Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 369 | Miss Kay's Stunning Recovery from Her Severe Lip Injury & Why Lisa Felt Unworthy as a Wife

Episode Date: October 25, 2021

Miss Kay is back with an update on how she's doing after her dog bit a big chunk out of her lip. Al relives a traumatic experience involving a family member and a bathtub. Kay and Phil tell a story about Willie cutting down a tree she loved. Lisa and Kay reject Phil's title suggestion for their upcoming book. Lisa shares why she believed she wasn't worthy of being a preacher's wife. And Kay looks back at her fear of public speaking and how one woman made her realize she had a story to tell. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we, Jason is still, you know, on the road. He's out getting some stories. We send him out, Mom, every once in a while, to get stories for us. No, you send him out because you're tired of his mouth.

Well, that too. That too. Because we had, the last podcast was just Dad and I said, well, dad, how about that without Jason? And that's a very peaceful. It's a lot more peaceful. But no, we miss Jason. I can't wait for him to get back in because he's going to have some stories.

But so in his in this place, because yesterday we had on, we had on Martin and Godwin, which the first time Martin ever been on. Stone and the Nurse Man. And we had Stone and the Nurse Man, which is interesting as well. You know Nurse Man well because he's helped you with your various ailments, as Dad said. And accidents. So we officially were welcoming mom, Miss Kay, and Lisa, my better half. So I was just telling Dad before you guys came on that according to our analytics person, the most viewed podcast of all these, which we're up to where are we at, just, 368, 69.

So the most viewed podcast was the last time we had YouTube on. Over 4 million views. So apparently when we bring beauty into the unashamed layer, the views pick up, Dad. So I guess something better to look at, maybe. They wanted to hear what the women had to say. That's right. Because they're listening to what we're saying. I don't know.

I don't know about all that. which is what you said, Stone said when he came into the world, right? I don't know about all that. I think they just think there's no telling what the women are going to say. Well, that's true. So I think they like that, Kay. Yeah. This is that I always talk too much.

Well, we get a lot of good, when Missy comes on, we get a lot of that too, because she likes to refute Jace. And so the audience loves that, somebody willing to take him. I was just saying from observation that. when Stone's head protruded from the wound and he looked around, his first thought was, I don't know about all this. And Jace maybe too, right? I don't know.

You were there, Mom, but it sounds like something he would say to it. Well, he came out crying and throwing a fit, and he's been doing it to me ever since. So, Mom, you're going to love this. I had to say this. So I read, you remember the letter I showed you that I wrote when I was six years old to Nanny? Yeah. Who's your grandmother, who you talk about a lot. So in the letter, I said.

I said, Jace is really mean, but I guess that's how little brothers are. But I made the point to Jace that he was not even two. It was in June. When the charge was made. The man was not even two years old. And I'm commenting on his mean demeanor. So you know what I told him? I said, mom has been vindicated.

She said all these years she couldn't get along with Jace. It was vindicated by your six-year-old son, me, that he really was a handful. It was 2 o'clock in the morning, and I heard a little wine, and I said, what is that? And it sounded like an animal with a wine. So I got up. I'm married, don't you? I walked out there, and I said, but it's outside. So I walked outside in the yard.

I went to a, underneath the house, there was just a block there, you know, open spot, you know, about three feet. And I finally got to there and had a flashlight. and I shine my light up in there. And there's Jace. He was about two or three years old. It's about two. Right along this time. There's Jace sitting there whining.

I'm like, Jace, what are you doing? And if I'm not mistaken, the dog was under there with him. Duchess, we had Duchess back then. And she was looking out for him. Yeah, she was. That's what kind of dog she was. But he had gotten out of the house somehow and gotten up underneath that.

He walked in his sleep or something. Yeah. Which he had a little, there was a little bit of sleepwalking back in the day, I guess. Yeah. Any kind of trouble he could cause, he would. I mean, I know he was little and probably asleep, but. So, Mom, a couple of things. So, because I still get people asking about how you're doing.

Obviously, Dad mentioned that you haven't had anything done to your list, but they look amazing. So you've totally healed from your Bobo incident earlier this year. That's right. And it was a shock because actually, when I went in that night and I looked so bad, and you can verify that, right, Phil. I mean, it was like, I looked like a monster. But the surgeon who came in at St. Francis, emergency brain said,

Ms. Kay, you're going to be shocked how well these lips were healed. And I thought he's just trying to make me feel good. I mean, you know, but I was in such shock. You know, I never even cried with all that. Wasn't it? I didn't cry. And it was like I was really in some kind of shock. And it's not every night.

that you you someone shakes you at 1130 about 11 30 12 o'clock at night and I looked up and she's standing there and she said you might have to take me to the doctor and I'm looking I said the hospital yeah the hospital I'm looking at her lips and they're just chewed up by a dog I mean I mean I mean splits there were like a half inch and lips are parted and chunks gone and so I'm looking at now, you know. And I said, I figured Botox would do it, but she broke out your old Mabelene and pulled it off. Pull it on. Natural beauty, ma'am. I don't know. That was a miraculous healing, I think. I really do. It was great. I couldn't believe it. One thing about you, mom, is you're resilient. Yeah. Yeah. How many accidents have I really had?

When you got back from your last trip, I was like, okay, did you get hurt? I mean, my first question is where did you get hurt? I got hurt the day before I left, the day of the trip, I fell down and bruised my left knee really bad. And I didn't even tell Phil because I thought maybe it'll be healed by the time I get home. So I was all right until I got on my all fours to get out of that bathtub, the little bitty bathtub. And then I realized that one of my all fours wouldn't work.

I couldn't put it down. So you were on all three. All three knee cats. That's pretty bad. When you're trying to get a dog, it's got a hurt legs. You're trying to get around on all threes. That's not good, my. Well, you never got out of the bastard.

It's embarrassing. Well, the old aunt is let a sleeping dog lie. That's right. But she learned a valuable lesson there. She just leaned over Bobo to say, we're going to see you in the morning. So that's my question. Do you ever kiss them any more good night or did that? When they're fully awake.

So you're still kissing. I still kiss him good night, but I mean, I say Bobo, Bobo. And he looks up up. And then I say, well. Wake him up before you say goodbye. You know what? That reminds me. Remember when Granny was at our house one time?

And we had the big huge bathtub. I think this is when we lived on Wellspring by John and Paula. And so we put some bubbles in there because she wanted to do a bubble bath. But then she could not get out of the bathtub because it was too slick. Yeah. So we had to drain the water and then put towels on the bottom so that she could actually get out of it. You remember when she did that when she stayed with us a couple of days? If I did, it's so traumatic now.

I blocked it out of my mind. You don't want to see your grandmother in the bathtub trying to help her get out. Well, that's true. So whatever your memory of that is, I'm blocked out if I was helping. Well, I can totally relate to every bit of that. every bit of it. Well, it might have been you. Was it you or was it?

It was probably me. Well, Granny stayed with us for a couple of nights. I was thinking it was Granny because Alan would not come in the bathroom. I'm like, I don't know how to get her out of the bathroom. I mean, she was a pretty large woman. But we used to live with them. You remember when Lisa and I first got married, we didn't have any place to live yet because that kind of sped up the, you know, we were a dad.

The way I put it now is that our biology was. beginning to overtake our theology because we were trying to remain pure until we got married, but it was, you know, difficult. And so we kind of moved the wedding date up a little bit. So we didn't really quite have our housing situation set up. So we live the first six months in the front bedroom at Granny and Paul's house, which was next door to you guys. Yeah. And so Lisa and I, so we would lay in there. Every night before we would go to sleep, we would laugh hysterically at listening to them dueling snore. Because, you know,

Paw had like a, you know, kind of a smoker's snore, you know, and then Granny kind of had a high pitch. Weep-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee. So it would be, whee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee. So you remember that? I've noticed two things that developed

out of age between the husband and the wife. I've noticed two things. In my particular case, going into the 70s, I've become quieter. Ms. Kay has become louder. Well, I finally got to talk after all these years. I don't know the meaning of behind it, but I'm much quieter. I think you found your roar.

Okay. I did. That's true. I did. So Lisa and I, we lived there six months. And then there was a camp on the other. We've been trying to buy it. Dad had been trying to buy it.

And then we were married. So we were trying to buy it. A little two room really kind of just a shack, but it was a camp. No bathroom. It had an outdoor bathroom still out back, which there's no telling what was living in there because that's wooded. But the guy would not turn loose. He lived in town.

He worked at the mill. And he liked to come out here and fish, you know. And so he, so we kept asking him, no, I'm not interested in selling it. And so we kept living there trying to figure out what we're going to do because we wanted to live down here. I was working for the company at the time, although that's loose term working because we weren't really making. Holding your checks. Yeah, we weren't making any money. And so this, finally, this guy's wife comes.

She never hardly ever came with him, but she came with him one weekend. And she went in there and she sat out on a chair. And she said she just felt weird about it. like something was going on. So she picked the cushion up on that chair, because this thing, again, stays empty most of the time. And it's in the woods, which is where they are. And she lifted up that seat cushion.

And there was a big old chicken snake. Oh. There was underneath that seat cushion. And, of course, you know, they're a bad looking ombray. They don't really hurt you, but they're about six foot long. Non-poisonous. Non-poisoned. But they look, they look bad.

And she saw that big old thing curled up. and she hit the front door of that thing. And the way her husband described it, she never worried about the steps. She just took a big leap right out the front door, rolled about three times, got in the vehicle and told him in a bunch of... Sell it. Yeah, and a bunch of blankety blank terms. I am never coming back to this place. And so he came over and told Dad.

He was like, well, I guess I am selling the place because she's never coming back after that. Well, God works a mysterious way. He did. He planted, and you know, all the years we lived there, we never had a snake in the house. We had a few varmits, but never a snake. Now it's a little house full of, why shall I call? Treasures. Treasures.

I opened the door about a couple months ago, and I looked in there, I said, what in the world? But I just noticed the most, the biggest thing there were. books. Yeah, a lot of books. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of children's, children's books. It's a library. It's a library. I have my own library.

After we're gone, Ms. Kay, I don't know whoever walks out there and says, what do we do with this thing? Nobody will burn books. They'll give them more. No, I'm thinking by this time the black mold and everything else will be set in. So I'm thinking diesel and a wild. and a well-placed match may be the way to send your ladder.

No, because you're going to set the trees on fire. You don't want to burn up trees. Well, I guess you're right. I have to just tear it down. But anyway, so we... Let Willie do it. He loves to turn out. By the way, right there where the houses are,

and that old house that y'all lived in, and we call it the warehouse, then there's a trailer house and for guests, then there's just a catch-all. I mean, but if you would, Look at it all. It's underneath. That's virgin timber.

Yeah. Those trees out there are hundreds of years old. Yeah, those big old pine trees. It's amazing that from time to time, the hurricanes have come up through here. You know, we'll get 75 mile air wind. The last time we had one, Laura, I think, was the name of that one. It was the two that came by. One came up, then another one followed it.

And that second one knocked down a lot of trees. but amazingly right there where we were with all that where we live and all yeah one went down but it went down at the only place it could go without tearing tear and power lines down or in on the house but that's the last close call we've had but amazingly none of the big trees are fallen i mean listen there's some pine trees there they are really gigantic oh yeah been there a long time so let's take a break so dad has actually how many so since we moved we moved down here in 76. So that's been 45 years ago.

It's how long we've been at that place. So how many trees have we lost, either through lightning strike or just one got to look like it might fall on the house? How many of those big trees you're talking about have we cut over the 45 years around your house and on the property? Not many. Eight to 10. Eight to 10, yeah.

I won't cut them and everybody comes by. They said, man, these trees, if they ever fall, they're going. because some of them, you know, I mean 100 footers, 150 feet. I mean, they are like gigantic. Yeah. It's the prettiest old pine trees and some of them bull oaks. It's just huge. I can still remember when I was a little kid, and we first moved here,

and there used to be about four right in front of the, where you looked out the front door. Well, look, since you brought that up, I looked over there, and when we first got the house, and I walked out there on the porch, you know, looked around, and I saw a little, tree about, oh, it was about a foot, a foot and a high. It was like a, about like this right here. Just a little sapple. Yeah, he was just sitting there. Well, I walked out the other day and I looked

at that. Well, now it's an elm tree. And elms, they grow slow, slow. But it's an elm. And look, it's now a pretty good size tree. A little size tree. Yes, it's like this now. And you know, it's standing up there, you know, but I remember when it was a little bit. little sapling. I said, that's an elm tree. I'm going to let that one grow. Yeah, 45 years. 45 years. There's a pine tree out there that was about six feet tall when we moved in there. And now it's 60, 70 feet tall. You know, it went from like about like this. It's about, it's about like this now. Yeah. It's a big pine tree. Well, Lisa and I were noticing that driving out here today because they're clear cutting a bunch of area in between here and town.

I saw them plan all those. That's why I was telling her. And that was what, 30, 25, 30? Yeah. So it's twice in our lifetime that we're seeing that area clear cut. Because you don't get to see it very often. That's right. I've got a story to tell. Tell us a story, Mom.

Okay. When we moved down there and went to look at the place and I loved it, you know, everything about it. Well, I went over there to the side where the clothes line used to be between our house and blue house. Yep. And when we first saw it, I went over there and there was a little magnet. tree. And I was so excited. I said, oh, my goodness, I've always wanted a magnolia tree.

So then I went to tell Phil about it and all there. And then I came back out there and Willie was out there. And all of a sudden, that tree wasn't there anymore. And he was over there chopping, chopping, chopping. He cut the tree down. I mean, how was he? He was young. I know.

About less than that probably. I said, what made you? It's about five. Yeah, and I said, what made you do that? He said, I didn't like it. I said, well, you're fixing to get a whipping for what you didn't like because I loved it. Can you imagine now what that big magnolia would look like because that was 40 plus years ago? It would be a huge tree now.

I could still whip them. That house, Jay Spalled, he and Missy, there was a magnolia there. And that thing is huge. Yeah. Big magnolia. It's, the house was built in 1790 or something. Oh,

yeah. It's one of the oldest houses. Oh, yeah, you're talking about that. I think it's an old house in Washington. Yeah. It is the oldest house in Washington,

Arizona, yeah. 1798 was when they started. Magnolia trees there. They had a little damage on the 75 mile hour wind. Right. You know,

it's a kind of a little pecan grove, but that's a large magnolia tree right there. So when Lisa and I were up in Massachusetts, we were, you know, we talk about, 1798, the oldest beginning structure in our entire parish up there, that's about a medium. I mean, you know, you go, there was things built in 16s, whatever.

We're at Plymouth Rock, which was what, 1604 or whatever it was when they came in. They still got that first rock, you know. Did y'all go look at their writings, where they settled, the Plymouth Rock. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was, it was very interesting. Someone said, told me one of the brothers said, it was us. Yeah. It was the kingdom of God.

Well, they had the old guy there, you know, the captain, whatever his name is, the main guy, but he was a preacher. You know, I mean, it was very much based in spiritual, which is why there's so many church buildings. They're all over the place. How many were they were in a row, babe, on the way when we spoke? There was three straight. No, on that strip of road we were on, there was seven or eight churches. There was two side by side. Right.

Were there any people going to them? No. Very few. Very few. And that's the difference. I mean, it was really, I like Europe where you had these great old places. And when you go in it, it's fascinating to look at them. But that's all they do is go look at them.

I know. It's not good. It's our roots, but they forgot them. They forgot them. But, you know, I was saying that about, I think we mentioned on a podcast yesterday, but I was saying that about Boston itself because Lisa and I had never been. So when we were hearing all these stories of the early patriots and what they did, you know, to get out of the tyranny.

I mean, I'm just like, I'm ready to go, you know, jump into battle somewhere because it inspired me. I was like, man, look what our founding fathers did, you know. And look, they were doing it charges of treason and, you know, they were going to kill them and all this stuff. And I thought this is right here in the middle of this city and this, everybody's surrounding it, they've just, they've kind of just forgotten that or something. It just doesn't seem to mean anything to it. They talk about them being slave owners and this, that, and the other. And just wanted to just trash your own history. But when you hear the stories about Paul Revere and some of the stuff that happened, it's like, it's pretty incredible.

We're in the book of Matthew, and when Jesus came, they had trouble with him. That's right. And you forget. These nations, these empires, they'll rise when they fear him. And then they say, nah, forget him. That's right. We've made a turn. That's exactly right.

Well, it was pretty sad for us. Hard times are on the way, America. Hard, hard, hard times. But it was also encouraging because the ones who came were super blessed that we came. You know, they were just like, oh, thank you so much for coming here. Because they're not used to people making the effort to come be with them because they're not big numbers, you know. Yep. So I wanted to mention today since we had y'all on, was it April?

So in April. April 19th, Mom and Lisa have a new book that's going to be coming out. And we're going to talk about Dad's books too in a minute. but I wanted you all to start with y'all's. And it's called Sister Roar. Sister Roar, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So I want you to tell us a little bit about, tell our audience a little bit about the book. We're not, it's not ready to sell them yet, so we're still a while ways out on that. And when that gets closer, we'll let you, you guys know an unashamed nation, what to do to get one. But I just wanted to tease a little bit and to hear what you guys are doing because the manuscript is finished now. And so tell us a little bit about the book. kind of what you're trying to say. So this is a mother and mother-in-law that you sat down with. So you and your mother-in-law come up.

Who dreamed this up? I was probably a driving force. So what's the topic? The topic is... Beware of the Robertson clan. Nope. No. That's another book.

That's a teacher book. Our book is for women, and it talks two women, but we're never down on men. We do not hate men in the book. We love our men. It's about sisterhood. It's about community. It's about having groups together and opening yourself up, confessing sin, being healed of that sin, being able to help other women with the sin, you know, that you were healed from. with the pandemic, it forced everybody inside isolation.

And I have seen, and Kay has seen with women, that that isolation was not good for them. Because during that isolation is when Satan began to work his magic on them. Because they had nobody to talk to. And look, I mean, quite frankly, all they're watching is the news. And we don't get any good news. from the TV, you know? And people weren't able to go to church. They weren't able to meet with their brothers and sisters.

And so too much isolation is not good for a person. And especially when there's fear from the pandemic, oh, people are going to get this and everybody's going to die. I mean, you know, it's just I'm not down on news, but I am down on news because they never tell us anything good. They only tell us the bad things. And so in order to get that encouragement, you need to fellowship with your sisters, with your brothers, with people who can share that wisdom with you and teach you how to be a better person, how to be a better mother, how to be a better wife, how to be a better sister, teach you, you know, how to, you know, how to. It's the Titus passage, you know.

It's the older women teaching younger women. But, you know, in some cases, it's younger women teaching older women because these women have lived with these problems their whole life. And they've not ever been able to give them to the Lord. They've not ever been able to forgive themselves enough to get past them and to be able to share them with other people. I was in that generation. Hang on. Let's take a break. I was in a generation raised up where it was all a secret.

Nobody, they were ashamed of anything happening, so nobody knew it. So they had to just deal with themselves. And then you just never wanted to know. The last place you'd want to tell is in the church. Oh, heaven forbid you confess something. Right. It was more like the perfect people were there. Say that was all wrong.

The church is the place for sinners for, people to come to and be loved, but even though they've been through all this bad stuff. And you can talk about it and people still love you. We always say, and I'm a part of two different women groups. One is one with the recovery women, which are going through things. And then the other is just women who've been Christians a long time, but they still want to be together, have relationships, and even confess to each other or talk about it or just uplift and everything like that. And you're just not, it's, it's, we, our motto is we're unoffendable and teachable.

Because even to my day, as old as I am, I will be learning something to the day they put me in the grave. Or I quit talking. Then Phil might be happy. But, uh, no, let her rip. Yeah, because you can turn it off, can't you? So one thing I thought, I thought was interesting. is that you two wrote the book together.

And as dad said, it was, you know, the matriarch of our family with now Lisa, who is our own matriarch, you know, being a grandmother. And Sadie is writing the forward for the book, which is another layer generation. And again, what I find fascinating about Sadie is that she has had an impact on her peers and now teenage girls after her in a huge way. But now she's a wife and a mother. Yes. And so she's experiencing all that.

And so she's actually taking that and then passing those experiences on to this group of people that she's inspired. And so I thought that was really interesting. They were talking about a third generation book, really, being put forward. So it's called Roar. So tell me a little bit in the intro in the early. It's called Roar. Sister Roar. Because I was thinking women, strange creatures.

Nope. That's not the name of it. I would have named it. Which is. Yeah, we're going to talk about strange creatures. It's catchy. No, nobody would be strange looking like you. Heaven forbid.

I'm so normal, I seem abnormal. Yeah. So tell me about this concept of roar, because you talk about a lioness. It's a pride of lines, Dad. A group of lines is a pride of lines. And you talk about this idea about the lioness and the roar and what that means. Because we think a roar, we think of like the male line. But really there's more to it than that, right?

So tell us about kind of how that led into the book. Well, the lioness will roar loudly whenever there's danger around. So she does that to protect the pride, too, you know, just so they know. But she also does that to let her cubs know where she is. and then she does it out of, out of love, you know? And then protection. Protection.

To what we think of as humans as a scary sound to a lion, it's a sound of look out. Right. There's danger, which is really interesting because it's the same with a family, right? Yeah. As mothers, I think we do that too. I mean, we have a voice that our kids know. And they know what that particular sound means.

they know our loving voice, they know our mad voice, they know our get out of the way of that car voice. I mean, we're the same way. You know, we use our voice to protect and to warn and, you know, to call our kids to the dinner table. But so many times with women, whenever they go through different things, they lose that voice because they feel as though I've done all of these things. And I know This is how I felt with being, you know, we talked about this before with me being a preacher's wife. I never felt worthy to be a preacher's wife because I thought, you know, I've done all these things and I've got this past. And I mean, I'm not worthy to do that job, to have that title. But sometimes we lose that voice because we allow Satan.

His voice is so loud in our ear that we don't speak. speak. We don't say anything. We don't tell people the great and miraculous things that God has done in our life because Satan is right here on our shoulder and he's talking to us and he's saying, nobody wants to hear that. Nobody's going to respect you if you say that. You don't have a voice. Remember all the things that you've done in your life? And that is not true. Once we are saved by Jesus Christ, we have a voice and all of the things that I have went through in my life and all the terrible things that I've done, Christ redeemed that. And he has picked me up and he put me on solid ground. He put me right smack dab in the middle of this family, I think, which was exactly where he knew

I needed to be. He gave me UK as a voice whenever I was younger that, you know, was trying to tell me the way to treat my husband, raise my kids, be a good sister in Christ, study God's Word. I mean, all those things that you taught me. But the whole time Satan is saying, you don't have a voice.

You've done all these things. It's not true. Once we are daughters of the Almighty, we have a voice. We inherit everything. Everything that God has is ours. And we have eternal life. There's no.

Nobody can take that away from us, no matter how bad they make us feel, no matter what they do to us, kind of like with feels uncanceled. You cannot cancel us because we are daughters of the Almighty. You know, I'd like to say the first time they asked me to speak after, you know, I became a Christian and Phil became a Christian. And then all of a sudden, somebody asked me to come to Rustin to a church and give. of my talk. And so the first time I got up there, I remember it like it was yesterday, I just stood there. Yeah. I just stood there looking at them. I couldn't open my mouth.

I just kind of felt dry mouth. I felt everything. I just thought, I can't do this. Because Phil and tell you, anything over two syllables, now I'm gone. I can't say that. It will not come out right. And I can turn words into other words so quickly.

It's like she said the other day. She said, well, I trip and felt, but at least I still have my facilities. I said, you still have your facilities. I said, you mean your faculties? She said, well, same thing. Close those words are together. But it is a facility. Let's take a break.

Well, I wanted to read this. I thought this was a really good excerpt from early in the book, which kind of speaks to the idea of sisterhood that you guys are talking about in most throughout the whole book. And you have a lot of times where you reference women of the Bible and where you see that, you know, that roar and that sisterhood being being expressed. One of our favorite things about a roar is how it can serve as an invitation, a chance to let yourself be known. Great relationships start with making yourself available. And I would say you both are great examples of being available. Your roar is something you'll discover deep within and express in your own special way. Others may hear it or see.

it in tangible ways, but most of the time they'll perceive it with their own hearts. And I love this statement. Healthy community will be born when you express your roar and hear the roar of others. And so that's that idea about sisterhood. And sometimes it has to have a platform to be able to do that. But to have a platform, you have to have an availability, which is to offer yourself for others. We talked about this in the last podcast, Dad and I about, because we were talking about the,

when Jesus fed the thousands of people with the fish. and then how our house growing up was always a house of hospitality and availability. And Lisa and I have the same house now. We learned it from you guys and now express it on forward. And I see my kids doing the same thing. Yeah. That's exactly what I was going to finish my story a while ago that you didn't let me finish. I didn't know.

No, I was I going to tell you when I couldn't speak, a woman who invited me walked up and whispered my ear. And she said, Ms. Kay, all we want you to do, hadn't God done a lot of stuff for you? You know, and she knew about the 10 years, you know, he was so bad. And, you know, it just all of a sudden it clicked. She said, tell your story. Tell your testimony.

Nobody can do that but you. Right. And when she told me that, it was like the power of God just came in me, and I said, oh, I have a story to tell. For all of you that think God can't read it. rescue you. Let me tell you something, for 10 years, I live with a man who was terrible. I mean, he did every sinful thing you can think of and didn't care who saw it. But everybody said, leave him, leave him, leave him, even both families. His family, my family. But you know what?

I said, nope, my grandma said when you're married, it's a vow you take for life, and you don't do So I had nobody on my side. And yet I stayed. Yeah. And look at it now. Yeah. Are you glad? Yeah, we're all glad.

What about that? I'm very glad. I was going to say, Alan was talking about the women in the Bible. I mean, because you take a woman like the woman at the well who meets Jesus at the well. And, of course, not supposed to be talking to him anyway, but she's there in the heat of the day. and you have to wonder why was she there in the heat of the day? Well, because she didn't want to go when all the other women did because they knew what her life was like.

Yeah, her roar was muted by her past. That's exactly right. Because Jesus brought that out, right? She's been married five times. She's living with a guy now. That's not her husband. Right. But once she met Jesus and knew who he was and accepted that

and accepted his healing, she goes back into the town. and she's not quiet anymore. That's right. She has a roar and she goes out and tells everybody, I mean, Jesus told me everything I've ever done, which was not absolutely true, but I mean, for her it was because the only thing. That's exactly right. That's exactly right.

To her, that was her life. That's right. Those five people that she was divorced from and then living with somebody that wasn't. That was her life. Well, she's already a Samaritan, which would put. her from an Israel situation is outside the camp. Then on top of that, you've been married all these times in divorce. I mean, you couldn't get any lower from their perspective.

And the one she was living with, she wasn't even married. That's right. She was just hacked up. So she goes back into the town and tells everybody, and it says after a lot of people were converted. Many believed. Many believed. And then afterwards, they said it wasn't just by what you said. It was because we listened to him too.

But just think of that. she had to go and tell them what happened, and then they came to hear what Jesus had to say. And so it doesn't matter what your life is like. Like Kay said, everybody has a story, and only you can tell your story. And everybody has a story where God has redeemed you from a past. And if you don't tell it, then how can you ever say he works? because when they see, you know, my miracle over here, you know, they'll say, and then that much later feels just preaching, preaching, preaching, and preaching.

And they'll say, that's not the guy that hung out in the bars. That's not the guy that was mean to you. That's not the kind of wrecked four vehicles. And all that kind of stuff, that's not the man. They were looking at the repentant one. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

And then they saw him, and not only was he just repentant. Pindamber did good, but then his boy started, and it never stopped, and it won't till he's dead. Right. Yeah, it became John the bad. Well, I've changed my mind. I think the old, whoever the philosopher was, Al, who said a situation becomes a crisis when cattle or women stampede. I've changed my mind about that. You need good women.

You need a stampede of godly women. That's right. I like it. I like it. All right. We've moved dad. We moved the needle. today. It was by y'all's appearance. Yeah, and that's, to me, that's the heart of the story.

And you're right. It was all the example. The biblical examples are good. You guys are both very upfront and real about your own struggles and past. And I think that's what allows people to tell their story, you know, when they see real people. Y'all are famous, by the way, both of you. You're famous for hospitality. Yeah. Well, I know something else. Which is a really good thing. Let's take her last break, mom. I know something else. I'm funny and you can turn

you and your daughter-in-law can turn anything into a gigantic feed a gigantic celebration it doesn't take much and you don't celebrate it we cook it and we do it but I think this thing I was trying to tell you about being funny is so many times everybody's easily offended

oh he said that oh like we will start a fuss somebody one of us will disagree. And then all of a sudden, I'll say something really funny or Phil will. And then we bust out laughing. Well, you can't be mad after that. You're not going to laugh. But I think so many people need to have a, they don't have a sense of humor. Phil will always say they need to go to Walmart and buy one. But it would avoid so much trouble if you just learn how to laugh. Yeah. America needs to laugh more.

Yep. And marriages do. That's right. Well, I mean, we, there for a while, we had a lot of laughter whenever I was falling down all the time. But I guess I, I don't know what happened. I guess the Lord healed me from that too. The falling down. I'm still falling down. When Lisa and I were first married, I mean, she had a roar, but it wasn't necessarily the godly roar, you know, it was a roar. But I think what God has done through the years is the things that she, She didn't ever think she could accomplish by being God's woman. She's done. And so one of my great blessings that I get tonight will be up in a little town about an hour north of here.

And we're speaking on behalf of a pregnancy center to raise some funds for them. And I get a chance to open up, talk about the family and kind of get everybody laughing a little bit. And then I just step back. And then Lisa goes into her story. And it's always amazing because I get to watch the audience. you know, when someone else is speaking, which you don't normally get to do because usually you're in the audience. And I watch those faces. I can see them where they're hurting and they just don't, hadn't had anybody. And you can just see it in their faces. And so I see that roar

every time we get up and we speak to audiences because she's just very raw and very real about what God has done in her life. And so I see the impact of that. So, you know, our prayer always is that those folks can find that pride, can find that sisterhood, can find that group, you know, because you need community. Yeah. Which is kind of, I think the heart of the book, wouldn't you say? Right. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. For me going through it. So I've been a part of this book, as I am with all the books in the family. I'm not a publisher, but I should. But you play one on TV. I should be. That's as many as I've helped get through. And so in our last few minutes here together, that's you guys' book coming out.

Dad has two books out now. One of them we have mentioned is the C-plus gospel series. And this is kind of uniquely for you guys, for Unashamed. It's a resource. We started a 501c3, which is a basically a nonprofit, and we did that so we could help preach the gospel to as many people as possible. So mom and dad started that with Ben and Melissa, my cousins. And this book is the first of a series that were using just to get into people's hands to understand what the gospel is. So every one of you that buy one of these books, all the money that goes to that is all nonprofit to be able to share the gospel. So I want to make you aware of that one. It's excellent. And then this one, which is your day. daily fill, which is the devotional book. It's 100 days of truth and freedom to heal America's soul. And so there's some excerpts taken from theft of America's soul and Jesus politics. And then we've just come up with some questions in a way just to be able to kind of have a connect with God. And mainly this book's purpose is to help us trying to make a difference in our culture.

When you say so, Dad, I mean, it's a personal upbuilding, but the idea is so that I can be relevant, you know, in our culture. So this book had been exclusive in Walmart, and now it's about to go nationwide with all distributors. So be looking for that if you hadn't had a chance to get it. I know Walmart's been out for a while, several Walmart. So be looking for that. It's going to be coming up. And then Dad's got a new book coming out February, I think it's the first Tuesday in February. I think it's February 8th, maybe. But anyway, it's early February. It's called Uncanceled. And so Dad tell us just a little bit about that. We're getting pretty close.

It won't be long before we ask you guys to do some pre-orders. We're not quite there yet, just so we can get it moved up the list. Basically in a Bible text, I'll make it easier for our audience. When we click on, you have no excuse, Romans Chapter 2. No one has an excuse. you who pass judgment on someone else you say I have no excuse when I pass judgment on someone

meaning they've sinned and I will carry that and that sin and I will never forgive them the rest of my life on the earth so you who pass judgment on someone else I hate this individual or that one for sinning or doing this or doing that for at whatever point you judge the other, you're condemning yourself because you who pass judgment

do the same things. You're like, boy, so the book is about, we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So you, a mere man or woman, pass judgment on someone else and yet do the same things. Do you think you will escape God's judgment? Do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance, and patience? Not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance. Be forgiving whatever you do and don't blame others for one mistake that you will never forget forever.

Right. Which is really... It's a horrible way to live and America is caught up in it in a big way. And we, and we've said this before on the podcast, dad was one of the early people that was, that was people attempted to cancel you. That is the idea that, and this was even built on a misperception, but the idea is, is that you are something that you're not. Therefore, we're going to decide that you have no voice anymore in our culture in America. And now we see it's just rampant, as you said. And most of it comes from an ability not to be able to forgive or, you know, somebody said, hey, I was wrong about that.

You mentioned Gruden last time. You know, 10 years ago, I did an email. I shouldn't have probably done that. That was a little bit. I didn't expect that to get out, but I did. I'm sorry about that, which is what he did. But instead of saying, okay, we get it, people make mistakes. No, they just kept on until he had to just quit.

That's why the ability to confess your sin before God and be healed is a wonderful thing. It is. If we're going to take his forgiveness, you must have forgiveness. of your own toward others, which is a hard lesson. The passage that I love that's also one of the cores of uncanceled is Colossians 213, when you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code with its regulations

that was against us and stood opposed to us, he took it away, nailing it to the cross. and having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumping over them by the cross. So if your sins have been canceled and the law that has held you by this power of sin of death, has that's been removed and nailed to the cross, that's all the cancel we need. I guarantee you. As you go forward, it doesn't matter what someone else says about you.

Ephesians 432, I believe, is what the verse is. And it says, be kind and compassionate for giving. others their sins. Right. I mean, so God considers you being, whenever you're kind and compassionate, that means you're forgiven other people. Right. That's exactly right.

Cancer culture says we'll hold that against you the rest of your life on earth. We will never forgive you. It's a sad and a sorry state of affairs. Which ultimately means that they probably have a problem accepting forgiveness themselves. That is correct. So therefore they can't pass it on them. I'm trying to show them, why don't you just just. love God and love your neighbor.

And they never have peace. If God says something is sin, believe it. It is sin. Just turn from it. Love God. And you can be cleansed. And let's go. I said the thing that would fix America that would totally take away all our

ills is a big dose of forgiveness. That's it. If you could just embrace it and pass it on. That's what Uncancel is all about. That's what the book is all about. So we got a lot of cool things. Sister Roar, be looking for that. Uncancel, be looking for that.

And the other things between. talked about. It's always good to have the female perspective of the Robertson matriarchs on our. Oh, and I have another announcement. I don't know if I've told Kay this or not. I will be speaking at the March for Life in Washington, D.C. in January. Wow. Like the million people show up. I mean, it's a big deal. So we're super excited. So we thank the ones that advise. This is going to be the end of January. So if you're up in that area, we'd love to see Anashamed Nation come to the big March. And Lisa will be doing her little three-minute speech. You can have to work on that.

I know. It's hard to do a three-minute speech. Three to five? Three to five minutes. That's a lot of time. We've got a lot of people going through there. Long way to go for five minutes. Well, Alan, I want to say one more thing.

All right, you close us that, Mike. I'm telling you, it's hard to shut them up, Al. Yeah, it is. This is where we started. Okay. I just want to say that, Alan, from you being a little bitty boy at three years old, loving the Dallas Cowboys they won that game

that's right we never got a chance to talk about football we'll do that next time you notice I broke my cowboy head back house I know it's been a few years

in hibernation I was just I couldn't stand my seat I called mom last night this shows you what mom is about football now I called her last night and I said mom

we were talking about a meal today and she said well I'll have to wait till I have time to check on that because I'm just too end of this game I was like all right I got it

and Phil goes to bed for it's over Yeah. Who does that? Another exciting year. She said, you're not going to bed before the ball game. I said, yeah. I said, tell me about it tomorrow.

So she had a note. She said, unbelievable. The Titans came back and won. And I went in there and stood over his bed and I wanted to tell him and he was just snoring. I couldn't do it. All right. We'll tell more football next time.

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