Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 357 | Phil Gets a New Party Barge & Jase Is NOT Happy with Missy's Grocery Store Buy

Episode Date: October 4, 2021

Phil is pumped about his new party barge. Al teaches Phil all about the term "Karen." Phil shares his amazement at Jesus' disciple picks. Jase and Phil compare the IRS to the tax collectors of the Bible. Jase has a Michael Jackson experience while carrying some fish. Al remembers what happened when Phil decided it was time for him to learn to drive. And Jase is extremely displeased when he finds out that Missy bought the one thing you NEVER buy at the grocery store. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So you got pontoons. We built a new... We took a pontoon party party barge. Oh, what did you get that? Where'd you get that? The fan on the river? Junkyard. Willie, your brother, knew some people who, a lot of people, these things end up, especially people who build things that float.

These people build docks and the floating part of it, floating docks. So you even got these big floating blocks or you take a party barge. It's 20 feet long, eight feet wide. And I just got to look at it. I said, that will shoot seven duck hunters. The pontoons will hold them up. Most people are thinking party on the water, but you're thinking. Duck blind.

We built an apparatus. Is this the first party board? flying the party boat you've ever built? Actually, in Duck Dynasty, that was the first party barge. That's where the idea. That's right. It was an episode. That's right.

That came not from a producer. It came right out of, I'm banging on my own head. The pontoons that the platform rides on are 20 feet long. They're about this big, about 12, 14 inches. So I'd hold up a lot of weight. So we've got to have a boat run on this one where when the water gets up, we'll be able to get to it. We've got an attachment about a four-horse outboard, a little small motor. Put it on the back, all we want to do is putter.

It's built right beside this area. We're kind of thinning out the brush in an area over there. Well, I can just take that thing with that little four-horse motor and put her right on out in there. It's mobile. And I've already picked a few spots where I'm going to put the blind. the ducks may say we want to go over here. But once we ascertain where they tend to want to go, that's where the blind will end up.

I remember watching one of the episodes we did on In the Woods, and the water was up, I guess a year or two ago, one of the high waters. And we did that episode of you moving those blinds around with your boat. And just me watching it, it struck me. I thought nobody else in America or the world. probably is doing what that is doing. Probably not. Who's moving up blinds around with the boat?

I mean, because he had all these ropes tied to them. People on a party barge, they're sipping an adult beverage. They're worried about it. But the biggest problem with the party barge, which I'm wanting to know if Phil address this, is when you got, let's say he said a whole seven men. Well, if you take seven men, some of them are larger than others. And the ducks come in. Tony Stones, James.

And somebody says, cut them. When seven large men get up in a hurry, the party barreds turns into, what was that ride that was the pirate ship where you go, whoa, the one side, whoa. Because the first time we said cut them, everybody just fired off in the water. The man who is currently speaking, who happens to be our blood kin, my son, your brother, is not educated and weight. So look. Did we not have a weight distribution problem the first time they were built?

But what you do is you make sure that you have the same amount of weight on one end where the boat is, where it goes, and on the other end. So my point is, the seven men are standing right on top of one of the platforms like this. it's underneath. So we're going to have to start sitting by weight. The weight of the boat house over here that's built equalizes that out where if you're right here, the weight of this would hold right there.

I mean, it's big enough and wide enough. We've been through all that. So no, it's a, it's a, I tell you what I could. If I had to start weighing before I'm hunting that, I'm not coming, I'll tell you right. When we all got up and nobody fired a shot and the ducks flew off. So the second time, because you couldn't,

didn't fix it in the moment. Right, right. I said, so the second bunch come in there, the backwater was up, we had moved the blind. I said, cut them. Well, they all got up. I just sat there. They all got up, rocked a couple times, and then I got up and boom, boom. So I thought, yep.

There'd be no problem with that factor. That's been fixed. I want to remember this. I don't know what today is. Today's September. Last week of September. I'm going to remember this conversation. Let's talk about the distribution of weight.

We've got all that figured out. This is kind of like how duck hunting on a pontoon is kind of like when you get on a little plane and they start saying, how much do you weigh? Oh, you go to the back. Most of the blinds or floaters are on logs, Cypress logs, and you've got to distribute those, you know, the way they need to be, widen them out, not all that.

The pontoons on these pontoon boats, that's the one that I'm kind of fired up about because it doesn't rot at all. Right. And it's aluminum. The wood doesn't hold up. Aluminum pontoons. They're pretty good. They don't rust or rot.

Pretty good. So, Jay, you remind him of a story. So we took a mission group to Dominican one year. And there were about 20 of us. I mean, pretty big group. And so, of course, we had to fly. And Gordon was in the group, Gordon, our uncle. and so he was he was not sitting with the most of us were all sitting in the same areas sort of toward the back

but it was one of those situations so they didn't have it quite you know balanced right i guess so they were so the flight attendant comes on the thing and she says we're going to need somebody to volunteer to move to the back so would somebody between rows one through four go to the back well nobody makes a move and who would want to move well right And she said, you know, for weight distribution. So then you've also got that shame that, what if I make a move? So, well, Gordon was the only one from our group that was up there. So everybody's looking up there.

And there were like four people spread over those four seats. Nobody makes a move. And so she comes back on. And she's like, we're going to have to have somebody. Of course, I don't know why she just goes to ask. But anyway, she goes back on things. She said, we don't need somebody to, in the first, in between rows two and, four. So then she,

so south she's zero and in. Here's Gordo sitting there on row three. He's not making a move. We're so tickled in the back because he's not, I mean, obviously she's wanting him to move. Yeah.

But she's trying to do it in a public way. And finally, we just started, we were like, could the man with a fat head in row two A, please come to the back? And the whole plane is just, it's a small plane.

We are laughing. so hard. It was one of the funniest things I've ever said. Finally, Gordon gets up and trundles back there. I was like, uh, take that 30-foot walk of shame to the back of the plane. He just couldn't get it. He couldn't get it. He called denial. But as many problems as I've had on the airlines, it would be hard. I usually wait for the money to come up with, you know, because they're like, we need someone to take the next flight. We will give you 400 virtual dollars, you know. Nobody's moving.

What do you think? I said, it's going to a thousand. When it gets to a thousand, that's when people start meeting. And it does. About five minutes later. I saw one. We actually made it on the plane. I've never seen this for.

And the guy comes on there. And we still hadn't settled this. So he starts doing it from the front of the plane. Yeah. And he gets up to $2,000. Yeah. And finally some guy gets up and runs up there. I mean, I guess he was just like, he said, I'm not really authorized to do this.

It's such a bad system. They overbook it just in case, and then they start, they need an auctioneer. That's right. Then everybody shows up for the deal. Jay's the last one I was on, the last trip I made, I never heard this one before. So the flight attendant comes on, because the mask now is just like, and the guy comes on things. Just a reminder, you need to have your mask on in between sips and bites. Yeah.

Because, I mean, they just passed out some food. get some snacks. And I was like, in between sips and bites, really? I mean, we're taking it off for the sip. You got to put it back on. That's what he said. That was the announcement. I thought, what in the world?

I think I'd say, okay, so let me get this right. If someone starts to die and we have to do CPR or mouth to mouth, would we have to put the mask on in between the mouth to mouth? Well, look, they've now. This is where this kind of conversation. They've actually had to change the little thing. They say if the thing drops down, you know, put it on your nose and tighten it up, you know, for oxygen. Now they have to say, remove your mask first.

As if somebody wouldn't know that, they would try to put it on over the mask. The people that Jesus is talking to in Matthew, they loved the rules. they live by the rules. And the same way in the human race out there, these people, they just love the rules. They love the rules. They make it and you comply. It's something about a power trip, authority, whatever. I'm amazed that when Jesus picked these 12 people from all walks of life,

I'm amazed that he gave them. It kind of works itself out by the time you get to the end. end, they all hit the road. But he gave them more authority than I thought God would give up. But you're right. I think that's, that's why they were so enamored with his authority is because it seems to be human nature to go towards tyranny. Yeah.

Whether to put yourself under it, or other people to then be tyrannical over you. I mean, and I think the pandemic has shown it more than anything. If you really have. No hope if you're lost and you're alone and a pandemic breaks out, this is where it's going. And it kind of, I mean, I don't get hot very often about the media because I don't watch the news like most people. But they keep lumping people in the South together anywhere from calling us murderers, you know, some people for not wearing a mask to just be in the problem. and they don't realize as believers, when you read Matthew 8 and 9 here, we're going to wear the mask most of us for the love of country and fellow people and the vulnerable.

We do it. But are we going to panic and go to this extreme about it? No, we're not because our faith and trust is someone who can heal this stuff and just a flip of his fingers. People fly on an airplane to go to the town. where the football game is going to be played, and they walked through a gate, and I watched it last night in Dallas, Texas,

and a mighty throne came together. About 100,000. Shoulder to shoulder, screaming, and whatever fluids are coming out of their mouth, mask or no mask, were packed like sardines. There's 100,000 of us seated here. I had to ride an airplane with strict rules.

To get there. and there was about 40 on the plane. And I'm going to get within the range of 100,000 people drinking beer. I'm looking around saying, I don't know, I think we're past the mass stage. Well, that's like the other night when North Carolina State beat Clemson in overtime, the whole crowd, which was whatever, 78,000 people. Went on the field. Went on the field.

And not only went on the field, got in, like, tried to get on the 50 yards. line in the circle. Yeah. And I thought, okay. They're not worried about it. If you were ever going to spread something, go do exactly what they do with 100,000 people and they run around like that. You say, that's the way to spread a disease if you want to really spread it.

So something is not adding up here. Well, look, and this started last summer. All the way, I haven't watched the news since the election. Well, this started. This started. No news. I'm out of news. first summer of the pandemic is when this started. We all commented on it then that you mentioned

media, Jay's, these people are hundreds of thousands of people were getting on streets and protesting on the BLM stuff. And everybody's all, but this is a civil rights moment of our history. This is, this is important. It was always like, well, pandemic doesn't really matter now. So I knew then this thing was just, look, it's not something to sit around and be afraid of all the time. To Jay's point, I think that's, I don't live my life sitting around afraid of anything. No, I mean, look, most people have been courteous, but this is a free country, and I'm not going to get bent out of shape because, you know, I went to the grocery store yesterday. They have a sign that says, put your mask on.

I put a mask on. When I went in there, 90% of the people did not have a mask on. And I was wearing one just because the sign said to have one. But there ain't nobody following that. But I'm not going to sit around and start looking at everybody. somebody saying, hey guys, you're threatening the, I'm just not going to do it. I mean, at this point, we get it. Well, you know, they came up, let's take a break. They came up with the term, dad, which is unfortunate for people named Karen, but they came up with a term. They called people,

because there was all these people that were like, you know, either confronting people or turn them in, or mainly they were filming video like a guy was in Walmart. And, you know, He's just trying to find some paint. So he's got a woman on each side of him videoed him. And then they're like, why aren't you wearing a mask? And he's like, I left it in my car. I'm just trying to get some paint. And I'll be out of here in a minute.

I'm sorry. I forgot my mask. You're the reason. And they're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Both from both sides of it. And finally, he just had enough. And he stood up and he cussed them both out. I mean, each of them.

Then he stormed out of the store. I just thought they call those people Karen's. They even, now it's a name. It'll probably wind up in the dictionary or lexicon about people that just not only do, they think they should do it, but then if you're not, they're going to try to make your life miserable. I'm going to use it to incorporate these smooth-faced people that keep winding up in our duck blinds that I didn't invite. I don't know how that keeps happening.

I don't have thought about that. Mandatory, you got to wear a mask. Wear a camo mask in the blind. Let's jump on the fear. of the nation and the current conditions because they can't help but just ease that head out from one because they want to watch.

That's right. So I'm like either get some pain. I never even wore a mask when I was playing like I was Roy Rogers back in the, in a Western, I didn't wear a mask. You know, if the crooks did. Yeah, they were the bank robbers.

The bad guy. Yeah, that's bad dude to wear a mask. Well, somebody commented on that. Now, back in the day, if you wore a mask, you're a bank robber. Now, if you don't wear a one, you're a criminal. The first time they opened our bank back up here, I went inside and everybody had a mask on. And I was like, does this seem weird to everyone in here?

Like all these people are in the bank, including the people, were out there. I said, we're all in a bank wearing masks. I mean, at one time, this would have tripped an alarm somewhere. And the Westman-O. PD would have been, you know, banging on the door. Now we're just like, nah. But now the bank robbers, they say, they send in a guy without a mask as a distraction. And all the carins get on him. So what would the reasoning be, okay, you can go to ball games where there's 80,000 to 100,000 fans, you don't need a mask.

But you do need one if you go in a grocery store. I'm not quite getting it. But they say you should wear one. They just don't when they get. Yeah, there's people, the people, dad, that still want to enforce this, they're saying those people are crazy. They're going to kill us off. You know what? I'm thinking, I'm thinking money talks.

and everybody else shoots the roost, meaning it's over for you. But I'm saying, if you're going to make that much money, they said, they added up all the numbers on the ball games, and they said, this is what we lost because of this mask caper. And when I saw the figures, they said, we got to tell them. Most people have just decided, I mean, 75% of the country now has been vaccinated, almost all older people have, and they just finally said, you know, we're done with that. Yeah, I get it.

They just got tired of it. They've been vaccinated. So they're saying what little chance you had of it killing you, once you get vaccinated, that seems to go away according to them. I don't even know about all that. But so there's, most people just said, you know what, I'm done. I'm not going to do that. And then there's a bunch of people that don't want to be vaccinated, which I'm like,

so don't. I mean, it's up to you. I wouldn't make somebody put a medicine in their body. I mean, you can't do that. I mean, at some point, what, what point? part of we're living in a free country. That's the idea. What does that mean?

There's people doing crazy things that are not, you know, illegal at this point. And I'm like, hey, look, people are weird. What do you think is bad here? I mean, in Australia, which I feel like Australia is kind of like our sister country because, you know, they kind of escape from the Brits like we did, had their own deal. But, you know, they gave up all their guns, you know. They had the old buyback. you know, a while back, bad call.

Because now down there, I mean, they've had very few deaths. I mean, I don't know how many people live in Australia. It's several of me. And they had like just a handful of deaths. They're under martial law or were. I don't know if they still are. Marshall law. I mean, you can't go out.

You can't visit your neighbors. You can't. Well, I can't figure out. They have cracked. It's just complete tyranny. There's way more people dying in accidents now, now that we seem to, You don't have a handle on it with cell phone related car wrecks. And we're not doing anything about that.

I mean, at this scale level where it did, I mean, I just drove back from Tennessee. I had one near wreck. Guess what? It was a woman on her phone driving about 35 in the 70 mile an hour zone. Because she was on the phone. She was on the phone and didn't care. Right. I was just laid on the horn.

Look, she never looked up. I never ignore. I thought, what? I mean, what? Pull over. Do this somewhere else. I almost hit you. Nope.

Nothing. And you're right. What was it? 100,000 people, I think, like near 100,000 people died from opioids. Either OD or suicide related deaths. I mean, I would say that's a pretty good crisis, but it doesn't, it's just like, man, whatever. That's why this is all the more powerful what we've been reading in Matthew on how Jesus was taking each instance of where people were vulnerable or outcast or had made mistakes or something not of their own. And he was bringing healing and hope.

Right. I think you're right. And I think that one we got into the first of Matthew 9. And then I want us to hit a couple of these that we skipped over last time was that. was that was the idea is that the idea having your sins forgiven is more important than whether this guy would have ever walked again or not. That's right. Because in heaven, you're made whole.

So, I mean, that's kind of the whole idea about the spiritual stuff. We didn't talk about the column of Matthew. And I wanted to mention that because there's a couple of really cool things about that. And this is one of those cases, Jay's where I thought that Dallas and the Chosen has done such a good job because they've kind of fleshed out the idea of Matthew in a way that made me think about him. I've never really thought about him. Yeah, we talked about this one day when I think you weren't here on a different podcast, but it's still, it's worth bringing them back up again, and I agree with you. They did a, because you would have to be a kind of a weirdo to be a tax collector.

But it's not what you think, like an IRS agent today. I mean, I actually know a couple that seem like decent human beings, even though, you know, I'm watching. There's a lot of people who hate the IRS. But back in the day, what they were doing, it was just downright. right, corruption and extortion. Right. And they were hated. Which, by the way, part of the new bill, Biden's idea, he wants to add 80,000 more IRS agents.

Oh, yeah. You know, so there you go. That's going to be great for the country. So he calls Matthew at his booth and says, follow me. And then I've always thought it was amazing because he just gets up and he goes, which in Matthew's case, I think more than even the other guys, because he's already talked about the fishermen earlier, you know, in Matthew four or five. And but Matthew is walking away from a lot, both good and bad.

I mean, you know he's excommunicated because of his... He's giving up a lot of money. And he's giving up a lot of money and wealth and status. Well, what good is money really do, if you're by herself. And maybe that was part of it. So I really have kind of imagined, again, the shows help me this. I've kind of imagined that it was, I. I could see him both being relieved to be walking away.

Of course, he's going to Jesus who people. They're showing a man who's chosen kind of identified him as a little bit of an outcast. Right. I mean, people hated him. Right. I don't see how that couldn't be accurate. Yeah, me either. And I think it would have been, because think about it, he's in this day and age, not only,

and we don't like to pay taxes, but, I mean, they were taking these people, they taxed everything. And the Romans were getting the cut. And Herod was getting a cut. And this guy's getting a cut. And so these poor people are trying to run a business. Just like Peter, and they've done a good job with that on the show, you're trying to fish for a living.

Can you imagine we fish for a living? And it was hard enough like it was for us. But you can imagine that you had four more entities trying to get some of your fish money. I mean, you know, and yet that he was kind of the representative because he's the guy actually taking the money. We literally were scrapping to make ends meet, and it was all predicated on the sale or no sale of fish that I had to catch. Right.

I think what makes Matthew, though, stand out is that he then talks about, he tried to convert some of his friends because they were at a party at his house, and he invited his acquaintances. and I mean, I think that says something about it. Hang on down, let's take a break. It was a family of six. You two were there and Willie and Jepp, a family of six, Ms. K and I and U4, operating on a thousand a month. I thought it was pretty remarkable that we were,

it ran rather smoothly, Al. Well, you know, and people have asked me that. Mama's always saying stuff. our whole, my early childhood, and I was like, Mom, I never felt like I was, I didn't have exactly what I needed and wanted. I liked our lifestyle. I liked being able to fish and we went out in the woods, we played. I mean, I mean, it wasn't like I was, you all ever sitting around singing the blues. No, saying, well, I don't have this. And I don't know. I just don't know if I didn't compare myself. I taught you how to live off the land, which, what I realized at a early age,

we were eating way better than most people just because most people go to fast food places and what we're eating is way better than fast food. That's right. I go catch Alpoulos's cat. And I mean, there's this willa lady that lives next to me. We did eat a lot of wild game and fish. Oh, yeah.

And the other night, I had slipped over to Willie's Pond, but I forgot to anything to bring my fish in, which I thought maybe I won't catch any. And so I had three of the biggest crop you've ever seen in your life on three of my fingers. I had it in their mouth. But it looked like I had some kind of weird jewelry system going with just three fish coming out from a glove

because I'm allergic to a scaled fit the outside of them. I eat them fine, but I can't touch it. So I have this glove on, one glove, because I had lost my glove on the way over there. So I go, Michael Jackson, one glove with three fish. And I thought there's a widow lady that lives pretty close to us, which is part of Willie's wife's family. And she was like, what's you got there?

I said, supper. And she was like, that's just so manly. You know what she said? Yeah. Of course, it didn't really register what she meant by that, you know. And then I thought, it just doesn't happen in our culture where somebody just gets up, goes and catches something, and is now going to clean it and then eat it. Yep.

And we did quite a bit of that. I guess it is manly. But I think you make the most of everything because we were doing that. We shot a commercial down there the other day. And when we were walking back up from the old boat dock, you know, where we do the baptism and stuff, I was telling these guys, I was telling them this was our playground when we were kids. And they're looking around. I mean, there's trees and stuff has grown up now.

And I was like, this was our football field right here. If we had extras over, we'd play football. And it was just where you went down to the boat dock. But it was square and it was long. We played football there. I said, see that tree right over there? That was our backstop. That was our baseball diamond.

We had made us a diamond. Of course, you hit, you know, if you pulled one too far, it went in the river. Yeah. Remember that? But you know, look, where does it? I mean, and then we had, and I said, there was our basketball court right over there where those mailboxes are. There used to be two trees there.

And we had a basketball go that you nailed up for us. and we play basketball. We had a complete recreational area on the front two acres of our property. That's just what we did. Well, we live in a cell phone, you know, TV culture now where you just do stuff outside or, you know, catch fish or, you know, like to swim in the river. I mean, it just people gather up. You know, my other neighbor that lives right beside me used to be Willie's lawyer.

He called me the other day and he's like, look, our neighbor across the pond from us. a tree fell in their backyard and they can't they won't but it's hung up on some other trees. I was like, look, you know, get a professional to get, I'm not going to lose my life over there. He's like, no, no, I already got that taken care of. But once it hits the ground, you know, in order for them to sell the house, we have to get rid of that tree. But it'll be in the edge of your yard across the pond. I was like, why are you calling me? He's like, well, I know you have chainsawls.

And I was like, all right, fine. So I'll cut it up and then start to bust a huge tree. So this has been about a three-day venture I've been on the last three days. But what I've noticed is the neighbors are watching. They're gathering up and it's, ooh, the first time I hit the biggest stump, you know, to bust it up. I had to hit it probably 50 times, of course they're watching thinking it's not going to break. but I wasn't sure it was going to bust. But after about that 50th time,

it made that different sound, boom. And I thought, oh, gee, this was fixed me embarrassing. Because I just thought I was weak. I was swinging as hard as I could. Now you're performing. So then when I busted it, look, it was, ooh, ah.

I thought, where are we at in our culture? When the busting of wood is a neighborhood watch event. That's right. You know? Yeah. That we're actually doing this as neighbors. But, you know, that was the thing about growing up down here, Dad. We were, because our grandparents were there, too, and everything was seasonal.

You know, we had school, obviously. But when we weren't in school, there were different seasons and stuff we do. So you had the firewood time. Remember, we'd have to chop firewood. And then you'd have the time for when you did the garden. And so you really kind of, we kind of lived there. I remember when we had the old wooden heater in the living room. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Oh, one of the biggest arguments. My wife, we ever got in. You know, I hadn't cut any wood or whatever in a front came in earlier than expected. Right. She loves a good fire. Well, she bought some wood at a grocery store. Oh, boy.

And I was like, how much you pay for that? It was enough for one fire and maybe a couple add-ons during the fire. And she said, 29-95, I like to fail out. I was like, do you remember the story about Jacob and Esau? I mean, you basically are selling out your birthright for one fire when I can go get this. What's funny is it wasn't about that you couldn't afford it. It was just the principal that you were. It's the principal.

You don't buy firewood in a grocery store or a convenience store. You know, it sounds like that. It sounds like your neighbor Riley. He would never let Shirley eat fish at any restaurant. in town. Well, now, I thought that was going too far. And the reason why I was because I don't want somebody to see you eating fish thinking I'm not catching fish.

Yeah. I remember him saying that. I mean, that was a real rule in their hands. That's a bit extreme. But I see your point. Now that's all that's over, catching the fish to survive, when I'm for about a decade, probably a little longer. Now I look around and say, one, I don't know how I pull that off.

Two, I don't want to do that anymore. Well, let's take another break. We were filming that commercial, and we were using some hoop nets. And we do still, like, you put out a couple last year. Jay's does some time. Yeah. But I thought about it. It's fun.

But I did think about it, Jay's now in our current lives the way they are. We were just kind of using our past life as a prop, you know. I mean, it was like, we're really not. You can tell we are no longer dependent. on that. I could tell that, Dad, by the, how many holes were in those.

I hate to tell you, if you go out there and put 80 nets out again, some of us will be dead before the end of the month. Oh, that stuff will kill you. It's dangerous. Is that when you find that

your emergency is a scale fish? I used to just, after the, we had run the nets, I remember several occasions. I would just line the boat and just float down and just like,

oh, I'm glad that's over. It was like a seal-o. and I was young and in shape back then. I mean, it's a tough way to make a dollar. I'm telling you. So, I don't know, man, we went off the reservation there, but I guess we were talking about taxes is what led us down that road. But I do think it's interesting that it sparked the question that we've talked about before.

And I think kind of probably one of the first major criticisms of Jesus from the Pharisees about his association with people that they deem. not associable. Plus, I've looked at this, so what are y'all's answer to this, to transfer, I think Jason hit on it, and it made more sense to me, I've always sort of marveled at the transfer of power. Look, heal this, get out, that's just Matthew chapter 10, first few verses. As you go, preach this message, the kingdom of heaven is,

which is the hallmark of why we all know the kingdom is here and we're it. Heal the sick, he told them. A lot of transfer of power there, Al. Raise the dead. A whole lot of transfer of power. Cleanse those who have leprosy. Drive out demons. So to Jason's point earlier in another podcast here,

when Jesus came down and said, basically this is going to be an exercise of what it's like with God with us. Well, to transfer that kind of power is the only explanation that he was really with us. Because a lot of them are unschooled, ordinary men like commercial fishermen. And now we're going to start raising people from the dead and healing them of lepros, see like that. But just think of that. I think most we underestimate how much power he gave those disciples. Right. That's exactly right. And they had a rough time of it. Right. And there were some things they couldn't do. These are the people that ran out on him when it came time for the

crucifixion. And you'd just think, but I'm just amazed that he would allow them with that kind of power. And it had to have been a, had to have been a, it had to have been. a temporary, what would you call it, a temporary use of it because they didn't get fully empowered until they had Pentecost. It was almost like a little, like a test run. It was like a phenomenon. But he says, when he gets down to verse 19 of chapter 10, he kind of explains this because he says, when they, because he's like, look, some of you are, you're going to be handed over,

you're going to be flog, you're going to be handed over to governors. And then 19, it says, they'll arrest you. worry about what to say or how to say at that time you'll be given what to say for it will be for it will not be you speaking but the spirit of your father speaking through you so he was you know because our our deal is the spirit was poured out or made available i would think they would be fearful of what they just heard go out and here's what yeah in acts chapter two you know the spirit was made available for for all people there's no doubt it was poured out in a powerful way, wind and fire.

But there's also instances the Holy Spirit was working since he was hovering over the waters in Genesis chapter 1. I mean, he was with John the Baptist from birth. He was in various situations. And in this case, Jesus asked his disciples for help because he said he had just said, the harvest is asked the Lord of the harvest, therefore to send out workers into his harvest,

which I've heard many sermons, people, doing this modern day, but he was actually saying, I need some help. Because if you notice, if you look at big picture, Matthew, chapter 9 in verse 35 through 38, is almost identical to chapter 4

in verse 23 through 25. It's almost the identical paragraph. So right before the sermon on the Mount, if you go back to chapter 4 and verse 23, it says Jesus went through Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sickness among the people. So you fast forward to chapter 9 and 35. It says Jesus went through all the towns of villages,

teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom, and healing every disease and sick. Well, he says the exact same thing, which that was his ministry. He taught, he proclaimed or preached the good news that the kingdom is near and what that meant, and he was doing this healing. Well, then he says, I need more workers. And to me, it's kind of like when he was on the sermon of the mount, sharing what he, you know, saying what this is all about.

Then he shows them what it's all about. And then the next level is they joined him. and what it was all about through the Holy Spirit. Because the first thing he tells him is, look, don't go to Samaria or to the Gentiles. Well, we've already established that he was for all people because he just had the episode with the Romans interruption. And so why was he doing that?

And I think he was just making a concerted effort in Galilee, like we read in Matthew 4, of the people that had the law and was in the middle of all this. He was like, let's make a concerted effort to see how many of them we can help. Let's take your last break. But it also could have been for the 12, too,

to understand what was going to be expected of them. Because, look, they're fairly new. We're early in the game here. They followed him. They're watching him do this stuff, and they're amazed like everybody else and astonished. And now a sudden they turned it in. It's like, you know, when the first time, Dad,

the first time you decided to teach me out of drive. You know, you just pulled over at the harvest foods and got out off around to my side of the truck. And I'm like, what are we doing here? I'm 14. Yeah. He was like, time to give it a whirl. So I drove home from the mill with that stick.

Well, I always said, I'm just sitting and watching people drive. I mean, I wasn't thinking now is my time until you said, all right, time to drive. But this is the same order we all go through as Christmas. Look, you hear the word. at some point you hear the word now it might get like in my case it got my attention that you and mom came to the Lord so I saw

the transformation I saw creation but at some point I heard I was introduced to Jesus right well then as I started studying and I started reliving these types of moments where he's helping people he's healing people and he ultimately dies

and he's buried and right but I literally visualized him demonstrated through the Bible, but I pictured it in my mind as a real historical occurrence. Well, then I'm like you. We pulled over. I've given the range to Jesus, you know, which is what we talk about, repentance and baptism. But then you actually work via the Holy Spirit and become like Jesus. All those verses says, I want to become like him and his death.

And I think that's what happens. Now, we focus on more of the spiritual, but like I say, I think the physical needs and the praying for other people and having compassion on those who are down. And, you know, I got some people in my phone who I've met through either make a wish or various things that we did as a last wish before they die who haven't died yet. I have some of these people on my phone and I have relationships with them. and you say, well, why are you doing that? Well, I got that from Jesus. Because these people, to me, are more heroic because they're suffering and have every reason to quit,

but they continue to just, especially those that are believers that are doing this. You know, right in the middle of all this, all men, 1022, will hate you. I would have thought he said, look, that's going to be a percentage out there that's going to hate you. He said, all of them hate you. you. All will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

When you're persecuted in one place, flee to another. I mean, he's saying, look, if it gets too hot to handle, get out there, run, go to another place. I mean, if I had been one of the listeners around the fire when we're talking on the edge of a hill, and he's telling us, and he's telling, me this, if I'd have been one of them, I'd have been looking around like, whoa, we're, we're, we're into some serious, there's serious downside of what we're fixing to do. Well, and Jay's made the point. I mean, think about how many Jesus can maybe gather up if he visited us now.

You know, all right, boys, here's where it's going to be, you know. Right. You know, get ready to flee from one city to the other. They're going to hate you here. I mean, there's a, there is a lot of hatred out there. So, Jay's made the point that Jesus seems to limit them to just Israel, not only just Israel, but just the core of Israel. And I think that's true, and Jay's one of the reasons, another reason why that's true,

is, you know, Matthew, he takes a whole chapter going through what Jesus told him to do when he sent him out. When you read in Mark 6 and Luke 9, the same account of this episode in both those other two books, which, you know, Luke's was primarily to Gentiles, you know, because that's who he was dealing with and Mark was Peter's version of it. But when you read this Matthew's version of it, a whole chapter, the other two paces, four verses. They don't give you any of this that Matthew did. So Matthew, in his telling of everything was said, the other ones just took one little piece out, you know, just go and don't take any money with you. And that was the only part they

recorded. But Matthew goes through this whole speech that he gives them. And so I think there had to be a reason why he felt like that was important, and we've already established, his audience was definitely the core Judaism. It's specific. He said, go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. Don't go among the Gentile or the Genesis. Right. But he also, I think, to get to the point of showing us how this would work that God uses for all people to share the glory, you know, of God, is that he lists them. He lists the disciples all in like pairs of two because he said I'm going to send you out.

Two by two. But he, so it's interesting to me to see who is paired with who because I feel sorry for Simon the zealot. He had Judas. Well, he had Judas at the end. And he's like, if you watch the chosen, the Simon the zealot, which I don't know,

they're being created there, but they have him like coming from this revolutionary, Right. Etyology, I guess, of like taking things by force, you know, and so here he is with you. What a pair of that is. Yeah, let's whip the Romans. Well, right. Which would have been this was true.

Look, I mean, I'm not saying I disagree. Because I think that was going on to some degree in the. Yeah, I think another interesting thing is that Thomas was paired with Matthew. But his, what I think maybe was his brother, because he, He was a son of Alphus, and so was James, even though he never mentions that they were brothers. But the other ones like James and John went together, Peter and Andrew went together, the brothers went together.

But if these guys were kin, which maybe they weren't, maybe they both had a dad named Alphus, but I was like, that seems kind of weird that you would have these brother combos, but he didn't put them together. I think though there's a principle here that we miss in modern churches, is that what led to this is that verse in 37 in chapter 9, where he says the harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. And some of these disciples, they don't have that glamorous of profiles in the Bible.

I mean, some of them seem to have small roles. Well, that doesn't mean anything. We don't know what all they did. Even when they said a recording about Jesus, remember what John said? He said, look, if we had written down everything that happened, there wouldn't be enough books in the entire world. So in even these guys the same way. But I think the obscure thing that I said that modern churches miss a lot is really these people that are not noticed very much in the churches, they're the ones doing all the work.

And they're not making a big deal about it because they're humble and they just get it. Someone said 20% of churchgoers finance the entire bulk of the contribution. of the contribution. I've heard, I've heard lower, I've heard lower percentages than that. Yeah. But, I mean, that's true. But I mean doing the actual work day to day,

what if you wanted to be like Jesus's ministry, which is why I brought up the two paragraphs that are similar, that was what he did. Well, if you wanted to have Jesus's ministry, you're going to have to get out of that church bill. This is a lot of work. You're talking about going around. I mean, there's a whole chapter in chapter 10 of everything they were doing.

I mean, we're actually putting ourselves in danger here, getting arrested, and trying to, you know, shake up the man here? What are you crazy? I think the most harsh part of the passage was 32 through 39 when Jesus basically tells them, look, I mean, our message is going to divide families, it's going to divide people. Oh, it is. Which is a controversial verse. It is really not.

He's just saying if you put your faith and trust me, we see it. Some people are not coming with us. There's going to be families divided over this. We've seen one child make it and the grandparent and grandmother didn't. The mom, dad didn't. It's just one of about ten of them. We see it all the time. But you got to remember in their context, we talked about this on that John 9 episode,

when Jesus healed the blind guy. and then they pull the parents in and start grilling them. And they're like, we don't know what I mean, he was blind. We know he was blind. They wouldn't even defend him and they kicked him all out of the synagogue. Well, that's what he's talking about. These people are going to be ostracized from Judaism because they've accepted Christ. But to me, that's the hardest part of this message that they had to go out.

It's hard to tell people. But he did encourage him. Stephen, the guy from Jerusalem other day talked to us. and he did make the point, 30 million, 30 million, 30,000 Christians are in Jerusalem, and the rest are either in Judaism or Islam. 30,000's left. He brought up the same point that he mentioned in Matthew 6 about saying, are not two sparrows sold for a penny, and yet if one of them falls to the ground,

your father knows about it, and a famous verse, feel like we should mention it is in 1030 where it says and even the very hairs of your head are numbered so don't be afraid you are worth more so he did say it's going to be dangerous it's going to be but he's also saying my father knows how many hairs are on your head fast forward 2,000 years out from when this was written the jews pretty well i love them that my i'm salvation's from the jews but let's face it out they dug in their heels and they're still dug in. Yep.

As a group. Right. Exactly right. Which is why you have a lot of people still trying to share Jesus. Was the guy you were talking about. Well, First Corinthians 15. If Christ hadn't been raised from the dead, we're all in trouble.

Exactly right. And the faith is futile. Futile. All right. We're done. We're out of time. Later, dudes. And do that.

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