Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 350 | Jase Freaks Out Pizzeria Customers & How to Disrupt This Fake, Virtue-Signaling Culture
Episode Date: September 22, 2021Jase walks right into a baby-shower trap and doesn't have any idea what's about to hit him. Al relives a childhood warning from Phil about his manhood. Jase's unusual behavior at a local pizza joint p...rompts the manager to have a word with him. Missy inspires Jase to consider a "no tossing" rule. Jase explains how we can be God's secret agents. And Zach makes the case that virtue signaling and cancel culture have actually primed us for revival. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed. What about you?
I had an interesting weekend. I had a first. I mean, I've been on the earth longer by the day.
Over 50 years. I had never been to a baby shower in my life.
You ever been to one?
I think so my son. I don't know that I've ever been to one.
He's in from Nashville. I don't, I don't do baby shower.
I don't either, but I'm going to tell you what happened.
And if y'all want to get on me, get on me.
But my son, because his wife, my daughter-in-law, is having the baby.
So they're having a baby shower.
Oh, great.
So they're here.
Well, Reed said, let's go dove hunting while they're doing the women are doing the baby shower.
Well, now you got it.
Oh, I love it.
He found he had a hot lead on the doves.
So he's like, meet me here, you know.
So I'm GPS and I get over there.
I pull up to this nice house.
And I was like, well,
these cars doing here there's a lot of people fix to go on this dove on there's cars everywhere
jace you call that female entrap that's what it was so i walked in they lured you with the dove on
i walked in and heard all this screaming just people hollering and screaming and i was like what
well i look up then i see my wife sitting there i thought uh-oh this this is the so reed kind of was
grinning over there like yeah
All that meant was it was women who were doing the loud, not talking, right?
They were.
So look, I watched this proceeding.
So they were saying in women's language, we got him.
Yeah, they said, welcome, you know.
Biden was opening presents, you know.
So look, five minutes into this, I realized what's happened.
Because to them, this was opening day of duck season.
That was the comparison.
Because look, she would open a president.
They'd all hoop and hollering, high five.
and take pictures
and I thought
this is their version
of opening day of duck season
except that you were lured in
under false
precess.
Manhood is under danger
in the danger zone
the loss of manhood.
Well,
I looked at reading.
I said,
I thought we were going dove hunting.
He's like,
yeah,
but I just thought,
you know,
you'd see what they did.
I said,
well,
I saw it.
I've been here five minutes.
Congratulations.
This is awesome.
Did you have a present, you know, diapers, whatever for the baby?
No, I put Missy in charge of that.
I said, what did we get her?
She actually told me.
So you came without a gift?
Well, Missy had two gifts, so I figured one for each of us.
So I had a similar moment, so we were down at the Southern Lair.
And Dad's words, all of our growing up, I mean, one of the things he always said was, boys,
you'll know you've lost your manhood
if your butts ever sticking up out of a flower bed
so I was
butt stick up on you remember saying that
I don't even know what that means I was leaning over
and I was pulling some weeks
that's too far back for me to remember
I was I was pulling some weeds out of the thing
and those words just like flashed into my brain
and I thought I just backed up I was like
I don't lose my manhood
that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard
if your butt's
ever sticking out of a flower bear boys you've lost your men it's the beginning of the end
i don't agree so you weathered it how long did you stay at the day and i said i'm out of here
and i didn't say by i just left and so i went to get my gun and now i just it made me wanted just to go
shoot some dubs so we go out but it it was interesting i'm glad i did it because now i see
i never realized they it was their this is their hunting
Yeah.
So it made me.
So you picked up a new appreciation for her.
There's like some differences I've noticed throughout 30 years of marriage.
I mean, it's like my wife, she can't catch her throat.
You know, most all my buddies, if I say, hey, throw me the remote, they just toss it over.
But my wife has, she doesn't have those skills.
The first time I said, throw me the remote, it went by my head at about 60 miles an hour,
bounced off the wall in the five pieces.
I said, what are you mad?
She's like, you said throw you the remote?
I was like, but she's never had sport.
She doesn't understand the toss, toss concept.
So now we're at a point even my kids know it.
If there's ever, if she'll say throw me something, I'm like, everybody stops what they're doing.
I mean, the dogs look up.
It's like, you, she can't catch.
There's a missile.
Yeah, I'm like, we don't do that anymore at our house.
I get up, walk over, and hand it to her and say, there you go.
So anyway, there's a lot of differences.
The concept of tossing.
There's no tossing.
She can't, and she can't catch.
So I've injured her a couple times by just a light toss because she'll usually bumble,
fumble, bounce off her left eye, hit the floor, it's torn up.
So I was like, you know what, let's just don't.
That's no tossing between husband and wife.
So, you know, I learned what they do at a baby shower.
So it was exciting, I guess, for them.
And, I mean, I'm glad it's happening.
So we go dove hunt.
It's a pretty good little dove hunt.
So were there other men there other than Reed?
No, no.
Reed just did it as a joke.
Ah.
Yeah, we were going dove hunting, but he's like, come on it.
He just wanted me to see what they do.
I mean, he thought it's funny.
So he kind of prank me.
I don't want to see that.
I found it educational, Phil.
I now understand it.
Yeah, what would your reaction be if V&J's lured you up into the subdivision into a baby shower?
Let me tell you something.
I can smell a woman's gathering from 10 miles away.
I felt it interesting.
You know, it's like taking medicine, small doses.
So we go shoot the doves.
No, this story is just beginning.
I mean, I know the word is, stay in your lane, bro.
I don't think I would ever try it, although it sounds comical that it happened.
I mean, that would be pretty good.
Well, so here's what happens.
So she's out to baby.
They made it all day ordeal.
I'm out shooting duds.
All day?
Yeah, because look, so when I'm driving home, she calls me and says, look, and I've been in the shower all day.
And so I ordered a pizza.
Do you mind stopping and picking it up?
Of course, I was thinking I thought we were having duff.
But it wasn't like I'm going to, I did it.
By the way, was there any wine being served at the baby shower?
I don't know.
I don't know.
If not, there should have been.
I've moved on.
They were acting, you know, they were pretty excited.
So I don't know, maybe you got a point.
Maybe it's a, I mean, they were literally screaming.
I mean, just like you would have thought that they were watching a game and their team was winning.
I mean, it just caught my attention when you said they were there all day.
Well, I don't know.
But I get it now.
So look, I stop in at the pizza place, and it had been like 15 minutes since she had called.
And you're like, what does this got to do with anything?
I'm going to explain what happened.
This was a moment in society.
I have a breaking news.
There's a society shift.
And I don't know what it means.
I'm just going to tell you what happened.
So I get in the line, you know, with all.
You just feel you're embarrassed.
You know, you're in line to go through a drive-thru to pick up a pizza.
It's kind of embarrassing for them all right.
So I finally get up there and I give him my name and he's like, look, we've had a lot of people.
It's going to be 20 more minutes.
Do you mind waiting?
I was like, are you kidding me?
I was like, okay, yeah, sure.
So I pull around in front and I thought, I've got to sit here for 20 minutes.
I thought, I got the perfect idea.
I'll clean the doves, but I got it in the back of the truck.
So kill two birds and one stone.
So I'm in a parking lot.
I lower down my tailgate, you know, feathers are flying, you know, I'm going.
Well, I noticed you ever have that feeling you're being watched?
I look up in people.
It's like these yuppie type people are just with mouths open.
Some of them with their phones.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sure it's on the internet.
So then about 10 minutes into this, one of the employees comes out of Johnny's, he's like,
sir, can I ask you what you're doing?
I said, I'm cleaning these dubs I did a shot.
He said, oh, well, we had had some complaints.
I said, some complaints.
What?
And I said, what was the complaint?
He's like, well, they said there was a suspicious looking fellow out.
Out in the parking.
Not wearing a mask.
No, well, I'm in the parking lot.
And so I thought, where have we gotten in our society that a man is cleaning doves in a parking lot?
See, they were saying, he's got a bird.
He's a dead bird.
He's a dead bird.
There's a man out there cleaning a bird in a pizza parking lot.
So I said, well, is that a problem?
Some chicken got killed probably if they got pizzas, chicken, little pork.
I got seven.
I mean, pepperoni.
I got seven different animals.
They didn't see him die and be sliced up.
The pizza I ate had seven different animals there.
I got sweep the kitchen.
And you don't ask what's on it.
It's what's not in it.
I thought, what, what is happening?
There wasn't any dove on it.
I can tell you that.
No.
So I was like, so then he came back out.
And I thought, here we go again.
But then he had my pizzas.
And I was like, okay.
I said, well, I'm trying.
I'm in this, I'm in this quandary.
Should I eat these doves that are just cleaned?
Or should they eat your pizza?
I could see how would perk up the human, whatever, because.
when you're cleaning doves
dove is a bird that has a lot of feathers
and they're lightweight
and to try to do it in the parking lot
in front of a pizza house.
I've never thought about cleaning dove.
Oh, there were a lot of feathers
coming out of the back end of that truck.
Should I not have done that?
Well, I wouldn't have been in front of a pizza hut anyway,
pizza drive away anyways.
No, it was a Johnny's something.
I don't order pizza.
I would think, though, in West Monroe, Louisiana.
Where are the hunters?
What happened to?
That's what I'm saying.
I would have thought in Westmore, Louisiana, if a guy is cleaning birds in the back of his truck, which would be strange.
But if he was, they'd say, oh, he just kills some duff.
I would have to admit most of the people that I saw were female, and they were just like, and looked kind of well-to-do.
But there was, I mean, there was a woman that had her mouth open.
She looked horrified.
And I was
Horrified
I nodded my head like
Evening
I'm going to eat these
Later
Sorry
Jace you're having trouble
With this town life
Yeah I know
Of course it's funny that you said that you were Johnny
Because we went to Johnny yesterday for lunch
Which I never go to the place
I mean I usually pick up pizza
But I was after church
Bud N and said
You got plans for lunch
And I was like
Well not at least it's still in Alabama
I guess I don't
They said, well, do you want to go eat somewhere?
Well, I really didn't because I don't like going to restaurants,
especially on Sundays around here.
And I said, well, let's go to Johnny's because I had some of my grandkids.
For people don't know, it's kind of a local pizza.
Yeah, it's local pizza.
That we really like.
Oh, that's good.
It's really good.
So I went to Johnny's, but I noticed there was this kids up there working,
but they're like, they don't, kids don't, they're kids.
So they're like 18 years old.
But do you remember when you were 18?
I do.
There you go.
But I'm like, where's the management?
Because they didn't know how to wait on people.
Like they just didn't know what they were doing.
And, you know, we got our pizza and all that.
But I just thought it's not their fault because they haven't been trained.
Well, this just in, it's hard to find good workers these days.
Right.
In our society.
I don't know if it was the government giving the money or just people just.
But like, do they not get managed anymore?
Like, because a kid would need to know how to how to interact with people.
and wait on them and make sure you get the order right.
I think they're just at this point.
I mean, I'm basically guiding this kid through,
let's get this order done.
Because he's like, he doesn't know.
All those businesses are just,
they don't pay a whole lot and they just,
they've run out of,
they just got people off the street, basically.
Well, here was the fun.
I mean,
every fast food place you go through,
except for Chick-fil-A,
they don't, I mean,
they don't know what they're doing.
Well, it's better.
It's a, it's a crap shoot
whether you're going to get what you ordered.
It's better to eat at the house and take your time while you prepare.
What the funny part was when I get there, Missy is like, what is this on top of the box?
The feathers that were kind of stuck to the box with the blood.
Let me clean this off because when I grabbed the pizza, I hadn't washed my hands yet.
But, I mean, they were in the boxes, you know?
I was like, that's a lot of them.
So were you cleaning under the bird's hole?
Were you breasting them?
Yeah, I was breasting, but, you know, your hands get sticky.
And I didn't like I had a water faucet.
I didn't want to ask them, oh, yeah.
Can I use your water?
Can I get a water hose?
Now, that would have been, then you would have included Johnny's in the process.
Basically, after what it all had happened, I was thinking to myself,
I need to get out of here for the law.
Because I guarantee you somebody called them.
They were coming.
They're like, we're looking for someone that's out here just, he's taking some birds and doing something.
Most people don't clean game in front of a pizza parlor.
I explained this, Phil.
I had nothing else to do.
I thought, this is perfect.
It's biodegradable the feathers are.
I didn't leave the carcasses there.
Let's take a break.
I just find it funny.
I just find it funny that most people, like, when they have a little bit of time on their hand,
you know, they're looking at their Twitter or their Facebook or whatever.
Jace is cleaning game in the back of its truck.
The redneck world is something.
That is a bold redneck move.
See, I'm surprised by y'all's response.
I thought you would say that's as large.
This is rational.
It's time sensitive.
I thought it was a good thing.
I can't argue with the logic.
I actually cleaned the last dove when the pizzas came out.
I mean, it was absolutely perfect.
You were saving time.
I ate the pizza.
I watched the LSU game.
The doves are tucked away.
Everything was fine.
Did you ever eat the doves?
I'm eating the doves tonight.
Oh, okay, good.
I may need to drop by then because there's nothing better to me.
I killed eight.
So that means come later.
You didn't even get a full 11 of dubs.
I didn't.
I mean,
look,
didn't but about 30 come in there and we killed 20 of them.
Well,
that's not.
But I said,
well,
look,
I killed the most.
So I was thinking,
let's pool our doves.
But Reeves like,
no,
I'm eating these doves.
I mean,
he had his five or six there.
Yeah.
I was like,
I ain't ever a man for himself in.
I've been hungry for him ever since I saw a real tree yet.
Well,
people have gathered for the,
for the teal fest because we have a front coming in.
And so I'm predicting because Jay and Si, they headed south after today's hunt.
They're going to the marsh.
But we shot to.
To teal hunt?
Yeah, to teal hunt.
And they want a redfish.
But I'm like, why would you leave when the greatest day is fixing to happen?
Because we have a major front coming in.
I say major.
For here, when it drops 20 degrees, that's major.
Yeah, especially this time of year.
I mean, this morning, the temperature was, what, 73?
Well, Wednesday morning, today's Monday, it's going to be 53.
Yeah.
And so I'm telling you, they're coming.
And it doesn't take much to move to you, a little bit of the way.
They're going to push them.
They're coming.
So I guess what Jay said, he said, you're trying to use that fomo on me, the fear of missing out.
I was like, no, you're going to miss out.
So I tried to bet him $100 that we're going to full limit in the next two days.
But he wouldn't take that.
He wouldn't take the bat.
He said, him and Sire going to the mall.
He said, I know we're going to get him down there.
Well, that's true.
They're everywhere down there.
So I get a text last night.
It was funny.
And from a friend of mine in Houston, but he was in the Dallas airport.
He sends him a picture and says, do you know this guy?
And it was Sye in the Dallas airport, but he was laid out under some chairs.
Sleeping?
Sleeping.
I've seen him do it many times.
And I said, I got to think about it.
I said, I guess it's his military background.
You know, those guys, military, you've got to catch some winks.
No, it's not that.
It's a size.
So he's like a roller coaster.
He's either way up or way down.
Where did he go?
He was coming from somewhere.
I think he did an event.
So I texted, I sent the picture to Phillip.
I said, are you a sigh?
Because people now are sending me pictures of Sai in the airport.
And then he sent me a picture of him from his band is right on top of him.
So I was laying there.
he's got his tea next to him.
And he said, yeah, we're stuck here.
I guess they got stuck because of weather.
I've been on a plane before with Sa.
And he just, he slept so hard that he's snoring so loud that everybody on the plane was like,
there's a guy, I mean, he can sleep.
He slept through.
We went to Minnesota to do an event.
And we were having trouble.
I could tell we got up to that point where we should have, it was on a private jet.
But we got to that point where we should have just took on off.
but all of a sudden we're not taking on off.
And I was like, I'm looking, I'm watching up front.
It was like something's happening here.
And the guy that owns the charter service was actually on the plane with us
because this was the first time they're taking this jet out.
And so he goes up there and they're having a little conference, you know.
While it's in flight?
While we're in flight.
We just took a mountain man, me, sigh, and Lisa.
And so Bullet comes back there and he was like,
we've got some kind of issue with the thing.
I think we're going to have to divert and land an eye.
well we were coming from Minnesota.
And so size of...
You should have got Mountain Man work on.
He's...
That's what he does.
I don't want Mount Man working on anything where my life depends on themselves.
No, he'd be fine as long as you don't try to get him to do it in a hurry.
That's right.
So anyway, so Sae's sleeping through the whole thing.
So we go along for a little bit and so I thought, okay, I guess we're fixing a land.
And then all of a sudden, then we take on all.
And they go back up.
I have another hudder.
He comes back and says, well, we're all good.
and I was like, all right.
So, Sal wakes up about an hour into the deal there, the 45 minutes.
I said, say, you missed all the excitement.
We thought we were going to divert to Iowa.
He went, hmm.
That was it.
I love to know what Mountain Man did.
Mount Man never stopped talking.
He was sitting next to me, and, you know, I don't get to see Mountain Man a lot.
So it was just, he talked the entire time.
That's nightmare.
Oh, Mountland.
all right what are we talking about today that was nonsensical but it was a busy weekend it was
um yeah and i was i just got back in town and you preach i came and i preached yesterday i preached
matthew three and four you are behind from the podcast yeah i know we got to catch up on our
preaching which i'm hoping we're going to get there with the now that we're into the sir where are we
at we're in matthew six is where we are okay preaching wise we only got just got to five but i found out
that our old pal
Mac Owen is going to be
here in a couple of weeks and preaching at WFR.
They're having a big like 20
year CR. And we've been doing CR
for 20 years now. And Mack
started it. So he's coming back
and we've hired
a couple new guys to run it.
And so Max's going to kind of coronate
the situation. So he's going to be in town
and preach, which will be fun.
So I'm working on dad. I'm working on, I want
you to preach. And I'm
just telling Dad this on the podcast.
It's kind of funny.
When we get to Matthew 13, I want you to preach at WFR on the parable of the soar.
Yeah, he's got good on that one.
So I've been kind of wanting you get back at WFR because everybody misses you.
Like, you're doing your work across the river.
But everybody's like, where's Phil?
Where's that?
So we've got to get him in on preaching.
So I think it'll be good.
So we're in Matthew 6, Jays.
All right.
We're on the sermon on the Mount.
We thought Zach was coming in.
Did he ever come in, John?
nothing.
Zach is, I mean...
He's technically challenged.
So we'll see if he should.
Well, I had a thought about this, this Matthew 6.
This might be a good lesson for you.
It may be a little cheesy.
But these actually, these three things, giving to the needy, prayer, fasting,
he uses the same term.
Well, he uses two phrases over and over in each illustration.
He says, your father who says,
sees what is done in secret will reward you then i think it also says the father who is unseen
yeah verse that's in verse six yeah so same thing so yeah so yeah then your father who sees what is done
in secret reward you that's a verse four then verse six when you pray go into your room close the door
and pray to your father who is unseen then your father who is unseen then your father who sees what is done
in secret will reward you, then 18.
18.
Same thing.
When you fast, but fast so only to your father who is unseen and your father who sees what
is done in secret will reward you.
I mean, usually when a Bible repeats itself over and over and he's using these illustrations.
He's trying to make a point here.
So actually, I thought about, you know, the secret agent world.
in our world.
When you think of secret agent,
you think of these,
which I like movies.
It's interesting that he said,
when you pray,
do not keep on babbling like pagans.
Yeah.
For they think they will be heard
because of their many words.
What he was saying is,
don't do that.
Yeah.
But it comes down to a heart.
They weren't really praying.
Right.
It was just a show.
They were speaking.
to be heard.
But they also are saying that God doesn't see what's going on in my head.
Yeah.
Because he knows that you're just babbling so people will say, oh, boy, this guy is so talented.
He can.
Well, hadn't you seen that before?
Let's take another break.
Had you seen that before, like with politicians, you'll see a guy get up and they'll go
into their stump speech and their stuff's flowing out of their mouth and you're listening,
but you're realizing they don't really mean anything they're saying.
It's just that's the speech that's the speech that some consultants and people have said this is what you need to say.
And that's the way it is if you're praying and you're not really speaking to God,
but you're just doing it for the pleasure of your audience.
I mean, you could memorize the Bible and be as lost as a geese.
Yeah.
You remember Jason?
We had a guy preached years ago, and he was impressive.
Like, he like, he knew a lot of, he just quoted scripture.
scripture he was preaching and he went for like an hour and when he got through i thought well
that was impressive that he knew a lot of scripture but i don't know what he was talking like
there was never a point years ago i hear people like that all the time and i was listening and you
you told me ah there's that he just piped in i heard everything you heard everything you were saying
about me yeah early bird only 26 minutes into the podcast you missed my dove bird story
Actually, yeah, everything you missed was no good anyway.
So here's what I think.
Say again?
I said, I did hear you talking about me, though.
Somebody said I was technically challenged.
Was that you, Jason?
I said that.
I heard all that.
Is that not true?
Well, we had a technical challenge this morning, so it's true.
Thank you.
I call it like I see it.
There's no sugar code.
So here's what I think.
The Kitty podcast is down the street.
And I'll interject this.
It's called the Duck Car Room.
interject this after in lieu of reading Matthew 5, which we covered, salt and light, the
beatitudes, assault and light, murder, fulfillment of the law, divorce those, and then you
get into chapter 6. Here's what occurred to me. If you, if you listen to what the
Apostle Paul later on was saying, when Jesus was talking to these people,
He's talking to people who have been under a strict code law for 1,500 years.
Now, you talk about churches, you know, and they come up with their old habits and they form these creeds.
Just think about 1,500 years being under a code of law.
Two little things stood out to me.
When the Apostle Paul is talking and he gets to Galilee,
chapter 5 he's talking to the church at Galatia he talked about the acts of the sinful nature
that's verse 19 in about 20 he gets to 22 the fruit of the spirit is love now you're talking to
lawkeepers who've been under law over here when Jesus is talking for 1,500 years but the
fruit of the spirit is love joy peace page
kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.
If you take, you read the beatitudes, and then you read this right here, but there's one
little statement at the end of that.
He says, against such things, there is no law.
The people Jesus was talking to, that was the problem.
And he was saying, so what's he trying to tell them?
What he's trying to tell them is it's fake.
And then you read Romans 13, let no debt remain outstanding except the continuing debt to love one another.
It's interesting that in the beatitudes, not one word about love, you would think,
our Father in heaven, I'll be your name the kingdom that will be done in chapter five.
Those who mourn, they are poor in spirit, they are hung in thirst for righteousness, they are merciful.
they're loving.
But it goes without saying,
you say,
you won't be that way
if you're devoid of love
for God and your neighbor.
So when it gets to 13,
the little caveat comes up again.
Love does no harm to its neighbor.
Well, that's the beatitudes
and the sermon on the Mount.
Right.
You said that's his point.
But he's talking to lawkeepers
thinking they're saved by a code,
and you understand why they're sitting there
saying,
what we missed. Jesus is saying, you missed it all.
If you go down the road, if you stay on that road,
he's showing them how it's supposed to be by watching him
and how they should be.
And he ends up by saying, therefore,
just like the Apostle Paul in Glacens 5,
he says, love is the fulfillment of the law.
So all these things you see in the Beatitudes
and the sermon on the Mount
and all of these things about, look, you've heard it said,
you've heard it said, they're lawkeepers.
And that's the way they viewed it.
He says, it's not deep enough.
It's not from your heart.
You have to have a change of heart in order to be like this.
And above it, and the thing that stands out,
you must love your brother.
That's what he's saying.
Yeah.
You know, call it meek, search for rights into doing this.
But he's really saying, learn how to love each other.
And to this day, that is the most destructive force in all of humanity, the lack of love for God and their neighbor, which is why they're the greatest commands in the Bible.
I just thought I'd interject that.
No, I think you're right, Dad.
And to prove that point, I wasn't here when Zach was hosting the podcast when y'all were talking about John the Baptist back in Matthew 3.
but you remember John the Baptist is preaching this message to repent the kingdom of heaven.
People are being baptized.
I mean, it's an exciting time.
And all of a sudden, these people that Jesus is addressing, they walk up mainly to see what's going on to see if they approve what John is doing.
And he turns on them and says, you a brood of vipers who warned you of the coming.
So they're just, just the fact of the way they live their lives, would, it.
irritated John the Bavits to the point that he just hammers them.
Yeah.
You know, when he first sees it.
And you'd think as a preacher, you'd be like, well, do you not care about these people?
Wouldn't you try to reach them?
But he's like, no, you're false, you're hypocrites.
The love of God and his mercy and his grace, it's unknown to it.
It's keep the code, and they were claiming they were keeping it.
But Jesus said, not one of you ever kept it.
Well, they can't keep the code.
I think that's the big dichotomy here is.
that you got one side, the law, which is basically based on what you can do.
Yep.
Well, you mentioned that Galatians 5 passage.
I always point this out because it's, I mean, I think it's important that it is called
the fruit of the spirit.
Correct.
It's not our fruit.
Now, we submit to the spirit, but we're not conjuring up these things in our life.
And I think anybody, if I, for example, if I said, hey, you need to just not, you just need to be
patient. Well, how in the heck do I conjure up patience? You need to have joy. You can't conjure
these things up. These are works of the spirit in us. He produces them. All we do is submit.
So the life by the law is a man produced works and salvation or whatever it is, which is not
going to happen, which leads to all the virtue signaling and the pharisaical, look at me,
look at me, look at me. And then the other side is a submission to the spirit. It's an admission
that I can't do it, but Jesus did do it on the cross.
and by the spirit, he produces these things in me.
And they didn't have the spirit indwelling them when they were under law,
which it begins to make sense.
They needed some more help that they were getting.
You see what I'm saying now?
It's just the whole point of Jesus coming.
Let's take a break.
Joe, you got something.
Well, to get back to my secret agent point,
which is the exact opposite of what we think of secret agents,
we think of this action adventure and these, you know,
you're finding the crime and they make movies about this stuff.
When you look at what these guys were doing,
you know,
I put down here trumpets, street corners, and disfigured faces.
Because he led each section, like in chapter six,
he says,
when you give to the needy verse two,
do not announce it with trumpets.
You just think how much we do.
that. Like if you're doing a special calls or something, we got to Trump,
this is what we're doing. Well, then he says in the next section, when you pray,
don't go out on the street corner to be seen by men. Then he gets to the fast and he's like,
don't disfigure your faces to show men that that you're fasting.
It's all fake, fake. Well, but it's done to please people or elicit sympathy.
You know, you're like, oh, you poor thing. It's a,
attention from other people. And it made me think about this verse in Galatians 110 that says,
am I now trying to win the approval of men or of God? I think that's a question a person,
a disciple of Jesus, should ask himself. Which ties in with the fruit of the spirit.
Every day. He should ask that, am I, what, am I trying to win the approval of people or of God?
Just think if you applied that to a cell phone and to young people.
Are you trying to win God's approval or people?
I mean, would it change how you operate on the cell phone?
Obviously it would.
Then he says, or am I trying to please men?
Now, there's a profound statement, this next one.
If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ.
And to me, that's why I was going with that.
was that? That's Galatians 1-10. But that's where I was going with that secret agent. It's
your God's secret agent. He sees what's done in secret. A lot of times people may not even think
you just came out of a closet praying or that you hadn't eaten in, you know, 30 hours.
Because we can't help it. When we do something, we want to tell people like, hey, yeah,
we're fixed to do this or that. Because you've got to ask yourself, God knows. He knows my heart. He
knows what I'm doing. I think that's what he was trying to.
to say in this, but it's an easy thing to hear. It's hard to put in a practice.
And you're right. People tend to brag. It's one of my favorite lines from a movie. It's from a
movie called Broadcast News. And there was a, there were journalists. It was kind of an inside
look at like if you were looking behind the scenes at CBS or one of those. It was a really
well done movie. But one of the reporters who just couldn't, he was really good at his job,
but he just didn't have the camera presence. And he's talking to,
William Hurt, this broadcaster who, you know, didn't know anything about journalism,
but he had the look.
He had the twinkle in his eye when he looked at the camera.
He had all the fake stuff that gets you on television news.
And so this guy who's he's so jealous because he's like, oh, this guy, like, he's just
falling into being this main anchor, and he doesn't even know what he's talking about.
And so the William Hurt character looks at the other guy, and he says, what do you do when
your life exceeds your dream?
which think about that question.
He's like,
you know,
my life is so good.
Like,
what do you do?
And the guys said back to me,
he said,
keep it to yourself.
It's such a good line because it's like,
we don't want to hear about how good you are.
We know you've fallen into this position.
You're,
you know,
everybody's loving you.
You and I know,
you don't know what you're doing.
And so I think about that,
when I think about this text,
it's like people that have an appearance,
but really,
really, everybody knows. For sure, Jesus knew when he's talking to, John the Baptist knew,
because he calls them out. And really, the other people knew too. But then at the same time,
there's like, well, I guess that's what we're supposed to be like is a trial. There's a lot of
there's like cultural pressure, I think, that comes. I think this is, the equivalent to Matthew 6 in
2021 is the virtue signaling. It's the same thing that these guys were doing. We're going to signal
that we have all this virtuous life, but we really don't.
And you see it on social media a lot of glad Jace brought up what we're doing our cell phone
because when our avatars on social media are having these big debates,
and it's one continual, like, it's just, it's phariseical.
It's look at me, how virtuous I am, and the word of the gospel,
that's why I think the gospel is so applicable today, because more than ever,
because the gospel puts you on your face before a holy God,
because it says you don't have anything to bring to the table.
The gospel has a way of crumbling our pride
and putting us into a posture of humility.
And I think in 2021, what would be very disruptive
is if we did have that posture of humility.
And what I think is interesting about Matthew 6
is right smack dab in the middle of all this virtue saving from the Pharisees.
If you look at verse 14, this is why it matters.
because he says if you forgive others for their transgressions,
your Heavenly Father will forgive you also.
But if you do not forgive others,
then your Heavenly Father will not forgive you of your transgressions.
And it's funny to me that when we posture ourselves up,
and as Phil said, we're faking it,
it is interesting to me that that leads to an unforgiving heart of other people.
No doubt about it.
Because we postured ourselves up as if we're something that we're not,
and that's when we treat everybody else harshly,
and we don't have a posture of forgiveness,
where if we were to humble ourselves and realize that only that's only accomplished through Christ,
it puts me in a posture now where I got to forget people because I'm looking at what I did
and what I continue to do.
They quickly, they quickly condemn.
Yeah.
Well, that's the tenant, right, of the legalist is you don't have any room for forgiveness
because you're tallying up the score of what people are doing wrong.
Let's take our last break.
Yeah, it's the modern equivalent.
the virtue signaling is the modern equivalent of the Pharisees,
and the cancel culture is the result of what happens
when we live in a culture of virtue signallers,
just like the Pharisees.
They were condemning everybody.
Well, same thing today.
Everybody's condemned.
What's the council culture?
You'll have to read Phil's new buck on that, Jase.
Uncanceled.
Coming out February 8th.
They're quick to pass judgment from people who might have sinned,
possibly 200 years ago.
Well, everybody's sinned.
So they dream it up and they say for that sin, we will tear what left your statue down
and we will hate you the rest of your life because of what you did here.
There is no forgiveness, none.
None.
Just condemnation.
The little boy that was on American Idol, they found a picture of him when he was like 12 years old
and a guy in the picture with him had on a hood.
I don't know the whole story, but I think that it was about a, I've mentioned this on the podcast before.
was a, they were, they were reenacting a movie called The Strangers, but somebody said that
that hood could look like a KKK costume, so they canceled, they kicked him off American
IACOS, he was in a picture with a guy who had on something that could look like, and it's just
like, you turn around, every, I mean, you say something 10 years ago and you're done, like,
it doesn't matter.
Zach, the guy from Jeopardy.
So he was, he was taking over Jeopardy for Alex Trebek, but they found a podcast he did about
12 years ago, and I had even heard it. I don't know what he said, but he said something on the
podcast that the group didn't like, and they canceled him. Like now, not only does he not get to
host Jeopardy, they fired him, and he doesn't even, he was an executive producer of Jeopardy for
all these years. That's the mind of the Pharisees. That's it. That's it. That's exactly right.
His replacement. His replacement almost got canceled. The girl from, um, what was she on?
Oh yeah. She was on Big Bang theory. Yeah. And, and so.
There's a show name Big Bang Theory.
Are you kidding me?
And you watched it?
Says the man who cleaned doves
and the Johnny Speeds a parking lot.
No, I've been serious.
There is a show called,
and it was a huge hit, Jay's by the way.
Well, how'd I miss that?
Joshy.
Jason, he hadn't heard of Cancer Culture.
He hadn't heard a Big Bang Theory.
Well, I'd heard Council Culture.
I just couldn't remember what the deal was.
But I hadn't heard that there was a show called The Big Bang Theory.
I mean, it seemed like that when it came up.
It was about a bunch of...
It was all about the bang and how...
Well, it was a bunch of nerds.
They were like nerd scientists.
Oh, they figured out the bang.
Well, I guess so.
Did they answer how the chicken...
I never watched the show.
Did they answer how the chicken got here?
That's all I want to know.
I don't know if they ever did.
So, Zach, I was curious.
So do you think this...
We were talking about this idea about people being fake, and it just hit me.
there's like the new shows
I'm just seeing, you know, you watch a ballgame
or something, you see these new shows. So
the current reality trend,
I mean, one time we were a reality trend,
but...
Hey, we're coming back. We're coming back, that's right.
I'll give you a report on that at another time.
We're coming back with Treasure Hunt. So,
like the show, the mass singer,
which is popular.
And how you are talking about stuff, I've never heard that.
And then you got another one now that, you said Avatar.
I mean, it goes, what made me think about it?
So now you got another one coming out where
they're singers, they're singing, but it's avatars.
They're like, it's not real people.
What's an avatar, Al?
It's like a representation of you, but it's like an animated creature or something.
Like a cartoon.
Like cartoon.
So, but now that's real popular.
Do you think that is linking into this societal thing about this because everything's so fake?
Because every time I'm in a restaurant.
I was in Pittsburgh last weekend, a couple weekends ago.
I'm looking out the window of this restaurant I'm eating.
And I'm watching three.
teenage girls taking pictures of each other on the sidewalk.
Wow, you can see that on every street corner in America.
Right.
But they were doing...
There were people taking pictures of me of those dust.
I'm sure someone out there has a picture of me cleaning dogs.
But that's because you're a curiosity.
They were doing it because they were like...
The poses they were doing.
I was watching it and I just thought, what did they do it?
And then I realized all these are going to go on Instagram or whatever, social
media.
and I just thought it's also, it seems so fake to me.
So, I mean, is that why these things are popular, do you think?
Because we're just kind of in a fake society now, people wear a mask?
I don't think it just happened.
I just think it's a different way to, I mean, I think like the plastic surgery market has been on the upswing in the last 20, 30 year.
I mean, it's the same concept because you look around and say, oh, I'm getting old.
And they're like, well, if you pay somebody, they can do some yanking and some tugging.
and you won't look like that.
Once you take Jesus out of the,
out of the premises,
once you reject Jesus and his teachings,
you therefore have no excuse,
you who pass judgment on someone else,
for at whatever point you judge the other,
you're condemning yourself
because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Yep, well, right.
That goes back to that Galatian,
one I read. If you were trying to please people only, you and me following Jesus,
there's the difference. I mean, that's why I brought that up. Yeah, you can't. I think the
marked that way. Yeah, the social media thing, yeah, I think that's right out. I think people are,
I mean, we do live in a very fake culture to the point where now I think everybody even knows
that it's fake and then it comes like a like the matrix kind of or that maybe inception where
there's like different layers to like to the to it.
And I think we everybody knows it's fake,
but we still participate in it.
Kind of like that story, the emperor's clothes,
you know, the, the emperor pretending like nobody,
everybody's wearing clothes, but they weren't.
Yeah.
And everybody knew that they weren't wearing clothes,
but then they acted like they were because they wouldn't,
they didn't want to, you know,
offend the emperor and then the whole,
this whole society basically emerges.
I think that's kind of where we're at.
But I also see like gaps in it.
This is why I get excited because I always see gaps for the,
kingdom. And so I think that people are, I think we push so far with, with this virtual world and the
cancel culture and the virtue signaling that the weight now is so overwhelming that nobody can
carry it, which is great for us as kingdom people, because we actually have a solution that you
don't have to carry it. In fact, we're saying, yeah, we're all fake, I'm fake, you're fake,
let's repent, let's turn to the living God, and let's cast all.
our burdens on him. So I think we're actually prime for revival. I really do. I think that because
people cannot carry the weight of what the society has put on them. But you have to focus on
Jesus because you're not going to fix the world's problems through argumentation or that's not going
to happen. I mean, I think that's why basically when you read Romans first three chapters,
it's real depressing. But he did start off six times saying, I got good news.
and I'm not ashamed of the gospel because it's the power of God.
And then he basically showed you what happens when a culture deteriorates and loses their
moral compass and doesn't give glory to God.
And God is allowing it to happen.
So us as humans will realize how bad a shape we're in.
You read Matthew chapter 5, 6, and 7.
And the last thing you'll come up with is you must go to church.
that you just wouldn't say it like that.
It's far deeper than that.
Well, your life, wherever you are,
you are a worshipper of the Almighty,
and your trust is in Jesus.
But we're living in a culture where if you say
go to the church of your choice or whatever,
you know, that'll be fine.
But if you, like, do a YouTube video
and you read Romans chapter 1, just read it.
That's going to be on there about five minutes,
and somebody's going to take that off.
That's correct.
That's why I was asking what canceled.
That's the bigger issue.
They're going to cancel the reading of that because they would say that that was mean and judgmental.
Well, see, and I preached just about the temptation of Jesus by the evil one.
And I hadn't really thought about it before until I preached it this last time.
But I don't think it was an accident that Satan took Jesus to the highest point of the temple
and read scripture to him and challenged him to throw himself down.
The idea was, is this is the most holy place.
you know, if you're really the son of God, why don't you do this?
And so I think that's a challenge to exactly what you're talking about now,
that people think the appearance of being at a place is enough when you haven't submitted to Christ.
Oh, I agree.
And it's kind of socially acceptable.
But that's why I'm saying.
But a lot of people, they read Romans 1 and it would get canceled.
But if you get to, you're like, just let me get to chapter 3 and verse 20.
And it's all going to make sense.
Hang on.
Hang in there.
Let me get there.
It'll work. Give it time.
Yeah, I was thinking of that Romans 5,
because we're talking about where sin is increased,
particularly in the tech sphere,
cancer culture, you know, all that stuff.
It's monitoring on YouTube, the censorship.
But I'm always reminded that where sin increases,
Paul says grace increases all the more.
And it's interesting how that works.
Like what we're doing here,
we're using the same technology.
Now, yeah, we get sensuals, by the way, that's why you got to leave comments on our iTunes,
on the iTunes app, make sure that you guys are liking us on Facebook and on Instagram and YouTube.
When you do that, it helps us in the algorithm, by the way.
So if you want to believe in what we're doing here, then that's how you help.
But we're helping, people are hearing the gospel.
I had this preacher.
A lady reached out to me probably six months ago, listen to the podcast, and she wanted to be baptized.
And she was going to drive up here to be baptized because she lives like two hours.
but I felt like she needed to be engaged in a church.
So I found a local church called the pastor.
He said, yeah, I'll study with her.
And so he's, I never heard anything else about it.
I gave her, I gave her his cell phone.
He texts me this week, such a cool story,
and said that she, six months ago that he connected with her,
she was baptized, her entire family started coming to the church.
He said, they're all on fire for Jesus and said,
the whole family's here, multi-generational difference here.
because of what we're doing.
And so I love that because he said,
you guys are doing kingdom work.
So she, she's doing it.
She sees the kingdom outside of the bill,
but she's meeting with a body of believers
and being disciples.
So what God, what the devil may want to take
and use for his kingdom,
God's redeeming that for his kingdom.
Does that make sense?
That's good.
I love it.
All right, we're out of time.
Zach, you're going to hang with us
and be here for the next podcast?
Yep, I'll be here.
All right, perfect.
Let's see you next time.
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