Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 344 | Phil Announces His New Ministry & the Mysterious Lost Episodes of Unashamed

Episode Date: September 12, 2021

Dan the Eunuch visits the Lair, and Phil shares a story about how he became an impromptu heavy equipment operator. Jase has an unusual idea about where a preacher should be when he delivers his sermons. Phil and Miss Kay's new nonprofit ministry launches its first project, “The C+ Gospel Series.” And the guys discuss what Jesus really meant when he said, "Blessed are the poor in spirit." https://cplusministries.org/ — Get book one of Phil's C+ Gospel Series now! All proceeds go toward sharing the Gospel. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? I appreciate that. That's Dan the man. Dan, speaking of the woolly look or the slick look, he went with the slick look. He's 35 years. I feel like we've started mid-stream. Willie?

Woolly? He's talking about, we did, remember on the last podcast we talked about. You got two types of males running around males. they're the woolly types. That'd be like you. And then there's the skinheads. But it all comes down to the hair. Do I lose it?

Do I keep it? Do I sell it? Do I get rid of it? Do I make it grow? A lot of talk about hair. But Dan over there, he said, just slick it. Yeah. Just slick it.

No hair. No hair. He just got rid of hair. But he's also, this morning, he brought us some cups here for a while ago. I appreciate that. For those of you listening, Dan has entered the layers. It's on the premises. If you're wondering what's going on there.

45 minutes ago, an hour ago, down in the middle of the woods, Dan, we didn't have the operator, Jimmy Redd, Redneck Gibson on the scene because he's up there, you know, getting ready to go. Wait, minute. Let me ask that. So is he red because he used to have red hair, or is he red because he's a redneck? Or is it some combination of a book? It's a combination of a book.

Okay. Well, he's married to a red head. Well, that too. But he's a heavy equipment. operator, but he was not on the scene down in the woods this morning. We had two gate valves. We just put a dump across the bayou. We got these gate valves, and Mack Hobbs welded up for me.

So Dan said, well, I'll take care of the track over here, you know, get them off the truck. These things are expensive. Trachos? They're gates. The trackos expensive about 150 grand. And Dan jumps up on that thing, you know. So, Dan, you're a bit heavy equipment operator out of that? Oh, look.

I'm learning it. I'm learning it. The first time the iron hit the iron, and, you know, I was watching him because, you know, I didn't want to get around. This thing, we picked it up off a trailer, and if it falls on you, you're dead. So he just was. And I saw the hole that you dug. If you fall in that, you're dead. Yeah.

Amazingly. Dan went from a eunuch that helps Ms. Kay, her butler. He went from that to a heavy equipment operator, and I'm watching him, and I mean, he's doing it. It's slow. Everybody's moving in slow motion. But we picked up two big pieces of iron, swung them around, laid them down over in the woods, go come back, got the other one, put straps on them, and he did raise, just think about a big metal gate. Well, that's about what the thing was, but Dan's over there.

He never missed a lick on the whole thing. All he did was get in there, and he was looking at the other. A lot of people don't know he never missed a lick. That means he did great. That's thumbs up. What I'm saying is, do not ever under-est-est-exam-a-old. estimate Dan. I mean, skinhead, he's got a routine.

He wakes up in the morning. He eats algae and, you know, uncooked egg whites. I mean, he's very health. Oh, what are you talking about? How do you get the egg whites, if they're uncooked, separated from the yolk? There's a liquidated egg white from the store. Oh, they sell that that way? That seems, that makes me uncomfortable.

I don't know why. What I'm telling you is the guy has multiple skill sets, and, you know, I tell you, he's decided not to marry. I'm just saying, can you imagine? Date women and anything like that. Can you imagine meeting a guy on the street and you say, what do you do for a living? He says, I actually separate the egg whites from the yolk. No, that's just to keep him going. No, I'm saying there's a person who's doing that as a job if you can buy one in the store.

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around that. All right. So, Dan, we're going to have to invite you on the podcast officially sometimes so you can defend yourself. Yeah, exactly. What does that have to do with the cups? I don't know. We ran out of a cup.

I have the goodness of his heart. I said, call down, pretend I'm bringing some cups this morning. I will say this, that y'all can't see me, but the head thing, the shaving the head, that's for aerodynamics. So I'll defend myself right there. Good to see you, Dan. The visit by Dan. We had to have Dan on the podcast.

Dan was that most people don't know this. The Unashamed podcast originally, we had, before we hooked in with Blaze, we were going to call it Net Faith podcast. I don't know where that came from, but I saw some old notes. Net Faith? Net Faith.

And it was, I don't know. What is it? I tell you one thing. Daniel Stevenson, that guy right there and his daddy, his daddy and his, you know, they were strict on him. But I can just tell old Gary right now, Gary, that boy is the most trustworthy individual I've seen in a long time. Steady Eddie, Gary. Steady Eddie.

So, yeah, so we net phase, it was before you came into the project. And so Dan, we actually recorded. There's like 15 or 20 lost episodes out there floating around somewhere of me, dad, and Dan doing this. I only bring the trustworthiness up because we're in our culture now. And we're almost to the point to where when you see someone or run up on someone that is 100% trustworthy, you need to take special note of that, as all I'm saying. But, I mean, you know, I trust him with my life or my money. Actually, you do, both because, you know, he's the guy. And he does take care of mom as well.

So we love him. And it's awesome. We'll have him on the podcast sometimes. So I want to mention this something brand new, Dad, that we've just come out with. And it's called the C-plus Gospel Series, which is really cool. This is mom and dad, along with Ben and Melissa, my cousins, Ben and Melissa Atkins, started a 501C3, kind of like Miyamu. And it's called C-plus Ministries, because dad says he's a C-plus man, right?

And so my point with the C plus thing was that we're in the book of Matthew. We're fixing to run upon a text in Matthew 16 after Jesus asked Peter and him, he said, who they say I am. Well, some say Elijah, one of the prophets, you know. They're saying you're all kind of people. So they was given guessing at who Jesus Christ was. But Jesus said, well, what about you, Peter? This is coming up later on in our study in Matthew.

you. He said, who do you say I am? He said, you're the Christ, Messiah, the Savior of the world. That's who you are. And he said, I'm going to give you the keys to the kingdom, Peter. You're going to be the ones that open the gate to it, son. So what they've already said, it's near, it's near. So right below there in Matthew 16, from that time on. So everybody, take a note. When you get to Matthew 16, about the mid-part there, when you get down there where Jesus said, look, here's what's fixing to happen. He's predicting what all the prophets said about him.

And what he said was, in the middle of 16, you get out and about verse 21. Start there, and here's what you're going to do. This will be great for you people out there that are Bible readers. What you do is you write down the next time he says that right next to Matthew 1621. From that time on, he must go up to Jerusalem, suffer many things, at the hands of the elders, the chief priest, the teachers of the law, all these people he's dealing with. They're all going to be gathered together against him, along with the Roman Empire, that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. he sets the standard he's talking about the coming kingdom he being the king and the way he's going to end up the messiah of the world the savior is because he's going to die be buried and raised from the dead

start there the next time you see that is matthew 17 just turn one page and watch this when they came together in Galilee. This is Matthew 17, about verse 20. The reason I call it C plus gospel. The son of man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him. And on the third day, he will be raised to life. And check us out, the disciples were filled with grief, Al. They're like, what? He said, they're going to kill me. They didn't understand the ramifications about the erection. You don't run away from somebody who you know is fixed to be raised from the dead. When they finally did hang him on the cross aisle, everybody hit the road, including Peter,

who's sitting there with the keys to the kingdom. Everybody deserted. He said, this is going to happen. Now watch. Then you put beside Matthew 17, after Matthew 16, you put 20, 18, chapter 20, verse 18. So you turn a page or two and you get to the part about what Jesus said. We're going up to Jerusalem.

See if this sounds. We are beginning to get very redundant. Jesus is. We're going up to Jerusalem. Son of man will be betrayed to the chief priest and teachers of the law. Well, that's what he said back over there in Matthew 16. They'll condemn him to death. They'll turn him over to the Gentiles.

There's the Romans, the Roman soldiers, ramming a spear in him, to be mocked, flogged, and crucified. What a thing to say about yourself? You're saying, this is what's fixing to happen. Well, lo and behold, you put your next text, Matthew 26, verse 2. So you follow what Jesus is saying, who he is, what he's going to do. And Matthew records, you know what? Jesus Christ died, was buried, and raised from the dead.

And he said, and I now have all the authority on earth and in heaven. I'm the one they killed and I'm back standing here. And they're all looking at it. Well, why is everybody so shocked? He told them what he was going to do. Well, when you get to Mark, you start over there in Matthew and in Mark, throughout the book of Mark, the gospel, Jesus is going to be condemned. He tells the same thing. Mark recorded him doing it.

You get to Luke. Jesus said, I'm going to die, be buried, and raised from the dead. You get to John, Jesus said, I'm going to die, be buried, and raised from the dead. And each one of those guys, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Al, record the same story. So the question is, why be so redundant and why keep saying something over and over and over? Here's a news flash. So you can't miss it. It's impossible to miss.

if you'll just read the text about what he said, who he was, what he did, what he's now doing, back in heaven at the right end of the Father, mediating for the members of the kingdom. The kingdom came, and guess who was doing the sermon, the preaching when you get to the book of Acts? Peter, because he's the one that had been given the keys. He said, you with the help of wicked men put Jesus to death by nailing him to the cross. He said, now Peter's all five. up because he saw it. He ran away.

When he looked back, he said, good night. The grave scene where Mary and Peter and John ran up there. He said, good night. Where's his body? What's going on? They still didn't grasp the levity of what he said the whole time he was with him. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the gospel is Jesus dying for the sins of the world, being buried and raised from the dead.

God has become flesh. We remember it as Christmas. We're counting time by him. And when you read through these texts and you get into the epistles, it just keeps coming up. It's preached. Paul told the Corinthians. It's received. It's stood on.

It's believed. And if you don't, and if you get out of whack and you forget what you heard, you'll be condemned. So Jesus died was buried and raised from the dead. It's not rocket science. And look, for all you who say, do you cover that material in this little C-plus gospel series? We cover that for the ones who want it. We do it in air coming out of heaven, God becoming flesh, dying on a cross. We have that.

The empty tomb and the air going into heaven. And the final arrow is what we are now waiting for in September of 2021. all we're waiting on is the return, Al. That's right. What a story. The purpose of this booklet is a resource for you guys. And so when you get it, just know that the purpose of this ministry is to get the gospel out. So it's just a resource.

And it's hopefully the first book of many. We started out with the gospel because that's the most important place to start. We're probably going to use some of the books we've done, do something on the book of John, something on Acts. something right. By the way, while you're there. So it's just a resource. Go to cplusministries. You bet.org. C plus p.lus ministries.org and you can get a copy of it. By the way, the final thing that you go in and there, it's, I want to remind you of the gospel I preach to you, which you've received on which you've taken your stand, and this

gospel is what saves you. And what happened to me, I passed on you. This is critical. Of first importance. Right. One place in the Bible it says this is what I'm saying to you is of number one importance. Jesus died was being raised from the dead. That's 1st Corinthians 15 in the epistles, and it just keeps coming forth in all of them. Right. What happened in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. So just to let you know, everybody, when you buy this book, this money does not go to us.

This is a nonprofit. Every bit of money goes in here goes to advance the gospel. So it's not going to us. So just so you know, that's the purpose of it. Let's take a break. So before we get into our thing, I do want to mention that we want you guys to be sure in rate and review and share on all of our social media platforms that's important for the podcast. So be sure and remember that. So, Jace, we're Matthew 5.

We've been doing a little deep dive. I actually had to study this last night because it seemed simple. when you first read it. But to my knowledge, I don't think I've ever participated in a deep dive of Matthew 5 and the B attitudes. And what gave me trouble was, you know, when you see this when he starts the sermon, the red letters, and he goes up on a mountain, which I've used this as a joke to legalist and organized religion around the world, this first verse.

So, you know, you're a preacher. So if you want to use this, look, I'm going to give you a funny, you know, for people who are uncomfortable with anything happening different in a church organized setting, in their day, actually, Jesus goes up to the mountain and he sat down. Everybody else stood up. So I'm like, we do the opposite. We have. I sit at a table. I knew you were going to like this, Phil. So the preacher's down.

I don't want to talk down to people, but I want to talk with people. So my joke is when people say, you know, I don't know if it's something, you know, ridiculous. Like you can't eat a biscuit in the Holy of Holies or whatever. Or they try to, you know, this is my spot or whatever. It's like, well, if we want to be like Jesus, we should have the preacher sit down and the crowd stand up. Amen. See how well that goes over. That would be all for it.

They wrote a book about that. Exodus. That's pretty funny. So Jay's where you went to Israel, I've heard people say that they take people in these tours to this spot. Did you go to this spot? I did go to this spot. You went to that spot. Because I've heard that part of it, yeah, which is pretty cool.

Now, you know, because this is one of the most famous. When people say this is the spot. Well, right. I mean, look, the whole thing looks similar. It's basically the sea of Galilee is in a bowl. So if you get on any little mountain there, there's a lot of places where there are cliffs where a crowd could be underneath.

But the spot they deemed it's real pretty. Somebody put like a little hut where you could have dinner under there and there's a cross. and I mean, they made it look kind of like a picnic area. But it is surreal to imagine. If it wasn't that spot, it was somewhere like that spot. But it makes more sense on how you could be heard. Right.

Which a lot of people, when you think, they didn't have microphones. But once I went there, I thought, I see how this will work. Because sound would travel down to where the people. Well, just, yeah. But he starts off giving the roadmap to these people with these qualities. And the reason I think I had difficulty with it is, you know, this word that's translated blessed, which means happy in the English language, a little more happy with a little more substance, I would say.

So if I just read it, he starts off saying, blessed are the poor and spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed of those who mourn, for they will be comforting. blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they will be filled blessed are the merciful they will be shown mercy blessed are the pure and heart for they will see god blesser are the peacemakers for they will be called sons of god blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness for theirs is the kingdom of heaven and then he kind of goes on about that last point about blessing are you so happy are you

you know, when people insults you, persecute you, falsely say all kinds of evil against you because it's very counterintuitive for that. That's what I was getting at. I mean, if you just picked. We've all three at some point, off and on, off and on, have experienced that. Oh, yeah. No doubt. It's just a given.

What stands out is, I mean, if you just put happy in verse four, happier are those who mourn. What? Well, how does that work? Right. you would never think that to be true. And look, I'm going to be honest, most of this stuff when I was a youngster, this was frowned upon.

Like, you know, Willie and I fought pretty much every day for a couple of years. And we always got to the end, and I would usually say, say mercy. He would never say it. There was a couple of occasions where I was, he had used some trap to get me. And he's like, say mercy.

I didn't even know what that meant, but I know it wasn't going to say it. I mean, look, if I would have died. Mercy comes hard for all human beings. That's right. Yeah. Mercy comes hard. Especially in battle, in conflicts, you know.

That's right. I'm like, I don't know what that means, but I'm not saying it because he wants me to. And right now I'm dying. I could be dead. That was the reason Jesus said. it just because of your conclusion there. So, well, what got me to thinking, I was like, I see why we don't talk about these qualities

much. So I studied, I read pretty much most of the night because I was trying to get my head wrapped up. It was a list of qualities that he possessed, and they didn't, and we don't, until there's growth, there's repentance. There's, there's. Yeah, these things are not easy to come by. No.

So here's what. These don't, they don't come to you naturally. That's why when the world, Jay, says, well, we can be good without these qualities. Because we're not going to read that junk. Y'all read. Yeah. Well, it's the exact opposite. We say, have you ever tried this?

Or just as a lifestyle? And they'll have, they have to say, well, not really. I don't bleed the Bible. Well, if they read these qualities, you would think they would say, yeah, but it's not possible. Well, human beings to be like this. It's not going to happen. You say, you know, it can happen. Well, because we do the opposite.

I mean, you just think about it. Yeah. People make fun of people for being meek or use that as weakness or they're not hungering and thirsting for righteousness. They're hungry and thirsting for food and a beverage. You know what I mean? It's, that's it. Just go to Facebook. How do these qualities are they part of from what I've heard about Facebook?

From a guy that's never been to Facebook? I never looked at Facebook. I don't know what the face in the books. I don't know what about that. What it means? But this is a book I'm reading now and it's face to face with it. But do you find these? This is the original Facebook.

Because I'm going on what y'all told me. These qualities are not. Y'all said everything's a lie on Facebook until proven otherwise. It's actually a good. That's a long way from what Jesus said. It's actually a really good illustration. It's just weird because it's true. You're not going to find these qualities on any kind of social media platform.

Very rarely. So the question is why? It ain't there. Why is it not there? Because it's about exalting yourself. Well, this is all about lowering. Now you're on to something. And trying to only make yourself look better.

I mean, that's part of the whole purpose behind it. Even the stage stuff that people do on social media, it always seems to be some hidden thing with people. The state of Vermont, they gather together as champions of the idea that this is the only place in America where there's really no religion. We finally got rid of it. Well, I'm looking at the poor and spirit, the ones who mourn, the meek, the ones who hunger and thirst for righteousness, the ones who are merciful, and the pure and heart, and the peacemakers. Why would they rail against those qualities that you would see in human beings?

Why would you rail against it? Well, I mean, because you don't understand it. I mean, as much as anything. Well, hang on, just let's take a break. Well, here's what I think. I think just reading this, when you try to kind of practically put these things in your life, that's where the difficulty is. That's where I had trouble recognizing.

So how do I do this? So the more I studied, here's what I came up with, y'all and poke holes in it. It's not going to hurt my feelings. Here's what I came up with. I came up with that I think, what I think, what I think, think is, is the first four of these beatitudes that somebody came up with? I think that's a good name for them. Yeah, that's pretty good. I think they are about how your heart relates to God. And the next four are how, if you have that relation, then how...

Well, you say it the ones who believe he exists. Exactly. He must believe he exists. Well, and I'm going to show you what I mean. And the other four are about how you relate to other people. Now, here's where I came up with that. Because like when you get to seven, which would be verse seven, the fifth quality, which is merciful and the pure and heart and the peacemaker

and happy are those who are persecuted, Well, God's not going to persecute us. So I know he's not talking about, that's other people we're going to persecute you. God is rich in mercy. So we're not talking about being merciful to God. He doesn't need mercy from us, you know. But the first four, I think, make more sense because if you look at it with your heart for God, because when you think, well, what does it mean to be poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom

of heaven. This is what I had trouble wrapping my head around, because I'm like, how do I be poor in spirit in the world? And that's why I think it's your heart towards God, because when you think of being rich in spirit, you can take a cursing, if you're poor in spirit, take a cursing and instead of retaliating, you just forgive them and move on. Well, I think that would be blessed are those who persecute you. What I think it means is that your spirit in view of the existence of God is poor because you realize how much you need him. This is where you get in the desperation, the brokenness.

People who don't believe in God, they don't think they need God. They're not poor in spirit. They're, I don't need God. They're hardy. There's no need here. I think that's what it means. Now look, I can be dead wrong if y'all have a different idea. No, I think that's...

Which leads to the second one, well, blessed of those who mourn, which, by the way, on that porn spirit. So if you think about, that's why I think it says for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Well, think about what the kingdom of heaven is. It's where God reigns. Well, unless your heart is broken to a point where you would look to God to reign, you wouldn't be part of the kingdom. So I think those two things, that's what made me think about it.

I thought, oh, because you wouldn't want to be a part of the kingdom if you didn't believe there's a God and you wouldn't believe there's a God if you weren't poor in spirit. If you were prideful in spirit, you'd say, I don't need God. I know what I'm doing. And I think people have overthought the word poor. It's kind of been applied through the years as like people in poverty or, you know, they don't have much going on in this life. That's not what he's talking about at all.

Because you could be highly successful, you know, which Jesus is going to run up on some people that are that have a good, their spirit is right and it's in tune with God or it's not. I mean, you're pouring your decision-making process, which has led you to realize that you can't answer your problems and there's a need for God. I mean, you can go back to your sin problem or your death problem, but basically just a life problem, you're not coming to God unless you realize that you just, you can't do this, right? Which I think is poor in spirit. I think overall the human race does not, they don't deal with the issue.

When Paul talked to Titus, he said, when the kindness and love of God, our Savior, appeared, he saved us. not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the spirit that he generously pulled out on us. So you read that text, you say,

it's all about mercy. Because if you get what you deserve, none of us would make it, none. Right. Let me read this. He provided a way where the merciful, they will be blessed. Yeah, I'm going to get to that merciful because I think that was the first one how we interact with people.

Let me say something just before you read that. So, Dad, you and I sat and had dinner with the family that owns Hobby Lobby. And so it's a billion dollar, over a billion dollar company, very successful. Would you say those folks were poor in spirit? Yeah. I mean, they were as successful as you could be in American culture and capitalism, all that. but their heart's desire through all this success is how to help people, how to get the gospel out.

I mean, to me, that kingdom-wise, that's what it's all. They stand out. They stand out a lot of culture. And they are exercising and being the light of the world. They are. In Salt and Light is exactly where he's headed with it. So I think if you think about two verses, these will help you about understanding what we're saying about being poor in spirit.

One of them is a famous verse. Proverbs 3, 5, and 6. And the other is James 316, which says where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder in every evil practice. So I think being poor in spirit is the opposite of having selfish ambition. Because you looked at yourself and you realized, you know what? I'm not taking it. Plus, if you're not the big dog, you don't care.

You're happy we're being the little pup. Well, right. So there's a humility, you're right, that kind of runs through all of these. But in Proverbs 3, 5, and 6, I think for what he's introducing here in Matthew, what he's set in the precedent, because we know where the next two chapters are going to go, he's going to get to what's going on in your heart, which I think that's why he started here. I mean, when you say poor in spirit, that's your heart. That's down deep where all the decisions are being made and all your emotions are bundled.

up into one. And that's what he's looking after. Not somebody who can correctly identify the list of rules that you're supposed to follow with your heart or not. Now, I think you're exactly right there. The purpose of this section beginning, because this is three or four chapters, he's fixing to go through this, is to create a contrast for what the mindset has been up to this point about what a kingdom life looks like.

No doubt. That's why he starts. That contrast is why he starts to hear. And he starts with such crazy ideas because, like I said, I mean, I've been following Jesus since I was 14. But when I read this last night and thought, I don't know, when I skimmed it, I thought, yeah, we got this. But then when I started analyzing it, and I was like, what in the world does it mean to be poor in spirit? Right. What does that look like?

And I had to come back to how you. You began to say, you began to say, boy, I've got some work to do. Yeah. Which I was found to be like, I was poor in spirit about being poor in spirit. Let's take another break. But I wanted to read this because I think this really goes in with what he's fixed to lay out. He says, trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. That's what Proverbs 3, 5 says, which the only way you wouldn't lean on your own understanding is if you were poor in spirit.

Yeah. Because we want to say, oh, I understand everything. I know everything. I'm the greatest. I'm, I mean, even, you know, we just did the thing on being a C plus man. but most people. It's kind of like, Jay's, looking at someone you know, you've been around them, you've been close to them,

you interact with them, and you find it very difficult, having been around them, with them, work with them, play with them, eat with them, and you begin to say, when is the last time I heard a belittle, string of profanity, vicious profanity, or hatred to rake. When's the last time I heard this person I've been around for years?

When's the last time I saw him pitch or her pitch a big fit and just holler and rant and rave about something? You're like, it's not that big a thing, but to them, they're ranting and they're right? You said, well, what about the people who just steady as she goes? Steady as you go, steady as you go. That would be poor in spirit. You say, I don't see any belligerents ever coming forth from them.

Right. So it's just kind of a learning curve because we certainly left alone, there's plenty of it. Start with Facebook and, you know, Google this and that and their mothering people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The attacks are just ad-humming them, just pour it out. You say, yeah, I kind of. Well, that's why all these things... I see what kind of heart.

Yeah. And it really starts at the simple. Yesterday, at least I heard this 16-year-old kid. He's working on her flyer bed. And he came in last night, and it was funny because, you know, it's a come and get some water, you know, whatever. He comes in, he sits down and says, Mr. Allen. He said, how do you know you have faith?

Mm-hmm. Which is an interesting question. And I said, do you believe that Jesus is who he said he was? Do you believe that he really is God? And he came to this earth and died for you? He said, yeah, I believe that. I said, is he your Lord? Or he's above and you're below?

He said, yeah. And I said, then that's how you know you have faith. It starts there. Now, it grows exponentially. But if you don't start with being poor in spirit, then you're never going to get to that point. I mean, he's got to be more. I have to be less. Yeah.

And I think that's why I didn't say this, but I thought it. The reason I broke them into two categories, which Jesus did. But, you know, he's going to eventually get to, you. can sum the whole law up with two things. Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and string, which I think those four things, those first four verses, represent that verse. Correct. And then the next one is love your neighbor as yourself, which I think these next four represent that, exactly. I think you own to something. I think I am. I'm going to read this because I think this is cool. When you get to the blessed of those who mourn and blessed are the meek,

so basically, you know, you think, well, why do you mourn? There's some suffering going on, either physically, emotionally, spirit, you lost someone, there's pain in your life, so you mourn. But it says, for they will be comforted. Well, we know who the comforter is. And then it says, blessed are those, blessed are the meek. And so I thought, what is meek? And I, the word that popped into my head was powerless. You know, when you're meek, you seem powerless. Whatever that means. So more I've studied, I wound up in Romans 5 because I know we studied Romans,

but I didn't look at it from this vantage point. But, you know, he said, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. And we've gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. But watch this next verse. But not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, which is another contrast. We don't rejoice in our sufferings very often. I mean, let's just be honest.

You can read that and it sounds great, but we're like, no, there's nothing happy about this. But watch what he says. Why? We rejoice in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance and perseverance character and character hope. But watch what happens here. And hope does not disappoint us because God has poured out his love into our hearts, which I think is the whole point of what he's representing here,

about getting your heart right before God. By the Holy Spirit whom he has given us, there's where your comfort's going to come from. So it's basically, that's why when I read that, Blessed of those who mourn for they'll be comforted, because the pain that happens in our lives has our heart in a situation that God specializes in comforting. And then you say, well, what about the meek and the powerless? Well, then he goes on the next part.

He says, you see just at the right time when we were still powerless, which I think that's a synonym for meek, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man. And you're familiar with that. And I thought of another verse where, you know, that one that says in 2 Corinthians, where it says we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that the power is from God.

But you remember what comes after that? Isn't that 2 Corinthians 4? Yeah, 2 Corinthians 4, 6. But then it says that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. So meek people come to God and he supplies the power. Right. But then, you know, the next verse is after that in 2ndon 4, we are hard pressed on every side, crushed, perplex,

but not in the spirit, persecuted, but not abandoned. We always carry in our body the death of Jesus so that, the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body, which if you go back to the B attitudes, there again, I think those first four represent what the Christ, what the cross of Christ appeals to. And the next four is about more of the resurrection and how you interact with other people. Right, which is one step two. Let's take another break. So I got two illustrations, Jays, that I think prove what you're saying is true. On the meek side, you remember Moses in Exodus.

We see how Moses was born. He was raised in the house of Pharaoh. He gets to be 40 years old. And then he thinks this is time to lead. He goes out and he kills this person that's mistreating his fellow Hebrew. I mean, this is a guy who's been trained, who's physically there. He's got all the power. But then he realized in the moment nobody was going to follow.

So he takes off, he flees. And he winds up in a desert, tending to sheep for 40 years. And then he winds up, God calls on him, comes back, and through a burning bush, and says, all right, now you're ready to lead. 40 years of being in the middle of nowhere, having no interaction. And at one time he thought he was the big deal. And the reason I bring him up is because I think it's somewhere in numbers. It says Moses was the meekest man on earth.

In other words, the most humble person on the earth at the time when this is going down was Moses. And the only way it happened was because he then didn't think he was the guy, but after 40 years out there in the desert of understanding that God really was bigger than he was, he then was able to lead. So his life sort of broke down in 40 years. Then his last 40 years, he led to people out of it. Oh, I agree 100%. I think these first four things all take time and you have to, you have to like marinate in the misery of it all. But I, I think, I think you're 100% right. And all those stories that I thought of in reading this, there was a common theme.

And it is while we wait in these qualities, God is working. That's right. Every time. While you're in it, he's working. That's why I read that Romans 5. It's a process that we don't. We can't stop and recognize it. Oh, I'm developing character here because this sure is painful.

Yeah. And, you know, it's just not happening. Well, it is worthy of note. we covered this before in the podcast, but this is so similar to, when you start reading, Blessed of those who mourn for they will be comforted, the meek, they'll inherit the earth. Praise be to God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 2nd Corinthians, chapter 1 about verse 3. Look how many times he says this, and we've covered this before, but it's a good time to insert it. What text are you in?

Second Corinthiansthias 1, verse 3. The Father of Compassion, and he's sitting there talking to him in Matthew, the God of all comfort. Yeah, this goes with four, where it says, Blessed of those he mourn, for they will be comforted. That's right. He comforts us in all our troubles. He's always there, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort

we ourselves have received from God. So it has a way among human beings of spreading. It begins to spread when you're around people who are comforting to be around than the ones you're waiting on some belligerent. Yeah, hollering and blith. For just as the sufferings, which is mentioned in the beatitudes, of Christ flow into our lives, So also through Christ, our comfort overflows.

That's even when you lose loved ones. It's something unfortunate happen. If we're distressed, it's for your comfort and salvation. If we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer. Life's always going to be, there's going to be suffering there from a lot of different angles, but you need to be ready for it, and without God, it's difficult to deal with. I hope for you as firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings,

so also you share in our comfort. That's a lot said about comfort, but it goes along with the beatitude, because with this particular group of people, there was a lot of yeah, yeah, yeah going on. If you read First and Second Corinthians, there was a lot of work that needed to be done among the brothers, because they were, you know, some of them said, I follow Paul, I follow Sieve, they had broken it down, and it was a lot of discomfort among them. Yeah, right.

Well, it made me think. And the beatitudes that Jesus said that day was not being demonstrated. Right. Exactly. I left out one key point on verse 5 that I discovered, which when it says, Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. well the meek when you come to God he supplies the power which is why I read that

Romans 5 and that's why I think it says for they will inherit the earth because when you have the spirit of God God is reigning the kingdom is here and that's why he says you will inherit the earth you know when you think about that verse revelation 510 it says he has made them to be a kingdom and priest, and they will reign on the earth. So I think that's what it's referring to, because you think, well, and all these other things, he's talking about heaven.

You know, he says, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven, because God is your father, Jesus is your Lord and Savior, and you now have the Holy Spirit, you're part of the kingdom of heaven on earth. But when he says, the meek will inherit the earth, I think that's more about you reigning on the earth, being spirit-filled, while we're here now.

That's right. I don't know of any other way you could, because why would you want the earth if it's going to burn up one day? It's like if somebody says, hey, man, you guys rule. We're like, yeah. Yep. Yeah. That's right.

Of course, then they usually laugh. They go back to that demon-possessed guy that go, ha. So I wanted to say this for the last one. I guess we're doing the first half of this because we're almost out of time. So the fourth one was about, Blessed of those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. And I think that seems obvious.

But you've got to realize when you come at God with this brokenness and with perhaps mourning and pain and powerless, and you're now, you've done a terrible job of doing right, because we are all sinners. We're all imperfect. So I think there's a lot of places you could go, but the one that I really liked was when Paul in Philippians 3, and I think this goes in with what that's saying.

In verse 7, he said, whatever was to my prophet, I now consider loss. Well, there's the poor in spirit. Yep. For the sake of Christ. What is more, I consider everything. a loss, which there's the meekness in the morning, because he looks back on his past, I mean, his whole path, I mean, here's a guy, he's talking about some morning,

who's killing other Christians before he came to Christ. I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus, my Lord, for whose sake I've lost all things, I consider them rubbish that I may gain Christ. Now here's the part about hungering and thirsting for righteousness. And being found, this is verse 9 of Philippians 3, and being found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, which I think that's what Jesus is fixed to address in the next three chapters. But that which is through faith in Christ Jesus, the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith, which is when you asked that question earlier about the guy. saying, how do I know I have faith? I was thinking of this verse.

I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, and so somehow to attain to the resurrection from the dead. When you have that mindset, you're literally getting up with Spirit of God being led. That's a great mindset. To hunger for, you know, for what's right.

But isn't it interesting that he uses two physical components, hunger and thirst? but put in a spiritual context. In other words, as much as you get hungry in every day and you eat or you get thirsty and you drink, just that same automatic, I have to do this to survive, he puts it in a spiritual context and says, that's the way I want you pursuing righteousness.

Just like you would feed yourself and give yourself. But to your point, whatever you put in is what's going to come out in your life. Remember that Hebrew is what it's for, where he says, you know, you take the script. and you feed on them. Yeah. And you train yourself to distinguish good from evil. That's right.

There's a lot of truth in that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, to Al's point, I mean, when the guy said, how do you know you can have faith? You know, First John 5 says, I write these things so that you may know that you have eternal life. That's it. I mean, that's what I said starts there. Yeah, you put more of these qualities, especially the red leather.

It sure keep you going. Into your heart. Yeah. And then next thing you know, you're. You're like, I'm becoming like Jesus on there. Michael Jeremiah Johnson, and that old mountain mad ass him, you know. He said, where's it worth all of trouble? He said, huh?

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