Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 351 | Miss Kay Is Obsessed with Fantasy Football & Missy Says Jase Makes Bad Financial Decisions

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

Miss Kay is a hard-core fan of fantasy football. Zach and Al find college football the wildest pastime — especially when your rival sleeps next to you. Missy thinks Jase doesn't make sound financial decisions. Phil and Jase spot the largest rat they've ever seen in the Lair. Jase is floored by the exorbitant cost of purses when a plastic bag would do the trick. Zach highlights the futility and frustration of a human-centered life that doesn't acknowledge the sovereignty of God. And Jase encourages people to use a mirror instead of a magnifying glass when they decide to judge someone. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? The story is so nice, you tell it twice. So Zach is with us. Hopefully we got him for the whole time, although he'll probably flame out at some point. But I thought about you, Zach, because I'm watching college football on Saturday,

and the big game of the week was Alabama at Florida. And so for our listeners, I don't know, we've probably said this, but all the dashers, they grew up in Gainesville, Florida. They're obviously Gator fans. And I guess Gordon is a alumni, right? He graduated from... He did. He graduated from U.F.

From U.F. And so they, you know, and they, Jan was an LSU fan when she left Louisiana, but through peer pressure and time, she became a huge gator fan. And so I forgave her because she was such a wonderful woman. But so they loved the gators. But Zach, in the karma of, I guess it's karma for me, he marries a woman, Jill, who's been on our podcast, that is a huge Alabama fan. Uh-oh. I mean, hardcore. And so I guess is there a whole family Alabama fans say?

They are. I mean, it's borderline idolatry. I mean, it really is. So it's funny because Zach's kids are just a mishmash. you've got like Bear who's named after Bear Bryant so duh he has to be an Alabama fan

and he is he loves him and then you've got I don't know is Fred a Gator fan Fred's a Florida fan Layla's a Florida fan but then Max my favorite in the family is an LSU fan

because he spent his form of beers here in Louisiana he loves the Tigers so it's really y'all y'all bought him you send him merchandise which like you're kind of like an influence with a bad way on him

you corrupts So when they won the national championship, I sent Max a big box full of stuff you could only get here, you know, with national championships. So I definitely am in stoking that fire. I think winning tends to take care of those things. Right. You know, I mean, Alabama's king of the world. Well, LSU, I mean, two years ago, Florida, been a while. It's been a while.

It's been a while. Been a while. But so I'm watching the game, Zach, and I'm imagining being in your house because I could. I couldn't imagine being married to a woman. You know, I'm married to a woman that doesn't care about any of it. Ditto. But I can't imagine being married to a woman that, like, loves the team that, you know, that you're playing against as much as you love your team. So describe to us what happened on Saturday.

Florida lost the game by an extra, they missed an extra point that cost them the game. I mean, that's the bottom line. We actually went to the game. So we were there? Do you take your bottom? Really? I did not take my Bible. Well, I would have recommended that.

It was wild, man. It was a party for sure. Go in unarmed in that environment. There was a hundred thousand people. Are you kidding me? Oh, it was insane. Were you the only sober people there? Well, there's a few others in honest.

But there was a lot of Bama fans there. Yeah, we had a good time. But yeah, it's annoying, you know, the way Chil could axe and, conducts herself as it's not godly for sure. You know, what do you do? I'll be honest with you.

Alabama fan, I better not say anything, guys. We got, we got fans in Alabama. That's right. I'm just telling you, though, like it's a whole,

and it's a whole other level. It may be because they're so good right now, too, that it's like you, you know, it's like the big kid on the block and they just, they beat everybody,

and it's like, oh, it's so annoying. And Jill's just sitting there smug the whole time. I thought we were going to win. So you went all in, didn't you? You went for it. I went all in.

I went full ball trash talking. But Sabin himself says when you reach the top of the mountain, you are the mountain. That's true. He said that? Yeah, that's what he's saying. Well, I tell you, I think we need some humble pie. The best shirt that I saw there, though, was it said, not today, Sabin. That was the best shirt.

Not today, Sabin. That is funny. I had no idea that you were at the game because I was imagining y'all watching it at your house, but that's even more awesome. And Jill was with you at the game? It was me, Jill. A whole family went.

We got tickets for dad for his birthday. Oh, that's awesome. And so we went down to our old stomper ground. I went to my homecoming high school football game on Friday night. That was pretty cool. You're talking about bringing it back, man. Exactly. You were a high school star.

You were quite the player back in the day. I wasn't that good But you know I like to think I was But I would say I would agree with you Except for I know that people back home Listen to this podcast And they say no you weren't

So we're gonna I'm gonna get emails now Based on that comment That's funny Well it was I mean it really is That's the fun part of college football though It really is great Because no matter

And it's ironic for me Because I've bought property in Alabama So I'm surrounded now by either Auburn or Alabama for everybody. And, you know, so I get grief everywhere I go when I wear LSU stuff. So it's like, you know, but it's fun because that's the fun part of. You need to give them a message because, look, LSU look much improved after the third game. And I was kidding about my wife. She does support Louisiana sports.

So she was in there hollering the other night. But he wanted you to, he wanted to send you a message at Coach O. you know what it is what's that no I don't we're coming we're coming go tagging I'm not worried about LSU I'll be honest with you

wouldn't look great well I have to say go ahead I mean I'll tell you another I'll tell you another thing too that that that place was packed it was I got a little teary-eyed because it was the first time

that I've been in a setting that it felt like normal you're talking about 90-something thousand people they didn't they're like man we're living life we sang the old Tom Petty song. You know, we did the, we are the boys from Florida.

It was like, I grew up going to these games. So there was a lot of nostalgic memories that kind of came flooded back. And it was nice to see people just living and just doing life. But you know, it's funny is that you're right. And the internet was just full of it because I was, I was following it on social media, Saturday and Sunday, showing a ton of crowds across the college landscape. And it was really amazing because, I mean, people come together. They like football.

But there was definitely something more. Like people were singing songs. I mean, like they were showing, it was A&M and then up in Penn State. They were singing all these songs together. I mean, it was inspiring. I was like you, I got chills. I think Zach is right, though. It's just kind of that feeling of it.

We're Americans. What struck me is when this right here becomes an issue. You're giving the universal image of money. I said you're thinking because I just looked at, what does it cost to get in the stadium? I'd love to know. Zach. Well, I think we paid about a hundred. $150 to $200 a ticket.

Per ticket? Per ticket? Boy, you must be loaded. So when you got... Zack has got money. So when you got 80,90,000... What's 90,000, 100,000? I'm on it.

It's a lot. But we saved up for the trip, first of all. Oh, you saved. I'll tell you this, that we could have sold the tickets for 500. I looked on Stubhubbub right before the game, so... I would have done that. That's 18 million. That's what I'm saying.

So when it gets to money, forget the mask. Money, our mask. Mask, money, money, mask. Let's go with the money. Last year, college football, I think the SEC had a 25% capacity rule for most of the season. But it just, it was terrible. It would be like playing in front of a terrible audience. you know, because, and so nobody could get into it.

I mean, last season, none of the guys wanted to turn flips in the end zone. No, you didn't see any excitement, you know? And then there, look, I'm telling you, the fans there made a difference in the game. And what's, I think when we had that 2020 ride where everybody was isolated.

And not only that, you also have a movement to erase every part of the past, everything. It was just nice to sit there and, and be able to have traditions and remember all these things that brought people together of all different stripes, colors, crees. Yeah, I mean, traditions are not bad.

They're actually part of what make a culture. So it was kind of, for me, it was just like, man, if something's different in Florida, I'll tell you that right now, they're just kind of doing their thing. And it was fun, it was fun to be there. But you got to remember, they did lose. Thanks, Jess. It was great, almost.

I mean, it's, I feel like you think y'all won. Okay, but you're off. I'm having a moment here, okay, but I will tell you, but I do think we're going to play again in Atlanta, and I think that Florida's, I think, well, I think we think we did. You know, it's interesting because Alabama, as with everybody, including LSU, has had the better of everybody lately. But when you look back at their record, Zach,

when the SEC championship record, they're just right there neck and neck. I mean, Florida was successful, more of the Tebow pre-era, but they've looked good against them the last two times. The championship game this last year, I mean, that was probably the best game Alabama had all year. And then, of course, they really, I mean, if you guys get that extra point, which is really funny because Alabama's been so successful,

what they've managed to do is have the whole country now is against them. So even me, because I have no love for Florida. But, I mean, I was just short of doing the chomp, you know, Saturday because I was pulling for him so hard because I'm like, you know, I'm tired of. Alabama win it. I didn't watch it. You didn't watch it, uh?

No. Were you at the baby shower? I was actually shooting dust. I did check on the score. Jayce couldn't watch the game because they had a baby shower together. It's there five minutes. And when I walked in, my first inclination was to run. But I didn't know where I was.

Sports fans are cheering and Jace is picking dubs in front of a pizza hut. Y'all keep bringing us up. You need to get a... out more. I'm trying to make this world a better place. And people will buy pizza and since they didn't see the process, they'll eat

anything on it. But if someone is showing you the process, pick the doves. Pick the doves. They're better without the feathers. That's my message for today. I'll say this. I've said in the parking lot if you guys, been on the phone and whatnot, I've never had somebody, an employee from a restaurant, come

out and ask me what I was doing. Yeah. It's a strange. man doing something strange. It looked like he's... That's never happened to me. He's handling dead birds. He's a whack-out. I didn't realize that we were going to be talking about this story for days.

This is now bled over into the next podcast. I do want to mention one more thing before we leave football because I think it's interesting, Dad. Your wife, her mom, Ms. Kaye, is she is a true fanatic. The fan is a fan is what it's short for. I woke up to get a cup of coffee. this morning and I left the ball game early because I was getting up at 4.30 in the morning and there was a note there in front of the coffee pot and she said down to the wire and she said I

had nobody to celebrate this with you know my home my home's he lost but he you know if it been out they actually won. No the Baltimore pulled out is what my top was I saying she said you missed the greatest game She had a note that long, you know. Yeah. She said, I love you, but you really missed out last night. So I'm on the phone with her last night, and she's doing play-by-play. I mean, we're both watching the game.

And so Mom's giving me her commentary along with Al Michaels and, you know, the other guy. And so I was like, okay, Mom, I let you go. I'm just going to watch the game now. But when I got here this morning, I came in, she said, did you watch the end of that game? First thing he said, I said, no, I went to sleep. or turned it on something different. It hadn't been just like gung-ho NFL these days. But I said, I missed it.

And I said, Kansas City won because they were up pretty big when I turned it over. And she was like, no. And then she goes right back into play-by-play. But she said, I couldn't sleep last night. I started to wake your daddy up just to tell. I said, well, I'm glad you didn't do that. She got all fired up about that one. So.

I said, last time I was at your house, I looked down on the stool. and she's got four fantasy football magazines. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, so I didn't realize she plays fantasy football. She's in a league. She's in more than one league. I mean, that's just funny to me. She's hardcore, which is funny because mom never paid attention to sports when we were

growing up, but it's kind of a later in life thing or something. We have to have her back on the podcast and have her tell us about it because it's pretty funny. Let's take a break. Well, she was excited this morning, that's for sure, which I thought was pretty good. So we're in Matthew chapter 6. Last time we talked about sort of the, I guess you would call it the God relationship kind of section of this, the idea of giving and prayer and fasting. And we kind of showed the difference between a legalist, which is who he's kind of dealing with here,

versus someone who's not trying to bring attention to themselves, but it's a spiritual, godly person because they have a relationship with God, which, let's face it, you wouldn't really know, according to this, if you really had that sort of relationship, you wouldn't always even know that, right? I mean, it's, he's saying,

make it more private, less public, because he's dealing with people, I think, that we're making it only public. Well, that's what's kind of crazy. When you get to the end in chapter 28, he's basically saying go public. Yeah. But how you do it is in secret as far as your personal life.

I mean, if your secret life is contrary to the will of God, your public life for Jesus is not going to succeed. It'll fail. The American model overall fixed it. The theologians fixed it so that Sunday morning was, when you had church services. It's like the Super Bowl. And you said, well, let's see now.

We have Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday and Saturday. That pretty well tells who you are instead of the Sunday morning when you met for two hours. I mean, you got 168 hours in a week. If two of them are designated for God and the other 166 are just, you know. I think you're right, Phil, they missed this point that what makes the kingdom of God the most powerful organization, function and body, however you want to describe it, that the world has ever known? Yeah. That the world is ever known in the history of the planet and the future is, one, you have spirit-filled people think that something you cannot see. You can see the fruit of the spirit, but you cannot see the spirit in secret places, homes, conversations,

conversations, coffee shops, where Jesus is being introduced and even down inside your mind and how you're praying and the sacrifices like when you think of something like fasting that you're doing because you believe that God reigns, that he's real and he rains and he's all knowing. And look, and what you're doing with your money, don't stir up. Distore up for yourself's treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, where thieves break in and steal. Stow up for yourselves treasures in heaven. You get to looking at that concept out, and it's a doozy. Well, it says for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also, which is really a strange phrase.

It is. Where your treasure is. Work hard. You'll be blessed with wealth. plenty of tax for that. Well, there your heart will be. So it's almost like if you don't invest in something, then you won't treasure it.

Right, right, right. So, I mean, I'm a treasure hunter. And Murray, the guy who's taught me everything that I know about treasure hunting. You're a stock market man, but as the revenue flows, if and when it does. Yeah, but I care nothing about the money in, in the, the stock market. I know this is crazy. I'm one in a million. These people are trying to make money. I just like, I like the competition of, I like the game of the stock market. If you start focusing that it's real money, you would make, I think, emotional decisions, which would be bad.

Which a lot of people do. Have I made a lot of money on the stock market? Yes. But is that my motivation? no because I was content and happy with nothing. I've told my wife many times when she was frustrated and staring at the ceiling with a tear in her eyes, she's like, why don't you make financial better decisions? Like Willie, tried to promote me one time for more money, and I was like, no, I'm good. She was like, I've got all right.

What? I was like, well, I don't, I want to hunt. He's trying to get me to miss. hunting days for a price. What I do when I hunt is priceless. I'm not taking that bait. You know, he's brought up an interesting thing. You can get so absorbed with looker,

with the pursuit of wealth. You don't have time to fulfill the text that says, make it your ambition to live a quiet life and then to work hard with your hands. So you won't be dependent on anybody. Well, you know, you look at that. you say, well, you are wealthy in that you have your quiet life intact. Right.

And you're working hard. You know, and you're being blessed. Be satisfied with that instead of saying, oh, no, I just lost. And then you're devastated because you just lost this, the amount or that amount, playing the stock market or doing anything. You've got to be made a bad deal. So. I'm not really playing the market fit.

It's just, it is structured as a game. And you know me, I've always, I like games. I like competition. But I'll say this, I did some research for you. I didn't know I was going to do this. But the subject of money or possessions comes up more than you think. Quite a bit. In the Bible.

In fact, 16 of Jesus's 38 parables had something to do with money. Which, there's a message in there, Jase. Yeah. Look, if you, the entire. And many of them are very. capitalism based. Look, one out of every 10 verses in Matthew, Martin, Luke, and John addresses something to do with money or possessions.

I didn't know that. 10%. I knew it was a lot. Ironic. Ironic. Some of the legalists who say there has to be 10%, I'm all forgiven 10%, but don't try to make some code to say, not 9.

Not 9. 10. No, forget what the cheerful heart. Give as the hard term. And that has to be pre-tax, not post-ta. Pre-tax, brother. I've heard sermons before about, you know, when that percentage is. And I'm just listening, like, this is so unbiblical.

To show you a strange, let me give you a strange scenario. Well, I have some more stats. Okay, give me the same scenario. But let me just refresh your memory on this, which is pretty astounding. At White's Fair Road and then a little satellite church to where I am across the river. WFRA you. we don't pass the plate where we are. We don't pass to put your money in here.

We don't do that. Somebody said, well... Fintech. Yeah, I'm not being paid, so no money's going to me or Ms. Cal. Y'all have a Fintech system, ATM. Vimeo? Huh? Vimeo?

What is what are you talking about? I'm just saying... Well, how do you get the money? Now watch, let me give it. So you said, now, wait a minute, let me get this. I come to where y'all are meeting, and you're not going to have a plate that pass it by where I put money

and feel guilty if I don't or then worry about how much you're giving. We cut through all that. No ATM machine. No plate. We're not passing the plate. No money changing hands anywhere except from us to you

because we have a meal. I think they need to invest something or they won't think it's valuable. If you want to put some money, there's a box back at the back, ball, it's bolted to the floor. Charge on my dog. You couldn't get it out there with a bulldozer. So we say, if you want to give to God, you put money there, which I do.

We put money there. Well, White's Ferry Road got in touch with us, and they said, guess what? After we started that out, they started getting more than they were originally getting. Right out? That's right. So how do you figure that? Well, I think you're compelled. We don't pass a plate. And then they said, you're giving, especially from y'all, is up.

Yeah. Well, I said always you shouldn't. I'm just saying it's not about money. Well, and to your point, that's the, you guys are a small group of people. But Zach, when we were over into Robert Morris's church, which is a huge church in Dallas, doing a lot of great things, they have the same basic philosophy. They have, of course, their people are giving online, mostly in the app. But they've got boxes in the back. But, I mean, they're very generous.

and they do amazing work all around the world. Well, look, you got to remember. I mean, Jesus in chapter 6 of verse 2, he said, so when you give to the needy? He didn't say, if. Give or if you get when. I mean, because people who are hooked on Jesus and the love of God, that will then, in turn,

filter to people, the love of other people. That's why, look, prayer verses in the Bible over 500 verses, 500 on 3.5. faith. 2000 on money, possessions. Yeah. 2000. I just think it's because that's what people feel is powerful.

You have, that's why he gets to the end of verse 24 and says, Hey, let's take a break before he read that. He says, no one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he'll be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money,

which I can't believe they capitalize money in this. I know. Why'd they do that? I don't know. Well, think about this, it's, it's, we've heard it say, but people say that money's the root of all evil, but it's, it's the love of money that is the root of all kinds of evil. So it's, money is not the problem. It's the, it's the love and obsession with money because we think that money leads to power. But I love this, the way the imagery here about this, don't, don't store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moths and rust destroy and thieves break in the steel.

I lost my grandparents this past year, and I lost my mother a couple years ago. And I'm telling you, when you go through something like that, and you start going through all their belongings, this verse comes to life because you got all this stuff that was accumulated all these years. And we're just, most of it's going into the dump. And what little heirlooms we may keep, even at some point, my kids who are not attached to it at all are going to look at what's this junk. and it's going to be thrown out too. And I just keep thinking about that verse, the psalmist, I think Psalms 90 says, so teach us to number our days.

I think that's the thing. When you think it was you really just take a step back from your life and you really consider that it's short. Like I said, I went to a high school homecoming game. I graduated high school in 96. I'm like, man, this thing is moving. I think you got to put in a perspective.

You get all you want, But at the end of the day, I mean, by the time you get to enjoy it, you're probably too old to enjoy it anyway. It's just like it's a feudal. It's just futility. It's a great point. Well, I'm a treasure hunter, but I learned something from Murray. I was telling the story earlier. He found one day like the greatest fine that I had seen up until that, which was a 17-something.

You couldn't read the other two numbers. Spanish real silver coin And I mean our crew went nuts Which I later found one a few weeks later in the same area But the owners of the house They heard us hollering out in the yard And Murray immediately just gave it to the wife of the landowners And I thought our other buddy

Who's been a treasure hunter for years I thought he's going to have a heart attack Because he was like, what are you doing, brother? that's what he said. Murray said, I'm giving it, you know, it's their yard. And he's like, plus, what am I going to do? Put it in a box and stare at it for a couple more years until I die. But it just, it was like a real moment that I thought, you know,

and it helped establish a relationship with the landowners that they knew we weren't out there trying to get all their stuff. We were just having this experience and what we enjoy. I thought it was a real noble thing. But he quoted this verse, you know, because he's like, what we share there. And it was a good perspective. And that's kind of the key of this show that we're working on. It's like it'll be some variation of treasure hunters or whatever.

But the true treasure are the people that you run up on. You have this experience. It's more, it's kind of a, you know, there's some irony there. Yeah. Well, you're actually finding this old treasure, but you're viewing the people that you meet. as more of a treasure. Well, and the stories of the past. I mean, you're uncovering the stories of the past.

And I think that's such a great point, Jay. So I think about wealth. Wealth is not bad. I mean, you know, we're doing some things right now that I know we're going to be impactful, like this movie that we're working on about the Robertson family kind of life story from the beginning years. And it's going to be a powerful film because it's going to really show a, redemption and what God can do with people. And I think people are going to come to know Jesus

through this work. But I'm telling you right now, in order to do that, guess what we had to do? We had to go raise money. Well, guess where we went to people who were wealthy? And a lot of these people that have invested in this film, in fact, all of them, you know why they're investing in it? Primarily? Because they see it as a way to advance the kingdom. And so I think that wealth can be used in lots of different ways. There's a lot, I mean, we're just involved in so many things that I know about, just in my little world, people that have resources. And I'm like, man, I see people like the, like the Green family at Hobby Lobby.

I mean, you remember when we went there and you walk in and we do, you do the tour. The first thing that you do, they walk you down this hallway. And it's just, this is, basically, here's the missions that we fund. Here's why we're in business. And I'm like, you know, that, like, you know, that, like, Can you imagine the kingdom without the Green family? I mean, it'd be a word. The cornerstone for everything.

Let's take another break. Boy, I'm glad this text is in there, Zach. Why do you worry about clothes? But that's why I always look. I'm 75 and never purchased a suit. And someone says, it's like the two girls that came in about four or five months ago. And they said, is this like a real church? I said, well, yeah, we're glad you.

you here. The churches or the people here, they're meeting here. And she said, well, where's the preacher? I said, well, how would you know if you found him? And they said, we don't know, but you usually know who the preacher is. Well, right. Where's the preacher? I said, oh, he's around here somewhere. And they said, well, who are you? I said, I'm Jim Smith. And they said, well, Jim, it's good to know you. After I preached, both those girls were baptized. I said, so you're the preacher. It's a bizarre story. Phil keeps going to it.

I don't understand all the factory. But I know this. I would really, I would bet. And both of them were converted. I'm like, well, I need to try that again. I would bet that the number one feud in churches and in marriages is over money. I think so. Oh, yeah.

Would you agree with that? That's what I want to find out from you. Well, why don't we read? this, I mean, I'm saying Matthew 624. Well, read it. I just read it. You cannot serve both God and money. Well, and I will say, because I can just hear somebody listening right now saying, that's easy for you to say, Phil, because you're a multi-millionaire,

but I will testify that when you were poor, you acted, you felt you had the same message then that you do now. Well, Phil has a walking testimony that money doesn't change a person, because I'm going to tell you. He had no money. We experienced that. Then he had a lot of money. And here's what changed around here. Nothing.

Three days ago, I was standing 20 feet out here where all this stuff is. And I saw the largest rat I have ever seen in my life going up the wall. I was like, Phil, look at this. And somebody said, you need a cat. I said, there's not a cat on this earth that gets had james. We've made room for everyone. And I thought, well, nothing changed here. I'm not kidding.

This rat was this long for you that's listening. He was two feet long. Rat, and I'm including. I have witnesses. That's a newtri-long. It looked like a neutral rat scaling the wall. Phil, you saw it. Was that the biggest rat you've ever seen?

No, but he was in the race. I mean, I thought. To think about Phil says that the only thing that changed is the menu. But here's the funny part about that. that is that when I come eat at your house, I don't want the upgraded menu. I want theopolis of catfish. I want the fried deer steak. I want the, I mean, that's the best thing you make. So it's funny, even in the upgrade, the only thing that did upgrade, it's the old, it's, it's, it's, it's the food we grew up eating. It's the best. I will say this in that story yesterday.

Phil's first response was he said, I don't know about shooting a gun in here. When I saw him and the size of him, I reached a got a weapon, which was always handy. I reached and grabbed that weapon. I said, I don't know about that roof in this thing. So I figured if I missed him, I'd put a hole in my roof. We were all standing around thinking, is he fixed to shoot that gun? Now, that would have been, that would have been worth filming that.

So what did you do? What, did you do anything? We watched where he went. He's still in there. He went. I was like, he's got a house. There's one little. If I open my locker one day and that sucker comes out, I'm probably going to have a heart attack.

You're going to put me in the ground. I'm not embellishing. That was the biggest rat I have ever seen. He looked like a hybrid in between a Neutral rat and like a, not talking about a mouse. Look, a mouse trout? He'd come up here and flick that thing off. It has no chance. And he was bigger than a squirrel, so I don't know.

He was bigger than a squirrel. It's like the, what's the show, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? There was a big rat on that show. What was his name, Sprinter? Y'all probably never watched that, did y'all? I don't know. But this thing needs to name. I remember one of these old preacher stories.

I don't know if it's true or whatever, but it kind of depicted the problem, I think. That's sad when you say an old preacher story, and I don't know if it's true. I just a preacher. I wanted to tell this preacher story because you know, you hear these things and you're like, oh, my goodness. But I thought this one was pretty good. Now, y'all can make up your mind what it's true. Years ago, look, you remember when they had the publishers clearinghouse? Yeah.

Because I don't know if that thing was a scam or not. I think, but anyway, this woman, Ed McMahon was the guy. She won $5 million. And so, but she, her husband had a heart condition. So she didn't want to go tell him because she didn't want him to die of a heart attack because they won $5 million. Now, she was sincere. So she goes to the pastors and she's like, look, I got this situation. And they're like, hey, they thought about what we need to do.

They came with a plan. They said, you know, first if you think about seeking first of the kingdom, which we're fixed to get to, then that would help you not overreact it because it's just money. I mean, what's it going to do? We just read. You can't take it with you. You don't store it. So the pastor said, so I got a plan.

So they go out to the guy's house and the pastor asked the husband. He's like, look, we've had a member of our church win $5 million publishers clear now. Now, he don't know it's his wife, you know. Yeah. So we're looking for advice on what to do. What do you think? And he said, well, the first thing I would do is give half. of it, I'd tell them to give half of it to the church.

Well, then the pastor, when he heard that, he had a heart attack and died right there. Back to worrying. Now, why would, why would that he's back? Nah, he's not a priest of story. Why would Jesus, why would he say something negative about what we wear? So do not worry, saying what shall we eat? What shall we drink? or what shall we wear?

For the pagans run after all these things. There's got to be a lesson in this, and your Heavenly Father knows that you need them, but seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you. Therefore, don't worry about it today, tomorrow. Don't worry about it. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

So what's the message in there? Don't worry about what you eat, drink, or wear. So it must be a problem the human race has, or he would not have brought that up. Hang on. Let's take, hang on, Zay. Let's take another break. Think about the poor people in the world. The last thing, they're trying to survive, and they don't have to worry about this kind of stuff of them or what you wear, what you eat, what you're just making it from day to day. Somewhere there's a lesson in there about don't get so overly concerned. with trivial things, which that seems to suggest what?

Yeah, well, I think that what it suggests is that we don't want to believe in the sovereignty of God, and that God isn't, he's running the show here. I mean, like he is in control of these things, and we had, you know, in the past, before we had all these technological advances, we were, humanity was really at the mercy of nature way more than we are now. So it kind of, I think, forced us more into that. Now we can kind of pretend a little bit longer because we can have technology.

But at the end of the day, I mean, I think what this whole pastures, while we worry is because we think that we actually are going to be able to produce some kind of outcome. You know, the quest for food and certain foods I won't eat, it's a big thing in America

and it was a big thing here, Al, on Jesus saying, listen, y'all are running after all this stuff. this a hurt me, I better not take this. You know, this right here is healthy. This is not healthy. I mean, it's just a clamor going on in the country now. I saw a video yesterday, last night.

There were two people on an airplane. There's three seats. There's two people. They've got double masks and then they've got a face shield on top of that. And they're sitting there. And there's a guy and he's sitting there and he's in the third seat by the aisle. Somebody's filming this. And he's eating the food.

and they're they're they're they're they're cowered away from him in fear and the woman keeps looking around and she won't even look at him because he's eating food and i and the guy's like looking like he's kind of like rolling his eyes like can you believe these weird people like i'm trying to eat so he had his mask he was just eating then he was going to put his mask go but i thought that's the ultimate cowering and worry and fear that i mean they got on this airplane i don't know what they were thinking but they were mortified she wouldn't even look and the husband kept looking like he was mad behind her, I guess it was her husband,

like look at this guy. He's just eating right in front of us. Like, what is wrong with him? Who would eat on an airport? And not only eating now, he's breathing. He's breathing. He's taking air in and blowing it out without a wall. And he's seated next to us.

Yeah, that's right. And they've got their triple protection of it. But I think it shows you the ultimate, I think the pandemic, the coronavirus and all that, has shown the dividing, line in our culture about people that worry. It's pathetic to watch. I think the underlying principle, what Jesus was getting them to see, because you

got to remember, they're trying to keep the law, and he's saying, you have a heavenly father who loves you, will take care of you. He's with you in your closet. He's with you in your home. I mean, he sees what you're thinking, and then he gets here, and he says, because in verse 32, he's like, the pagans run after all these things. I just, I picture like, you know, what's the day Black Friday when all the shops open now?

There's running, tear, and scream. You get run over if you're getting away. You know, and just buying $600 shoes. Oh, and start fighting over it. There's purses out there that cost $10,000, you know, to carry what? I'm like, if I had $10,000, I would just get a Walmart shopping bag. and put the 10,000 in it, not a bag to carry. What am I going to carry in it now?

Plus, Zach, if you think about it, you mentioned the cancel culture earlier. Do not judge chapter 7, verse one, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged. And with the measure you use, it will be measured to you, meaning you might, you'll be be very careful on being judgmental of others and just say, yeah, well, you know, I've looked in 200 years ago, he made a mistake, and I mean, you treat him as a dog from that day forth. You say, no way out, no forgiveness, no mercy, none. You just judge him and move on as a movement, as a faction. Yeah, it's what happens whenever anything becomes man-centered.

If it's man-centered, it's inevitable. Because we can't manufacture these things, right here, we can't manufacture our righteousness. He says, you're not going to get there by the law. You can't manufacture your security. He says it's all going to get rusted in moths. You can't produce your own clothing. At the end of the day, if it's on me, then I'm going to be faced with futility and frustration, so I have two options in the face of reality.

Either I can bow before the living God and say it is you, or I can create distractions. And those distractions are always going to lead to a harsh treatment of the body, judgmentalness, cancel culture, abuse, because I got to do that. That's what happens. It's just the way it works. I think that's the narrative. If you don't have a father, if there is no God, well, why wouldn't you worry about all this stuff? I was mid-verse in that reading that, but it says,

but your heavenly father knows that you need them. He knows that you need food. Right. So all of a sudden, you're going to put your faith and trust. You're going to seek first his kingdom, and then he's not going to take care of you. You're going to worry every second of it. Well, that doesn't make sense. And then when he gets to the next, what you're saying about judging, he's like, you don't think he knows who's on the up and up and who's not.

It's not our job to go around and say, oh, you're wrong. You're right. We don't know. Can you imagine being a judgmental person your entire life, Judge, and other judge, slamming them, doing research, see how many mistakes they made, when they make them, how big where they're made, and people just get into that, and they want to get your history out where they can just lamb bash you. He said, that's the same measure. That's the same measure I'm going to use on you. Think about the progression, Dad. He started out by saying, if you're serving money more than God, then you're going to be worried about everything,

and then you're going to look at other people and be totally jealous and judgmental all the time. So the most bitter people in the world are people that are total lovers of money. I mean, because it's never enough. And if you're successful, then it's like, well, you didn't deserve that. Just look at the ramifications of big tech, Zachary, just big tech and all of what they've done under the banner of whatever flag they're flying. And you say, man, this place is a dog eat dog world. We got in here now. But, Zach, you brought up the perfect point because you're right.

Somebody listening to our podcast will say, well, that's easy for Phil Robertson to say because he's successful. What they miss is that Dad made a decision a long time ago to serve God, not money. Yep. And we didn't have any money, you know, and eventually you made some, but look, you didn't worry about things. Nope. You had some financial success, but you still didn't. By the way, did you ever see me or your mother, your mother maybe a little bit here and there, but did you ever see me going around trying and moaning about what we didn't have?

Nope. And, look, mom doesn't either. And Jayce's comment on this before, mom, all that having money means to mom is this more to give away to people. Tell me about it. She said, she said, okay. I always said if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if people say, man, I'm going to wait until I get money to be generous or wait to I get, you know, she said if you're, if you're, if you're, if you can't be generous as with a little, you won't be generous with a lot. And, and and, and, and, and you guys have done that back in the old days, it wasn't it wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't. It wouldn't. big rib as you were cooking, but it was the red beans and rice. And it was good. It was plenty. I think that's the thing here. I got that right up there in between salem and y'all. It's up at the top. But, Jason, I want to key on something you said, I think, is when you said it, you read that verse about God knows what you need. Because I mentioned earlier, the problem is, is we question the sovereignty of God that God's running the show here. But the other thing we question is that God is good. And so,

Yeah, we either question one or two things. Either God's not capable, he's not powerful enough to take care of us, or we question if he is, maybe he's not good enough, and he doesn't have my best interest at heart. I think that's where, and I've struggled with worry. So I can tell you, man, that's like, that's what I have to continue to repent of is, is to say that I got to keep coming back to it and say, God, you're big enough to do it and you're good enough to do it. And I got to rest in that. It's difficult, but I think it's a sanctification, a journey at the time. I think you're right, but I think his theme, because he was talking to Pharisees and religious people, and that's why when he gets to Chapter 7, he keeps making this analogy that when it comes to how you view what you're doing, you need a mirror instead of a magnifying glass. Yep. Because you think that is the difference right there in the religious world. They're looking at everybody with a magnifying glass in a judgmental spirit or even worry and, anxiety. But they never see themselves.

They're looking in a mirror. I mean, you find that theme over and over in the Bible when it says you'll read the Bible and then you immediately go and forget that, you know, James says you forget what you look like. You know, he's, he's all four mirrors. Well, I love it though, Zach, and we'll close with this. The beauty of, and I appreciate you being transparent about your own weaknesses, the beauty is we have each other. You know, we've got wives that complement and help us to be better men. same thing was Zach and our business partners. So obviously we talk a lot about business, about what we're trying to do with that. I mean, think about it out. Some people among us are going to baby showers, men. That's right. Growing men. My point, and you know what they thought when

I walked in, some people just don't belong. So Zach and I compliment each other. He has to worry more because I worry little, but together we make a good team. So anyway, I'll close with. that. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else, subscribe to BlazTV at blazed com slash Unashamed.