Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 342 | Phil Gets a Priceless Gift in the Mail & How Jase Really Feels About Chick-fil-A

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

Jase and Al share their opinions on Chick-fil-A. Phil believes a miracle happened after he received a special gift from a listener. Two terrifying things happen to Jase right before recording the podcast. Phil and Al discuss the decades of Jesus' life that aren’t chronicled in the Bible. Phil looks at the story of Jesus through the eyes of Mary. And Jase explores what happened to people who questioned Jesus’ authority. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Well, I'm back in the lair. I was traveling up in New Jersey and Michigan the last time y'all were down here. And some really good experiences. I found out some things. You just kind of get in your mind. You think New Jersey. Did you miss the floods? You're so far away from your mind. I thought you were in a cave. with us in there, talking. So did you miss the floods out when you were in?

Yeah, I missed a hurricane, but. No, I'm talking about there was a, but. Yeah, that happened.

The same hurricane that came through Louisiana, which you got downgraded, tropical storm in it, but it spawned tornadoes up in New Jersey. Even before, as the hurricane is hitting Louisiana, hitting the coast, wiping out Grand Isle,

there was a, I mean, a monsoon. I'm preaching. I'm literally preaching up a storm, and I'm looking out. sign. I thought, good grief. Is the hurricane hitting here? I mean, just water.

We go back to the hotel, though it's knee deep in the street, because the tide was up, we were sitting right there on the Jersey shore. And I mean, I'm wading knee-deep water from the car to the hotel. I was like, I felt like Jonah. You know, it was like, how do you get away? That's why I asked you because

it was a lot. Yeah, it was a lot. And then, about three days later, Ada comes through and they get a whole another round of flood. But luckily by then, Lisa and I were off. Ada or Ida? Was Ida? Yeah, Ada. I thought you had already made the Cajun accent.

That's probably how they said it. You're right. I was thinking Ada, Oklahoma, which is where you and mom got married. No, that was Ida Bell. Ida Bell. Ida. Okay. You got Ada on the brain.

I don't see Ada involved in anything. Ada didn't exist. No idea. I don't. IDA. That's where Ms. Kay, the town of Ida. There's a town name.

It's hard to sell. I was on vacation because I was working, but I wasn't here. To me, you got to remember what people don't realize who do not live in Louisiana. When you hear your buddy or in this case your brother say something that you have no idea what he's talking about. But you just don't stop him and say because I just figured that was some new way to say it. Because that happens a lot in this culture. It does. It does.

So, Jay, as I was stopping by for the morning chickfil-A, which is what gets our podcast, has started here for mainly you and dad but there's a woman the woman the young woman that was uh taking my order because you know they'd take it outside and um she said she asked for my name and i told her so i'd give her to the order and she says are you al robertson i was like yeah that's what's left of it you know and she said i recognize you from your voice and she goes to christchurch and she said uh i just wanted to tell you how inspirational your family is and i listen to your podcast and you know just this old conversation, I was like, man, that's why I like Chick-fil-A. You got the people that wait on you, you know, they also listen to the podcast.

I like Chick-fil-A because they had a novel idea. Let's just be kind and courteous to people who are giving us their money. Gee, Bob, that may work. And they make a pretty decent chicken sandwich. But it makes the other fast food places look terrible when you pull up there, and they go, here. Oh, it just burns me up. I don't go to them anymore. It's hard.

A drive-through. You're talking about being in particular at an arena that I never go to. Well, I know. But every once a while. I don't drive up for a quick stop and order chicken. I don't read it. But at once in a while, you're hungry. And you find yourself.

Well, I drive through for the, I take one for the team. I drive through for y'all. So it's a little bit of a felt like a little fall yesterday. I get up yesterday morning. It's Labor Day. And, man, just a beautiful day. Which brings me to... Humidity down.

Which brings me to one Austin Campbell. Uh-oh. Austin, wherever you are. Let's see. Tallahassee, Florida. Tallahassee, Florida, the capital of Florida. When they introduced me into the... Inducted me into the Louisiana Hall of Fame.

They said, we need some attire that you would normally wear, you know. There's a mannequin dress like that. So they got a mannequin. The mannequin. it wasn't very lifelike. I looked at that dude and I'm thinking, ooh, he's a mild nutrition. I mean, he had a little skinny-looking face,

but I said, oh, well. But they had my clothes on him. And Austin Campbell, when I gave that shirt up, I had done some patching on it through the years. It's 30 years old. I wore it 25, 30 years. I don't forget how long, but without. I was really happy about that shirt no longer being with us.

to all you women out there, it was a shirt that was never washed. Ever. I just hung it up to air dry. We're losing you today on your mic. This came in the mail this morning from Austin Campbell. He's a long-time listener of ours. He said, you donated your favorite hunting shirt to a museum, which is true. I just mentioned it.

But somewhere he rustle up in his closet, I guess, and he came up with the same exact shirt. It's brand new. Which I thought it was almost, it was my first side. The only thing I could compare it to is the resurrection. So this thing came out of nowhere via Austin Campbell. I appreciate it, dude. I told them to send you a duck call.

I'll sign it for you to ease the pain a little bit. I don't forget what these things cost. But this shirt. Evidently is priceless. You wear this. You wear this. you never get cold. I know.

Ever. The smell had gotten to a point to where when that was, I think that came from Martin. It was his scheme. He was like, how can we get rid of that shirt? The shirt is not a sponsor shirt. So I think that Martin had the idea of saying, look, let's donate it to the Hall of Fame because then he won't say no because he's in a sticky spot there. Granted, after 30 years and you don't wash clothing, all I would say is, the way.

worse can happen out of it is it is a little mustiness about it i got that box jess i was sending it to a woman in new orleans to you know fix up the little alcove or dad's stuff is in the museum and i opened that box up and i thought who because i mean it was literally right after season and it was like i developed a bitterness i was so happy and that's why this is i don't know how to feel about it's the resurrection i am i will i will be nighed be great. It's got it cooling down even in Louisiana now. We're about, we're in the September. Another three or four weeks

to be cool at night. Yep. And we jump in on the old four wheel. It was 63 last night. And heading toward the duck hole, I'll have my old shirt back with me. Well, I took my first trip on the scout today to see where we're at in the developments of the duck hole.

And two. Stones kind of, he's now, you know, the main, what would you call him? The land manager. The land manager. Most of it's in his head. But, I mean, that's all right. He's a good worker. He's a good worker.

We need him. And so while I went, he's, he's, because you, down here, you think it's easy just to till and plant and, but down here's so volatile. So wet and you got beavers. And so it's just not easy growing grass that ducks like to eat. Right. It's too low of ground to farm. Yeah, it is.

But so we try and do our best. So he showed me the, you know, kind of where we're at. But two terrifying things happened today, which it was cooler, which I thought was nice. And you wouldn't think what I'm fixed to tell you what happened. But it did. So we get in the rig, we take off, we looked at the first place, which we called the dog, affectionately, because the name of the bayou is called Dog Bayou. I don't know why they name it.

But when we're shooting ducks, we say the dog is barking today. So we're going on one of the main roads. And, you know, we're not going fast because it's every 20 feet, there's some kind of mud hole. And it hasn't rained here in how long since the hurricane. Yeah. And so it's been quite a few days, but there's still some bad mud holes here and there. So we go down into a mud hole and I look to my right because I'm, I saw something move.

And some of the rigs have doors in the, in the rigs, and some do not. But I had one of those, go, go. Because there was a three foot, no embellishment, three foot cotton mouth on the side. So most of the roads have, you can tell where the tires go. And we're like, we're the mud. Ruts. We're in, yeah, the right. The right rut right above it was a little mound of dirt, and this three-foot cotton mouth was called up there.

Which puts him in pretty close proximity to your jaws. I would say two to three feet and inches from the door, but when we hit the hole... And he's mad. Look, his head, no embellishment, came up like a cobra. He just reared up. And that's when I went, go, go. My voice actually wouldn't work. And Jay thought I was saying, no, no.

And I said, Congo, Congo. And he looked back and he was still rared up. Like a cobra, I've never seen one do that. And so I was like, gun, gun. Only the big ones do that. Yeah. That's why I said earlier. Son, you need to get out of town.

You're spending too much time. I mean, look, Phil, when you're inches away from a cotton mouth, it's never a good feeling. And I didn't know that door was there because I was just like, I was flinching as in, don't bite me, don't make,

because I saw that head come back. But I had to admit, Jay Stone, military training, freehanded with a pistol, first shot, you know, he's got his head rare it up.

Payout, incredible. Took his head off. It didn't take his head off, but he hit him. Yeah. and addled him into circles, which then produced the rest of the clip in a rapid succession and ended it.

You meant to kill him. Oh, he's dead. I actually used the outlawed Josie Wells, which is a prerequisite to watching this, the TV version. I said, oh, he's dead all right. I don't know what that's funny. So the other terrifying moment, that was by far the most terrifying. but because I felt like the only thing I had in between me and death today was a flimony door plastic door you know.

He's spent too many days in the subdivision now. Yeah, he's lost his age. I've been over that land for 30, 40 years. I've only had a couple other times where I was in that proximity to a cotton mouth snake that's mad. Yeah. I mean, he was riled. Loaves.

Yeah. Well, most of, you know, most snakes run. They hear something coming, but their first impression is to, you know, to kill you. Yeah. And so I'd say he rared up on the wheeler. The second thing, because y'all had done a project where you move the dump, what we call the dump or the levee structure to put a new, a couple new holes with water on it.

Yep. Y'all had, it is a long story project, but, and I loved it, everything about it until I came up on where they got the dirt. And most people, you know, they scrape down the dirt. Phil and his posse, they just dug a hole to the earth's core. You're talking about a bottomless pit. Don't we pull up there and look. It'll be a little pond with cypress trees growing around it before it's over.

And I'll make that place look at it. It'll be a beautiful thing to walk up on. Granted, you don't want to be trying to drive through it with the four-wheeler. It's too deep. Well, the last time something like this happened, which was a much smaller version, and they built a little dump somewhere, but they didn't tell me they built it. And so I'm driving through.

I don't forget what I was doing, but I was out and about. Because once the water floods, which it's going to flood, you don't know exactly where you're at any time. Exactly. You're in the general vicinity. And the next thing I know, as I'm riding along,

is a full-wheeler is on top of me, and I got my gun trying to find the bottom. Because I have hit this hole and it just flipped. It immediately flipped. It was a small hole. We just got a little dirt. But the bottom line is where the one you're talking about is, the hole you saw that we just did, it was already a deep ditch.

It was a deep ditch cut by the water eons ago. So we're just down inside that ditch, which makes it look like a, but it's just a hole in it. And it's already a ditch. I'm just saying, if you happen to hit that hole, and you don't know it's there. You have a zero percent chance of surviving. You just jump off the four-way to swim to the bank.

It ain't about 20 foot. I love that every scenario, for Jay's dad, is a worst-case scenario. It's death and mayhem. Yeah. It's when the subdivision meets your roots. Yeah. You know, you're like, boy, this country is down in here. The Bible is on my side.

Where's that verse? Oh, here it is, Jay. I return to it. Proverbs 26. Listen to this carefully, Phil. Proverbs, let's take a break for I read it. Proverbs 26, 27. If a man digs a pit, he will fall into it.

If a man rolls a stone, it will roll back on him. Yep. Okay. He's just saying, gravity still exists. And, you know, I mean, he didn't mean somebody went out there and dug on. hole then he literally fell in it he's saying his lifestyle you're you're digging a hole in the ground you remember the first time i ever heard this verse was on k-noe news uh alton how everybody knows what that is well it's our local news yeah so uh cori's grandfather was running Howard brother stores

and there was an over-aggressive DA that didn't like him for whatever reason he gets after him because Alton's brother was the mayor, so I'm sure there's a lot of political, and says they owe a bunch of money. And so they did a big audit. Well, it turns out they were owed about 200 grand. They had overpaid. And so when Alton had a press conference,

I'll never forget it. I mean, I was just a kid. This was in the 70s. And on the local TV, he read that verse. Because they said, what do you have to say to Mr. Parkinson? He said, I got one thing to say. Proverbs 26, 27. If a man digs a hole, he will fall there in.

If he rolls a stone, it will roll back on it. As a Christian, you were like, yes. I mean, it was like, you know, because they were after him, you know. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. It was pretty impressive. It was first time I ever heard that first. Well, with where we're at in Matthew, what happened to me with a snake and a pit, I couldn't help but think of the spiritual ramification.

Of course you could. Well, I'm saying, I think Jesus taught me. Well, he was more concerned about the spiritual than the physical. That's obvious. But I thought a bumper sticker statement because while you were gone, we went from the water to the wilderness. When was the last time you were here? Yeah, the last time I was here we were doing the genealogy. Yeah, we met John to Baptist.

Well, we actually went Matthew 2. Yeah. And then the birth of Jesus and all the challenges that was. Zach, was he a good quarterback? right? He filled my seat well. Yeah, he did well. Yeah. Excellent. We're bringing him alone. I mean, I've slept since then, so I really don't remember what we talked about.

But I know where... Zach's really smart. He's smarter than all of us. He is smart. So, but what I thought, because we, the last time we were together, we talked about the temptation of Jesus. Which I hated, I missed that because I love that text. It was awesome. It was such a rich. But I thought this last verse, to me, is like a bumper.

which it never gets any uh gets any fanfare but you know if you made this statement where it says in matthew four 11 then the devil left him and angels came and attended him i mean i just think that no matter what happens and and the more you read especially early on there's definitely spiritual warfare that's going on and nothing has changed yeah from then until now. Right. And so we made the point, you know, kind of at our baptism, you have this moment where, yes, God declares us reborn, son of God, daughter of God. And then you have God's spirit.

And we know what's coming. Right. Temptation is that you're right? That's me. Yeah, temptation. He's going to tempt you. Because I think the evil one wants you to either follow him or at least shut up. And I thought it's interesting, and I don't feel I brought this up, that every aspect of what kind of what we would consider the main parts of the gospel story or Jesus's story, him coming to earth when he was on the cross, when he came out of the tomb, when he went back to the right hand of the father, and also when he comes back for us, angels are present every time.

And then they were also present here, you know, after this, the spirit. spiritual test, you know, that he got from the evil one. So I thought that was interesting that he comes from that other realm. And every time when Jesus was here, and he was only here 33 years, every time there was something major that was going to affect all of us, angels came and were part of that. Remember because the guy sitting on top of the tomb? So I always thought that was really interesting their interaction, which is kind of what you're talking about, Jay. Because it's a spiritual warfare. I mean, there are things, you know, we know from Ephesians 6 that are outside of our ability to even see or really experience.

experience, you know. Yeah, I had that written now. So if you're staying with us, I mean, you think about Jesus's birth, here's God coming from a virgin, you know, we went through that. We didn't really talk about a lot about his quiet life up until then, but I think it says something about his humility, even in that, is that he spent 30 years just being a guy. Right, right.

I mean, he's 30 now, and there's maybe one thing. about when he was 12 and he got lost. Is there anything else from his birth to 30? Nothing. Nothing recorded. Don't you find that strange? Yeah. Which lets you know that that wasn't relevant or it would be in there.

I mean, the only one little thing there was the time when he was 12 when he was in the temple courts, basically teaching a class. My point is I think it says something about, like the verses you read that sometimes looks like it's in contrast with the rest of them that says, like, lead a quiet life and work with your hands. And, you know, and then you got one that's like, you know, you're an ambassador of God. You know, we're boldly. God didn't give us a spirit of timidity, but of power. And so you're like, well, I thought I was supposed to lead a quiet life. But I think there's something to weigh, I mean, he literally led a quiet life for 30 years.

Uneventful. And I've wondered because here's his mother. She's told by Gabriel, the angel, that you're going to be with child. And she says, how can this be? Yeah. I'm a virgin. And we read about that by Gabriel saying, with God, nothing's impossible. Right.

So here it comes out of her loins in the manger. we remember it's Christmas, Christmas. And she's looking at him, but she's knowing the whole time how he got there, which is rather unusual in any time frame. This is the first born overall creation here. And you're like coming out of a human, where she's looking at him and taking care of him.

He's a kid. but all the way, can you imagine, after all the smoke cleared, she's hearing all these rumors that now they've got him, they're taking him, they're going to hang him on a cross, crucify him. She's sitting there this whole time, because even some of her other children didn't believe in him at first. Nope. His own brothers.

Right. So you're talking about a childhood that would be an unusual one. I think that there would be more. I think the Bible writer didn't think it necessary for her to look at that that part of the equation. But on Mary's account, all the way the cross, she's looking up there and saying that that's the one that came here, the way he came here. So she never doubted whatsoever. But she just took it all in stride. And I think it is worth noting that the first ones that saw him when he was raised from the dead were the women,

Mary, his own mother. That's right. You see what I'm saying? Right. I mean, you just think about it, that kind of, to her, she said, so that's what all that was about. Yeah. Which is pretty amazing.

Think about it, really. Oh, yeah. And that she really never. It brings tears to my eyes, ladies and gentlemen, to just look at the whole picture through her eyes. Can you imagine that? Well, you know, Dad, she was the only physical link that Jesus had to humanity was her. That's right.

Because everything else, there was no, you know, Joseph wasn't his dad because he was of spiritual origin. That's right. So, I mean, she was the link to humanity, which is, when you think about it, I mean, what a responsibility, but what an honor. Oh. You know, which is why people honor so much. I get it. Let's take another break. Well, I think it says something about patience and leading an ordinary life.

You know, a lot of people there, like, they come to Jesus and they want all this. Fanfare and hoopla. You know, immediately. And, I mean, it just, it takes time. And there's a process. She basically stood quietly by everything that was happening and swirling around him. She was just over there watching. Right.

Yeah. I just think the fact, too, that he did it that way. I mean, if I was God, glad I'm not to be terrible. What's this waiting around? What's this going for 30 years? Yeah. And when Gabriel got. through informing her yeah you're gonna have a baby by the way your kin folks over there

Elizabeth she's up at about seven five years old whatever she's in her 70s but she's six months pregnant right now I just thought I'd tell you that that's Gabriel talking to Mary Mary said do what and she's like oh so yeah that's right there's another one coming but he's got a natural birth a natural birth he is but the one we're talking about here Mary it's not natural it's this is a a spiritual birth. But you didn't imagine her trying to get that information saying, let me see now. Elizabeth is in her going, oh, she's an old woman. And, you know, and Zacharized, old is a heel. And she's six months. That's when Gabriel said, look, I know this is kind of hard to grasp. This is coming at you pretty fast, but nothing's impossible for God.

And that's the real. It has my faith to not worry about things when you say, well, you know, I don't know. If this happens, then that couldn't happen with God. I mean, well, my theory has always... He pulled this off.

Anything could happen. My theory has always been about that, that was another, that was another thing coming from the spiritual round that gave her some physical help and spiritual help. Because think about it, nobody believed her, including Joseph initially.

That is correct. And then the angel lined him out and said, no, or a vision. They were all getting ready to pounce on her. Well, she's a teenage girl who's hadn't, she hadn't slept with her. I get rid of her.

Oh, Joe DeVal, I get rid of. And he was, you know, he was a good guy. Keep the heat off of a best of ten. So she didn't have anybody she could communicate with or talk to him about this. And so he says, oh, by the way, you're. And it's not, wasn't fitting for her to go to marriage counseling. No, that's right. Nobody was going to listen to her.

I mean, think about that. I would believe you anyway. So that's why I think he opened that door for her. Because you remember when she walks up, Elizabeth says, the child of my womb, which of course was down in the bed, was just leapt. Just jumped. Jump for joy. Yeah.

So all of a sudden it's like she could relate to somebody else who, because like you said, their situation. They got together for months. Oh, yeah. And he wound up being the one that 30 years later. They're talking it over saying, you know, how you feel? Well, I feel pretty good. I said, boy, we're having, we're having some sure enough burst here.

Well, and that's why I don't think it's an accident that right after this temptation, you know, in chapter four in verse 12, Jesus hears that, John had been put in prison, so he returned to Galilee. And this is the moment where he goes public. You know, up until this point, he led a quiet ordinary life. That's right. Did right. No miracles.

Yeah. But, I mean, righteous to the core. And now he's had this baptism and this declaration, and he's had the temptation. His formal introduction, really. I just don't think it's an accident that when he hears John is in prison, because when you think about physical earthly kingdoms, the prison system is a part of their power. Yep.

You know, you've got police force, you've got armies, you got, you know, propaganda, whatever you, in that world. So you say, well, what happens? Well, Jesus goes to, he leaves Nazareth, and he goes to Copernum, which was by the lake in the area of Zebulun and Naftali, to fulfill what was said, so he's still fulfilling prophecy through the prophet Isaiah,

land here and the way of the sea along the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles, and then it says, the people living in darkness have seen a great light on those living in the sun. the land of the shadow of death, death, a light has dawned. So he's basically taking this prophecy,

or he's a light switch. And then he says, from that time on, Jesus began to preach, repent for the kingdom of heaven is near. And that's why I brought up that about John the Baptist. I think you see a clear picture of what Earth's kingdom is all about. I mean, what is he doing?

John the Baptist has been full of Holy Spirit, since birth, he looks like a wild hippie, you know, except that he's got animal skins and eat locust and honey, but he's declaring that there's a God and there's a Messiah, and they're like, let's put him in prison. A strange dude to pick out of the creation. Right. Pretty strange. Well, in essence, he's the last prophet because he was pointing to Jesus, who is the last

probably. But I mean, he was the last prophet of Israel to point people to the Messiah. He was it. So it almost like all those prophecies stop with him. That's right. It's almost like he channeled. Of course, you remember they thought he was Elijah, but he channeled Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, all those old guys were all channeled into this one crazy dude. Yep. That was pointing toward Jesus, which you know what I find fascinating, Jay's when we got a lot to go to get through the sermon on the Mount. But in Matthew 11, when John. heard in prison what Christ was doing, he sent his disciples to ask. So right after all this has happened in this sermon on the Mount, John sends word to Jesus says, are you the one who was to

come or should we expect someone else? You know, and I've always found that fascinating because he was a guy who we think of as being, you couldn't be any more convicted than this man. And yet in that prison, for whatever reason, he had doubts. He had doubts. He sent words to know. Or he just didn't know. Or he didn't know, but I mean, you know he knew because he said, what am I doing here? That's right. I mean, it's your cousin. You're like, huh? But I mean, that's why I think Jesus did stay here 30 years and go through the ordinary because it established the fact that what he was doing would be so much more extraordinary. Right. It's like you're telling me you came to, you're the creator of the universe and you basically

hung out for 30 years just building some baskets and whatever a carpenter's build but you know yep that's what he did you're right I'm looking at the people who came up with this and wrote it down I'm thinking what

what was motivating them to get this kind of information out to the world but Phil this is a reason where you know y'all I've said told my story many times I was real quiet shy until I came to Jesus. But this is one of the things I thought about because he was mainly quiet

until it was time to say something. And when he said something, he didn't stop talking about it until they killed him over it. And so I'm saying it's the power of motivation and what you're doing is a factor. I mean, just because your personality may, you may seem one way or another. I mean, God can really,

he does extraordinary out of ordinary that's what he does i think he was laying the premise no i think you're right and i think his normalcy worked against him with those closest to him exactly i think that's why his brothers didn't believe i think so too because you remember we talked about that one little scene where there he was going to go to jerusalem and they got ready to show us some stuff yeah because he's they said if you're going to be a public figure you got to get out there more i mean yeah but i'll look at the frustration they put no political line on That's right. A public figure.

I mean, he's the son of God. He's your brother, but it's like, well, if you're going to really get into this, you don't have to. I hate to say, Joe Biden never, he just hung back in the shadows, but he made it. He made it. In politics. See, think about all the conflict, the brothers and cousins that you're raised with. And, you know, you have disagreements and conflicts.

And one of them says, oh, you think you're perfect. And Jesus is like, yeah. Well, then you're better. That's right. He thinks he's perfect. Hey, let's take a break. You know what, you know what reminds me of that? It's just like Joseph and his brothers, remember back in the original, the 12 tribes?

Because he was the same way. He had that special gift of being able to interpret the dreams. The difference was he wasn't perfect. He was pretty cocky about it. But his brothers, I mean, they hated him in that case because they were like, who does he think he is? And, of course, he was Jacob's favorite. So it was just like what you're described.

By the way, I've seen that type situation flare up a lot within families. Oh, yeah. One of them, one of them is they get on one of them and they just rip him. Right. Well, especially when, I mean, this guy, you don't know he's from heaven. I mean, you heard the story. Yeah. You know, mom went through a psychological problem, you know, thinking that she had never been with a man.

I mean, I know this stuff had to come up. Oh, really? I mean, she actually claims that she may love with God, I guess. I mean, you know, tell us. how that went. Oh, yeah. She needs some medication. I'm probably,

because they didn't believe. So I think they had distanced themselves. It was just too unbelievable. Plus, they had to have had a terrible reputation in, you know, in Nazareth. I mean, everybody was like, oh, yeah, there's the, I mean, every time they would see Jesus, it would take them back for a lot of people to the lie that started.

That's from their perspective. Nobody's believing that story. No. And look, they still don't. They're like, Who knew? And for most families, you know, it would be a destructive process, which it kind of was for them in the sense that they didn't really believe who he was.

When he finally got to that. It's kind of like, oh, whoa, what's the old guy, the second, third president of the United States, Thomas Jefferson. Yeah. He was like, whoa, with the version of birth, he was like, no, no way. Right, yeah. But then when he read what he said, he's like, I tell you what, I'm a Christian as far as what Jesus said.

Yeah. I can't argue with anything he said. He couldn't embrace the supernatural. Couldn't embrace the supernatural. A lot of people like that. A lot of people, by the way, to this day, and John said it had started way back. A lot of people, Al, have a difficult time and believing in the supernatural. That's right.

And especially like the virgin birth, they can't get past that. Right. They just like, it couldn't have happened. Even though Matthew tries to make the case because he says this was predicted, you know, hundreds of years earlier that this would be how he got here. And it was back in Isaiah S. That's true. So, you know, I mean, that in itself is pretty amazing that they claimed it hundreds of years later.

How could they have known? I doubt Mary or Joseph, either one ever knew. that was in Isaiah. I mean, you know, they didn't know that at all. So I got your sermon idea, based on the difference in the earthly kingdom that's locked John and eventually crucify Jesus, versus Jesus saying, repent for the kingdom of heaven is near. So this is where he went public. I think the show that we all love, The Chosen, did a good job of this about events that happened in Copernum. So I did this little study on Copernum,

which the English definition of the word that is translated, Copernum, is a confused jumble, a place marked by a disorderly accumulation of objects. That's what it means. I'm like, why did Jesus pick there to start his public ministry? Oh, because it's a confused jumble, a place marked by disorderly accumulation. So I'm going to prove that to you. And this was just in my study late at night.

So I picked out a few places and a few events that happened in Copernum that I thought, they were interesting. So one of them is found in Mark 1 in verse 21. Yep. Is that where you were going? Yep. Unbelievable.

Well, because here's the contrast. Let me read this. They went to Copernum, and when the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue and began to teach. The people were amazed at his teaching because he taught them as one who had authority. And look, by the way, this word is going to keep coming up about his authority.

Because when you start talking about heavenly kingdom versus earthly kingdom, it becomes an authority question. Not as the teachers of the law. Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an evil spirit cried out, which they, in Luke's version, he says something right before he says, what do you want with us do you know you remember what it was he goes ha ha ha you know it's in uh luke 433 and 34 so he laughs sound loud for it goes hot you know what Luke 433 and 34 he goes hi it says in a loud which is what we do in text messages and i didn't realize that actually

some guy who was demon possess i never have noticed that before j jays you uh boy that laid down Bible study, open up a little cat. I never have seen that. You know why I'm bringing this up? You know why I'm bringing this up? We call that a deep bat. James, only you could bring it up. Look, here's why I'm bringing this up.

Because what, I'm jumping to the end. Because I think that's what America does when Jesus comes on saying, I think it's the same. Now, I'm saying not the entire country because there are a lot of people who believe. But a lot of people when they hear about, oh, Jesus, the heavenly kingdom, where God reigns is where the kingdom is and God's reigning in you so you're the kingdom? Yeah. To add fuel to your statement, I got a letter that a day.

Most letters don't come my way, ladies and gentlemen, but every once in a while, if they find one worthy of notes or something, they bring it by. But I read the note, and the guy said, there's about 14 to 15 of us that's meeting up here. We're in the great state of Vermont. Vermont. He said, they're great. This line is we're the most non-religious state in these United States. They say it with pride.

We are a non-religious. We are ha, ha, ha, to your point. There's a sermon here. They are loving it and they're announcing it that we don't go this Jesus deal at all. It's ha-ha-ha-ha to them, which I thought a little interesting. And in lieu of what you just said, Jace, I mean, he said, look, there's 15 of us that are hanging tough. But he said, all around us. He said, it's just constant badgering of anybody.

The demon was like, ha. Yeah. And I think Mark left it out because he didn't have a sense of humor. That was a joke. But so, so then he says, hang on, yeah. Let's take our last break. He says, ha. And then he says, what do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth?

Have you come to destroy us? Which I think having the high in there gives you some cynical attitude. Because it's hard like when somebody sends a text message, it's hard to get the gift of it. They don't seem to be afraid right now. No, they're like, whatever. And this is the evil spirit that's talking about him, right? I know who you are the Holy One of God. But I just think that it's in quotations.

And so Jesus says, be quiet sternly. So, because I think this guy was, ha, yeah. Yeah. Well, he's like, be quite stern. So when the creator of the universe does anything sternly, I'm sure that was a mic drop moment. Come out of him. Evil spirit shook.

This is actually not funny, but I keep getting tickled. Shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek. And I'm not sure what a shriek is. That means... Ha-ha! How do you know that's what that is? That's what it is. If it helps your feelings, then it's the opposite of ha-ha-ha.

Yeah. Well, it might have just been... No, I think it was shrill. I thought it like a dog, you know, when he... Burr, you know. This is, it's a laughing matter. Yeah. And seconds later, when the demon leaves,

and there's shrieking, meaning screaming at the top of your lungs, the people watching would have said, uh-oh. There's something. Well, what they said is what my point, remember. What they said is what my point is, the people were all so amazed they asked each other, what is this?

A new teaching, and then they put, and with authority, exclamation point. He even gives orders to evil spirits, and they obey him. News about him spread all over. So my point is, look, I came up with these three things, not because I wanted to come up with three things. I just was trying to think about the different. in the earthly kingdom, the earthly authority, and Jesus' authority. And so I asked this question, what is the difference between Jesus speaking with authority

versus the teachers of the law? I mean, what was different in what they were representing, or just teachers in general, and what Jesus? So the first thing I thought about was the teachers of the law, they represent what is written. But Jesus represented the one who wrote it. I think that's the biggest point. It's a great point. And you think about modern churches today, how much is argued over what is written versus who wrote it.

Correct. And you don't think that'd be a big deal. That's why he said you did just study the scriptures because you think by them you possess eternal life, but the scriptures are talking about me, yet you refuse to come to me and be saved. I have they written down. John 539, 40.

I was fixed to say it next. So let me give you the second one. Let me give you the second one because we're almost out of time. So this is in Mark 2. You go the next chapter in Mark. Because Matthew doesn't go through each episode at Copernum, but when you read the other gospels, you see other things. So you remember the story about Jesus healing a paralytic that they opened up the roof and lowered him down.

Like verse 5, Jesus says, he saw their faith and he said to the paralytic, son, your sins are forgiven. Well, that was interesting because verse 6 says, now some teachers of the law, same group, they're following him around, we're sitting there thinking to themselves, why does this fellow talk like that? he's blasphemy. Who can forgive sins about, but God alone? So immediately Jesus knew in his spirit what this was and what they were thinking in their hearts. And he said to them, why are you thinking these things? Which is easier to say to the paralytic, your sins are forgiven or say, get up, take your mat and walk.

And there's several other illustrations. So I'm beginning to see a pattern form here, going back to the original question. because the thing swirls around Copernum where there's all these obnoxious behavior and unbelieving sinful people. If you can get this bunch turned around, start with the ones who are the laughers and the ones that are smug and lavered. Like we've got in America right now. Look what he says in verse 10, this same theme.

He says, but that you may know that the son of man has a, authority, there's a word again, on earth to forgive sins, he said to the paralytic, I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home. So my second point, the first one was the one who wrote it rather than what's written. The second one was Jesus highlighted the spiritual over the physical. And a lot of people, even today, when you fast forward to the modern churches, they're looking for those physical signs, but the source is more important than the sign. And that was his point here. All the trouble came in. He said, wait, he's about forgiving. I mean, heal him. That's great.

I mean, awesome. He's going to die again. But when he said, I'm forgiven and sins. Well, that's, you've now moved up the pecking order of authority. If you have that authority. One of the things that rang out from Jace, the naysayers, the high-saysayers, the high. ha-haz, we have never seen anything like this. Which was the reason he went over there. Right. Because he said, I'll show him things that they've never even thought could happen. Right.

Well, the third thing is in Matthew, so we're not, I'm not going to read it, but because we're going to get to it in chapter 8, where he healed the centurion's servant. So here's a guy, this is right after he heals a leper. Then he heals a centurion here. So here's a Greek who's not, I mean, he's not even from the right side of the tracks here. And it's a weird thing. I mean, because he represents the group that's eventually going to crucify Jesus and do the physical acts.

But he has this faith in Jesus and he has a love for his servant, which is really weird when you look at earthly powers. Most guys in charge, they ain't worried about their servants. Right. They'll get them another one. And I think that's why Jesus, like, stopped the presses and said, now this, I haven't seen greater faith. Because you really have somebody not operating from an earthly viewpoint. And that's why my third point is Jesus represented a heavenly kingdom,

not a earthly kingdom as far as power is concerned. Because he wants all people to be saved. I don't think it's an accident that it happened to be a Roman centurion. It happened to represent an earthly power where these things that I mentioned before, physical armies and police and walls and locks and clocks and and propaganda and politics, all those things funneled the earthly. You go over to Jesus side and it's spiritual armies, you know. The weapons we fight with are not of the world.

Because this is going to be the backdrop to where he's fixed to tell. you, the kind of people that God is seeking is just the opposite of what you thought. Yep. The me, the humble, those who mourn, you're like, what? Well, that, you would seem, that's the group that just got whooped by an army. Right. In the physical world. Yeah.

And I think that is what this contrast was about. Uh, about no prisons, no walls, you know, no lock. We have an eternal purpose. The ministry of giving. Instead of grabbing, you just think about it. In any kind of these wars, it's always you get their stuff. You get their treasure. You annihilate them.

You get their stuff. And with God, it's the exact opposite. You love them. We consider to be sheep, to be sacrificed, and we give. We give, we give, which is what he's set in the tone. So I just think when he said, repent for the kingdom of heaven is near that statement. was basically centered around those three aspects of, I'm representing the one who sent me.

It's more about the spiritual than the physical, even though I'm getting your attention with this. You know, and eventually it'll be more about the heavenly rather than the heaven. And it's also a confirmation of what John had been saying up until this point anyway, right? Exactly. So we've got to close out. I do want to mention this.

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