Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 373 | Jase’s New Grandchild Puts Him in a Tough Situation & an Unlikely Hunting Loophole
Episode Date: November 1, 2021Jase's grandchild hasn't even been born, and Jase already faces a predicament. Al and Jase reminisce about an old hunting loophole that allowed them to hunt anywhere they wanted. Phil and Jase talk ab...out why there has to be desperation and brokenness when you come to Jesus. Jase discovers that his interpreter added words to his speech. And Al and Jase discuss how they get their points across to people who speak a different language. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed. What about you?
What is it, October the 26th?
According to my calendar, yes. It's October the 26th.
I'm glad I came here today.
October the 26th, Jay, so you realize that on November the 20th, that's 24 days,
duck season officially begins.
So I've looked at her hole.
it's a little wet from teal season but not a lot of water there so when's the when's the when's the
zero i've got the pumps sitting there no i wouldn't pump yeah 250 gallons of diesel and a tank
beside it i like to i'll monitor to that it is unusually dry for louisiana this time of year pretty dry
but i think our best years have been on dry year so i'm happy about that me too my biggest problem
about the upcoming duck season is no i didn't know i didn't even know we were still in october i didn't
know what that was i just that's why i brought it up yeah jes i appreciate that you're at the
when you get about midway you're you're in your mid you're in your 50 yet no phil i'm 40 40 46
yeah is that true that's not true he's 52 are you kidding 52 jase you are 502 jase you are 502 jase you are 50
two years old man my wife wonders why i have trouble keeping up with special occasions i mean in our
family no big well look next year willie will be 50 so then three of your sons will be over 50
good what i was going to say is that i'm closer to 60 back to the situation used to i'll just do
what i want to do but now since you're in your 50s you get you're able to put in your your two
sense worth.
Yeah.
When would you, how far in advance would you like to have water on the duck hole?
And figure out what you have for breakfast this morning.
Oh, she brought some of that stuff.
Gee, well.
They may have to edit out of these belters.
Just leave a couple in.
A lot of that stuff.
It'll stay with you a week.
Phil says, I was like, what did you eat?
He's like, oh, she brought that from town.
Yeah. What a description.
That town food, I'll tell you.
That didn't come out of Miss Kay's kitchen, then I'm a burp.
Town food would make you melt.
Before you're talking about it, worse than that.
Yeah.
Well, what I was going to say is my oldest son, his wife is expecting,
and do you know when the due date is?
Do you know?
No, because what's I got to do with the opening dead duck season?
Well, I don't know the exact date, but what happens, be fruitful and multiply.
Okay, let's move on.
It's in the middle of the first split.
Ooh.
So.
Send them a little text in the blind saying, good luck to you.
Congratulations.
See, this is why I don't seek out your advice for family matters.
That's exactly.
Jason, when you first started to have children, was I standing there holding your hand and saying,
Jace, you've got a child now?
I said, wait a minute.
No. I said, that's life. When that was happening, my wife was whispering in my ears, like,
where's your dad? I said, he's with us in spirit. He said, but he's still alive. I said,
yeah, I know. Well, and that carried on a tradition because the way the story is told,
you were running a net or a trot line or something and sigh hollers down from the bank,
hey, Kay's head to the hospital to have your son. What do you want to name him? Name him after you.
No, what he said was
Ms. Kay's fixed
have that baby
and my reply was
I'm out in the river
baiting up a trot line
I looked back up on the bank
I said well what do you want me to do about it?
I said I can't help her
well I can't help her
I mean she's in there
some doctor so
I sent some frustration
what do you want to name him
I said name him after you
so he tore out of there
you know and she's right
Jason Silas
Jason Silas he is
so what I'm hoping is
a hunt opening weekend and we have a good hunt because you know that is it open on the 20th yeah and then
i get the call on like the 23rd or something you know and i go up there and we'll have thanksgiving
up there probably oh it's in uh and it'll be in Nashville area yeah i got you i may find me a creek
you know yeah sure there's any you know think about it out we've been at this chasing these ducks
So we've been at this, I mean, literally for the last 50 years.
I mean, we are like into it.
Oh, yeah.
It's a, it's a big event around here.
Well, and you know, the evolution of it has been amazing because when we first moved down here, we obviously had nothing.
I mean, you were just coming out of the world.
And we were, you know, we were able to get our place town here, which was seven acres,
which has always been special to all of us because me and Jayce grew up there.
but you know so we we public hunting i mean we hunted creeks and the river and wherever we could
hunt for so many years back then you could hunt property that was it's yours it didn't seem like
that big a deal yeah but now it's out right that's exactly right they passed a new law now you
the land owner owns from the from the ground to the to the heavens there's an invisible line
there your property line so if water floods all everything is somebody get on your
normally dry ground now it's all water because in the old days you could you could hunt it if you
went by a navigable waterway into it yeah they changed that yeah okay well they should have changed
because i i you know i remember hunting i could see the man's house over there i was like up the flood
year yeah that's right he come out there's like what are you doing i was like check the law and get back
with me yeah i remember old farmer one time me and bill down the river we found that little
old cypress pond down there but it was he owned all the land around it
but we were we were going off the navigable waterways but then we didn't know there was a law that
if you owned everything around it you could well that's the law they changed you couldn't step foot on
it but you could still hunt out of your boat right so but we should oh y'all are you y'all are getting
out of your boat well we shot a duck and it fell on the bank oh well that's when you get a dog
well we didn't have a dog jays i mentioned at the beginning we were poor we couldn't afford
Jason, I know you love hunting dogs, so you have a choice.
Either Mimi, the little female, starts hunting with us, or Drew, one of my cousins over in Kettle
Paris.
We got old Drew.
It rhymes with blue.
So is Drew a person?
Drew is my dog.
Oh, okay.
Two dogs.
Two dogs have been trained by expert trainers.
Well, I got Biggin.
I'll take the person.
Biggin's better than your dogs.
Let's take Biggin.
Yeah, we left Biggin out of the choices.
Well, we'll try one of them the first day if we want to.
We don't have time.
Yeah.
I'd say you have a little trial to see, you know, who does what.
Yeah, that's what we'll do.
We'll have a dog.
So when would you like to see?
It's October 26th.
We haven't started pumping and there's been no rain.
It's been dry.
Don't rain in the next five days.
I would put water on.
I start putting water on.
November 1st.
That's what I said.
November 1st.
I'll fire it up.
November 1st.
Water's coming.
And we'll see what this rain does.
It's tomorrow.
I suppose rain 100%, so we'll see.
So speaking of November, since we're here,
I'm going to be,
at least I'm going to be in Lodi, California,
on November 4th,
and Stockton, California, November 5th.
So you can go to our website to get details.
Back in Lodi again.
Back in Lodi.
And then we're going to be in Austin, Texas,
speaking on November 9th.
Actually, in Burnett, Texas.
I got some friends down there.
I'll tell them you're coming.
So it's a, I had to mention it on here because I told you,
Last time I was in Massachusetts, the guy comes up, he said, yeah, I just, I've just heard on the
podcast today.
I'm like three days behind and here I am.
I was like, well, good.
And so I met a lot of people that listen to us.
I mean, they're all over the places, you know, California, Massachusetts, they were.
I usually don't publicize where I'm going to be.
Yeah.
But you just, you like to go on the radar.
No, it's because they're packed.
So, where are you going to sit?
Well, I never know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But I just, we're going to be the.
there so if you can get in yeah i mean i did that one time and everybody you know yeah right they showed up
it's like what would you announce it for yeah i was like well i thought we might want them to come
they were like no that's why we didn't want you to announce it because they might come so it was kind of a
weird we don't have you're in an awkward position well right so you got to be careful i guess with
that i mean in california look i say more the mayor is that right oh man we had a we were out there
a few months ago and man it was a fantastic crowd i mean they were so excited to be there and
course they've been such a lockdown you know there was the first time they had a gathering
and over a year and a half in that county was the one we were at so there was i mean it was packed
well i've told you it's the big cities that give a lot of the rural areas you know i mean when we did
that event there and the little tour feel in california was awesome we duck hunting there
Oh, yeah.
That's why I was telling you, when I was in Greece,
I think that's why these politicians are after this socialistic agenda.
It's because I saw what happened there.
It shut down the rural areas.
Wherever they did, there's nobody out there.
There's ghost towns.
And you know that the big urban cities tend to lean to the left,
and then the rural areas lean right.
Well, I'm looking at a country where they weeded,
out the rural areas. There are no rural areas.
It's a sad day. So I thought, well, maybe that's what's pushing that agenda.
Because they've seen other countries do that and they think, well, if we just get rid of all
the rural areas, then we could win every year. Well, what's interesting is what's the big lie
about it in our cultural politics is that these people will claim they're for the middle class
or for these families around these, but they're not. It's just a big fat lie. If you're pushing socialism
or you're heading down that direction.
You don't care about middle class people.
No.
In any of these Rust Belt states, you're only interested in the big cities because that's the people that are voting for you.
So you're right.
I mean, I'm like, you know, that movie.
I've been to a town like when Phil says that.
Big towns make me nervous.
I like to see woods and water and live off the land.
And if you want a garden, plant it.
You can't have a garden in these big cities.
Unless you're like the one I saw in
Taiwan, they had a bunch of taxis they couldn't use
because of the pandemic. So it's like a field
full of taxi cab. And so
they had planted gardens on top of all the
taxi cabs. It was like a square top
garden. So it was like taxi cabs
and then the gardens on top of the taxi gas.
I thought, man, that's, that's, that's,
that's recycling at his mess.
It's like something out of a mad max movie.
It looked like something I have a mad mess.
movie, which is kind of crazy.
Do you all ready to get back into Matthew?
Well, I think we left off in 15, but you got to remember, in Matthew 5, I think he set
the precedent for dealing with the Pharisees and the teachers of the law.
You know, they had this issue come up about they're not washing their hands, and then he
boldly and sternly got down into their hearts and how you think and make decisions.
But when he said that on the sermon on the Mount Matthew 5,
when he said,
don't think I've come to abolish the law or the prophets.
I've come,
I've not come to abolish them,
but to fulfill them.
That was in verse 17.
Of course, we know, reading later on what he was going to introduce
to death, beryl and resurrection,
he was going to introduce love.
But you know, when he got to verse 20 of chapter 5,
he said that unless your righteousness
surpasses that of the Pharisees and the law,
teach the law, you will certainly never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Right.
So I think that's the big lacking virtue here was love.
That's why when you see a person healed on the Sabbath,
the Pharisee mind says, you broke a rule.
And the mind of Christ has compassion and love
and realize what the rules were intended to produce.
and if it doesn't produce love,
then me the hell of beans anyway.
Well, and I talked about that in my sermon Sunday
that, you know, Jesus made the point.
Mark describes it in Mark 2
that this situation where he healed the guy on the Sabbath,
he said, Jesus said the Sabbath,
you know, was made for man,
not man for the Sabbath.
In other words,
and Jesus is saying that as God
who created the concept of the Sabbath.
The concept was you need some rest.
You don't need to just be working.
all the time. That was the concept. But I think too as men, you know, when you hear the word
love, you don't, it's like my wife, she wants to watch a, what I would call a chick flick or a love
story. I'm like, oh. But that's not the type of love talking about when you read the definition
of love, 1st Corinthians 13, 4 through 8. I mean, it's all the things that when I came to
Jesus, I did not possess. It's patient, it's kind. It does not.
envy it does not boast it's not proud it's not rude it's not self-seeking it's not easily
angered keeps no record of wrongs it doesn't delight in evil it rejoices with the truth
it always protects trust hopes perseveres never fails well none of these qualities that I
possess when I came to Jesus none so when you when you think he's trying to get you to love
you got to keep in your mind it's all these daily qualities that you interact with
with people, especially the relationships you're closest to, but that trickles down into the whole world.
Right.
I mean, it's just hard to do, and you're not going to do it on your own.
You're definitely not going to do it trying to follow a bunch of rules and traditions.
Right.
Those qualities are not going to come out of that.
Correct.
Let's take a break.
And I think at the core of it, Jay, the whole problem with the disbelief was if you really
believed he was who he said he was, then whatever he said, whether that differed with your
understanding of law or anything else, you would say, oh, okay, I got it, because you're the one who
made it. So you're the one now telling us this is what it's all about. I mean, whatever Jesus said
was what it was what it was. I mean, that was the fulfillment of law. Well, they thought the goal
was to keep the law. And Jesus came up with a goal that love is the goal. Exactly. And they're like,
what? But if he had said that, they wouldn't have got it, so he basically showed it to him, which is why
this next story. But didn't you get the concept though,
just the idea that these people were not very loving?
I mean, you kind of feel it.
I mean, it's like, it's like, because he remember he challenged me,
he said, you, you say this about washing your hands,
but you don't honor your father and mother. He runs through this whole list.
Well, to me, once you had the woman in John 8 and you're going to stone her,
not because she was being immoral,
because you're trying to prove a point in a moment in a moment.
religious argument that you're not the son of God and who you're using this as a trap.
But a woman's life hangs in the balance.
Yeah.
What about this woman here?
Well, they obviously didn't care about her because she was a flusy.
She was trash.
Well, yeah, it just, nothing but trash.
Or any of these other scenarios where Jesus comes up and he keeps coming up to people that seem to either have fallen through the crack of society.
or they've been abused, looked over.
I mean, the woman like that was unclean with the theme of Matthew 15
because she had some kind of disease, you know, some bleeding disorder.
And so they're like, she's out.
We can't touch her.
And, you know, here's Jesus.
I think it was 12 years.
Yeah.
And not only did he allow her to do that, but he embraced her and he healed her.
And, I mean.
Well, you know these guys didn't have the most loving of attitudes.
whenever they couldn't defend their position
and they couldn't figure out how he was doing what he was doing.
And so it said,
then they plotted to kill him.
Well,
that's a pretty big leap from,
I'm not sure he is who he says he is to let's kill him.
I mean,
that shows you right there.
They didn't care about people.
I mean,
I get it.
When you're,
I mean,
like us,
we were talking earlier.
I mean,
when you're famous,
you tend to draw a crowd.
But sometimes you look around and you're like,
well,
this is a pretty rough crowd.
Some crowd.
This is a smelly.
crowd.
I mean, you just realize how many people there are on the earth, but I think only in
Jesus, do you learn how to love everybody?
And that every person matters.
Yep.
And no matter how difficult it is, it's never easy.
And it's just, it's not easy.
So we talked about this next section days before we came on air today.
And it's, it really is, it's kind of one of those kind of weird stories stuck in the middle
of all these other things.
And there have been a few others like that.
This one's really weird.
And if you read commentaries about it,
I'll just sum up what they're saying.
They don't know.
They don't know.
Yeah.
And that's why I brought up this idea of love
because to me, that's the answer.
The reason, the way this story goes seems bizarre
to a lot of scholars,
because he hasn't really opened up,
even though he's had a few interactions with Gentiles,
always in love.
And if you put all the Gentile interactions together
and all the Gospels, I mean, there's quite a few.
So he's done this, but they were exceptions.
He came to that which his own,
which was the Jewish nation.
That was the initial push.
But then later, we know that he was going to open this up
for everybody when the Holy Spirit was,
If it was poured out, I mean, he died for everybody, Jew or Gentile, and he brings all people together no matter of race, creed, and color, whatever you want a difference.
You want to gender.
No favoritism.
No favoritism.
But the way the story went, he left that place, and he withdrew to the region of Tyre and Saddam, which is very unusual.
Because I think there's only two or three other times that he left the Jewish controlled land.
Right.
So now why he does that here, he obviously wanted to do this to make a point.
So that makes me feel like this is more purposeful than it seems.
Well, and I think because Matthew, remember Matthew is putting together what goes in what order.
And he had just come off talking about how the Pharisees were talking, you know, if your hands are unclean, that makes you unclean by what you eat.
And Jesus kept talking about the heart.
So maybe Matthew put this particular story here in response to that.
I don't know.
Maybe.
But I mean, this is a long ways to go no matter where it was placed.
Right.
I mean, when you do the math on how far this, what, this was way away from anywhere he
normally traveled.
But he had been under a lot of attack, too.
Yeah.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Remember we said every time he faces now they're complaining, they're griping.
So all that may play into that.
Which is so crazy about his character because most people, when they be.
become a king in people's eyes, they enjoy that. You just think about how we nickname people,
the king. I mean, there's a lot, you got the king, the basketball, you know, LeBron James,
he's king of rock and roll, Elvis. I mean, everybody becomes a king at some point in whatever
thing we're doing. But they like the attention and the crowd. Yeah, I mean, they don't go off
to where nobody knows, except maybe for a couple of days. They come back and like, hey, the king.
is back. But Jesus, he didn't want to be an earthly king. He didn't want that frivolous,
because we laugh at people see us and they're all we are famous and take a picture. But it's
kind of embarrassing to us because we're, well, what are we? But we learned that, you know,
I think I would hope from Jesus that earthly fame is one of the most fleeting things.
fleeting that you could why pursue that that's right i mean so and they call it the joke the joke
is the 15 minutes because you know that's about usually what that's about how long it lasts
oh yeah jakel o'neill said it best who they come up and said somebody had said something you know
about him or whatever and he went who and so they rephrased the question and he went who who
His point was, I don't know who that is and I don't care.
And Shaq is really a smart person, too.
That's serious.
He's sad.
After a while, everybody got it.
He was saying, you may think he's bigger than he is, but I don't know who that is and I don't care.
I'm not answering that question.
But you have to feel the same way about yourself.
I mean, where's that, Roman?
There's nobody to think of themselves more.
than they are.
I usually,
that's usually the first person I read at an event.
Yeah.
Of course,
people laugh because they think I'm joking.
I'm not joking.
Because I'm thinking what I want you people to do right now,
right off the bat,
is lower your expectations because I'm standing here.
That's right.
You don't want high expectations.
It's like seeing a movie that everybody says is great.
You'll never like it because it just,
it was too much hype.
Yeah, it's funny.
You're right,
because any time I stand,
before an audience, my feeling is not that, oh, it's about time you got me here.
I'm thinking I'm super humbled to even have the opportunity to be standing in front of a
group of people.
I mean, there's nothing special about me.
You know, I was humbled that someone asked me and said, hey, we're going to organize
an event, won't you to come speak to us?
Really?
Really.
Yeah.
I mean, that's, yeah, I'll come.
Good point.
Yeah.
But I think Jesus showed that, you know, in the way he carried himself.
I mean, he was a humble king.
Hang on before you read that. Let's take a break.
So he goes way off into the Gentile world, and a Canaanite woman from that vicinity
came to him crying out, Lord's son of David, which is an ironic phrase to use,
because she's definitely read the Old Testament from the Jewish culture.
She wouldn't have said Son of David.
But she also addressed him as Lord, which is what his whole mission to get his disciples
to do, which they haven't done.
yet by as as a whole she said have mercy on me my daughter is suffering terribly from demon possession now
here's where the reason this story gets controversial maybe that's a terrible word but where people don't
understand what was going on because jesus didn't answer a word nothing now i've always viewed
this as a powerful thing is that jesus also the reason he's a different kind of king than most people
is he listens.
There's other stories
where he just,
he listened.
When you think about
our relationship
with him as we go through life,
that's a really good quality
that he's willing
to listen.
Most leaders or most people
who think of themselves
at King,
just ask them something.
Trust me,
you're never,
they'll tell you
every philosophy there he is.
And so
he doesn't say a word.
So it's decided.
The disciples came to him and urged him, well, send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.
So not only did he not respond, now the disciples are like, well, she's annoying.
Yeah, somebody shut her up.
Shut her up.
This is one of these EGRs, what we call EGRs.
That's extra grace required to love this person.
So they're like, send them out.
That's a Bill Smith, there.
It is.
He answered, I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel, which is why I said,
his first mission was to save those, the Jews from Israel.
Of course, then you ask yourself, but what's he doing here?
His actions, remember what he said earlier in Matthew 11?
Wisdom's pretty right by his action.
But he's in the Gentile world having this conversation.
So the woman came and knelt before him.
Lord, that second time she's called him, Lord, help me, she said.
He replied, so now he's talking.
it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs,
which was kind of a slam?
Borderline.
Borderline.
I don't know.
Because she probably didn't exactly know what he meant by that, but she might have.
But then look, here's the third time.
Yes, Lord.
The third time she called him Lord.
She said, but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table.
Boy, was that the right answer.
That was it.
That was the one.
Jesus answered, woman, you have great faith.
Your request is granted.
And her daughter was healed from that very old.
I don't know.
You tell me.
It's just one of these little incidental happenings that gives you a little insight.
with anybody.
Yeah, we're going to start with the Jews
and then preach this message.
Don't stop of the Gentile world.
Just preach to the Jews.
Tell them the kingdom is here.
The kingdom is near.
Repent.
You know, he told his disciples,
don't stop at the Gentile world.
He goes, go first to the children of Israel.
So that was the format.
But it shows you, even then,
he didn't make a rule of it.
Yeah.
He was flexible.
enough to say, you know what, girl, you got a lot of faith. And it just, it was one of these
moments and it seems kind of strange, but it shows you he didn't say, I won't help you if you're a
Gentile at this point. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, my, because he did die for everybody.
He did. So my first to try to convince the Jews. I think that's why he was here. I think that he allowed
it to play out.
And he knew, he knew.
Because this is a statement saying, by the way, he said, check us out.
It's for everybody.
I think he knew she would come through.
Nobody excluded.
So my take is that I think this whole section before we get to Matthew 60.
If your agenda, if your agenda, there was a built-in prejudice about it, but he's not going
going to help us, you know, he keeps going to the Jews.
He's not going to us.
Jesus, no, he shouldn't think like that.
It's for everybody.
It is.
But he definitely had an order in place that he was going to,
how this was going to play out.
But this whole section, in my opinion,
has been about building up the faith of the 12.
Yeah.
To get them ready for what's about to happen.
You got to remember dealing with Gentiles in that world.
I mean, and they've been watching the Jews for 1,500 years operate under the law emojis.
Let's face it, the old rank Gentiles, there weren't,
There wasn't many rules with M. I'm out. It was just dog, eat dog. I mean, a wicked bunch.
You know what I'm saying? Well, and they were told to keep away from him for that very reason.
So I think he's signaling through this what happens here to his own 12 that there's going to come a time where everybody,
this gospel is going to go out. Because remember, Peter's watching it. Peter eventually is going to have to be almost forced to go see Cornelius.
And that's the next chapter on why.
the whole question is because Jesus asked him, hey, by the way, who do they say I am?
Who do they say I am?
He's trying to establish the fact he's the savior of the world.
And he asks him a question, but that question, you know, about Peter getting the keys to the kingdom and being the same as the church of Christ, his body on the earth, the kingdom of God, that's all brought together in Matthew 16.
And then the shocker of sharks, by the way, from that time on,
from that time on, he began to explain that he must go to Jerusalem and die.
He suffered all this stuff from the chief priest, teacher.
The same ones he's arguing with, they're going to kill me.
But three days, I'll rise from the dead.
So all that's leading up.
And this girl just happened to be somebody out there in the middle of nowhere.
But remember, he had just had the experience with the Pharisees
where they questioned about the washing your hands
and then they got offended and they left.
Remember because the disciples said...
If anybody should have been offended,
it should have been this one.
That's my point.
My point is he was sharper with her than he was.
They basically called her a dog.
And it shows you,
these little caveats had come up while he was on the earth.
It shows you that he didn't have like an agenda
that could not be broken.
He was there for everybody.
Yeah, I agree.
I think there's something to be said about exceptions,
but I think it was done in love.
And I really think he knew she was so humble that she was unoffendable,
which is a place we all need to be.
Exactly.
And just think if our world was unoffendable.
Like this woman, she didn't take any, you know, offense that he described her situation for what it was.
He was being truthful.
I mean, these are splinteroffs.
These were, they had allowed terrible things.
Adolacy.
Just happenstance had to run upon this little girl.
But this woman, she had a heart.
She, she caught, Jason's right.
She called it.
But Matthew recorded it for a reason.
She called him Lord three times.
You know, that was better than most had done up until this point.
And took no offense and said, yeah, even the crumbs will be good for me.
Yeah.
I'm a dog.
You're right, but I'll take the crumbs.
He's like, all right, this is the kind of heart I'm looking for, right?
I mean, which is, which made it.
powerful. It's kind of like we lump all rednecks together, but she was kind of saying,
hey, I am, I am. Most people in our culture, once he brought up the dog statement,
they're gone. They go. They're like, so who do you think you are there?
But remember what her purpose was. Let's take a break. Her purpose was to get the demon out of her
daughter. Exactly, which made her desperate. And I think that's the whole point here. You know,
there has to be desperation and brokenness when you come to Jesus.
You've got a, when he started this thing off saying,
Blessed are the poor and spirit and those who mourn.
What was the third one?
The meek.
Yeah, the meek.
Well, all those qualities, she's exhibiting.
And those who hunger and thirst for righteousness.
Our daughter has a demon here.
She's doing those qualities.
And it comes back to that.
And guess what?
it worked.
I mean, and look, I don't take for granted that she called him Lord three times.
I mean, when you get to the book of Corinthians and you say, what was the problem?
I mean, I have Corinth on the brain because I was just there.
And I just, I saw all these statues.
Plus, she's basically saying, hey, I'll take the Crohn's.
Well, right.
You know.
Right.
Right.
But I saw these statues and I saw this when I, now that when I read Corinthians, I'm
like, I see the problem. But you got to remember, over 90 times in the book of 1st
Corinthians, he brought up Jesus being Lord. Over 90. You say, what was their problem? I think
they had a surrendering problem to the Lord. So I just think it's significant that three times
she had that, which is what Jesus was trying to accomplish because the whole reason
you get to the next chapter, which is kind of a pivotal chapter, when he's like,
who do you say I am?
Lord's a good answer.
Right.
The son of God, you know?
Right.
And like I said, I think he's setting some Preston here in two ways.
One is what people would view as an exception.
If you're God, there's really no such thing as an exception because you're going to do what
you're going to do.
So he decided to cast the demon out because this woman had great faith.
Yeah.
He's the son of God.
He can do whatever he wants to.
It doesn't.
He still had his plan in place about how he was going to go about it.
And the plan went just like he said it was.
It was mostly Jewish until then it was Gentiles.
Yep.
And it went out everywhere.
And Jay's mentioned before about the woman at the well.
That was another instance where, you know, she's in Samaria, which is another.
You know, he didn't stop and say, well, really I have to research.
reach out to the Jews, and I mean, right now you're out.
I mean, no, no, he's too.
And there had been others.
You remember there was a, there was a, we had already looked at a, a centurion.
Remember, it was a Roman that he had healed his son.
So there had been other exceptions along the way.
Yep.
But he still had the children.
Well, I think these are love moments, you know.
And I think there are also moments.
You had to plant the seed that this is going to be for everybody.
Right.
So which is why, because here his 12 were all Jews.
I think they were all Jews, right?
The Chosen 12, yeah.
So that's going to be a problem because you're going to tend to gravitate toward your own.
But I will say.
You remember Peter, not associating in Galatia?
He wasn't associated.
He struggled with it even.
Well, and we would have had the same problem.
Right.
That's it.
He kind of gathered up his Jewish buddies and some of them Gentile.
I don't love it, but this bunch.
Well, which is why I said, I don't like big cities, but I just went to one for the love.
of humanity.
But to say that I went there on a vacation, no, if I'd have gone on a vacation,
I'd never set foot in that city.
I'd have been on the outskirts the whole time and would have had a way more wonderful time.
Even fish at the little fish restaurant.
Well, I told them, I was like, look, if I ever come back, you know where to find me.
I'll be down here on this beach.
Well, they have good fish.
Yeah, and I was going to look into getting a boat around here and go out there and catch my own fish.
But, you know, to show you that the disciples were understanding,
you remember at the end of John.
He was right at the end, and he was in the temples.
And I mean, he was just another week or two from dying.
And you remember there was a situation where some Gentiles came in.
And he's in the outer courts of the temple.
So, I mean, they were really pressing their luck here.
And he said, and some Gentiles came.
They wanted to see him.
They wanted to hear him.
But two of the disciples, I can't remember which two it were, was.
They took the Gentiles to him.
And I've always thought about that.
Even then they were starting to get.
it like you know what maybe this is bigger than just us yeah so i mean to me you see those little
moments of growth that got them where they needed well that's what i was going to bring up about this
idea referring to him as lord you know in peter's first sermon when he got down to verse 36 he said
god has made this jesus whom you crucify both lord and christ i mean now it's just understood at
this point he's referring to him as lord and in the corinthian letter paul when he got to the end
in the first getting in 16 he said if anyone does not love the lord a curse be on him come
oh lord and it's the same emphasis about recognizing as lord of all right yeah which is really good
yeah because the next verse the final verse and corinthens is my love to all of you in christ
jesus which i mean not only it reminds me that verse that says you know god is in all and
through all and, you know, I think that's Ephesians four.
But same principle.
He's Lord of all.
He loves everyone that trickles down to us.
Well, and I think the two greatest ironies are from what happens with the Gentiles later,
is that one, Peter was sent to, for the first time to share the gospel of Cornelius,
which opened the doorway for all these early Gentiles to come into the church.
And then the bigger one even than that was the irony that the Pharisee of Pharisees, Paul, Saul, would become the one who would work.
But even that, even that, we're so racially divided and prejudice that he still had to give a sign to show that they could receive the Holy Spirit.
He had to do a miracle.
And because people just, they just weren't going to accept it unless they saw a supernatural act.
That's pretty sad about humanity, which is what we need now.
But you say, well, we have Jesus and the same mission is accomplished because once people experience Jesus, that's what tears down racial and prejudicial walls.
That's what the world, they attack us for being in Jesus.
But that's what they fail to realize that what they're trying to accomplish and trying to bring all races and cultures together.
I mean, Jesus did perfectly, and he did it in love, which is what will make it last.
Yeah, because all the other stuff won't last.
Won't last.
I mean, if you try to make it just about laws or about rights or about all the stuff that we've tried to make it,
we're in as bad a shape today as we've been since the Civil War.
It's almost the world is like, it's like the idea of it is the mission.
Yeah.
That's all they talk about.
Everything is, we have to stop and take notice of our differences.
Well, that's not success.
No.
That's a distraction.
When we reach a phase where those things are not noticed because of the greater unity in love.
And I think Christ Jesus is the greatest example of that.
I mean, that's when you've truly beaten it.
That's right.
Let's take our last break.
Well, that's why I mentioned Jason, my sermon Sunday.
That division is.
is the greatest way to have tyranny over people.
If you can keep people divided in many, many areas
where they can't unify it in one voice,
then a small number can control a large number
because they're all splintered and divided.
I mean, that's what the evil one, that's his tactic.
I was just in a place where 22 different countries
had come together in Jesus and was there a week.
And were we unified?
Yes. I mean, we had all these countries who have actually warred against each other in the same ring.
Yeah.
With me over in countries that typically Americans detest and abhor.
Right.
But we were all there for a common ground.
And after a while, I didn't know where they were from because they were from different places.
It didn't matter.
And they, and everybody knew I was from just because they tried to imitate me talking so slow.
And the southern access, southern U.S. access, they're a worldwide phenomenon.
Yeah.
Have you noticed that?
Because most people talk really fast.
But we don't.
Why is it?
I don't know, but I know this.
I would say like two sentences.
And then my interpreter would say like a paragraph.
And I'd say, hey, fella, are you adding to, you know, to what I'm saying?
And he went, yes, but it's good.
so you were just basically giving him sermon ideas that's what that's what was happening there but he said
yeah i mean because i was trying to get the the general idea of what you're saying you know the hardest
thing for me jays all the times i've spoken in other countries and cultures is that i'm kind of a
i'm kind of a you know pop culture person like me mentioning karen sunday we were talking about that in the
sermon and you and missy not know what i was talking about but that's kind of my style but you
You know, you go into another culture where you don't know anything about it.
And when you're speaking to them, you don't know how to make any reference to anything like this.
So I have to totally change my style of presentation.
Well, you have to.
Having Karina for a few years helped me because when we were...
You'd say stuff and she would have no idea.
Well, Al, I realized that I would say 80% of everything I say is some sort of idiom.
That's why.
Because she...
I mean, it's just things you wouldn't.
think about it.
You're like, I mean, I'm up to here with this.
She's looking just blank or, you know, you better pull the plug on that.
Pull plug.
Is there a plug?
She don't, that doesn't translate.
So after a while, I just couldn't talk to her.
I got to, I got to learn just to speak in sentences without illustrations.
So then I just got into that mode.
I had no idioms when I did that one sermon, none.
And so he's like, that was easier than I thought.
I was like, well, I just, I didn't.
I think it takes out being funny and all, but they kept laughing.
I'm not sure what they were laughing.
They were laughing at you, Jay, is there?
I think so.
And I said, it's okay.
This Afghan, he kept saying, and I was like, I don't understand.
He was like, you're funny.
I said, I got that.
Just your way about you.
I guess, you know, I'm not, because I had no illustrations and no idioms.
It was, and mainly just a lot of scripture.
Yeah.
That's what I have to.
I figured, that's what I wound up having to do as I was like, they'll get Bible.
I just have to give it to them.
It's just out of my comfort zone because it's not usually the way I present.
And you have to over explain.
It's like when I said, I asked the three questions.
I went to Acts 17. We were in Athens, so I thought, why not? Three questions. How'd you get here?
But instead of just saying, how'd you get here? Because here may be up to the interpretation.
So I would say, how did you get on the earth?
Yeah. What are you doing on the earth? I mean, because you have to be specific because here,
like us, you know, we hear with our ears and then we're here. Well, they have the same kind of problem.
in their language and then he's trying to say pick it's like how many words are there for love in the
greek language five four or five yeah five so which one we're talking about because because they're
completely different if you talk about agape love which is mostly what you see in the new
testament that's a whole different concept than i love fried chicken you know or i love well it's like me
i was stupid and well because i thought i wish i knew a word you
You know, I finally found Bravo, which was great, because I could say that in any situation, or most.
Because I wanted to say something.
But this waitress come out, and she's like, basically, how did you like it?
And I said, agape, because I knew that.
That's the wrong word.
She's looking at me like I'm making a move on her, you know.
This is like, they're different words for love, Chase.
At least you didn't go Eros.
Because that's the, that's a really good.
Well, I just thought, okay, you got a good point.
So then I asked her, that's where I come on with Bravo.
I said, what's your favorite Greek word?
And she said, Bravo.
I said, that's it.
That's what I'm going with.
Because, you know, you're constantly getting coffee and, and I mean, I'd sip it,
which, by the way, Phil, you, this coffee over there, this is your coffee.
Everywhere.
No, it was terrible.
That's why you would love it.
It was good.
The strongest coffee.
And it stains the cup.
Lumpy and chewy.
I mean, just, but it tasted like.
I don't know about the chew.
Well, there was a couple of cups that I had that I was like, whoa, this has got creatures in it.
Chase they were giving you what is left over over there after four or five days.
But it was the strongest.
I had to back down.
I started asking for American coffee.
That means a filter was involved.
And then that was, but that was too weak, but I couldn't drink.
I couldn't drink this.
Just, yeah, I said, first place, I was like, yeah, give me, give me a cup of coffee.
Strong.
Don't ask that.
Undrinkable.
That's right.
I just sift a little bit of it.
And I immediately started shaking.
Wow.
But, Jim, they're known for that all through that region.
I mean, there's, there's a coffee shop every 20 yards.
So if you, you could do that.
But I mean, I'll tell you this, word of warning, it'll blow right through you.
And that's the other thing.
Then you start having some other issues.
Exactly.
Well, travel is not easy.
I mean, it's hard.
But, you know, I think about it with us, it's so it's hard for us to complain because we can get on a plane and fly over there.
Can you imagine if you had to get on one of those boats, you know, and it was months of travel.
You read about some of Paul's exploits and acts.
You're thinking, you know, I mean, it's hard for us.
I brought that up. But I mean, to me, this was Jesus' mission trip to his disciples. I mean, he basically took a mission trip. And he showed them one instance. Because mission trips, they do have a profound effect on you. Which that was the point of the woman at the well, too. No doubt about it. Same thing. But I got the same sensation. I mean, it made me glad. I mean, I was way more positive about Americans.
You appreciate home. When I got back, which everybody's like, huh, this place is, I'm like, yeah. But just.
Just trust me.
It could be worse.
Let's just siphon that for a second.
It could be worse because I just saw worse.
I mean, that was worse.
You had the same feeling I always have.
It makes me appreciate home.
But it also makes me appreciate brothers and sisters wherever I go.
Because their passion, just like Jay's described,
these people coming out of these terrible situations in their own country and culture,
and yet they're so in love with Jesus that they'll risk their life to let over.
It's next level.
That's inspiring.
These people that I was with, I mean, some of them may not be here because they've
decided to go back to their country and go public for Jesus, which means instantaneous
death if they're caught.
You know, you just got to tip your hat and say, wow.
Yeah.
I mean, nobody like tried to get them to do it.
That's just what they decided they were going to do.
But I've noticed the biggest reason why is because most of them,
are shocked they're alive anyway.
I mean, just their journey to get out of there?
That's right.
They almost all lost their life.
Every story that we heard, there was two things I noticed noticeable.
They almost died, and they all had some kind of dream about searching God or, you know,
just in their most miserable state.
And, I mean, I hate to bring up something so crazy at the end, but I did notice that.
They all were just laying there one night and just said, you know, they had a dream.
that, you know, God was real or he was pursuant of.
And they're like, and so they started seeking godly things,
which led them to this refugee camp where here's this guy,
you know, Oklahoma sharing Jesus being good to him.
So it's crazy.
God spoke through dreams before.
I wouldn't hear again.
Well, I'll tell you this, in the same area is still going on today.
And thank God for it.
I love it.
All right.
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