Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 38 | Dating Ducks, Black Beard Phil, and the Pregnant Virgin

Episode Date: December 15, 2019

Jase, Al, and Phil talk about the love languages of ducks, Phil dyes his beard, and Al leads the discussion on the Virgin Mary.  See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Unachanged What about you? They can take a sheet of music, Phil. They've never heard the song and they can just sing it without ever hearing it. And it all sounds good.

So when I started singing... Why are you there? Why are you there? I'm nowhere. Where are we at? Yeah, why are you there? We're way back with Genesis right after Cain and that. Abel. Phil's had a thought. We got the children of Kane and Abel and the human race begins.

Lehmack married two women, one woman named Adam Zilla. That was pre-law of Moses, of course. Yeah. Adigay birth to Jabal. He was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock. Some people are good with cows. His brother's name was, are y'all listening? Jubal. This is Genesis chapter four for crying out of that way back when the human race first started. The brother of Jabal, his name was Jubal. Listen carefully. He was he was the father because you said some people just seem to have the knack. Yeah. Jubil, he was the father of all, everybody coming from the human race, who play the harp and flute. Really? You say so some individuals we've noticed, you say, it just seems like they were born with the gift like Jason is talking about singing making music well here's a verse way back over there

that says God made some people who are good they are musically inclined it's in their DNA according to that text it's actually a valid point whether people believe in God or not why are we always moved by by music and by the people who are really good at it and who have just the natural skills they just it's a multi multi multi billion dollar industry I've seen people they can sit down on a piano and just start, they start playing and they hear and then they start making music. I have two kids. I know that's what I'm saying. It's just.

And God would say, I did that. Right. I'm the one to put them out. Another question would be how in the world in Genesis chapter 4, you know, at least five, six thousand years before Jesus came on the earth? How in the world would someone know that? Yeah. How would Moses know there were people who were musically inclined and it came from Jubal

until he wrote it down, he probably was like, whoa, you see what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a good point. What we've tried to do is, you know, we sing, but actually it's a worship experience. We're worshiping a God that we believe is real. I mean, I look around at his creation and see the transformed lives of people,

and I say, there's a God, and he's alive. You remember that song? We had old songbook 728B. I mean, when he said that, I'd think, okay there is a god he is a lie he is a liar what i was going to say is when we practice you know because i'm there i kind of give dissertations about worship experience from a biblical view then my wife i handed over we're a team you know think priscilla and aquila i guess

and then she deals with anything technical about singing but it's not just singing we're we're worshiping god and we're trying to lead the congregation so we have a little posse that we practice but they were singing this song we were all going to get up there and sing so and it was a four-part harmony so i know i'm a bass well just from being in there i started like trying to get by the bases you know and and sing but i noticed every time i'd get off they would they would like get real close to me and like be loud you know like okay that means i'm all they're like listen to me the reason i gave you the genesis four text was to remind the people that You're no Jubal.

Our background, some in our background have suggested that stringed instruments are not allowed worshiping God. And I just read a text that says he, Jubal, was the father of all the ones of strings instrument. You take that and you say, and once John the revelator saw a vision and he looked up and he saw the 24 elders and all of them had a harper in their hand, which is the stringed instruments. I think that's Revelation 5. And it was given to them by God. And I'm like, well, I said, I've never read where string and instruments were sinful.

So I'm just looking at it saying God made people who are good at it, but don't ever make the mistake of playing them in front of me. I'm not buying it. Some of these people attach it to the actual building, which Acts 17 says, God does not live in buildings built by hands. So they're like, look, you can go down the road and listen. to it and sing with it. But once you go into the building,

then all of a sudden, something, I wouldn't say magical. That's a man-made regulation. Man-made regulation. And just for our listeners, we come out of an Acapala heritage, so that's why we've discussed this

adenosium for most of our lives. So that's, if you don't come out of our heritage, you're like, what are they talking about? You know what got me on it is, first Thessalon is four. When Jesus comes back, it said God will blow a trumpet.

Well, you know, if that's when we're going and he breaks out a trumpet, if somebody wants to break out a guitar and sing praise as a God, I'm like, this is a loud big-time trumpet here. Oh, I'm telling you. Worldwide, Trump. You'll remember this conversation when you hear the trumpet. But I'll give you, you know, it's duck season. The ducks have not come down here today.

We got two-mile-drakes, but it's not about the quantity. It's the quality. because they were two of the prettiest things I've ever seen. These two-mileers, they came, they were singles, but, you know, they came about an hour apart. I mean, you could tell they came from way up north, coming high. They see our little spread, yeah. Dots in the sky.

And their wings locked, you know, the hair stuffed up on the back of my neck. We start calling lightly. Phil was doing most of the calling. He's hitting them on the corners, and they literally just came down into the spread. It was like you're so excited to shoot them. And then when you get up, you realize there's no chance he can get out of here. But is this, is this true that single drakes? Because a lot of times they will just come right into your duck.

So is it kind of like duck harmony.com? Like they're single. They're looking. They don't have their mate. It's like me. A duck call is that. Because a group of ducks don't usually respond as well. That single Drake, is it because he's looking for the hen?

Yeah, he's looking for the hen. I'm thinking it is duck mingle.com. It will turn from where it is now. A lot of duck hunters don't realize that they're in one of the best groups, a hot hole they've ever been on up through Arkansas and on up and then it'll get some great spots up there. We're on a spot that's not that great. But we do, there are enough ducks that come down that it's a good spot,

but it's not a great one. So I could hunt great spots every day if I wanted to. So we just chose to just, Just like one of our hunting parties said yesterday Because we have it This has been, I would say, The worst first split of a duck season ever I do believe, numbers was

Last year was about the same Well, I did a little bit early We're coming off the worst duck season than 20 years So one of our hunting party yesterday Your son-in-law I said you know what I've realized Because what we had, we had 10 And I think it was 7 7

Scalp Which are we call them blackjack and they're pretty far down the table fair. They came in, I mean, it sounded like an aircraft carrier was crashing in our decoys. Well, I assumed everybody heard that because it was just in there, splash, splash, splash. So I stood up and I see three of them in the decoys.

So I started counting. One, two, and everybody knows in the blind, that means... We're fixing to shoot at three. I didn't even say three. I'm down there doing something in the other end of the blind, and I just heard a countdown, which means somebody is trained on ducks

and fixing the groundswit them. That's an unwritten code. All I heard was one, two. Well, we'd already gotten to two in that long, one, two. Well, that didn't leave me with one more second. Well, they started shooting. We've started the argument. And look, there's their ringnecks, actually.

the ringnecks, Jay said scop, all right, I'd scop, but they were sitting out there right in front of me, but I didn't know that. I didn't hear, I didn't hear it coming in. I just heard a man giving the countdown. I said, well, they're ground swatting a teal or something. Over and the edge of the E-cor is about 60 yards.

Maybe they hope they'd get him. Well, I'm looking up where they're pointing their guns, and there's about 4 or 5E ringnecks sitting on my right at about 30 yards. I didn't know that. The ducks were on their side. I raised up, knocked down two of them. well, Burley said he couldn't see for the brush. Jay was behind the blind, taking a leak.

Si was asleep on the bench. And Phil, he just, he didn't hear, you know, as well as he used to. And so when I was doing the countdown, I thought everybody had trained guns. No, I was the only one. So you're thinking you got back up. Well, it spawned a big argument. And then when Jay got here, Jay got back, he was like ripping us because he was like, that was pitiful. I mean, him ducks letting a decadent.

and y'all get two what's wrong with y'all and i was like well you weren't even in a blind you're part of this too i mean i feel like you know i'm with some kids do you need to go to the bathroom johnny people were getting testy out over five or six ringnecks yeah i said boys you don't want to get let the argument flare up too much over ringnecks well what jay made a profound statement he said what i realize is it's not about how many ducks you kill It's about ripping the guy next to you. And he's really right, because look, all this panic has set in because you're trying to do something to get ducks.

Look, we said Phil was flaring all the ducks the other day by his beard. Look, so he comes out two days later looking like... Everybody take a look at this. This was like this. Great, great. They used to call me the gray beard. But now my name is James. Blackbeard.

Blackbeard. He went through about a 10, for 10 years he looked like Cypress small. See, here, let's make the compare it. There you go. That's an accurate cover of your book. We thought that might be flaring the ducks because it got a little too white. It's like mine, I have speckles, but mine's still cypress, Malsy. This here and brush and all, this was, that stood out too much.

And I thought, you know, and they kept saying, you know, you scared them. So I went with the black whiskers. So you're not really trying to make a youth statement. It's more. Everybody thought you might be trying to get back on the scene. Yeah. No, no. Okay.

Mr. Casey, well, you just want to stay younger with all them little girls and holler at you. I said, no, it's not that. Well, besides, I think mom may put a little coloring in her hair, too. I mean, I'm just saying. You know, it's the Christmas season. We're talking about, you know, Jesus coming here. And most people, when they think Christmas, they think, what am I going to get? You know, and I noticed a few weeks ago that Forever 21, a clothing company, because, Phil, you've probably never even heard of it.

Forever 21, you do a lot of shopping there. They sell, look, they sell clothes with one theme in mind. If you wear these clothes, you will forever be 21. Now, where do they get that concept? I have no idea. Well, guess what happened about three or four weeks ago? Forever 21 went bankrupt. Uh-oh.

So much for that. It's coming together for me now. But my point is, so much of it isn't about. So forever 21 is forever gone. I was speaking somewhere. I was like, the only way you're going to be forever 21 is Jesus. Yeah. Well, this is truly dying. The old whiskers dark. So the ducks can't see. That is precisely why I did that. That's right. You know, your ducks are, they're pretty slick. Well, and the paranoia sets in, the more you're you turn your head and your white beard, they see that. So up in the thicket, there's nothing that bright white

except a crane sitting over there. You might fool them and they think it's a crane in the bushes. Well, for a while, it looked like moss hanging from a tree. But when it gets too white, they know it's not moths. Well, all I know is the more we don't kill ducks, the more paranoid people get in a duck blind. I know everybody's touting the fact that there's no difference between males and females these days. Everybody, they're just, I'm 50 genders.

I'm a cat. I'm a dog. I'm a human, I'm a male, I'm a female, and everybody's wondering what they are. But the bottom line is women never have to worry about lengthy whiskers on their face. Most ones. What little piecefuzz, and they pull that out. But they don't get to looking like this. No, not if they're female.

It's probably a true statement. If they do, they typically aren't, they don't connect very well. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying you wind up in a carnival. Yeah. But, you know, you're right. It's the land of genders. and you decide.

I saw the other day the first man had a baby. I was like, no. No. It was touted as the first man has a baby. I was like, no, a man didn't have a baby. I don't know what we're calling what, but it wasn't, that doesn't work that way. Biology hasn't changed.

In this internet age now, it's all about the headline. You know, they'll put a headline up there, and then you start reading it and it has nothing to do. Right. I mean, they just want you to stop, click, and read. And really you don't even have to read it. Just stop and click. And therefore you get the ads pop in front of you

and then go on to the next headline. And it don't even have to be true. No. Most of it's not true. Their field with every kind of wickedness, greed, just depravity. So we're full-scale paranoia. Si was wanting to go yesterday.

He wanted to move to a place that I've scouted. He hadn't been there. Sae don't scout. He barely makes it to the blind. And he sits there. And if we're not killing ducks, he's like, we're in the wrong home. I'm like, based on what, you're scouting?

So, Sa, I wanted us all move yesterday to a place that I just scouted that's dry land. Yeah. I was like, Sa, I'm not going and hunting dry land. We're deer hunting? I'll put a hondo that if you go there, you will not kill a duck. And he's, you know, but he never got off. He aren't. Well, we've never had a bad hunt there.

I'm like, Sa, you hadn't been there since last year. Things have changed. But it's just, that's what happens when it's slow. So we're waiting on the water aisle. Duck season is slow, but we have plenty to eat. Duck wraps, duck and dressing. You say, well, you know, y'all are killing plenty to eat for food supply. Plenty.

So we're happy. Yeah. And look, those two milders today, majestic. I mean, it's all I need. It's not the quantity, but the quality. It is interesting that we're all getting older. I noticed the opening day I looked around, I thought, you know, there's only one man in our duck blind that's under 50. Yeah.

And that's my son in Lost Stone. and he ain't far about it. He's about 45. So I thought, you know, we're all gotten older. But one of the good things about getting older is when you're younger, you're a little bit more, you know, you're, you want to kill everything all the time. You'll go chase. You'll crawl on your belly to get them. Now everybody is a little more into comfort.

Like you said, you can work two ducks in, a beautiful watch it all happen and be satisfied. It's like, you know. It's a challenge. I mean, if you're shooting ducks where there are no ducks, that's pretty impressive. Yeah. A lot of people would say, well, I noticed that I backed off out in the bushes, and I was watching people who build duck calls, but I notice they actually pick up their device that they build

and been selling for 30-something, 40 years. 40-plus. But I noticed that when they call, it's very sparingly, and they wait until the duck gets in a precise spot out there before they go, three four little licks and that they don't call him more and the duct just kind of right on in there most people make the mistake of calling way too much well you want if you would think if i'm a guy who came up with duck commandant it would be in your marketing interest to say you need to be calling all the time but that doesn't work listen i got a highball that a ring you know back

gah gah all people all we do is a little bit on the side it's at the precise moment their tails towards you, we just go, we kind of drag our first note. And we stop. And look, they'll just turn. They just come right in there. But think about why he's coming. Look, a single mile or Drake has broken off the herd. Why?

Because this time of year, right before they go back north, they're looking for a woman. Yeah, got to find a man. And so he's by himself. So you know, 99% of the time, that's what he's doing. Right. Why is he by himself? So when you call, there's a connection, especially if he locks his wings. I mean, it'd be like, just like you, you know, being at school or whatever,

when you, before you got married and you say something to a girl, well, if she ignores you, guess what? You're out. Now it's an internet dating website. That's how they find each other. But if she starts talking to you, you're like, oh, see. A Drake looking for a mate comes by. We let him call over a time or two.

He gets his back toward us so he doesn't have a real good reference point. Well, if he's looking for a maid, he's like, oh, my goodness. Well, she called because she saw him. I've hit the jackpot. He's like, oh, she noticed me. Right. So let me go take another look. Oh, she did it again.

She called again. So when you're drawn to that sound, whether you're a duck or a human, you know, that kind of stuff, you know, running the wrong woman can get you killed. Let me say, be wary. That's why what we'll do sometimes is if they won't come in, they circle six times. Well, then after Phil call, I'll call behind there because then he's like, oh, now I've got two of them interested. I've got to get in there now. Competition. Yeah.

Same thing as humans. There you go. There's a lot of them who look down, they won't matter. They think something ain't right about that set up. I think I see something moving in a brush over. Well, that's the same thing with human beings. Oh, yeah. That's right.

You've got a couple women talking to you later tonight. I'm not right about it. I'm not sure that sexy Lexi is who I think she is. Maybe there's some old guy in the basement. A lot of them fire up in there and they take off the other way and you're like, wait a minute, who moved, what happened? But they're looking. These dumps are. Danger, danger.

One mistake and you're in a pot. That's right. There are a lot of, I never realized. Same as life. Same as life. One mistake. And what is that Proverbs 7 that said stay away from the adulteress? Because her way is the highway to hell.

Yeah. That's proverb seven. Her slain are a mighty throne. I notice in Ecclesiastes is talking about women who seduce men, but these days in America it's always the men who are after the women. I haven't heard anyone say that women ever make the mistake of seducing men. Not once, have I heard that? You reckon that's ever happened?

A woman seduced a man and brought him down. I think it's a good possibility. I've had a few women come up and make some gestures, you know. Yeah. Oh, you have been sarcastic. Okay. All right, where are we today, Al? Well, I guess this is a perfect segue because we're talking about why we need Jesus,

which is perfect for the end of that discussion. But we talked about last time the idea that as we were looking from the Old Testament forward, that Jesus was predicted. You had all these prophecies. I wonder how many, what is the number on the prophecy? Oh, it's a hundred. hundreds of prophecies. And, you know, a prophecy was in time, real time as to whatever was going on in the Old Testament. But then we would see them pointing forward. You get these little

glimpses. So I could see where people would miss it in their day, but we have the hindsight of being able to look back. And one of those we talked about was that, you know, out of all the kings that were there, there was just a handful of them that actually had a heart for God. One of them was David. And God told him something interesting in 2 Samuel 7, 16. He said, your house, I'm talking about David, and your kingdom will endure forever before me. Your throne will be established forever. So he was, you know, and you can imagine David's hearing this coming from God. And this is at the end, you know, he's hearing this and he's thinking, I'm sure, he's thinking physical, you know, but it's just going to go.

Sure. But of course, what God was relaying was something that would happen through his lineage, which would be Christ. Well, and if I just happened to be there in a little. Luke 1 when Mary had this conversation with the the angel I think it's Luke 129 Mary was greatly troubled at his words the angel because it said you know the angels said greetings you have found favor with the Lord you know you have an angel tell you that she's like uh-oh but the angel said to or do not be afraid Mary you have found favor with God you will be with child and give birth to a son and you are to give him the name Jesus,

he will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father, David, which was the prophecy. And then it says, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. And then it says his kingdom will never end, which is what we brought up in a previous podcast about this prediction of the kingdom. Yeah.

Well, here's the king. here's the kingdom, here's from the line of David, which would have been a fulfillment of a lot of places. Well, in two different gospels deals with the lineage coming all the way down the pike. And it's interesting because the one in Matthew 1, you follow it down, the lineage, and you see it comes to Joseph, who was the earthly father of Jesus, but wasn't engaged in him. He wasn't physically, biologically, his father. Because she was a virgin, right? but and yet God still made sure that lineage went through David.

So you go back and you look over in Luke 3 and there's another lineage there. A lot of the same names you recognize. But guess what? When it gets to David, it forks and it's a different son. But then it goes all the way to Mary. So God was making sure we all knew that this lineage was going to come through David. And it was two different sons. They fork off there, but it still winds up with Mary and Joseph,

which is really interesting that God just died. it all the way from Genesis to about 5 or 600 BC and then you just have to go with a kind of secular history. Right. From there on into when Jesus actually showed up. But the lineage is there,

the seed line. Do you know what I found interesting too? I was reading this this morning before. Matt Owens and I looked at that. But it wasn't that just God just said, okay, I'm going to come through a virgin. You know, it was like other circumstances around. You had Zachari and a

Elizabeth, who he prepared the way that he is the author of the womb, because here was Elizabeth who couldn't have kids. And all of a sudden it's like- And she and Mary are related. They're cousins, yeah. And I think he did that, which would produce John the Baptist, as a way to realize, okay, because it's so unbelievable to believe, especially if you're a virgin.

I mean, what? it's like almost impossible. So that's why people who don't believe in God scoff at it. All right. It's too outlandish for them to say, man. But if you read the story, it's really inspiring because that happens right before because John the Baptist prepared the way. Well, he came here uniquely too from a barren woman,

which is what didn't seem possible. And what I always found funny about the story is Zachorai, since he didn't believe it was going to happen. He was an encounter with God. He was a priest, yeah. And he said, I don't believe it. So the Lord made him where he couldn't speak after he told him. And he came out doing sign language trying to tell people that God was going to give him a son,

which is, you know, I thought, man, if I had that power, because size is the worst one. I mean, you know, I tell him we're going to go do something about the duck. We're going to go here. He never believes it. Well, then it happens. And all of a sudden it was his idea. But I thought, you know what I really need in that situation is that? I just don't want to hear anything he has to say.

If you could just silence it. Because then he saw it and it said his tongue was loose. And then he was able to say, okay, I was wrong. I hope that was the first thing he said. But when I read that, you know, it meant a lot more to think, you know, it kind of makes sense that the one that prepared the way came in a way where Mary could say, okay, this is doable. I mean, I know it sounds

crazy. And you brought up that impossible. In that section, one of my favorite verses is Luke 137, right after he said, this has happened, he'll be the son, you know, a great one from the most high. It says, for nothing is impossible with God, Luke 137.

Because Elizabeth, you know, verse 36 says, even Elizabeth, your relative is going to have a child in her old age. And she who was said to be barren is in her six months. So she was six months ahead. But it said, for nothing is impossible with God. That was the principle he was trying to get them all to see. Even Jesus coming from a virgin God.

But even think about the practical of what that did for Mary. We talked about this last time. She, I mean, she's like a lot of young women today, except that the way she got pregnant was different. And she knew that. And her husband knew that, Joseph, her betrothed. But nobody else knew that. So she had that pressure.

You know, as her belly begins to grow, everybody's looking at her like, you know. And Joseph is hedging a little bit too. He's hedging and somebody's like, yeah, give me the virgin birthday. So she doesn't have anywhere to go where anybody can, you know, we'll say anything other than, yeah, we heard the story.

except for Elizabeth. So she packs up like a lot of young women do when they're in trouble because, you know, they're ashamed. And she goes off to find somebody to talk to. It just so happens that it's the person who God has wrought his own miracle for her to become pregnant. And you remember when she walks in and she first sees Elizabeth. What were they about six months apart? Six months apart in terms of being pregnant.

And he was the forerun. So remember what she said when she comes and first speaks to her. Elizabeth, she said, the baby in my womb just leapt for joy when you mentioned about what happened. I've always liked that. I mean, that was incredible. Because people, there's a group of people in our world who don't believe their babies if they're inside their mother's womb, you know. But he even knew at that moment through, because it was God's providence.

But somehow the presence of Jesus impacted John the Baptist in the womb. the womb, that therefore encourage the moms. I mean, that's a powerful moment. It's a super powerful. Because really it comes down to whether you're in the womb or outside of it. It comes down to where is the baby coming from. I mean, that is the question. Lisa and I do a lot of work on behalf of the pro-life movement in the country.

I mean, and part of the reason why is because Lisa had an abortion when she was 16 because she was faced with it wasn't my child, but it was in between us dating. But she was forced into that thought process because the world says it's not really a baby. And her own parents believed the lie and said, you know what, it's better for you to just go. It's not really a baby anyway. It's just a blob of tissue. And so she went and aborted her baby, something that she's regretted for the last almost now 40 years. Even though we got together, obviously, we had children.

So we tell that story to people. We're just like, look, when something, when you're pregnant, you obviously, you know, whether you're married or unmarried, there's now a child growing inside of you that it matters. It matters in the world. Who knows what's going to happen with this life? That's designed by God. Designed by God. Let's put here for a purpose. And when you think about when you abort a baby, you're not just aborting one life, but you're aborting a generation of lives that would come from that life. Mary could have easily have done back then what women do now. Exactly. Well, they're all saying that they're all saying that they're all

saying that's, you know, I'm not married, so I'm pregnant here, and I know what they're going to think. So the best thing to do, just get rid of this. So, so Jesus probably would have been a victim of abortion, very possible. It's a great point. I ever thought about that. What if Mary had aborted the Savior of the world? Well, at that time, the king was, they were killing all the babies. I mean, you, and you see that even in history, that was kind of their way. They've been killing babies for a long time. Yeah. Well, they got, they'd get wind of a prophecy. these kings, well, they start killing all the babies. It happened with Moses, remember?

Yep. Because they were fearful of the Hebrew, so they told the midwives, you know, you kill the boys and let the girls live. Well, I couldn't remember this in Jesus' story. Was it before they were born or after? It was after. It was up to two years old because he got the prophecy later. You remember the Magi stopped and visited King Herod on their way to find Jesus.

So when they shared with him what they were doing, all of a sudden he starts getting nervous. He's like, wait a minute. the king. Again, he's thinking physical kingdom. He's thinking somebody is thinking competition. That is true. As much as we're negative about our world, I mean, we got the ruler of their kingdom in that day saying let's go kill all two-year-old babies. And it happened. I mean, after that, he thought, well, so once it happened, then he thought, wait a man, I got to trace this back. It's been within the last two years when those guys were here. So let's just kill every two-year-old male in Israel.

And the edict went down. How many, you know, and there's a verse that says the, the weeping and the crying reached the father. I think it's in, where was it? Oh, it's in Jose 111, Jeremiah 31. Those are the prophecies. And then you get to Matthew 2 and it tells the story. I'm sitting here talking to you two boys, my sons, and y'all, we begat myself and your

mother. and I'm just thinking, what if we had just said, no, let's, that's, that's kill them. We wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Right. I mean, you just think about what a loss that would have been. Well, we actually, that's part of our story, Dad. When mom is with us, you know, Lisa made a decision at 16, mom was 16. Yep.

When she got pregnant with me. And so even though you and her probably never talked about that is somewhere in the mind that's always an option, even 10 years before Roe v. Wade. It never came up with her. That's what she said. She said, you know, the way she was raised, she knew that even if you said, you know what, that's too much pressure for me because you had just signed a play at tech. You know, she said, I would have just lived with my grandmother and I'd have just raised you, you know, on my own. If Phil would have said no.

Yeah, that never came out. So that was her mindset. But, I mean, so people need to know that. I would have said, are you nuts? Yeah, it was, you were raised differently. That was murder. I thought about Tim Tebow, you know, I think their situation. was a medical condition where they recommended that she abort her baby,

Tim Tebow's mom. And she's like, you know what? No. I mean, I'm praying. I'm going with the power of God. I'm just not doing it. And guess who came out? Tim Tebow.

That's right. I mean, anybody who knows him, he's one of the most inspirational, positive people that helps so many people that can't help themselves. It's incredible. So God did all this to get Jesus here. And it's interesting because the Bible in Luke 1 and 2 and Matthew 1 and 2, 3, you see where all this kind of lays out. There was a lot of miraculous things that happened to get him here.

Then he gets here. And really the Bible just kind of goes dark about Jesus' growing up for 30 years. You see a little glimpse here. One time he was 12. Isaiah, Isaiah. He says he grew in strength and, you know, and the 12, when he was growing. when he was 12 he was missing for the you know they went to the they went to the the Passover and he got left behind Isaiah makes a strange statement this is 712

years before the baby was in Mary's womb the birth of Jesus who has believed our message Isaiah 53 and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed he's talking about Jesus watch He grew up before him, Jesus did, before his father, like a tender shoot. What does it mean, Al, and like a root out of dry ground? No beauty, no majesty to attract us, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. So, you know, a root out of dry ground is you're in the middle of Death Valley, and you look out there in the middle of the thing, and you see a little green chute sticking up out of all that dry,

dry, dry, dry. And you're like, whoa, where in the world did that come? A root out of dry ground, meaning he just didn't fit. No. And he was on purpose ordinary, not extraordinary. Nothing about his physical appearance, nothing about the way he handled himself. Because again, remember we've talked about. Pictures you see, that's kind of been, you can tell.

He didn't look like a Middle Eastern guy. This is no beauty or majesty to attract. to him. If you turned it around and just takes that for what it says, he wasn't must to look at. He didn't stand out among men like tall, handsome and the, no, physique and nope. You notice even the Hollywood.

In fact, Al, right after that, he was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows familiar with surfing. And here's what I've always thought. What does it mean? Like one from whom. men hide their faces. He was

despised and we esteemed him not. Now if you hide your face from somebody when you see him coming, you're seeing him and you're like, oh, and you turn your head. You can't look at him. That's what Isaiah said

he would be like. That is pretty amazing. The Bible says you brought up Hollywood, which is a great characteristic. All the movies they made about Jesus. He always looks the same. He acts different. Because he can't be a human. He's got to act subhuman. And he's, you know, he's beautiful looking.

It's like an androgynous looking. And yet at the same time, piercing, like, you know what I'm saying? They always do it like it was their image. But it's not a biblical. But when you read the Bible, it's not practical. You remember when he came to Nathaniel? And, you know, first he said he did something miraculous. He was like, hey, you remember when you were under that tree in a field thinking about, you know,

stairway to heaven. I saw you there. I knew what you were thinking. I mean, does it exactly say that? But that was the impression he gave. But then he's like, well, aren't you from Nazareth? Well, you can't be a man of God.

Nothing good. Once he saw him and said, where are you from? I mean, that'd be like us, you know, some of our parts of town here. You're from war and nine. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. You're from War and Nine.

Which, by the way, if I'm from Balkomville, you're like, Balkhamville. Balcomville. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Nope, he's out. So by the way, Let's talk about that because everybody, all the Pharisees, they kept saying that. Can any good thing come from Nazareth?

This was a section of Israel that was like, he was in the north. It's close to Samaria. We talked about the split kingdom. But it's interesting, they had no idea that he was born in Bethlehem. He shouldn't have been. The only reason he wound up there is because it was a census, remember. And so Joseph and Mary had to go down there because that's where they were, they had to register where you're from. So they go down, well, she wasn't planning to have the baby there.

And yet she does. But what they didn't realize is that all these circumstances were happening because in the Old Testament that Bethlehem birth back to the city of David, that's where David's from, by the way, would. Prophecy had to be fulfilled. So it's funny, all this abuse, and Jesus never corrects them. He never says, well, I'm not actually, I wasn't born in Nazareth. He just takes the abuse, you know.

And yet he wasn't. It'd be like us saying, it'd be like you and IJ saying, we're from Westman Row. If somebody asked you where you're from, you'd say West and Row, right? Yeah. So, but you're not really, you weren't born in West Monroe. You were born in Rustin. So was I. But nobody would ever know that because we grew up here.

And that's exactly what happened with Jesus. He was from Nazars, because that's where we grew up. He was actually born in Bethlehem, which fulfilled the prophecy. But the Pharisees didn't know that. Well, well, they still don't. I mean, you know, when I went to Israel two years ago, we had a church service in Bethlehem that's now Muslim Islam controlled. Really?

Oh, yeah. And here we go, and the guy gets up and preaches. We had a Saturday service because they moved their times around. And the building where we're at, it had been bombed 14 times. And the man that was preaching had been shot five times in the chest. His brother was killed with axes and knives. His son had been kidnapped. We had water, buckets of water down the aisles because they say if they throw some kind of fire cocktail in here,

that's because I leaned over and said, what's the buckets of water all about? And at first I was, I had to admit, I was a little fearful because I thought could this be number 15? Because once we crossed that wall and went into Bethlehem from Israel into the Palestine, which is they controlled Bethlehem, the whole mood changed. I never saw a woman. The men that looked at me, looked at me like, I want to hurt you. It just had a different vibe. And now we're going to pull up and start singing and have a guy preached Jesus.

One of the greatest sermons I've ever heard about Jesus. But he was still saying the same things we're talking about. Oh, he was here. He was born here. And he's coming back here and we're leaving here. And as he talked, you know, I thought, this is what we, we should be believing. This guy, he's not backing off, and he deems their threats as God is with me.

The reason they quit attempting to kill his life is the last two times they thought he was dead and he wasn't. Well, it spooked him because they thought, well, maybe there is something to this. Maybe God's keeping us their life. They shot the man five times. He was left, walked out of the church bill, they did a drive-by, and he took five bullets in the chest and lived. And still preach him. And when he got out of the hospital, guess what?

He went back and started preaching again. He told a funny story about, he said, you know, the one thing that upset me, not the getting shot, not my son getting kidnapped, not even my brother dying, because I know where he's at, I know he'll be back. He said, but what they did to shut him up is they would pull up with loud speakers in the back of their trucks while he was trying to do service. They quit threatening his life because they were scared of him. But you couldn't hear him over the speakers that they were, you know, spewing whatever their theology was.

And he said, nobody could hear what I was saying. They were drowning him out. So he said, I'll rasseled day and night. And I was thinking, what am I going to do? What am I going to do? And I was crying out to the Lord. And he said, and then the Lord said, which everybody kind of stopped like, is he saying the Lord spoke to him, you know? And he said, buy bigger speakers.

And so he said, I have speakers, and you could see them. They're mounted, pointed in every direction. And they go up to five miles. So you're not going to drown him out. You're not drowning him out. And he said, if they bomb them, I'll buy some more. That's funny. Because we were in New York at a pro-life rally that was right in the middle of Times Square.

And we've all been in Times Square. You know how crazy that is, the gyrating screens. Yeah, that's the word that came to mind. Yeah, dad said, everywhere I look is gyrating giant humans. And so we were in the middle of that thing. Same thing, Jay's about, I'd say there were 20,000 pro-life, largest pro-life rally ever in the state of New York. And I was a part of it.

And there was probably about a thousand protesters kind of off to the side. Because it's just right in the middle. I mean, it's just a mecca of activity. But I noticed the people of Fogos are pretty smart because they had brought drums, the protesters, they had drums. and musical things. They were going to drown out the message, kind of what Jason is describing.

But they brought in some major, major sound. And so like the whole thing was going on. There was worship and people were speaking. And you could just way off. You heard a boom, boom, boom. Just like a little small noise off in the distance, you know. But get bigger speakers. I mean, that's exactly.

Sometimes I was so inspired when I cut him a big. big check on the spot. Because I said, I'll support that. I mean, this guy's risking his life every day. Oh, I'm telling you. And he said, I said, how many members do you have here? And he said, about 300, but they come, you know, we, we don't, we never do anything at the same time.

But, you know, they rotate the schedule that because they don't want to get them all hemmed up in a place. You don't get complacent. Well, they don't want to get bombed while they're all together at one time. So, and he said, everyone's real poor at our church. And he said, it's not what you think. He said, because they've been blackballed from this community. You can't get a job because they believe in Jesus.

So not only are they going to persecute you, if you follow Jesus in that country, in that region in Bethlehem, modern-day Bethlehem, nobody's going to hire you. So they just try to get every part. You're talking about persecution. You're like them every morning. Somebody's trying to kill you, and they don't want to give you any money.

But he just, he said, you know, I feel like this is my place. I was like, well, you're at the cutting edge of spiritual warfare here. And when I got back, it made me feel a lot more bold because around here, somebody may insult you. That's about as far as it goes, you know. This one is, I mean, social media insults, really? I mean, when you think about it in terms of persecution, that's what we'll say with something, but they're speaking bad about me compared to that guy.

I pay no matter of that. I mean, that's just flowing off. I pay no attention to it. No, you can't. You know what? I'm going to say this. You know, we've read, I mean, we've kind of referenced Luke 1, Luke 2, and Luke 3. And you see all these miracles that happen, you know, barren women, having children,

virgin woman, having, you know, Jesus. But in all those situations, it became about Jesus who he was, then how it all happened. And I think that's an important point. It's like even with that guy in Bethlehem, a lot of things that have happened to him seems borderline miraculous. He don't talk about that. I mean, I found out later he'd been shot five times and had been...

He didn't tell you that. He didn't tell me that. He got up there and said, I want to introduce someone to you. And he knew we were kind of a church group. Most of us were church people. But he acted like we had never been introduced to Jesus. And I think that's the same concept. It's like that one little phrase that I read in Luke 1 when it said,

well, nothing's impossible for you. because you have the miracle worker. This is the creative, it's not just a good fellow. It's not just someone's going to help you out. He's a miracle worker. That's not a problem. And so that's why I think you can justify all these guys living,

living and then dying violent deaths because really, it's not really a problem. You know, and it wasn't a problem for the Bethlehem preacher. It's like we talked about last time, Peter, who we used for our example, He went from a guy that was just focused on what he thought he should get to a guy who just would do anything for Christ.

And that's what you saw at the end of his life, which is powerful. So obviously the reason we've been talking about this is we're in the Christmas season, as they say. But it's important to remember what's most important about what we're talking about. And the birth of Jesus, really it's fascinating, as we talked about today. But it's really only fascinating that it leads to the life of Jesus, the death of Jesus, and the rest of Jesus. resurrection of Jesus and obviously everything that goes along with that. So next time we'll flesh that out a little bit more and kind of get into why he came. And also more importantly, I think for us, as easy coming back because that's what we're all looking forward to. So

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