Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 356 | Miss Kay Sends 'Text Messages' to Phil & Jase Makes a Pickup Line Creepy with One Word

Episode Date: October 3, 2021

Phil doesn't realize Miss Kay has been texting him. Jase and Al point out the similarities — and distinct differences — between Jesus and Superman. Jase shares a creepy pickup line that no one sho...uld ever use. Al recalls two guys who caved in an entire wall while wrestling in his mobile home. And Jase explains some of the curious death customs described in the Bible. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So there's always 100% of the time. When I walk back in the door down there, no matter what time I get up and leave, I mean, there's a note on the arm of the chair I stay seated in, my office, I call it. But there'll be a note. The first thing that would be is where she's going, long she'll be, she'll be back at a certain time. I'm like, hmm. Maybe that's why y'all've had such a long-lasting marriage. Maybe. The menu is then discussed. You know, this is where I'm going. This is where I'll be. Call this number if you want me. And the menu today, and she'll put down there
Starting point is 00:00:52 what the menu is. Do you ever write a note back to her? No. No. I just read her notes, and I read her notes, you know. The rest of us do this, too, Dad, it's called texting. We do it with our phones. That's true. I mean, what you're experiencing. That wasn't, that wouldn't get to me. I know.
Starting point is 00:01:12 That's why you. She's texting you, but she's writing her text on a piece of paper and putting it where you're going to do. That's what it is. That's what it is. So she just, except you don't ever text. And then she has, when she'll be, the time that she'll be arriving back, back there. She does it every day.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Every day. Game plan. So see, if you could text or draw, you could like send back a thumbs up. Yeah. See, that's what people do. They give you this, and then I'll just go, I'll put, but they have an actual cartoon figure of a thumb, and you send that. Whatever she had on the menu, when she does arrive back, she will say, how'd you like your? And she'll ask me about the menu.
Starting point is 00:01:59 The menu. The menu. How was the menu? Any downside to the menu? And I'd say something like, well, you know, I said, was that chicken breast or chicken thighs you used yesterday? And she said, that was chicken thighs. And I said, I said, they were good.
Starting point is 00:02:14 That's pretty good. I said, you had little Brussels sprouts in there, you know, a little onion. And she just kind of baked them, browned them a little bit, and then baked them in the oven, chicken thighs. I thought, you know, opening the lid. I didn't know what was in there. Well, they used chicken. She hadn't told me she had a pan in there, you know, take it out and whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:33 You know, when you come in, this will be this, it'll be there, that'll be this, that'll be this, that and the other. Did you like your sweet corn? She had that there, you know. So she runs through the list, seeing how I liked it. And if I say, don't ever do that again, she'll never do it again. But the thighs have the more moisture is what they say. Well, that's funny because I spent my whole childhood thinking that the breast was the best piece. because it was the biggest piece.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And now that I've gotten older, I realize I was craving actually the worst piece of the chicken. That's right. I mean, the best piece is the dark meat. I don't know about the worst. I mean, it's pretty good. I'm just saying. Give that to the neck, maybe. The neck's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:03:16 The back. Granny used to always eat the back, and I always said, look at poor Granny eating the back. But the meat on the back is really good. It's just not much of it. If I give her information for it, she takes off on meet with the girl, the ladies, you know, and they all have these women's meetings, you know, they'll cry. And it's just a woman's deal. You tend to stay away from it.
Starting point is 00:03:38 It's just like 10 women and they've got their own little cubbyhole. They meet down there, you know. They've got their little books they have in the Bible. And some are out of the rehab. So there's usually always ones they're reaching out to. You know what I'm saying? It's an ongoing continual structure. Well, Sunday she has.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So I went to lunch with the, we had a meeting at a restaurant for our marriage retreat. And so I walked by and I hear a bunch of loud racket in one little section of the restaurant. Yep. And I look in there and it's mom with like six of her friends. I guess like it was after church. That's right. And she's got them to put the Saints game on in the room they're in. And so, you know, she's in there like she's at the game.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah. But they're in a restaurant. a crowded restaurant. So I just came up behind her. She didn't know I was going to be there. I was like, man, you've got a lot of complaints about the noise coming out of this room. She looks around kind of. She gives me an update on the football world.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And she characterized what the, your favorite team, the cowboys. She had the Dallas Cowboys there, you know. She said Dallas, the score was like 40 or something, you know. Oh, she gave you the final score. Yeah, Hertz and the boys were over there. on the other side, you know. So she left this on a note, too? Yeah, she left it on a note.
Starting point is 00:05:04 She said short and sweet, it was a blowout. It was a blow. I was happy last night. Anytime they beat the Eagles, I'm always happy. But it was pretty good. You missed it. They looked pretty good, actually. I think they're going to be pretty decent this year.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Dak is back, as they say. The Saints, they're like, Jacqueline Hyde. They looked awesome week one. They looked horrible week two, and then they look great again. Let me give you a Q in. Week 2, they didn't have all their coaches because they had coronavirus. Really? They were missing seven of their coaches, which proved to me that coaching does matter.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It does matter. Game Day coaching. Just take them out, and they got strapped. They're all looking around. What do we do? But I will say in their defense, I watched Carolina play last week, and they're pretty good. Of course, they got our guy. They got our LSU guy, Joe Brady, who was the mastermind of our 20,
Starting point is 00:05:59 19 LSU season. But they lost McCaffrey for a few weeks, so good luck. They're playing the Cowboys this week. We'll see. Yeah. In our particular text that we've been looking at, a tax collector was called by Jesus, Matthew, and I just wanted to just form a little cadre of information. Can I ask something before you do that?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Look, is this? you know, this may be obvious. I don't mind being looking like an idiot. Is Matthew in chapter 9 the Matthew who wrote it? Yes. You're sure? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He's talking about himself. Yeah. So you have Matthew. He wrote this down. How do we know that, by the way? Well, I mean, because all the other ones have the same thing, they call him Levi, which is his other name. But this same.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Couldn't it been another guy, Matthew, writing the book of Matthew? Well, it could have been, but it's pretty much widely accepted that Matthew is the apostle. Okay. I mean, it's not a big deal. I just was curious. So what struck me in this, and it struck me, the return of Jesus is going to be the day of judgment. So it would be too late then. but if a person on par with Jesus at any time in history had shown up,
Starting point is 00:07:31 in this case, he showed up 2,021 years ago, and what was said about him before he got here, which is amazing, because I'm looking at when we first started this in Matthew 1, I'll elaborate that on a little bit, but over in the Psalm, the Psalmist said, He, God, forgives all my sins. He heals all my diseases. Well, I mean, when did the Psalmist write that out?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Was that? What Psalm is that? Which one is it? That's Psalms 103. That's roughly, what, 1,500 years ago? Probably so. A lot of a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Well, he actually. quoted, where was that where he quoted in Matthew it's in 817 when he said this is to fulfill what was spoken through the prophetizing. He took up our infirmities and carried our
Starting point is 00:08:34 diseases. Carried our diseases. So he forgives our sins, he heals all my diseases, he redeems my life from the pit, speaking of the resurrection, and crowns me with joy and compassion. Well that's over Psalm 103.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Well, when you turn, you finally get to Matthew, all this time has passed. You look up, and the purpose of the Jesus showing up, the purpose is about the birth of Jesus. This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about. Well, that's Matthew 118. Matthew is recording this. We're now in about chapter 9 and chapter 10 here. she will give birth to a son. You're to give him the name, Jesus,
Starting point is 00:09:22 if you don't think all this was worked out in advance, because he will save his people from their sins. So the purpose of his arrival, one of the purposes, is said to Mary even before Jesus was born. He'll have a purpose. You call him Jesus. And because he'll save his people. from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet.
Starting point is 00:09:55 The Virgin will be with child and will give him and will give birth to a son. They'll call him Emmanuel, which means God with us. You start right there, and I just started reading these texts, like Matthew 612 leading up to where we are now. Matthew 612, Let's see. Can I interject something? Yeah. Well, you just read this about God with us, which was something I kind of had an epiphany about last night when I was thinking about this. I think when people read Matthew 8 and 9 and they fast forward to their current lives,
Starting point is 00:10:41 there's a temptation for people to say what can God? do for me. And especially in the miraculous world. And that's why when you come up with the illustration in chapter 9 where he's going to forgive the paralytic sins, it just seems kind of contrary to what his problem is. He's paralyzed. Okay. What can you do for me?
Starting point is 00:11:12 So what I'm doing is I'm laying a framework where what he does. told the paralytic. He didn't talk about the paralytic, you know, and I'm going to raise you and you're going to be on your feet in a few minutes. He said, I'm going to forgive your sins, which is going back to Psalm 103. And then you got Matthew when Jesus is talking, forgive us our debts. Well, it's, it's when when Jesus started, this is how you should pray. And inside that prayer, forgive us our death. What I'm, what I'm pointing to is, the forgiveness of sin, the removal of sin. Go from Matthew, look at Mark, Luke, and John,
Starting point is 00:11:57 they're all saying the same thing. So that's Matthew 612. Matthew 614. If you forgive, we're back on it again, men, when they sin against you, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. If you don't forgive men their sins, he won't forgive yours.
Starting point is 00:12:15 He's laying down a framework where the overarching picture is, I have the power to remove your sin. I will keep no, it says in other places, record of wrongs like y'all do. You humans, you keep a record of wrongs. Because I love you, I keep no record of wrongs. I'm going to remove it, and it's going to be removed, and I'm not looking at a chart and looking at your mess-ups.
Starting point is 00:12:45 that's all taken care of in advance. The blood will remove your past sins and you trust in me and you confess your sins as you follow me, I don't count those against you. I don't have a chart with your list of sins on them because think about it, if you looked at every human being's chart,
Starting point is 00:13:04 it would be ugly, Al. It would be ugly on the amount of sin. That it would. So that's 15. You asked all humans to grade on the schools, scale what do you think they would say like i hear phil all the time say i'm a c plus man but if you went to that he means yeah intellectually but if you had people grade themselves on how good they were yeah because what what would do you think would do you think anybody
Starting point is 00:13:33 would give themselves an a you know i'm sure somebody would you know who would a psychopath that's right that's right but those people would give themselves an f So we'll roll past nine. I think they give themselves a B. Yeah, we'll roll past chapter 8, 9, and 10. We're going into that zone. We'll move out of that zone. In 1821, Matthew 1821, Peter came to Jesus and said,
Starting point is 00:14:04 Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Well, it's still being brought up the whole time. I tell you the truth, not seven times, 70 times seven. He's constantly, without fail, bringing them back to a truism, a truth. I am here to remove your sin, your past sins, and not count your future sins against you. The whole thing. So you start, you say, how would he get people to believe that? Well, you look up and there's one miracle after the other.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Well, yesterday we talked about the miraculous. one he heals many the man of leprosy the faith is a centurion in other words uh Jesus calmed the storm they were all scared to death the healing of two demon possessed men now we get in chapter nine he heals a paralytic so you start reading you add miracles things that are outside time and space and you look up and you say what do we have here on planet earth that are that is saying the things and showing you things that are beyond scientific reasoning. It's super natural.
Starting point is 00:15:27 All these events are all supernatural. You just look up and you see one person doing all these things. I came away with this one conclusion. Hey, before you say that, let's take a break. I came away with one conclusion, Jason. This is for you. All right. Jesus Christ is our Superman.
Starting point is 00:15:52 He's our Superman. I like that. You get my point? Yeah. Other words, because he's saying things that you've never heard of before, love your enemies. I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:02 that won't work. You need to get Kay to write a letter to Hollywood and tell them that. So I didn't know Dad was going to do this today, but in Superman. Oh, you're making me nervous. In Superman style, you know, Superman had his, suit on underneath. Look what I have underneath.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah. Did you leave one of those shirts on my table? I did. I did. That's from our 316. So just an overarching point, all you people are listening out there. That's the gospel symbols. For those of you listen, I showed it on my chair.
Starting point is 00:16:31 To us. If you're going to prove us wrong, well, get your history books and tell me about what you see when Jesus said this, that, and the other, and what he did. He died on the cross. Three days later, he told him he was going to do it. That's coming up in Matthew 16. I'm going to go up to Jerusalem. They're going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Three days I'll rise from the dead. I'm going to forgive all your sins, and I'll raise you from the dead. I am Superman. I can do it. Well, somebody starts making that claim, but when you go over there to see who the guy is talking and you watch what he does and you see paralytics jumping up and people heal the leprosy, you're like, good night.
Starting point is 00:17:13 He may be Superman. Well, to us, he is our Superman. That's a good point. Don't you think that Superman was based on Jesus? He was from another planet. He could fly. He could fly. He was raised by people that weren't his real parents.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Even we make human constructs on a Jesus because we have a record. Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars, Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, Man, all of these people were created with Jesus a skill set in some way. That's right. And now they'll take credit for it, but they're lying. And I'll just finish with this. And then you go through the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and you get in the book of Acts, oh, you know, look, Acts 531, 1043,
Starting point is 00:18:05 you start reading all these. Let's say you just go with one of them. Acts 5, what did I say, Acts 531? Yeah, what's this? Acts 531. And this comes up over and over and over. You, you, we must obey God rather than men. The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead. We're going back to the Gospels. Whom you had killed by hanging on a tree. God exalted him to his right hand as prince and savior, listen, that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins. it's always in there. So if you just get the reading, you go through Acts 10, 43, Acts 13, 38, Acts 20, removal of sin, removal of sin.
Starting point is 00:18:53 You get to the epistles, 1-7. Let's see, in Him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins. So you read that, and then you say, and over and over, you get to Colossians. Colossians 1-14. usually when they start the letters. He's rescued us from the dominion of darkness,
Starting point is 00:19:16 brought us into the kingdom of the sun he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. It's over and over and over and over. But when you first run up on him, you're like, who is that? Well, once you start seeing miracles, you're saying, what is all this about? It goes back to when the angel told Mary, call him Jesus because he'll remove the sins of his people.
Starting point is 00:19:45 That is the, that's the bedrock of our entire discussion when you're looking through any of the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the forgiveness of sins. I only bring that up because this world we live in, the reason there's so many suicides and no peace of mind and just, just loneliness and, People just feel like nobody loves them and they just can't get on their right track. And all of these things are happening. Al, if you look at it, a psychiatrist would say, well, these people, you know, they need psychiatric. All they need is forgiveness.
Starting point is 00:20:27 If they knew they were forgiven, it's okay. Your sins are behind you. God has removed them through Jesus. That's why he came. Come on. So it's still a tough sell. it was a tough sell in the first century. Look what they did to the forgiver of sins,
Starting point is 00:20:45 thought if they killed him, that'd be the end of him. That's how their sins got removed. What a story. It is. I just thought I'd give you a little short sermonette here, Jace, this early in the morning, but it's a good one, I think. I like it. Well, I heard a believer's Superman.
Starting point is 00:21:02 That's Jesus. What's crazy is Sunday I was coming back from Tennessee with my daughter. And I listened to a sermon, top five sermons I've heard from Pastor. That was a good one, Case. You've heard a lot. Tom Lowe, he's from Westrow, Christchurch, if you want to look it up. I'm sure it's probably still there. But it was on forgiveness.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But what he did was, I think they had had some series that was basically asking the congregation what you would like to hear and this was like the final one and it was on forgiveness. Which, by the way, is to my point, that we need to preach that more, Jay. Yeah, that's what the people I asked, how do I forgive somebody?
Starting point is 00:21:52 There you go. Which, what I found fascinating and why I said it was one of the top five sermons I've heard, and although I missed the last 10 minutes because I literally was about to run out of gas. So I thought, should I? Because I really wanted to listen up, but I was looking at the E,
Starting point is 00:22:09 and I thought, you know what, this is about forgiveness, but it's also about just pull over and hear the end of the sermon then gets it. Well, that's what I thought, but once you stop and then people are, hey, dad, give me some money and I'm pumping gas and people blowing the horn. You know how it is. They all need forgiving, Jake. They all need it. But I just heard a great servant.
Starting point is 00:22:29 But what he did, which was what I was going to say, is he started with this God with us. You know, God didn't just decide to. like arbitrarily like he healed the one when the centurion said just give the word he had to show up in person he showed up and decided to do this with us not just for us he did it with us and the reason i keep saying that because i'm making a strong point about that because that really matters if you're viewing christianity as what god can do for me instead of he did he wants to do this with us. That's why he came down here. That's why he went through all the emotions. And then when he got on the cross, he mean, he'd think about it. They tried to kill him when he's a baby.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And this was basically his lesson. And at every turn, the religious people who should have been the most supportive people in the world for what he's trying to do, they're persecuting him and blast him. He's being falsely accused. I mean, at every time, every turn, there wasn't a materialistic bone in his body. None of that. I mean, you're talking about the only only a plus person to live here as an adult. I mean, A plus. Yeah. And he, you find him up on the cross after all his disciples had abandoning,
Starting point is 00:23:52 which is he's been betrayed. I mean, it's just every bad thing you can think of. And the word is, Jace, his final words, forgive them. Well, that's what I was getting to. No, that was the first thing he said when he got up on the cross. So his lesson, the reason it was so powerful, is because he went through every bad thing that happened to him from people. And the first thing he said when they hoisted him up was forgive him.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So I mean, it was a good one. Which proves my point out with all the text, you add them all up. Well, in one little sentence, he says, forgive them. All the way to death. But to finish my thought, I just want, I thought of this illustration, which may be PG-13, but I think it gets the point. Because I don't think people, they don't think it matters when they're in a church setting and they're like, well, what is God?
Starting point is 00:24:47 They're only looking at Jesus and what he did through the eyes of, it's, you know, for me. It's almost like, what can he do for me? What did he do for me? I mean, instead of what he did for me. That's why are you wanting a miracle today? Well, the miracle of removing your sin has already taken place. Which is the hardest. Let's take a break. But I heard a joke one time that I think illustrates my point.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It's like, let's say you're back in the dating world. Because if you don't think that's a big deal, you're back in the dating world. This is just to illustrate my point. And so you ask your young lady friend here, one of two questions. You can say, would you like to dance with me? gentleman you know that's
Starting point is 00:25:42 so let's say you ask her would you like to dance for me there's now all of a sudden you went from a gentleman to a creep I've never
Starting point is 00:25:57 actually used I've never I've never asked either one of those questions days well I'm just trying to make a point there is a different
Starting point is 00:26:08 in the way you're viewing this relationship. There is. And one of them is completely self-motivated. And that's not the way it's supposed to be. And you just try that in marriage. And guess what? Same thing's not going to work. I mean, maybe unless you reach a point in communication where, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:28 but that's another podcast. You go on the Kitty podcast, talking about that, Jay. So look, so back to your Superman thing, Dad. So I looked it up. I googled it, as they say. And a man named Jerry Siegel did the first Superman comic book introduced him in June of 1938. Really? June 19.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So what was happening in June of 1938? The rise of a man named Adolf Hitler that was then beginning to try to take over the world, who we call the evil axis. So it is interesting that at a point. of complete evil, someone produced a character, a superhero that had the qualities of Jesus in a lot of really uncharacteristic way. So it's pretty amazing. You know what I'd like to see, I'd like to see the believers, Superman, put him beside Hitler, Karl Marx, put him beside Joe Biden. Just put our Superman beside him and look at the two. and say, what you think.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yep. Well, the problem is they're never getting past what's on the outside. The difference would be rather stark. Yeah. But Jesus looked homeless, and he didn't have the pedigree on where he was from or the education. You know, he did. He had a greater education than any person on the planet, because he had divine education.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But still, he just wouldn't get past the first. front door, which is why he didn't. But isn't it interesting that back to the Superman analogy that when you watch 90 years of this character through time as people have written him and movies and all that, and they went from this guy who came here to save the planet to be in... Help others. Yeah. But he winds up being now he's got the girlfriend who becomes the wife and like all these
Starting point is 00:28:35 human problems. And they've humanized into. the point that they took out is the fact of why he came to begin with it. It isn't interesting how human, you know, mindsets are. It's just, you know, in other words, we're going to take that away from it. Which is the same thing with Jesus. You know, there was a movie, it was called The Last Temptation of Christ that they did a few years ago. And in the movie, he sleeps with Mary Magdalene, I think.
Starting point is 00:28:59 So I never saw the movie because I don't want to support it. But the idea was they were like, oh, we're going to humanize him to the point of make him like everybody else. Yeah. He's as sinful as the rest of us. Right. But that's the bottom line. He was fully human. He did totally understand us, but he did not sin. No. But he had the reputation for being a sinner. He did. He ran around, which we'll get to that in Matthew 11. But I think y'all got the heart of Matthew 9 in the paralytic because we've had all these different miracles. And this is the first one where you see him not only establish.
Starting point is 00:29:37 his authority over the physical, and we talked about the spiritual realm and all that, but now he's saying, I have the power to forgive sins. What's interesting is this same story, Matthew just does a little blurb on it, but if you go read the Mark 2 version of the same story, you know, this is the one where the four guys come and tear out the hole in the roof and then lower him down. They couldn't get the guy to Jesus. And here's what's fascinating. He says, with some men brought to him a paralytic laying on the mat. When Jesus, when Jesus saw their faith. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 He said to the parallel. So it wasn't even the guy on the mat. He looked at the faith of the four guys that ripped a hole in the roof, and he said, now there's some faith. But think about it out. Those, I want friends like that. Exactly. You just think about what they did.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I mean, there's a lot of lessons in this one parable. I mean, I think another one is, why did he tell him to take his mat? He didn't need it anymore. because I think he didn't want him to forget. You know, because then that's the way the evil one works. The guy's down. He's a paralytic.
Starting point is 00:30:46 He has this awesome thing happen. And then, so what does the evil one do? Well, then he comes at you with pride or, you know, it's just the game changes in the spiritual warfare of things. But, I mean, unless y'all can think of something else, They get up, okay, go home, yeah, take your mat. It seemed like you could have left it behind. You used to be inextricably tied to that, but now you're not.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I just think he wanted him to remember. I mean, it's just what I think. I never thought about it. I didn't either, but it's a good point. But I also like the idea about the friends, because I think he was saying the same thing. They were, I mean, you just think if you had an inner circle with people like that, if that was your inner circle, who would, because you know, I think this was Peter's house.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Can you imagine? Right. I mean, I thought, what did Peter's wife think when all of a sudden all the of the roof? There goes my roof. I mean, I've had kids spill stuff. I've had stuff stolen, you know, at an house church. You know, we have my medical cabinets rummaged through looking for whatever. Same thing happened to us.
Starting point is 00:32:02 You know, all this stuff. But you tear a hole in my roof? What are I going to say? Time out. Okay. I mean. So McIntosh was in town this week and we were talking about the first time we had House Church, Lisa and I were living a little trailer.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And it was right when all those guys were first converted. So we were having a group in the living room of that trailer. Of course, they're all young. So Philip and Bill Phillips start wrestling in my living room and go into my wall. I mean, one of them pushed the other one into the wall. you know, especially back in these days, 80s, mobile homes, they're built a little bit better now. They caved in the, and I'm renting the trailer. They caved in an entire wall in my trailer.
Starting point is 00:32:48 You can laugh now. I can laugh about it now. It was not funny at the time. But I was like, what are you, what are y'all eight years old? You're, you know, you're grown men. You know, they were 18, 19, 20 years old. But I was like, you've just destroyed this. And I can't.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Which goes to show you why you, why. you shouldn't be in there during a tornado or if two men wrestling can tear out a wall in your house. It's probably not the safest place. The other question is, if you're there to give them spiritual guidance, what are they doing back there banging each other up against walls? Well, there's a tough sell out there. I think that's more just being young. That's what it is. I mean, Willie used to try, that's why we fought too much.
Starting point is 00:33:31 He was constantly trying to wrestle me because he had me. outweigh about 40 pounds. Let's take a break. Well, that's exactly right. But here's what happened. So we move out, so my father-in-all comes up and fixes it. But, you know, I mean, he wasn't really a carpenter, but I didn't have any money. I was an intern working for the church. And so when we leave the trailer, I get this letter from the owner. And she said, you know, has a list of things that, you know, weren't, didn't, weren't good when I left the place. And, you know, I fretted over because she said, I'm going to sue you, you know, and I thought, sue me. I mean, I literally am living on about $800 a month.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And so I thought, what am I going to do? And so I just went to her. And I just fell on the sword. I was like, look, I'm a poor. I'm a preaching student, intern. I work for the church. We had a lot of people in the trailer. I know we did some damage.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I'm sorry. If I had any money, I'd give it to you, but I got nothing. And I just looked at her, and she was like, well, I understand. understand. I really appreciate you coming back. Don't worry about it. I would think that would work. I think that would work, in my opinion, 1%. Well, it was the, all of it was the truth. Of course, you could have called me, Al, and said, you know, are the buffalo running down there, the catfish? Because I was making about a thousand, which is 200 more than you would
Starting point is 00:35:02 do it. That's why I didn't come to you, dad. I mean, there was nowhere to go. A friendly finance it wasn't going to loan me any money, you know. But, you were in that stage of life where someone came in and stole your identity, your credit school would probably go up. You have nothing. We had nothing. But it is a lesson. It's funny because I just saw her son recently.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And I was telling him this story. I said, I don't know if I ever told you this story about your mom because she was my landlord. And he was laughing. He was like, I never knew that. You never said anything about it. But what it shows is that honesty is always best. I mean, she could have just said, oh, you're a line or whatever. But I was being truthful, 100%.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I got nothing. I mean, I know I feel bad about what happened, but I was doing it for it because of, you know, because of. You were like two guys were wrestling. I was trying to help. We had a lot of people. We were giving them the Lord, and they started wrestling. And one of them accidentally bumped because W.E. can move some material.
Starting point is 00:36:08 He was in on this scrap. He's the one that went in the wall. Philip took him into the wall. He's always been a pretty good size, dude. Husky. Husky. Yeah. I mean, as in scary.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Like if he fell on you, call 911. So to the point in the text, the house just became the place. But you know one of the things I've always thought was interesting. And Jay's, this is a lot of times I think. about this and people in modern day where you kind of have your seat and your pew or your whatever that's your spot there was all these people that were crowded in there and they weren't doing anything wrong because they were there to hear Jesus but this guy couldn't get they couldn't get him to Jesus because all these people are there and I bet at first before they
Starting point is 00:36:54 did the hole in the wall they probably were trying to get in there hey can he let us do we got this guy too many people yeah get out of here you know we're listening here and I think about that even in modern times, sometimes when you don't think about the person trying to get in, but you're only thinking about yourself and your position. I don't know what was done about the collateral damage. It doesn't say, you know. Well, if Jesus was a carpenter, maybe he fixed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Well, if you can forgive sins and make a paralytic walk, probably fix the roof without that silly commercial, the guy with all the seal stuff, which is the most. I hate bringing him up. I don't want to say. It's the most ridiculous commercial. And yet it works because you remember it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So anyway, so he tells him, he forgives him. But look at the last verse in verse 8. When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe, and they praised God who had given such authority to men, which I thought was interesting. They still don't really see. He's got some authority, yay for him, but they didn't realize. He is God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Which is the whole reason why he was called Emmanuel, which I think is nobody ever hardly brings that up anymore. He wanted to be with us. Right. He wanted them to understand. And them, I mean us. He's here. We have this document that the whole reason we're going to get into the next chapter
Starting point is 00:38:23 because he looks around and he's not going to run out of people to help. Right. That's why he said they're harassed and they're helpless. So then he's like, I'll tell you what. Let's get a workforce. I'm going to give you the power, but it's like at every turn he was wanting to be with us, not only to help, but to work alongside. No, you make a good point because when we talk about our little symbols that we do with the gospel,
Starting point is 00:38:51 that arrow coming down, that's as much a gift as the cross next to it. Yeah, but it's the least talked about why he was here. Right. Yeah. Which, look, I didn't wake up and think of it. about it. We just read in the text, the more I got to reading these stories and what happened. And I was like, well, he was making a point to literally feel every possible situation and
Starting point is 00:39:16 enter himself into it and just be a guy with some, with a skill set to help. I don't know of one he didn't cover. Yeah. Right. You know, was it, John said, look, look, this is just some of the things written down. I mean, if all of it was written down, the books wasn't holy. So he was doing way more than what we even read, according to John. So we call it the incarnation, which is Greek incarnate in flesh, the idea that God in flesh is what was so special.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And so, you know, there wouldn't be any of the cross, the tomb, and all the other aspects unless we appreciate the gift of them coming. My conclusion from reading up to this point, chapter 9, chapter 10 of Matthew, is we're spending way too much time in a church building. Yeah. Because he, this was all about life. Oh, yeah. People. And, you know, he's looking and having compassion. And so, I mean, I know it's, you know, the gospel message is what pricks someone's heart.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But there's no way you can read the first nine chapters and not realize that we've got a responsibility to go out there and be compassionate towards people and be there, you know, in their misery. This is Monday through Saturday, Christian. Christianity. Exactly. But let's take our last break. But don't you think there's an element to this story, too, that's like the one we did in John 9 back when we studied John, where the disciples look over and there's a man there and he's been born blind because here is this paralytic.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I don't know how long he's been paralyzed, probably his whole life. But whatever happened to him, that he winds up paralyzed. But the way people looked at these people in that day, in that culture, in that time, all of ancient time, is that somebody messed up. for him to be like this. In other words, this is somebody's fault. Because me, when they asked the question, did the parents sin or did this guy sin? Yet he was born blind. So I get the same element from this story. It's like people could walk by this guy, except for these four friends, and say, well, you know, oh, poor sack. You know, somebody, somebody must have messed up because he wound up like this.
Starting point is 00:41:30 He messed up somewhere. And Jesus looked at him and said, your sins are forgiven. He went straight to the heart of the matter that, look, I've got the power to forgive or heal, but both are found in me. I mean, I think you make a good point. And even with the woman who, it said she had been subject to bleeding for 12 years, you know, in chapter 9 and verse 20, and when you read in the, do some background on that in the Leviticus account, I mean, she couldn't even be touched, nor could she touch anyone. She was considered unclean. So she, that's why she said in verse 21 if I can only touch his cloak. She was more like...
Starting point is 00:42:10 She didn't want to contaminate him. Yeah, because then he would be unclean. So, but here Jesus turned and saw her, which doesn't sound like a lot. But these people were not, you didn't look these people in the eyes. That's right. They were considered, number one, she was a woman, and they were mistreated for just being a woman. Right. You talk about a different situation.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And even now today, it's a little weird over there about how they view women. And here he saw her. And then he's like, take heart, daughter, your faith is healed. And the woman, you know, was healed that moment. But I just thought having that one little moment was just a few verses. But he took something as such an outcast in that and made her feel. But you know what's interesting. When you read the Mark V account of it again, you get a little more flavor.
Starting point is 00:43:02 she touches it and instantly she feels something happened. Because you know, it's not something you could just kind of know unless you checked that you finally quit bleeding, you know, this woman. But she knew, she felt in her body that something changed. And Jesus looks around and he's like, who touched me? And of course, there's all these people around him and the devil's like, who touched him?
Starting point is 00:43:25 And there's got people everywhere. And he said, no, somebody touched me. I mean, it's almost like he was calling attention to her, to your point. And then that made her speak out. But, I mean, that was powerful. Well, he does that in one breath. And then the next, it's like the next version 23, he entered the ruler's house and saw the flute players and the noisy crowd,
Starting point is 00:43:47 which I did some research on that. That was like mandatory if someone died. You had to at least have two flute players and a wailing woman. You had to pay that. Yeah. And so they say, go away. the girl is not dead but asleep because we've got a dead girl here. But they laughed.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Well, after the crowd had been put... They don't seem to be too upset. Well, that's why I'm saying. They had hired... Well, they had hired... Well, you had to do that. And that was just their custom. And then they're not too upset, but they're like, well, no, she's dead.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I mean, I think more they were laughing, too, at, like, you're fixed to be embarrassed. Because she's dead. But he could have left them all in the room and said, well, watch this. But he cleared the room, and he took the girl by the hand and she got up. And I just thought, was he experienced this moment with her? A dead girl coming back to live, I can't imagine. I mean, you've got to kind of feel in the blanks here. But all the blanks are good that you fell in with this moment that happens right here.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I mean, I just thought these are two obscure women, knowing how the culture is toward women. And one of them, an outcast is not a strong enough word. And another one we've given up on because she's dead, which is time to give up. In fact, the people are, this was Jarius, again in Mark V. You can get a little bit more of the story. When he said he was going to go get Jesus, they were like, why? Don't bother him. You know, she's dead.
Starting point is 00:45:27 but he had so much faith that he went anyway. And so, Jay's to your point, in the Mark version of it, as he put everybody out, he took the child's father and mother and the disciples and went in where the child was. He let the parents go in there because it was the dad's faith that was going to save her. And then I think about dad the way he said this. You had the, you know, Aramaic what he said. And it means little girl, I say to you, get a little girl. I say to you, get up.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Tell me of the reason I think about dad when I think about that little girl. He's what he said, little girl, get up. And then she's 12 years old. She gets up in that moment. I thought, man, you talk about powerful. Yeah. You know, to get to witness that.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And then her family, at this, they were completely astonished. He gave strict orders not to let anyone know about it. Of course, we know from Matthew, the whole news spread all through the reason. He kept telling me, yeah, don't say anything about this. But it's almost like to me it's like a joke because he knows they're going to go tell everybody about me. How would you not? She was dead. They knew it.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And now she's up walking around. Yeah. I mean, how can you not talk about that? Well, I think that's why it's interesting that, you know, we have the blind men in the next miracle, fall in. And they're hollering, have mercy on us. And he's like, do you believe I'm able to do? Yes. And then he touched their eyes and said, according to your faith.
Starting point is 00:46:55 it will be done to you and their site was restored. And then he's like, see that no one knows about this, so that he says it again. But then in the next miracle, what I find ironic and almost comical is there's a guy demon-possessed who can't talk. So this is the perfect candidate
Starting point is 00:47:10 if you want to keep this a secret, but not he threw out the demon and now he can talk. And so he's like, here we go again. I thought you didn't want this to get out. Yeah, and he's going to be telling everybody. But I think there is something it's like Jeremiah that, you know, first verse I think we learned when we went to school there
Starting point is 00:47:30 because Jeremiah went, what, 40 years was persecuted and no converts. And then he's like, you know, if I say I won't mention him or speak anymore in his name, I can't help it. There's a fire in me. I can't hold it in. You know, I'm weary of holding it in. But I think it's the same thing with us that those that experience Jesus in a personal way, a daily lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You know, you just can't help it. Right. I mean, especially when you're in evil environments and you're kind of pushed against the wall, I mean, me personally, I just can't help it in that moment. Because I'm looking around trying to view them like Jesus would, and you have the same conclusion that he did, that they're helpless and harassed like sheep without a shepherd, which goes to my other point about, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:25 do we have chickens if this was all an evolving thing? Why do we have sheep? Sheep have to have a shepherd. Yeah, it's kind of ironic, but the Pharisees said the most religious people on the face of the earth. It is by the prince of demons that he drives out demons. I don't know how you could come to that conclusion. Because they couldn't face the reality that he was the son of God. So then you make that. Well, it's even more sad. It's like a lot of religious people today is they were sincerely mistaken. Yeah. But that mistake has a lot of consequences. That had a big cost for them because they kept a lot of people in the dark for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And then 80 to 70 comes along and they got annihilated. Oh, yeah. And he said, it's coming. Judgment is coming. You better get on board. Yeah. But they never did, which is unfortunate. All right.
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