Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 415 | When Facebook Tried to Cancel Phil & Jase Finds Out He Was Wrong

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

Phil and Al are reminded of the time Phil was canceled by Facebook for showing things the platform found unsuitable. Jase finds out that he was once, in fact, wrong. Phil discusses the notes that Miss... Kay leaves for him and their significance. Jase and Al discuss how we are the building of God on Earth, and thus we don't need physical structures to carry out his work. And Jase shares his “most cricket” sermon that left many people confused. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed https://philrobertson.substack.com — Read two FREE chapters of Uncanceled by Phil Robertson - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So today, finally, I've got the green light to talk a little bit about a couple of new format things we're going to be doing for Unashamed and also to sort of do a proper farewell to add to in the woods with Phil. You can kind of tell because we've been talking about it as if it's in the past because it is. We haven't filmed any episodes for that since last year back in November. remember, but we did 800 episodes of In the Woods with Phil on Blaze TV over four years. Wow. So 200 episodes a year, which is pretty amazing. And looking back over it, I mean, we've had several different crews, some that started
Starting point is 00:00:44 with us that weren't there at the end and we had some guys at the end. I just want to say to all our crew how great they did. Dad mentioned before on the podcast that they said and we said about them. We never had an issue or crossword in four years on a production set. Not one. That's hard to do, Jay's. I mean, we had a show. You're doing a show.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I mean, that's not easy to do that. But that was the relationship that we had. And dad, I thought it was really interesting because it was a video blog, a vlog format, which I'd never heard of four years ago. And so I had to go and research, what is a vlog? And so I started looking at other people that were doing it. And it was eight to 12 minute episodes of basically you in the woods. And sometimes it was you in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Sometimes it was you in your chair. But it was just centric on you living your life and kind of what you impart to people. But I know a lot of people love it. I know a lot of you have been asking about it. Is it coming back? You know, what's the story with it? But that show has ended. And it was great.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We loved it. So what we're doing now, for those of you subscribe, and we want more of you to subscribe to Blaze TV, because they're the platform that allows us to do this podcast. And let me tell you something. These guys in the world we're living in now with YouTube, with Facebook. I mean, censorship is a real situation.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Dad was censored twice on In the Woods for cleaning game. I mean, twice they were like, this is too graphic for viewers, you know, discretion advised. I was showing them how to pluck a duck, and they were saying you can't pluck a duck because that's violent. I said, well, I said, there's a lot of chicken in the supermarkets and on every street corner, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken. I said, somebody, you need to get the feathers off. before you find. I don't remember seeing any chicken on the eye. He's frying with the feathers on them.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I talked to the who's their old guy, the head of the deal of one of the guys, you know, on Facebook, what's your name? Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg. I gave Zuckerberg about a 15-minute speech. And I'm sure. I'm sure you heard it. During my speech, I said things like Zuckerberg, are you completely crazy?
Starting point is 00:02:51 I said, you can't, you have to get the feathers off birds. There's millions of tons, metric tons. Phil, I'm sure he heard of it. What's your first turn. Was to get out and get a little sun because he was looking a little pasty. Here's probably what happened. Stay in front of a computer for years and your skin color begins to evaporate. One of the assistants at Facebook probably took a snapshot of you, a picture of you,
Starting point is 00:03:20 and then put a caption, this guy called you crazy. And it probably went around to all the Facebook employees. They probably had a big life. Yeah, they probably do. Christmas cards, you know. So here's what we're going to do. We're super excited about this. We are going to have some content for you to go on the Blaze TV.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And so I want to tell you how you can join, how you can subscribe. You go to BlazeTV.com slash Unashamed. And so until February the 7th, you can use the code more unashamed. That's M-O-R-E-unashamed. You get $15 off your one-year subscription, which is really cool. And we've got what now we're calling unashamed overtime. So at the end of every podcast that we're doing, we're going to have a bonus segment. I call it Unashamed O-T.
Starting point is 00:04:16 We're going to have a little overtime. And we're going to put in another thought that, you know, because there's always stuff we could talk about. We have to stop because we're going to stop because we're. like, when we look at the clock, it's like, okay, the episode's over. But there's usually a little more in the tank. So we're going to provide that, and we're going to do it on this platform. So if you sign up for blazedtv. Dot com slash unashamed, and if you use this until February 7th, you say 15 bucks
Starting point is 00:04:39 off the subscription, you're going to be able to get that bonus. And so you go behind the unashamed to be able to do that on Blaze TV. When are we starting that? We're starting this today. Oh. So we got bonus coming today, Jay, just at the end of. of this podcast. So I'll mention it again at the end. So you'll know, this, this is the first time I've heard of this. It's news. It's news to you. Are you? Huh? It's news to you. It's news to me.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Okay. Is it good news? I don't know. You know, dad, I don't know if you knows this. On this podcast, on this podcast, your role is not really to do the mechanics. You're kind of like that. You just show up with your Bible to be filled. I just think it's up to the individual. for him to decide whether it's worth hearing or not. That's exactly right. This is bonus material. This is bonus material.
Starting point is 00:05:33 That's what I'm saying. It'll be up to the people who hear. There you go. If it's worth going to sign up, you'll sign up. But I think you'll enjoy it because it's going to be really good. But anyway, so proper farewell to In the Woods. It was a lot of fun to do for four years. Now we're shifting gears into this podcast because, let's face it,
Starting point is 00:05:51 we're having a lot of impact in a lot of lives. And so we see that. We see a lot of you, a lot of you travel here. Every Sunday I meet some of you, Unashamed Nation. I will say this. At no time during the four-year period with the 800 episodes, which is all new to me, did we say, let's do that again? Or why don't you say this time, not once. Did we ever say, Phil, let's do this again?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Let's go back over this point. because you, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just, it was what it was. Well, I'll say this. One shot deal. Take it a leave. You were pretty good, one take one. And a 400 plus podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I don't think we've ever said, hey, let's stop and do that again. Well, that's right. That's right. Well, we kind of made a decision early on when the dogs were barking or the tree frogs are in the room or all the different things that we were going to give it to you as it happens. So if something crazy happens, if a was come, out of this ceiling, which is... Plus, we could be wrong on certain topics and all that. Well,
Starting point is 00:06:58 it's fine with me for somebody to say, look, let me remind you, you missed this when you were wrong. I would say, yeah. Oh, trust me, you don't get the emails, Dad. There's a lot of people disagree with different things we say, but that's okay, because that's what discussing the Bible is all about. You know, I don't have a cell phone or anything, so I'm not... Breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news. I have probably been way off on a number of issues throughout the course of this event, I'm not checking to see what they're saying. It's my point. Well, we're laughing, but I mean, I'm trying to get it right.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I have the spirit of God, but that's part of who we are when you do a lot of talking. Sometimes you just get it wrong. Well, the interesting thing about studying the Bible is that over the course of your life, you know, the Bible is truth. It's absolute truth. But we change and things in our mind. We get something in our mind that's so strong. And then later on, we go back to a text and we say, you know what, I think I missed that.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I think I missed that thought. I tend to, I mean, look, we just read a verse where in First Corinthians at some point we read it, and we'll read it again, where he was trying to get them to agree. Where was that at, Al, off the top of your head? He said, I appeal. Oh, it's in 10. It's verse 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you. Now, you can take that and start straining that statement. Now, we know what his point was. What was their disagreement? Well, some of them were following whoever was baptizing in them. Baptizing them. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I mean, that was the context of this. Well, a lot of people, they made an issue out of the Apostle Paul saying, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else when he talked about, I didn't come here to baptize but to preach the gospel. And when he says, and McGregan brought this up, he said, I don't remember if I baptize. They said, well, he couldn't have been speaking of the power of the spirit because the spirit would have made sure he remembered.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That's actually a pretty good point. That's a good point. But McGregard's point was it's not crucial. There's nothing crucial about it. this. Right. On whether he had the power to speak by the spirit, if he said, look, you know, I don't know exactly, I don't remember. I don't know who. Because some of them said, yeah, he's not a inspired man at all because he couldn't remember it. Well, let's test it. You have the Holy Spirit of God. I have the Holy Spirit. How good is your memory? I don't know, but some things I
Starting point is 00:09:36 have forgotten. That's for sure. Me too. Well, that's what I was going. I was going to make the point, which was a good point. Well, the point is... I mean, some of them were demanding the people at Corinth were demanding you make a mistake with your dialogue and you're out. Yeah, but it's almost like... It's kind of like today with today's culture. What are we agreeing on here?
Starting point is 00:09:59 I mean, I'm agreeing that God is always right, that Jesus is Lord. I'm agreeing with that 100%. We have the Holy Spirit of God given by God that's running this show. And I mean, me individually. And my heart is right. I'm trying to pursue what is right and do what God wants me to do. And in your life, go back. Can you remember everybody?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Or ask me, can you remember everybody you baptized, Phil? I'm like, are you kidding? But look, it's the idea of. People show up 20 years. And they remember you're baptized? And I'm like, yeah, yeah. But what I loved about this statement, the way it's thrown in there, is it's just like any of us has that moment where somebody's,
Starting point is 00:10:43 He says, yeah, but what about? It's like the, remember and O'Brother were out there when they baptized Delmer? And he said, I've been, all my sins are washed away. And even that bank I robbed in Yazoo City. He said, I thought you said, you didn't rob that bank. He said, well, I lied, and I've been forgiven of that too. But since the idea of, as we have an actor thought, like, he's like, I'm glad I didn't baptize.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Well, same for this on that one. Oh, I know you're going to say this guy. Yeah, maybe him too. I mean, that's exactly. That's real life is what I like. like about it. It's authenticity. But too, when you're trying to communicate, look, I'm, I'm friends with Mr. McGuigan. He's helped me, been one of my mentors. You know, he's one of the few scholars that, I mean, I stop and listen when he says something. And he sent me a message
Starting point is 00:11:29 one time, and I couldn't even remember the conversation. But in a nice, loving way, he was like, Jace, you got Galatians completely wrong. You butchered that. And then when he put down, you know, what I should have said, I was. like the fact that I agree with everything you're saying means either was I did a terrible job communicating or I just got off on something because I was like I don't disagree with anything you're saying I'm on your team. That way you fell or so that just made me realize that sometimes it's an articulation problem you know we were doing that ad about you know where Lisa's going to speak yep on the
Starting point is 00:12:13 on the 40 days for life. A lot of times, it's not necessarily how we think or what we believe, but it's just the way we're going about articulating our position. That's right. And I think I get that wrong more than anything because it's just sometimes it's difficult with certain subjects. And McGreg was kind of saying that he thought, and I think he was right,
Starting point is 00:12:36 that the Apostle Paul did not want to come in there and play like he's the big dog, the big know-it-all. He just, he came with fear and trembling. He told him that. And then he, on the text about, you know, I didn't remember. Yeah. And he said, I didn't come with eloquence or superior wisdom. Although he was a very smart man.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah. He just wanted to know. He plays down his apostleship for some degrees. But the last thing he wanted was somebody to say, I follow Paul instead of saying, I follow Christ. That's right. That's the ultimate. Would you all want that? That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:10 If somebody came to me and said, I just want you to know, Al, that I'm following you. I've been, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, we've read. Only follow me as I follow the example of crime. You know, we've read what the Apostle Paul had to say in a lot of these epistles, and I can see how he would kind of watch, be careful about coming on too strong because, you know, you'll have a Paulite there. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He didn't want any Paulites. No. So. Or Cephasites. But don't you think this is the biggest problem with Bible study? Look, you got how many, up to 41 authors over a span of hundreds of, hundreds, not thousands of years. And so as Christians, we take this big book that this is woven through history.
Starting point is 00:13:53 So it's not like it's like any other book. And then we start doing verse by verse studies and people get so caught up in one verse at a time that the big picture gets muddled, gets lost. I mean, I sense that in his letter to the Christian. Corinthians, he was trying to get them back to the big picture, and we know that's true, because when he gets to 1st, Corinthians 15, he reminds them of the gospel. And he's like, I don't want to know anything, but Christ and him crucified. Well, if you just take that on its own and say that, people are like, well, there's way more
Starting point is 00:14:31 to it than that. Well, it's not if you miss that. If you don't have that down first, you'll miss the rest. Let's take a break. No, you're exactly right, Jay. A lot of that is style that's been used to teach you and taking things out of context, where you just go and cherry pick a verse over here and a verse over there and a verse over here. And then you say, well, like, here's my point that I want to make.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Now, I study all over the Bible when I'm teaching and preaching, but it's got to be within the context of what it was said then and what it says now. But we do it out, given even lessons. We'll quote a verse to support a point that we came up, which is back to my point of getting it wrong sometimes. articulation. And that verse that we say sounds good and sounds right in our point, but really it has nothing to do with whatever point we were making. It just kind of had a beginning, a middle, and an end that was a nice button. Right. You know? That's true. And so,
Starting point is 00:15:32 now granted, you say, well, what are we supposed to do? The skeptic, they're always looking at like, you can only say everything within context. And it's so rigid that all of a sudden they, I think they missed the relational aspect. And the fact is that we're all human beings, we're fallible. So if that's a fundamental world truth, then by association, we're going to get some of the details wrong from time to time. And I think that was his whole point is don't get hung up on those little issues and make it a deal breaker and like, that guy got that bird's wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I'm leaving. I'm going across the river to another church. Oh, yeah. And then we go over there and it repeats itself. And you spend your whole life going from one group to another and saying nobody got it right. Well, part of that, part of that is just growth too, Jay's because, I mean, as a student of the word and a presenter of the word, I've noticed myself, as I've gotten older, I've moved away from topical teaching and preaching into just more textual stuff. just take a book, like we're doing this podcast, and present the book, because that way you get the understanding. I mean, like, we spent the last few podcasts just getting off the ground here in
Starting point is 00:16:51 1st Corinthians because obviously there's some specific messaging that Paul had for this group of people. And so we're saying, how can that relate to us? I mean, which is the bottom line, which takes me into my sermon that I preach Sunday, because what I see the first three chapters of 1st Corinthians is him making a case that unity is possible. but only by a couple of means. Because he uses the word, Josh, you read it in 10. I mean, that's perfect unity. That is a world.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I mean, if we could pull off unity, I mean, nothing is screaming in our culture more. Because I think both sides want it. Right. The Christian world and the world. There's a push for how can we be unified. So what we've talked about so far in the first two chapters is what I call the first two power source. for immunity. First one was the message of the cross, which is salvation. That's where he starts in verse 18, chapter 1. And who's on the cross? You just think, well, how does that unify humanity?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Right. How does that unify our churches, and how should that unify humanity? And by the way, that was his message across all spectrums, all of his letters. He has that same theme in everyone. And I just picked one from my sermon out of Colossians 2, verse 13. when you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code with its regulations that was against us and stood opposed to us. He has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. So there's the message of the cross. Having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumping over them by the cross. Well, I'd like to throw in another one. When we studied John,
Starting point is 00:18:40 Remember when Jesus predicted his death in John 12, and without getting into the weeds of it all, when he said in 32, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself. He said this to show the kind of death he was going to die. I mean, Jesus himself said, here's the unified draw. This is going to draw all men to myself in some capacity. So the point is that you get distracted by whatever. We talked about today. A lot of distractions people get into, a lot of division and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:19:18 especially when you put someone or something above the message of the cross. I mean, that's what was happening with these people that they were following. I mean, Peter didn't want people saying they were a follower of him. Paul didn't want it. Apollos didn't want it. And yet people are doing it. So, I mean, obviously they're getting off. Their messaging was getting off, which is.
Starting point is 00:19:38 his first point. And then the second one in chapter two, which was where you talked about a couple of podcasts ago, Jays, was the idea of the spirit of God. Yet the message of the cross, then you got the spirit that now indwells us, which is transformational. One is salvation and one is transformation. And a text that really shows again that this is across all of his books is Romans 12, which you've quoted this before, verse 1 and 2. Therefore, I urge you brothers and sisters in view of God's mercy to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God. This is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform to the pattern of the world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Then you would be able to test and prove what God's will is, is good, pleasing, and perfect will. So that's the idea of the second part of this power source, and that is, that's the ongoing nature of transformation, which, you know, goes until you die. Which goes into the point we're saying about the longer we talk, the more chance we say something stupid. Yep. Because Paul himself said in that 1st Corinthians 2-4, my message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with this demonstration of the spirit's power so that your faith might not rest on man's wisdom, but on God's power.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So you remember that contrast we mentioned before when actually. in Acts 2, the first sermon post Jesus's ascension, and the spirit is poured out, and the miraculous happened with the crowd hearing their languages from people who hadn't studied their language. And then Peter goes through in three minutes, God's scheme of redemption in Jesus, and the same message Paul was saying that he was crucified, it was implicated. it was impossible for his body to see decay. God has raised this Jesus, you know, whom you crucified, made him both Lord and Christ. So they say, what do we do?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Repent and be baptized. You know, you receive God's spirit. Well, then that next phrase that says, with many other words, he warned and persuaded them, which seems to be in contrast to what Paul is saying, because he says, my words were not with wise and persuasive words. but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power. So you said, well, is there a contrast? No. Because it was ultimately what Paul and Peter had in common was it was about the word, John 1-1,
Starting point is 00:22:16 and not his words about the word. Correct. And that's what that transformation does. It's the heart that has been pricked on who Jesus is, God calling them through Jesus. they respond they receive the spirit and then it is ultimately about who jesus is the word and even if we screw it up along the way on the details the spirit is communicating that power and then transformation happens and there one you said this before on a podcast jason in 210 it says but god is revealed by his spirit and then at the end of verse 16 he says but we have the mind of christ showing you
Starting point is 00:22:59 yet when you have the Spirit of God and it's transforming your life, that is the mind of Christ himself, living out in the Holy Spirit. So, which makes perfect sense when we studied John, remember when he told the apostles, the disciples, John 14 through 60, he said, look, unless I leave, the counselor can't come because he's going to be right, he's going to be in you. And so that's like they were near Jesus, but he said, I'm going to be in your mind. Yeah. And working.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And so that's the power. And what helps is looking at what Jesus did. I brought this up before. His life, him representing the Father in his daily life, when you tap into that in your mind, that will transform not what you do on Sundays, but your everyday life trying to have the mind of Christ on a daily basis. You have different conversations, you go different places,
Starting point is 00:23:53 your friendships all of a sudden change. I mean, the basis of them, because you're having spiritual conversations. But you're also doing it in a way like Paul did to the Corinthians. He was coming in humility, admitting his weaknesses, his challenges. And I think that's what gets us because we think, well, we can't go out there and cheer Jesus to the world because we have all this baggage and we make mistakes. And, you know, if I did that every time I said something stupid on a podcast, well, I'd just go
Starting point is 00:24:25 home and curl up in the fetal position. You know, you're going to say stupid things. You're going to do stupid things. And God's forgiveness and his grace and his fuel through the spirit uses us despite our mistakes, our weaknesses. In fact, he even takes some of our weaknesses. I mean, I've said this many times that I always had a problem with just being shy. And really the verse that kind of transform me there is.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Revelation 218, which people use it about, don't be a liar because liars go to hell. They have that little jingle. All right. So let's take another break. But you know, the first category mentioned, which is really the only time I think it's in the Bible, but it says the cowardly and the vile and the unbelieving and all liars, their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. And I just remember reading that thinking, how am I going to have the mind of Christ? and be a coward about my faith on an everyday bay. I'm not going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Good point. Because I was just the first couple of years of my Christian faith, I mean, I was young, granted, but I just was trying to keep my mouth shut and just not do wrong. But it hit me one day that I thought, I'm being a coward for Jesus. That's not going to work. And so I've got to bring my weaknesses and my mistakes and despite all that. and people say, well, you're a hypocrite. And so, yep, I've probably had hypocritical moments
Starting point is 00:26:02 because that's usually the number one defense when you start challenging someone's life about Jesus. They're like, well, you're a hypocrite. You're telling me you never sin. I mean, how many times have people used that? I was like, yep, you're right. And by the grace of God, he's using me anyway. What's it got to do with what you're doing right now?
Starting point is 00:26:19 Plus, sometimes, I know it sounds kind of strange at first, but sometimes I've learned the hard way that is sometimes you just remain silent. Just remain silent because watch. The Lord's servant must not quarrel. You say, you would have to learn before it breaks out and tell, yeah, you would know, yeah, sometimes you just, the Lord's servant must not quarrel.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful, those who oppose him and it took a while to learn this one he must gently instruct you see my point sometimes you know I mean I learned the hard way I said you know sometimes you just
Starting point is 00:27:11 just just be quiet then you know let the guy he's all fired up about something you know maybe off base but you say and I just got to be kind to this guy and just be patient and not try to jam it down him to get him all turned around here in one minute. He must gently instruct, and the hope, and your underlying reason is a beautiful thing, that God will grant them repentance because
Starting point is 00:27:38 we can't make them repent. You give them the words of the Spirit, which is a powerful thing, but it is God who grants them repentance, leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and so that, that they will come to their senses, that has to be on them and escape from the trap of the devil who's taken them captive to do his will. So it's a lot of... Excellent. You got the spirit there. You say, you're going to need him because you're wrestling against the evil one who overpowers people and just, well, you see the results. You see what I'm saying? So... That restore him gently... Sometimes just hollering alone is not going to do it. But you think about it. Transformation is all about the spirit, but the number one thing, which he's going to,
Starting point is 00:28:28 he wrote a whole chapter on it, First Grinchin, 13, on how you deal with people is love. Right. And that's one of the benefits we're getting from the transformation and the fuel. You may get it wrong a lot of times, but it's hard to get love wrong. If you just love someone and say, I'm going to be patient, yep, I'm going to trust this situation, I'm going to protect. I'm not going to get easily angered. I'm not going to be rude. I'm not going to keep a record of wrongs. Well, this is First Corinthians 13.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And somebody's wrong, but you're not going to say, okay, this is one. This is one stack against him. I got one strike against him. Let me listen to talk more. Yeah, let me write this down. If you're trying to build a stack of where he's going wrong, you just, it's not wise.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Well, try that in marriage. Just every time, you know, your wife messes up, just make a list. If you ever finds that list, you're in trouble. You made a list? Well, let me make a list. Last time I chapped in there, it doesn't say love kept a very poignant,
Starting point is 00:29:33 significant record of wrongs. Ms. Kay's got a pretty good handle on it. She'll leave me on note on the side of my chair, you know. She said, you make me complete other days. I said, you make me feel complete. She said, you're my best buddy on the earth. And I love it. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:29:50 to be in your 70s and y'all are making good lists. Yeah. Record of rights. I read that, you know. Did you see my note? I said, I read it. She went Jerry McGuire on you there. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I'm impressed. I think the reason she always sends you letters is because that's how God communicated. And she knows that got your attention. Yeah. When you were 28. Yeah. And she's like, I think I'm going to keep this letter theme going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Because she does write you a lot of notes. I mean, she could just say, hey, Phil. Almost daily. Yeah. She writes you a little note. She leaves to go to town. She's got a little assistant that goes with her now. When they're out there, you know, but she'll leave me a note there.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Say where she's being, which is going to get back when she'll say, yeah, I just want to tell you this. She wants you to know. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, that goes to people that there's different ways people communicate the best. And obviously, that's a good one for mom. She likes to write those little notes and that's important. Well, God communicated to us where he did, what he was doing and where he was headed. I've said the Bible is the greatest love letter ever written.
Starting point is 00:30:52 You know, and the approach, Peter over there that Jason alluded to earlier, when it said, let's see, Peter, he pleaded with them. Let's see, with many other words, he warned him, he pleaded with him. So he's... But my point was he was pleading with him about Jesus. Yeah. He wasn't having some. argumentative discussion about the system that they came out from under.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Save yourself from this corrupt generation. I know he probably raised his voice when he said this because I'm reading it and I'm thinking, oh, Peter was pretty fired at. But that was my point. Paul and Peter, even though they seem to be saying the exact opposite, because he was saying I wasn't trying to persuade you with wise words, Paul, they were uniting on the speech was about Jesus. The appeal was about Jesus, despite our mistakes.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Plus, and because it's all worked out because the fruit came, you know, 3,000. Pretty good lick just right out of the box. I was making the connection that Paul admitted that he was not eloquent, he wasn't persuasive, which a lot of scholars read this thing. Why is he saying this? I mean, he wrote more letters than, but when you look at what Peter did also in his past, what was his biggest problem? the words coming out of his mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, right. And being under control. So trust me, when he was warning and pleading. I feel better about words I say when I read what Peter said. That's true. Let's take another break. So back to First Corinthians. So he makes the case in one and two.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And so the way I see chapter three, when you, you know, as a speaker, Jace, we were trained. You tell him what you're going to tell them. And you tell them and then you tell them what you told them. That's kind of the idea of an introduction, a meat of a sermon. Maybe that's where I went wrong. I forgot they told me that. Yeah, that was Homilettis 101, Judge.
Starting point is 00:33:01 You missed it. That's the first time I've heard that to my knowledge. You were exercising what you said. I could have my eyes open, but I was really asleep. I said, I've never tried that. I will admit my fault right here. My biggest problem when I went through there, I was young and immature, And when they would say stuff like that, I would be thinking, I'm just going to preach Jesus and him crucified.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I'm not listening to this junk. Well, they were trying to help me. But I was immature and arrogant and thinking, you were only 18 years old. Yeah, I was like, you're looking at the trees and you're forgetting the forest. I'm going to just priest Jesus. Well, technically I was right. But the fruits of the spirit, I wasn't very loving and joy. I wasn't being patient.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I was keeping a record of wrongs. And you were not the world's greatest at peacemaker, you know, peace, patience. That was a nice way to say that I was a brawler. It's a brawler. When I'm threatening members of the staff. You don't see a lot of seminary brawlers, but that was Jay. I was like, let's just go outside. Peace and patience and goodness.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Jay's favorite verse in the New Testament was give them the right hand of fellowship. I did use that. And I thought, what did he mean by that? There's a time just to smack somebody. But you finally got your sheepskin, the paper that said, you got it. You're ready to go. So what he does, what he does, Jay's, is he's building a strong case here. And what he does in chapter three, he goes back and he restates his, what he's trying to get
Starting point is 00:34:35 him. Because he mentions their problem again. You say, I follow this one. I follow that. Anytime you see somebody repeat something in a letter, that means that, okay, here's, remember what we're talking about here. And so he gives three illustrations in chapter three. The first one he starts with in verse one, because a good speaker illustrates.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I mean, that's how you really get your points across. Jesus was the best they ever was. Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly mere infants in Christ. There's his first illustration. You're acting like babies. Yeah. Is what he says. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Indeed, you're still not ready. And then he says here, you're still worldly. He mentions three times about their worldiness. which, as you made the point before, when one of the writers says, that world and this can creep in. What are you talking about it? So he says that three times that they're worldly, and then he says two other times,
Starting point is 00:35:30 you're acting like mere men or mere humans. So that was his first illustration, is you're like babies, but I'm still trying to address you. And I always feel like when we read something like that, you know, first John 21, 15, through 17, gives a great definition of what it means to be worldly, which it says,
Starting point is 00:35:50 don't love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the father's not anything. For everything in the world, the cravings of sinful man, there was a lot of cravings and cravings and craving fulfillment going on at Corinth. They were famous for the Corinthian sickness.
Starting point is 00:36:07 The lust of his eyes, I see where we're going with this. The NFL is on its world. way with it. Nothing is done without boobs flying. You know what? I had, that is trying to watch a football game. I'd never really notice because they just put it in a second, but you kept saying that. And the last football game, I was like, feels right. They do show that. They cut a lot to the girls. They cut a lot. So you were right on that. And look, and the boasting of what he has and does. So he gave you three definitions of worldly behavior, which when you think about what
Starting point is 00:36:44 was going on there. Now, a lot of this was in the name of religion they were boasting about the God gave them these special gifts and they were like, they turned that into worldliness saying, look at what I can do. But wherever we go, those three things are always going to be a temptation, whether you're in the church or outside of it. I mean, would you agree? There's always going to be cravings to do something ungodly, or to have some kind of false fame that you think, oh, this is going to bring me success. This is, especially in the social media world, they're like, I mean, there are literally people getting up every day seeing how many people like them and they feel good about it. That's what Dan told me.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Oh, yeah. I mean, look, and if three people unfollow them, they're like, what has happened? Dan said, I've done something wrong. There's a whole group that are just wanting people to know. that they're somebody. Oh, yeah. It's all about the likes and the recognition. Well, and it's about money.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You know, I saw something the other day about TikTok. I mean, there were two girls that just get up every day in dance. And the little segment I saw, was it really in a suggestive way? They just do goofy dances. And they threw a number. I want to say 20 million. They made $20 million. Millions per year.
Starting point is 00:38:03 20 million just from people watching them do these little dances. So, I mean, how do you think they're feeling? And they wonder why I don't fool with the cell phone. So to relate that to what we're talking about in the text, he says that's not growing. And think about it, if a person, like you're hoping a person can get a job and make an impact on society, if they're sitting around watching TikTok videos of these two people dancing all day, how far is that going to extend your growth as a human being? Well, and what happens to them?
Starting point is 00:38:39 The ultimate base of nothing. Look, what happens to them when people stop watching or they get older or they spend all the money? They're going to start souping up the dance. Well, right. But at some point, guess what? The music's going to stop. That's right. And that's why this is all just driving off a cliff.
Starting point is 00:38:55 That's right. All right. So let's take another break. So he goes from that into the second illustration, which makes sense they make, he says, you're not growing, you're acting like babies, you're being worldly. Then he compares them to a plant, actually a field. He says in verse six, I planted the seed. Apollos watered it.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So he's saying that those of us who you're holding us up, we're just helping the plants grow. That's our only role. But God has been making it grow. So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God who makes things grow. The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their labor. For we are co-workers in God's service.
Starting point is 00:39:42 you are God's field. And so the idea is he's saying, God expects in a transformational process you to grow. And you don't grow by looking at the person who planted the seed in you or watered you is saying that they're a big deal. I'm seeing a common theme. God chose us and God makes things grow. There you go.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I mean, there's a common theme that's happening and this repeated use of Jesus is your Lord, which demands humility from us. Men can help, but he is explicit, but God makes it grow. God makes it grow. And so then he goes to the third illustration, and I think this is the money illustration, the big one, from nine to the end of the chapter. And that is what I call how to build a temple, because he says your God's field,
Starting point is 00:40:32 but then he says you're God's building. Oh, I love that. He's going to shift gears into, so what does a building of God look like? by the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder and someone else is building on it, but each one should be careful how he builds. To your unity theme, though,
Starting point is 00:40:51 just think about it. Here God just said, through Paul, we have a building of people from every walk of life who's done every crime under the sun. Every color, every creed, every nationality, all that. You won't unity today? here's your pat he literally made an illustration where like god makes think we're like a big plowed up
Starting point is 00:41:15 field yeah with things growing in it and i mean when you look at the field what do you see corn yeah corn is corn well some stocks are bigger some are smaller some are greener some are you're more full summer last i mean and then you have a building of people that's why i get so upset a couple podcasts ago when I was talking about, you know, let's go to the building or the house or the temple to meet God. Because I want to just say, we are the building. We're moving together, even though we're individuals as a building of God on planet Earth. That's right. Housed by the Holy Spirit.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And Jesus is the foundation. And then Paul says we're building on top of that with people. not with stone with people. In fact, Peter would use the same illustration. He would say you're like living stones being built on top of one another. Now, what's interesting is two things. One is he says, be careful how you build it. Then he gives a whole list of things that people use to build, gold, straw.
Starting point is 00:42:20 He said, look, when the fire comes, when you're tested, that'll get swept away. That's why if you put all your thing in a building, like I remember down south they hear about an hour, they just built this beautiful new big Baptist church down there. And every time I'd go down south, I'd see it. I'd say, yeah, that's a nice map to shore. And then one night it burned down. Well, they were devastated, which I understand. That was your place you met.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But I thought, well, that's what happens to stone and brick and mortar. One day it either falls in or it burns up. One big wind come by and it's gone. Or a bulldozer takes it down, but it doesn't change who the church is. That's right. You know, what's weird is I go metal detecting mainly in plowed up fields where there used to be buildings. And I'll see little pieces of brick, little pieces of glass.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Oh, there's the sign. And I'm out there. Somebody lost a silver coin. And I find it. But I'm out in the field where a building used to be. And look, and everyone has completely forgotten about that field, except me. And I'm like, if you put your faith and trust in whatever was built here, it is literally down to just, because through the years, it gets smaller and smaller and smaller.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And then look, meanwhile, they're done, because I'm not planting or watering, I'm right after they dumped the chicken fertilizer out in the field. Because they won't let me hunt once the stalks come up because they don't want me to disturb the corn, you know, but they're like, yeah, we just dumped about 118 wheeler loads full of chicken crap. Go have at it. Find your gold out in the middle of that field. brings it up. That's the fire of testing right there. Jason, I've never thought about it. You're
Starting point is 00:44:05 actually in metal detecting. Both these illustrations are right there at the forefront. They're right there. Because you got a field where things grow. But also, if you're going to find anything, you've got to be where a structure once was or there were any people there. Look, we call it trash. You find the trash, which is specs of all this stuff that he just listed. But I mean, look, I'm not putting my faith and trust in the structure because I'm going where they were and there is literally, it just goes back to what it once was eventually. So he says, Jason, you're going to love this. It's not just any old building. He says in verse 16, don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple? This is huge because up until now, everybody had been about temple worship,
Starting point is 00:44:51 either the temple of Aphrodite. Big deal. Whether it was Aphrodite or the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, everybody understood temples. Yeah. And why you went there. But he says now you are that temple. And God's spirit lives in you, which, by the way, that's what makes the temple holy is because the Holy Spirit's living in it. Well, look, Al, that's why I told them when they came to me about this show. They were like, oh, you know, they kept thinking about what we're going to find. I said, no, they didn't know where I got this from. And it definitely wasn't my own mindset. But I said, always remember this.
Starting point is 00:45:22 When we're out here in forgotten land trying to find things that are lost, it's about those fellows that I'm with. that camaraderie this is something fun we do and yeah we're finding lost value and treasure and you find many illustrations where and you know luke 15 is the most famous one for god illustrated his search for humans as a woman losing a coin and searching all night till she found it i said that's what i'm getting my inspiration for but this camaraderie these guys that are alive and well we're not putting our we're not looking at over here and say, oh, I found this. What about you?
Starting point is 00:46:03 This is something fun that we're sharing together because the guys I'm with are part of a greater temple that can't be destroyed. We're bound by the love of Jesus, you know, and the Holy Spirit of God. They were just dumbfounded looking at me, which I think, whatever the name that it may be called, will illustrate that principle I shared with. That's exactly. Right. So my takeaway, at the end of my mind.
Starting point is 00:46:29 sermon because at the end you always got to have a takeaway. So I use what Paul said in 1st, Corinthians 3, 18 through 23. He had four thoughts. One, don't deceive yourself, he said, which is really interesting how easy it is for us to deceive ourselves by not doing what he called us to do. Then he said, if you think you are wise, become a fool. You think about that one. If you think you're a big deal, Paul said the best thing you can do is just become a fool. well as it relates to who's running this show exactly it's become a fooos so that he may become wise that's right because let's face it well explain jes you said this before who who in their right mind would follow you know by worldly wisdom would follow someone who said they triumph by surrendering
Starting point is 00:47:14 themselves to death in the worst possible way i mean right off the bat messes across that's why it's foolishest to most people are like well how do you win if you surrender but surrender is the first to understand true wisdom. Yep. Because we surrender to Christ. So when we submit ourselves to Christ, and then think about how crazy it is from a human perspective that someone says
Starting point is 00:47:36 you can be born again. They're like, how does that work? You watch them walk into a pool of water and someone grabs them and dunks them out of the water. So that makes you invincible? That gives you triumph? Deep down, you know what I've learned over the years? We all have a little Nicodemus inside of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Exactly. Because we say, now do what now? that's right exactly so the third one is don't look to humanity look to jesus because he says that repeats that again then i love the last one this is a good perfect one in this segment all things are yours whether leaders the world life death the present or the future all are yours and you are of christ and christ is of god in the end of the day it's awful it's all i mean everything everything so if you're a co-air of the universe, why am I worrying about running around here for some coin purse material? It kind of is a lot like that Romans 8 talking about the love of God. Nothing can separate
Starting point is 00:48:36 you from the love of God. All right, so here's what we got. We got the, for today, for the first time, we've got some bonus, unashamed content coming. And I'm going to tell you what it is, because, you know, one of the things that we didn't get a chance to get to there, really want to talk about. Jason alluded to it very early in the podcast. How? How do you find unity and how does finding unity among the people of God help to find unity in our culture? Because everybody is striving for it and seeking for it. How does that happen? So we're going to talk about that.
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