Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 405 | Jase Finds a Body in the Road & Phil Takes His Protection into His Own Hands

Episode Date: January 7, 2022

Jase has an early-morning surprise while heading to hunt, which sparks a discussion about overcoming hardships. Phil reminds us how remotely he lives and quotes himself from "Duck Dynasty." Al and Phil discuss the tomb guards' encounter with an angel, whose skin shone like lightning. And Phil and Jase remind the audience to fulfill the great commission by making all nations Jesus' disciples. Pre-order your signed copy of Uncanceled by Phil Robertson: https://talkshop.live/watch/QID3D1y77yHJ - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jase, I hear this. So we're talking about the, today we're getting to the burial of Jesus and the resurrection. But Stone's telling me something. I just got a glimpse of a story that I haven't heard, so I'm hearing it for the first time. I have told this story because Stone's like, don't tell that story. I mean, it's too disturbing.

And I was like, what? This is real life. Yeah. So I'm coming down duck hunting, and I've often said many times I've told various stories that you see things in between the hours of 3.30 and 5 a.m. that really shows a reflection of the status of life. Yep. And a lot of it is troubling.

I look at our culture. Our culture at that morning, time of the morning, there are some disturbing science. Because it's actually, you know what it's like, Jay's? It's like, because when I, at 10.30, you go to Chick-fil-A and it's a changing of the guard. They've had breakfast up till 10.30. And then at 10-30, there's like a magic thing that gets, you know, switch that gets flipped. And then we go to spicy chicken sandwiches, which is good for y'all. So it's kind of like that.

In the middle of the night or in the early morning hours for y'all, it's the magic going out. But for other people, they've been doing, they've been up to things that are now coming. into an end. Let me live. He's talking about traveling roads that were just dirt a few years back. That's right.

But now they're pavement, but they're still in the... When I was a young lad learning how to drive, I started the Tokyo drift out here on these roads. It was the redneck. Well, let me just say,

for those who've been living under a bridge or whatever, Phil lives in a very remote place on the globe. This is really... remote. Yeah, because it's all timber land coming out here. So there's nobody lives out of it. Phil actually quoted something on our little duck show that we used to be a part of that people thought, boy, I wonder who wrote that. You know, they didn't realize that everything we were saying,

unfortunately or fortunately, based on your view of our show, was literally set off the top of our head. But Phil famously said where I'm at, I am 9-1. one and people thought boy what a line no that was true i mean people because phil is a person of character and there there are some people and it's true like the our neighbor's house caught on fire one time was terrible we all just all we can do is down there watch it burn because our department we're going to get here for it burned out by the time they get here whatever was going to happen probably happened probably already so uh so i will read this just because since Stone was nervous about me sharing this story, what happened to him.

You know, in First Thessalonians 5-4, which actually goes in with what we're talking about, this is right after 413, where he said, you know, how is this going down with the people that were dead and the people that were alive when Jesus comes back? And he says, we believe Jesus died and was buried and raised again. And so we believe that God will bring with Jesus, those who have fallen asleep in him. And we're talking resurrection here. Well, he gets to first Thessonians five because he knows what everybody's thinking. Well, when is this going to happen?

Because if you knew, well, then you get yourself ready. Well, and also the context of the Thessalonians, they thought it was so imminent that they were selling all their stuff. Quit working. Because he has to say, hey, wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, just keep going about your life here. You know, this may be a little while for it. And so then he goes on to say in chapter five and two, this will come like a thief in the night, which means that whenever people say, whenever they predict the world's going to end, we know that's not true.

But I want to just take a little side point about the story I'm going to share because he says in 1stststernation 5-4, which is one of my favorite verses in the Bible, that we as followers of Jesus should not be surprised when this happens, which when you carry that through your mind, we're ready. Yep. We don't want to see Jesus come back and say, oh my goodness, what is happening?

This is shocking. Now, this is something we depend on. Who in the world is that? Yeah, we don't, you don't want to be surprised. And then he makes this illustration, which is going to be to the point, the foundation from my story.

It says, so then verse 6, let us not be like others who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-control. Now, that alert is going to be a key thing. to the story I'm about to tell. Well, I'm intrigued. I've never heard a setup quite like this.

And I'm going to keep building because verse 7 says for those who sleep at night and those who get drunk get drunk at night. Well, what about when there's a combination of those two things and thinking about alert? So I'll get to the story. I'm driving down. It's 4.45 a.m. Just like I do every other day of duck season for 60 days. You could say this where you were is in the middle of nowhere.

That's why I led by that. Yeah. I am literally in a place where there is nothing. There are trees and there are trees that just got cut. So we have a cut over and we have trees. They're fixed to be cut or they just got cut. in between bridges, canals, creeks, swamps, woods, and a lot of critters. All the critters.

Which puts you more on alert, by the way. And it's an... When I drive out of here, I'm on alert because something may dart out of the woods. I've hit multiple deer. I hit a hoot owl once. I mean, he hit me. I didn't hit him. So don't say, oh, Jays broke the law.

He had a hoot owl. No, it literally flew into my windshield. Yeah. And so... I had one hit the window. Like, I had my window down. to hit the thing and then just came in and clawed my leg on the way by. So there's an eight mile stretch when you head to my dad's that is filled with carcasses

and vultures that are ready to, you know, it's like you're seeing the food chain and the cleanup all at one thing. We call it Carcass Lane because the Redneck's like to throw out their deer carcars. So I'm in the middle of that area and I get a phone call. at 445, which is unusual, because most people are sleeping. Well, it's stone. And he says, I'm going to give you, and I quote, I say, yeah, because I'm wondering, I'm thinking he's overslept and he's going to be late because that's really the only time you get that call.

But I say, yeah, he says, watch out for that body in the middle of the road. I said, so what would you say to that? that. I said, come again? Well, you would say come again. I said, and I said it frustratingly because I didn't like, I didn't, I didn't know what that meant. Yeah. So I said, what kind of body? I said it like that. And he said, in this manner of speaking, human. So I just hung up. Because I thought, watch out for that body. Watch out for the human body. And Jay says, the body.

I hung up. So 30 seconds later, because now I'm looking in the road, which he didn't know where I was at. And I didn't know where he was at. But now I'm almost here. Most people would have that conversation. I mean, I probably should have. But how do you explain in that stretch? Because up until this point, I haven't seen a body in the road.

I would have remembered that. So I, and I'm almost here. I mean, within a few miles. So I start looking. 30 seconds. I see something in the road. Big. And I thought, well, that can't be a human body.

That's too big. And it was in the middle of the road, as in, I'm slowing down, because I would have hit this, whatever this is. And this is not a standing body. No. And so as I slow down, I thought, huh, there's a human. laying in the road across the road, head where the lines would be in the middle, feet, on the side. Probably better say a human lying in the road.

Lying in the road, my bad. For our vocabulary lessons. English major. I know. I'm caught up in the hysteria of what happened. So I ease around the body in the road because I didn't. It was a human. And at that moment, I felt compassion.

I thought this body was dead because it was face down in the asphalt with kind of arms outstretched. So I called Stoneback because I was going to say I'm fixing to see if this body is alive. But as I'm pushing the dial, I see the truck coming and I'm looking. I'm like, oh, because it's hard to turn around there. There's nowhere to turn around. So he said watch out for the body. and he had to find a place to turn around, he's coming back. So I was like, perfect.

So he come up beside me, and he's like, well, you think? And I said, I don't know. So he called 911. And so now he's on the phone with 911. And I hear him now, because now I've just turned around in the ditch, and we're both got our headlights on this human body. Well, I was. And you're thinking he's dead.

I mean, Al. I'm like 99% sure. He looked dead. Okay. I mean, who would do this? Because there's no civilization. And there was no vehicle. There's no house.

There's no, and I'm looking at all this. I got a spotlight that I use for duck hunting. And I'm, because I'm looking in the bushes thinking, I've seen enough movies to think, okay. This is the beginning of a horror movie. Yeah. I mean, I have located my pistol. I haven't drawn it, but I know where it's at. And because I thought it could be people in the bushes saying, oh, I'm hurt.

And then you get out. I mean, we've seen those. I mean, that was in the back of my mind, but I'm thinking somebody has either dumped this body or hit this body. And by the way, it's on carcass lane? Is it on that side? No, it's in the general vicinity. And so, but I started assessing the situation as he's talking. And I'm like, there's nobody in the woods that, because I bow, I lit them up with this spotlight.

There's nobody out here. I see no blood. Now, I see no movement, but I see no blood. Yeah. And I looked at his feet, he's bare feet, and they had pajama pants on and just like a regular shirt. But the pajama pants were kind of pulled down a little bit. And so it's like you see his midsection was just exposed, which was troubling. But I thought, there's no blood.

I see no wound. And then his feet looked real dirty as in he'd been walking on the road. and I thought maybe it just collapsed. So then it hit me to do what I should have done first. I went, hey, I hollered. I mean loud. Well, when I hollered, Jay went, there's movement because he kind of moved his head. And Jay's like talking to 911.

He's alive. And then I heard Jay say, but he's not looking real good. And that's what I was thinking. So then the guy puts his arms behind him, because you've got to remember we're up on pretty close to him with our headline as it as it and I noticed this position yeah it's the handcuff position I said he thinks we're the law so that made me think he's probably been up to no good because I mean you're it's possible in this particular scenario I mean I just put myself in this situation if I've decided to take arrest in the middle of the road asphalt

My first inclination. You need to be over in the tree line in the ditch. It's not funny. This is not funny, but everybody lives. Now that he's alive, we can laugh. We can laugh about it. My first inclination, if somebody hollered at me, would not be to assume the handcuffed position.

That just wouldn't happen. That gave you a little information on where this possibly could start it. That's what I thought. So then I thought, okay, we have either drunkenness, drugs or mental mental problems. One of those three things, I don't know what else we could have here.

And so I said that and Jay was relaying that to the 911. Is there moving? Yeah, is he coherent? No. He's not coherent. He tried to lift his head. So then it was, then it got into the back and forth of, you know,

what's he doing? Do you feel safe? And Jay was on. So they told him to wait right there and he said, look, I got decals to put out. No, no, here's what happened. Stone said, do you want us to wait until you get here? And they said, we don't care what you do. We're coming.

So I think they thought, because you say that, Jay said, well, that seemed a little, you know, impolite of me. And I was like, well, no, they're thinking, what, there's nobody out there except y'all, you are going duck hunting and this fellow. So. And the other thing is. For us. Hang on, let's take a break. He could also turn violent. Then you'd have to do something.

Well, I think that's what they were probably thinking. Right. Because I'm like, it was a big guy. I mean, you don't want to have to do something to this person either. Yeah, which I was never. You never felt true. My first thing was not going to be pull out my pistol. Right.

Unless a bunch of people bum rush the vehicle. Right. If he got up and went zombie apocalypse, I would just hook it in reverse. I can outrun a man in his. condition in my truck. And so they said, we're on the way. Long story short, you know, ambulance comes. He never looked like, oh, I fell asleep in the middle of the road.

So he had had a bad night. But I was telling Stone, I was like, no, the reason you tell this story is if you have a drinking problem or a drug problem, you don't want to end up in asphalt, sleeping. where there's just all these critters that most time when they see a body laying in the road, they're like, here we go. Because I was thinking more like that. Especially in this area, yeah. I mean, we got bobcats over there in the ditch saying, what do you think?

Yeah. I mean, so, I mean, that's where, that's where it leads. But I thought to myself, this could be the bottom. Sure, we could have just kept going, you know, but I mean, I'm like, here's this human man here. We got to stop our life, and maybe this will be, you know, a point where they can get their act together. Some sort of thing. Because it seemed kind of in the, now, how, I'm just guessing, but if you're laying out in the middle, literally the middle of nowhere in the middle of the road and there's people driving by, there's some changes that need to be made.

It's a dangerous, dangerous spot to lie down. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's the old Good Samaritan story. I mean, he was really fortunate that y'all were the ones because there's some people driving around out here at 4 o'clock in the morning. Next car could have hit him. It would have hit him because they'd have been high on meth or something. We know there's a lot of that going on too. So he's fortunate.

It was you in Stone that found him and to be alive. Yeah, exactly. So it was a happy ending because the person, you know, the last time we heard is, okay, at least he's going to get checked out. because that's what I'm saying. I've heard a lot of people get up and give their testimonies or whatever, and there was a story like this that was in there, you know. That's right. So I always remember that Trent Langhoff, one of my good friends who's now out at Colorado Christian University,

I mean, he's so educated and he's so articulate and he loves Jesus and he has a beautiful family. At one time he was homeless in New Orleans and had a drug. overdose that put him in a hospital. I mean, but he fell out and he was lying in a row down in New Orleans, which is the only thing worse that I could think than being out in this cutover. That's right. But here you look at him now, so I thought, you know, I think it's worth telling just to say, I mean, that's the kind of stuff that's going on.

That's right. Mostly at night. I mean, that's why that first Estolian's father said that. It said those who get drunk, they get drunk at night. and this we were just seeing the end of a pretty rough night yeah i mean because he had had to have walked miles miles to get to this spot which is why i said when i saw his feet i was like he he'd been walking away and wasn't real sure where he was headed or where he was going and just so yeah that happened but it also made me you know realize that story i thought of that parable myself

I was like, we're, I mean, once we knew it was okay, I mean, then it kind of became a little humorous, but it really not funny. I mean, this is a human being, and we all. It's really sad. Yeah, it's sad. It's a sad story. But hopefully, you're right, it'll have a good ending if this person realizes it, you know, how sad his life really is. But to the story, to the Good Samaritan story, the person in the story, because this was a guy that was nobody wanted to deal with either. And Jesus's point is the people that walked by were people that should have been, they were followers of God.

They should have been willing to check on this guy. But because he wasn't on their status level, they just walked on by. And that was his point was the idea is that every person is important. If you look nationwide, there's a lot of people that walk on by. Oh, that's exactly right. Walk on by. That's exactly right. Don't care about anybody.

But he's in the road. We don't know whether he's dead or alive. He said, hey, I ain't got time food with that. That's right. I'm in a hurry or whatever. Danger. Well, and even, you know, like I said, the police, I mean, their position on it has to be, you can do what you want because if they tell you to stay and then he attacks you,

well, then it's going to come back on them. That's right. And I thought it was just an interesting bit of dialogue there. I was thinking, I mean, this guy's laying in the middle of the row. You need some help. There's nobody out here. There's no houses. There's no.

He needs some help. Yeah, that's the saddest part of the story to me is that him wind on. up there. But it made me realize how important, you know, Jesus is in somebody's life that you have some kind of moral compass to make better decisions. But you also have people who, I mean, all of the things that Jesus did, which was awesome. I mean, we're amazed at his arguments and the things he said and all the sermons that he had, but he also just had a heart for every person. And what he got with that was having a bad reputation among religious people and the government because he would have a meal with anybody and help anybody and touch anybody.

But God knows that those are the moments where transformation can happen. And that's the greatest gift on earth that you can see is somebody go from laying in the streets. I wanted to share that. Who knows one day you may hear this podcast. That's right. If you hear the podcast, you'll know, you'll remember what happened. Yeah, there's a New Year's resolution. He probably does not remember you or Stone or anybody else.

No. Yeah, he probably, probably the whole night's gone now. Yeah. I hope, I pray that he turns his life around. So to your point, Jay, this last time we talked about Jesus on the cross, and there were a couple of things I wanted to mention that we didn't talk about because I found him interesting. But in those statements he made, he's dying.

for the sins of the world, but he looked at his mother. He was concerned for her. He looked at the people that were killing him. He said, forgive him. He looked at the thief and said, you know, he gave him comfort, you know, and he had just been insulting him, you know, five minutes earlier. So to your point, Jesus always had that compassionate look at people, even the people that, from our perspective, didn't deserve it.

Last time I didn't mention this in Matthew 27, the moment in verse 51, when Jesus, Jesus dies and says he gave up his spirit. And then on one of the other ones, he says, into your hands, I commit my spirit, the temple curtain tears into from top to bottom. And then there's also an earthquake that happens. And remember you've had this, there's been an eclipse, a divine eclipse, three hours they've been in dark. Would your thought process be, that was God leaving there?

Yeah. I mean. Well, that's why I wanted to bring it up because a lot of people say, what does that mean? The temple curtain tears that. So I want to set that scenario because that was a huge thing that happened because the way the temple set up, you had the interior little room called the Holy of Holies. And the high priest would go in there once a year to make a sacrifice for the people. Springle some blood. A spotless lamb would be sacrificed.

And then he worked in the outer part of that called the Holy Place. It wasn't the Holy of Holy Place. And there was a temple curtain that separated the two. And the thing was that anybody else, you walk back in there, you just stroll in there, you die. And so when Jesus dies, that thing rips into by divine power, meaning there's no more. The sacrifice for sins that you've thought all this time, that's over. That just changed. So that was a huge saying that happened, you know, especially for the Jewish minds.

And that's a pretty good basis for saying, in a relatively short period of time, this thing is coming down. Right. And that's pretty well the coming of leaving, not being there anymore. Well, the shadow of temple worship versus Jesus worship. You know, a good book. Yeah. A good letter that addresses that is Hebrews. and in Hebrews 13, 12, after it gave the analogy in verse 11 about the high priest carrying the blood of animals into the most holy place as a sin offering,

but the bodies are burned outside the camp, you know, which would be their way of worship just to push their sins forward, you know, another year. And we know Jesus did it once and for all. He says that in Hebrews 9. but in verse 12 it says And so Jesus Also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy Through his own blood Let us then go to him outside the camp Baring the disgrace

He bore for here we don't have an enduring city But we are looking to the city That is to come But it made me think about this fellow in the road You know we call 911 When we I don't know who initiated the thought, but when we say when somebody's a danger to himself or others,

well, you call 911. Even humanity recognizes you've become a danger to yourself or others. You're in the middle of a highway. But when you think about what Jesus offers and that he loves everyone, I mean, we're all dangerous to ourselves and others outside of him, looking at it from an eternal perspective. I mean, you don't have the way, the means, the wisdom to solve your problems. It's just not there, which is why Jesus did what he did. Right.

I agree. Let's take another break. And then something else happens that I wanted to mention. I want to mention that just because people, I know, will wonder what that was up with the temple. But also this earthquake happens. The earth shook, it says, in 51. the rock split, tombs broke open, and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life.

They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection, so that's still going to be a couple days away, they went into the city and appeared to many people. Now, that's a weird, I mean, what a weird happening that is? I don't really know what that means. I mean, part of me, the fact that it says after Jesus's resurrection, well, then you think maybe they got their glorified body there, which was not unprecedented because you had the transfiguration occur in 17, and the two, you had an dispute about Moses's body on where it was buried,

posted by the evil one. He was like, where's his body? And then you had Elijah who didn't die. He just took off. And there's other other guys mentioned there's one in Enoch. Yeah, in Genesis.

He just, I think Hebrew, I'm here in the Hebrews. What did it say about Enoch? By faith, Enoch was taken from this life so that he did not experience death. He could not be found because God had taken him away. Before you was taking him.

So there were a few pre this happening that didn't experience death like most people do. Well, and then you have that Weird passage in 1 Peter 3 when he was talking about when Jesus would come back. And it says that Jesus went and shared to those, should I just read it? It said, let's see, First Peter 3, it says in verse 18, Christ died for sins once for all. So this is the same time frame, the righteous for the unrighteous to bring you to God.

he was put to death in the body but made alive by the spirit through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah. I think the timing is right for that because some were resurrected and impossible. I mean, I didn't read that out of a book somewhere. I just, I read that and I've read where. That's why I wanted to bring it up. Some open their teams. It's intriguing. I mean, they either were like Lazarus, who they were raised and then they died again,

or they were like Jason's describing, they were actually glorified and then I guess left. They're not still here. So they didn't stay if they were raised glorified. I mean, if you read all the passages that talk about that, you remember Paul's vision that seems to be about himself? Right. In Corinthians where he knew a guy that was. called up to the third heaven and he saw things that he that we can't speak of and when you put

all those together what you conclude is we don't know outside of the physical world and our senses right what the heck's going on anybody who claims they they do is probably making money reading people's palms or whatever and and i'm not saying there's not something to that because there seems to be since the beginning of the time the idea of witchcraft and demon possessions and voodoo and all that kind of spiritual world but based on what i read this doesn't make me scared at all i just know that jesus has a power to raise dead bodies in people that were dead he can bring them back to life in a real meaningful way and it you know in acts one it says jesus himself And most of these other things that you see, nothing's ever proven.

Right. It's like I hear a voice, you know, it's telling me, but it's most of the stuff you hear on the psychic hotline and all is something that a pretty good con man could pull off. Not saying that it's not happening, but. Well, it's a big difference in resurrecting people and my grilled cheese sandwich looks like Jesus, you know. Well, right. I mean.

Or a cloud. I've seen people do that. They send you an email. There's a cloud. And they're like, look, see? And it's like the cloud is the shape of like the gospel diagram. It's like trying to tell us something. I'm like, well, they already did tell us something just in black and white and red in the Bible.

But like you, like all of us, you know, I hear things that I think, well, I don't know about that. But I know because I read past it's like this, that anything is possible. I mean, God could decide to do whatever he wants to do. If he wants to bring people back to life and then they die again. I think as humans, people try to come up with something extra that's not in here. But there's nothing extra that you're going to come up with that God didn't solve. Yeah. When he says he took care of, you know, all of the issues, there's nothing.

If you live forever with God, what else is there? That's right. If you have all your sins removed and you're resurrected and you're going to live forever, with a forever family. What else does he need to tell you? I have pretty well covered. I mean, that's the basis for everything, right? You're exactly right.

So, and we get to 57 in Matthew 27, and so Jesus has died. All the prophecies have been fulfilled, you know, because his legs weren't broken where the other thieves were, which, by the way, the reason they did that is because when you crucify someone, you don't really kill them by the nails and all that.

They asphyxiate. They can't breathe. So that's how they die. So what they would do when they got ready to be done with them, if they're still alive, they'd break their legs where they couldn't push up and get a breath. And so that was, so they went out to do that because they want to wrap this thing up,

but Jesus was already dead. Of course, you remember this, you know, one of them stuck a spear in his side. It said, just, you know, water and blood flowed out of it.

And so Jesus was already dead in this moment. So they take his... Well, I was just going to say one thing before we moved on from that. I mean, because the physical world was kind of turned upside down. I mean, in that you had the curtain being ripped and you had the earthquake. But I did want to say about all that while this is going on that the spiritual world was turned upside down too. We just are not privy to what's going on. And look, there's tons of great ideas.

on what this does mean out there in religious land as far as different opinions and scholars. But I just think that, what about all the people who were dead, all these spirits? Because to God, all are alive. We read that in the analogy when they said, what if the woman is married seven times? Remember he got down and he said to God all our life?

So that whole world was turned up down in a positive because of Jesus's death, beryl, and resurrection. So why is it shocking that some were resurrected at that point? I mean, I don't, we don't know what God was thinking 2,000 years ago because he's not bound by time. But no matter what you come up with, it's exciting. Yeah.

And you're right, the spiritual forces, both good and evil. I mean, this was like the biggest theater going in this moment because he was Jesus. Well, exactly. I mean, I'll give you another question. Now, why were... Hey, let's take a break then. Why were these demon-possessed guys hanging around in a graveyard? Yeah.

I mean, you know, there's a couple of stories where they were chained. One of them had him chained in a cave at a cemetery. Well, I don't even need to know this story to realize there's something about dead spirits and demon possession and a connection. and a connection there when you have multiple stories about people acting crazy in a cemetery and having to be confined. I mean, and then here's Jesus having the power to do that.

Plus, how many times over the course of the four gospels is for three straight years, every time Jesus goes into a new village, you know, it says he heal people, he cast out demon. So, I mean, there was so much demonic activity going on to your point.

every city he went into he's like you know he's casting this one out in fact we talked about the marries you could find it in every city today correct that's why i don't knock these different nationalities view of death you know some like in the the native american world you know there's certain things and certain rituals were meant for the death and you know you have these there's not a western that goes by that you don't you know they wouldn't even walk through the burial ground with all this. Yeah. Well, that's real.

I mean, that's coming from a place of we realize that just because your body's dead, it's not over. Yeah, that's right. And Jesus is the only one who had the power to address that world. And I think that gives me comfort to know that I don't know how many people there have been on the earth since the beginning of the time, but it's a big number. and when I die, we tend to as humans think, well, nobody's going to remember me or I'm lost or I'm, I mean, based on what I'm reading, God is fully aware of every person dead or alive. Oh, yeah.

And you think about it. This is a movie. How many movies have been made about this idea about people coming back? Remember, poltergeist, it was a big hit because they had built the subdivision on top of an old Indian barrel ground. So they sucked the little girl in through the TV. Yeah. Remember it? And then that's coming out of the ground.

And, you know, of course, they're casting out. Well, you remember Eastwood, you know, he rode into town. And he made them all, he took all the people that were insignificant and put them in charge. Yeah. And painted the whole town red. And put hell on it. And put hell on it. And then they had a big gunfight.

And all the people with bad hearts got. got killed and then he rode off and disappeared you know he came back from the dead the whole movie that's what it was about they just made it spirit of the old guy they had killed and then he came back as a bad dude because we all have a sense of there's something going on here and you didn't have to read the bible to get that sense it's just the nature of being a human and where did all of this come from in each and every different culture. They all have their certain thoughts on it. But I'll tell you this, of all the stuff I've read, seen, and respect other people's

view of it, I like what the Bible tells me about how Jesus viewed it the best. I mean, if you just look at this as a story, to me, this makes the most sense. It does. No doubt. And I think about that movie, Jay's, the name of that was so, so we ever come up with that, high plains drifter. The idea is we don't know who this guy is,

but he's coming from some higher plane somewhere when he rolled into seaside. And the last tombstone when they rode by, it was that guy that they had horsewipped to death up there in the street. Yeah, it was actually him.

He just came back. He just came back and made things right. That's pretty good. So in verse 57, they take his body down and there's a guy, Joseph of Arimathea. And if you read all the other Gospels, you kind of put all the puzzle together on who he was.

He was a member of the High Council, which meant he was a part of the Sanhedron. But then one of the books says that, of course, he didn't agree with what they did, because secretly he was a follower of Jesus. And so he went to Pilate. He asked for Jesus' body. Pilate says it can be given to him. Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, placed it in his own new tomb, he was a rich man that he had cut out of the rock he rolled a big stone in front of the entrance

and there were the marries and then we know from john 18 that palat i mean um pontchid nicodemus was with joseph of arimathea and he was remembered the pharisee that jesus had talked to which is really an awesome transformation talking about transformation of someone's life it didn't share how it happened he meets jesus at night in the early chapters of John in chapter 3. And now here he is trying to take care of Jesus' body in the end, which would be embarrassing for him. Well, it's against the law.

I mean, like, in his position, you wouldn't go anywhere near a dead body. I mean, that makes you unclean. Exactly. Claiming to be the son of guy. What I love about, Jace, is these two guys have been a part of the whole thing. But in their hearts, they've really come to faith in Jesus and who he says he was. And now they're coming out because when they did this, there's no going back. You know what I'm saying?

I mean, they literally had to cross over to do what they did. And they're saying, you know, you don't read about them once you get to Acts, but I've always been curious as to what happened to them, you know, because that was a bold move. I mean, I think they probably became warriors for Jesus. I think so, too. They probably were murdered. however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or the rulers

of this age who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom in the death, burial, resurrection of Jesus, which we're looking at, a wisdom that has been hidden. No one had ever tried this before and got away with it, but Jesus did. It's been hidden. That God destined for our glory before time began, all this worked out in advance. None of the rulers of this age, I think it's the political people and the authorities and the people at the Sanhedra. None of those people understood it,

Jesus dying, being buried and raised from the death. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory. And he goes on and says, no eye has it's written, no eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has consistent. see what God has prepared for those who love him, but God has revealed it to us by his spirit, which is Jason's point, who wrote this down. All the writers wrote what the spirit, with the spirits help to put down, here's what you say about this, here's what you say about that on and on and on and on the goes, you know.

Right. Let's take our last break. It's a pretty wild story. It's wild. But, you know, it's really interesting because only Matthew, mentions this next section. And none of the other three Gospels mentioned this, which I find fascinating. Because this was a pretty big deal.

It says the next day, the one after preparation day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to pilot. So we're getting this little behind the scenes. Sir, they said, we remember that while he was still alive, that deceiver, which I thought, that's the narrative they're painting now. He said, after three days, I will rise again. So they got that. right i mean they heard that so give the order for the tomb to be made secure until the third day otherwise his disciples may come and steal the body and tell the people that he's been raised from the dead this last deception will be worse than the first so pilas says take a guard

go make the tomb as secure as you know how which i found that a funny phrase it's almost like to me he's saying good luck with that but he says it's secure as you know how so they went and made the tomb secure by putting a Roman seal on the stone, which meant if you, if you went and messed with this thing, you were going against the Roman government. Yeah. So, but I found that fascinating because, number one, they knew what he said, but they were so steeped in their disbelief that they still thought they could control this situation. And they thought, well, they're going to go steal. We're never going to be rid of this guy. Yeah.

Which, you know, I thought if he really was who he said he was, you're not able to keep him in the ground. No. You see what I'm saying? But it shows you how people are. They still thought they could control the narrative. They've killed him. But that's not enough. Now we've got to make sure he stays dead.

That's right. And then nobody claims he came back to the time. So they were a little shaky at best. They were very shaky. And so, you know, it's like, I find it fascinating. It's the same thing we talked about earlier, how governments work. So somebody might have told him. hey, he pulled it off.

Right. So when the angel shows up, there's another earthquake, an angel shows up, and the angels said he rolled the stone away. And sat on it. And sat on it. I like it. How do it do? It's almost like, because you remember what Jesus said, I could call legions of angels.

That's why. It only took one. Yeah, that's why, Al, that Acts 1 mentions, when Luke wrote that, he makes sure he said he spent 40 days convincing them that he was alive. Right. I mean, he just didn't hit the road. He made sure he appeared to one and another and this one and that one. He made it around.

It wasn't just word. No. Hey, I heard something. Yeah, that's right. Well, you remember, too. Showing them the scars. That's right. You got a lot of that road to Amas and Luke 24.

Oh, yeah. Well, even when you read these stories, I mean, chapter 28 when the angel that says he is not here in verse six. He has risen just as he said, come and see the place where he lay. It always reminded me of when Nathaniel was like trying to warm up to Jesus. And then they said he was from Nazareth, you know, and John 1 and his brother. So just come and see. I mean, and I think this is the same kind of thing here. I mean, when you bury a body back. in and roll the rock where it's not intended to be. That's right.

I mean, this is before dynamite, you know, this is over. It's going to take a lot of people to roll that away or one angel. But it says he looked like that. His appearance was like lightning and his clothes were white as snow. So this guy had the literal, I mean, he looked like lightning. You know you've seen lightning and flash. You have to close your eyes when it flashes. It's so bright.

But that's what this guy looked like, this, this now sitting. the tomb. The guards were so afraid that they shook and became like dead men. So they just, they went into some sort of a cosmic coma. It was too much to bear. That's right. So much, so much for secure it as best as you know how. Yeah. Because, you know, all it takes is one angel to show up. Well, don't Doc Conardinay said they're just more than he could bear. More than he could bear. But listen, listen what happens though. So the women are on their way. They've, they've now seen him. Some of the guards went to the city. reported to the chief priest everything that had happened.

So they went and told them that there was some guy or some being that looked like lightning and they passed out and this guy rolled the, they tell them what happened. You know they did. The chief priest met with the elders to devise a plan. The plan is over. I mean, the plan are to be, we need to find out who this guy really is and follow it. Well, that's why they came up with that the body must be stolen. Right.

Of course, our breach did come when Peter, who had the keys to the kingdom given to him by Jesus, and he pretty well told him, you with the help of wicked men, you put him to death by dating him to a cross. You were there. Y'all saw the miracles. And now, you know, he's both the Lord and Savior. He's the Messiah. And then they all were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. They were cut to the heart.

They said, what do we do? Yeah. Because they're hung there. Right. Well, that's the first time you see a turnaround of any of those people's minds. Right. It's when the spirit came like a hurricane and everybody was looking around like what in the world is going on here. And then Peter said, you're the guilty ones.

You kill him. Use the word, though. How wicked are these people? Because they know the truth. Yep. So they give the soldiers money and they said, here's what you do. you were to say his disciples came during the night and stole him away while you were asleep. So they're just flat out line to protect the thing. If this report skits to the governor,

we'll satisfy him and keep you out of trouble. I thought, yeah, right, just like they did Judas, right? Yeah. So the soldiers took the money, did as they were instructed, and this story has been widely circulated even to this very day, which is why I think Matthew puts it in his gospel, because remember, he was the one worn in the Jews. Even our governor way back when governor Now, what was the one, about the third third one back? D.W.E. Yeah. Yeah, the one that was in prison, they put him.

Edwards. Yeah, Edwards. He said, he fainted. Yeah. He just fainted. Yeah. You know, after reading all this, he said, no, no, Jesus. He didn't, he wasn't raised.

He just fainted. Yeah. He swooned. Yeah, yeah. He swooned. Of course, he had reasons to not want to believe in Jesus because he also said, the only way he would lose this election is if he was caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. Yeah.

That's how wicked. Yeah. EW.E was. Yep. By the way. He said that in a campaign in public. It's very disturbing. But my point is, they're still devising the plan.

I think Matthew puts it in his gospel because he's basically telling a Jewish audience, you got duped by these people. You know, he's giving them a warning because he knows Matthew 24, you know, this coming. 80s 70s coming. So, look, you got a few years to get this thing worked out. if you go by the story that the disciples stole him away when you know better, you're going to pay the price for it. I mean, I think they did.

And they did. Well, from God's perspective, they hear this, all the his followers, and they're getting a plan. You know, he went ahead to Galilee. Oh, let's go. The women are running. You know, let's go tell everybody. And then all of a sudden, Jesus appears in verse 9 and says, greetings.

I just think, you know, can you imagine? One of them, it says, peace, be with you. Like, okay, settle down, boys. I mean, to us to translate it, be howdy. That's right. Settle down. Because, I mean, they're about a ruckus. They came to, clasp his feet and worshipped him

because you can imagine they were just like, and I think then all those times he said, I'll be back in three days. days, all of a sudden the dots are connecting. This is a being not from this place. We can't kill him. He'll die, but he's standing there talking three days later. I mean, you're behind a locked door, and you look up and he's in the room with you.

Yeah. I mean, whoo-hoo. But you wonder why all these men and women had such boldness from this point forward to their life. And would all, most of them be killed? They went to their death, not even looking back. Which I've said a hundred times, you know. It's what's different than other movements and religions, because these people would have known that this was all just a joke.

Right. But they all went to their deathbed in the name of Jesus because they were like, we'd rather be dead than deny him, because he came back. This is not a problem. And it's almost like they didn't fear death anymore. They did. Like they thought we'll be resurrected.

On that note, which is why we get to the Great Commission, and when Jesus said, because again, verse 17 is another worship, when they saw him, they worshipped him. But some doubted. And this still happening today. Oh, yeah. And they saw it. And they still doubted. So when people say, I'm struggling with doubts, I'm like, yeah, tell me about it.

It happens. Life is tough. That's right. But Jesus took all the pressure off us and says all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. I mean, that doesn't leave any for us. Go make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I commanded you, which I would think this would be included. I do this.

I do this all the time for that very reason. And I'm with you. I got my orders from headquarters right there. Right there. And I love the way the last sentence. It says that I'm with you always. To the very end of the eight, I'm here. I'm here.

Whatever age it is, we're here. You said, I thought he left. No, he's here. He's here. All right, we'll pick it up next time. Pretty cool. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes.

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