Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 340 | Phil’s Neighbors Have a Run-In with the Law and Jase Tackles the Big Bang Theory

Episode Date: September 5, 2021

Phil’s neighbors have a run-in with law enforcement. Zach shares his thoughts on "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking. Jase and Zach discuss an alternative explanation for the big bang. And ...Jase explains the difference between the Spirit being in, on, or upon you and explores why the Gospels chronicle the same story from multiple points of view. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So when I rolled up, there was about three cop cars right next door. And then the lady came up to talk to you. What was the sheriff's department? It's not an unusual sight to see the police department of various sorts pull up in here. people down in this neighborhood if you know what I'm saying this was a somebody's trailer came off their truck sideswip somebody else why am i hearing larry the cable guy's voice in my head saying get her done yeah well i was here Jeff Jeff Foxworthy here's your sign yeah so what happened
Starting point is 00:00:54 anyway they're investigating the the people that had a hit and around on up the way, they just left the scene when the trailer house ran over somebody. They just got out in the ditch, got the trailer house tied back down to it. And they took off and they ended up right next door here. So it hits, so the trailer hit somebody like walking or what was? No, they were driving. So the trailer comes off off the truck, hits an oncoming vehicle who is our neighbor. That's the word I got.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And then they, while in all the commotion, hooked back up and leave they left the scene the ones that had the trailer how left the scene and showed up right next door here well what did the guys who got hit what did they did they say something to the guys they they basically called down this way said if you see a you know a pickup truck hauling a trailer a little small house trailer they need to they there's damage done their vehicle down yeah they just ran over so so it in so it ends up Next door. It's up next door, but we see laws coming at all hours of the night down there, even in the middle of the woods.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah. They're, you know, if we look at the inner city and say, well, it's a crime rate. He comes up and what's he saying? Well, you got to remember, you go from like local police departments in the smaller towns, suburbs of major cities. Once you move out to certain distances out of, off the beaten track and you get where they're just woods and and semi-paved roads, then the Matt Dillon, the Matt Dillon law enforcement kind of takes over. and it's a little different than police. Well, when they were coming out, they saw me coming,
Starting point is 00:03:05 but, you know, from a distance, facial profiling or whatever, they all slammed on the brakes, you know. They were looking and then somebody, I'm sure, said, oh, that's Jase. And so I went on. But for a moment there, I thought, well, I'm fixed to be late. Well, we drive up to the scene. I mean, when you're going this way and there's a hit-and-run type, the situation of wreck and you go on deeper this way the all these roads down here all of them
Starting point is 00:03:34 it has a sign up and it says dead end i said you're going to turn all signs have bullet holes in all signs are shot up with bullet holes a lot of bullet holes and a lot of signs but all the signs say dead end i don't think they're referring to you will die if you come down and here but it's just like you keep going on this road it's going to stop yeah and like i said you're yesterday the water fluctuation here in lieu of the storm that just hit i mean we have a 30-foot potential rise of the river every year yeah so we i monitor the flow of water very carefully i know exactly what it is literally well how many i back my my eyes up with with period periodical checks with with the computer crowd yeah i said was it was it was that computer say there was that computer say
Starting point is 00:04:26 the river is. How often is it wrong? They miss it some. They project a certain amount of rise. They miss it some. But overall, you can get a pretty good idea of where the river stage is right now. Because once that river gets, you know, you get a 15, 20 foot rise, well, it's not but a hundred yard from your house, but you're up on a little hill of sorts, a little higher ground than all the flood plain, but it would have been wiser to build your house a little further up if I had built it, but I didn't build it. Yeah, I just bought it. I have seen them say 100% chance of rain, currently rain, and I've looked outside and it's not raining. Yeah, we were we were sitting in Monroe and watchtall Pass above the hurricane and I mean it looks like directly I mean a little bit of
Starting point is 00:05:24 right or a little bit of left had great great impact on us oh it was coming right towards oh i know but it leaned a little east so it came up all that bobbled it came up the eye about 70 miles from us due east of us well that saved us and so our rain gauges we checked it it was a i monitored it through the whole time it was a lot of like a like a mist blowing mist yeah it was but the wind never We got over 20, 25 miles an hour. What was the rain gauge? Everything east of us were just being obliterated. Southeast of us were being literally leveled.
Starting point is 00:06:02 What was your rain gauge? I'm curious. The rain gauge yesterday morning at 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock when it was going on through New Orleans. My rain gate says one quarter of an inch. That's it? Quarter of an inch. I said, I hollered out loud and thinking, man. Was it a Jerry Clower?
Starting point is 00:06:21 It was a happy moment. Rick, it was more than Rick Flores. So I let it, the mist came and went all day and a little bit of, you know, wind, but not much. Nothing like, wasn't Sarah. It was one that some woman's name, the one that hit last year, two in a row, within two weeks. That second one is what blew down all of our trees over here, just leveled it. It was embedded tornadoes with 75 mile air wind. Now, that was a boogaroo.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Did you ever? We were waiting. I got a project over trying to make a duck hole, but. We were, it was holding, it's been holding us up for the last three days because we were expecting the potential of that river coming up. Remember, it fluctuates 30 feet on any given year. Did you ever listen to Jerry? 30 feet's a long way from ground zero. If you just look up in a tree and you see a watermark up there, you're like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:07:16 The watermarks on the trees tell you it's been that high, but the computer backs it up saying this could put 30 feet on you. Did you ever listen to Jerry Clower when you were younger? We listened to it. We thought he was the king, you know. Was he the, like the prank phone call? No, no, he would just, it's really how, well, he was talking about, you know, the stress of the redneck culture out here. Jerry Clower became North Louisiana's Elvis Presley. Well, but it was all in how he told us.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Like a comedian. media my favorite story ever told i mean i don't i hate to do this because i wasn't you know but i i remember him telling story and it's how he's telling it there's really when you get to the punch line some of them are funny but by the time you get to you don't care because he was inside the mind of the redneck crowd he was like there was this this guy in a band and he got mad about something and so and he was kind of a bully type you know and he was going around and just after the concert and he was just like, I think I can whoop you. Let me put you down on my list.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And he just kept going one right after another. He was just like, you know what? You're on the list. I can whip you. I'm pretty sure I can whip you. Yeah, Matt Dillon episode. So he finally, the drummer or something come up there and he's like, you know what? I think I can whip you.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You're going down the list with this old drummer. And I remember, I don't know exactly how he phrased it, he said, but that redneck carnal spirit hit him. And he was, his blood started bawling. So he grabbed the bully. The drummer grabbed the bully. And the bully stopped like, what are you doing? And the drummer said, I don't think you can whip me. And so the bully said, hang on, wait, whoa.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And he's like, for what? He said, let me get you off his list. you don't think that's funny it's that kind of because that's what everybody is down here it's like just like that I ran over you in a vehicle and I'm sure words were spoken
Starting point is 00:09:35 that's what I was wondering what was said when that happened I mean you know the fact alone that you've got a mobile home that gets loose from the truck in the mobile home There you go.
Starting point is 00:09:50 That's where, that's what he tapped into. He tapped into that. Yeah. Well, I pulled up, the other part that I saw besides the horde of cop cars was a pack of dogs. That's what, so we, so we stop because there's like six dogs in the road of all different breeds. But you got to remember. Now, that's not really this culture's fault. What people do from town is they drive down here thinking it's the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah. And they just let the dog. And they just run wild. Yeah, that's what happened. They just, they get rid of their pets. I had a pit bull. Somebody had let out and stayed at my place, bad breakfast. You know, people come in looking at the sunset,
Starting point is 00:10:34 and all of a sudden here comes a pit bull. Well, there was a pit bull today. There was some little dog that was like a, maybe like a Jack Russell. A lot of dogs and cats because people say, get rid of that cat, get rid of that dog. Well, they won't take them. They just drive out of the city. They have animal shelters. Now, those are townspeople doing that, which is just sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:55 It's terrible. But the cats, though, they serve a greater purpose because they do kill rats and rodents. I mean, I have a couple that stay up. But the pack of wild dogs is a little concerning. Dan says he has a faithful cat at all times. Some of them get killed. He sees them out on the road. Somebody ran over them.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah. He won't see that anymore. Give it two or three months. And he said, I look up. There's another cat. and no one can even touch those cats but Dan Dan puts a little food at them they'll climb a tree
Starting point is 00:11:27 and Dan will walk out there and put them a little food because the cat's up in a tree, he's hungry so Dan feeds them and so but Dan can touch them and pet them I like these cats that they have because they when they see you they run but they so you feed them a little bit they'll sneak up there
Starting point is 00:11:44 in the middle of the night but they also take care of all your pest problems Well, yeah, we rolled up. It was several cop cars, the trailer. There was a jet ski involved somewhere. There was a big fishing boat. Yeah. The dogs.
Starting point is 00:12:01 There was some people. I mean, it was. Your exact thought was, I need to get back to North Carolina. It's a pretty rough place out there. I was like, what's happening around here? Well, they need Jesus. Oh, I'm going to say. Well, let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:12:19 One of the deputies thanked us, by the way, for what we do, trying to help people so that they won't be called in. Yeah. And what will ensue is what you saw this morning. They're thinking, well, we appreciate what y'all do. You know, I said, well, we're trying to keep them from having to deal with y'all.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You know, like the guy told me, he said, and Robinson, I don't wanna hurt your feeling, but we've arrested about a third of your communication. And I said, well, that's why we're here. you try to lighten the load that you all have. Well, it's like when I did that prison ministry for a couple of years, you know, I kept trying to, I just focused on Jesus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You know, I focused on Jesus. But at some point during the two years, I noticed some John the Baptist started coming out in me. Yeah. You know, I started just like, well, you need Jesus. He can change your heart, you know. And then, but I got to the John the Baptist, stop breaking the law. You know, repent. Judgment is coming.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Because you couldn't help it because it was just the behavior and the heart was so carnal and dark. You were just trying to do anything to jar them, you know. What struck me last night, I just happened to notice this, or just to think of it, I mean, it's right in front of your face. The law came through Moses, Matthew 1, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Yeah. Then this statement, I mean, this is in John. I said Matthew. I'm reading the same account that we've been reading in Matthew.
Starting point is 00:13:55 John 1 says where it says grace and truth. That is John 1. That's right. But based on Matthew's recording, you know, this is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about. When John's talking about it, he says, no one has ever seen God. This is after he said God became flesh. and not based on natural, not children born of the purpose of God becoming flesh. Children born not of natural descent.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You know, yesterday we talked about it, the fertilization of the ovum and then the embryo. Nor of human decision, nope, they had nothing to do with this. Mankind had nothing to do with this. This is all coming from above. Are a husband's will, we need to have some children, but born of, God. Well, when you read statements like that, it forces you to come and a lot of people stop right there. Because with that little short sentence, God became flesh. No one's ever seen God. So you're wanting me to believe that God saved the human race, created male and female.
Starting point is 00:15:13 there's some kind of being out there somewhere that did all this. But God, the only son when Jesus shows up, who is at the father's side, has made him known. It's at this point, in my humble opinion. When you start dealing with the ideologies, the religious, the metaphysical world, Once you jump from physical, saltwater made us, yeah, that could have happened physically. Something in saltwater concocted a whole lot of cells.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And from saltwater, it generated an entire ecosystem of everything, including elephants, giraffes, monkeys, humans, fish. trees, grass, everything, started with salt water. And they won't go. They will not go or say there's something bigger that did all that. There's something bigger. Human beings can't make the cosmos. Didn't make it. We know that.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So we have a cosmos. We're looking at it. We're seeing how it works. So we come up with all these various laws, the laws of gravity, the law, second law. of thermodynamics, you know, it's winding down. We know that it's losing its strength. It's just a slow recession of the whole thing. So we have all these laws that govern all of it. But we're saying a certain segment of the population, we're not going metaphysical. We're not going
Starting point is 00:17:06 make that leap. Thomas Jefferson, I read his book. He said, the teachings of Jesus are the greatest teachings since mankind has been on the earth. This guy, Jesus, I have no disagreement with what he says. If everyone obeyed what he said, but when it came to, what about his resurrection after he died there, Mr. Jefferson, you recorded his death in your book, but I turned the next page waiting on the resurrection. Not in there. And now we run up on the metaphysical again. He says, no, he was so intellectually astute.
Starting point is 00:17:46 He just could not, with a clear conscience, lower himself and say, there's something, and he's alive. No one's ever seen him. He's an invisible, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God who's made it and did it all. and he becomes, through an astounding story, he becomes a human being. And children of God will be the result of his becoming flesh. He will produce by what he did on a cross and in the resurrection three-day later. He will create a family of people who are no longer.
Starting point is 00:18:34 physical beings, but metaphysical beings. There's power within them to raise them from the dead and give them immortality. So this is quite the, if Aristotle had known this, or Socrates or some of the other ones, just before Jesus showed up a few hundred years, they were all these philosophers. If any of them had known the story of Jesus, they would have had a much different view of the world. Now, they might have just stuck to their guns. You know, Aristotle was the one who kind of came closer. There's a spiritual nature in here. We're missing here.
Starting point is 00:19:11 There's a metaphysical element. We are not counting in there. So I don't know, guys. He called it the unmovable object Aristotle did. So I think he was getting close. Well, just by general revelation. Without the story of Jesus. Without the story of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Thomas Jefferson, brilliant, but missed it. And even in our own day, I read a book about 10 years ago, by Stephen Hawkin, who's the brilliant astrophysicist. I think he was at Cambridge, or I can't remember, he was brilliant. I read his book, Brief History of Time. And in that book, he essentially says that through scientific discovery, including his own contribution to physics, he said, we have, paraphrasing here, he said, we've determined that time has a beginning.
Starting point is 00:20:03 He said, if time has a beginning, he said, it's smacks of divine intervention. He said, so basically what we've proven through what he calls the standard model of physics is we've proven that God exists. And then he says this. I think this is so incredible. He says the Catholic Church endorsed their model. And he said, therefore, the goal of modern physics is to disprove what we've already proven because we know God can't exist. there you go which is that now
Starting point is 00:20:34 you are somewhat of a scholar because you said it better than I did I'm a redneck C plus man so I'm never going to rise too high in this metaphysical crowd I mean you know
Starting point is 00:20:48 I'm kind of just the miraculous all these events that happened I'm thinking man I said I just know this we didn't make it no we didn't make this the apparatus us we call the Cosmo. We didn't make it.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Mankind had nothing to do with it. I know that. And because they had nothing to do with it, I'm just watching whoever did make it. It hasn't been made by someone. They're saying, no, it just was a chance happening explosion. And all this design came out of that explosion. But every explosion I've ever seen didn't result in, you. unity and design and perfection and life. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Just think everything that happens in an explosion. That's the reason I have my Bible in front of me right now. The opposite occurs. You have chaos, disorder, death. They're like, no, it was a reverse explosion that triggered perfect harmony throughout all galaxies. But you got to keep in mind, though, the explosion, the explosion, the, what we called the Big Bang, that is the standard model of physics. This is why it's so interesting to me because Christians, we hear that.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Well, it might have been a God explosion. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what these guys have determined. The church is somehow we've equated Big Bang with atheism, and it's just not true. Oh, that's right. I agree. My college professors did not even offer me an opportunity to at least say, it is possible.
Starting point is 00:22:33 What I'm serious, being out there who made this whole thing and then the Bible. I mean, they, they presented their information about the Big Bang. They presented it as fact. And then they left out, Jesus 100% left him out.
Starting point is 00:22:48 But my point is, is Hawking, along with Einstein and Edmund Hubble and whoever else, there was some physicists involved in this, when they discovered, or if you want to call it that, when they came up with the Big Bang theory, this is how unavoidable God is.
Starting point is 00:23:07 They're looking at their own theory of the Big Bang model, and essentially what he's saying in the book is, the Big Bang proves the existence of God. That's what he's saying in the book. That's why physicists now, they're trying to get into string theory and oscillating universes and all this other stuff, because this is why I think that God's existence is,
Starting point is 00:23:30 in philosophical terms, it's called he's a necessary being. He's not contingent on anything. He has to exist. So you can't really avoid him. Even if you prove that God doesn't exist, you're using rational faculties and things of the spiritual world
Starting point is 00:23:45 to prove that the spiritual world doesn't exist. That's why I brought up yesterday and for nothing is impossible. When he's talking to Elizabeth, Mary, the mother, one to be born, will be called the son of God. Yeah. Even Elizabeth,
Starting point is 00:24:00 relative. Now look, she's over the hill and childbearing age. She doesn't become an old woman will have a child in her old age. And she was, she who was said to be barren that she's out because she's an old woman for crying out loud. Well, we're back in this metaphysical thing in her six months. She's six months pregnant right now. But then he does say, far, nothing is impossible with God. That's what you're saying. But just think about this, Phil. Well, Zachari, where this all started? Zacharii and Elizabeth, I mean, they're devout, ritualistic, which is fine back then, because that's all you had. People are God, so they're having a little prayer meeting. By the way, Zachariah was shut up and couldn't speak because he said.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That's what I was getting to. Because he said, this is hard to believe. But he had the prayer, and then the angel appears to him and says, standing at, you know, the side of where they're burning incense and praying. and Elizabeth Barron and what Zacharite says was startled and gripped with fear. But the angel said, don't be afraid. Your prayer has been heard, which is a scary thought because it's like, there's a difference in praying and then praying like it's really going to happen. So now the angel's like, well, you prayed and here I am.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So then. I'm answering your prayer. Well, and here's the answer to the prayer. your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son. You're to give him John, give him the name John. He will be a joy and a delight to you. Many will rejoice because of his birth. He will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, which is, you know, I think coming from this idea of this being a Nazarene that we left off last time. Yeah. And he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from birth, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Boy, there is a. under the influence of the Holy Spirit from birth. Many of the people of Israel will bring back to the Lord, will he bring back to the Lord, their God, and he will go on before the Lord and the Spirit and the power of Elijah. And, you know, all this is awesome. But Zachary said, so he's already prayed without the confidence that this actually may happen.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Let's take a quick break, guys. Then he says, well, how can this be? I'm an old man and my wife is well along in years. And so the angel said, I'm Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God. And I've been sent to speak to you and tell you this good news. And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happened. I'm thinking to shut your own trap.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So I think what's funny about this is so then when they, you get later on in the story, you remember this. So they're like, well, the baby's coming along. He's just sitting there not able to speak now for months. And they see it unfold. Yeah, and they say, well, what are you going to name the baby? Let's name the baby. They were asking, let's name the baby. I think this is in the next chapter or so later in chapter one.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And she said, I think I'm going to name him John. and so they're like well Zachara but you know people are like well I thought we were going to name him after Zachari what are you John well what's funny is they give him a tablet because he can't speak and they're like what do you want to name the baby you're going to name after you because Elizabeth said John so he said he kept making signs to him like well like well then they give him a tablet and so then he writes down john I think at this point he's humble and he's like, don't name after me. I didn't mess up twice.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I can't even talk. Whatever she says, that's what we're doing. Well, so when you move into Matthew chapter 3, verse 13. So what you're trying to say, righteous men, good men, along with the unbelievers, sometimes we have problems, Jays, believing what God said. Well, especially when it comes to the metaphysical. That is right. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That's what I was getting at. Even us, it's always been tough. We're like, we'll have a discussion or even an argument with an atheist, but then we'll pray and would be shocked if Gabriel showed up and said, okay, that last prayer, here's how this is going to go down. Well, would you be gripped with fear? And would you be second guessing? Probably so.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yep. especially when there seems like there's no path. Well, because you're losing power, at least you think you are. Phil, when you mentioned the birth, you went into the whole exposition on the birth being born of the spirit. And the Holy Spirit's role in the birth of Jesus. Yep. So then when we get to John, or Matthew 313, and we see baptism, what Jesus getting baptized,
Starting point is 00:29:26 guess who you see again, the Holy Spirit show up. Then Jesus from Galilee, this was verse 13, then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. Yep. But John tried to deter him, saying, I didn't even be baptized by you. And do you come to me? Jesus replied, let it be so now. It is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness. Then John consented.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Look at this part. As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. And at that moment, heaven was open, and he saw the Spirit of God, descendant. on him like a dove, a voice from heaven saying, this is my son, whom I love and whom I'm well pleased. So you see all three members of the Trinity here. You see the father. And look, that's before he was tempted and no miracles were performed until this event happened. Not one.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So even in the birth, so you see the in the birth? That's why when you get right down to it, you say the metaphysical world is where most of them stumble or stop. it's it's it's when you begin to speak of these matters that's when most of the human race yeah for whatever reason they're looking at it saying it's it demands faith on my part to believe that he is yeah god is and god has become flesh and god has removed my sin by shedding his blood on the cross and god will raise me he's given me immortality it's just hard for him to make that step right there. It was difficult, even back when it all went down.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Oh, sure. It's still difficult. But that's why I think we tie all this together, because a lot of people are asking questions about the difference between the spirit being in you, on you, or, you know, what did it say about John the Baptist? It said, upon or under the influence, you know, of the spirit. This is the only place I've ever read where he's. was filled with the spirit from birth.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah, filled with the spirit. That's what I... So, which kind of gives... It's like that verse in Ephesians 5 where it says, be filled with the spirit. Well, you already have the spirit. So what does it mean to be filled with the spirit? So somebody defined it like under the influence
Starting point is 00:31:42 because it's like he then says, don't get drunk on wine, but sing, make music in your heart, sing psalms, hymns, and spirits. spiritual songs as yeah so plus the bible screams out jays why you're there screams out this is a metaphysical world you need to believe in it that's what it says over and over what i was getting at though was that john the baptist who was under the influence of the spirit from his mother's wound you know one translation says from his mother's womb yep which i think is why he was leaping in the womb yeah
Starting point is 00:32:21 which goes to that under the end. Elizabeth said he jumped when the information came to. He was participating in contemporary worship at the earliest age possible. He was hand-racing. He was dancing and jumped. So when I see people do that, it makes people feel uncomfortable. And I'm like, I would rather be people doing that than actually drunk on some kind of chemical or. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 and staggering around trying to find their car keys. Yeah, well, Axe too. They thought they were drunk. Same thing. They said they're drunk. He's like, no, it's nine in the morning. That's exactly where I was going with the Ephesians 5 and the phraseology. I mean, it's good if you, I did this one time.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I made a list of everywhere where the spirit is in you, where it is on you, in the Bible, and where it was, what was the one we were just talking about? filled with. Yeah, filled with. And there's a few others. Well, there's terms like you can quench the spirit. As a believer, the Holy Spirit lives in you. The most exhaustive text on the Spirit is probably John 14 through John 17.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Right. But what I was going to say is, and people say, well, what's the difference? Where's the big difference? There's a big difference in the milk. If you took some milk and you drank it. and I think that's there's a verse about giving us the spirit to drink that's in 1st Corinthians soil. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Well, there's a difference. Which is all a good, all these things are good, but there's a difference in it being the milk being on you and in you. It has different circumstances and effects. So I just think it's interesting if you want to do that. What I was going to say is, well, they introduced the kingdom, and we read that in Matthew 3-1, John DeBavis said, repent for the kingdom is near. And we made a big deal of that a couple of podcasts ago.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Then Jesus, in chapter 4 and 17, says the same thing. Then you have this act here where the Holy Spirit descends on him, and he begins his ministry. So when you get to Peter having the keys to the kingdom, which we read in, or we will read in Matthew 16, and this spirit is poured out, which they thought they were drunk, all these things are happening. You have miracle, signs, and wonders going on. They're speaking an ever-known language of the world. And Peter declares Jesus as the Son of God, and he goes through what he did,
Starting point is 00:34:58 on his death, his burial, resurrection, who he was, and their sin that caused it. He then said, he's Lord in Christ, and the people heard it. They were cut to the heart. Then he said, repent and be baptized. and then it says, you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Well, to me, that statement, you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. That's got to be the greatest statement in that whole thing as far as how response and how you're involved in this.
Starting point is 00:35:30 It's like, well, wait a minute. Because it takes you back. The physical does not rule. The metaphysical does. That's the point. It takes you back to this moment where he receives the Spirit and there's a declaration made, which is the point where I'm getting at, which is God saying,
Starting point is 00:35:46 because really in our culture, it's more noticeable now than I've ever seen in my lifetime, is we have this identity crisis in our culture. I'm not sure if I'm a man, I'm a woman, who I am, where I'm from. Well, us, we believe we came from God on purpose. Yep. And so I know when I heard what Jesus did for me, and I surrendered, and I'm receiving God's spirit,
Starting point is 00:36:15 I really believe that God made that same declaration about me. This is my son. I love him, and I'm pleased that he's doing this. Good point. Here's my spirit. Now, Jesus was perfect, and I'm not, but God made me perfect, or his spirit wouldn't be entering me. He's pleased with you because of the finished work of Christ on you.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Exactly. So the father, I love this passage because you see all three members of the Trinity. You see the father, you see the son, and you see the spirit. And it's indicative of our own salvation that the father plans it, the son accomplishes it. And then the spirit applies it. And so you see this being played out over and over and over again, but it's first instituted right here. By the way, that clears up that text in 1 John, Jace, where it said he came here, you know, by the spirit, by water,
Starting point is 00:37:17 blood, blood, spirit, and water. Yeah, are the three things that got in here. Well, I think that makes a good point, though. It's not, because I think that's where people misunderstand this. He's not pleased with you because of something you're doing, actually, because actually you're, like, if you go up from Colossians 2, you're being crucified with Christ.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yes. So you're, you've been cut to the heart as they were in Acts 2 on who God is through Jesus, which is something that's made God known. And it's the greatest love story ever. So now you're coming on your knees in the most humble form that you know how to do, saying, you know what, I'm done. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:05 With getting up and thinking this is my life and I'm done. I'm dying. and so, you know, all forms of counseling in our world, even outside of Jesus, they try to get you to go through some kind of death where you can start over. That's the way they think. You've got to... Even alcoholic anonymous put it in their deal. You know, you just believe in something bigger than you.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Well, yeah, and then you got to bury this. But they don't go through the name. You got to die and you got to be buried. I mean, just look at all of it. And you start over. But it's because that's the only one. way, which is what baffles me about our society, is that even in the movie world and the drama, they use these same principles for movie making.
Starting point is 00:38:54 But they leave out, they do live out one component because most of them, there is a rebirth, but the rebirth is a second chance. The gospel doesn't give you a second chance because you need more than that, right? It's a third chance, a fourth chance. That's why I love that passage is at first or second Peter when he says the, the waters of the days of Noah symbolizes the waters of baptism, which now saves you also. But he says it's not the removal of dirt from the flesh, not the water,
Starting point is 00:39:21 but it's a pledge of a good conscience towards God that saves you by the resurrection. And I was thinking about this guy that was in our college ministry, who was a recovering heroin addict, and he had been walking with us probably about almost a year, probably 10 months. He said, man, he said, I said, you ever been baptized? He said, no, no, I'm going to do it there. And I said, when are you going to do it? He said, I'm going to wait a year.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I need to wait a year, I need to be sober for a year, and then I'm going to get baptized. And so why would you do that? He said, because I want to make sure I could stick with this. He said, Zach, you got to understand. He said, everything I've ever touched turns to dirt. This guy's name was also Zach.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And I said, Zach, do you know what I would do if everything I touch turned to dirt? He said, what? I said, I'd quit touching stuff. And he's like, I said, do you know how you can quit touching stuff? He said, no, I don't. I said, you got to die. You got to be born. you've got to be buried with Christ.
Starting point is 00:40:12 The old Zach, when he touches stuff, it turns to dirt. That guy doesn't need to touch anything. So you get connected with Christ, and that's what baptism symbolizes, and you're connected with his death and his burial. And when Peter says it saves you by the resurrection, and it's a pledge of a good conscience towards God, it's because I can't go to God with my own ability and say, hey, God, I'm clean now, God's and said, no, you're not. What about that?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I'm like, ooh, yeah, I forgot about that part. But I can pledge a good conscience towards God if I'm connected with. him. Yeah, well, why would you try to get better without the Holy Spirit? You can't. I told I said, you don't get better to come to Christ. I said, you don't get better to come to Christ. You come to Christ to get better. You know, you don't get it right to come to Christ. You're never going to get it right. You'll never get it. You're not even going to get it right after you receive God's Spirit, but at least you now have. That's why it's called grace. Yeah, a foundation to say, you know, it's kind of like when you say repent, you do it once where you change your mind,
Starting point is 00:41:14 you change your heart, you change your direction, but you act it out every day. It's like every day you're going through that process. Well, Romans 6 is not. You prove your repentance to the Apostle. Yeah, that was a good verse that you read because it's basically that you just watch me. Yeah. Because you're now seeing a different being inside of us, which is why. the kingdom is the most powerful force on earth it's it's a secret it's an unseen presence yeah
Starting point is 00:41:44 of transformation that's happened hold on let's say one one last break uh i will add to that i'll mention it i think when he had some notes on this but in the in the gospel of matthew the kingdom of god is mentioned 53 times wow 53 times the kingdom of God, the kingdom of heaven. 53. I counted them yesterday. And most of it, all of it, Luke gives a long list of how many places it's mentioned,
Starting point is 00:42:22 Mark 2, but over 100, over 115, 120 in the Gospels, the kingdom is brought up. For someone to say, well, you know, that's fixing to happen here thousands of years from now, way in the future. Well, but I explain, I think the last time we talked, I don't beat people up for that because I do think there's another phase
Starting point is 00:42:43 that like Romans 8 refers to or whatever where you're, you know, our next move when we die will be a big transition. You know, when our, when Jesus comes back,
Starting point is 00:42:58 because I think time will kind of, you'll kind of lose track of time once you die. It's called the eternal kingdom when that comes about. Well, right. And you're then, you have this new imperishable, body, okay, that's a different phase of what happens. But I think the people who only focus on how that goes down, they miss what we're doing here now. That's why I usually ask people who
Starting point is 00:43:25 misunderstand that. I'm like, well, how come there's no urgency from you to share Jesus with other people? Because people who are just waiting for something else to happen at the end, They're like, well, I'm going to get all that straight when Jesus comes back. I'm like, what are we doing here now? Yeah, that's the point. I mean, God uses us. The kingdom is moving, right? It's a movement.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Well, it leads you to believe. Because it leads you to see God in this distant way. Like, has God even care what goes on here on planet Earth? Is he even listening? You're not going to pray because you're going to think, what does it matter? God is intimately involved in what we're doing here. If something they repeatedly said is near the kingdom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And it said over 100 times in the Gospels, I would think that's fixed to go down for what he was talking about. But he said it was near. This was 2,000 years ago, roughly. That's my point. So, well, yeah, we believe that it came in their lifetime, which is, where was that verse where he said, Mark 9-1. But my point is...
Starting point is 00:44:30 You'll see it before you die is what he was telling them. I think what's interesting about this is I heard somebody say this one time that you got Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John that give four views of the same message. They all are in the same way.
Starting point is 00:44:47 That's right. I mean, Jesus is eventually going to be arrested, die, be bearing ray. But I heard somebody say one time, it's like Matthew is a documentary, which I agree with that. Because even in the second chapter, when you had the version, like, after the birth,
Starting point is 00:45:02 I guess when Jesus was like, in his first year or year two. It's like almost without emotion. I mean, he's talking about Herod, killing all the babies, and he's just giving you the facts, but it's like, oh, I mean, it's rough. And even John the Baptist here, I mean, he's throwing haymakers in his, in his sermons. I mean, there's a little humor. We didn't mention this, but in chapter three in verse eight, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:30 when he said, produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And I think this is a joke in verse 9, and I think it's kind of funny. But he says, and do not think you can say to yourselves, we have Abraham as our father. I tell you that out of these stones, God can raise up children for Abraham, which is, you know, the preacher joke. That could have been the first rock concert. Yeah. But he was, you know, he was showing you this side of John. Well, then you got Luke, or.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Mark is like an action movie so it was Matthew the documentary mark was the action movie Luke was a sci-fi because he really goes into detail about all you know remember when he said the doors were locked and boom he's there and then John is like the love story and so when I heard that I thought you know God not only inspired these men through the Holy Spirit to make him known But he did it from four different perspectives because we all have different personalities and we all have different ways of telling a story that we like. So it wasn't even in that, to me, shows God's providence. It's like he's almost appealing to the different personalities that are on the earth.
Starting point is 00:46:55 John is one of his beloved friends. It was interesting to me that the kingdom has brought up 53 times. I'm looking at it over here now in Matthew. It was brought up 19 times in Mark. It was brought up 43 times in Luke. Interestingly, John spoke the least about it. However, when he did bring it up, John 3.3, unless the man is born again, he can't enter the kingdom of God.
Starting point is 00:47:27 But you know what's interesting too, Phil? Say what? How am I going to get back inside my mom? brother, what are you talking about? Physical. He's thinking physical. They all did. Then so John recorded Jesus as saying, unless you're born again of water and the
Starting point is 00:47:44 spirit, you can't enter the kingdom of God. Two ways you can miss it if you're not born again of water and the spirit. Well, but Phil, in verse three, he said you can't see it. Can't even see it. Well, unless you're born again, which I think goes in when he said, Jesus said the coming of the kingdom does not come visibly. Normal people say, here it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:48:07 So he said, what does that mean? Well, then he told Nicodamus, you can't see it unless you're born again. And he's like, well, what does that mean? How can I get back in my mother's womb? Well, you can't enter it unless you're born of water and the spirit. Yeah. Well, then he started talking about the spirit and a wind. It's like the wind.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Well, you can't see the wind, just the effects. Yep. So then he mentioned it again, John, just four times. Twice 3-3, John 3-3, John 3-5. Then he gets to 1836. Now my kingdom is from another place. It's not physical. It's not here.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I mean, it's the people out here running around. You would never recognize you want to be able to see them. They can be members of the kingdom. You wouldn't even know it. Yeah. Unless you watch what they do and how they love one. another. But so 1836, he says again, my kingdom is not of this world. It's a spiritual kingdom. And it's in the hearts of people. Well, thank the Lord. It's not of this world. Oh, what are you talking
Starting point is 00:49:14 about? All these kingdoms, every one of them, I've got a list of them. It's over 100. They go down. They go down. But this one, Daniel said it best, it'll last forever and will never be destroyed. And that's what Jesus was saying, along with John. So the four times it's mentioned in the book of John, they're dougies. Just read John's view of the kingdom of God, and if you have a move now, you'll move when you read that. So put your faith in the king of a kingdom that can't be shaken nor destroyed. Government's come and go, but the problem with government's man-made constructs they can't remove your sin and they can't raise you from the dead. That's a big two problem. to have. And don't be surprised when God answers your prayer.
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