Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 331 | Jase and Al Become Tabloid Villains & How Jase's Grandparent Drama Escalated QUICKLY

Episode Date: August 19, 2021

It’s Jase’s birthday, and he explains how it was forever ruined by Elvis Presley. Jase and Al talk about why Al’s golf game is now glorified Putt-Putt. Phil, Jase, and Al describe what it's like to be featured in a tabloid. Phil gives his opinion on the name Jase wants his grandkids to call him. Al reveals Jase, Missy, and Lisa's bleep-worthy misunderstanding of what he said to Jase. And Jase explains why "where are we going?" is the wrong question to ask. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jay's today is your birthday. It is. I've gotten several texts. Yeah, a lot of texts. No phone calls, because I've learned something. People, when they get 50, which I'm over 50. 50. The only people who call you are over 50. Because, like, somebody like you feel, you don't realize now a cell phone. It's not used for calling people.

If somebody's calling me, it's spam. You're not going to know what that means. Spam is a collection of people calling trying to scam you. And it comes up on the phone now. Spam. Spam risk. The spam meat, they take all the parts that you would never eat, put them together, call it spam. People eat it.

On the phone, people call other people, usually over 50. because they're the only ones are going to answer the phone. Most people text, so you text each other. You use your phone for everything but a phone call. Think about it. That's true.

You get information. You listen to all music, not just some music, all music. You have access to anything in the world. But if somebody calls you, you're almost offended because they're interrupting

whatever else you were done on phone. Why would you want to talk to me? Why don't you send me a text and line it up? I have a little bit. board on my left of my chair and I have little pieces of paper with phone numbers on them. But if anybody calls, I just glanced at that. And if it's none of those numbers, you'll never be able to talk to me. It's a small.

It's a small. But you still, as a general rule, answer your phone. It's not that bigger board. You answer the phone because you're still in the air. You know that we had a phone for what, 110 years before you could actually move away from the couch to talk. Just think how long that is. I remember when telephones came into existence.

Well, that's what I mean. Nobody had a telephone. And then someone, then it started out party line, 10 people are on it. Everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah, shut up, get off the line, women chewing you out. So I thought, it was a hassle man.

Remember the first? Now I can't even describe what it is. Remember the first time you got a portable phone that you could walk around the house with? It was like, I mean, we're Cadillac and now. I can walk in the... I remember when the remote turned the TV on came into it. Because up into the end, you got up.

No, we... You didn't have a four channels. No, you didn't get up. We were the remote. Being Jace were the remote. I was a human remote. Well, now Phil, look... Jay's going to change the...

Now you had four channels, one remote. Now there's one TV and four remotes. I know it. And thousands of channels. That's what I'm telling you're missing out. See, there's a time war. You're 50. I'm 75.

No, I'm over 50. He's 50 more than 50. And from when you were a child when you were born 50 years ago, the thing that's happened in that last 50 years, I can't even explain it to anybody. I said, what in the world happened? The more disturbing thing here is that you really don't know how old I am, and you're my father.

Well, he's been saying you're getting close to 50 years. I would have to admit, I didn't know today until right now. I didn't know today is your birthday. Yeah, I know. So guess what? That's your, so my traditional gift of Jayson's birthday is a case of golf balls. Because you had a hole in one last week. Well, I was going to tell you, that was my birthday round because I'm here with you on my birthday,

which we used to for a long time. We had a tradition. We played on our birthdays. Yep. When all the brothers played golf. Mine was the hardest because it was during duck season. It was in general. Al now has a turning.

The older you get, he can no longer turn. No, I got a turn. So now he's turned into basically a. mini, mini, putt putt golfer. I go from here to here. That's about it. Every time Willie swings, something breaks, tears, or rips in his body. Yeah.

Because he always had had a buy-in. I've heard about this game, y'all call fun, and I'm like, it just doesn't seem like it was any fun. Well, I'm going to tell you why it's fun. So I have not, I played one round in a month. And this guy that I play with, so I want to take you play golf for your birthday. Which I thought that been he's going to pay for my car for something. No, that just meant we showed.

up and he rode along with me on a round that I paid for. No finances. That's not a gift. Your gift was getting to spend four hours with him. I spent the whole round thinking of how I was going to tell him, should I thank him for something I could have done by myself? So look, I parted the first, though, borderline miraculous that I parted it because I top my drive.

I sculled my second shot to part five. I was like, oh, wow. Yeah, I sculled my second shot down there that evaded two ponds. I then chunk the third one that barely made it past the pond. I'm like 70 yards out. You got out of that? Well, yeah, but listen to the story. So then I basically sculled the next shot, but I got lucky because they had a...

What does scow mean? That means you hit about six inches off the ground. going way too fast. Your club raises up until you hit it and it just drills it. In the golf world, it's a bad thing. Yeah, it's a worm burner. But they had turned the sprinklers on that morning to water the green. And so when my ball hit where the sprinkler was, it stopped.

Or it had gone out of bounds. So now I got about a 40-footer for par, and I drained it. I made the 40-foot putt. So I thought, no. That's all you need. And yeah, I thought maybe it is a birthday round. So we go to the next hole, which is a par three, 155. It's embarrassing that I'm hitting a seven iron.

But it was into the win because usually, you know, people hit a shorter club. So I teed the ball up and I hit it. And I was mad because I didn't hit one good shot on the first hole. So I kind of just concentrated, took the swing, hit it dead flush. I looked up. It was headed to where I was going. I was like, that's what I was more like. A family's got a good swing.

This is what I came here to do. I'm picking the tee up. I'm walking back to the cart. Ball's still in the air. And my buddy, who supposedly was taking me on the golf round, says that may go in. Well, when he said that, I looked, and it bounced in front of the pen, a little trickle, disappeared. But I'd like to say that I enjoyed it more, but I was still angry of how I played the first. I'm not going to jump up and down.

on by doing what I was supposed to be doing. So I was like, yep, happy birthday, Jay's. I noticed evidently golf is a game with many emotional ups and downs. Yeah, it is. It is. Because when I hear y'all talk about it, it tells me that you were wise, not to have a fool that crap. Well, I'm preaching.

What I've noticed is the older you get, the more balls you need. That's right. That's why we give each other. Yeah. And look, those balls cost about, $5 a piece. Whoever's doing that? That's what you need to get into.

So Jay sent me a text and his boys right after that happened and he had a picture of the scorecard and said that just happened. I saw that one. So it's the kind of game, just from what I hear y'all talking about it, that unless you're good, I mean, being good really helps the emotional level. Well, just being good at it. It does. But the problem is even the pros, even that there's so much better than us.

but they're still chasing the perfect, right? Golf is a game you never feel fully satisfied because. And so you just have a, maybe if you have the round of your life, well, then you've got to come back and play another round. So it's just, it never ends. It's a pursuit is why I think people like the game.

It's probably top ten dumbest. The pursuit of perfection. It is. Top ten dumbest things we humans ever came up with that I actually do. I wasn't going to say that, but I thought. But we enjoy it. I mean,

I've got an idea. let's go dig 18 holes and try to put a round object in it. And whoever does it in the fewer strokes, we'll call him great. So, Jason, what's interesting is your birthday is August 16th is also, well, one of the things is memorable about it, is eight years after your birthday. Are we going to bring this up? Oh, yeah. Elvis died on Jason's birthday, August of 16th. If I did go to counseling, it would go back.

It turned out to be a somber day. Do you remember the day, you still remember the day, Granny told it? I remember the day the party died. Here's all the gifts. We're all fixed to eat. And they're like, oh, wait a minute. Elvis just died. And when I'm saying the party died with it, I don't know where everybody went, but they left there.

And now every year after that for about 10. 10 years, which is the reason my job would be the anniversary of Elvis. It was so difficult. We can't celebrate your birthday because everybody's crying because Elvis died because our family was big Elvis fans. That's right. And Granny is the one that told us that day. So I had to bring it up because I don't know if we talked about it.

I actually maybe one of the few that actually saw Elvis Presley perform. Yeah. Really? When I hadn't heard of the Missouri, Louisiana, Louisiana Hayride. And that was in his early day. And you went? I actually,

about a eight-year-old 10. Oh, I was fixed to say, was there any drinking involved, but that was before you started. This was just watching the chicks jump up and down and go nuts. And my kinfolks, the females, they had this thing. They were like taking napkins and wiping the dust off of Elvis's Cadillac. And they kept that as a memoir for a few years. The dust off of his catalog. You got some weird Ken folks.

I was just looking around saying, I'm lost. So one of our good friends, Rhonda, who we've known forever and helped lead them to Christ, when she was a little girl, Elvis came to Monroe and he was performing at the Civic Center. And at the end, he would like take these scars off and throw them out in the crowd. Well, she was there on the front row. And so he took his scarf off and he went to hand it to her where some woman comes up and grabs it away from Rhonda. Did she ever get over it?

She was a little girl. Well, listen to the rest of it. So he pulls her up on stage when this woman took the thing because like you said, they're snatching and grab it. And he takes his necklace out, one of his necklaces he wore, you know, gold necklace and puts it over her neck. I mean, the crowd goes wild, you know, and she goes back out to her mom. Well, she's had that her whole life.

Oh, I thought she's going to say she walked to the vehicle when somebody. No. Robbed her. And no, she had it her whole life. But she's always had a dream of having her own restaurant. So just within the last few years, and that thing's worth a lot of money. One is the story of it that it was actually he is and it's Chronicle because there's a picture of her on that stage that was in the newspaper with that around their name. But she sold it so she could start a restaurant.

So I thought it was pretty much. She did well the price. Yeah, well, she waited 40 years, you know, before she sold it. So, you know, see, it shows you how humanity is. I never listened to Elvis after that because it was always known to me as the guy. who ruined my birthday. And I was coming out. I mean, I was a kid.

I was like eight years old. Yeah. I was like, whoever Elvis is, I don't like him anymore. I remember his performance, and all I can say is a lot of gyration. A lot of,

a lot of. So you'll find this interesting. So this past weekend, I'm down at the Southern Lair, actually on Friday. And I'm standing in line and waiting to check out at Rouse's at the supermarket. And I'm just looking over, when I said the tabloids are always right there by them where you check out and so i just it catches my

eye that they got Elvis on there course they're about to celebrate jace's birthday and his passing 44 years now and i look there and i'm reading that you know they found the person that caused elvis's death you know somebody he was a secret in love with whatever you know tabloid so i'm like look at that and then i look up in the corner of the tabloid and there's a picture of dad and i thought oh boy I bet that was a story. It was a dad and Phyllis. And it said, feud over $15 million fortune,

Love Child gets her cut. You know, that was the title of that. So then I look at it, and it was just like this one that came out of it. And I'm not mentioning the taboy, because I don't want you all to buy it. But because they can't Google it in about it.

Well, they can. But look, let me, I just want to mention it because it's all a bunch of bull. But they just make up stuff is what gets me. But Jay,

it's the bad thing about these, these tabloid articles dad and phyllis are coming off looking fine it's like they love each other and dad's glad to have her the villains are us oh i'm the villain you're the villain and me you know because we you know we're and now mom they threw her to the bus they're like yeah they're she's getting all their money blah blah blah and if i get back on tv again this is all going to start so they weren't ripping me no they were like they talked good about you really they said and it's funny because it lets me know that somebody's listened to our podcast or whatever because the stuff they were quoting from you stuff was actually said that you know you've enjoyed getting a knower stuff like that stuff we've

talked about but with us they were like oh those kids they're moody and you know they don't want her to have any money and it was just a bunch of bull for the past six or seven about six or seven years that's what mom said mom said well one of them is moody the last six to seven years about seven years, I have to confess our audience that I haven't been shopping in a store at any time at any... You wouldn't find the tabloid, would you?

Unless I brought it to Dad today. Let's take a break. I missed all that. Yeah, I wanted to bring it so you could see it. But anyway, look, by the way, we laugh about it because people are going to make stuff up about you. It's just the way it is. All right, so I want to mention something, Jay's on a past podcast. I've been

meeting to bring this up. I forgot about it last week. Oh, I haven't. Because this is What happens when you get our wives, number one, on the podcast? Which, by the way, our audience, at least most of the people I've been hearing from, love it when our wives are on the podcast. They do? They do. And so you were gone.

You were doing Dusty Hills eulogy, you and William. So in your absence, we talked about this. I'd love to see how Al's fixed a wiggle out of this. So we had Missy and Lisa own. So we get at the end of the podcast and we start talking about, and Missy wanted to talk about this, by the way. She wanted to talk about it. I didn't want to talk about it.

It's about names for Jason, grandparent names because, you know, Reed and Brightner have... Grandparent names. What they're going to be called. Phil, I'm fixed to be a grand... I'm 52 and I'm fixed to be a grandparent. Yeah, read and Brighton.

So now you're up on the latest events. That's right. So you are the, you're entering the pap hall zone. Well, that was what the debate was over. Missy. What to call you? What to call you? What to call you?

What to call you? What to call you? Now look, what I can't stand? Well, take the advice, so what do they call me? No, no, we've already gone through this. We're not looking for those names. I gave her the name. And she asked, this is kind of like when somebody asked you do a favor and then you don't do it, then they're mad.

This is what happened? Because she said, what name do you want to be called? I thought about it for a second. She had no idea what I was fixed to say. And I said, rock. Rock. Rock. Rock.

Rock. Rock. Rock. Rock. Not the rock on. Rock. not the rock i said rock the the problem happened when al because then so so what for you say something so dad if i said to you there's here's a saying dumb as a what would you put in that line dumb as a

dumb as a ox dumb as a okay al i think we've proven my point okay so there's also a saying dumb as a rock dumb as a bag of hammers there's a lot of different dumb here's what happened phil when al al said what are you going to be called? Dumb as A. And all I heard was a dumb donkey. He thought I- All three of them, including Josh, our engineers, thought I said, oh, as in dumb A-star-star.

But I was saying dumb as A. But there's a lot of people out there who thought, well, we did. And look, I didn't think, I thought. But I didn't think anything about it because I didn't say that. So, like, they all reacted strongly. I thought they were laughing at my job. I thought Al was calling me. and I thought Al has had a midlife breakdown.

I really thought that. Our cousin Lulu thought the same thing. You could get the King James version of the Bible and you could, you could. I mean, in the grand. You could biblically say dumb ass. Yeah. Now it's been said. It's biblical.

Now it's been said. King Jane version. A lot of people say, live or die by the King James Version. He was, he was not saying that. And so I. I showed a Jewish guy over there. over there and Genesis. I showed a Jewish guy when Ishmael was born,

and he said he will be a wild. The King James Version said a wild ass of a man. That's what it says. But in the NIV, it says wild donkey of a man. But when I showed him, he was reading from the King James, and I was reading for the NIV, a Jewish guy. I was just showing him the background of Ishmael. Both of them came from Abraham.

So he was like, I've never seen that before. I said he will live a wild ass of a man and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. And then you said King James Version and winked at him. Well, his sons, it said the same thing. They were full of trouble and they were all wild donkeys of men. Well, technically, Al was right because he didn't say that I thought he did. And I thought people were going to be offended because there's a lot of people out there who are just like, this is your first beeping opportunity on the podcast.

You know where they put the little beep. I don't think it would be a little crude to use that terminology for a grandfather. But he wasn't using it, but I thought he was. So I thought, well, then once they told me what they thought I said, when I played it back in my mind, I thought, oh, I see how that sounded like that. Well, I will say this, Jase, as far as your lifestyle is concerned, and any upcoming. I mean, grandfathers who find out that information on their birthday, they're good night, I'm fixing to be a... I noticed that two things stand out about grand, which means grand. And also, then you have another child from that group, and it's great-grandfather.

That's right. So it's great. Great and grand are put together. I'm not quite sure why the human race decided to call each other great and grand when they get 50 years on them. It's worthy of note. Because it's awesome. And every generation you add is another great. Because think about it.

What's better than great and grand? You look across the spectrum and great, great. I'm looking at all of our siblings that came from y'all, you, Jace, Willie. Yep. And Al and Phyllis and Jepa. I'm looking at that whole group and it's turning in. into a large group that are now into not only grandfather, it's great-grandfather, and moving into the, if you last long enough, what we are doing. Now I'm great, great-grandfather.

Well, I've got a 15- and a 13-year-old granddaughter, so there's a good chance. If you hang around for 10 more years, you will be a great, great-grandfather. You'll be a double-great. So why is it that term of endearment? Why is that attack? to you when you get 50 plus. Like Jason is just entering. I'm on down the way 25 years. It's an accomplishment. It's a survival.

Maybe that's what it is. You survived generations and your progeny. You're able to watch. Maybe that's it. You're able to watch things happen. He's still here. That's right. I mean, it's just saying it's a great thing.

So, Jace, our unashamed audience, because Missy asked him to, has weighed in on some names that they think you and missy should consider and so i think this is i want to get dad's reaction on some of these is this is any profane language no no profane we've already we've already covered and by the way jays i'll make a pledge i'll never call you that a dumb a star star uh ever uh yeah well i figured at least in front of you i thought you were having a midlife crisis i think that's too crude for our family structure yeah i wouldn't do that i wouldn't do that well not i not to your face you see i thought he did because i wasn't familiar with that saying I had never heard.

You have to remember, I'm feeling, I'm thinking, I'm, I just felt on your birthday and your explanation of what were they going to call you, I just entered a zone where, you know, I'm like, you're not an expert. I've been here a long time. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm lucky to be here. So here's the first one from Lynn, Pee Pee and Chachai. A little too yuppie for me, but here's Papa Rock and Big Mama.

Well, I like that because I'm. Missy's going to love Big Mom. Only if Grandma was getting a little heavy in her feelings. That won't work. Now, I won't work. Here's a funny one from Robin. Missy should be Lolly and Jace be Pops. I like that.

Lally and Pops. Kind of silly. Then you're going to love this one, Dad, from Jennifer. Fuzzy and Muzzy. Hey, Fuzzy. I do like, she did give an alternative, which is pretty good, Jay's. You like this one, Duck and Birdie. What about that?

Duck. That comes old Duck, Jace. That's pretty good. Jay's why I'm, Jace, Duck. A lot of them just said traditional Mamaw Papal. Alam said that. This is a good one.

Missy, this one from Tammy. Missy should consider honey because she's sweet. Jay should be called Bam Bam Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam.

I like it. That's pretty good. Papa Jay, Grand Miss. Okay. Papi Nanny and most of these. Honey and the rock there's another honey but look i noticed rock is so why is it why is it throwing around names why is it you can give the audience this why is it you call me dad and jace calls me feel because they're weird

he and willie both are strange people because two of you call me dad two of you call me by your first name yeah we've talked about before we think it's because we used to run a business and they used to answer the phone now i say it's just because they're strange i think when we were at that critical age of whatever, three to six, because that's where they say these psychologists, they say pretty much when you get six, it's over. You know, well, you've figured out whatever you're going to do. Well, that was the most tumultuous time of your life.

Up to six? When I was six years old, you were, you know, just acting like a craze wild man. And so I think we just thought, you know what, that's not working. I really think that. And Willie followed your lead. He followed my lead. The dad and son.

That was, that was, you know, old field. It just was like, old Phil. Maybe so. Let's take another break. Well, you know, it could have been. I really think that. It could have been, yeah, and then, and like, but then they always did. But then you're right.

I don't understand. I always called you mom and dad. I never called you by your first name. Well, when they said, well, because when somebody said when I was six years old, and they said, dad's coming, I ran. So it wasn't a favorable view. There was no chastisement associated with what I was called. We just let it ride, you know.

Well, y'all did. If I had been like a kind of emotionally disturbed individual, I would have made a point out of that probably. Yeah, you didn't. You didn't seem to mind. Phil would do it. That's my name. Yeah.

Well, a lot of people, they're like, what's a respect. Well, they felt like they were disrespecting. Yeah. I'd call you by your first name. But that's just how we were. raise. If you go up north, they think it's disrespectful to the same, ma'am and sir. But Jayce or Willie as a kid nor are you. None of y'all ever was, what's what do you call it? Just, you never disruptive over.

Well, it's, well, people who make this point there, it's kind of like people who go to church and they argue about, you know, what the names of God or what you're going to call them. And then you go out there and live like the devil. Well, you know what? What's your calling the guy? I don't mean the guy as in disrespectful. I'm making my point here that if you're not respecting him in your life, because we never disrespected you in our life.

Not once. So what we called you, I think we learned that. I mean, I actually think that was true. That's a good point because, like, we may have done things, especially me, that was disrespectful in our lifestyle towards who you, were as was not very honoring. But when you think about it, there are two different commandments, you know, in the Ten Commandments when God gave the law to the Jews that dealt with how you respected him and your parents. I mean, he said, don't misuse my name. And then he said,

honor your father and mother. So out of the top 10, two of them deal with this very subject, which means I mean, I actually think because our childhood was traumatic. You know, I think it was a contributing factor. We moved during that time. And, you know, you were, even when you came to the Lord, it was a little bumpy there. You know, it was just a, because I look back, I was just scared to death of just like, get out of it, go do your own thing kind of. And I was more because I experienced more. I was more just happy and joyful that like. But you were older.

Right. That's what I'm saying. I was almost 11. But I had, I was just like, he's back and we got a better life. You know, things are better. And I was more in tune with mom than Jace was because he was young. like the hard parts for her. So that's why I think I was so overjoyed about it.

So, I mean, I still remember, you know, you talk about things you married. I still remember clearly the day you pulled up in, in the apartment parking lot. I remember it clearly. So if you have a memory like that that stands out and I'm only, you know, that was 45 years ago. I can remember the TV in the back. That's why I brought up the age. They say that. You're from when you're that age.

Like if you take a kid and put them in a real difficult situation from three to six, you're going to have trouble. That whatever, when all the brain is getting all lined out there. That's probably what the commandment five is all about. That's right. That's exactly right. I mean,

that's what I've always thought, but I never kind of shared it because I thought, well, I may be wrong. But. So it's interesting now, and Phyllis, who we now only known for a year and a half,

last night she and Tony were at our house and she got her first asked to to come and share her story and so she's kind of working through it but so she was asking me to give her some ideas about it and that you know so we were kind of walking through her life and it was really interesting because hearing her talk about it even though we now met her for the first time when she was 44 years old god's hand had been owner her whole life protecting her yep you know without really her being able, I mean, she should, a lot of more bad things should have happened to Phyllis, and yet it didn't because of her setting, because she basically raised herself, you know? And it was really interesting to hear her talk about it and sort of put that together

in a where she can tell her life story. Obviously now it's, you know, she's built more to the end. But I just thought, you know, the hand of God being present and when you can look back in your life and recognize it and notice, just like you, dad. I mean, you had those 10 years, a lot of bad stuff could have happened. You could have been killed. Oh, yeah. You could have died in a fiery crash. Oh, yeah. A hunting accident. I mean, you were in a position where a lot of bad stuff could happen. But, but even though you weren't living for God, somehow still, you survived it all to then. I came close to death multiple times. Multiple times. And yet, here you are, you know, still doing what you do, which I think is amazing. So I'll mention two more of these, Jays, and then we'll move on.

because this one I thought was pretty funny from Amy. Goob and Gigi. You would be go. You would be goob, I guess. Yeah, I guess you thought that was. I thought that was pretty bad. So people are actually calling each other these names. I guess so.

There's some more. Well, Gigi was Missy's grandma. That's what they called her. And so another one had Gigi and Paul, which I thought was pretty good. But that's what the... So take those to Missy. I was trying to... I was trying to be different.

And I thought, Rock, there was a lot of meanings there. I kind of like, the more, you know, I was laughing about it when you said it, but the more I thought about, I kind of liked that. You ought to ask Missy what she thinks. Oh, boy. She's like, so we, because we were in two different vehicles, so we go home, I walk in, she's like, rock, really?

So she didn't even. 30 minutes to think about it when she left. I said, you're still thinking about it. Don't ask the question if you don't. want to hear the answer. So how has it impacted your wife, which is Mammal now, Ma. She's loving it. She's excited. And there's no, because to me it was a when's the baby due? Well, bad question, Phil, because I can't remember in the fall. You got about a nine-month window. I mean, is it on the six month, the third month? Don't know exactly

off the top of my head. Jay's left. Well, it's nine months for when you first found out. Most children, Stay in the room for nine months. How about this? The fall. Somewhere in the fall. Somewhere in the fall. Which I noticed Briden wasn't here. Was she working?

Was she here? Did she come this weekend? She did. Okay. But she was because she was working. So she's beginning to waddle the last time I say. Yeah. Get the waddling stage.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She looks great. Yeah. So I'm excited for them. They're going to do so well with it. But it really is.

It's a life changer day. Because once you get into that, I mean, you're already kind of experiencing it. Of course, you still have a teenage daughter. But with my kids, like when they started having got married and started having kids, I realized that dad is always like our overarching patriarchart. But now I'm a patriarchart. Yep. Like once I get a third generation, they're looking to me to be that sort of leader of this group.

That's why that chin of yours, it's white. That's right. Getting whiter every day. Jason, you're following there. yours is beginning to turn great i knew you would point that you know what i can't believe i can't believe at all this has happened this quickly out seems fast now it's unbelievable well because you are where you are i mean everything seems fast where you are because you look back you have more memories that's why i say murray who i'm meldetech with a lot i was like the only thing he has left is history because he

doesn't want to look ahead he's like boy that's fast because he's he's looking where he's been you know Well, that's all over. By the way, we're the same age, Murray and I. Yeah. So, well, that's why I was bringing it up. Let's take another break. Yeah, I mean, it goes by fast. That's exactly the point of it.

But you still remember those things. I mean, I'm just going back in my mind, 45, 50 years ago. You were telling a story on one of the last couple of podcasts about remembering what a, what a break look like, you know, a prairie, duck prairie. Yep. And that was over 50 years ago. Oh, yeah. But you still never forgot. I was about 22.

Yeah. And yet, man, it does go by fast, which kind of makes you wonder and think about eternity with the idea of what will it be like without the passing of time. Yeah. Because we're so locked into it on earth. What a great thought, though. It is. But it is.

That is the thought. Right. Outside of. Living in the present, if you don't have time, that is, that you're just, you, that's why Jesus said, I am. Right. You're like, what? but I want to figure out what that means that's exactly right which is important why we always live for that that purpose well I love the story I love the story where they tried to trap him

I think it's Matthew 20 off top of my head I'm not sure but where they're like well now let's just they took the Jewish law and they got a woman here been married seven times because in their list of laws which is frightening if something happened to your husband, you had to marry the guy's brother, whether you like it or not. You're up. Next man up. That's right. Exactly.

And that was Jewish law. We come up with these laws. So they're like trying to trap Jesus. Like, not the resurrection. So they're like, we believe in the resurrection, but we believe more strongly, because based in what they said, in this Jewish law. Right. but whose wife,

we're going to live forever, but whose wife is going to be? She's done this seven times. But his answer, which he didn't really give them the answer they were looking for, but he did say, you're ignorant and you don't understand the power of God. And he quickly did that,

which makes me think that it's going to be a lot easier, an easier adjustment than we think. He's like, the power of God, we'll take care of that. Well, that's always my point. When people, because people want us to talk about it more on the podcast, and somebody asked recently,

why don't y'all ever talk about heaven more? And I was like, well, because the Bible doesn't deal a lot with it. I mean, we know it is an entity. It is something there, but it doesn't say a lot because we really can't comprehend it very well. Because it's not about the place. It's not about the place. Now, people get, oh, man, they hate it when I go down this road.

But it's like, I've used this. illustration thousands of times, but I got it from the Bible. If you're going on a trip, what is the most important thing? You know where you're going? No. But your first reaction is always that. Where are we going? It's actually not. It's who you're going with because that makes all the difference in the world. You can go to the greatest place on earth with the worst person. And guess what? By the time you get there, you don't care. This is not great. This is a whole. This is a horrible. Where's that Bible verse? Well,

Jay says away looking at stuff. No, all right. The Bible verse is in John 14. So he says, just hang with me here for a second. He's like, one of the most famous quoted verses, especially at funerals.

And they missed the entire point and they continue today. I'm sure there's a funeral somewhere today where there's a guy quoting John 14. And it'll That happens a lot to misusing the verses for sure. Well, in a room full of Thomas's, this is what happens. He says, don't let your hearts be trouble.

Trust in God. Trust in me. I mean, that's where we should just stop because that's my point. If you're with God and with Jesus, it doesn't matter where you're going. But he opened it up saying, but in my father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, I would have told you. I'm going there to prepare a place. for you. And so if people talk about this place, what it is and where they go to Revelation.

Is it a real house? Here's a floating square full of rooms. It goes out through space. I mean, don't grant because people actually that I respect teach that. It's going to drop down and pick you up. I've heard the big apartment complex. So look, if I go. It looks like a Borg cube landing on America. After I heard it, Jay's, I said, I hop touch just sure having such a great place. So he's, you know, streets of gold, like that's going to do you some good. That's what I'm saying. It's just so ridiculous. It's like New York City just dressed up a little more.

And they got Peter up there at the gate. I'm like, wait a minute, that gate was for the spirit to fall, does the door to the church. You can get in on the, they. He's already opened the gate. No, he's still up there. He's been waiting 2,000 years at the gate. You know, his hair's getting longer. And we got a street to go.

I mean, I'm making fun of it. but I just think if the point's best based on this. So he says, if I go and prepare a place for you, I'll come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I'm going. Now I'm just going to stop here because everybody talks about the place here.

Because they're like, well, that's what he was talking about. Just look in these three verses, how many times did he mention I or me or my? I mean, I'll let y'all count a lot. As in every other word. Yep. So Thomas said, just like we do, when we hear the preacher, well, Lord, we don't know where you going. All he got out of that was where.

Right. So how can we know the way? We need to know where we're going. Need a roadmap. How? How? That's all. So Jesus answered, I think the most fact.

famous quote of all Jesus quotes, I am the way, the truth, the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. What happened to this place stuff? He wasn't talking about the place anymore. You're looking at him. So to me, that's the point is you're going to go and be where I am. We're all going to be together. I mean, if you go to, look what he says in John 14 in verse 23.

It's kind of the opposite. He said, Jesus replied, if anyone loves me, he'll obey my attention. My father will love it. We'll come to him and we'll make our home with him. Well, we'll just move the home. Now, what kind of home is that? What was he referring to, Jace?

What exactly were the dimensions of the home? What is the home? Where is that going to take place? No, the home is where the entities are, me, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and God. That is the home. Now, you can call it heaven, earth, somewhere in between, somewhere beyond.

So I think that was his point. It's who you're with. Let's take our last break. It's not describable. I think it's who you're with and for how long. So think, if you're with God forever, do you really need to know the details of the landscape? On this side of it.

Peter gave us a little insight probably when he said, we're looking forward to new heavens and a new earth. And what does that mean? whatever that, well, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. Well, Paul also said that I. But it's better than the one you have now. I also said in First Corinthians, I went to a place in my, I'm not sure if I was in my

mind, out of my mind, I just, but I saw things too indescribable to talk to you about. Well, y'all can rebut. Do you want to rebutt my, you said, where's the verse? I don't, I think that's a, I have no rebuttal to that. I think you're exactly right. Because to your point, right before that. that in John 1336, Simon said, where are you going to set that up? We're not throwing those disciples onto the bus because we do the same thing.

Sure. Where and what? The human mind cannot contemplate what's in store. Which to my point, that's why we don't talk a lot about it because that's about all you can talk about. That's right. But, Al, there are churches pontificating on this at nauseam. Yeah, and that's all that.

And I mean, I've heard just this past Sunday, a guy got, it was not a church. but like we were together. Then we go out to our place because we had the thing. Yeah, honor. Yeah. And so Pete, well,

this guy gets up and starts pontificating on what heaven's going to be like. Well, the first problem that I had because I'm trying to be open mind and I'm trying to listen. But the first problem I had, he said,

I want to quote to you from Revelations. And I thought, oh boy. Because when I hear- Cudity added that S-O-M- When I hear the plural version, this is one of my pet pee's in a lot.

When I hear that plural version of revelations, because I always go over there and check and see if it's changed in 50 years. Because I'm looking, I'm saying, where, let me. No, there's no else. He says, this is the revelation of Jesus in the first three verses. It's his. It's not yours. it's not a revelation as part of the revelations that you're fixed to pontificate on what heaven is like, which is exactly what he did.

And I thought after this was over, after he finished, I thought, how would you ever prove that? I mean, it was stuff I had never heard before. What we're going to do, how long we're going to do it, who we're going to do it with, craziest stuff I've ever heard. And guess what, he may be right, but I don't think that's the point. Right. And we started this talking about the idea of being a great, great-grandfather, having generations go out, which is why when you read the Old Testament, you don't read much about the resurrection, heaven, any of that stuff is in the old. You don't even start reading about it until Jesus got here.

Very little, you know, prophetically about it. And the reason why is because in their minds, you lived through your progeny, you know, the idea you had sons that then had other sons. that then had other sons. So their whole system was built on that idea. And so that's how they imagined living on, which is why you read Abraham's story. It was so important to have an heir because he was like, I mean, God, you tell me he had all these blessings,

but I don't even have a son. How is this going to happen? He could have, he had hard time reasoning to that. So that's the idea now, but you come along in the first century, and you see the Sadducees and the Pharisees, but the two leading sects of leadership, only half of them believed in the, resurrection at all. So it was a fairly new thing for them. So what was ironic was that here comes

Jesus along. He's about to experience the resurrection for all eternity. So it's really interesting to me when you study that history of to see how easy it is to miss. But it's why you don't see much about heaven in the old testament. And I'm for imagining, you know, that verse says God do all we ask or imagine? The fact that he's spirit led to write that, it's okay to imagine. And I told you about that show I was watching. I mean, it's a world. production. They, they're taking the most remote sites, wilderness, and the animals, and the name the show is Eden. I think it's, it's coming from England. Right. And I like watching that, because I like seeing things without any human involvement or impairment whatsoever. It's

interesting. And I mean, they're trying to show it friendly, but it's basically the food chain. I mean, everything's chasing everything else. But they have a lot of interesting things. But so why, as a believer that this is the evidence that there's a God, you're looking at creation. They just found a place that we, we haven't done anything to. But I'm like, well, when I imagine where we're going to live or how long, if I see what he can do with just a ball in a, in a galaxy, in a universe that's so big, we're just looking at one little ball that we're on with all this detail.

So I let my mind imagine, oh, we're going to have a lot of fun and enjoyment and wow. Because just that power of being able to create all these things is the most amazing thing that I can even imagine. And I'm seeing it. That's hard to wrap my head around. So I'm sure, what, you don't? It's a big universe out there.

You don't think that if he's bigger than the universe, that we're not going to figure out a cool place to hang out what are you talking about it's not it's yeah you're right the the the wherever jesus is is where you find something good i just like that to wherever jesus is is is is the point yeah if you're there you made it you will be wild beyond your wildest dream and there's a certain amount of truth to your i like your analogy that when you go on a trip who you go with does make the trip. I mean, it is better than the destination because it's bad. My wife cannot stand when I asked the question because she's like,

you know, I'm thinking about going overseas and she was like, okay, you know, Greece, what do you think? Well, what do I say? I said, who's going? She said, me, is that enough? I was like, I want to know who else. Who is going? Because I'm basically on what I'm reading.

I gave her the sermon. She's like, I'll get a list. I'm like, get the list. I want to know who's going. It does matter. Blame Jesus. That's the way I'm looking at things. So a couple of things I want to mention here.

We're almost out of time. Oh, we almost out of time. We are almost out of time. So Lisa and I are going to be in Ocean City, New Jersey on August 28, 29. That's a Saturday and a Sunday at the Ocean City Tabernacle. I've never spoken in a place that called himself a tabernacle. I kind of like it. It's an old term from the Old Testament.

Ocean City Tabernacle. We're doing a marriage thing on the 28th, and then I'm preaching on the 29th, so you can check out their website to get details. But if you're in that area, I don't know. What's surprising to us, you know, we're down here in Westmanore, Louisiana, you know, you had to drive somewhere, like you think about going to Dow or something. It's a long trip. But up in the northeast, I mean, like, we're flying into Philadelphia to get to New Jersey.

In my mind, because, you know, we got to drive a while to get to another state down here. but they're just, you know, an hour and a half, you're wherever, you're in 10 different states. You need to give them the lesson we just gave. Because look, I looked up the definition of tabernacle, a fixed or movable habitation, typically of light construction. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's just a big tent. It's like a little house that people inhabit in.

Maybe it's a tent in Ocean City. I'm going to find out. So you need to go with the Hebrews 3-4. every house is built by someone, because we're talking about where in a place, but God is the builder of everything. And then he said, but you are his house because Christ lives in us.

And we are a tent, you know, we are temporary. We're only here for a while, and then we've got eternity. The last thing I want to mention is don't forget, we haven't mentioned this a while, your daily fill,

which is dad's devotion, 100 days of truth and freedom to heal America. So you get the Walmart only. So if you hadn't gotten that yet, out at Walmart. Jason, anything you need to announce? No, it's actually the innermost shrine. So make sure Jesus is at the center of your type. Well, he will be at the center of my talk.

I can guarantee you that. No, I've got to take a couple weeks off and rest up. So see where I'm at. We're trying to let you guys know when our appearances are. So anyway. I don't know is the answer. And thanks, by the way, all you are the sending in the names. You made my day.

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