Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 327 | Jase Is Lord of the Flies and Do Spirits Interact Outside the Body?

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

Phil, Jase, and Al talk about where spirits are before they enter the body, where they go when you die, and whether they interact with each other beyond this realm. Jase has a vendetta against flies and once killed 1,000 in one offensive. The guys discuss the ways people grapple with being perishable and why even Jeff Bezos and all his money can't change the human condition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Yeah, I was in, when I was in Georgia at this event, there was a guy, he said he was listening. I think he said it was Larry the cable guy or something. He said they play a game. I guess they have a podcast or something. And they come up with these stories, and you have to figure out what's the true story, and they make stories up. And I don't know, I think it's a silly game among comedians.

but he said he was telling me one of the stories that turned out to be true because i had done in my speech another one of my jokes that fell flat is that when i asked missy to marry me she's like well you know you got to get my dad's blessing i've told this story before of course she was she was like what's her formality but we didn't prepare for when i asked for his blessing and he said no you know Will you bless the marriage? No. Nope.

So then what? And so one of the things that came up was he was like, what are you going to do for a living? And I was too embarrassed to say I'm going to build no calls. But at that time, we were making very little money for that. I think I was basically getting paid room and bored. Yep. So much less get married.

So I told him I was, which I was kind of kidding, but he didn't get the joke. And neither did the people that I shared this with. but I said, well, actually, I'm an air traffic controller because I was, you know, where the duck calls were controlling the traffic of birds in the air. Which is a pretty good stretch. Yeah, it was.

But people that know me know that I have a disdain for flies because I feel like it's our responsibility as humans. The way, well, I read Romans one, there's an order of priorities. You have God, humans, and animals. Do you like fly? How do you feel about flies? I have a fly swatter close to me at all. There you go.

And people now they have, and part of what came out of the conversation when he was talking about this real story that I'm fixed to share with you, is they were telling me about having these salt guns now and they shoot flies, which actually is fun and it actually works. So they said, well, did you hear what happened? There's a real story. So these guys in Germany, they're trying to, set the Guinness Book of World Record for dominoes standing up that collapse.

So they assemble 600,000 dominoes. And before they can complete the setup, a blowfly lands on one of the dominoes and sends the potential world record down in flames. All because of a fly. Because it took weeks for them to set this up. Yeah, all over one fly that lit. He was the one that got away, Jay's. Believe it or not.

But it made me think if everybody took my view on controlling the fly problem. that would have never happened. It would be less of a problem because most people, look, they'll be having an outdoor dinner and there's flies all over everything and they're just, they're just, I know where those flies have been. And guess what? It's not pleasant.

What's funny is we've dealt with flies in so many different situations. We understand the difference in a house fly and a blowfly and all the different kind of flies because they all have different tasks, they're all nasty, but they all have different tasks, which we've had so many through the years of. commercial fishing and all that we've had all those things. I kill at least one fly every day. I would say that. I guess we kind of share that.

Yeah, I've been in places, you know, a famous story when we had, Willie took me to Colorado and we looked up and we went to, we were at Todd Helton's ranch and we were going to go duck. I was going to go duck hunting. They were going to go deer hunting. And the first time I met Todd Helton, you remember Todd Helton. He played quarter. back at Tennessee.

He wound up being playing for the Rockies, you know, and had a great career. Yep. Well, we somehow got to his camp without him being there. I think he was playing baseball. Well, when he showed up the next day, when I had walked outside, I didn't know that his ranch used to be a cattle farm. And there was just flies everywhere.

So I went out there and took a fly swatter, and I'm probably a thousand deep in fly kills because they just kept coming. And I thought, somebody's got to do something about these flies. I didn't have anything else to do. But when he pulled up, you got to remember a thousand flies laying around me is quite a sight. And he said, what are you doing? I said, I'm trying to kill these flies. And he just looked down and there's a thousand dead ones.

He's like, it's not going to matter. I said, well, it mattered to them. I thought you would be. that's how we met that was our opening and he went in there and I heard him whispering to willie like if I was all there and some kind of mental issue was he the brother that didn't quite have it all which became funny which why we Jason Robertson killer of flies yeah we're talked about this on a on a podcast one you weren't on jays I guess it was when you were gone or something, but Jay and

Sire were talking about your obsession with flies. Although I'm pretty close. I've got a fly swatter within reach in several different rooms because I don't like them either. I don't like them lighting on my feet. We could do a whole episode on I've told you all before about

my boys training them how to properly kill a fly. We don't play paddy cake. We go in. We don't care what's there. And I set the tone when my wife had bought this. She bought a something for Christmas. Yeah, they buy these things. It's like every little piece of board had a little trinket that was representative of Jesus's virgin birth, and it was like a big tower shaped like a tree with all these ornaments

all over everything. I mean, it probably took her a couple hours to put together, and she put it right in the middle of the table that's in our kitchen. Well, a flyer. while I was cooking lit on that thing and I wasn't thinking that these are a lot of pieces that are fragile fragile I ripped this fly and this thing just disintegrates before my the whole thing it was like a game of jinga pieces break the whole thing collapses you're back on the 600,000 dominoes stacked that's what happened that's what I thought I thought y'all would find that story. Interesting. But I'm saying I'm making the world a better place for all humans, and sometimes sacrifices have to be made. Lives are the fathers of maggots.

I agree. That's enough to not let them get out of hand anywhere. And how many times, in our fishing and hunting careers of our whole lives, how many maggots have we seen and had to deal with over? the course of all those years of cleaning at game and i mean it's just brutal i think it's why we hate them something i took the trash out for i came down here and when i opened the you know it's hot summertime here and they had just got in the trash well i opened the deal and there was about i mean the uh bin for the garbage outside there was a hundred maggots

in the bottom of it just you know what my thought was i need to kill more flies yeah you need to you need to check your trash more often no they they come get it once a week well we'll What do you think is going to happen when something gets in there? It's 110 degrees in the shade. Yep. That's why we have a fly problem. Yep. That's why I cleaned my can.

So I had something I had never thought about it. So I wanted to run it by yesterday. There's one of my neighbors down here, a wonderful Christian couple. We talked to them every time we come down. And so we were talking yesterday. And I think I told the story on the podcast before. Her mom had been struck by lightning years ago. tragically she's a full blood Cherokee Indian her mom and a wonderful woman great

Christian woman she got struck by lightning and but don't they said on the outside you couldn't tell she was even hurt but inside you know it just you know electrified her and so she was dying and she was in the hospital but they knew she wasn't going to make it and they were all just kind of giving their goodbyes and all this stuff and the guy said Peter, he said, it was his mother-in-law. He said, his father-in-law said, he looked over at her and she wasn't saying anything, but she was aware, you know, because she had been talking to him. And he looked at her and he said, are you about ready to go? And she said, yep, I'm ready. And she just closed her eyes and that was it. And then she went. And he was

telling me this last time I was down here. And I thought, man, it just, it impacted me because I thought, that's the way, you know, you want to be at the end. Like, you're just like, okay, I mean, had a run here. Got struck by lightning is a bad deal. But the Lord, Lord's ready for me. I'm ready to go. So we were talking again yesterday. They were telling me about their grand.

We were talking about my grandchildren. They were talking about their granddaughter. I think she's 10 now. And they were saying how much she was like her great-grandmother. Like she had a lot of the same characteristics. She's very curious about her because she obviously didn't get to know her because she died before she came along. And they were telling me this. And they said, here's what they said, and I had never thought about this before.

So I wanted to bring it up and see what y'all think about it. They said, you know, it was we feel like that she died the same year that their granddaughter was born. She was born a few months after the great grandmother passed away. And they said, it seems like she carries her spirit in her was the way they framed it. But what got me thinking was is that, you know, spirits are somewhere. until they come into a body that's created when two people come together, right? I mean, we know once a physical body begins in a mother's womb, then the spirit comes in at some point during that process.

And when that person is born, they have a body and a spirit and a soul. And so I thought, you know, there's someplace before they come here to earth to go into a human body and then they become that person. and then there's somewhere after you leave here. I wonder, is there any interaction potentially, possibly? Because sometimes you see generational people that act a lot like they're people that were before them. And I had never thought about it before.

There's no way, I don't know that we can know this necessarily biblically because it's kind of an unknowable thing until you get there. But I found it fascinating, just the thought process of I wonder if you could have interaction with someone from before or later, you know, outside of our realm. I mean, have you ever thought about that? Well, I think a few podcasts ago I brought this up from First Peter. You know, I believe Jesus went to those spirits during those three days. Yep.

And had some sort of conversation based on First Peter three, where is it, 18? it said, for Christ died for sins once for all, the rights for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body, but made alive by the spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago. And then he gets into the days of Noah, which I think I made the illustration then that I think when we're baptized, because he's the one that made the announcement. not me, that the Spirit is declaring to all of the Spirit world outside of Jesus that I've now won because of Jesus, because of my surrendering to Jesus, and you've lost. Because I can't imagine what else Jesus would have said to the Spirit world of those outside of Jesus in that moment.

the spirits that Noah had talked to God working through his spirit spoke to the people when they were in before they their spirits departed their souls departed from them they were warned there's a big water coming by faith Noah you know he he said there's a big water coming and you will be destroyed unless you recognize that and they all laughed at him So the bottom mind is when they all died were drowned, the eight that were left, the Apostle Paul just makes the point that, look, I mean, Peter makes the point that now they're in spirit form, but the Lord went and told them all. It's just what happens when you don't listen to my instructions. This is what happened. Yeah. Which we talked about, let's take our first break. We talked about that even back then, Jace. Was it just the same spirit of Christ in the sense of in the time frame of when it happened

and the same one now? Or did he go back? Or did he speak to those who were in some place? I mean, there's no, again, it's an unknowable situation. But it's fascinating to think about it. But, you know, you think about it physically, we carry attributes of our ancestors, right? And the closer you are, the more you look like your dad, your grandpa, your or whatever. We see those physical attributes, but I never really thought much about spiritual

attributes because we, and when I say spiritual, I don't mean spiritual as in godly. I mean like our spirit that animates us. Because I would say like even the Robertsons, I mean, we have a certain way about us, right? When Phyllis showed up out of my past, it was astounding to me that she had a picture taken of Melissa. That's, that's, that's, Melissa would be my what, first cousin. No, she's your niece. My niece. Your niece. Phyllis and my niece stood side by side and you couldn't tell them apart. They are exactly. It was actually Melissa's daughter. It was Melissa's daughter, Peyton. That's correct. So it was, yeah, it was her second cousin. And, you know, it was. And, You're right, I'm looking at them.

But if you rewind the tape of life, when Al and I were discussing the possibility of this, because we've had numerous people claim that they were kin to us or whatever. But when I saw her picture, you remember Al? I said, you might have to look into that. That's what got my intention more than anything, even though. She's an exact replica of my niece's daughter. I mean, those two, she stood together with them and they're a match. It's the same thing, Dad.

So my youngest daughter, we took a picture of her where Alex was four years old. We took a picture of Phyllis when she was four years old. Exact replica. Little blonde. They looked exactly the same. I mean, look at it. They could have been twins, obviously a lot of years apart. So that's what I'm talking about.

So you're right. The spirit bouncing in and out or whatever. of the human race, there's something that goes along with that, especially just by looking. Because, you know, we think about people tend to think only physically or like your brain, you know, has these synapses and they fire and, you know, does all sorts of things. But that's not what gives you animation. I mean, that is literally your spirit. And when you die, it's gone.

I mean, your brain is still in there. It's not firing anymore, but your spirit is gone. and it was it was somewhere and it was then in you and then it's somewhere again and so i just found that fascinating i never really thought about if there was interaction but it seemed to be jesus is all about recreating that again when most people death is the finality they're in their minds this is final it's like the guy from from the uk you know he watched something They called it something, but I was on there, gave it my testimony by coming to Jesus. He said, you know, I was taught all of my life over here in the UK that you live and then you die, and that's it.

He said, I was listening to this guy talking, and he has turned my life around because he said, death basically was the beginning of immortality because of your spirit and your soul. Well, right. And he was like, he said, it's the greatest thing I've ever heard. He was just talking about the gospel of Jesus. He was a person who just thought, you just born and you die, and there's no spirit that lives on or soul, you know, remind you of Jesus that don't worry about the ones that kill the body.

We're about the one to get your body and soul in hell, you know. Well, speaking of the UK, you know, there's a new show on which, you all know, I don't watch TV much. But I'm always on me. I'm Matt Dillon and that's it. Well, I'll give you another idea here. But I'm all about advertising. What gets my attention, I've said this a thousand times here,

but when people of the world use biblical qualities as an advertising tool, I'll go see what they're up to. And most of the time, they're just using this quality to get your money. But the UK, I think it's on the BBC channel. which is across the pine, they have a new show called Eden. So I was like, well, I got to go see what this is because they're going to do a recreation of the Garden of Eden.

So I need to watch this. And these probably are renowned atheist. Well, who knows, but I wanted to go check it out. So, and I've watched the first three, they've released the first three episodes, I watched all three. So what they did was they found obscure places that have had very little human involvement

and they just basically did a world-class cinematography filming of the animals that are there. And I'm always been fascinating. But as this is going on, I'm like, well, wait a minute here. Why are you naming this Eden? because the whole point of Eden where people live in there because God wanted to live people.

So they just took the people out and said, boy, this is awesome. And they're basically showing that you're either a predator or your prey. That's what they're showing it. I kind of enjoy it because, you know, they're showing

leopards or whatever, attack a deer. But I've noticed they're real careful not to show they try not to show the killing of it. Like they did one whole episode about a leopard sneaking up on a bunch of some kind of deer. And then he actually got the deer, took him down to a dry valley where the creek was, but then a hyena got wind of it. Then he came down and throughout that process, the deer jumped up and took off.

So they ran that because it had a happy ending. Yeah. But I thought, well, if this leopard keeps this up, he's going to die. starvation. I mean, so it was amazing because they're like, protect the earth, which look, I'm all four. Let's do what we can. I'm an environmentalist from way back. I enjoy the outdoors and the earth, but I'm like, but your idea of Eden is having a place where all these animals are killing each other and there are no humans. That's basically it, you know, because let me tell what a human wouldn't last. Somewhere on all of that, they'll say, we came from,

from animals. Well, that's where we at. That's why they got to. I mean, I basically have gotten the impression three episodes in. They were saying the animal world, this is us. The humans are the problem. Once we evolved, in quotation marks, to the human form, it became a problem because the human started killing the animals.

But I'm like, but the animals are killing each other because it's the way that it works. And you're showing it graphically. Oh, yeah. And to tell you the truth, the most miserable people on the planet are the people in that jungle filming it because I know what's going on there. Oh, yeah. Because you make one false move and guess what? You're in the belly of a crocodile. They're not showing that, though.

So that's interesting, though, Jays. You're right. So it's, when dad, when you were young, the concept of humanism was everywhere. I mean, humans are number one. There is no God. humans are the top of the, you know, you're the top of the chain. Everything was about humanism. Now we're in what's called post-humanism, which means now we don't like humans.

We still don't want God, but we don't want humans either. We just, because we're destroying the planet. You know, we're bad. We fight all the time. Al, did you see where Bezos now? Because this is like, I think there should be a show on just following him around. Because it's what can you do with billions and billions of dollars? And I basically told you two or three things.

Well, now he's setting up space stations. He's investing all this money. And he wants to move all industrial infrastructure to outer space. And so they interviewed him yesterday about it because they're like, what are you doing now? It's like, we're going to set up because we're destroying the planet through. industry and manufacturing. He's like, I'm going to help build bases and we take all manufacturing

to outer space. I mean, he's, this is not a joke. What he's saying is, he's literally trying to do this. He said my compadry's and myself, make no mistake about it, we are God. That's what they're saying. Well, I think he's trying to figure out when you put the three things he's doing with space travel, moving all industry out,

and he's also funding all these places to try to figure out how to extend your life. He's basically grappling with being perishable. I mean, you can have billions of dollars, but if you can't extend your life or extend the earth, well, what are we doing it for? That's why they're making claims if y'all will follow me. So you're right. Dad brings up a good point. Let's take a break.

So when you have billions of dollars more than you could possibly, because he's got multiple billions now, more than you could possibly spin, then in your mind, you, you know, in a situation like planet Earth, you feel like you are God because you control so many things, so many people's lives, everything. So why wouldn't you have a God complex if you had more billions than you could possibly ever spend? Most people are, oh, man, if I was like that.

But so therefore that's exactly how I think how they view themselves. I don't know whether he's a believer or not. He's trying to fix a problem. He was the CEO of the greatest company. Yeah. But his problem isn't an age-old problem

physical death. It's in the way. It's in the way. Earth's wearing out. They think, he thinks we can get you up to about 150 years fairly easily once we get it all moved to outer space that we get 150. He's hoping that he can up his age. No, I think it's obvious, Al, that he's not a believer. Because you look at what I do.

So I just did a three-day event. Well, I'm trying to give people the same hope that he's trying. That's right. I'm extending your life. Of course, we're doing it through Jesus. for forever they're saying we can get there without Jesus I'm trying to give you an eating eating that's eternal where you're you're it you're spending time with God quality and if a crocodile eats you it won't hurt you because you're imperishable it's worth a look

so I mean we're doing the same thing because I'm looking at what he's doing and I'm like it's like what's that game when you're like warmer warmer well I'm looking at him like colder colder He's going to outer space trying to figure out how to extend his life. That's right. And I'm like, well, you'd think wouldn't that be warmer? He's getting close to God? No, God's so much bigger than that. You're going to die on the way.

That's it. It's impossible. That's it. And if you find a way to extend the earth, let's say even 100 years by moving all industry or a thousand years off the planet, guess what? You're not going to be around to enjoy it. And he's like, well, I'm leaving it for the kids. But at some point, those kids are going to grow up.

There's a cycle. You're perishable and the earth is wearing out. It's inescapable. His only problem is he's having to deal with, you say, well, is his story a better story than your story, the Jesus story? Your story is a better story. Well, it's way better. And your idea of it.

He said humans can fix it so your mortality is a lot less. We can fix it. where we can get 150 out of every we think. We were the right set up. What I'm saying is with the UK, they're thinking our idea of Eden is a place that hadn't been tampered by humans. Yeah.

But then you just have animals in the earth. So remove all the humans and now we have Eden. Well, that's great for the animals. That's terrible for society. because I think it comes back to that Romans 1. When you get those priorities out of whack, when you value an eagle's egg over a human, unborn human, I think you start having a philosophy

that leads to a lot of chaos and corruption. No doubt. Well, you're right. And that's why even like pets, you know, I was watching a guy last night, I was talking about he's running for mayor in New York City and he was like, if I get elected mayor, there's going to be no euthanizing of animals in New York City. And everybody said, hey.

And I just thought to myself, I mean, it's a, you know, he believes in that. He's running on a platform. But I thought, man, I have all the things that are the most important. You know, that's where he lands. But I think that's where people are. And, you know, this whole idea about space, you're really just delaying or pushing out the human problem. If you notice, anytime you see a futuristic movie. where they've done all these great things like he's, you know, projecting.

And so a movie, some guy will imagine what that would look like. But it never fixes the basic human condition. Even in the movies, there's still somebody goes and kills somebody. And then there's all this intrigue. And that's what they're making the movie. I mean, the human beings as they go out are still going to take all the same problems that you have here on the earth with you wherever you go. So they're in an unsolvable situation because it's just all.

all about the physical instead of the more. I told you all the worst movie I ever tried to watch, which I never made to the end, so I don't know. But they had Tommy Lee Jones in it and Brad Pitt. It was called something weird, astronomical or something. It was Ad Astra. Yeah, something like that. So Tommy Lee Jones is the God-fearing believer, you know,

and I think his son was Brad Pitt, and they're going out there, they're chasing each other through space. And when they finally, he catches up, Well, the God-believing character, Tommy Lee Jones, had gone crazy because he went out throughout space and realized that there's no God because he didn't find him. So then he just went on a psychopathic rampage and killed everybody else because there's no God.

And we're basically, they're trying to get back to Earth because there's nothing out here. And I thought, what kind of message is that sending? this is your fun loving tingle your spine movie that you went out in space determined there's no God and that religious people they're crazy and they killed everybody else and so let's just go back to earth and watch dogs jump into water yep that's pretty much it that was the story and you didn't even make it to the end I didn't make it to the end but that's where it was headed I was like I cannot believe I just watched this thinking I was going to find some kind of inspiration.

I mean, gee whiz, that moved into top 10 things that would cause people to just, you know, depression. And it was horrible. There's no hope. There's nothing out there. You got one life. Who cares what happens in it? Because there's nothing out there. We're screwed.

But it's really interesting because it really from a standpoint of. of godlessness or atheism or whatever, you know, you would always wind up back in that place because, I mean, you look at the evening guy like Bezos. Like I said, he's making billions of dollars. He's got all these big plans about what he wants to do and pay it forward to the future. But ultimately, I mean, is that it? Is that so it's just only the accomplishment here. And for the few that have great accomplishment, I guess they're just like, well, we did something. But even that won't last. I mean, you look back at all the great thinkers of the past. What they didn't have God.

It was a very depressing, you know, existence because it's so limited. It's finite, you know, on this earth. Well, I think it comes from all things are possible. That slogan, and that's the mantra from the Olympic Games to going through space. And we want to believe that. The problem is that story in Matthew 19, where the rich young realtor who was, by all accounts, a great guy who did write things, but he had a lot of money. and you have this conversation, which I don't believe is an accident with Jesus, where he's like, well, go sell everything you have.

Because he was of the same mindset of someone like Bezos that if you have enough money, you can fix anything. You'll buy your way out of this thing. Well, all things are possible. You know why? Because I've got $200 billion. So hold my $1,000 glass of wine and watch this. Hold my golden chalice.

Hang on, Jess. Let's take a brief. But, yeah, in that conversation, Jesus was like, because the disciples were like, if it's so hard for a rich man to go to heaven, because he said it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, which is not possible. But if you had Bezos money, you'd probably be able to figure it out. I mean, make the camel down into one cell somehow and go through the eye of the needle. them you've got enough money i'm sure you could try to make it work but then jesus made that famous

statement where he said well man this is impossible basically saying the principle it doesn't matter how much money you got you're not going to be able to pull off the big problems but we got all things are possible that's why most audiences i will at some point after i give them the story about jesus god becoming flesh dying on the cross being buried and raised from the dead i've asked a lot of groups Al, I said, if you have a better story, we'll stand up and tell it to us, and I just want to hear it. If you have a story that will beat this one. And so far, with all the audiences I've ever talked to, no one has come up with a better story, Al. None.

Well, and like we were talking about, like I mentioned earlier, philosophies come along, and then they become the predominant thought. You know, we've been talking about space stuff in movies. So when I was growing up, Star Trek, you know, my first years, that was a new show. And it's, you know, there had been some other space shows. But it was one where it was kind of like, you know, the first time they were like talking about human issues. Well, Gene Roddenberry, who created Star Trek, was a very famous humanist. I mean, he was at the forefront of the humanist movement.

And so the idea was is that as human beings are traveling around through space, they're bringing this great human spirit. They're bringing all these things that, you know, we're from here on planet Earth and they're impacting all these other, you know, aliens all around the universe. And so that was kind of the idea. Now you come along in post-humanism. Jace just described it. Now the philosophy has shifted that humans are bad. We don't have anything to offer anybody. And so then it's just like, why would we even go if we can't offer anything good because we're terrible?

So that just happened in your lifetime, Dad. I mean, both are without God. One is like, man, human beings are going to be great and they're going to impact the universe and it's like, nah, we're terrible. We can't even manage our own planet. I mean, that's what's happened in 60 years. I was kind of swept up in the teaching until I hit about 28. And I said, wait a minute here.

I hear this story. And I'm like, hmm, I said, that's the best story. I want to how I missed that story. So right in the mix there. And I've been here ever since. I'm like, I'm putting all my marbles in one. bag. And you know what's interesting is from a Christian perspective, a believer's perspective, stuff about space travel and all that is intriguing to us because when Jesus left here,

he left here going that away. So I don't know, he's beyond the material universe, wherever he's at, but he's still left here going that way. And he did it without help of jetpack, rocket, you know, rocket fuel, any of it. And so I think Christians are intrigued by what's out there. And we get a lot of questions about, do you believe in aliens? And what's the Bible saying? I always say, look, yes, I believe there are things beyond this realm. There's angels. There's all kind of beings that we read about in the Bible that weren't of this earth. So there's stuff out there. There's no doubt about it. I don't know exactly what all is there, but there's stuff out there. And one day we're going to know about the whole ball of wax.

Well, I think when you get off that priority list, though, when you don't have God as the objective. Because we know from the Bible, his principles are the way to live life and view life. That's why he said, love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we're always saying that. And then you have the animal world and our responsibility to the planet and space. Yeah, I'm all for flying throughout space, but I'm realizing God, God made all this. And we're going to always keep those priorities. Another funny story that, that was telling you about the fly ruin and the domino, Guinness Book of World Records.

But another story that they said came out of that was there, there was a guy in Uganda because down there, the mosquitoes, we have a lot of mosquitoes here. So anything, you know, a story about the outdoors or mosquitoes gets my attention because we do so much battle with them. But in Africa, you know, they carry malaria. They kill you. And so they're constantly trying to do something about the mosquito, I mean, wipe them out.

And then you got the people who don't want to kill a bug fighting them about it. And it's like, well, it's killing people, you know. But they said, this is true story. This is one story that sounds false, but it's true. But they discovered a community in Uganda where nobody in a six-mile radius of this camp had gotten malaria. and they're like, what do y'all? What do y'all do? What's the deal? And they're like, well, we got a guy who's, I don't even know how to describe it,

what the technical word is, but they basically said he has, his intestines have produced when he farts or whatever, it has become a mosquito deterrent. Now, y'all are thinking you make this up, but that you can Google this story. It's called Gone with the Wind. and so look Jason you watch some lot of lot

so listen to this this is true story what kind of story is this no look these doctors and a medical group

have hired this guy and they're studying his intestines trying to figure out what I mean his job which I always thought that you know

it's hard to come home to your family and say what do you do for a living and they're like basically I have become a test for the medical world to try to capture and harness whatever it's coming from my body

because it is a mosquito fogger. You read it. I'm not making this up. So they hired him. They're trying to make a chemical. That's what you're saying. Yeah. Well, they're making, they're trying to replicate the chemical concoction that I guess God put in his body.

That is a deterrent to mosquitoes. I mean, you think about a six-mile radius. So that's a fun fact for you. Yeah. Unless you're married to. Well, I did think about that. I was right. But it was something that he was embarrassed about,

and now he's making money, because they might have a mosquito fogger in the form of a human that can save people's lives from malaria. Yeah. So, hey, let's take one last break. So in our last segment here, that brings up an interesting thought. So we know there's science, and which is basically the study, continued study of surroundings and testing.

That's what you're seeing. Those are scientists, Jay, that are, you know, trying to figure out what's different about this guy. So they can formulate a theory. So then they can hopefully reproduce it. So we know that science produces laws, you know, the law of thermodynamics. and there's certain law that matter can't be created or destroyed. Gravity.

Gravity. Yeah, gravity. All these are based on observable facts through years. And so they have these theories and then at some point they become laws. And so people of faith, you know, we're kind of looked at as they don't believe in any of that because they believe in God. So they don't believe in science. But that's not true. Like we believe God is just bigger than that because he created everything.

We're the ones trying to figure everything out. He's beyond that. So when something comes in and it's outside of the normality of science, we look at it and say, oh, you just said it, Jason, I guess God made him this way or I guess God put him in this for some reason. People of faith just have a bigger answer. That's right. I'm looking at it in that priority order. You know, when I read in John 1 where it said nothing in creation was made without Jesus, nothing.

and then I read later on and understand once I come to Jesus that he now lives inside of me, well, just look at the I.M statements of what he said. You know, he's the way, he's love, he's light, he's truth, he's the shepherd, he's the resurrection. Well, you just take all those qualities that you have inside of you. After a while, you're looking around thinking, oh, I'm somebody because of who's him, I don't have to worry about death. I don't have to worry about past mistakes. I don't have to worry about being scared of the dark or finding truth.

I have this access to this supernatural being that's indwelling me. By the way, by the way, to prove your point, what I've been watching here lately in my older years, the statement, and there's several places that's mentioned, in the fullness of, of time, you say, Jesus appeared to die for on a cross, to get people out from under law. But that statement in the fullness of time, what's interesting to me is that going back to 2021, give or take one or two, three years,

when Jesus appeared, Bible says in the fullness of time, will you think about that al you say the maker of time appears in the fullness of time well y'all think about it look these scriptures were written about him shortly after he left the scriptures were written down and out there's been no more scriptures it all stopped the the passage of information about this one being Jesus Christ. It's all just stopped. Nothing else has been said,

which is pretty remarkable if you look at it. What else would he need to do? I mean, he basically took away all your problems. Yeah. In a moment in time. And God just stopped talking, Al. He just... But I think the irony of that is that Jesus,

who is eternal, because he was with God in the beginning. Yep. He was, you know, you had the Holy Spirit hovering over the waters. And he waited before he appeared. But he actually inserted himself into time. Well, think about how all righting that was. You got an eternal being that said, I'm now going to become a member of time for a short time.

Which is what we live by time, but he's not. Well, he did it for 33 years. That's right. And then when he was resurrected, well, then he went back essentially as far as the time went back, back to where he's started because he was internal that eternal anyway that's why he said it was impossible or peter said that for death to keep its hold on him because he had god's spirit but the the fascinating part is that same spirit romans 811 that caused him to come forth from the ground is living in us and we're the same way yeah all of a sudden we go from inserted into time to

eternal beings that's it i mean i don't see why anybody wouldn't on in on. And you wonder why, how you say, well, what happened to the writings? God says, that ought to do it. He did a lot more while he was here, but even all the books in the world wouldn't hold if you told the whole story. This is enough that ought to do it for you. Well, I read it. I'm like, you know, I think that's the way out of here. Have you ever thought about that You know, a verse we read all the time that Acts 1726. Because right before that, he said he gives all men life and breath and everything else. From one man he made every nation of men that they should live on the earth.

So that's what we're doing. Yep. But then it makes this little statement. And he determined the times set for them in the exact places where they should live. That's right. I think humans who haven't encountered Jesus would find that impossible for some being to not only give you a spirit and give you a body in your mother's womb and do that multi-billion times if you look at the history of mankind. Yeah. But he also did it at the right time for when they could come out to have the best chance to encounter him.

Yep. because the next verse says he did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him. So I don't think it's that hard to believe for God to do that. He's God. I mean, when you think of all the miraculous thing he does or the supernatural thing, do you find it hard to believe that God made every person on purpose

in a way that they would find him? That's why faith, hope, and love you look at that and you say you know when you get right down to it if this is not it jace i don't know where it is it makes a whole lot more sense to me though that god is behind all this than to just think it all just happened and now we're fine we know what we're going to do with bezos try to make a bunch of money so we can figure out how to get off the planet or to try to save the planet for the animals and then we just all die. We're spending on wheels here.

I'm telling you. Well, we only have a minute left, and I'll use this as, you know, next time we get together, we'll be back in Romans 15. But one of my favorite passages in Romans 15, this will be our teaser for our next podcast, is in verse 7 where it says, except one in. another just as Christ accepted you in order to bring praise to God. So I want to dig deeper because I think every time when we look at the structure of what God has laid out for us, it's always about what he's done for us first.

And second, it's how we respond. So when you base accepting one another, because this whole point of Romans is that everyone can be saved. That God is a lover of everyone, Jew, Gentile, all the differences that we tend to broke out. Slave, free, male, female. Everyone can be safe.

But the foundation for that is you look at how Christ accepted us, and then in turn, you accept one another. So that's the teaser for next time. And to Dad's point, as we wind up, a little tease for where we're headed, we're going to wind up teaching or talking through the book of Matthew. And the word fulfillment is used more in the book of Matthew than any of the other gospels or New Testament epistles because that really becomes its theme that Christ is the ultimate fulfillment of everything. And so that's kind of going to be the general basis of us going back through that wonderful gospel.

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