and we were living off the whole, that was the whole enchilada.

Well, that was several times, you know, in our marriage, I was literally walking. We had one vehicle there. We did too for a period. Yeah, and it just, you know, when you're walking down the south of the other, you're like, I need to do something with myself. I was hoping he would get to that point. Yeah, get there. Save my money and bought a truck for a grand.

And it pretty well was worth a grand. Yeah. Well, it was funny because you weren't too crazy either about being a preacher's wife. And I wound up, you know, going into it full board. So why did you not think it was a good idea? I think I did not, what I considered to be a preacher's wife was a meek, mild, soft spousy. Soft spousy.

Not you, not submissive. Quiet, submissive woman. And I was none of those things. And I think also at that point in my life, whenever you decided to do that, I didn't know that, I don't really think that I don't really think that I, I believe that God could take away my sin, that he could see me as a new creature, or that anybody else could see me, you know, as a new person in Christ. So I had, I think I allowed Satan to, you know, tell me that it wasn't possible, that I wasn't preacher-wife material, you know.

You've done too much. You know, you can't be forgiven of all this stuff. You didn't feel like you belonged in the club, right? No. And you looked at women we were around at that time was, you know, Margaret Smith and Barbara Allison and I mean ladies we great women yeah how could I ever compare with these people and missy's mom

you know Peggy you know she was so yeah I never just I didn't feel worthy of the calling I think it's interesting as we kind of share that time in our life all four of us that you know how God can take us at such a young immature

age with our immature thoughts of why we don't want to be a part of something do it anyway and then bless us along the way to where now that's all I want to do is talk about Jesus to people and try to convince them to see who he is and try to fall in love with him and let him lead you. And so before it was just like, I don't want to do. I mean, I love God, but I don't want to do that.

I don't want to put myself out there, especially for no money. It's all perspective. So let's take our first break. So since we're there, I want to ask you both about this because I observe something. in both of y'all's life and where we are now. So you guys were in Austin for a while. We've got a place down in Gulf Shores. And you both got super involved in your community,

meaning literally your neighborhood community, in spiritual ways to help people. So describe that a little bit, both of you, kind of how that came to be and how different that was from us being here our whole lives. And obviously connected to the church. I mean, we've done ministry, whether we were paid to do it or not.

but it's a different feeling. And when you go into this new area where you don't know people, and yet you get to know them in the opportunities. So talk a little bit about that. Well, for me, you know, we went to, for a reason to help Mia with school and being close to her family, her cousins. And so I found myself with a lot of time on my hands. And I'm not used to that.

And after, you know, bingeing Netflix and all that when she'd go to school, I thought, this is not what I want to do. I know I'm here for her and try to help her, but I got to do something too. And I think we can all say for most of our lives that we've been very active in ministry of some sort. And it always, almost always involves people in our home. So, of course, Jessica was right around the corner from me, which was great. And then I met, I have a friend that lives about 10 minutes away that invited me to one of her child's birthday parties. So then I got to meet a couple other women there.

and we started talking and my friend Jenna said, you know, have you thought about maybe starting a ladies Bible study? And I thought, uh, yeah, to quote Phil. And, uh, we had a, we had a film impersonation. That's pretty good, miss. So, you know, give that a nine point. That was really good.

But my thought was I don't want to go in and just like start pushing myself on people. I don't want to, you know, it's just not really my personality. I want Jesus to lead the way. And I had already been praying about what to do, what to do. And so she said, you know, you can bring Jessica and I can bring my friend Jackie. It's like, this is a great idea, yes. So I called Jace that night and super excited about it. Like, what should I do?

He said, I would start with John. You don't know where these women are coming from spiritually. The Book of John. Start with the Book of John. And I have always been involved in Bible studies that either I created or would go to where it was prepared. So if you watch a video or you read a book or you just sit and listen to someone, ask you questions that you have the answers to or, you know, et cetera. And I thought, you know, I think we should just read.

Let's just read a couple of chapters a week and discuss, which was kind of nerve-wracking for me because when I, when they came to the house, I had nothing written on piece of paper and that's not like me. So I was like, let's just, let's just read it. What did you get out of that? And that turned, that Bible study turned into an amazing experience, not just for those women, but for me. Yeah. And when we finished that book of John, it was around the holidays.

And we said, let's just keep going. Let's just go into acts. And so I will say that every week, every Tuesday night at 6.30, those women were at my house. I was the only one without little kids. So mine was like just kind of a more peaceful place. And every Tuesday night, we ended up growing closer to each other and growing closer to Jesus and understanding what he's about. And I honestly fell more in love with Jesus during this last year of this quietness that I had, this what do I do? I have time on my hands.

I think God used that peacefulness, that quietness, even that loneliness sometimes to grow me. And then to also impact others. And so right before we left Austin, we had a community event that these women and I discussed, let's just share what we've learned with the community of Austin. So we rented out one of the theaters there close by in our neighborhood and invited South Austin. And we had a number of women show up and tears and prayers. And it was amazing. You were there too, Jason, right?

Yeah, because Jay's told us about it, talked a little bit about on the podcast. I guess. Yeah, well, she was, yeah, and, you know, I was there a whole lot because my response, I had responsibilities here, but because a lot of people, you would think, you know, I told this story before, but I remember telling a guy, I think it was on the golf course, you know, that I had a house in Austin, you know, but I was here, my wife's there, and he's like, well, I'm so sorry, you know, well, no, and I kept trying to explain.

Yeah, I get it, you know. I thought, oh, well, because they just, you would think that would never work. Of course, we were doing it for our daughter, too. And we had Jeff and Jessica there, but, you know, we're busy. Somebody's done a Facebook message to Lisa because we're similar and said, or did you an house split up? Oh, yeah. We're like, no, no, no, we're good.

But I did the same thing. I mean, I was supporting Missy, you know, in her venture. And like when I would come down a few times, she would have their husbands come. and so we would do an event together. But, you know, we've just learned, I think, since we're not preachers, like in an organization, I mean, I base my ministry on the book of John, how Jesus interacted with people.

He would always go out where they were and have these conversations that seem small, but then it develops into a bigger conversation and then sparks or, you know, I think about that woman at the well, she wound up being the spokesman for the whole town. And it all started from just one conversation. And I think you did that in Austin through those women.

And we try to do that just in our normal lives. Always think about that obscure passage that Jesus said over and over and over that said he who has ears let him hear, which nobody ever talks about what that means. But it's like he was just talking about whoever it is, wherever you are. And my opening line in all my speeches is, you know, I know I look like a preacher, but I'm actually a believer.

They laugh because I don't look like a preacher. But I do think God has chosen us in this way to be real. And not just on Sunday. These are house gatherings and just talking about Jesus. So that's basically what we do together. Well, also it's not just about Jesus because you want to come to Jesus and you want people to come to Jesus. But why does Jesus want us?

He loves us. He created us. And he wants us to be together as a community. and as a family of believers. And so that's also what happened during that, those months, and my living room and on my back porch is we became a Jesus community. And these women, these women are going to be friends for the rest of my life. I mean, they're amazing.

We still talk almost, I mean, every week for sure. We have a group text message. We're checking on each other. And I forget that. I forget all of that. You know, during Duck Dynasty, things have changed because of that dynasty. and people's perception of us have changed because of that. But these women, they didn't care about all that.

And I love that because they love me for who I am, flaws and all. We talked about mistakes and flaws and failures, and they're there. And I'm like, that's exactly what Jesus created us to do and to be together. And I found that in Austin. Now that we're not going to be back, I'm really missing them. Like, that was the best part of the whole move was finding them. You got to start a new one in Tennessee. Yeah.

So, babe, I think that's kind of, I mean, our experience was similar because like you said, when you're when you work for the church, and especially if you're the main person, the main guy, then people bring people to you. I mean, that's what happened. Problems, you know, marital problems. And then, you know, we've been open about our struggles. But in this case, we went in and nobody knew who we were either. I mean, I mean, they found out who we were connected to.

But so we. were meeting them. We were just walking around our neighborhood and in our neighborhoods, about half of it is sort of semi-retirees and, you know, people. And so everybody's out, working in their yard and everybody stops and talks to one. So that's how you meet people. And we just started walking around and meeting people. And it was amazing just because, again, conversations, season with grace and salt, how much they picked up on there's something different about these. I mean, like, they knew immediately there was something different about us. us. And then it didn't take long before those began to bear fruit in terms of a lot of deeper

conversations, people sharing their hearts and stuff like that. I mean, what has been your, let's take a break? You know, they found out who we were. So then, you know, that kind of went around the neighborhood. But what I think most is once they found out that you were a preacher, then it was like, oh, well, can you start a church here? You know, we really haven't found a place that we wanted to settle in. A lot of that bad church experiences too, you know. Yeah. So can you just start a church here?

And we're like, I was like, no, I have a church. I already working. I'm working my, I'm working myself to death free for a church already. So how we started out was we just started having different ones into our home to have dinner with us and to have conversation. And we would give them all a copy of our book. And when we had, when we lived in the condo, we had a little couple that we in the condo area with us. So when we decided to move, they decided to move with us. So they moved

right next door to us. And they were next door to us in the condo. Yeah. And we, I mean, we were, we had talked to both of them, but we were just kind of beginning. It's not like we were, you know, instant best friends, but we liked each other. Yeah. And they were like, we don't want to stay here if you all want to be here. So they, they bought a house next to us in the neighbor. And Mike and Malia now are very special to us. Um, Malia is, um, um, she has done everything in her life. I say when I grow up, I want to be like you, Malia. But she's just, she's a genuine person and she loves us and so does her family.

But, you know, whenever you meet somebody, you never know what their struggle is because everybody has one. And so when you get to talking to somebody, you learn what their struggle is. Sometimes you've been through that struggle. Sometimes you haven't. But I think as Christians, God always gives us the answer, no matter if you've been through it or not, he always gives you the answer to tell someone as to, you know, maybe not how to fix it, but how to overcome it. And how to rise above it. And so that's kind of what you and I have been doing as far as having people in.

and, you know, our first time that we had a couple in, we had two couples in, and, you know, halfway through our meal, one of them, you know, just started crying, you know, sharing stuff about, you know, things going on. So. And she, what got me was she felt safe enough the first time we had her in our home to share with us some of the really tough stuff she's been doing with this last year. And I thought, man, what a, what a humbling thing. that someone's willing to share something that deep.

You know, even though we'd known them and talked to them around the neighborhood, we'd never really had a deep conversation. And the minute we went there, she felt safe enough. You know, and she said, we, and our husband was there, we haven't told anybody this, not even our families. Here's some of the things we've been struggling with. So I felt like that was a humbling opportunity, and I thought, you know, God has us here for that purpose.

Like you said, I mean, it's a time of difficulty, because it's hard to be apart when we're apart, you know. But then at the same time, can do so much, you know, with the time that you have together. I had one thing that, Jason and I both spoke separately at a little church in Austin when we were there. Oh, that was fun. Yeah, I forgot about that.

One of the things that I said, you know, sometimes you have your speech prepared or, you know, we kind of ad lib a lot when we speak. But one thing I said, and I heard myself say it and had to say it again, was I said, sometimes I said the reason that I'm here may not be the reason that I'm supposed to be here. And I was like, let me think about that again. The reason that I'm here may not be the reason that I was supposed to be here because the reason we came was different from, I feel like, the reason that God used me and the way that God used me. So we might have our will and our desire and our plan, but then let's be open and make sure

that God is leading us the whole way because he will most likely have something way bigger in mind for us. And that's what happened with us in Austin. Well, it's like when Missy said that about not having any notes or anything written on a paper, you're in your house. It's not maybe a Monday night or a Wednesday night or. Well, I do the same thing in my speeches because I've always been kind of shy about speaking, which, you know, I was confident when I went to the school. They helped me with confidence. But I don't use notes because I view it the same way she does is I'm just trying to introduce the Lord. And when y'all were talking, you know, y'all's speech is incredible.

when y'all do a marriage seminar or whatever because you're vulnerable and open. And I think that's why people do show up at your house and just start, you know, unveiling all these secrets. But it reminds me that Colossian 3 at the end he talked about, you know, at the first he starts talking about set your mind on things above where the Lord is. And he gets to the end, he talks about all the relationships, how husbands and wives and children and parents and social classes. And then he's like, whatever you do, you work at it with,

all your heart as to the Lord not for men and really that's what we're trying to do i mean when you think about our show our little duck show that came out people were they thought they were drawn to us because we were having fun and doing all these crazy things but it was really to the lord in us that's right on how we get along and that's when they hear us speak that's what we do and we're doing the same thing maybe with our new show which missy's going to be a part of today are you are you nervous about that? No. Okay.

Which is kind of interesting, Missy, because I, and I didn't know that you and Jessica were going to be like, do anything with it. We didn't either. I think this is evolving because I didn't know about it either. Yeah. But so, but it's, but I want to get your take on it because really you are the reason that Jay Steven got into Treasure up because if you hadn't a, if you had a, if you had a, am I, am I supposed to take this responsibility?

I'm not ready for this responsibility. Maybe you made a. which I told you about posting things on social media. Wait, wait. What are y'all attributing this to? This all got started over that one post. I was down in the yard. And you didn't say, hey, babe, I'm fixed to take a picture of you in a vulnerable position.

Oh, the one where you're digging in the front yard at the plantation, that one? Yeah. Well, that was my point was that you wanted to redo the plantation and y'all bought it into a and breakfast. But if you hadn't had that desire, you wouldn't have opened up the opportunity for him to ever get into treasure because that's really what started, right? You thought I'm going to be out here. And I don't want to be doing bad and breakfast. So I need something to do. I got out there and she was like, there's an old house out here in a log town where no one lives anymore. That's true. That one's there. It's not a town anymore. No, it's literally surrounded by

fields. 200 years ago. And this old place is out there. Mrs. Light, because she likes to take old rough looking things and refined it, which is why she married me. I knew that was coming in. I could smell that one. You still got some work to do there. I guess this is a lifelong project. She's just in denial about her gold digger tendencies.

Oh, gosh. And now she's got you digging for gold. He's the gold digger, really. She's out there and I'm out there with a, with a hole dog and I'm looking when she was driving by on her way out, and she took a picture of me and put on social media, he's always hunting something. Well, that's true.

It was true. It was genius. And that one picture launched where now this has become real. Their cameras back in the yard, let's go find something. But every time camera crews show up, they can't help it. Because they look over there and they're like, oh, that's your wife. Like you didn't know. I mean, but they just can't help it.

They got to dig into what? How did this happen? It's a miracle. She's a gold digger or whatever. And then they want to interview her and say, well, how did Jace get started in this? They can't help it. They just got to pick it. They're going to keep going.

Let's take another. So Missy may have been the initiator, but then Unashamed Nation is now the ones that, because we asked, Jay's asked him. He was like, do we do this or not? Yeah. If you say no, if you say this is a bad idea, we're not doing. Well, I mean, think about it. Do you want to follow somebody around and watch them, beep, beep, be.

I mean, how interesting is that? So I was like, I mean, a show about that? I don't know about that. But they do. They get it. They've fallen around me for four days, literally. Look, here's the reason. They're not falling around you because you're beeping machine.

They're falling around you because you're enigmatic on TV. Just like you are here. It's the same thing. like for the pie. What did you just call me? Indigmatic. I know what it is. Let's let Jason go to Google.

You sugar it. I mean, if you want to call me a name, wait until we get home, depending on the definition. Look it up, babe. I would agree. He's difficult to interpret or understand mysterious. There you go.

They want to try to figure you out. They still do not have you figured out. He took the money with an inignotic smile. There you go. Hey, you're so mysterious. They've been trying to figure out Jason's that dynasty.

They want to figure it out. So with Jeff, I think it's going to be great because I told actually that one of the producers I said, this is gold because Jace, you never know what you're going to get. Jep is laid back, but super funny.

Jepp is super funny. I have to admit, those four days of filming, and Jeff did a lot of really stuff that made me laugh. And I thought it was just because I hadn't seen him in a while. Well, as a brother, you know, we're all close in different ways. We all have different relationships with each other. But, I mean, that was actually one of my favorite aspects of the idea of the show was because Jason, Jeff have gotten close over doing this together.

Yeah. Because they never were that close. Well, I got him involved. I'm close to Jeff because I'm like an uncle almost, like a dad. Because, you know, we've helped them and worked with them and stuff like that. Well, I got Drew into this because of Murray, who has become one of my best friends, but he was going through cancer and he was a metal detector and I knew nothing about it. And he taught me everything I know.

But I was trying to help a friend out because he was like, that's the only thing keeping me alive. He actually said that. Then he's like, can I come hunt your yard? What am I going to say? He just said it was the only thing keeping him alive. He's pretty smart. No, I hope you die. Yeah.

I was like, boy, that's quite a line there, Murray. Yeah, come on over and find this old junk in my yard. But then he started finding cool stuff. And the more, look, I went to the Bible and studied how many times it talks about God comparing, finding us as lost. And the reason Jesus hung out with the riffraff. And there's so much about treasure and where your heart is, there's your treasure. will be also. And I just, I thought, you know what?

I mean, this may sound coy, but I thought if there's that much in there about the Bible and how it relates, I'm going to go give this a try. But, you know, like, that's an analogy because, you know, God and Jesus are using those stories as an analogy to what the real treasure is. And so that's why when we started talking about how to do this, I was like, it's got to be, you know, for a lack of a better word, deeper than just finding the treasure in the ground. Like, let's find out, like, the treasure is there because somebody made it for a certain purpose hundreds of years ago or whatever.

And then let's see, what does the people, what were they doing during that time and how were they living? What were the relationships like and what was going on here? And then to maybe be able to flush that out a little bit and try to get those relationships to be honored and that time and history to be honored for the good without ignoring the bad because there's some bad history. we all know, but what's the way that we can do that? And I love that. That's why I love the place that we bought because it was built in 1847 by hand. So you're digging in the yard and I'm looking at the hand-shawn boards and everything that's going on inside the house because I think those are beautiful. And I want to see like what was going on here. I would love to know what was going on here. What was the family doing? And so I think that both of those aspects on the

a show are going to be amazing. Well, and I was very encouraging to Jason about it, because one of the things the struggles was, and Zach and I talked a lot about it was, you know, people are trying to erase history now. We don't want to talk about history. But I was just the opposite. So we need a show like, we need to make, let's make history great again, you know. I mean, let's talk about it honestly and openly, but let's not try to destroy our past. Yeah. And I'm going to use the bad things in the past because we've already found some things that you're like oh what do you say about that you know i found a a bullet uh you know from the civil war and i i just said because honestly when i see that my first thought is i believe all people are valuable it's a reminder to me to look at

things through a spiritual lens what's crazy about this is while we were talking jep just sent me this picture because i guess they're filming out at our house are they he said hey i just found this your yard. So I'm not sure what that is. It's like a finial or something from the bedpost? Yeah, it was like some piece of front hole. And I don't know how I could have missed that because I've hunted my yard a hundred times. Well, he said, a little change in the earth.

You never know what happened. A little rain, little. That's pretty awesome, though, because you know that's probably handmade. Well, it makes me mad because I thought I was expert. And Jep, look, has become known as. Here's another element of the show. The old green-eyed monsters come up. I want to tell you this.

I mean, Jep has. become the newbie of the show. And look, not by design. He just, because wherever he goes, he finds a junk and nothing of value. So I'm shocked that he's actually found something that's cool. One man's junk's another man's treasure. That's exactly right. We've got to see that in an interview.

That's right. Let's take our last break. So in this last segment, there's a couple things I wanted to talk about. One is you guys are going to be, Jay's mentioned, you guys are going to be grandparents. which is super excited. We think so talk about that. Oh, yeah. I love to talk about that.

They are the grandest things that you will ever have. Grandkids are the grandest. I'm excited about that. It's a little weird to deal with being old. No, you just embrace it. This is what I'm looking forward to in growing old is having the grandkids, for sure. So our oldest granddaughter is, here.

She's, Carly is watching today and she's 15. And so I had to tell you the first one, this will be your oldest, will pretty much set the pace for everybody

going forward. Does they get that first? It depends on how many years they're in between them, they'll call you the first thing. And so have y'all thought about, have you thought about, what you want to be called?

Because I think it's, you know, it may not happen. Well, you had a few suggestions. Like, I would, what?

Call me rock. Rock. I'll be a rock. Pop a rock. Rock as in dumbass Alan gosh

I thought I was the only one that said stuff like that I mean I'm wearing a back A rock Like Hey right You know

This is not going to work If you ask my Carly's rolling over here If you ask my opinion What I want to be called I gave it And then you just

Destroy I'm saying What are you want to be called That was the first thing The rock The rock. Like the rock? No, rock.

There's already, the rock has the rock. I'm just rock. So what is your name? Would you be roll? What do you want? Yeah, what do you? Well, do you want to hear my ex-perance? Hey, here's my grandparents.

Rock and roll. Will you let my? I think that's awesome. That's pretty good. Rock and roll. It used to be. I was saying. I was saying that the kid will need some, some kind of sustainability in their life.

And I'm offering to try to be a rock to this kid. I think that they'll be laughed at. at school. I don't think that is very next. My granddad rock. You have a granddad? You have a rock for a granddad? Yes, he's so silent. That's it.

Oh, God. I didn't know this is going to be such a shot for you, but there you go. All right, what do you suggest? I mean, I didn't have anything in mind, but maybe I should be really prepared for this because I don't like the way this is going. Read and Brighton, they're like, we don't know.

What do you want to be called? So I don't, I don't know. So what do you? I suggest rock until I hear a better idea. Well, you can be role. I like that. Why don't we ask the unashamed nation what they think? We need your suggestions.

So look, I'll be honest. I don't think Memo and Pepol are going to fly. So what do your kids call? Oh, that's what you're talking about? want a version of that? Yeah, everybody does that. What? Jace wants to be unique, is what he's saying.

I want to be unique because I don't want to be in a restaurant or somebody and say, Mamma, and like eight women turn around. Neither do I, but. If they say it right, you're the only one. What are y'all called? What are y'all called?

We're ma'am and pap. Ma'am? Ma'am. That's right. Ma'am and Pat. And I don't know that we didn't come up. Did we come up with that? That came from Swiss family Robinson.

Oh. Really? Mm-hmm. Who is that? It was a show. Don't ask about any kind of wholesome show on TV. He doesn't know any about anything about that. Are you implying that I only watched unwholesome shows?

No, but that's all that was on back then. He didn't watch TV at all. So don't bring up all of that. Don't bring up a wholesome show. He knows nothing about that. He only watches trash. I didn't watch anything. If it didn't come from Josie Wales or one of those is what she'd be.

I don't know. We only had three channels. So what do they call your parents? Well, I'm just going to say one comment about your name because I worked at the woman's clinic for 12 years and I don't think I could affectionately call anyone pat. As long as you leave the smear off where we're all good. Here's what you should have done. When they called you ma'am, they should just called you sir. Oh, yeah.

Mam and sir. That's respectful. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Rock, roll. It's not that bad. No. No.

No. No. Mr. ma'am and mister so what do they cut what do your kids call your parents uh me me and poppy me me and poppy okay

there's a poppy and they is mammo K and papal field mamey and poppy yes you did know that hopefully you knew that your kids are I'm not a big name let's come up with give everybody a name

is this what people do yes otherwise they're going to call you Jace you asked they gave you mine I'm sticking to it till I've all right It's an ashamed nation. What about rock and pearl? Love it. Rock and pearl.

I like that. She's a pearl and you're a rock. Yeah, that's kind of treasury. And a metal detective. They've embraced this time of your life. So it's Al at RestorationProductions.net. Send me your suggestion. Oh, boy.

We'll talk about it on. We also still need a name for the show. And Missy's he quit worrying about it. People will come up with it. And we got a lot of names that we did. Very creative, interesting, but they were. They looked into them. They were the copyrighted on the news.

didn't like them. They don't like, if they say it's too on the nose, like they don't like that. Like it's catchy or whatever. I tried last podcast because I thought that name I came up with was awesome, but no one likes it but me. What was that? Oh, no. Dirt bags.

No, yeah, no. No, that's not. That's not. Dirt bags meet rock, you know. Well, I thought it should be a depiction of us. You're a dart bag? That's what Dad said. That said the exact same thing.

Because before I came to Jesus, I'm technically a dirt bag. Since I learned metal detecting from Jesus, I'm like, he turns the dirt bag into a new creation. Also, a second meaning to that is we dig in the dirt and we're looking for bags of gold. This is the subtitle under the show what he just said. Yeah, so much for the catchy title. And I want people of the world who are not believers to watch. So I think they would be more willing to watch something called dirt bag than holy rollers. Well, who said naming it holy rollers?

I'm just using it for an illustration. Rock and rollers, yeah. All right, so we only got a couple of minutes left, Missy, but you and I talked about this. I want to mention it. Last month was cleft and cranial facial awareness month. So give us a little update on Mia Moo, kind of how things are going. I would like to let the audience know about that. This is, this has really grown over the past year.

Even through the pandemic and all, it's been quite shocking. So thank you, everyone, for donating and for buying the products and all of that because we have been able to help with, if when we send our next check, it's going to go over $500,000 is what we've been able to help families with. Awesome. Since we started. And we're having our Mia Mu Fund day this October. We couldn't do it last year because of the coronavirus.

But the families were just really asking, please, they, need it so bad. They need that camaraderie, that encouragement. They need other people to face to face with them, understanding what they go through every day. So we're doing that this October. So please, you know, I'm asking people, I'm not ashamed, go to miamu.org because it really is changing the way that this is being perceived, that it's not just a once and you're done kind of surgery situation. And then, of course, we've learned now. with a 17-year-old, about to be 18-year-old daughter, who was born with this,

that there's so many emotional factors that go through. They go through, especially a girl. But we want to be there for those families emotionally. And so that's what really this fun day is about. It's expensive. We pay for their hotel. We pay for their food. We pay for all the activities that we do.

But this is a place where they can come here in West Monroe, and we can just love on them. And make them feel like you don't, have to think about your cleft this time because everybody here is just like you. And you don't stick out. You're not different. And I, we've had two so far. And I was nervous about this, but I wanted to try it was a time where just the parents were able to share. So the kids are out playing, had some activities with some people who were, you know, we had nurses there, everything in case something happened. So we said, let's just all the adults get together in the living room and

discuss some things. And I was nervous about it. but it ended up being their favorite thing that they had the entire weekend was that one hour of just the adult sharing together. Tears and laughter and we got into medical care personnel and I mean it was just like, oh, that time that in it was like you bond. You bond over all those experiences. We talked about earlier community. This is a community.

It's its own community. So a lot of people have prayed for me. We talked a lot about JST especially going through the surgery within this past year. So they ask about her all the time. So how's she doing physically? Physically, she's doing great. She hasn't gotten all of her feeling back and her chin. So some of those nerves are the last to heal.

And that was such a major surgery that she's still. Everyone's while I'll say you've got something on your bottom lips. Like, oh, I can't feel it. You know, she'll wipe it off. But it's slow. It's a slow process because this was such an intensive surgery. But she's doing fabulous. She's doing wonderful.

Wonderful. I know a lot of you ask because I see a lot of emails. And of course, our staff and crew do a good job of letting you guys know, but it's always good to hear from you because they're asking, you know, how that goes. So that's great. So now you know how to look at that if you want to help out. We would love for you to be able to do that as well. We're out of time.

That went by fast. That was fun. It's always good to have the ladies on. I was saying this with Mom and Ann Amor. And our female audience is really growing because I'm getting about as many emails now from ladies as I am from me. So we appreciate you guys. And I know you really like it when you hear the women's perspective,

Sesey, since we tell all the stories. We got to come back on and talk about our book. We are. We're going to do that. They have a new book coming out, so I'm excited about that. So next time, ladies' day, we'll talk about Sister Roar. Well, we may write a book about being grandparents when that happens. We're going to call it rock and roll.

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