Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 386 | Phil’s Problem with America’s Love of Divorces & Jase’s Issue with Christian Hypocrisy

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

Phil shares the intricacies of training a new duck dog, and Jase has his own take on it too. Missy learns the secret to Miss Kay’s sweet potato pie. Phil and Miss Kay have an unusually difficult time with a very common device. Jase discusses the hypocrisy of people who call out others for sinning but don't hold themselves accountable. And Phil describes his issue with America’s increasing love of divorces and the negative effect it has on families. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? If you were to bust this, there would be thousands of little seeds. Oh, yeah, because I've seen them kind of floating in the water. That fell out of my pants. You know what that means? It means it's duck season. Duck season is here.

When things are falling out of your clothing from the woods. I think everyone who are actually watching this, because I just realized we still have our face paint on. It hurriedly came in and said it. I was thinking, Jayce who still got his face paint. I forgot about it. Yep, that's why you shouldn't. I can attest that you both still have your face paint.

This is why you shouldn't get the microscope out. It's a mirror. It's a mirror, not a microscope. Yep. Remember that story about the plank in that dude's eye that said, let me get this spec at ears? Jay said you need a mirror. Somebody sent me one of those,

which I'm using it now for when I put face paint. on it says why Jesus died on the on the thing it's like a little book and you open it up and there's a mirror inside which was pretty cool idea so I now have the whoever sent me that I now have that in my hunting bag so not only does it help me in the morning when I put my face paint on my makeup for hunting but it also reminds me of why Jesus died for me well you need to put it that's that's a great point you need to look at that mirror on Sunday mornings when you because you're into this the vest thing you tell me about. Yeah. I thought about that. When you wear a bulletproof vest, it protects you. That's what dad wears. Look, when you wear a life vest, it protects you from drowning.

Correct. When you wear the vest that you wear, it protects you from temptation. Temptation. How is that? You're not following me? No. No good looking woman. is going to make a move on you when you had that vest on. Well, there you go. I never realized that, but that's an excellent idea. That's another great point for wearing the vest. You're over. They're not make their move.

Because he's over 50 and he's wearing a vest. I got you. You're out. But I've set the trend. Without knowing it, you're right, Jay. Because now about half the church, anybody that's a middle-aged man has started wearing vests, like Al. Yeah.

You know, I've started a trend at WFR. But I didn't realize that we are going to, take the spiritual temperature up a notch because now we'll be we'll just remove that part of it well when you see me with one of those vests on go ahead and pull the plug i must say that the vest maybe there's different kinds i'm sure there are but i don't know what this material is alpaca alpaca yeah i bought to that alpaca yeah we've lost you to your mic as you're looking at the vests we've lost your sound yeah and that's in the 24% of this are the 2%, just two, two of them, it's other fiber linen. But 34% is wool.

You take wool and wrap you anybody with it. You know, forget the chicks. I'm just saying it will knock the wind, that cold wind hitting you. Exactly. Another reason for the vet. I was trying to be humorous with, a certain amount of life challenge in there, but y'all didn't get it.

But maybe some of our viewers. Oh, they got it. I'm sure they got it. All right. Do you want to tell the story or do you want me to? What story is that? So Phil's got a new dog and kind of like everything else they do in the pet world. They just name, he had a dog named Blue.

And this dog is named Drew. And so the first thing is... We wanted to stay in that genre. The dog would not stay in the four-wheeler. He basically did a lot of running alongside the cabman. So today was his first day, just so we're... First dab ducker. First ad-dunk.

So then he comes and jumps into my boat after we left the dock. I'd say at least 200 yards. He just comes running and jumps in the wrong boat. So I stood down right then, we're going to have problems. So I got him on his little dog spot, and then he immediately come out there and tried to help us put out the decoys. But it was mainly every time we'd throw one, he would grab it and take it to his little layer. Oh, boy. He's been to train.

He's been trained, but he's been to school. But this was his first day to ever actually hunt with us. and his job is to go retrieve the ducks and bring them back to us. And he learned that at a slow pace. Apparently his training didn't quite have him prepared for the actual hunt. You have live ducks flying by and a lot of gunfire. And that's a whole different deal. You've got the training, okay, but you can only do so much.

Right. So you have to be patient to see if the training paid off. if their natural instinct, their bred to do this, go retrieve ducks, Labrador, retrievers. Including decoys, because he's probably been getting dummies. The first thing he did is when he shot a duck is he went out, got one of our decoys, and brought him back to me. I said, nope. But his next trick was, so then it turned into a series of jokes, because used to, we'd make a video every year. Right.

And so someone offered the idea that this year's video, if we were doing one, could be called. what's wrong with Drew. However, however, with patience, by the time we got to number... Well, wait a minute, Phil. Let me back up before you give the end of the story.

So I'd say 18 to 20 ducks in, I mean, we had a good hunt. Yeah. He has retrieved one duck and 22 shotgun holes. Oh. When the show, When the holes would come from the weapons and fall around the blind.

He would go get the hole. He said, I've been trained to pick up things that fall out there in front of me. So he thought, he said, I'll pick up their holes and bring them in. But, you know, it's hard to tell a dog, you don't want to bring in shotgun-shell holes. You need to bring back ducks. You're swimming. He'd pick up a duck, drop him, and go pick up a hole and bring it to me. So at this point, if I'm understanding it correctly.

He's confused. He's bringing everything in from in front of the blind except for dead ducks. That is right. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure. He had a problem. I said he had left-wing tendencies because rather than acknowledge the creator, he acknowledged the cleanliness of the environment first.

I must pick up every hole, which is great that he's doing. An environmental dog. After we laugh. We go around and pick up the hose and take them out of the wild. so they don't shine them. So I did tell Phil was taking note for him. I said he does possess a skill. Yeah.

But when you look at our world the way it's set up, picking up trash is a pretty low bar. Yeah. We should send him out to California. But it's a needed bar. Yeah. So I said he is useful in some capacity. But it was hilarious because we would shoot a duck and the duck is out there.

He takes off and then he's like, let me pick these holes up. what I found fascinating was he would get a hole in his mouth. And you remember that movie? What was the movie with the guy with the toothpick? And he would flip the toothpick around in his mouth. Oh, his mouth? What movie was that?

And he got it hung. Yeah. His name was like tea or something. Wasn't that? Yeah, he was an ugly guy. I remember he was kind of a... It was a Chevy Chase movie. Somebody who's listening.

See, he was a... Well, this dog would do that. He would flip the hole around inside his mouth. He's circling around. Then he would do the patented dog gag. Oh, yeah. Because his mouth would be fixed open with water gushing in and he would, about the time we decided that this was not the right dog to fit into what we do.

He actually jumped out there, moved around a little bit on the first. front and I'm trying to point him out there's duck and all of a sudden something hit him and I mean he started swimming faster than any dog I've ever seen swim he was just going out across the water I mean he was moving he went straight past the decoys which he had been trying to pick up yeah he went past the decoys and picked up a duck lying in the water a gadwall and picked the thing up and brought her right back to me and handed him to me and looked at me I said yeah that happened We've waited a couple of hours here. Borderline miraculous.

And then the next doctor came in, he made the move on him. So you think he's crossed the threshold? What he didn't realize is that, well, I was glad to see. He was learning. I mean, it was quite a morning. I thought of every passage in the Bible about a dog, and you know what I realized for the first time? They're all negative.

Like dog returns to his vomit? Yeah. I thought, why are we upset? He's a dog. Right. He don't know. Even the dogs get the crumbs that fall from the table. It was actually so bad that no one was upset because we thought this dog, I mean, Phil was like, nope, nope.

And I was saying, no. Yeah. Phil had already, because our cousin, John, is the one that sent us the dog. Right. You know, Phil doesn't have a cell phone, but the text had already gone out. Come pick up the dog. Forget the thousands of dollars spent on the training. Donate the dog to the Sierra Club, but he's back.

So he came through toward the end, two great retrieves. I said, boys, all I can tell you, there is hope. So I hope he learned from the trainers, they can only go so far. There's no, like, gunfire ducks hitting, you know, I mean, it's just a different thing when you do it for real. So we're going to be patient and we're going to take him back and forth, you know, for a few days, and we'll take him out. See if he acclimates. See if he gets, gets...

Well, you now know he can retrieve a duck, so that's... It's like you, Al, never having duck hunted one day. They'll show you a gun, and they'll show you how to shoot it, and there's the safety, and they'll give you gun skills and all that. And then you're looking at it, you know, but you really, but if you've never duck hunted, you get out in the blind and look. look around all of a sudden, ducks are coming by its whole family. You're like, what in the world? Yeah, the speed of it. It takes a while to get acclimated to the real thing.

But in dog terms, they're the same way. You've got to give them a little time. That's right. That's the power of hope is because when that dog, despite it being the worst single performance by a Labrador dog I've ever seen. In our history. Yeah, I've never seen a dog worse than this. He never acknowledged a duck falling at any point.

He didn't listen to the whistle, no hand signals, all that stuff he's been trained on. He never acknowledged. He was just running willy-nilly picking up shotgun shell hulls and decals. And I said he doesn't understand duck hunting yet, but we'll give him a little time. Well, but once he got one, all of a sudden, sigh and everybody softened up. Right. No, it was, yeah, it was not good. I was hoping he could just make it back to the abode alive at this point,

because it was a terrible distraction. I was like, tie him up. I mean, they had to tie him up. But what's funny is, what's ironic is that I noticed Burley was here when I walked in today because I just got here. And I look over in the pen, well, I see blue. Yeah. And I'm like, of course, he's gotten a little grayer.

You know, he's retired now from hunting. but I was like, it was like a flashback. I was like, Burley, what's happened? Why is Blue here? And he said, well, you gave him to Burley. He lives in Colorado now. And so he said, well, I brought him with me down here because he's my buddy. And so he said, but Phil, he said, Blue went and jumped in the forward and Phil just took off because it was like old times for Dad.

It was just like you didn't realize he wasn't. I think he thought he was dirt. What the problem was with Burrell? is that Burroughs woman, and I remember when they married, and got two or three girls, three girls, I think, came out of that marriage. But Burley's woman told him, when you leave to go to Louisiana for your duck hunt during the winter, you get that dog out of here. That's why Burley brought the dog, his woman saying, get that thing out of here,

because I let him in my house one time. I'm going to make a yard dog out of him. Oh, no. He's, that's what we ought to be. We've got a wasp. Now, this wasst is mad, and so at some point in this show, I'm probably going to kill this wash. He's cleaning his back legs.

He's smoothing out his back legs for a fast flight. And it's not that I don't like wasp, but when they get in our zone, you have to take them out. Which happens quite a bit on the unashamed path. Don't hurt yourself. Don't hurt yourself. Dad. You got, I'll, now he's bad. Yep.

You don't want to miss. Well, you met. So, somebody's, oh boy, somebody says he's going to go. There you go. Where do you go? Oh, boy. He's up, he's out, and I don't have a hat.

Where's he at? Right above you. I got the pan, buddy. Don't tear up the pan. Oh, he's bad now. Got it. Where do he does? I heard he bounce off something over there.

He's like a. Trust me, that's a confirm. Wow. All right, we're back. Better than ever. Where were when we were so rudely interrupting? Well, he was madder than a hornet. So here's what I've learned.

Did we take a break yet? Let's take a break. We're back from this commercial with one dead wasp. We hope. He's not a confirmed kill. I'm going to tell you this. I picked a head. of a day not to wear a hat with such force the when he the sound that reverberated off the top of that

stove oh that's where he hit yeah yeah it went what ding so i think he's dead here's what i had the wrong weapon for was killing the the beanie hat is no good that you were just making a man we're in matthew 19 so this will be good since jesus reminded us that god made us male and And female, I learned something. This is along the lines of, you know, us having Labrador retrievers. Because some people, you know, they bond with their animal. But here's what I know is about women. They have this same love and adoration for plants.

The last time we went to Tennessee, I heard my wife talking on the phone, and I thought that something had happened to someone close to us because she was having somebody go over and check on them and she wasn't sure how they were. But, you know, I think if they make it through the week, they'll probably be okay. She hung off the phone. I was like, well, who do we know that's in hospital?

She's like, no, I'm having someone go over and check on my plants. And one of them is not doing well. I was like, you stopped your life in a car? to have someone get in a vehicle and drive over and check on your plants? And had that concerned of a conversation? Yeah. Case, remember what I said when you were a little child. When God made a woman, he made a strange creature.

Remember the strange creature part. That's... Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just thought. So I'm saying we do the same thing. Yeah. with our duck dogs, we had this weird relationship.

Because, I mean, today it truly influenced the entire blind. I was just like, can we just duck duck? And Jay said, I'll make a deal. I will be better than a dog if y'all will give me a chance. Well, we didn't take a... Think about it. Females got here by the skin of their teeth because you take a reel out of the man, which is not a whole lot to work with.

And he made a woe man. Well, from one rib, I mean, I'm just saying they've come a long way. Well, so you came from dirt. Huh? You came from a handful of dirt. Brought him up out of the dirt, and it took one of his ribs. He came out of the dirt, and a rive's not much. If I had a choice, I'd rather come up.

Somebody said we have more on one side of man than the other. Is that true? No, I said that because I read that somewhere, but it turned out to be false news. Oh, that men didn't have one less rib. I'd heard that before, too, but I never knew if that was true. I didn't consult an actual physician. Is that true, Josh? Your dad's a doctor.

Ask your dad about that. Research that. Someone gets on it. We want that and we want that and the toothpick going round and round. So I do want to mention because this podcast is going to air the day for Thanksgiving that we are actually having ours a day early, which is good, Judge. It means you'll get to be there, right? I'm actually going to be there.

And then I'm going to go to my other family in Tennessee. and we're going to have Thanksgiving because we're expecting the first grandchild. The first grandchild. Jay, you're fixing to be, are you ready for this, a grandfather? And so is Phyllis,

because they're expecting too. So that will mean that four out of your five children will be grandparents. Yeah. Getting old. Everybody but Jeff. We're getting old. D. That's great grandchildren.

Yeah. You know, I don't know how they got great and grand out of the same. It's just, I keep adding. I guess years on the years have been good. God allowed you to live. Well, it's great. Right to be great.

I have some, I have some earth-shattering announcements here to make. I mean, I've been married to my wife for over 30 years. Good save. And a good save, Chase. She has an epiphany this year for Thanksgiving. And she requested from your wife, my mom, that she teach her how to make sweet potato pies, which are my favorite. And I've already gone through my tradition every year. I eat an entire sweet potato pie the first one.

And Kay cooks. Of course, this year she made them smaller because she was worried. Well, you ate the mini pie on the thing, which, by the way, I've had at least three requests. because of that episode of people now wanting mom's recipe, which get her cookbook because I think it's in there. Well, now here's the deal. So Missy, they have a session. And she's like, the filling was easy.

She said, but that crust was a work of art. There you go. She said, I'm not sure. That separates the women from the girls. Of course you got to remember. And it separates the great pies from the not-so-gray. Yes, exactly. So she went and cooked me a sweet potato pie.

Missy did. Really? Yeah, after she had the session. And how long did it take her to pull this feet off? I don't know. She was gone for a while. 30 years. I'm talking about it.

Oh, oh, yeah. Well, I hated her. When did she come to say, you know, I'm going to make the sweet potato powder? Over 30 years. Yeah, it's a slow go. And she did spectacular. I was, of course, she's gotten to where. So her first one was a good one.

Good one. I said a little too much sugar. She said, well, I put how much. Kay told me to put in there. I said, well, her measurements are generalities. So whatever you went with, little less. But the crust was magnificent. You critiqued it properly.

You got to put it in. If she nailed the crust. She nailed the crust. She's golden because that's the hardest part of it. Cush is the key on the key. On any pie, but especially that pie. The entire pie. Right then.

That's a thumbs up then. So, yeah, I just thought of it. So now look what she's doing. So for our stuff. So now she's going to make them for your Tennessee. She's making two of them. So you can make an analogy that just like waiting on your retriever to do something grand. I'm sure you have to be patient.

Right. When you, before you finally get on the level of sweet, you know, homemade sweet potato pie, you have to be patient. Sometimes it takes a while. Well, the thing is, though, Dad, you know, what happens is we're watching the evidence. of our family, you know, without being morbid, we're realizing that you a mom, you know, you got less in front than behind. That's right.

And so everybody's like, we want to carry on some of the great traditions and food we have. So everybody's wanting to learn. And that sweet potato pie thing can go away and you never get it back. Oh, all it takes is one generation. You lose it. One generation. One generation decided nobody's going to learn how. It's gone.

Gone. Because she's learning the chicken dumplings, too. But she's about to be a grandma, see. So she's going to be the favorite grandma because she makes a little. That's what I hate to say. You know what? That's what it is. She's getting at the age.

There's fixing to be a grandchild. She said, I don't even know how to make a sweet potato pie. I need to know that. My husband loves it. So she shot out everything. We brought to the little Mia with her. And they went in there and they. Well, they had mom over at their house for the tutorial.

Oh, yeah. Well, she was supposed to come down here. But Kay's reached a certain age to where she forgot. And so that she was in town. So I called mom this morning. I was like, Mom. You know, she said, well, it could always be worse. This is the first thing she says to it.

It could always be worse. I was like, yep, I say that every day. What's happened now? Well, I don't know how to, me and your daddy don't know how to operate the new alarm clock. And I said, you don't know how to operate? Yeah, I said, did it not come with the instructions? Well, I think I threw them away. There were four little devices on the back of it.

And you don't plug it in. And there was no battery in it. I said, well, there's no battery. She said, no. And I said, you don't plug it in. No. I said, let's see. How's it working?

So one of these things, one of these things you turn backwards and then it stops. There's a new sound. It only runs. And then that spring, when it gets down, I don't know what time, how long it lasts. It's a wind up. But she gave it to me. I tried my best for about 30 minutes to see how the thing worked. So I was thinking you couldn't figure it out because it was electronic.

You couldn't figure out how to do a wind-up clock. I was looking for two little words, on and off. I found neither. Let's bypass the Bluetooth and things in the cyber world. And let's go to something called electricity. We make things, yeah, that we can actually plug in a wall. I told us, get one with a wire coming out of it. And I'll plug it in.

I think we can figure it out. But that thing, I said, I looked and it hurt my feelings, but it said in bold letters at the bottom, made in China. China. Made in China. That's the one thing I've never said to my wife since we've been married. We need a wire. Well, I said, have you let Dan look at it?

Well, I hadn't done that. I said, let Dan look at it. Maybe I can figure out. But so her problem was she overslept two hours. She had people coming overshelps. she was supposed to cook for him, so then she had to call him back and tell him to bring the food. To your point that mom is getting a bit forgetful, let's take another break. Well, look, yesterday, so we had a guest speaker from Jerusalem.

Is he a scholar? Yes. I mean, he's a, he's like a rabbi level. He's a Christian, so I don't know that he can be a rabbi. I don't know how that works. The rules there in Israel, but he's rabbi level. And he taught Matthew 19. Where we're at, which was...

Well, we just happened to have him coming through, and so Calat Common said, hey, Shulam's going to be here. I said, Shulam's from Jerusalem. He said, yeah. He said, he's teaching the class. I said, well, let's let him preach. Yeah, it was great. Yeah.

And he happened to be in Matthew 19, which is where we are. He took Matthew 19. It was the most positive rendition of Matthew 19 that I've ever heard. because he took the three stories here, which is the Pharisees were trying to test him, which was amazing is he took up for the Pharisees more than anybody because he's like, you got to remember, they were just trying to test him.

Nothing wrong with that. It was the most positive spin on Pharisees I've ever heard. But he had a good point. He knew a lot of noble Pharisees through the years and in the history who came to Jesus, which I wouldn't know that unless I was from Israel. And he's like, well, some tried to test Jesus, and they still try to test Jesus,

but they reached the conclusion that Jesus passed the test. I love that line when he said that. He brought out several texts that I had not noticed before. He went to two or three of them, where they went away amazed at who he was. The Pharisees. I don't remember he's saying there's nothing wrong with the testing in chapter 20

Jesus reaffirmed what he said in chapter 16 and I think the following text You're talking about the prediction of his death? The prediction, that's right. 16, well now, but he did say he put it in these people's lap. We're going up to Jerusalem.

This is chapter 20, verse 18, and the son of man will be betrayed to the chief priest and teachers of the law they will condemn him to death and will turn him over to the Gentiles, that's to be the Roman soldiers, to be mocked and flogged and crucified on the third day he'd be raised for the dead. So it's a pretty serious matter when it says they came to test him.

I do not think their motives were spiritual. Yeah, well, and certainly it didn't turn out positive at all. But his point was some of them in the testing product, process, put their faith in him, which Nicodemus came to mind. Yep. Yep. Nicodemus was going at night and said, hey, and I mean, he came around. Well, the other thing was, look, Jesus, it didn't matter how many times you put him to the test anyway.

Satan tried him too. He's the son of God. He never failed the test, whatever the test was, and whoever was tested him. Well, what I liked about his sermon was that he took one of the most difficult passages in the Bible. there's been thousands of books written from various A to Z. He opened up, he said, you know, I wouldn't have chosen this text to share with you today, but it was given me because that's where you were. And I was like, yeah, that's right.

No, he did a fantastic job. But his point was in each of these three settings that God displays his unlimited patience, which you were referring to, talking about your wife, learned how to make a sweep day of a pie, but just in generality that he showed, God shows his love and patience despite our weakness. And so in the first one, which was the marriage and divorce, the trap was, verse three, the Pharisees came to him and to test him. They said, is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason? And Jesus said, well, haven't you read that God made the male and female?

male and for this reason male and female a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh so they are not long long two but one therefore what god has joined together let man not separate which they knew knew that but then verse seven is kind of the trap part well why then did moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away and jesus replied moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard, but it was not that way from the beginning. And then I tell you the truth, anyone divorces a wife except for marital unfaithfulness and marries another woman commits adultery. So, and then he basically said

Moses represents the law. The exception was a sexual type of sin, but he said, you got to remember that God was showing his patience and he was not deterring the law, which I thought was a good point. He's like, nowhere in the Bible does it say don't keep the law. It says don't keep the law for salvation because you're not going to make it. It was a really good point.

So he's like, well, why should so much chaos ensue when God is giving you a path to salvation through him, despite your weaknesses and your breaking of the law. And he went back, I thought, in a brilliant way. And free from law. Yeah. But he went back in a brilliant way because he went back to Deuterreim of 24, which is where this idea comes from.

Exactly. But when you go back and you read that section, which idea is the first five verses of Deerremy 24, when you read it, you realize the debate they were having was in their first question for any and every reason. reason. Because if you go back and read that text, it was pretty clear that there had to be something bad happened to put this wife away in divorce. And by the way, it was being done to protect them too, because in those days, unless you were married under a man's, you know, leadership and ability to eat, you starved a death. That's why you wanted a son to take care of you. So, you know,

if you didn't have a husband, you needed a son. I mean, in their world, there was nothing like the world is a day. So these women, literally their lives were on the life. So he went back and he talked about that. That was the debate going on in the first century, too. Can you divorce her for any and every reason? In other words, you just get tired over and you divorce her. Or the only way you can divorce there is this something happens, which Jesus addresses that. But to your point, Jay, he went back to the beginning, which was the ultimate right way. And that's, look, you don't want to get divorced. I mean, Yeah, we want everybody to get along. Which was his point?

He stayed positive. Yeah. You say, well, what happens when it don't? And his point was, well, Moses allowed it via the law so that despite our weaknesses, there would be a path. And so even now today, you have some churches, I think it's a minority, but there's a few out there that I've heard of, that they'll make something. that happens in a divorce situation or adultery an unforgivable sin. Well, that's what they've done with this text, which is unfortunate. Let's take another break.

So it doesn't line up in the three stories if you look at them all, because then the next one is about letting the little children come, and you saw, what's that got to do with anything? But he made a really good point about immaturity and frustration. You know, when you look at it in light, of what happened in the first story, it's basically the disciples were looking at the children as an annoyance. And Jesus is like, no, these, this is what I'm looking for.

But because Jesus is looking at the innocence and the immaturity as potential. And a lot of the qualities that they see, I mean, are they? they're annoying things about our kids from time to time? Absolutely. But we don't shut them out. Well, but they fell into the same trap that people always do. They're like, well, they don't know enough yet. So get them out of here because the adults are talking. Jesus said, no, wait a minute, you need to learn from them because you see this wide-eyed innocence. You see this wanting to be near me. That's what I want in you. So I think that's probably the human condition. since there's business that kids, it was like, well, get the kids out of here.

I mean, that's the mindset, but he's like, no, everybody's important, every single life. I think you're right. I think it shows it. But before you leave that, he didn't talk about it, but I wanted us to address in verse 10 before we leave that section on marriage, which he's right. And I would add, Matthew 20 is another example of the grace and patience. But when the disciples heard what Jesus said, he was like, look, this is the way it should be. Their conclusion was the same one that Paul had later.

They said, well, if this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry. In other words, they were like, you know, it'd be better out if you just wouldn't even marry because then you don't have to worry about dealing with that. All these problems that would come from, which Paul said the same thing quite a bit later. And Jesus says not everyone can accept this word, you know, one husband, one wife, live together for your whole life. only those to whom it has been given, which was Paul's point later that not, if you had a, if you want to be married, be married, but stay committed and faithful. But if not, don't marry is what he said.

For some are eunuchs because they were born that way. Others were made that way by men and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should, which is, again, interesting. back to the grace point, Jay's, because he says this is not going to be easy for people to make this call, this decision, the one who can should. That's not, you know, that sounds like he's given some play there for you to make the best decision for you. So I did think it's interesting because you've made this point a lot that, that some people seem to be born what I would call asexual, meaning they're not attracted to women or men, as some people say they're attracted to men,

or if they're a man. And in other words, In other words, they're not attracted in that way. They just, it's not that they wouldn't get married maybe and still, you know, function as a husband wife. It's just they're not that way. Some of them get married when they're 70. That's right. 60.

Exactly. And then some, it says, are made that way by men, which we understand that. That happened a lot in this day, as you didn't see as much now. And then he said, others have just decided, you know what? Because of the kingdom, I'm just not going to follow what happened. That's the Apostle Paul's argument. And that's what he said. which I've always thought this was a strong argument for obviously traditional what Jesus said from the beginning, one man, one woman, because there's been a lot of, as time has gone by, a lot of aberrant ways to try to connect people together, mix the genders around. We've seen some crazy stuff. He says, don't do any of that. Like, what I've said is the way to do it is the way to do it. If you want to do something different, you should renounce that and just trust in me.

And so I think ultimately that when you talk about it in this stage, but even at the end of that, he still had grace because he had it all throughout the time underlawed. He still has it to this very day, which was a strong point. Well, and I think when he said some were made that way by men, we think physically, but even emotionally, you know, there's some crazy people out there. And some people, you know, when they raise their kids, they may influence in one way. and others through something traumatic or abuse or whatever. And so then it messes their mindset up on what God was talking about as far as the ultimate. So, I mean, there's a lot of things that happen, but to the speaker's credit yesterday, in every situation, for any and every reason that you are the way you are,

there's a path to who you are in Christ and a purpose for being here. So that's what I really liked about it, because most people just talk about the exceptions. Well, what if somebody does this or try to put all the puzzle pieces together? And he was more looking at the overall point. Yeah, God allowed some exceptions in Deuteronomy, based on Deuteronomy 24 through Moses, but he did it because we're weak.

And he's not. And he does the same thing through grace and Christ, and there's no sin that you can commit that he won't forgive you for. You know, and Jason yesterday when he read Moses, Matthew 19, 8, 9, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. It was not this way from the beginning. I'd tell you that anyone who divorced his wife, except for Marital Faith and Marries another woman commits adultery.

He made a statement. He said, is this a condemnation of people or a praise to God? And I thought that was a great way to frame that. In other words, we usually read that text as a condemnation of people. In other words, you know, hard hearts. But he says, look at how great God is. Because in spite of the fact they were not doing it the way he wanted them to do it, he gave them a way to deal with a situation in a hard-hearted situation.

So it really is a praise to God more than a condemnation of people, which is how we tend to approach this text. But we were kidding earlier about having a speck in our eye and then trying to get, or a plank in an eye and trying to get the speck out of somebody's eye, but you apply this here. I mean, there's some groups of church people who go around and police things like this, and they're not policing all sin, just the one. that they see fit.

Right. And when you look at the hypocrisy of that, if we're all sinners, we're all sinners. Right. But it makes people, a lot of religious people, grace makes them uncomfortable because they immediately go to us a lot, your sinners, it's a license to sin. No. We're just reading what God said, and he's, he has unlimited patience with us and forgiveness for everyone, but it doesn't change the ideal.

What Jesus wants is the two in a marriage situation to become one and let man not separate. He was clear on that. But then in his answer about, well, what about all these different reasons that it's not happening? It never changed what he said. He's still patient with us. He still died for us because he reminded us that in the next chapter. I mean, he could have just said, you know what, you're right. you are never going to get this right.

So I'm not going to die for you. Right. But he didn't. Well, but the problem. You tend to take it too lightly. The man marries the woman marriage. In America, we take that pretty lightly. If you don't like them, call them the next, you know,

they stay married three days and then they'll be off to again. Right. You got, somehow, they have to be more serious minded. Well, when it comes to this, because the children starts crying, and the families are brinked. broken up and busted up and then there's again and again and again. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's not good. But you know what's not good for families, children.

But what's amazing dad is for the first, I would say almost 200 years of our existence. And then whatever time before that, before we became a country, you know, you couldn't divorce for any and every reason in America, under American law. In the, actually was our, is our old, you know, guy with the guy that I love, Ronald Reagan in California that brought in the phrase they used instead of for any and every reason like they were debating here, irreconcilable differences. That came in from California in the 60s, late 60s, that that could be a reason for divorce. And ever since then, it's been off and running, like you said.

I mean, you just divorce for, you know, whatever. I don't like the way you look at me. Okay, we're out of here. So we've seen that sort of expedited run of like that in this country. Much more recently, that's been in your lifetime. Well, I think that was Jesus at this point. God, if you don't believe God joins you together. Right.

And now. And there your children are standing around and the man is gone or the woman is gone, whichever one. They have to then raise them alone or try to find somebody. I mean, it just creates a lot of harm. Right. Well, and let's take our last break. I mean, a good strong structure, Jesus said that. I mean, he shouldn't.

I don't think it's an accident. He talked about husbands and wives being one. And then the next paragraph is talking about little children coming to him. And then the last analogy is talking about money. That's the number one thing that people fight over in marriage. Yeah. Kids and money. That's right.

That's a good point. And it shows you how fragile it is, but also that it doesn't have to be. And Shula made the point yesterday that he said that somewhere along the line, because when you get into the third one, which is the rich young ruler, you get this idea that we say, just because we're not under conviction of law because of what Jesus did the cross, like somehow we shouldn't try to obey the commands of God and Jesus. And he was like, where do we ever come up with that idea? Yeah, that's how I mentioned that earlier.

It never says don't keep the law. Right. It says Jesus fulfilled the law in love, but don't look to the law for salvation. To save you. But look at it to remind you of your weakness in God's grace. The law is holy and good, the Apostle of Policy in Roman 7. Which that was the rich young ruler's problem is that he was looking to the law for his salvation. That was the issue because we know his heart wasn't fully committed to God because when Jesus asked,

to me. He was like, well, and then he made the point, even in the question, which I thought this was interesting. I've never thought about this before. He said, now a man came up to Jesus, to teach her, what good thing must I do to get eternal life? And he talked about that this guy showed out of the bat that he, I mean, grace was extended to him in the sense that he wanted to do the right thing. He made a big point about that. Like he was saying, he knew he was a, you know, a pretty decent person in terms of he kept the law, he tried to do what was right. thing. He said he came with the right, you know, hat and hand. What good thing must I do? Because, you know, I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing. And he said, Jesus says, why do you ask me

about what is good? There's only one who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments. And then he says, which ones? And then he lists some. And he says, all these I have kept. The other man said, what do I still like? Which was really interesting that he still felt like there something that wasn't right. Well, and he didn't name the commandment that he had obviously broken. So he thought, yes. I've kept all those. I've kept all those.

That's good. Because we know it wasn't perfect, but he had kept the list. Yeah. Well, you know the one he really didn't, and Jesus didn't mention it, but the one he really missed was, you know, nothing above God. Generosity. You know, do not put anything above God, and he had his love of wealth because he says all these okay you said well if you want to be perfect go sell your possessions

give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven then come follow me if you want to be really perfect just go ahead and sell everything off and come join this rag tag bunch and you can look at the disciples looking at it with big eyes you know because they looked up to this guy and then says the guy walked when he heard this he went away sad because he was a man of great well and alter we know that was his deal. Of course, they got into the wealth idea, and they had the same take on that, well, that they did on marriage, which is like, well, maybe we just don't need money. That's right. Let's forget the whole deal. This sounds hard, and this is where you get the eye going, a camel going through the eye of the needle. Right. But in one of my favorite

verses, Jesus says, because they said, well, who then can be saved? Jesus looked at them and said, this is 1926. With man, this is impossible, but with God, all things are possible. Exactly. Which really lays the point out that you can't do it without the full heart commitment to God. There's no way in and of yourself to do enough. And it's going to be hard. And I mean, all of this, he didn't say, look, this is just a piece of cake. Because marriage is difficult. And he talked about all the things that happened. He just include this is difficult. Yeah.

Children are difficult. Children are difficult. They're all different and I don't know what happened. It's just one after another, you better not follow the same path. I mean, they're all different. It's difficult. Yeah. And then with money, yeah.

Just what's the number one thing you fight with with your spouse in polls? And I really believe that. But think about how many people that. you know that because they have achieved, you know, success, money, wealth, fame, whatever, really don't have a lot of room in their heart for God because it's like, you know. Well, and they're still fighting over it too, about where, what's going where. I mean, the lack of it is a big fight, but then when you have it, I've been on both sides of it. I had none and I had plenty.

You still have disagreements. That's exactly right. I mean, they just, it's a better disagreement when you have it because at least you're fighting over having it. But not having it, it's a more difficult fight. Right. But it's mainly like, well, if you would do something with yourself, maybe you would make some more money. I'm doing the best I can. You know, that's just to give you a sample.

I had that. Well, even this last question, Jay's. so Peter follows up with this with man this is impossible with God things all things are possible we have left everything to follow you what then will there be for us which is an interesting question because is he asking it from the ideas that is there going to be something to come along we're going to get out of it because this is looking like you know none of us have anything we're following you around you don't seem to have anything I mean like when are we going to get the thrones and the like

You know, when are we going to kind of get a little status going? I mean, it's... And the power. It seems like that's the way he asks it. But then Jesus says, I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the son of man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 trials of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or fathers or mothers or

children or fields for my sake receive 100 times as much and will inherit. eternal life. But many who are first will be last and many who are last will be first. Don't you think he prioritizes everything here? No matter what your marriage situation or your past or kids or your money situation, he's like your relationship with me, which is what he was all about. It wasn't about the law. It was about the law giver and why he gave it. You know, he made that point yesterday, too, about the relationship aspect. That, that's a lot. That's a That's what he was trying to get across to him. You get your relationship with me, right?

All that you're going to be blessed. Yeah. Here and later. And I think we've kind of missed the point of trying to make it where it's like a fortune. Because when you own everything, some things don't seem to matter much anymore. In other words, Jesus is, we're co-hears of the universe. That's everything. So when you start getting down to how big a pile of gold you're talking about,

that's pretty low on the scale if you own the universe. You know what I'm saying? I mean, just, but it's hard to see that perspective, you know, that when you're talking about eternal life and being in heaven and, you know,

being a co-air of the universe, you know, how big my stack of gold is or my, it's just not going to matter. And you're not going to need any money where you're going. Right. You don't need it. No.

That's what I'm saying. When you own everything, some things don't matter. So, all right. Well, We're out of time. So our crack staff found out that the guy with the toothpick was from Uncle Buck.

He was the guy. Uncle Buck. He was the guy in the bowling alley that was kind of looking sideways at Uncle Buck's niece, and he was working that tooth thing thinking he was cool. Phil's dog did that on a shotgun hole today. He had the hole was, your hole's tall. Yeah, and scratchy.