Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 384 | How Missy Insults People Without Even Trying & Why Some Christians Are Like Lizards

Episode Date: November 21, 2021

Phil talks about the transfiguration of Jesus. Al dives into Jesus’ power over time and space. Jase tells us why he disagrees with the movie “Eternals” and describes Missy's habit of subtly insulting people with words of affirmation. Phil and Jase discuss the short professional lives of famous athletes. Jase thinks he’ll end up selling toenail clippers on TV one day. And Al shares the story of throwing a shotgun shell at Jase and hitting him on the top of the head. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So I got a text. So you know, we had Bob DeMawson. Were you here when we had Bob? I don't know. I can't remember. I think you may have been gone that day. So Bob, big Bob. Tell me about him. Bob is, he worked with Dad and I. He was a collaborator on our Duck Commander, Faith and Family Bible. Oh. And he's, you know, he's a ghost writer. So he does, you know, he, he was. was the one that kind of wrote it, but dad and I met with him and kind of worked through the whole

process. So dad, so he works now for focus on the family. So he invited mom and dad out to this big swanky thing that they're doing out in California. And it's so funny because in Bob's mind, he was like, I mean, he was, he was like, you know, you got, you know, five-star accommodations, this Laguna Beach, California, it's beautiful. And so he's laying all this to dad. And dad's just looking at, you know, cigar store in him, looking. Bob's selling him. making his pitch. And I'm just sitting there grinning because I just thought, everything you're laying out for dad that you think is a great selling boy, he doesn't like any of it. Like you got to go to California. You got to,

you know, you got to be in this resort, you know, all this stuff. And so mom's like, oh, ooh, yeah. Oh, that sounds so much fun. And I'm looking, you know, I'm looking at that. So finally he's like he's trying to sell dad and he said, look, Phil, there's water here. They may be hunting going on. You know, he throws that in there. And that's looking at it. And I said, yeah, there's a lot of hunting on Laguna Beach, California. I must admit, I have in my 75 years to give you boys something to look forward to,

which is coming up shortly. It'll come up on you before you know it. I've pretty well gone through and am past the point of a fun. event come here it'd be a lot of fun that's borderline depressing no I'm not depressed

I'm just saying well I was just I mean 75 and there's no but I was listening to it and I understood because like it would appeal to me like Lisa and I would love a trip like that but I was thinking that there's nothing you're saying that dad's gonna say

yeah we might have to do that so dad said so he didn't say anything for a while and he's like what do you think Phil and dad was like yeah Bob that looks interesting. Yeah, yeah.

He went into the whistle. He went into the whistle. So I thought Bob got it. So yesterday, Bob texted me. He said, hey, have your mom and dad say anything about the trip? I said, it's a hard no, Bob. You miss. Fun to me is when the pump water gets out over the grass,

as I checked this morning, you check your pump. It's rocking and rolling. And you drive down to see how far the water has come up in the woods and you look out there when you come around a little curve in the thicket you look down there and there's two woodies sitting there what was on dry ground yesterday but there was water there this morning pumped overnight so that 3,000 gallons a minute took about two and a half 24 hour cycles two and a half which is not bad

within three days water was there and I noticed there were ducks there back. I said, to me, that's a barrel of fun. So I don't need a must to make me grin these days. I don't need must make me. Five-star hotels ain't doing it for you. No, but you put a little water. Little thing. Big cities hanging out. Because you say, what they do? They're just hanging out. Right. That's what I'm saying. Even if dad somehow by some miracle, it would be a miracle. If you got him there, he wouldn't want to leave the room. I mean, it's just they don't understand you. People, They think things appeal to you that appeal to other people. I love all the people who would arrive maybe and they won't pictures taking and all that.

But if they just stop for a minute and say to stand there for hours at this part of it and that part of it. And you don't want to be rude. You want to be rude. They don't be rude. But the camera and it's a lot of pictures being taken. Okay, I love them. But a steady dose of that is overrated. flying in an airplane,

bumpy going to where you're going. I mean, I'm like... And you got to wear a mask for about eight hours, by the way. Here, I've got these wigsks. I've got a mask on, you know, standing there. I would love to see him with a mask with that beer.

That'd be funny. Yeah, it's just, I mean, what... I've never got into the mask phase of all the... I said, there's microbes. He said, the mask's not doing good. It's microbes. I said, they're small.

real small. I said, you know, it's like a filter on your air conditioner. It catches dust. Okay. It catches a lot of stuff. Catch a lot of dust. But that's pretty well. That's pretty well.

But a lot of stuff, it just finally blocks in that filter, but it's not stopping it. See, the difference is most people change their filter out from time to time. But you're not changing that because it's just been there a while. So your filter is just getting more stuff. No, I'm talking about your beard. Oh, yeah. That filter. But you're right.

The problem is with the mask, like some, I know people, first of all, the cloth mask don't even work. I mean, they pretty much said that. I mean, unless you got one certain type of mask, you're not keeping stuff in and out anyway. But the thing is, I've seen people that have the same one hanging in the truck where they've been using the same mask for two years. I mean, give me a break. Come on, man. I mean, that's like your surgeon, you know, you just coming in to operate. I've been wearing this mask.

for the last three years, but we're all good to go. Well, look, I, when we were, microscopic microbes and then the bass, you're just shutting them down. When we were, you couldn't breathe. That's right. When we were in Greece, I was readjusting my mask and the wind was blowing.

It blew out of my hand and the ground, which was just dirt. And there's people that are hollowed. Thousands of years of people that are just peed. Your mask is rolling like a lot leave from under an ocean. Yeah, that's what happened. So I went to pick it up, my thought, no, because I'm not going to wear that.

So the first place we try to go into, they're like, you need a mask. And I said, it's in the encampment down there. It hit the ground, but we had a language barrier and no entree. And I was like, no, I'm not trying to order. They were like, you can't get in here without that. I was like, but it was dirty. It wasn't competing. It was defeating the purpose to where I dropped it.

I had one. So I waited. In India, the disease, the diseases that come through their culture, and it just rapidly spread, they don't have like enough water. They'll big tanker trucks pull up with full of water. Everybody's got five gallon cans and bun. And they're catching the water and it's falling out on the road and you know, they're hooking it up.

I mean, they said it's just disease. It's just ravaging them. And plus you got every river, you know, people living on it. So you have waste going into it. Oh, yeah. It's a bad situation. I mean, the whole landscape where all that's going on is just, just working alive with all kinds of microbes. I mean, it's just, they're spreading disease at a rapid rate of speed.

Something hits through there. It's usually pretty bad. news bear when it happened. Well, that's, I mean, a lot of what we're going to get into, Matthew 18, you have all these situations arise or circumstances change or happen. And Jesus is addressing them as a general thought, but that's the problem in our society and the rulers of this age. There's no exceptions to the rules or no practical understanding.

I mean, what about that? Oh. Do you have to put a dirty mask on? Yeah, right. Well, of course not. Oh, yeah. You're not getting in here. If you had a dirty mask on with just mud dripping down and germs all over,

they say, you can come in. And spread whatever. Yeah, isn't this defeating the purpose? You know, when Matthew is writing about the, I don't know whether the original language, you know, when Jesus was transfigured. You know, I don't know whether it was, whether that's a biblical word, the transfiguration.

But when he's standing there and here comes two guys out of the past, you know, figure out how far he was from the end of Moses and Elijah, and they're standing there with him, you would think, because the disciples tried to make a little fanfare out of it, But Jesus himself, along with Moses and Elijah, I would add them to it. They were just doing it in a very matter-of-fact way. They just appeared. And it wasn't like, hey, y'all check this out.

Right. I mean, there was no, there was no, hey, look at this. And even Matthew just recorded it as it happened. And you would think there would have been a little more jumping up and down about the whole thing. but other than, well, let me build some shelter here. But it's one of the strangest things in the Bible I've ever read. They were professional transfigures. Yeah.

I think the word. But Al had it. He said he's showing you he was the author or the whatever of time itself. He had power over time and space. Yeah. Because here's two people that everybody assumed were dead. Yeah. And had gone back into the ground, but they weren't.

They were there. You know, I guess. But the Lodja took off, well, he was levitating in the chariot. Right. He just disappeared. Yeah, let me just read this for y'all. Speaking of the transfiguration, I meant to get this end of the day. Lord, you've been Psalms 90.

You've been our dwelling place throughout all generations. You, God, have been our dwelling place throughout all generations. throughout all generations. Now just think about the time factor. Before the mountains were born, or you brought forth the earth and the world from everlasting to everlasting, you're God.

You turn men to dust, saying, return to dust, old sons of men. Dust time for a thousand years in your sight or like a day that is just gone by. I mean, just think of the concept of what the psalmist is saying, and you're like, for a thousand years in your sight, or like a day that's just gone by a 24-hour period, you're like, it's no more than a day to you.

You're not worried about that at all. You're way beyond that. Or like a watch in the night. You sweep men away in sleep of death. They're like the new grass all the morning, though in the morning it springs up new. Here you got. We got a baby coming out of the womb. By evening, it's dry and withered.

We're consumed by your anger and terrified by your indignation. You've set our iniquities before you, our secret sins in the light of your presence. All our days pass away under your wrath. We finish our years with a moan. The length of our days is 70 years, or 80, if you have the strength. Yet their span is but trouble and sorrow. Life itself, he's not painting a pretty picture, for they quickly pass and we fly away. Who knows the power of your anger, for your wrath is as great at the fear that is due you.

teach us to number our days a right that we may gain a heart of wisdom. Pretty amazing. You read some of these old writing, you're like a day comes by and we think, boy, you know, seem like his day's never going to end. Boy, it's been a long day when you get to looking at it out. Do you God. Did you notice who wrote? A thousand years is doodily squat.

Did you notice who wrote that zone? Yeah. Moses. Yeah. So, I mean, what's ironic about that is he made that description. He had it. He understood it. And here he showed up almost 2,000 years later.

That's correct. With Jesus, which according to his timing would have been just, you know, 36 hours. That's right. That's why John the Baptist and John 1 when he said, I testify, you know, the one who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Mind-bender.

What does that mean? Oh, that means time is dooddy squat to him. I don't know if that's exactly what I mean. I think that's the exact translation. Time is doodly squat. But you said on the biblical word of that transfigured there in 172, you know, it means it's where we get the word metamorphosis. Yeah.

So that the change, I was looking at the earthly, worldly definition. Transfigured. And they're basically like to change in outward form or appearance to transform, usually for the better. Yeah. Something more beautiful or elevated. Yeah. Because they don't know.

No. It's beyond comprehensive. What do you do, Phil? You're up there. You're now this spiritual being with a body. People know who you are. I mean, it's going to be hard to relate that to just mere mortals. Let's take a break.

What was interesting to me, Jays, is that Peter, James, and John, like, I mean, Moses lived way before. How did they even, do they have name tags? I mean, how would you know? How would you know who it was? I kind of figured out with the conversation. I guess so. I guess so. Of course, Peter was so dumbfounded.

I mean, bless him. he's so dumb at it. He's like, it's good that we're here today. Like, he went into, like, he was kicking off of Sunday service. Yeah. It's good we're here today. And I'm going to build a shelter for all three of you guys. And then Jay's made the point last week.

And you know it's, but you know you're like talking gibberish when God interrupts you. Yeah. While he was still speaking, the Lord said. You talk too much when God had. I mean, when you're talking too much, you need to just be quiet. Embarrassing is that. I get on my wife all the time for saying bless him. Because I said, you're fixed to call someone an idiot.

And she's like, do what? That's right. Like, whatever you're fixed to say is not pleasant. That's right. Bless him. And then rip it. Bless him and then rip it. It's a rip.

I'm like, don't use spiritual words to rip someone in an idiotic fashion. Yeah. But she said, I'm trying to put a positive spin on it. needs the blessing of God, or he wouldn't have done. I thought that's just a southern idiom when somebody's an idiot. You just say that to bless him. That way you can say anything you want. Well, that's true.

About him, good or bad. Yeah. Or her. Yeah. I've heard that bless their heart. Yeah. That means they're a terrible person. Oh, yeah.

Rips and you're ripping them. You idiot. You can say anything you want to. But Peter earns all of his, you know. I don't know whether I would have. been at ease for an explanation if I had been standing there like Peter did. Oh, we'd have been just like that. I would have been like, what in the world?

But you notice whenever, whenever God spoke, and then I'm assuming like they illuminated, because it talked about how bright everybody was, then they were terrified and hit the ground, which was probably should have been the first. I'm sure you felt they felt some heat. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, you're watching this happen. What would you be thinking?

You talk about these Marvel movies, Jay. and Eternals and all that. This was, this is for real. Probably would have thought, don't make him mad. Did I tell you, yeah, I told you all last time my friends

went and saw that movie Eternals and I said, I got one question. Could they die? They kind of looked around and said, yep, they could die. The whole thing's built on a life.

Not eternal. Not eternal. Not eternal. Why name it eternal? It just burns me up that we fall for. for it every time do you know what also i noticed yesterday i learned one of my buddies in in arkansas killed this huge deer same thing didn't even look like a deer oh you saw that's all the picture yeah

so i see the deer and i was playing cards and i couldn't help it i had to i had to share it but it reminded me that every time where jesus said don't tell anybody about this because he said because my buddy he was like don't tell anybody about this i was like i can't help it's too awesome the deer so my friends were like, send me a picture of that deer. I was like, I can't do it. Because we, he told me not to. He's like, well, why did you show it to him? Because I couldn't help it.

It was awesome. And you're, you're so overwhelmed by it. You want to see it. It wants to spread. And it would have. If I send that, it'll be on social media. That's right. It'll go viral. Because most people want to

have a picture of this deer. because I guarantee you it's probably close to a state record. I don't know the state record. It does not look real. It doesn't. But most people want that. But this guy who shot it, you know him. Oh, yeah.

Man of God, humble. He doesn't want the attention. Nor does he care about being plastered all over the... He just sent it to close friends. He says close friends. And just said, don't tell anybody because he don't want people hanging around trying to shoot his deer, which is probably what happened. Be careful.

Fame has a hook in it. Yeah. It was just like you, dad, all those years you killed all the bands. They were like, yeah, we send it in so we can know exactly where you're killing these ducks. And you were like, nah. Well, right, that's how they buy land. That's right. If you keep sending bands saying, give me my certificate, you look up and you don't own the land anymore.

The government comes in and says, we've got some prime real estate here. They're killing all our bands. I saw it multiple times, multiple times. Well, where a lot of those were killed is now government. land you know shocker of shockers but it really may be think about when Jesus kept saying that don't tell anybody about that don't tell anybody about that because it just wasn't time but they can't help it how can you not describe what happened here i mean as soon as you come down from the mountain what you know and peter saw his wife he's like let me tell you just what happened right

and she's probably not believing it because how can you believe so i mean we're talking about things happening that we can't even describe that's right so After the events that started with the Transfiguration, which we talked about, then there was the healing of the demon-possessed boy who, I think the highlight of that miracle Jesus did was that the disciples couldn't do it. Because that seems to be the theme here. Remember, they had tried to cast him out, and they couldn't. And they were like, why are the lack of power?

And Jesus said, well, you're not having a faith. And that's when he told him, he said, if you just had the faith of a mustard seed, you could move a mountain. the idea was you didn't really believe you could do it was his point to him so i think all that's this whole thing is generating right because a lot of churches now they take that to mean the reason you can't do something supernatural because you don't have enough faith and you know i think they missed the point because when he got into that there was one he said this one could only be driven out by prayer yeah

okay that's right i mean it's getting into a world as mortal beings that we're we're just not we don't understand that's right and which is why we need god's power it's more about him working working in us and through us so what i'm saying my point is you can go around and try to tell people to have more faith have more faith but jesus can do that but we don't know people's That's right. And so we tend to point people to the one who can supply that power. You get to know him on a daily basis, not just once a week. And all of a sudden you look up and understanding comes wisdom and good things.

Yeah, that's right. And then you have the temple tax, which I think the point of that was to convince them. Because remember he asked, was it Peter? Yeah, Peter, he comes in after he kind of said, yeah, he pays his taxes. And Jesus makes the point that when you're a son, you're exempt from having to do this legalistic temple stuff. And so I think that was the whole point of that.

You know, of course, we talked about, you know, catching the fish with the coins. But what he was trying to tell him is, you got to understand, all the things you thought were important, the temple, the sacrifices, the rituals, all that. It's not going to matter. And he had just told him what he was going to do. But see, they're still, he's still trying to get him to. put two and two together. You know, the idea is you're a son now.

You're not, you're viewing this as you're just a parishioner. Yeah. And to your point, Jay's, I think a lot of people get stuck there. They see themselves. They're still doing it today. Yeah, they see themselves as a church member as opposed to being a son of the almighty God. And so everything revolves around what happens at a location someplace.

You're like, wait a minute, it's way bigger than that. Nothing wrong with that, but it's this way bigger than that. So I think it's that same concept that he's trying to get to. You're a son of God in church building, and you have a relationship with your father. But when you leave and throughout the world, you're still a son of God you should act like. Right. But a lot of times, you know, I act one way in church, and it's like a lizard that changes this color based on its surroundings. I mean, that tends to be the more normal way that people operate.

That's why I think it thought the conversation we had yesterday would. Tony was so good, Tony Perkins, because he's got an organization he works with is trying to impact real life day-to-day culture, stuff that's happening, court decisions, all that. We're doing what we're doing, you know, putting it out there four days a week. But all of us are a part of churches, but it's like we're saying it's bigger than just one place, one location, one town, which is kind of the whole point. Let's take another break. Which then takes us up to chapter 18, which James, before.

we came on, you were saying it seems a bit random. It's kind of three different things he tells them. I look at it like there's two questions and then sort of an implied question in chapter 18, but it's kind of his speech that kind of wraps up this idea with the disciples, because when he shifts into chapter 19, we're going to get into something different. It proves when the apostle Paul was saying, once I was alive apart from law, when the commandment came, seeing, springing the life. Roman seven. And what intended to help me actually brought death.

The thing was that he said, nothing wrong with the, he goes on to say nothing wrong with the commands. Yeah. But there's a lot wrong with human race. But if you look at what Jesus said, he really took it to heart and made it plain multiple, multiple times being like little children.

Yeah. He's saying they're innocence. That's what you need to. Yeah, that's it. You need to be like that because their innocence protects them. Well, you mentioned Roman 7. It took me back to the garden. You remember the first thing was knowing good and evil.

Yep. So the very first sin committed was the idea I want to know, not just good. I want to know. And the innocent, the little children, they're not old enough to know. Right. And there's a gigantic protection built around them. That's right. The innocent.

Because you think about Adam and Eve were like little children until they ate that fruit. I mean, like God said, don't do one thing. And when they said, oh, we're going to do it because, you know, now you're trying to watch a ball game and pretty well front and center is somebody, some woman's shaking her boobs or a booty. So you got boobs and booties throughout, they have a formula. Throughout watching the ball game, I'm trying to watch football. game. They're like, they do the same thing.

Yeah. Scores the touchdown. They cut to the cheerleaders. It's that instant. And it's a lot of gyration, too. Oh, my goodness. And I'm thinking, you know, why don't they at least for, you know,

a ball game, just stick with the ball game. People having for a player running. But they've always got the boobs and the booties. They're professional gyrating. Give me a break. Trying to make a living here. And some people are like, that's why I watch football. Boy, you're asking for a lot.

What are you trying to say? I said, I'm just trying to say for a 40 couple of hours, just, why don't you just, all the gyrations and all, why just keep on with it? Because it's just a TV formula to get along. Because little children, they don't even notice it. Well, of course not, because they don't have the car. It was funny.

It was funny you say that. They don't see the depth. and the power behind that kind of behavior. You're right. Which is nice. It's nice that they don't get well. To your point, though, so kids like middle school, they'll have the cheer squad, but they're not immoral.

That's right. And they go out and they do the, maybe some of them. But they do the flips, and it's more about the gymnastics, and they got their little team. So that's innocent. But then once you get to this adult thing where everybody's just the least amount of clothing. I mentioned another day. I said, you remember when you were like a little child? I said, all of you remember those days. I said, but when you hit that junior high, high school, it doesn't give an age, but at some point, you know, you know, you know something now that wasn't there

before. Right. And, you know, you talked about a little girl on the school bus. And, you know, for the first time, you're like, whoa. Yeah, that was mean. Something, yeah, and something kicks in there and you're like, what in the world? Your conscience is developing and right and wrong becomes a front and center. That's right. Attitude. You know what I'm saying? I had been in the eighth grade and then I was shifting to the ninth grade and the minute the girl walks on the bus, something changed. I mentioned that to the audience other day before we baptized a lot of people, but I noticed all of them. I was making that point on behalf of the ones who were visiting.

I said, you've come here to be born again, right? Yeah. I said, well, just remember these things. And one of the things I mentioned was that. I said, you remember when you hit by junior high, high school going into teenage years? I said, when it all started and the downward spiral came up on you, right? I said, or am I the only one that ran into this? And they all said in the affirmative, no doubt about it.

Yeah. At one time, we were innocent, but we're not now. So Lisa, whenever we speak, Lisa tells a story about she was chasing me. She was in a sixth grade. I was in the eighth grade and I never noticed her, you know, a little gawky sixth grader. She said, but then I saw her at McDonald's, which was our big hangout when I was in high school. And this time I'm a senior. She's a sophomore.

I stoke my head in the window of her car and I went, whoa. And then she tells the audience, you know what that means in Redneck? You filled out. Yep. Which is what it means. Yep. You know? And so that's what happens.

There was a change there. in my case, not for the better. The trouble is beginning. That's right. But it's that idea. It followed me until I was 28 years old. Some, I noticed that we baptized the other day. Some of them had reached into their 40s and 50s.

They just said, we just never took it to heart until now. We heard you guys, and we said, you know what? It's time for me to get in on that action. And they just keep coming. Yeah, there was a guy there, Sunday. It's a beautiful thing. He was late 60s, I think, in. he was baptized this past Sunday day before, and he listens to the podcast, and he's from

Illinois. And he said, you know, he said, I've lived my whole life not understanding, but now I get it. Yep. I get the importance of it. I said, well, look, dude, no matter when you get in on this, the beauty is, now you get the rest of the way. You got it. You got it.

So you start growing, and you go from there. But you're right, you go back under a childlike mentality of trust, of not wanting to know evil. I mean, we avoid evil at all costs. Yeah. Missing I was talking about last night. You know, we just had our Mia Moo fun day, which it's fun.

But this year, we put Mia more in charge of what we were going to do because we were like, only she knows truly what all these kids are going through. and she's been doing so much better because when she got to her teenage years just like everybody else you have to find your relationship with God and your identity and obviously it's like let her do it and y'all stay out of whatever she I said even if it's she fails

yeah let her do it's hers done because I think it'll be good for her well it was way better than anything we've ever done before and everybody agrees even miss it because with her it was real. It was real and there was something about, you know, because we're talking about the main thing. We're talking about kids here about being innocent.

And I realize she's a teenager now, but she is a kid in like all these other, most of these other kids are younger than 12 or 13 that were there. But what I was going to say is they have a, they're more open-minded. They have a better imagination. They're more trusting. There's a lot of qualities about,

kids that came out in this weekend. It wasn't just a day. It was a weekend. That you're just like, yeah, we needed somebody young who had gone through this, doing this to capture the magic of a child. Yep. Yep. Yep. Which, and you're right, that applies exactly what this is telling me. Let's take another break. That's exactly what he's saying here. Because remember, this whole thing about becoming like a little child was couched in the question of who is the greatest in the kingdom. And there's, you know, I don't want to imply too much, but there's sort of an implication to me that when the disciples asked Jesus that question, it was like out of us. I mean, because, you know, we know they've had this ongoing thing. Oh, I agree. I think that is the issue, because that's what people do. Remember James and

John? Remember their mom came to Jesus? Muhammad Ali wasn't inventing, you know, I'm degraded. That's been he would just set it but everybody else that's what they think and that's what drives people and even like when you're talking about the cheerleaders as adult cheerleaders if you got into that little world it's all about spending money to make yourself look better and compete against the woman standing next they they care less about they're in their own world about that and then tvs using that to get people to watch yeah and they get gained five pounds guess what cut see you should a ate us out the lure the lure of it all but then they look up and they're older and what happens they're that's because it's so fleeting that you

pursued something that was never going to bring you contentment and joy because that's a fading pad i mean there's there's young people coming up you know it's funny jac i was talking about that with a lot of mystery when you mentioned that about mohammad ali so in the old days, and not too old, I mean, in my days, that when someone on a playing sports did something terrible, cost him a game, he was a goat. He's the goat because he blew it. I don't know why we picked on goats, but now that has totally flipped the modern era, a goat is the greatest of all time. It's the G-O-A-T. I mean, they talk about Tom Brady being the goat, you know, he's the greatest of all time. So that's a word that's changed in my lifetime.

You know, Bill Buckner was the goat of the 86 World Series because he let the ball go through his legs and it caused the red size of the World Series. I still can see that. Yeah, me too. All right, Tom Brady. It was just right there. No doubt.

All that would be is a quarter inch lower. World Series. You know, Redsides. But think about it, Tom Brady, no doubt. Greatest quarterback fall time. That's Super Bowl. He's throwing a pig skin touchdowns. But in the grand scheme of things,

what exactly does that get you? Well, he's got a lot of money. He's got a good-looking, He's supermodel Y. Okay. Well, for some people, that's enough. If that's all there is to it, it's not much. Well, I'm saying, they're like, boy, I would just like to have that.

Yep, you'll have it a few years, and then guess what? It's over. That's right. So you look up one day, and Tom can remember back when he was in his 40s, which was a pretty good move, he's still going. Yeah. But he turned about my age, 705 or 80. I mean, you can sit around.

In the reality of it all. Well, how happened. He'll have the, he'll have the, he'll have the, he'll have the, he'll have. He'll have the yellow jacket on, and he'll be sitting with the other guys in the yellow jackets talking about back in the day, what they used to do. So my point was, though,

if you go to a group of kids, that energy, that optimism, that trust, the innocence, that's why he said that's the greatest. Because you can have the greatest life here imaginable. You can win Super Bowl after Super.

There's going to come a time where you're going to have to deal with it, it's over. That ship has sailed. And you're just not going to be as happy to be around as you once were. You know what's interesting to me, Jay says I read stories. I just read one recently. There's some guy.

I can't remember who he was or who he even played for. But he was on a Super Bowl. He won a Super Bowl. He was like a defensive back or something. And now he had gone back to school and he'd gotten his master's. And so maybe he was a doctor. And he was a principal at some school. some little town somewhere.

And I just thought about it. You know, it's like he's just like he's got his little life there on his deal. And I mean, I'm sure he talks about, hey, you remember when you were in the Super Bowl, like in, you know, 19, whatever. But he's just a principal to school, you know, just everyday kids dealing with. I mean, like, all the glory is just down to just live. It passes much quicker than we would like for. And the end comes more quickly than we realize.

And it's now what? Yeah. Well, it's like I saw Joe Namath the other day doing some commercial for something, you know. Oh, the old people commercial. Yeah, the old people. Look, nothing. Hey, go for it, Joe. I'm sure they, you know.

And I, one day I may be doing a commercial for, you know, toenail clippers. But which would be perfectly fine. Yeah. But it kind of hits you in that moment. Because the same commercial, they had the guy who was, when he was a kid, was on that show Good Times. And he was like, oh, JJ. I know my. And look, and they had him in the commercial. Guess what? He's still doing the dynamite. That's right. He's 70. He's dynamite. Yeah, it didn't quite have the punch from when he was a little teenager doing it on the show. I noticed the same thing.

Yeah, I used to love to hear him say that. Yeah. I did too. Good time. You know who else was? I noticed you hadn't probably seen it yet. I just noticed it yesterday. Captain Kirk is doing the same commercial that William Shad. Oh, yeah. I saw it. Now he's 92. Who? Well, he just got back from... He went to space. Yeah. Yeah. Which was kind of crazy with the Star Trek, and he's really...

I mean, he's 90. Dude. And he's like, I'm really doing it. He took the ride. Yeah. We're literally boldly going where, well, somebody went last week, but we're doing it. Yeah, they were in about a 20-by-20-foot cubicle, you know. Hey, you know, Captain Kirk, yeah.

You're like... Every time I bring up, Captain Kirk, I think about film, too. teaching that cloud. That's right. And his young kid, you know, all his lights weren't flickering. He raised his head and he's like,

are you saying Star Trek's not real? Because you were made some analogy. Yeah. And you said, it's a TV show. He said, no, that's happening. I was in the class. They're up there.

They're up there. Oh, look. And Phil was like playing along because he thought he was kidding. He was like, Yeah, there are Balkans and going. He's like, yeah, yeah, they're up there. I thought to myself, they got him. Dad was the last miles that day where dreams come to die.

I will crush your dreams to start. Yeah, at the end, he just said, hey, it's not happening. It's not real. They've tricked you. It's really just William Shatner, isn't it? But to say what we're saying, kids have a tendency. of trusting what they see and it was an innocent

mistake. He literally thought that was going on and TV somehow was just capturing what happened. He thought it was all real. To circle back on the reality, let's take our last break. When Shatner went up,

there were four people in the pod that went up a couple of months ago. One of those guys, 49 years old, kind of a daredevil type guy. I read a little bit about him. He died in a plane crash two or three days ago, a little small plane in New Jersey. And I just thought when I heard it, I thought, man, I mean, like, you know, he was just in space. This guy's done all these amazing things, but all it took was a plane that

didn't function properly in New Jersey, and it's over. And he was 49. And I just thought, that's really it in a nutshell, right? I mean, you're guaranteed nothing. I just wonder when the plane was going toward the earth and he knew. I mean, you hope he's a believer, you know? Yep. Yeah. That's what you hope. You hope. But I just thought it was ironic that he had just been in space. You hope he had hope.

He had been in space two months earlier, you know, which is crazy. Yeah. So what I was just going to say about this. I mean, I think the point of Matthew 18 was, I mean, for us as individuals to be really careful about how we influence younger people. Yeah. I mean, because, yes, he's making this point that we're making, but he goes into all these things that causes people to sin,

and even kids, and he has that graphic illustration we talked about before. And then he gets to 10 where he talks about him knowing everything that's going on, and this is where we get the idea about the Guardian Angels, which I told you, I went on record. I believe kids have representatives, kind of like we do. have Jesus mediating for our lives representing us. I mean, I don't know how else you can, I've read the commentaries,

and they just don't know. But when he says, for I tell you that they're angels, this is 1810, their T-H-E-I-R in heaven, always see the face of my father in heaven. So then I think this next verse, which goes into,

what we believe or called the, you know, the prodigal son, that section in Luke 15. Right. He told the story about the 99 and the one sheep. Well, he just tells a little bit of that here, and maybe Matthew barred this line. But I think within this context of talking about becoming children and having represented as in heaven and the spiritual world, he then makes every person feel important. Which is when you look at the political culture of today and everybody saying, oh, we're looking for equality

and justice for all. And there's something beautiful about what Jesus did here that I think is more powerful than any political movement you can see. But he says, what do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the 99 on the hills and go look for the one that wandered off? And if he finds it, I tell you the truth, he is happier about that one sheet than about the 99 that did not wander off.

Which doesn't mean he doesn't care about the 99. He said, but he's thrilled that he found the one. You know, Jay's, I think your point is spot on. that shows how God feels about everybody he creates. Because if you say you had 10 kids, there's a lot of people out there that do, I mean, one,

you'd say, well, you got 10 kids, you know, something happened to one of them. You still got nine left. But none of us would think that one. It would never happen.

And all the little children in the wombs in the same way your father in heaven is not willing that any of these little ones should perish. That's right. That includes you in the womb. I mean, give me a break.

That's everybody. That's a child. Yeah, it's a child in the world. That's how I said when it comes to causing people to sit, and look, you think what is the number one, if you take Jesus out in the spiritual realm out, what is the number one change that changer, I get change agent of people's lives

where they become better people? And when you think about that, it's when they have kids. You know, some of the worst people I know went to school with. And when they had their first kid, all of a sudden, they're like, well, you know, I got to straighten up. Then they're looking for somebody like me or whatever to have,

let's have a talk. Because now they feel like I need to get this right for this kid. And I really think that's why God set this up the way he did. Because even if you're not a believer, there's something that happens there to most people, unless you're just so high or so warped. You're going. Well, you remember Mack Owen's story.

Mack, when he did his testimony, you know, He was on like speed, you know, and Mac was just a, he had a double life going, you know. And so he was getting further away from wanting to play the game of going to church and all that. So he started more and more just like doing what he wanted to do. And he was in the bed and there. He was acting like he was asleep because he didn't want to go to church. It was a Sunday morning. And Mary tried to get him up.

He's like, you don't feel good. I've been working hard and, you know, leave me alone, you know, all this. And Callie, who at the time, his daughter, youngest, I was four years old. she came in there and she put her fist on her hips and she told her mom and she said if daddy's not going to church then neither am i and mac said her words for the first time above all others just penetrated him straight to the heart and he thought what am i doing and that started his then road to recover as he calls it and and totally turned him around but to your point jays it was a four-year-old daughter that just said well you know if he ain't going on ankle

going. But he said that he said in that he said so they all left and went to church he said I went and gathered up all my drug paraphernalia and I burned it all in the trash barrel and then that night he came to whitesbury road and he came forward and from that point on the man has been I mean rock and roll for Jesus. Well that's why God mirrors family in that Luke 15 he got to that family setting on the third story which is why I think here you see the same thing with the children and the father when you think about it in that context, which then leads to these stories that say, well, if your brother sins against you,

because we know, you just think about it, you're going to mess up in front of your children. Right. I mean, you're going to do it. Right. I think the best thing I learned being a parent is when it hit me one day

that I need to stop having all the answers because I had a lot of them for them and probably a lot of things, advice I gave them, were good. But I realized one day I also got to acknowledge when I mess up. Right. Because I have. And that was a big moment when I would tell each my kids,

like, look, you're going to have to grow up and be the best God wants you to be in spite of some of the things I've done. Well, which we'll talk. We're almost that at times. We'll talk about more next time, Jay's. But I made the point you just made that I think Jesus was the logical reason he goes into this next section is that if you're going to be like, a little kid. If you're going to try to be in us, it's to be like a little kid. Then you're going to have some wrong in each other. And I use the illustration Sunday, my sermon and my grandkids. I mean, they start out there playing. Everything's great. Well,

within five minutes, somebody's coming in. Somebody took something. It's my turn on the iPad. She hit me. He slapped me. He did this. And I'm just like, get out of here. Get back in there. Get along. That's where I was going with this. You know, little kids. And look, five minutes later, they're all back on. They're all happy again. And we're They have so many great qualities, but every once in a while, you know, you're there and a golf ball comes whizzing by your head. Way too many RPM. And you're like, what just happened here? Remember that time I lob that.

Danger has entered the room. Remember that time I lob that shotgun shell, Jay's across the room? Jason is laying over that. I thought, I wonder if I could just get him right in the crown of the head. I mean, he was halfway across the room. it was a full shotgun shell that's heavy and so and this was lead back in the day i just lobbed that thing and it got him right in the top of the head and he's rolling around you know yeah i mean oh i remember like i came that gave me the head pop i came into my room when jep was like four or five

so i i don't know how that would make me what 14 or 15 he's four or five well i come in and it's him and another four or five-year-old, but a girl, we're having a get-together at the house, and they have no clothes on and are, you know, emulating what happened. Playing a little doctor. Yeah, and I said, hey, what are you doing? He said, we're playing doctor.

I said, well, okay, I'm going to play daddy. I want to wrap pocket because I was like, I don't know what's happening here. I'm the daddy of doctor. I'm the dad in this. That was my first spanking given to my brother because I thought, and they were innocent. Right. But to me, I was like, okay, no, let's nip this.

Yeah. I never heard that story, Jeff. I'm glad you were there, son. He was spelling the role. That's good. All right. We're out of time. We'll pick it up here next time.

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