Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 353 | Why 'Duck Dynasty' Fans Will LOVE Jase’s New Show & What Makes Phil's Heart Leap

Episode Date: September 27, 2021

Jase finally gets a look at the pilot of his new show and thinks "Duck Dynasty" fans will LOVE it. Zach and Al explore the beauty of God and the process of discovering what God is really like. Phil sees something that makes his heart soar, but Phyllis doesn't quite share his excitement. Jase brings up Jesus’ offensive messages. And Al talks about Satan’s last temptation of Jesus and why reading the Bible once isn't enough. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? She said that you owe a little bit of money to Anna. Oh. I'm not going to run out of money. Now you have mom and dad done any of money. Okay. Well, what's on the menu? Yeah, what's the menu?

Chicken and dumplings. Chicken and dumplings. Sounds good. And 15 fried pork chops. Oh, 15 fried pork chops. Oh, man. Oh, corn casserole.

You have me at chicken and dumplings. That was good. We're wasting time. We're like, we're like, we have the meat. See it in a bit. Okay. All right. That was weird.

That was a conversation with Kay who was doing her physical therapy through BK. Yeah. Yeah. How to this? See, y'all are young bucks. Phil, I'm not young. We're, we're in our 50 years. But y'all are still at the early years, you know,

where women are basically more silent. But once they hit about 70, you can't shut them up, I'm telling you. It's one story after the other. I think that's why Dad doesn't wear his hearing aids at home. Yeah. He's just tuning out the world, everything going on. So, Jay, did you get what you need?

Yeah. So you're all good? Yeah, I'm actually texting my wife telling her that, because her favorite thing is Kay cooks is chicken and dumplings. So I'm like, So to our audience, let me explain what just has it. So we're, Jay said some guests in today that are observing our podcast and mom is cooking for them, which is a great blessing because she's doing chicken dumplings and all the favorites.

So we're trying to get all that lined up and do a podcast apparently at the same time. They supply me with metal detectors because we have this show that you created. That's right. Unashamed nation. You were, you were, because you could have said no. You made to give you an update. Yeah, but our guys are here. I think three or four podcasts ago, look back in the archives,

where are we added in the podcast? We've done like 30 or 40. So go back a few, and I said that I was going to see what they call the rough cut of our show that you created that we did. Me, side, Jeff, Murray, and Friends. So I saw it. So I'm supposed to not talk about it. Yeah.

So I am because we're under grace, not law. We'll get to that land. And Zach is your overlord, and he's actually on the pugnus. It's easier to get forgiveness than permission. And if I say something really stupid, this is not live TV. You'll never hear it. That's called grace. Or editing.

So here was my assessment. I'm going to be totally honest. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything. We went out. It was a skeleton crew. We thought we're going to find earth's treasures, clean up the environment. But more than that, we're going to enjoy the journey with other people and just see what happens and film it for you. And so we went, he filmed it, I watched it.

I thought, number one, it was way better than I anticipated. It was entertaining. I was not bored. And look, Missy, she liked it. She's never metal detected. number two it was a lot like duck dynasty i wasn't ready for that and so that was strange because we weren't trying to make another you know we that ship sailed five years ago so it hit me in that moment that i guess we just are who we are and no matter what setting we're in it just kind

of felt like the same type of show so i guess if you liked duck dynasty you would probably like this. There were a lot of people that like Duck Dynasty. I'd say that's a good sign. I did think it was a little more authentic and a little more interesting because you don't know, and we didn't know, what we're going to find and exactly where we're going to go. So it's kind of like, you know, people like mysteries and treasure hunts and maps. And you're trying to kind of figure out what this place looked like 150 years ago.

and then you're trying to find anything. And let's face it, the greatest quality is you're replacing Willie as the star of the show. I mean, right? That's got to be the best. I thought it was great too, Jason. It was very nostalgic. Oh, Zach saw it. Yeah, it was very nostalgic.

I think when it does. Wait a minute now. What, what does that mean? If any word you use with over three syllables, you don't take it today. It kind of took me back. If somebody had told me, Jeff came up, he's got the metal detector with him. He said, Dad, where is that old post down there where people put in, y'all nailed a pole up and put a mailbox on it, had a lock on it, and had a slit. So you put in a dollar.

But you had that. We had it. You said they. Yeah. You pay one buck. you can launch your boat. So we said, we might make this some money-making enterprise because people would come down there and launch their boat

on a ramp I put down there. But my mama, she said, you know. Granny financed. Oh, okay. Granny finance. You can get a buck for everybody that launches their boat. I thought, well, good night. That might work.

America. So that all came and went. Years ago, the mailbox is gone. Everything is gone. Well, Jep said, where was the mailbox? And I said, why would you want to know that? He said, because if money was being transitioned from the vehicle to the mailbox, they may have dropped some, some coins.

Listen, he went in about a 10-yard circle of that mailbox and came up with about $20, $25 of quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies. But I was stunned. So I'm just thinking about it. They go to old homesteads, old towns that used to be there, and it's all rubble and they plant crops on it. But I just noticed from that one mailbox that gathered humanity shifting a dollar over in a thing, it's 25 or 30 bucks there. It just fell out of people. In the ground right under it.

Where people gather. I was shocked. Well, I want to hear this definition of, I would, what was the word? Nostalgia. I've never used that word. You've never. Tell me what that means, Zach. I should have looked it up.

Now I'm going to have to define it myself. What's like to look back fine? As a general rule, don't use words. You don't know what they mean. To look back fondly. Yeah, it's like memories from the past. You go back to your old stomping grounds and it just brings back memories. I thought it was refreshing.

It was refreshingly positive. They're like you at the swamps. That was a nostalgic experience. Are you ready? Yes. A sentimental longing or wishful affection for the past, typically for a period or place with happy personal association. Well, that's what we need to name the thing.

That's right. Let's call it nostalgia. Happy, happy and happy. Nostalgia. Nostalgia. Nostalgia. Nostalgia. Nostalgia.

So think Alti. Not nostalgia. Can you use it in a sentence? that was an English minor. So he actually, that was my homeroom teacher in the sixth and seven grade. Hey, he's pretty smart. Yeah, Phil was tracking with English. Well, he was tracking with me.

Okay, this just then, I'm not that smart. But I know Jesus and guess what? That makes you smart. So, so I think, but, you know, since I'm Jeff, he's, we've talked about this before on the whole treasure idea. Like Murray and Jay seemed to be more like to go find. historical things is what they get excited about. Jeff's more if he can just find a few bucks.

You know, he was digging around in the middle of my truck looking for chains. I said, Jeff, this isn't really treasure, honey. You're just robbing my truck. I don't want to ruin the show for you, but Jeff's looking more than he's looking for more than a few. Jeb's thinking retirement. He's thinking of a swing. I mean, I was like, yeah, I mean, we might find that.

We're going to find some cool stuff along the way. But I'm not sure you're going to be able to retire and quit your job over this. Well, I asked him. I said, Jeff, so you're getting changed on my truck. What is that? Like, it's just stuff that's all new. And he said, you never know. One time I found a whatever, whatever quarter, you know, just in somebody's changed bin.

I said, well, that's low-hanging fruit, I guess. I've been amazed that they have come up with. Jason shows it to us some time by time. Oh, he's found some amazing. I mean, it literally is treasure. Well, the reason I think the show would work. is a guy like me who has no interest in metal detecting, but I love history. And so some of the stuff they find when you think about it that somebody was wearing that

around. How many diamond rings or gold rings would you find on a beach that draws thousands of people? Just how many would you find out there? You know, they're there. A bunch. I mean, I found probably half a dozen rings. Well, the last time I was at the beach, I saw a guy metal detecting, and I kind of chuckled. but all he kept finding was beer tabs and the stuff he was finding.

I didn't see anything about it. But you know, to the guy who's an experience, you kind of know the beer tab signal. But it is close to certain things that you would keep. So, I mean, it just depends on whatever mood you're in. But I also like the idea of... By the way, do you carry any digging tools with you? Do I have digging tools? Yeah.

I got a shovel for every occasion. Oh, is that right? I have lots of shovels. I've broken shovels in half and everything else. I mean, it wasn't a ground hard. What's the deepest you found something? Well, I mean, with the metal detector, they say. I mean, so it's buzzing and you're digging, and you're buzzing and it's digging, and you're trying to.

They say it goes down 12 inches, but that, one of the greatest finds I ever had was a silver Spanish real coin. I mean, we usually observe those as currency in America. in the 1700s for, I think it was a 20-year span or whatever. Something like that. Am I pretty close? I'm in the neighborhood. These experts are here. Yeah.

So, and I found that, and it was over a foot deep. I would say it was probably 16 to 18 inches deep, and it was real tiny. I often wondered, because speaking of nostalgia, somebody had that coin in their pocket. Well, you know what they did? That's what I like about it. So I'm thinking, I imagine. Well, listen to this, Phil.

This one had a hole in it. They had made a necklace out of it at some point. And I found them like that before. So they had in their pocket, but in this case, they actually had it around their neck. And whatever that was probably a string or some sort, because there was no, there was a tiny hole. And it probably rotted away. Could have been violence. Well, it could have been.

It could have been a trophy. But we actually found another one about 30 feet from it. Mine was a half real, and Murray found a full real, which would be like the equivalent of a dime. So what years would that have been? Mine said 1786. I think they only made those reales for how long they make those reels? 20 years?

Oh, longer than that. Well, the time frame was the late. 1700. So Murray's... Just right after the U.S. was founded, the Constitution 1776, just a little later than that. So why were they called Spanish? I mean... No, they're Spanish coins. Oh, when I, when it came out of the dirt, because you got to remember, I knew this was like the possibility of finding the Spanish real, which I figured I wouldn't until I got to heaven. Somebody said, hey, here's what you were looking for right here. But when I saw it, I went, I blew it. I blew no English

because I couldn't read it because it was in Española and I thought I know what this is and sure not well yeah it was like I couldn't read

I couldn't tell you what it says so how did it get there well there was a it's just in the ground yeah it was in the ground and we had found a bunch of stuff there but I just kept going back over there was he running was you trying to hide

was he I think he gave it to his he gave it to his girl friend she put it around her neck to show her affection and love for it. A fight broke out. Then he went over and just was trying to find himself and lost his. And then she just took it and slung it. Because that's where it went down because there was two of them right there. And so next thing you know, a couple hundred years later and change was that to 1786,

2021, do the math. We're talking 235 years. pretty good yeah almost as almost as those old Jace going around the creek man no ablo Espanio oh yeah

I can see why they do it yeah that's what I'm saying I love the history that's the report let's take a break so that's that's interesting but I know from look keep us keep us

abreast of this developing story as exciting as that was I will say that where your heart is there your treasure will be also and there's a lot in the Bible about finding treasure. He uses the illustration. I keep going back to this,

which is why I got into this. In Luke chapter 15, on why he is eating with the riffraff, he said, it's like a woman who loses a coin, and she searches all night till she finds it in her house, and when she finds it, they throw a party. Now somebody said, well, it had to be that they used coins around their neck, like the one I found with the hole in it as their wedding, part of their wedding ritual in their culture, because they were like, why in the world would you be sweeping, sweeping the house till you find it?

And why would you throw a party? Because it was something of value and sentimental, nostalgia. I might just start using that word in my, put that in my repertoire when I'm around the yuppie. I'm adding value. I'm adding value here, guys. Yeah. I tell you this.

This is getting smarter right in front of my eyes. once the show comes out, because then you have to do all this media and the interviews and all that kind of stuff. Now, I'm saying they may look at it because they haven't seen it, and I haven't told you who is because I know I can't do that.

But let's say they see it and say, we're not doing it. So we'll try to do it somewhere else if that happens, but we're hoping that they'll take it. Then you have to do the media stuff. But I'm going to try in the first interview when they say, so how would you describe the show? I'm going to say, well, there's a certain nostalgia

that came about. One last time. Not nostalgia. That's a red net. Nostalgia. That's a left wing. You did get there. You need to say.

Phil, I was taking it and making it my own. You're getting like your mama. She butchers the English language. Actually, you need to do it. Yeah, what's got to have to just that way? They do it that way. And then what's got to happen is we got to get the unashamed nation involved to have a hashtag nostalgia movement. So they'll hit the social media.

They'll do the hashtag for us. Hey, Zach, while you're on that, tell them about what does it they need to do on the likes and stuff like that that that helps the podcast? Yeah, you know, we're always kind of fighting against censorship and big tech throb on our content. So yeah, anytime you, if you're a fan of the show and you're participating what we're doing here, Make sure you like us on wherever you consume the podcast, iTunes, YouTube, Spotify, leave comments, just interact. I mean, anytime the more interaction that we get out there in the big tech field, the more people see it because the algorithms pick up what we're doing. So by the way, our audience has been amazing.

I mean, they really have, they've really pushed this show out and they've made it what it is. So just continue to do that. Thank you, guys. Yeah, we love, we love us, among a shame. nation. So let's get back and finish the sermon on Mount. We're in Matthew Chapter 7. And we just got to the point where Jesus kind of, he kind of wraps up the section he was talking about in terms of how we react and interact with other people. Same with how we react and interact with God himself. And then he gets to this,

what we were calling kind of these choices. And it's interesting because he was laying this out kind of in a bigger picture sort of way. But, you know, already in real time, you're starting to see people make a decision about whether he's the real deal or not. I mean, some people have just written him off, as Jay said, because he comes from Nazareth. He's like, who is this guy? There's no way.

He doesn't fit the criteria for who he claims to be. So already, you see that what he's starting to kind of narrow in on, to use his words, is a lot of people that are just saying, ah, I ain't buying it. And even with what he was doing, the miracles, because he's healing all these sick people. But it's like, well, we can't explain that, but he can't be the guy. So already there are people making that call. I was having a conversation with a buddy of mine yesterday. And he had gone elk hunting.

And the cook had prepared the meal. And he just, me, it was a long story. But he looked up and it was just him and the cook left at the table. and somehow he said this woman had made a comment about something about Christianity being not real just like a crutch for people well you know my buddy he's you know he believes Jesus is the son of God and he said so when I heard that he said I just asked her he's like well how do you know Egypt is here exist have you ever been there of course she was like where he's like Egypt she's like well no but I've seen maps and you know history and he's like well the same maps history and documentation is about jesus and so he said that just started a conversation where in her mind this just was some made-up story that had no facts no history and no real element to it but he's like the more that they got into it which eventually they get to the resurrection and he said you know i could just see the the

the tone changed. It's like, well, wait a minute now. So there's historical evidence. I mean, the Bible was not some made-up story. This was an accurate depiction throughout history. I mean, you look it up. The places where they say, you go over there and look around and say, oh, yeah, I've been there. And then when you look at who he claimed to be and what the benefits of that is, it was like, by the time you got to the end, she was like, well, I might harder reconsider this.

and of course we both discussed how that was probably a god arranged encounter right but but still i'm saying it's hard for people to grasp oh you know this this could actually be true yeah i dove into those kind of questions for years uh probably starting about 15 years ago because i was i was somewhat of a skeptic and i needed more kind of what's called apologetics which is i needed i needed defense, I need a defense for the Christian faith. But man, as my faith progress, I really have learned that what really changes people's lives is not even the historical evidence. It is there, but it's not, I mean, what it is, it's the resurrection of Jesus. It's the, it's the idea that God himself becomes man. It's this bizarre story of God becoming flesh. I really do believe that

in Romans, the whole theme of the shows that the power is in, it's in the gospel. That's where the powers that to convince people, in my opinion. So I think that's a cool story, Jay. Yep. Yeah, I agree. But you know, Zach, you're one of the things about, I love the way you said that, because your faith grows. But you were, you and Jill were very effective when you guys were here in West Winnow, working with college kids because you went through that period where you needed that, you could relate a lot, I think, to where they are, where you're on a college campus and, you know, a lot of what you're hearing is just what Jace was saying. Oh, that's a fairy tale. it's missed, this, is that.

You know, the stuff we're talking about is science, you know, history, and we can prove this, that, and the other. So I think those kids needed people like you that had had that passion for that to help them develop their faith, which one day they'll say the same thing. I mean, I think that's why it's an important thing for different periods of where we are. And certainly college campuses are just, you know, that's a tough place to be right now as for a Christian. Well, I always used it as, well, at first it was about evangelism.

But honestly, as many people as I've had discussions with, they get really deep into the science and the history, I've seen zero people come to Jesus from that. But what I have seen apologetics be effective as is a way to dismantle what I call smoke screens. I don't think most people have an intellectual objection to faith in Christ. I think the objection is almost always something much deeper. There's an apologist out of L.A. his name is, I can't remember his name, J.P. Morland, and he said that the two things that he's

seen people that prevent people from coming to faith is either they had some kind of issue with their earthly father figure, that they then projected that on to their heavenly father. And then the other group, he said, is people who just want unbridled sexuality. They don't want to have a sexual ethic. And so I found that to be true in college ministry. And I think if you can provide something that you can show the beauty of God and who he is, he's, he's a amazing and that's what we're called to do yeah yeah part of my invitation when I speak at all these places is I stop everything and say most of the time you know you have an altar call on her invitation but I'm going to ask you to go home and read these red letters over and over

I usually recommend John because I just think it's a little easier to understand maybe and just see what God is like and I've done that thousands of times and people have come back and they're always surprised at how they had formed opinions about God that were simply not true. Right. But they didn't realize it until they read it for themselves. Did we lose that? He had to go make a phone call.

He's, he's turned into just a big time. Oh, yeah. Well, and I let him be big time because he helps me make money, so I'm happy. Let's take a break. Just a little interjection here, the Marks style of this pontificating. Now look, think of every, think of every philosopher you've ever heard of, every famous person you've ever met of all the human beings you've ever run across. I have never, not one, seen so much said in such a short a period of time with the things he used as examples. watch out for false prophets.

So you say, uh-oh, let's see. They come to you in sheep's clothing. We're talking about sheep. But inwardly, they're ferocious wolves. We're talking about sheep and wolves coming out of a false prophet. They're one or the other. By their fruit. Now we're taking the natural world.

We understand what sheep are, what wolves are. We have an idea of where he's going with it. I've never heard anyone use this type wordage to make a point. He's the only one I ever heard of the did disk. Watch. By their fruit, you'll recognize them. Follow them around and see how they behave. And that'll tell you the story about them.

No matter what they're saying, follow them around and watch how they behave, even at night when it's dark. By their fruit, you will recognize them. Now we're talking about do people pick grapes from thorn bushes? Now we've got grapes, thorn bushes, thrown in with wolves and sheep. Our figs from thistles, now we have thorns and figs. Likewise, now we're going to trees. Now just think about, and I mean, it's like in the red, it's two verses or three.

just look how much stuff was coming out of this, Al. Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. I was on my hands and knees this morning in the woods. My daughter's with me and old Burley, and we're trying to find a way across that bayou over there. Well, when I pulled up there, we were checking to see how much rain and did it do anything to our dump across that value. So we're checking that.

Well, so I'm looking at the ground to begin with. And I see something, and my heart leaped. I was happy. And I said to my daughter, I said, come over here, let me show you something. And she ran over there. She said, what is it? I said, look at that. Well, she looked down, and she said, what are you talking about?

I said, look at these pinhole akings. I said, I said, look, I was talking about the, it's amazing. That could have been an emotional letdown for your daughter in that month. Might have been. You might have set her up. She said, so what kind of bacon is it? I said, that's a willow, a pin oak. I said, you know what, drop these things?

I said, look at them. They got bites out of them. She said, yeah, and I can tell there. I said, squirrels are dropping them. I said, what that tells you is, I said, look around. And I pointed out through the woods. I said, look down through there. I said, that's what kind of trees these are.

Those are all willowls that bear in these kind of acres. I said, now I know we have a substantial crop of fruit coming off these trees. That's the number one food of wood ducks and squirrels like them. I said, see that bitter precond over there? There's one. Over here's another kind of tree. I said, bitter pecan. Doesn't sound good.

I said, nothing to eat it. I said, a squirrel if he is really hard up and there's no acin crop, he will in a moment of weakness eat a few bit of pecans. I said, but a bit of pec is not good for anything that I know of as far as food stuff. It's bad fruit. I said, but this is good fruit. Well, I didn't realize I was fixing to read this this morning, but until I read it and now I'm sitting here reading it, I said, so watch. So you said nobody else other than Jesus talks like that, but you talk like that too. But you were making the connection.

Because I know him. She was let down because she didn't see the connection between the acorn and the squirrel and the wood duck, which are two of the greatest things you can eat. And this is how do you find out who's a false prophet? And they're up to no good. How do you know? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit. And that's a fact because I'll watch it carefully every each and every year.

I'm looking at, are there over-cup acorns? because that's a big one like that. Are they willow oak acons? Are they nut-alls? Kind of long acorns. I said, let's see which ones are, what's going on with these trees? I check it every year on my hands and ease.

Every good tree bears good fruit, simple but profound. But a bad tree bears bad fruit. Simple but profound. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. It's just the way it is. And he's comparing that, the trees,

to humanity saying, a lot of bad trees out there. But you can find out whether they're good or bad. You see, you know how? He said, what's how they behave? What's how they behave? Are they bearing good fruit? You realize Al's going to be preaching

and he's going to get to his invitation and he's going to say, look, some of you are just bitter pecans. A bit of a pecan. Come to Jesus. You've been a bit of pecan your whole life. And then wait for it because this is a tombstone line. Come to Jesus and he'll make you an oak.

There you going. You got it, Jace. Acorns. So my... That's my sermon for this one. My observation... It's pretty good. It was really good.

My observation about that is that the reason Jesus was so effective in using this analogy, as you described, is because he was there when all this was made. he is the creator. In him all things were made that have been made. You bet. He made all these things. Then it says it a different way. Nothing that has been made was made without him.

How could you be any more clear? Everything is made. And he took what he made and used as an example. And that last little final statement is a doozy. I never study with anyone unless I bring this up. I bring it up to everyone I sit down with. I said, they're all going to know who you are. So how's it going now?

You're going around, around, what are you into? Well, crystal meth, you know, and I'm jacked up right now, and I'm not married. I'm on crystal meth. I'm getting drunk every night. I said, bad fruit. I said, bad fruit. Bitter parcon. I said, dude, you're a bad tree.

And he said, a bad one or the bad tree. Bitter-Petan sounds better, so. Yeah, thus here's the kicker by their fruit, and it is a truism. you will recognize them. You say, you want to find out who somebody is? Don't just get it to Sunday morning when he's at the church building. You can't tell there. Everybody's going to act halfway decent inside the church building.

But you say, but on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday late in the night, I said, that's when you begin to find out what someone is made of. Monday through the following times you get together again through the week. just watch him listen to his language you'll find out a lot about a man I think that's what hey on jess let's take a break i think that's why jesus used these types of illustrations and some of them are almost offensive to people it's like you remember the time when he did the miracle where he spit on the ground

because i know some people that when you spit anywhere at any time they're offended yeah they're like especially there's some states that they're like you spit on the ground everybody's looking at you like they failed to recognize the old african-american woman who was sitting on the porch and me and sigh went up there we were going to ask for her grandson we wanted to go fishing there's right around around here we're looking for her she said i don't know but but she spit and and sigh looked at me because she had that sweet garret snuff and when she spit it stayed together for a good 20 feet and sigh

looked at me and said man I wish I could do that so some people contrary to what you just said they are all struck by the length and the breath of how far a person can spit we're going on the brown woman she could spit

okay so so when Jesus there's your exception to your spit what I'm going to say is I don't want to break up your conversation there but I'm just saying there's a art to know that it's bit. I'm quoting the scripture here.

She put her two fingers kind of like that. Yeah. So I don't know whether that applied pressure to keep it straight or, but she went. I've seen people do that before. Sweet Garrett's not, they'd get it on the end of a, not the spoon part on the handle. And that is a dark jar and they'd take it. And they're sitting on the ports. And my great grandmother, she was a good spitter, but she wasn't hold.

And your grandmother, she used to. Great grandmama. And then Mamo Hale, she chewed tobacco. Red man. Red man, because she always had it in the refrigerator, crisper. She said, you want a little chill red man. The more I'm hearing this, no wonder we're all weird, you know. And my grandmother went in there and, you know, she walked out of the room.

She said, you want a little chew of red man? I said, yeah, you got some? She went in there, and I washed her, and it was up. She kept it under her bed. You know, it finally got her. She about 85 or 99. So Lisa's grandmother, I remember when she dipped snuff, but she had a brown ring right under her lip right here,

just constant from dipping. She'd spit in a cup. It was a fungus or it was just stained from the snuff? She needed some of that elixir that guy on that boat was selling for 10 cents. How's it was stained. So anyway, so what I'm saying, when people read that story, they're like, it's too unbelievable. to them where here's a guy claiming to be God

made a potion out of his spit and mud and actually healed a person, a blind guy. When he could have just easily have spoken it because that's what he's done before. So here's why I think... He was making a point. So here's why I think he did it. Because I think he wanted to show

that he was a representative of a human. Because human, I guess there are some spitting animals, what they call that or some snakes, I think. There's spitting vipers. But I'm saying we know what, you know, human spit, and it's kind of some people find it gross. Others, after this conversation, quite enjoyable,

or something to ascribe to. And then he's healing in a eternal God way. I don't know why he would do that other than the fact is to show that God became a human. I mean, you may think speeding is gross, but at some time you may spit as a human being. Well, you can go into the different bodily activities that we do, and some people have a problem putting God down into that body. But, you know, human saliva has a healing quality of its own.

You notice if you get something inside your mouth, it heals quicker there than any other place in your body. But when you, but what else, how else could you conclude why he chose to do that, than he wanted to show that God has become a man. You know what I mean? I mean, he had a point. Spitting on the ground? He didn't have to do that. I mean, people find spitting a fence.

And he said that you believe it's not. He spit enough to make a little mud pie. He takes something that's very simple. And when he gets done with it and you read, it comes out profound. Yeah. I mean, so simple. But you said, well, I've never thought about exactly, you know. Well, Phil had also got him killed.

Oh. Because really, look, When you read the next verse in 24 where he said, now we've heard this story. As a little kid, what's that song? Don't build your house upon the sandy land. Oh, yeah. Oh, Kelly, he's still leading it.

I mean, I heard that when I was about 10, you know. It's an old favorite. Don't build it too near the shore. It might be kind of nice, but you'll have to build it twice. And then it's like, you better build your house upon the rock. Get a good foundation for, that's the gist of the song. But watch what he actually said. If you were standing there, he said, therefore, everyone who hears these words of mind.

So the very words we're talking about that you're discussing and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. Well, then he tells the story that we know, you know, the rain came and nothing happened because he had a great foundation. But when you say, what was he saying? He was implying that, look, what I'm saying and you putting them in practice, that's the wrong. that's the rock that you build your house on, your life on. That's it. Everything else, he didn't say crap, but he said everything else, sand. That's right.

Which is what? The equivalent of a bad idea. I mean, but that is so, I mean, they found that offensive. A lot of people, they're like, what are you talking about? Your words are the rock that we build our life on, and that can take all, storms and anything else is saying right now Matthew's doing this writing but since you brought that up well Matthew brought it up I just yeah Matthew brought it up and Matthew also recorded Jesus saying he said heaven and earth this is Matthew 24 verse 35 this is a this is a eye catcher and I'm saying

hmm heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never My words will never pass away. That's a pretty profound statement. Yeah. You mix all this up. He said, let me tell you something. What I've had to say here, that will never pass away, ever. So it's the truth.

You remember, and to that point. And that's what sets you free. Let's take our last break. You remember in Matthew 16, whenever he asked Peter, who do you say I am? He said, you're Jesus Christ's son of the living God. He said, this rock I will build my church. The idea is it's him.

And so I thought it was interesting, Jay's because... I've never read... Have you ever read anybody that even came close to Jesus Christ, what he said? No. Even Thomas Jefferson, he couldn't buy the resurrection, but even Thomas Jefferson said, as far as what Jesus Christ had to say, he couldn't argue with it.

He said, you know, I'm a Christian. I can't get around him. Well, it's kind of a progression when you look at it because we started out with the narrow gate and if you choose the right one, you go into the next one, you see the people that don't choose the right one, you'll see the bad fruit. And again, the falseness is going to come that Jesus is talking about

is saying that he isn't the way. The old way is the way, right? That's why I think a lot of scholars, I think most scholars, they don't think this sermon was a sermon. Matthew just took a collection of the things that he said. And, well, because it starts off saying he sat down talking to the disciples. You know, he saw the crowds. But I mean, that's what they say.

I don't think it matters. It doesn't. But to take us back to a couple podcasts ago, when you said that Nick Sabin, which I thought said this a little pridefully, when you're on the top of the mountain, you are the mountain, a better name for this would have been Jesus is the mountain. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't a sermon on the mount. it was him on the mountain. I mean, which was the point he was trying. And people get so caught up in trying to figure out these little details of why in the world would he take the law even further?

You know, like we mentioned, and he mentioned about the adultery. I'm saying you don't even look lust to be at a woman. Well, then everybody's feeling deemed. Yeah. Because you're not. Well, wait a minute. I thought it was pretty good. I guess not.

But he was trying to get them to see. It's who you put your faith and trust in. If you try to do this based on your human performance, you're not going to pull it off. And he proved it to them by taking laws that they thought they were keeping and sharing with them. You're not really keeping these. I mean, you're not keeping them.

But I don't think they were recognizing that because they were like, well, who are you? You got up this morning. You think you're better than me? Which he's the only person that could have said, Yeah. I am. That's right.

Well, look, it's a clear choice in every one of these illustrations. It's one way leads to life. One leads to destruction. One leads to good, something that helps you, is build you up. The other is bad. Bitter pecan. No good. One says, welcome.

Man, aren't you glad we did this? And the other says, away from me, I never knew you. I mean, there's going to be some surprised people if they didn't believe in Jesus when they faced the moment, right? And then the last one is, what do you build on? If one foundation leads to strength through the storms and all that, one leads to destruction. Before I came to know Jesus, I was bearing a lot of bad fruit, which was all bad. So I finally said, okay, my way won't work. I give.

Where's the verse where he said, Jesus is the cornerstone? I know we've seen that song, Cornerstone. on uh second second peter it's it's really good yeah it's like it's like second peter i thought it's first peter might have been first peter yeah first peter yeah first peter too yeah first peter too it says as you come to him the living stone yeah which i don't even know what that means but he's the foundation he's the stone he's the stone but he's alive because you can't kill him rejected by man that's stone capitalized yeah i like that's cool chosen by god and pressure to him you also like living stones which goes back to my point about when he says he is the god's only begotten son and he refers to him

as my father and when he looked at others he would say your father because through jesus we have that adoption capability through his only begotten son i mean i think that's That was Matthew's point. So it says you also, like living stones, being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifice is acceptable to God through Christ Jesus. For in scripture, he says, I lay a stone, a chosen and precious cornerstone,

and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame. Yeah. By the way, it's the same concept. And finally, even before the sermon on the mountain, 5, 6, and 7, in Matthew 4, Jesus answered Satan. He said, because Satan said, if you're the son of God, tell these stones to become bread. You know, pull a miracle, show me one.

And Jesus's answer was, it is written. Man does not live on bread alone, but on every, every word, meaning this is mistake-free wordage. But on every word that comes from the mouth of God. He said, when I say something, that's it. Yeah. And the story. And he is the word. You know, it's interesting, Jay's what you described there from that First Peter II passage, he's talking about it.

Remember when he said, when they look at it at the temple and everybody was marveling and he said, you tear this down, I'll raise it up again in three days, talking about himself. Yeah. But him being the cornerstone, what Jay's just read in First Peter II is the new temple. Yep. With him at the cornerstone and then the foundation. I'm glad to be a member of it. I have me too. Yeah. I think to Phil's point where Jesus said that, you know, when the evil one was tempting,

he was like, tell these stones, I think he had got way under this, when John the Baptist had said in chapter three, the previous chapter, and he was, he said, and do not think you can say to yourself, we have Abraham as our father. I tell you that out of these stones, God can raise up children for Abraham, which I always thought was a funny comment. But he was like, you know, you've heard that joke It was almost the first rock concert, you know, because he has that power. But it's just an illustration that he is the foundation. And it's not about him proving himself beyond what the plan with was, which was to offer himself to show us the way, I mean, to be the example, you know, to give up himself and humble himself.

I am unashamed. What about you? She said that you owe a little bit of money to Anna. Oh. I'm not going to run out of money. Now you have mom and dad done any of money. Okay. Well, what's on the menu? Yeah, what's the menu?

Chicken and dumplings. Chicken and dumplings. Sounds good. Yes. And 15 fried pork chops. Oh. 15 fried pork chops. Oh, man.

Oh. Corn casserole. All right, look, you have me at chicken and dumplings. That was good. We're wasting time. We're like, we're like, we have the meat. See it in a bit. Okay.

All right. That was weird. That was a conversation with Kay who was doing her physical therapy through BK. Yeah. Yeah. How to this? See, y'all are young bucks. Phil, I'm not young.

We're, we're in our 50 years. But y'all are still at the early years, you know, where women are basically more silent. But once they hit about 70, you can't shut them up, I'm telling you. It's one story after the other. I think that's why dad doesn't wear his hearing aids at home. Yeah. He's just tuning out the world, everything going on.

So, Jay, did you get what you need? Yeah. So you're all good? Yeah, I'm actually texting my wife telling her that, because her favorite thing, Ms. Kay cooks is chicken and dumplings. So I'm like, do you want any? To our audience, let me explain what just had. So we had, Jay said some guests in today that are observing our podcast.

And mom is cooking for them, which is a great blessing because she's doing chicken dumplings and all the favorites. So we're trying to get all that lined up and do a podcast apparently at the same time. They supply me with metal detectors because we have this show that you created. That's right. Unashamed nation. You were, because you could have said no. Do you mean to give you an update?

Yeah. But our guys are here. I think three or four podcasts ago. Look back in the archives. Where are we added in the podcast? We've done like 30 or 40. So go back a few. And I said that I was going to see what they call the rough cut of our show that you created that we did.

Me, side, Jeff, Murray, and friends. So I saw it. So I'm supposed to not talk about it. So I am. because we're under grace, not lost. We'll get to that land. And Zach is your overlord, and he's actually on the pygiveness. It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.

And if I say something really stupid, this is not live TV. You'll never hear it. That's called grace. Or editing. So here was my assessment. I'm going to be totally honest. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything. We went out.

It was a skeleton crew. we thought we're going to find earth's treasures, clean up the environment, but more than that, we're going to enjoy the journey with other people and just see what happens and film it for you. And so we went, he filmed it, I watched it. I thought, number one, it was way better than I anticipated. It was entertaining. I was not bored.

And look, Missy, she liked it. She's never metal detected. Number two, it was a lot like Dynasty. I wasn't ready for that.