Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 42 | The Roast of Jase Robertson, Willie & Snake Handlers, & What Will You Be When You Grow Up?
Episode Date: January 5, 2020Phil rips Jase for his preaching appearance, we hear the funny story behind Willie getting bit by a snake on a Duck Dynasty shoot, and Jase shares what happened when he asked kids at church what they ...want to be when they grow up. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am
Unachanged
What about you?
So, Jason, I got to say
the first, last week we
recorded the podcast.
We had William Mom on, and
we talked about
the LSU game. We didn't know
what was going to happen, but the game
obviously happened, and we were
right again. We didn't really make a prediction,
but we all were pretty confident
that they were going to. Here's what's funny.
Did you expect what happened?
Well, here's, no.
I mean, here's what happened.
We're in the duck blind.
The day of the game.
And we have a guy that hunts with us.
Phil named him Burley.
Oh, yeah.
He played it, O.U.
He did.
He was a linebacker for Oklahoma.
And he said he played defensive end in high school.
And he said, well, when I got to college, they said I was too small.
I mean, this guy, how big is Burley?
I would say he is six.
26, 260 pounds.
Give a take.
I mean, he's huge.
So I don't know what the, you're too small.
But he said he was fast.
That's why he put him in a linebacker.
So we're sitting there.
So he's a big OU fan.
He's like,
so you want to put some money on the game?
And I said,
I'm not a gambler.
And he said,
well, I got 20 bucks.
It says, oh, you wins.
I said, done.
He said, I thought you.
He wasn't a gambler.
I said, well, $20 is not gambling when I know I'm going to win.
So I'll take that.
That's just $20 in your pocket.
So this morning he showed up.
He was digging in the wallet.
I mean.
It was pretty much over by halftime.
You know what?
I'm just beginning to drink the Kool-Aid here.
I mean, LSU, they just can't be stopped.
Well, and it was a, you know, now they're playing Clemson, obviously, for the whole deal.
Here was something interesting I saw today.
AJ's. So the question here in the game, can LSU stop Oklahoma's counter? Because
you know, that's been their go-to play. So Oklahoma on the counter, in games 1 through 13,
117 yards per carry on their counter, which is their base move. Against LSU,
five carries four yards, or 0.8 yards per carry. So I guess the answer was yes when you're
playing the assignment football. So it was really interesting because the offense got all
the talk, but really defensively, they play pretty solid.
Well, I don't know.
I think what stopped the counter was that it was like 28 to 7.
You know, you can't run the ball.
They were scoring at just an incredible rate.
Yeah, it was pretty amazing.
I thought the reason, seriously, I thought the reason LSU dominated is our offensive
line and defensive line, they were just dominant.
in hurts his defense.
He didn't have any time.
Had dad, you've watched a lot of football,
you play college football,
have you ever seen an offensive performance
that LSU put on the first half of that game
in any college game?
Never.
Especially at a high level.
I mean, maybe if you're playing somebody,
you know, some low level.
Phil said, I've been thinking Burrow was just getting lucky,
but after a while, maybe luck.
Earlier in his career at LSU, I said,
man, that was a lucky throw to get that.
Right.
But after he...
Until he kept making lucky throw?
Well, he repeatedly did it.
I said, that's too many throws to be luck.
Yeah.
It's more than luck.
Well, you know what it is.
It looks like he's lucky.
Here's what it reminds me of that.
He's a pro quarterback because he's putting ball in tight back shoulder windows
that you only see at the pro level.
You just don't see at the cause level.
So I think he became...
And by the way, before we leave the topic,
Troy, who's my buddy, one of my buddies from Tulsa,
who was bold enough to send me the boomer sooner text before the game.
I just want to say that, you know, I appreciate that text
and glad it worked out.
To show you how things have worked out in my day in the 60s,
I was playing against so people will know him.
They'll probably remember him.
Kenny the Snake Stabler.
I was playing for Tech.
He was playing for Alabama.
They went undefeated at year.
but so everyone will know if I threw the ball
at one of my receivers on his back shoulder
he would come back grabbing
he said you got to leave me man he got to lead me
it would never have entered his mind
I can stop and catch this ball
because he said that quarterback field
what's wrong with him he's throwing it behind me
I mean stopping and catching it was out of the question
you got to lead me you see what I'm saying
yeah yeah that's the defensive back right on him
so I'm throwing a little behind him so he can stop
catch a ball. But they were like,
what are you doing? So the problem is, because I
watched a couple of your games. There was no
throw behind the shoulder's up. When you lead a guy,
there's a linebacker there. That's the problem.
You know, the only way you throw a guy
open a space by the show. I tried it a few times, but they just
kept running and say, oh, what are you doing?
The back shoulder throw is unstoppable. It's unstoppable.
You can't defend it because you can be fully covered
and still make the play. But that was unknown
in my world of the 60s
as a quarterback. No one ever
voiced
behind the shoulder or whatever. Why they
call it? Yeah, back shoulder. Yeah, back shoulder. There was no such thing. And I have to say,
Dad, because I've seen you, I watched the game against Alabama, and your release was incredible.
I mean, Bradshaw has said it through the years, but nobody really knew that the film is so old.
They just thought he's trying to be nice. Oh, exactly. He's just being nice. You know,
that'll go. You had a quick, amazing release. I just couldn't get past the ducks. Yeah, exactly.
You just didn't love it. And I don't mean the Oregon ducks. I just couldn't get by the real ducks.
I'd rather duck hunt than play football.
Yeah, that's right.
I can't blame me.
That's what it mattered to you.
Exactly.
So something I wanted us talk about today, obviously this is kicking off our new year,
but you boys yesterday, so you ran the whole service at our church yesterday.
I think that was the first time.
I think it's the first time the inmates have ever run the asylum.
So how did that?
Well, what happened was they, I looked at the schedule because my wife and I are, you know,
we've been helping with the worship and, you know, mainly my wife, but I'm involved in it.
She has the talent, but you have the biblical knowledge.
Yeah, we do a little Bible class and, you know, I'll do lessons and then she'll energize the crowd.
We learn these new songs.
And for the first service, you know, we sing Acapello on the first service.
The second service is contemporary, but we just are involved in the first service.
What we've been doing is we took contemporary songs that you hear on the radio
that mainly are focused on Jesus of the gospel,
and we transform them into acapella songs.
So we got a little team that does that.
I mean, they are incredible.
So you got to hear that yesterday for the first time.
It's been good.
Jason was trying to be tactful when he said,
Dad, you know, we're doing the service and everything,
and get up and say a few words.
he said, but hold it to about 15 minutes.
He gave me a time limit.
He didn't want me to get too fired up about the whole thing.
So I jammed as much as I could into 15 minutes and let the chip fall away made.
So Jay's was like the woman, the White House lady, that said, keep it to a minute.
Oh, I was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, then Missy on Christmas dinner, and we were all down here eating.
And Phil said, okay, Jay's told me, you know, I got 15 minutes.
And she said, no, he got 30.
And I said, no, he doesn't.
So then we were yipping, you know, Phil left bewildered.
I said, if you tell him 30, that's an hour.
You tell him 15, that's 30, which is basically about what happened.
He went about 25, which was perfect.
That's pretty good, that.
I do the same thing.
So what we decided to do was we planned the whole thing, and we did it because usually
on years past, you probably know this.
A lot of the families are away because it's in the holidays.
It's the last Sunday.
A lot of our staff people and elders, people at the church that know, they were all gone.
They're all gone.
So what they've done in years past is they have like a state of the church or, you know,
they have a fellow gets up.
And they just kind of talk about the year and review, year in review, I think that's what they do.
And I was like, I challenged that.
I was like, why are we doing that?
Why don't we just get all our groups together?
Because we have many groups.
We have two services.
then y'all are over right across the river on the campus.
And that works as one of our church plants across the river and the imam.
And it's been going great, but we don't get to see them much because these are.
You got to remember, we have these Bibles in front of us.
And for everyone that's listening out there in computer land, now you can, you can.
Hello, computer land.
Yeah, hello, computer land.
That's the closest I have.
I get to a computer.
But it is worth noting that I have this Bible lying in front of.
me, and we all do.
But the whole story, literally, from Genesis to Revelation, the whole Bible points people to Jesus
Christ.
It points everybody to him.
It prepares the way.
Jay's come up with a good little rift.
Genesis through Malachi, Jesus is coming.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Jesus.
is here and acts through revelation, he's going to come back because, you know, Acts 1, he leaves.
He's coming back.
So if you look at it logically, so when I get up, no matter who I'm talking to, like a three-point
lesson plan back over in the old town, no, I'm going to give a lesson and it's going to point
people to Jesus.
Me too.
Because I'm thinking, someone says, well, what about if there's 500 or 10,000 in the crowd,
and most of them are concluding, but I already know that, that Jesus came and flesh and died on the cross with buried and raised from the dead,
went back into heaven, seated at the right hand of God, he's going to return.
I already know that.
What people fail to understand is there are people visiting are in and around you that don't know that.
So I'm speaking to the ones who have never heard that.
Faith comes from hearing the message.
So it's not long and drawn out.
The Bible points people to Jesus, so do I.
I just cut to the chase.
I don't think it stops there, though.
I think these people who say, well,
how come you're sharing the same thing over and over?
Well, that's what this is about.
I mean, to me, I want to go get fired up on Sunday morning for 90 minutes about Jesus,
who is my Lord, you know, my personal Lord.
and then the rest of the week
I'm using that energy
to share Jesus, the same Jesus
we just celebrated together
during the week. That's my
point. I'm like, if we want to teach a class,
let's have classes. We can talk about
other subjects. But for that
60 to 90 minutes together,
and we take the Lord's supper every week,
which what's that about? Well, you take some
you take a cracker. You're proclaiming
the Lord's death until he comes.
Where's that at?
I was actually going to read that yesterday.
I had that written down.
First Corinthians.
11.
12.
There's a 12.
No, First Corinthians,
11, 23 through 26.
See, I had that written now.
Yeah.
Did you do communion?
I did the communion.
Well, you were supposed to.
All right.
And Phil's brother, he died.
So we had the funeral turned out to be on Sunday.
So you drove over.
So I did.
I was going to be the welcomer.
We had all this mapped out.
because here's what happened when we went to them and said can we just do it i want to get everybody
together let's everybody get fired up for jesus because we just celebrated christmas so you have
the birth of jesus you have the new year coming up well to me we can zero in on the period
between the birth of jesus and the new year which is your opportunity through resolutions and
whatever to start again to start over so let's focus on the death barrel and resuscals
resurrection, the life, death, barrel, resurrection, you know, life of Jesus.
So they went for it. They said, okay, we all do it.
So Missy and our little team, they planned the songs.
I was going to be the welcomer.
And what I wanted to do, which I did, when I come out there, you know, LSU had just won the night before.
Everybody was fired up, you know.
There was a lot of LSU shirts, you know.
And so I was like, well, you know, I said, this is one of my favorite times a year.
This is my opening line.
sang some songs and we have our class which is about 40 to 50 people they get up we sang a song we
sang hallelujah here below which is a elevation worship song people who listen to contemporary music
they'll know what that is but you know we we just get up there and do it aquabella it's incredible
Phil said it brought a tear to his eyes so yep that that is breaking news and the reason james is back on
the lord supper someone says why when we come together as the church Jesus when he insured
instituted, implemented the Lord's supper. He took bread. After he had taken the cup, he took bread,
and broke it, gave it to him. He said, this is my body given for you, do this in remembrance of me.
Basically, don't forget, don't forget me, remember me. Every time you drink the cup, that's my blood,
and when you eat the bread, that's my body. Don't forget that. So it all comes back to Jesus and the gospel,
no matter what you're doing.
And he's doing it.
I mentioned yesterday, I said,
three ways to get it out.
You can read it, which we're doing today.
We read the scriptures.
I want to remind you of the gospel of priestage,
which you receive,
which you're standing on.
Which is 1st Corinthians 15,
which is what your lesson.
Phil zeroed in on where it says,
by this gospel, you're saying,
no, right before it says you received it
and on which you've taken your stand.
That's right.
Which was a good point,
because I hadn't thought about that.
So then he tied that in later with Ephesians 6.
I'm seeing how well I'll remember your sermon.
When it said, you know, the armor put on the armor,
which is all centered around the gospel, the feet ready,
but the gospel of peace, the belt of truth,
which Jesus is the truth.
But it says, so you can take your stand against the devil's schemes.
And then it's like when you can not all you can do, stand.
Stand.
Said it four times.
Four times in a space about like,
this, he said, you put on the full arm of God because you're done with the devil and
Jesus has delivered you from his power. So Jesus and his death, barrel, and resurrection
frees you from Satan, frees you from sin, frees you from guilt, frees you,
frees you from law, and frees you from the grave. Well, if you just look at it, you say,
so you make the decision when you come to Jesus, okay,
Jesus from now on will be my Lord.
I'm dying to sin and being buried.
You're doing it in a pool of water and being raised with it.
Therefore, put on the full armor of God.
The second thing about stand,
when the day of evil comes,
you may be able so that you'll be able to stand your ground.
There is evil.
You know you're a follower of Jesus.
You know you've given your life to him, and here comes evil.
So you'll be able to stand your ground, be armed, stand your ground,
and after you've done everything, stand, stand firm then with a belt of truth,
buckle around your waist, the word of truth, the gospel.
Your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
You're like, man, the gospel is a centerpiece of every move you make when you get right down to it.
Right.
No doubt.
And so I got up there in the plant, you know, everybody went to LSU fans.
And I said, this is my favorite time of year.
I said, it's duck season.
And actually, there was some people cheered when I said that.
Yeah.
Which was, I thought, okay.
Then we talked about LSU, big cheer.
I said, you know, we celebrated the birth of Jesus.
And the cheer was about the same as the LSU, so I rebuked them for that.
Because I thought, okay, wait a minute here.
We're fired up for the LSU.
We're in a game here with immortality tied to.
Jesus should get more.
Jesus should get more of a crap, you know, an applause.
So then I stopped everything, and I went to Luke 10, 20.
I said, you know what that reminds me out?
Jesus had given, he had sent out some of his followers,
and he gave them the power to drive out demons.
And it actually is an interesting verse.
It says, let me turn over there, because I was in the moment,
as they say in the spirit
when I read it
yeah but Luke 10 it says
his followers
he sent out the 72
and the 72 return
this is Luke 10 17 with joy
and said Lord even the demons
submit to us in your name
and Jesus replied I saw Satan
fall like lightning
from heaven and I have given you
authority to trample
on snakes and scorpions
and I stopped there because
most people when they read that, that doesn't register because that's not in their world.
But in our world, you know, there's a snake every 12 feet.
Yeah.
And I'm like, if I had that kind of power, that would be exciting.
But, Jace, you've got to remember something.
And I'll remind you a brother, Al.
Jace goes up.
He's standing on the stage.
There's a packed house of people, you know, five, six, seven hundred of them.
There's more people in there.
I've been a thousand.
I don't know. There's a lot of people. So Jase is up there, but just his appearance,
some of the more refined members of computer land out there are saying, let me get this right.
I'm looking at your son. You know, he's got still got the black face paint left from the duck hunt this morning.
And he just got a kind of, to the refined mind, Jace in their eyes would be a little bit raggedy, would be the word.
What's worse than that is you. You know, they're looking at it.
Damn, they're thinking he's your worship leader.
Okay.
You breaking down my appearance on the live computer feed, as you would say?
Well, I love the text in the Bible that says God looks at the heart, not the outside.
He looks at the heart.
I mean, you must have been pathetic, days.
What I'm saying is, my dad is breaking down my appearance, which I actually.
Didn't have camouflage on.
You know what?
I actually had this shirt on.
So I had an undershirt, so I'm like, I didn't really get dirty.
But I'm looking at Phil.
He looks like he's been rolling around with a hog and a mud hole.
Seriously, that's mud.
That is not like some kind of camouflage effect.
That's real mud.
So everyone will know, we started this gig today at 4.30 in the morning,
heading down through the woods.
And that wheeler I have was throwing mud and have a drier.
direction. So a little got scattered on me, but it's good camo.
Yeah. So anyway, I forgot what I was saying. I was reading men's...
Now, what I said was, you all were in charge yesterday. Dad brought in. Yeah, okay. But I mean,
okay, I'm sure we got a few looks. But I'm saying, here's Jesus saying, I've given you this
authority to trample on snakes and scorpions, which that was really appealing to me. I kind of
stopped and mentioned that. I was like, here we are in Louisiana every few feet. I would love to
have that gift.
Oh, would that be exciting?
I love just to go through the swamp.
Never be stung.
Grabbing snakes, you know, and looking them at the eye.
Never be snake, but never be stoned.
Well, you know, there's a group, and then a large group, there's a group mostly on the
East Coast that they try this.
They take it, you know, literal.
And so they bring in a big box of rattlers and then do a little bit of church service,
breaking out the snakes in your, in your service.
I don't fault groups for trying it.
Yeah.
The problem is they usually result in a call 911.
111. I'm just saying that look it up. So he gives them this power but look what he says. He says all
the power of the enemy nothing will harm you which that fact alone would be exciting. You know the
Jesus that we follow and submit to he has the ability and the power to give you where nothing would
harm you. Just think about that. That's the person you need to follow. Just on that one fact.
forget all the other benefits
when you take a man like Peter
commercial fisherman
he becomes a disciple of Jesus
and he wrote a couple of letters
and in one of them he said
he was describing his physical death
he said I'm going to put this tent
meaning his body
I'm going to put this tent
tent's temporary
he called his body that he was housed in
a tent
I'm going to put the tent aside, as the Lord Jesus has told me.
And he was going back to Luke when Jesus told him what kind of death he would die to glorify God.
He said, I'm going to put this tent aside.
And after my departure, I just want you to remember these things that I've written here.
Well, you just think of looking at physical death like that, J.
Not only stomping on snakes and scorpions, he said, look, it's not lights out when you die.
The connection should have been made right there that if you have the ability where a poisonous snake would not harm you or, you know, a scorpion or a thousand scorpions.
Which, by the way, in Acts 27, Paul, the Apostle Paul, he's shipwrecked, he's on an island.
They're picking up, gathering up some wood to build him a fire.
Yeah.
Poisonous snake latches onto the hand.
All the people there.
And that's one them two-minute adders, meaning you don't have a lot.
And all the people that are, all right, well, he's fixing to die.
You know, if they had a watch, they'd be looking at it.
He shook him off in the fire.
He kept gathering around there and he's, all right, boys, and he starts preaching.
And they marvel, because, you know, he had the power you were talking about.
They started saying he was God.
That's his thing.
The difference in what the Bible says and what people do to represent it, I see snake charmers and snake handlers.
There's a difference in that than being a recipient of a snake bite.
on a continual basis that will kill you,
and you're just like,
eh, that's the difference.
Yeah.
It's one thing to handle it and say you got the faith.
There's one thing to be bitten.
You remember that on Duck Dynasty?
It leaves a rugged scar because I've had some buddies
that's shown me their leg after being bitten.
Mack Owen's copperhead bit him.
Cotton mouth rots out a little more flesh.
But it's a nasty wound.
Oh, it's a bone.
I mean, it eats the flesh away.
And I just look at my dogs that have been bitten,
and that's enough for me to say,
you better watch out for the cotton mouth.
You remember that the first day of filming Dynasty,
they had to have, you know, I guess by law or whatever.
I guess I can tell this, the statute of limitations probably run out.
But they, if we were out in the wild, remember at first,
they'd have a, they'd call him an animal wrangler or whatever.
Yeah, that's what it was called.
And so this guy, we're out there.
And they're like, from South Africa, right?
No, not him.
He took over the role after the first guy.
But here was the deal.
All right.
So we get out there and we're not filming the show.
They were doing a promo for the show.
So it's not like, we're not filming an episode.
This is just, let's film a commercial for the show.
Remember we blew up a duck blind and we walked in front of that same blind.
They said, we think it'd be cool if you ought to handle some snakes.
you know, for the commercial.
So we're like, no problem, you know,
as long as they're not poisonous.
I mean, so anyway, so there's a guy,
and they, you know, there was a chicken snake they had
and, you know, they were just going to get some shots,
shots with it.
Well, this old boy, this snake Wrangler,
he comes up there with a cotton mouth, a poisonous snake.
I said, now I'm out on that.
And so it started a little argument.
Well, I looked down at all his, you know, fingers, and he only had nine.
And I said, what happened to your finger?
I interrupted the argument.
He said, well, I was, you know, somewhere in Africa and a snake bit it.
I said, I don't trust nine fingered snake wranglers.
That's out.
I'm like, this is the most ridiculous thing for your job ever.
Oh, trust me, I'm a professional.
He's got his hands up.
You lost a finger doing this.
You can trust me 10 times.
Oh, wait, nine times.
I'm like, well, that's right.
I knew right there from day one.
It was going to be a battle with it.
So look, and here's what it's funny.
The guy hands a chicken snake to Willie.
And so we're going to do the commercial.
Do you remember this?
I just remember talking about it.
No, well, you were there.
I was there.
Willie grabs the chicken snake because the guy says,
trust me, I'm a professional.
I'm like, I don't handle snakes because God hasn't given me this power yet.
I don't even matter with chicken snake.
I don't like snakes.
I don't like any snake.
So look, Willie grabs the chicken snake.
I know I'm completely off subject, but this is a hilarious story.
So the chicken snake, Willie, they're fixing to start filming.
They're like, you know, action.
We're filming the commercial, you know.
The chicken snake turns around and just on Willie's index finger.
Well, your natural instinct, which a chicken snake is harmless unless you do one thing.
If he bites your finger...
His teeth are sharp.
Well, his teeth is like an opuluses catfish.
He don't really have teeth, but if he gets his mouth around you and you pull your hand out,
it'll take all your skin with it, which is what happened to Willie.
Because it scared him, the chicken snake bit him, and he pulled his finger out.
Well, then just blood were squirting everywhere.
Ooh, great ad for the show.
Oh, yeah, they didn't run.
Look, that tape, that footage was probably burned.
And Willie's like,
He bit me.
He was looking around because when you get you bit by a snake
and then you're bleeding so profusely, he's like, you know, I'm dizzy.
You know?
I'm coming home.
Anyway, if you had this kind of power that Jesus unleashed,
then to worry about that,
to get to my point from the people hollering loudly over the LSU game
just as loudly as Jesus,
I read Luke 1020, which says,
however, Jesus said, do not rejoice that the spirit,
submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven, which was my little subtle
rebuke. I'm like, okay, we're fired up because we're from Louisiana and LSU just dominated the
game. We're fired up because we're shooting ducks. You know, we're eating good. It's the holidays.
None of that matters compared to your name being called out in heaven's role. It's always a,
I love that passage because I always envision we're all there.
Because most times you don't like having your name called,
I guess unless you buy a lot of your ticket or whatever.
And then it's a number.
But you just think you're in line or whatever vision you want to have
of when the day goes down.
And they call your name and you're like, yep, that's me, eternal life.
Here we go.
I mean, that's something that you should be joyous about.
So that was kind of the introduction.
I've never read about the promise of immortality except here.
Yeah.
Well, not having a body.
Most people believe eternity.
Somehow you're into the, you know, we join with the cosmos and then you're
energetic.
Or it's where our people of faith are right now because they're not dead because Jesus
said to him all are alive.
But they're without their body.
So they're in some kind of, you know, when they summoned, who is that Samuel from
the dead?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he was fully aware with it.
everything that was going on.
You can look that up somewhere.
First Kings.
Was it Saul?
Yeah.
Saul, King Saul.
Yeah.
And he was like, and then by the way, he said, for you disturbing me from my death,
in quotation marks, you're fixed to get the consequences of that, like you, your family
and your family's family.
So it was a bad move because they had summoned some magic arts.
So what's interesting is, so you guys, we kind of had a divide day.
y'all are basically running the things here, the worship, dad's preaching.
Yeah, because all the staff was gone.
Right.
So then I'm already in Tyler, and because our uncle, mine and Jason's uncle, dad's older brother,
only two years older than dad, has had dementia for about seven years.
And so it's just been a sharp decline, strong, man.
It reminds me a lot of dad because he could hunt and he's a great athlete and played football
with dad and you know his last few years
been tough you know because he just
he couldn't speak and all this yeah he just quit
talking I mean eventually he quit
talking then he quit eating
then he quit breathing right because your brain
literally they were saying it's kind of like your brain
just shrinks to where it will not
function so there's nothing you can do it's sad so it was tough
it was tough but at the same time I thought it was interesting
because you guys hop on a plane and fly over there
so you can get there for the funeral
jays kind of kicked it off with a
a little bit of prayer and read his obituary.
So then I'm speaking about it,
but it's right in line with what you guys were talking about,
because you're talking about challenging lives
to commit to the gospel.
And so now I have an opportunity to talk about a man
who committed his life to the gospel.
And, you know, was a very godly, very self-discipline.
I mean, like, Tommy was just the rock life all the way through.
He wasn't flamboyant.
He wasn't as much as we are.
He was more low-key and quiet.
He wasn't always out.
I think Phil would label him like a crusty brother.
That's right, exactly.
But he was, I mean, 100% faithful to God and to his wife and to his family.
And so it was a chance for us to say with a large group of people, this is what you live for.
You live for the day when somebody goes to the place you were talking about where Samuel was and everybody else that's been here and left waiting.
Yeah, a lot of people, I had mentioned that we were headed there after the,
They were like, y'all, and y'all were still speaking.
And I was thinking, this is not the end.
This is the beginning.
No, we're sad.
I mean, I got a little, you know, teary-eyed just being with my family at the funeral
because we start talking about memories.
And, you know, that's what causes you some sadness just because you're going to miss him.
You know, I mean, nobody in the, look, in this world has wrung my ears more than my uncle Tommy.
He was an infamous earring, which, by the way, that means for those of you who don't hunt.
If you shoot a shotgun within a proximity of a person's head, you wring their ears to the point where to give you a severe, terrible headache.
And lost some hearing as well.
The proper phrase for being a great duck hunter is to stay in your lane.
Bro.
I was going to believe that.
The ducks come in.
Everyone has an imaginary.
Stay in your lane, bro.
lane.
Look, some people shoot in 360 degrees, which is Tommy.
And look, by the way, Sae is reaching that point.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
Cy's becoming the new time?
Well, there's a certain age you reach where you don't give a rip.
So you're like, I'm shooting.
So when I see size gum, when it starts pointing toward me, I go down.
So Paul to the Corinthians, yesterday when we were remembering Tommy while he was on the earth
and wishing him, Godspeed, from now.
on if it's preached that Christ has been raised from the dead how can some of you say that there is no
resurrection of the dead if there's no resurrection of the dead then not even christ has been raised
he came in a human body born of a woman he had a body two feet two arms two legs he dies well
three days later he's back and if christ has not been raised our preaching is useless and so
your faith. More than that, we're to be, we're found, be to be found false witnesses about God.
We're all lying, for we've testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead, but he did
not raise him if, in fact, the dead are not raised. If the dead are not raised, then Christ has
not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile, you are still
in your sins. Not only did he remove you from sin, Satan, law, I just covered that.
then those who have fallen to sleep
but about the ones who die
and are Christians in Christ are lost
none of those made it
all the ones who have died before us
all lost if there's no resurrection
and then he says this
and it's a great text this is 1st Corinthians 15
after he preached the gospel
1 through 4 this is over about verse 19
if only for this life
we have hope in Christ
we are to be pitiful
more than all men.
If there's no resurrection,
we're a joke.
But Christ has indeed
been raised from the dead.
The first fruits of those
who have fallen asleep.
Death came through a man.
The resurrection of the dead comes through a man.
And Adam, you die, in Christ,
you got immortality.
That verse alone should be enough
to focus on Jesus
in your 90 minutes together
every Sunday morning.
We look at our culture.
And I'm thinking, if they knew what I've come to know, they wouldn't behave like they do.
Well, that's why you share it.
They really would now.
That's why you share it.
What I did, you know, after I did the welcoming, and I acknowledge Phil's group, because Phil
would never say this, you know, he's not going to throw out a bunch of stats.
But I said that, welcome them from across the river.
Some of them didn't want to come, just like some of our church didn't want to do something
difference. You always have, you know, three or four grumblers and complainers that don't want to do
anything different. We're like, we're all going to get together once a year, get some energy,
focus on Jesus so we can go back out and Phil said, oh, my crew's in, you know, about a week
later he comes, said, nope, some of them don't want to come. I was like, I know it's, you know,
because it's like, what are we're doing something different. I mean, I mean, Phil and Mr. Jace are doing
the, you know, the deal. I mean, that's what some of the young people's, I'm like, yeah, so I had all
the young people come down. They were expecting disaster. Oh yeah. They were and look we have the spirit.
We can do this. So look, I had the kids come down. I said anybody, any kid that can walk up until
the age of where it's going to embarrass you to come down here and get a, you know, a sucker.
I had bags of suckers. And so I had basically, I would say, three years, two and three year olds
up until 10 or 11 year old. Yeah. I had about 40 or 50. I mean. I had about 40 or 50. I mean.
come down. So you brought back the old Melton deal. I did. I got this from Ray
Mountain who married me and my wife and I was a great preacher. He was a he was a old
dog runner and a cat hunter. He would go. He could hunt a cat, big cats. He never shot him. He just
wanted his dogs to chase him and he was sitting in a truck and listened to him. It was kind of
hilarious. But man who loved the Lord. It was real practical and still alive today. He's awesome
man. So I said, I'm bringing it back. So I had all the kids come down. I
was a little nervous about it because I thought, you know, it's completely out of your control.
And so I gathered them all up and I said, I told them a story about when I was eight years old, my mom, your wife, asked me one day when we were in the car, she was like, when you grow up, where you want to be.
And, well, I just said, I'm going to build duck calls because that's basically what we did back then, you know.
But she said, are you going to love Jesus?
And I had just never thought about that.
Granted, I was a little kid, but for her to ask me that, I had never, you know, you all had been converted, we were going to church, but it wasn't registering.
But that question made me stop and think, am I going to love Jesus? I just didn't really have the answer.
And I thought about it a while as we were driving along, and I said, yeah, I think I will.
So I kind of, I told them that story, and I tried to simulate the same thing.
So what I did was, I said, I said, what do y'all want to be?
when you grow up.
So first one was a policeman, then it was a fireman, then it was a vet, and everybody was
all interesting, and then I was waiting on a funny one.
I figured, you know, that the crowd would appreciate, and this little girl said,
I'm going to be a princess.
So everybody laughed, you know.
And so I told them the duck call deal, you know, I blew the duck call, and then I said,
well, let me just tell you, we want you to grow up and be like Jesus.
That's why we're here.
and so I did a one, two, three, and let the crowd tell them that.
They all turned around.
I was like, when you grow up, we want you, and they all went to be like Jesus, you know.
So I gave him a sucker and they all left, you know.
What's weird about that is some of the old Jay, you know,
who's our right-hand man in the duck blind.
And my son-in-law.
Yeah, not an emotional man whatsoever.
You know, it's about, it reminds me Uncle Tommy, actually.
Yeah.
And it just kind of a, you know, works out hard guy.
go take the mountain rah-rah he come up there and he's like we gonna have tears in my eyes
i was thinking over over the sermon and he was like oh you had them kids up there you know
ask them be like jesus it got weird and his youngest kid was up there i just beaming you know
but i thought you know what sometimes when you just break it down like that the looks on those
kids faces was very inspiring because they were pondering that question and one of the kids was he
That's right. That's right. It's my grandda.
It, it, it, it's what's interesting, Jay's. I had no idea you did that, which is brilliant, by the way. We should do that more.
But you remember at the end of the funeral of my remarks when the last line I put in there, because I thought about, you know, Tommy was a grandpa.
And I thought, what would I want my grandkids to know once I was gone? I couldn't influence them anymore, you know, in this life.
because that's the one thing you miss about leaving
is you still got people left behind
you'd like the impact.
So I thought, what would it be?
And so I called out, he has four grandkids.
I called him out by name,
and one of them's in college down to a girl that's about 10.
And then there's Chad's boy that's about 12
and a teenage girl.
So I called him out by name.
It's funny because I looked down at them.
They were just sitting right there.
And they were locked in.
It was quiet in the place.
And I said, if you want to know the one thing,
they call him pops.
One thing that Pops would want you to do is to love and follow Jesus
because it's the only way that he'll be able to reconnect with you again.
And I was looking at them all, but the little boy of Chad's, I mean, he was locked in on me and he went,
he gave me the nod like, I'm in.
And so I thought about that.
I thought once you can't reach beyond the pale and influence, that's what you want more than anything else,
is your progeny, your children, your grandchildren, to trust and to listen.
It's the only chance we got.
Everyone leaves a reputation.
That's right.
Well, I wanted to share that story because I think it's a good thing to do in churches
because, you know, the audience, they were on the edge of their seat.
Although it was a little uncomfortable for me, I think it went great.
And, I mean, I thought, look, they're kids.
Well, you know, if I just have to, you know, go, hey, shut it down.
You know, because I'm an intimidate.
Shut out.
Phil, that's where my look actually helped me.
That's why I was looking so bad.
There was a couple of kids over there that wasn't paying attention.
I was, hey, you know, they're like.
So, but I got that from Luke 18 in verse 15 where it says people were also bringing children to Jesus to have him touch them.
And the disciples saw this.
They rebuked the parents for doing that.
But Jesus called the children to him and said, let the little children come to me and do not hinder them for the kingdom of God.
belongs to such as these so i i mentioned that verse when i was up there i was like we can learn a lot
just from their attitude and demeanor and it says i tell you the truth uh anyone who will not
receive the kingdom of god like a little child will never enter so i thought it was a good moment
of course then we went i went into the lord supper i made use of the of the john six which is what
i was going to say earlier when i said phil wouldn't tell you this but they've baptized almost a hundred
people over there across the river just in a less than two years i guess and they feed the homeless
and i had a john six reference because some of the ones that didn't want to come were the homeless
and we were providing a bus for them but they just they were worried about that meal because what
feel they prepare a meal and the homeless and by the way the other problem i found out later from one of
the ladies that works over there is they were worried about loading up on that bus because for a lot of
the folks that come in there when they load up on a bus they're heading to some place where they're
to lock them up.
Yeah.
You know, so it's like, hey, load up on the bus.
It's like, yeah, the last time I did that, I wound up in prison.
So no thanks.
I'm not doing that.
I didn't know that some of them wouldn't get on the bus.
They made big deal.
So look, I had this ready for the Lord's supper.
I quote, I didn't read it.
I just quoted it.
In John 6, after Jesus fed the 5,000 with the two fish and the five loaves of bread,
well, he goes across the lake.
Well, these people are trying to get at him.
And he runs up.
on them in the second well but it's the middle of john six in verse 26 he said i tell you the truth
you're looking for me not because you saw miraculous lines i mean signs but because you ate the loaves
and had your fill which was really true that it wasn't that it was a miracle it was so good
they wanted some more of it they were following him around yeah so i was going to make a kind of a funny
analogy i was trying to be funny about they were kind of griping about coming over and
because they didn't want to miss that meal, which I eventually got to verse 29, which says,
the work of God is this to believe in the one he has sent.
Because he said that in response for saying, don't work for food that spoles because they had
followed him, you know, miles trying to get after.
There's an old adage, Chase.
Yeah.
If you feed them, they will come.
They will come.
Well, and look, it was Jesus' idea.
We've done it.
Look, you remember that time we went in calls?
point over here, which is a mainly
all African American community.
Because we have some close
friends that live there, and they wanted
to reach out to their neighbors, and Phil was like,
I got an idea. Let's just have a
huge fish fry just
on the street. And
when everybody gathers up
to eat the fish, we'll preach
Jesus to them. I remember thinking,
that's not going to work. That's a Jesus move.
And look, heck if it didn't,
we got there and the whole
community. A mighty three.
wrong appeared. We had
killed hundreds of pounds of fish. Oh, I had a lot
of fish. I said, this fish fry
it'll get going, you never know. And by the way,
just so I was on Yurredale Davis.
It's an old black woman, good sister,
good woman. I was on her
porch. It's not just to the masses, just
to let the audience know, is
I have to say, we
practice it even among ourselves.
So we had our big Christmas feast this year,
Robertson Feast, and it's always amazing.
You know, we do seafood, and
it's incredible. We got all this food
laid out on the counter and so dad said hold on one minute because you know we're about
say the blessing so dad goes over and gets his Bible and comes back over and gives us a little
you know 10 minute dissertation well he gave what I didn't know was that was the dissertation
he was going to give I figured it was a highlight yeah so he kind of gave us a little
version of what was coming but what I loved about that was and I actually tweeted this dad
that I showed that picture of you as your Bible and I said before we feast on the great bounty of
being successful and having a blessing, you feast on the word of God because that's where it's at.
So I want to thank Dad for that.
You always remind us that what's the most important thing.
So we get together for Christmas, that's what it's all about.
So it was important.
So, man, that went fast.
I told you if you let it, because it was my idea, I was like, why don't we just tell
the service we did?
Because I thought people who are just not really preachers, you know, we're just, Phil and I,
we're believers we share Jesus but y'all look like preachers that's what's so
surprised yeah yeah good point you're just a three piece we don't take up a collection
for ourselves we do it for free which is okay with me you can't be a preacher if you're
doing it for free that's what way it is in America I tell everybody by that I do what
yeah I was like I know I look like a preacher yeah I got that from you and by life you
and I'm doing it for free which is there are some fringe benefits because they can't fire
you and if they're like hey shut it down you're just
just like okay so i took a picture of dad and joel ostein together in a green room last year when they
were promoting their books and so i'm i'm lining up the shot and they're there together and i said
you two are twins this is amazing and i took that picture you talk about two different looking
cats different ways of making but we had almost a thousand people show up look we focused on jesus
our team with the scene look it moved you to tears huh yeah it was awesome we did the
thing with the kids. It's a good day. We did all that and look, we had a young girl, 15 years old,
respond on the invitation and she wanted to be baptized right then, which was awesome, which was
awesome. And so, and look, you know what? Because her mom had come to the Lord, overcome some
substance abuse, you know, she worked with the Celebrate Recovery Green. In a long road. But you know,
what a response. That girl comes down. She hears Jesus, you know, Phil shared Jesus. And she's like,
I've seen this change in my mom.
And for the first time in my life,
I want to be like my mom.
Yeah.
And Jesus,
I thought that was a very touching.
It's awesome.
A confession.
So we're starting a new year as 2020.
I just want to encourage our audience.
First of all,
I want to thank you for listening,
participating,
being a part of it.
Keep sitting your questions in.
We're going to be answering those
on our future podcast as well.
And two things I wanted to give you.
One,
I met a guy,
an old friend,
funeral. They hadn't seen a few years. He lived in that area, so he came to the funeral. Didn't
really know my Uncle Tommy, but knew us and wanted to be there. And so he didn't know about the
podcast at all. So I told him about it. Well, he's already listened to several episodes just
today. He texted me. He's like, this is incredible. Why did I never hear about this? So I want
to remind you guys, if you love the podcast, if it's helping you, tell somebody else about it.
That's how you know. So word of mouth will work. So be sure and spread the word about
unashamed. And also, we're going to start a study in the book of John. We're excited about it.
We're going to be doing it at church as well as here with you guys. So I just want to give you a
assignment. This is your first assignment on the Unashamed podcast. If you really want to be where
we are, start reading the book of John because we're going to go through it. We're going to make
the case for Jesus is what we're going to do. As Jay said, we've already talked about that Genesis
through Malachi about pointing toward Christ. That's what we did last year. Touched on it. We
It is. Yeah, we didn't go too deep. And we'll revisit.
That's right. But I've always said if you want to study the Bible, it's one of the few books that I think you should start in the middle.
Yeah. John will work. That's a good one. You know, and then you go from there. You're going to go back to Genesis and you'll, you'll end up in Revelation.
We're going to spend some time talking about Jesus being here and what that means for us. So if you want to be right with us, do a little homework ahead of time. Read the book of John through a few times with us. And I think it'll enhance your listening. So anyway, thank you guys.
Thank you guys. We're going to have an awesome 2020 on Unashamed.
See you next year.
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