Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 36 | Sadie Robertson’s Wedding, Quarrelsome Women, and No-Good Kings of Israel

Episode Date: December 8, 2019

The guys reflect on Sadie's wedding, Jase brags on his new duck dog, and Phil continues to compare Blue to quarrelsome women. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unachanged. What about you? So yesterday was our best day thus far. This is what day four or five in the duck season? Day four. But we missed Sunday because Phil was preaching. I was speaking. We had Sadie's wedding coming up, which was last night.

Quite the soiree. Oh, yeah. So we missed Sunday, which we only usually hunt on Sunday afternoons, but our afternoon holes just now getting water. So we took Sunday off. And guess what? They say the ducks were everywhere on Sunday, you know. Of course.

I'll call those the devil's ducks. That's devil ducks. Temptation. But yesterday, we actually had a pretty good hunt. We only shot 10. We should have had a few more. But the men in between me and Phil, they didn't shoot very well. You know, we had a bunch of gadwals come in.

about and by the way i wasn't there so he's not talking about me 10 or 12 although i'm not a great shot so good hey at least you're honest you're the only person i'm the only person says i missed three smooth times you know we had 10 or 12 gadwalls come by of course there was no win at the time it was tough and they circled 30 times left and then came back and i thought if they get within 50 I'm shooting them because they've had 30 opportunities to come in. They won't come in. Which one of Phil's guest, he was a what we call a rubbernecker. Even though he was painted and had a little bit, you know,

a little facial hair for brush, he wanted to watch. And we have a shooting porch and then we have a roof. Well, he was him and Cy, because Cy thinks he's invisible. They get up because they want to watch. Now, to Cy's credit, at least he doesn't move a whole lot. But this guy, he was moving a lot. So they got within 50. I raised up.

Miss the first shot. Whoever's shooting on the end, they have an easier time, vantage point, because they're like saying cut them as they're getting up. Everyone else is surprised. It has to react. Well, I missed my first shot, so I doubled my lead and my second shot just one folded. Of course, now they're 60.

My third shot is probably 70, which I'm shooting an extra full choke. It folded. started coming down. Of course, I was kind of on my side. Phil was on the other end. He was kind of out just because he didn't have a good vantage point. So I thought, well, I got two. I wasn't saying I got two like I'm bragging.

I was thinking I got two. How many do we have? Because I brought my dog yesterday. It was his first official duck hunt. So I was wanting to know, all right, where do I send my dog? Which was pretty much the whole topic of the morning because Phil and I have had this running deal about he has the greatest dog ever but it has an asterisk his dog blue the asterisk is he has terrible manners he whines and yelps like when you blow a duck call he's well it kind of defeats

the purpose of blowing a duck haul so anyway i said well how many we get turned out we got two gadwolds it relates my animal in this case but uh a quarrelsome woman It's like a constant dripping. Why do you keep comparing the women and the dogs? I don't, that is not. Better a little space on the roof than being inside the house with a quarrel from one. I know your heart is good and you love all people and you love all animals, but it's just a bad. The writers of the Bible said.

It's a bad comparison. But my dog is like a constant dripping because he's moaning. and I've got ear plugs in that enhances my hearing, which makes the moaning sound three times as loud as it normally is. And he's closest to you anyway. And he's closest to me. He's all excited about duck hunting, but he... Today was his first day, and he...

I got him on a Prozac regiment. Yeah, we talked about that. Somebody said that would work, so I got him on Prozac. Didn't work. His tail, the speed of his tail bumping on the blind, used to be bump, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, pretty fast tail wag. He's wagging his tail.

He's a dog. He's excited. So that's how a dog shows excitement. He wags his tail. But in this case, the Prozac regimen is slightly slower. Boom, bomb, pump,

pump, but either way, it scares ducks. Yeah. So you can tell. You can tell by Phil's demeanor. I just couldn't cut the dog's tail off because he's excited. I just couldn't do it.

Sentimental. Which would be, some dogs, do that too. Yeah. Which was something I looked into, but it is. That's a bit barbaric at this stage. So you can tell my dog, look, you've never been there before.

He was a little weird at first. And yours is a yellow lab? He's the yellow lab. His name is Biggin. But I'll have to say, once he kind of got acclimated, he was pretty impressive. He did really well, especially for his first time, which I mean, because in dog training, You got to take them at least 20 to 30 times for they kind of get the gist of it.

I understand what you're doing. And what their role is. But everybody, you know, first Phil was like my dog's better. He would have done it quicker. Because I get it. Phil, you know,

we got a competition going here. But then Phil said, you know what? Because we got five mallards and killed them all and they were scattered in every direction. And the dog just like a machine, hand signals,

whistle blowing. He got everyone. It was getting more efficient as time. with each duck shot. So Phil said, well, this dog might make one. And I leaned over to Jay and I said, that means this dog is doing awesome. That was classic dad understatement. So I got easy.

So why do you use them? We use them because they save you time. It's better that they get wet and cold than you walking out there, stumble and falling with your waiters, water in your waiters, first one thing and the wind's blowing and the ducks are leaving in a hurry. Well, a good dog is a pretty handy thing to have. Oh, they're handy. He's a Labrador.

And they're fun to watch. Some department in saltwater, so let's make dogs that retrieve ducks. And they become your, they become part of the team. I mean, you know, you consider, he's where dogs specialize is their nose. Right. Because like when I'm a pretty good down bird getter, but I, you know, I can't use my nose. I lose sight of him.

It's over. But he picks up at scent. And so they bring, they bring something to the table. When God made the animal kingdom, you just think of the dogs that herd sheep and the dogs that, like the one that's chasing the terrace down through the top.

Oh, yeah. The German Shepherds. They retrieved ducks for us. And a lot of them point coils, bird dogs or whatever. You just add up all the skill sets that the animal world has dogs, especially.

It's pretty impressive. Well, it's funny because we would say going back, you know, if you said, I ingest, said salt water did that. I know, I picked that up. I'm sure the other. If I don't clarify somebody,

who he's a result, we said salt water made dogs. I'm sure they got that tongue in cheek. So we would say that's why a dog is man's best friend, right? Sure. He's helping us eat. he's helping us, you know, hunt.

He's helping us in every, but it's funny, most people. Blind people that lost their side, whatever. They have, you know, the sea, you're saying, what a, what a skill set for an animal to do that. Well, plus. Well, when my daughter had all those surgeries, they recommended, they said, you don't get her a comfort dog. You know, I was like, do what? They're like, I'm telling you. And so we did one of the greatest things.

It's a distraction. And it's like the dog can almost sense that when, It's time to, she just had surgery and she's real protective. So our pal, Kevin Neiman, who's a counselor, was here and he's up in Tulsa. You know, he had a dog named Bailey, a female black lab. And she, you know, he took, she was in the counseling session with it. So he said, you know, he's sitting there and he's counseling with a person or a couple, you know, and somebody starts crying or they're getting mad, you know, because you're dealing, you know how counseling is.

And that dog will come over as soon as the emotion rises. The dog gets up off her bed and she walks over to where this person is and she just stands there or sits down next to him. And this person, and it immediately brings a calming effect into the session. And Kevin said, you know, without them even realizing it, they start reaching out patting the dog and you just watch the emotion go back down again. And so she's like assisting him in working with people having trouble. So it's amazing with that. Yeah, yeah. That's why a lot of people, you know, people probably find it.

fascinating. We're talking about this because they're like, well, you're hunting animals and shooting them, but, you know, we're also getting the idea that, you know, in the order of things, Romans chapter one, various other verses, you have God, humans, you know, and animals. And it's fine. I mean, I got, there's 30 tame ducks behind my house, you know, but, I mean, push came to shove if I got hungry, they'd be 29. I saw some people.

I don't mind enjoying them either, you know. I saw some people on social media that were. were like, why would they send that dog in there? I'm talking about the famous dog that Trump had the other day. But I was like, because it's a dog. I mean, like, he's awesome. He did great. He got the bad guy.

But the reason he's sending the dog in before the guy is because he's a dog. It's not a guy. It's better that they're expendable. Well, that's exactly right. So to circle back to my story. So then three Mallards come in. And, well, it was five. And I raised up left to right.

Now I got to jump on everybody because he came off Phil's corner. And I went, bomp, bomp, bong. Now, everybody's shooting. So I wasn't claiming, but it just looked like the three that I shot at in a line. Instantly folded when I pulled the trigger. Well, the last one was out there, probably 60 yards. And so I said, boys, I cut that last one at 80, which was really 60. And he's shooting a 20-gauge.

Open-bore. And so everybody's looking, because Jay's looking at me, because the duck, now, regardless of who shot him, the duck, like, folded as in a lot of force hit the duck, and it just shh. And so everybody knows that a 20-gauge pop gun is not capable of rendering that duck, dead on impact. Five different people. saying in their mind, I got that one. Well, you know, how do you know?

Sometimes you can replay the video and say, you know, somebody's pointing wheel over there, someone or another shooting up in there, and you said, no, it wasn't usually got that. Size's famous answer to that is, hey, boys, you clean that duck and you'll, and you cut into them, you'll find out it's 20 gauge number four. He told that story yesterday, and the math was not at it.

And he's like, you know, we went back, you know, me and Phil, we killed 80 ducks, which back then, you know, you could, the point system, you could kill more. So, wow, what about the question? Tim of our listeners. You're going to let me tell this story. You don't know. You don't told 20 minutes. Phil, I mean, Soss said he'd pick up the duck and he was looking at it's a 16 gauge,

because he was shooting a 16 gauge, you know. And so he said when it was all over, it was 65 to 5. I was like, well, I thought there were 80 ducks, sigh. He's like, no, 65 to 5. It's like, Si, your story's not that. No, it's classic, sigh. So what we're talking about, what we've been talking about is because dad's ready to roll. So we're going to jump in.

Well, he's excited because we're talking about Jesus. That's exactly right. He gets fired over about that. It's just causes excitement. So where we've been and sort of, you know, the 30,000-foot views, we've been kind of looking at the Old Testament. and sort of how as we walk through, you know, the history of Israel, it's really been, everything's been pointing towards what's coming when Jesus came.

And we left off with the first kings, you know, we talked about Saul as he kind of gets cranking. So let me give you a little bit of background. Then we're going to jump into where we're talking about today. So Israel as a nation basically had 39 kings and almost all of them were bad. I didn't look back, but I think it's maybe. six were considered to be quote-unquote and nobody's perfect but I mean good kings in the sense they weren't evil most of the time when you read about a king in Israel it says he did evil in the eyes of the Lord you know it's just and then it talks about it's kind of like Christianity everybody has

sin that's right but your heart is what's you know the driving point I guess that's a good way to look at so basically six out of 39 had a good heart yeah which is not good percentages in terms of leadership but that's what they were but even david they focus on that they're like when he was a murderer and an adulter but he was also a man after god's own heart that's right we get hung up on the sin because we can't really see the heart right so that's a great point so we're wrong his won't his walk proved he was a guy well and his response to sin i mean i was i was having a conversation my daughter not too long ago and she was like i don't understand why we share all our faults why because like I was studying with some of her friends,

and I was like pointing at hers, like, you know, just throwing it out like common knowledge. And she was like, I mean, that's embarrassing. Why do we share our faults? And I said, because we, I quoted the John 3, you know, I said, we want to display that the transformation that happens in us is God's transformation, that he takes our sin and he forgives us so we can be open, we confess our sin.

we're honest. It's called living in the light. Contrasted being in darkness where you try to hide. And you think about sinful life, the cover-up is always worse because it breeds the line. And how do you know if anybody's ever telling the truth? So the era of the monarchy and the kings, a lot happened. And this is a ton of history that we're just going to talk about in a couple of minutes to sort of bridge the gap. But basically, the nation itself split into two, under Riaboa, which was Solomon's son. So you basically had Saul, David, Solomon.

You had a United Kingdom. Twelve tribes, just what we read about. You know, basically God gave it to them. They could hold it for three kings. And then the split begins, which shows you the nature of mankind. And what do you think God's plan was for this shadow? To what?

What do you mean? Well, I meant, like, people that read that, they're like, well, why is this even in the Bible? I was just wondering what you would Well, you would say it. Because I think it's just what I just said. I think it shows you when it comes to human nature and rulership, when you're always going to fall short and fail.

Every time you read about in the Old Testament, they would take their eyes off of God, put it on either a leader or an idol or, you know, we're going to do it this way. We're going to be like the people of Canaan. And so they went out and basically bowed down to these Asherapoles and had all this sexual immorality to try to somehow produce crops and all this. And God was like.

God is infallible. Yeah. And we're not. And we're not. That's what I was getting. I was thinking of all the kingdoms, thinking about all the wars and we always think in a physical way. If you set the precedent, because what happens is the greatest king on earth at a certain

time, he's susceptible to flaws making the errors in judgment, which takes his kingdom, you know, to look at him in a negative. like, or to death. I mean, that's the main one. They're like, kill the king. And somebody else rise up. Well, you know, Jesus is eventually going to come. Those two factors, you think about it, he had no flaws.

He never made a mistake. He didn't give in to temptation that would distraction or would, from a political view, would make him not desirable. And then he was indestructible. Well, that, okay, you're the king of kings if you had those. those two things going for you, which is why I think you read all that. It's so depressing,

and it so much mirrors our history in all, not just Israel, but in all of life. Whoever has the biggest thing. We've killed him, so we're done with him three days later. He's up out of the grave, and you say,

even his enemy said, you're not going to get him. Right. You're not going to get him. Right. And beyond, it's also, it's important,

as to your point. which is a good one, as to why you would even study this in the Old Testament, because man, it's easy to get bogged down on the history of it. But when you think about it, the kingdom splits. You've got 10 tribes up north and you've got two down south. And those little two, they're called Judah now, and you've got north of Israel. And what happens is you've got all this false worship that goes on because they don't have the temples. So they're not able to do what God told them to do.

They can't go down Jerusalem worship. We're our own nation now. Yeah. All that matters because when we start. in which we're going to look at some of the Gospels. And when you look in there contextually, that's very important to know the history of the region because when Jesus goes up and, you know,

there's this woman at the well, you know, he's in Samaria. That's an area that's been, you know, taken away for 700 years. They didn't even know who God was. I mean, she went all the way back to Jacob when we get there. But so it's important to know a little bit of background about what was going on in the Gospels. Well, I agree. You know, they don't know.

And when I went to Israel, you know, was that two years ago? I guess. That's why all that history that, you know, sometimes when you get bogged down, it seems a little boring. Right. But when you're looking around at the places you read about, it does something to you. Number one, you think, how did these guys, they got it all right here. But two, you just look at it from a bigger picture.

I noticed Willie, have you noticed that he just got back from it? Oh, yeah. He's just on cloud. You know, if you look at it out, it was in fact, big guys. time mentioned the woman of the well entrenched of racism oh yeah they they they you know oh they weren't even allowed to speak to each and the reason why is because they they saw them as less than pure because they weren't the chosen little two down there at the bottom see what I'm saying so it's like oh those people have been under you know foreign room we could learn a valuable lesson from

that well we were outside of them because we were gentiles by the way a lot of people say every time I read the Old Testament, there's so many warring factions and so much slaughter going on at all the time, all the time throughout the entire Old Testament. What they forget is 2,000 years later, when Jesus finally shows up, the prediction being made, Jesus is coming, Genesis all the way to Malachi and all the wars and the ups and downs of the Jewish nation, and what you're talking about, the various kings, nothing has changed the aisle about humanity and wars. No.

We're still at each other worldwide, just like they were, with far less people. But the warring tribes were still there. The racism was there. And it's only done away with when everyone bows to God and puts their faith in Jesus, the ones that's indestructible. And all the other gods.

All the other gods, you know, there's still that going on today. So you see all these things that are battled out. So the thread that I want to pull on today for us is when we get to David, who is the second king, you know, in Israel, but he's actually God's chosen because God knew Saul was not going to work out. You know, essentially, when you read the Old Testament from the perspective, we get to get the insight because we knew what God was thinking. And he was like, this guy's not going to work because you picked him for the wrong reasons.

You know, so he had his guy. which is interesting because you just mentioned that about David. David had a lot of flaws like we all do, but that heart was consistent toward God. And you read Psalm 51, which, by the way, to me, is one of the greatest Psalms out of all of them. It is a person who is just pouring out

of what a mess I've made of my life. Nearly every story and all the characters and all the ones in the Hall of Faith, the Bible goes into, to make sure it usually points out their flaws, their mistakes. Right. Just about every one of them.

That's why I brought that up on those two qualities. The passage I was thinking about, because we asserted our view that we believe, once the Holy Spirit was poured out in Acts 2, and Peter, who had made that confession that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of Living God, when he shared and introduced Jesus and why he died and how he was raised,

when the people heard that, we believe right there in that moment, the kingdom of God was formed on the earth because people who repented and were baptized for forgiveness of sins, they then received the Holy Spirit, which was heaven, a heavenly quality, God's deity. Which had never been available, who had never been available, the Spirit. Well, the Spirit had come on people, but not necessarily in people. I mean, now you have the King. kingdom of heaven, you know, Peter at the gates, you know, as they say, the gate was, I went over and visited,

you know, he, by that sermon, those people that respond, they were baptized, you know, the kingdom we say is here. And so now the weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world, because weapons of the world, take down the king or accuse the king. That's basically the two areas. Bloodshed. Yeah. And, but, I'm getting that from one of my favorite passages in the Bible is 1 Timothy 6. I'd like to read it. Paul was charged in Timothy because of the opposition and persecution he was getting. He tells him in verse 12, he says, fight the good fight of the faith, which he's not talking about, you know, with a stick or a weapon.

It's a spiritual warfare. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession, which is the same confession Peter made. Jesus Christ is the Son of Living God. He is the king of kings. In the presence of many witnesses, in the sight of God who gives life to everything, which is something we frequently talk about on this podcast,

he is life. And of Christ Jesus, and this is what we talked about in an earlier podcast, who while testifying before Pontchus Pilate made the good confession, you know, I believe that's when he asked him if he was a king. You know, and he's like, hey, I'm not even. from this place. But you're right, I am a king. I charge you to keep this command without spot or blame

until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time. And then he makes this statement, which is full of why we put our faith in Jesus. God, the blessed and only ruler, the king of kings and Lord of Lords, who alone is immortal, and who lives in unapproachable light,

who no one has. has seen or can see to him be honor and might forever. I mean, what a, that's our battle cry. That's who we follow and serve through faith. Right. And it's interesting because when you read Hebrews 11 and 12, as we've done frequently on the podcast, you'll see, as Jay said,

when Peter comes along, the aspects of the kingdom have always been there, but they went public when Jesus was raised and left. and then sent the Holy Spirit down. The kingdom went public. Because you read in Hebrews 12, he says, you've come to Mount Zion, you've come to a heavenly Jerusalem,

you've come to angels and joyful assembly, you've come to those who have been made perfect, you've come to the church of the firstborn. He lays out all those elements of the kingdom. And what's interesting is, all those people that live in the Old Testament, they didn't realize the kingdom was near then. Faith, response to God,

but they were just living under that system and they couldn't see. it. And so Jesus comes along and they think, well, where is it? Are you going to restore it? Remember, the last questions is that they still were missing it right up until the moment when it was unveiled. They kept thinking it was a physical kingdom. That's right. It's hard for people said it. That's why the book of Revelation, because it had been a physical kingdom. That's right, up until that point. I know we're getting a revelation one day, but that's why it's really more about celebrating those who have given their life in a physical way in Jesus.

I mean, that's what it's about. Because you think about all these main characteristics. I studied with a guy one time who, you know, I was asking probing questions. Have you ever had a religious experience? He's the one that wanted to study. But he was like, well, I never can't get by from the fact because when I read all the historical accounts of all these men, they all died horrible deaths. I mean, if there's a God, why? It was kind of the argument of why do bad things happen to, you know, to get people.

And I was like, we don't understand the fight we're in. you don't take threats as of we're going to kill you if you keep following Jesus. And I've always said it's one of the greatest evidences that there is a God. Because if all these Peter and Paul and Silas, you name them all who died rough deaths, if they really hadn't seen Jesus raised from the dead, why in the world would they say, yeah, go ahead and kill me. Right. It defies light.

Not all of them would do that. They would say, okay, wait a minute. We made this up. It was a story. Somebody would have come forward. Somebody, at least one, but none of them did. And we've seen the same thing in our modern culture, but nobody really understands. You remember that girl at Calabond High School and the guy was, he was killing, you know, teenagers.

And he would stick his head in the room and says, is there any Christians in here? Well, you know, that was weeding out people raising their hands because they were putting two and two together. But there was a girl there said, yeah, she stood up and he killed her. but and people say well why in the world because because people of faith like us and her we would rather die than deny than I because I know if this is going to be real to me and this is really in my own faith when I was a teenager this is when I got really bold because the persecutions that I was undergoing and I thought what are they going to do to me worst thing they're going going to do is kill me and I know I'm going to live forever so I'm not taking any lip

of some guy who has no clue on how we got here, what we're doing here. Here's what they miss. Jesus has been resurrected. Peter had deserted him, deserted, along with the rest of them. He said, Peter, the third time, he said to him, Simon, son of John, do you love me?

Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time. Do you love me, he said, Lord, you know all things. know that I love you. Jesus said, feed my sheep. I tell you the truth. He's talking to a commercial fisherman who he had chosen as one of his disciples, but when the heat came. Who had denied him through who had denied him and his life became endangered. He hit the road. You say, well, he's out with beyond return because anybody who runs out on Jesus blows it big time. You're out. Well, when you were younger, Jesus talking to him, you dressed your son. You dressed your and went where you wanted.

But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go. You got a rough deal coming up there, son. Watch. Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death which Peter would glorify God.

If you zero in on that and Peter who was spoken Acts chapter 2 30 years later he writes two little letters first and second Peter and in that second Peter he brings that that moment up he said I'll always remind you of these things these things are add to your add to your faith goodness to goodness knowledge to knowledge self-control to perseverance godliness brotherly kindness but love he said you do that, he said, you'll never fall. Then he says, I'll remind you of these things,

even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have. I think it's right to refresh your memory. Listen, as long as I live in the tent of the body, because I know that I will soon put it aside. You said, put what aside? His body, his tent. as our Lord Jesus Christ

had made clear to me he went back to when Jesus said Peter you're young now and you can go where you want to go he said but there'll come a time when someone else you'll stretch out your hands and they're the ones going to lead you

where you don't want to go he said you're going to die a tough death son now watch so Peter just said I'll make every effort to see that after my departure when he dies, he's looking at his death as a departure far from lights out. That was brutal. I can't believe

God will let one of his own disciples die. That kind of death. It's all about Jesus and the resurrection and you're not going anywhere except to be with God. You just leave your tent. He called it a departure. It makes me feel a lot better there, Jase. when God tells me that physical death, you are just departing your body. Oh, yeah. And when Jesus comes back,

you'll even get that back in a glorified form. So if you look at physical death, he's conquered it for us. And to prove your point, what's the one thing that changed from the Peter in the courtyard who was fearful about what was going to happen to his leader versus the one on the riverbank there,

you mentioned on the bank of the, he looked and saw him, he saw a resurrected. And when he saw that, he said, we've got this thing here now. That's right. All of a sudden, then he's like, yeah, whatever. He's the one I ran out on who, bad move, you know. Exactly right. Well, wasn't it the illustration where the person came up there and said,

what if a person is married seven times, you know, at the resurrection, who will, you know, be his husband and wife, which Jesus made that question just looked like in between the lines. He's like, what an idiot for asking that question. But it's something I thought about, you know, how old will we be? You know, because we're humans. Will babies be grown? You know, you ask what this question?

Yeah, I mean, it's like at the wedding last night when Sadie made that reference about, well, how is Jesus, you know, going to come? Won't we burn up by the sun when she was a kid? She said that. And then she's like, oh, never mind. He's probably going to come at night to get around from us like being scorched on our way up by the sun. But at the end of that, he said,

you know, you're ignorant, you don't know the power of God, which is the number one thing, that he is life. I mean, it's impossible. That's when an Acts 2, it was impossible for Jesus to stay dead because he's God. He can't die. And so when you start really believing that, what is like when unfortunate things happen, kids die or whatever? And we've all had those tough conversations and trying to deal with people.

and we're like, it's fine. Look, I'm telling you, death is not a problem. It seems tragic, and we mourn because we're going to miss them, and this is difficult. It is not a problem. I mean, it is 100%. It's not lights out. It's not a problem. But he goes on to saying that parable, I guess you would call that a parable.

It was a story. He said, you know, with God, all are alive. Yeah. Because he is life. He's not the God of the dead, but of the living. and he was talking about individuals, you know, Moses, you know, the burning bush. But he makes that statement after that, because he says, because to God, all are alive. I just thought that was an interesting.

He controls life. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, he was saying, they're still here. Right. That's why the transfiguration. He looked at all right. Where was he talking to Mojas and Elijah? I thought they were long gone. No.

Humans just have a hard time when it comes to this. their death, acknowledging that Jesus was dead and he came back to life. But all this transformation with Jesus' followers who eventually became martyrs, you just think if you saw a guy that was dead, you were 100% sure, not 99, you were 100% sure he's dead. Then he comes back and talks to you and says, look, I want you to go be my witnesses, you know, I'm going to give you the Holy Spirit to help you. Well, you've become the most dangerous person on the planet,

which is going back to the kingdom being here and the king of kings. You cannot kill us. You think you're going to kill us. Oh, no, we're not going anywhere. We'll be back sooner or later. No fear of death. No. It's an amazing thing.

So what happens to that is you become where persecution doesn't bother you as much. By the way, someone would say to us, you say, well, would Jesus have to appear to you to convince you that there is a resurrection? of the dead, would he have to appear to you, Phil, in person standing there saying, keep the faith, and then he disappeared? Well, I'm like, would it change what he did, his death, burial, and resurrection if he appeared to me every 15 minutes? I already believe it. So he said, well, if he appeared to you, that would sense the deal.

I said, the deal has already ceased because if he appeared to me, and I started running across America, I say, y'all not going to believe this, but I saw Jesus and he told me to keep the faith, it would cause me more trouble than it's worth. Because I already believe it in this story, even if it was true. You wouldn't believe it more. No. That's me. That's what people have a hard time I've said.

You either believe it or you don't. Oh, I believe it. Right. So it affects my life. I just read what these guys said, and my first reaction, when you read through the Bible and you start reading about the resurrection of the day. you're like, how in the world that these prophets do all this predicting that would happen? Right.

And all the guys said, boy, we fixed to tell us a humdinger of a lie here. We're all going to get together. And we're going to tell the lie even to the point of death. We'll die for this lie, we're telling it. They wouldn't have done it. Well, to your point, the verse, the last verse in the book of John, which John is my favorite gospel right after this conversation he has with Peter about feed my sheep, do you love me? You're going to be carried to a place you don't want to go, which history says he was

crucified upside down at his own request because he didn't want to, you know, he wanted to have the humility to not be crucified like Jesus. He didn't want to be affiliated with that. I believe that. But the last verse I always thought was interesting when John wrote, Jesus did many other things as well, if every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. And I've made this point about a lot of things, but you think, well, how come he didn't write them all down? Because it wouldn't matter.

At what point do you say, I believe this? I mean, which I do like that the passage is in there, because people say, well, we've read everything Jesus did. No, we got a verse that said, there's not enough room in the world to record what he did. So why not? Because it wouldn't change it. Yeah, I'm 73 years old.

At 28, when Bill Smith, a preacher, when he told me and showed me the verses on the resurrection of the dead, that is when I said, I am on the wrong side of this thing. I'm fixed to get on the right side of this. I said, how in the world? My question was, it's a dumb one, but I said, how in the world did I ever miss that? For some reason, for 28 years, I never had thought about the resurrection of the dead.

It was all about me. But once I heard about the resurrection of the dead, I was like, okay, I got it now. and it changed my way of operating. I mean, on the spot. Well, the passage. I've been here ever since. The passage that says he blinded the minds of unbelievers talking with the evil one.

Your eyes were finally open. My eyes were open. And then you saw it for the first time. It's not like it's the first time you ever heard it. It's the first time you ever heard it and believed it because of where you were. I didn't know immortality was hanging in the balance here. Exactly. Once you got down to that at 28, I have a couple of degrees.

I'm no dumbo. But I thought, good night. I said, no, I got to have that. Well, you start growing and we make mistakes. I think people think that all of a sudden, you know, they got to be more sure or it's more how you respond to it. You know, you make a mistake and you think back and said, no, I'm convinced. Jesus came back from the dead. You know, what am I doing?

And you respond differently. That's why we said it's not so much what we do and the mistakes we make. It's how we respond to it. in the state of our heart. You know, I mean, we easily get distracted based on circumstances. I've said this many times, but I'll continue to say it. For our listeners, you got a better story. All your sins removed.

Guaranteed to be raised from the dead. Constant mediating work, the power of the spirit, peace of mind while you're here. Love God, love your neighbor. You say any other stuff? I said, no, I'd have covered. Just do that because of what he's done for you. It's immortality. But those who don't believe,

they just think it seems too simple to believe. Because if we, I mean, somebody walked in here and they said, well, here's the kingdom of God, the most powerful thing on the planet, because we have the Holy Spirit. By the way, one of my deals was when I was being studied with, but the guy who talked about the resurrection, I said, I don't want to be unkind here, but I said it's almost sounds too good to be true.

And he said, it's probably too good for all of us, but it is true. That was his answer. Yeah, it was pretty good. I thought, hmm. But what stood out with that wedding last night to you? Well, it's funny because I was about to say there was a lot of things, but I'll let you, one thing to me, and I never heard this before. I mean, we, we, Sadie grew up with us and because we were on the show as she was a teenager, along with your kids and the rest of Willis, you know, we watched them sort of go from kids to adults.

But last night in the wedding, the guy doing the wedding said, and I'm assuming this because Sadie told him because she was not alone, he said, you knew about Christ as, as religion until you were 17 years old was what he said last night. He said, and then you fell in love with Christ and had a relationship with it, which was very powerful. Because in other words, like a lot of, and you know, Sadie was a good girl. A lot of her good kids, I mean, not perfect, but good, but good, you know, in terms of what you see, their fruit. But it was like, I'm doing it all for the reasons. I got good parents.

I got a good family. But then she crossed over at 17 in her mind, I think that's when she was like, it's more than just religion. and this is like a relationship with the Lord. And she started speaking boldly. And she spoke last year, because I asked her granddad, I said, how many people did she speak to last year? He said, 500,000. Yeah.

I said, that girl spoke to 500,000 people is he the last year when I asked him or a year before that. Yeah, a couple years ago. I was shocked. Yeah. I said, well, even last night, we were looking at all the people that were there. there was the guy from the fresh prince you know the guy that she was competing against he was there I mean all these people I kept bumping into celebrities and I was like oh wait a minute I

was a singer you know the guy that sang he sings a spiritual songs uh what was this name tarren well taran yeah when he said his name was torn and I thought that's an unusual name the only time I've ever heard that is that guy that sing spiritual music I wasn't you know this is the guy that's the guy And Missy was like, oh, I love that song, Nome that you sing. And I was feeling like an idiot because I thought, oh, this is the guy. But you know how you meet you people? And you're like, I thought you'd be bigger. I thought you'd be.

It was amazing. As much pageantry as it went on there, I'd hate to know what the bill was for that last night. Next time we have Willie Al will ask us if he tells us. I will say this regardless. And I mean, that poor tennis court, it got transformed into a like a scene of of the Lion King. I thought there were going to be animals, cartoon characters come out of the wilderness.

You're not showing respect. That was way more than a tennis court. Well, that's where it started. It had a hard bottom, but this thing had a roof with bright lights and everything. You know, he built a wall. Everything was good, but the sound system. Well, I was going to get to that.

Willie built a wall. Because I've been making jokes at him. I'm like, what are you building a wall and trying to get the rednecks to pay for? But he built out. It was a beautiful wall. So it could have, the ground could be flat for that city that they created. They called it a tent.

And I said, this is not a tent. This is like some kind of going back in time. Well, you say it was like, to me it was like the lion, the witch and the wardrobe. I mean, when they walk through the wardrobe and they come out to Narnia, you know. Oh, that's the way I was. That's the way I felt last night. I was like, I'm in Narnia. I could not believe it.

I talked to the groom and his parents. And I said to them, I said, well, they said, what do you think? You know, I said, well, I said, we've come a long way. I said, because when Ms. Kay and I got married, it was $10 for the blood test in those days, to see if you had some kind of disease or whatever. And I said, in $15 to the Justice of the Peace, the whole thing lasted about 15 minutes, $25 bucks, and the marriage, the ceremony was over. I mean, did the judge do a ceremony?

Huh? Did he like? He said, you want her? I said, yeah. And he said, give me $15 sign right here. That was the wedding ceremony. It almost didn't even seem like it was legal, but I guess it is. It's making me feel real fortunate to be here.

Touching. Well, what I was going to say is what stood out despite all that, which I think you were right when you leaned over and told mom, I think this is a little. much. Yeah, I agree with that. What stood out because they had all this there and then the sound didn't work the first 15, 20 minutes, which was very frustrating. Which included your part, Dad, because Dad was saying the prayer, the first prayer, and he had a few things to say. I thought I was going to have to leave, Phil, when you were praying. Because Phil, I realized, because I've spoken

enough times to know when the mic's not working, there's no way to win. It's awkward because you start hollering, but people can't hear it. There were hundreds of people there. And if you start hollering, the mic kicks in, then you blow everyone. Phil. Phil's praying, and all of a sudden the mic kicks in. So what did he say? He said, God works in mysterious ways whether the mic is on, but he was still hollering. He was saying, you have to speak louder because you never know where this thing is going on. He was like having a conversation about the mic with the Almighty with us.

It was an awkward. It was hard. Jason is acting. I just figured somebody in the back over. I did like what I say. I didn't put the censor to me. I didn't know what I was going. No, no, no, it wasn't just you.

No, because then, yeah, continue. But I'll say this. And the mic did start working eventually. Thankfully. Better. I mean, but I thought this is the most Jesus-centered wedding ceremony. And I've been to a lot of weddings. I've done a lot of ways.

That was the most Jesus-centered wedding I have ever seen. So that I was proud that she was my niece and her husband now. I mean, the things that they wrote. to each other. I mean, you could tell they were really long, but you could tell nobody wrote that for them. I mean, how articulate and how inspiring were those. They were exchanging their vows. I thought they were going to say, you know, I love you, you know.

Oh, it was like two sermons toward each other, which was amazing. To me. Yeah. And by the way, just, you know, everybody's looking for ideas. I'm sure we're speaking a lot of people that will get married. This is something. And I've done 100. I don't know, 120 weddings.

And so I've seen a lot of things that people have done, but they did something I've never seen done at a wedding and found it very inspiring. So when the guy, what's his name, Taryn? What's the guy said? Tarn. Tarn. So when Taryn was singing, he was singing a couple of worship songs,

they walked over. And you know, you've seen people do a candle and do sand, and I've seen all these different things. They took communion together. And I just thought, man, that is. unleavened bread. Yeah, that is so powerful because what they were saying was, is we're with God.

You know, we say it all the time. Three, you know, three are better. Like that. And well, and the three are better, they tied the rope. Yeah. I've seen that before. Stranes because they had the two individuals, Christian and Satan,

and then they had the God, I mean, the father of the son, which I thought was awesome. That's pretty interesting. Somebody leaned over and they said, you know, when we got married, we just got married. I didn't have anything to take home with me. you know well that's a couple told me i did their wedding they were like i feel she did 25 years ago you married us and we took home nothing i said well you're still together yeah i mean come on give me

some credit for something it's a good reminder you know that's great rope and then both families at the end i thought that was really powerful they all gathered up in that circle when you all pray well basically you were in on that i think weren't you yeah no you didn't go so but even us watching it i felt like which i'm sure was what they were they wanted to do was we we were we were we were worship God in a worshipful moment. And most people don't think about that. Unfortunately, in settings like that. And it would have been easy to get caught up in the glitz of all that, because it was something. Oh, that's right. I mean, but in that moment, I was moved. You know, I'm sure women, and not just women, I guess, ever, people get moved by how beautiful a ceremony.

I was moved just by the power of the love of Jesus from those two individuals. That was moving to me. All involved were married to Christ. We're the bride of Christ. So all of us together, Christians' family and our family, they're from Alabama. We've from Florida. They're from Florida.

Niceville, Florida. I thought it was. But he goes to our Florida. He goes to Harvard. Really, you can call it what you will, but really when two people like that from two family groups marry, it's a marriage of everyone. spiritually speaking, it really is.

Well, and you mentioned this in the duck line this morning we were talking about that it's, you know, it's a legacy of marriages. No doubt. It's ones that go on and on, and that was one of your challenges to them. I thought it was really good. All right, we got to go. Yeah, we got to go. We got off on a rabbit and wound up at a wedding.

But that's all right. It was really good. And it's one of the honors exactly what we're talking about. Well, it was moving. It's inspiring. You can't help but talk about it, you know. There's two young people where you find in our society, two young people get up there and said, look me and you are a byproduct of what we have in Jesus let's make it work they did do it

right oh it was awesome yeah it was definitely one I cataloged in my mind to share with other people as you go along so there's an idea for you at your wedding man think about worship and communion as a part of that great setting which is fantastic so we'll we'll see you next time we're Unashamed. We are so glad you're watching and listening to the Unashamed podcast. Be sure to like us on Facebook, subscribe on YouTube and iTunes. That's going to keep you up today with all the new episodes, and it's also going to let other people find out about our podcast.

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