Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 420 | Phil's Hilarious Roast & Jase and Missy's Failed Compatibility Test

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Phil shares how to avoid a roast when you are expecting one, and Jase has discovered the greatest yoga pose of all time! Al highlights the importance of being able to laugh away calamity as a family, and Jase shares the cons of running a marriage like a business. Phil and Al weigh the pros and cons of marriage and how a man's wife can bring out his very best. And Jase tells a story about how he and his young wife failed a compatibility test. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed https://PhilRobertson.Substack.com — Read two FREE chapters of Uncanceled by Phil Robertson - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So I am coming today from Clarksville, Tennessee, which Jason is about an hour north, northwest, I guess, of your place down in Franklin. And it was really interesting, Dad, because to get here for a bit, I went on James Robertson Parkway. when I was in the Nashville area. And then I went through Robertson County is the county right before I got to this county, whatever this one is. So I felt like I'm kind of, you know,

among some of the home folks up here. I've actually looked into that. I'm thinking about going up there and metal detection. See if I can find something. I think there's a lot of our roots in Tennessee. There are. We came through here. The famous James Robertson is definitely in our lineage.

Yep. But you know what's even better, Jay's? Look, I found a, here in Clarksville, there is a black rifle coffee shop, like a store. So I'll stop by this morning. So I got my double black diamond. I mean, I really feel very, I mean, I feel like I'm there, but I'm here. That was a C.

That was a C-Lam moment. I'm here. I guess that was so earth-shattering. It just causes, you know, balls in the procedure. I looked at me like to him like. No comment. I don't know. You're drinking the same kind of coffee so you feel like you're here.

I just didn't get the connection, I guess. I'm surrounded by Robertsons. I'm drinking black rifle coffee. I met the Trenton Crossing Church of Christ. You know, it's kind of our roots and our heritage. So I spoke here last night to a group of Utes here, several hundred of them. And it was really good. They were excited about.

Of course, we had a bunch of podcast listeners. Some of them drove from Kentucky. I mean, anybody within a couple hours drove to be here yesterday when I spoke at this church. And they let me do it. So, Jace, last night, I was late to the proceedings because they had like some music groups and stuff like that. I was late to the proceedings because we got down to the fourth quarter of the Kansas City versus the Bengals. The Bengals. Yeah.

And I was so into that. I was like, you know, I know I'm late, but I can't leave. I'm not able to leave until this is up. I felt like I was watching the LSU National Championship game. I was up there, which you got to remember the chiefs. They have Clyde Edwards Hilaire and the Honey Badger. But there's something about Burrow. I mean, and look, I'm going to make a decorrection.

I made this to you on the text message. Because now you have two states rooting for Joe Burrow, because he's from Ohio. But then when he came down here, he fell in love of Louisiana. He won a nice championship with the help of the team. But I think he's a type of quarterback that makes everybody better, obviously. Something about him. But now, as this continues, this is making outside of the campus and the people involved at Ohio State University,

because this is becoming one of the dumbest people ever to let go. Whoever made the decision of where, Burrow, yeah, he ain't got it. You know what I mean? I'm like, there's an embarrassment level that is reaching. So outside of that, wherever Ohio State is, where are they at? Columbus, Columbus, Ohio. It's out of Columbus.

Everybody in Ohio and Louisiana is, pretty fired up but they're probably fired up too they're probably claiming him now yeah we trained him send him down there even though we basically started he started here they're like you can't start for us you know go find somewhere else he's like okay national championship then a couple years later i mean the bingles you got to remember two years ago they won two games yeah i mean this has been quite incredible it has just and it wasn't like i mean that defense yesterday is really what made the impact. But still, I mean, they gave up

21 points in the first half. They're at home, Kansas City. You know, my homes has only lost one other time to Tom Brady. Yeah. And then, uh-oh. So it was pretty exciting. I have to say, if they hadn't scored that late touchdown in the first half, I probably

never would have saw it because about one more score, they almost scored a half time and I was like, nah, you know, I was a little afraid of a runaway. But, man, once they scored, And then I was like, well, you never know. You know, Burrow, they came back last time. And they got a little cocky Kansas City when it's five seconds left.

They're on about the five-yard line. And they're like, no, no, one more play. Let's run this. And they threw a little screen past to that guy's real fast, heel. And they tackled him. And then all of a sudden, time out. Oh, too late. Missed that field goal.

Well, that field goal would have come in handy as it turned out. When you turned out to be the difference in the game. Well, I think momentum. You know, you can't underestimate momentum. But we had yesterday kind of signified our last Dev Duck season. And it was the first time I had gotten to go in a week. Because we're filming this little show that I really, I wish I could tell you about. But, you know, I'm not sure why I can't get into that.

I did find some humorous things. I think I can talk about this. These people come down from all over the country. And I noticed something this past week. They don't understand about gumbo mud. They don't. So I pulled up at one place and I looked and there's just a vehicle. I could tell it was theirs.

It's just in the middle of the yard just sunk. You know, they had a trailer behind it. I thought, why would they pull right there after a two-inch rain? and so then I look up and they're trying to get the vehicle out I said hey of course this is not my lane this is there I said you're going to get that one stuck too and they're all looking at me and one of the guys said well we got to try I said nope

nope it's not going to work don't do it yeah and so they went down there and they got that and stuck Well, then, you know, the person in charge around there, they had heard me say that. They're like, how did you know that when you're going to work? I was like, do you want me to go down here and give these people a tutorial on Louisiana gumbo? And they were like, please. So I went down there and I said, look, here's the deal. After a two-inch rain, you never get off the road anywhere, ever.

So number two, there's an invention in the tire world. It's called mud grips. if you don't have them, then you can't pull somebody out. Because it's not, doesn't matter how big the vehicle is, how big a motor's got. See those tires? And the one you tried to pull this one out? I was like, the tires are just sitting there spinning. The one of the guys said, I have my grips on mine.

I was like, go get yours and pull them out. Take the trailers off. So it was just a strange, you know, people just don't understand. But I wouldn't know either. I'm not getting on them. You just wouldn't know that. Well, in the middle of that, various dilemmas people fall into, your mama has a pattern.

Oh, boy. A lot of times when we go duck hunting, we're in the blind, and time is passing. So she'll get up in the morning. We all leave at 5 o'clock in the morning. We're gone. We're in the woods down here. So many a many a time when you get home about 11.30. So you left at 5 in the morning.

You're back at 11.30 and you walk in the kitchen to see what the cook came up with. And you're hungry. You're hungry now. And you're actually more hungry than normal. More hungry than normal. So I walked over there to the cabinet there. I mean, what you call the thing, where the other little stove is, It's the island?

The island is in the kitchen. I go in there. There's a note there. Like I've seen many a note located there. So I looked down and it said roast put in the oven at 845. So I look down and there's a note there. Roast is put in the oven at 845 and there was a period. That means whatever time you have.

and y'all usually roll in, usually between 11, 30, and 12. So three hours on the, what is the cooking time on a roast? About three hours. Okay. So I looked down there, I said, hey, roastery. That old stone, women, I said, let's get in on the rice in or she did. I said, I'll tell you what, let's get the roast out. We'll just see how the roast cooked.

And then we'll, you know, put any sides when they eat stone. I said, get that roast out of there. So he gets this, you know, keeps it burning your hands. you call him pot holders he goes in there and he gets he reaches in the oven he pulls out a big old thick thick thick boiler you know roasting pan so he i got a butcher knife in one hand and a fork in the other i'm just fixed to kind of cut into it well he sits it down and he reaches and he takes the lid off like this he takes the lid off presentation for those listening he's taking the lid off i'm looking Taking the lid off.

I'm looking, and for about five seconds, Stone didn't say anything, and I didn't say anything. I'm looking. Didn't turn an oven. Lo and behold, the oven was on. Oh. We took it off. No roast. There's no roast.

No roast. No roast. Just an empty pot? Empty pot, and it's hot. So it's been cooking just sitting there in the oven for three hours. At 325 degrees, three hours. So I'm looking at it. I'm speechless. I said, well, where's the meat?

So, Stahl looks at me and said, I don't get it. I said, I don't either. We're looking right. Was it like a clean black pot? Clean black pot. Oh, so she had never put it in. It's just got a lid on it and put there's nothing in the pot. So I left around. I thought maybe it evaporated. Dad, you were the opposite of Arby's.

You have no meats. I have no meat. So I'm saying, well, what could have happened? So I looked over there or if there's any more pots. I said, which one has the roast in it? So I look on the stove over here, and I picked the lid up. It's been browned. The potatoes are there.

The carrots are there. It's been brown. But it's just sitting there. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. So I'm just getting you ready when your woman gets about in her about, she's about the year behind me. When your woman gets in the 70s, make sure you check the pot before you put it in the oven. That way you get your meat in the oven.

Yeah. So what do you do there? Do you put it just in the oven now? You put it back in there and you wait another three hours before you eat. Go take a nap. Eat something to tie you out. That's a first. I've never had that one.

I've never seen that one before. Have the oven on, have the pot in the oven. but the other one is the one where the media is and this one is empty so what did mom say i mean because i called them up so i because i thought it was a pretty funny thing call them up and when i told my woman what happens she's telling the two women with her all of them you know going up in years but but uh brown you know lynn brown but when she was she was giving them what happened and every time she'd tell them something else they did I mean, they were cackling.

I mean, they laughed. So who does she blame it on? I'm sure she blamed it on one of her handlers. As Trace said, she had the roast all prepared, salt, black, pepper, browned in the oven a little bit, on a little olive oil, whatever. We had the carrots and potatoes. And she said she told Lynn to put it in the oven. Uh-oh.

Lynn picked up the wrong pot. I think I could have told by the weight. But anyway, she grabbed the wrong pot, put it in the oven, and cooked it. pot for three hours and nothing, isn't it? Well, which goes back to you have too many pots, which gets into the hoarding issues again. It happens. Well, and also at Momsay's age now, she has a lot of helpers because she's not supposed to be picking up heavy stuff. And so she's got, you know, some issues.

So every time you add in another handler, you also add in apparently the propensity for missing the vote there. The good news is not wanting to. No tempers flared over that. It was just a big lie. We all laughed. And that was about it. Well, let's take a break. I'd have to say, Dad, that especially as you've gotten older, you and mom,

that you guys have put a principle out in marriage, and you talk about it some that's really important, I think, for anybody's marriage. And that is to have a sense of humor. Because if you can't laugh at some calamities, you know, I mean, you're going to be in trouble all the time. You are correct. I'll tell you what happened.

Here's something I can tell about the filming. So Missy comes down on this trip with us, and we're all staying in this Airbnb, and we're going out to this historical place. Well, the day, let's see, yeah, she put on a pot of beans at the Airbnb in a crock pot, which is because Jeff and Jessica, they love that, and I do too. It's elevated, because she's elevated,

because she makes this spicy cornbread with it. Al, you've been over many times. Oh, yeah. Very good. I mean, it's top three meals here. Well, during the day, somehow another, they order lunch for you, these TV people, and mine got left out. I mean, everybody goes up,

because we're out in obscure places, you know. So there's, they look around, they're like, nope, looks like you got weeded out. Oh, boy. I'm going back treasure hunting. So I just take off while they're eating lunch. So I worked up an incredible hunger. So that night, I ate an obscene amount of beans and rice and cornbread.

Because, I mean, you just think I've been out there all day, I think I'd eaten a granola bar out of their little crafty thing. Well, the next day, you know, we go out there, we're hunting, and I found something. and I was, these rows in this field were really hot, and I had my knees positioned in a certain way, and I was excited about what I found. And, you know, the way we do it,

they're kind of following everybody around, and when there's a hit, you know, they come gather around you. But I'd gotten in a position that was uncomfortable, and they had some technical issue, and they were like, hang on. But the longer I sat and then, I felt like a human, one of those things, back and forth.

Like the hummingbirds, like the bird that goes in the Lord. No, a seesaw is what I was thinking. I was on this row, and I was going like a seesaw. My knees started hurting incredibly bad. And I thought, they were like, hang on, hang on. And I was like, I can't hang on here. And so when I elevated myself just to get some pressure off my knees, I'm not kidding.

It sounded like a bomb went off. because I had eaten all those beans. And I couldn't help it. It was uncontrollable. And it went on for like a long time. I mean, I'd say 45 seconds. It was a, and I kind of got tickled about it.

I've never heard a lower bowel track to last that long problem. That's why I'm saying. So I look around. Hey, Jay's, hey, Jay's dad can count on one hand. One hand all the times. You have super human power when it comes to the lower. I've never been teetering out there on a row.

I'd have just made myself comfortable. I mean, what? I tell you what, it was so, it was so crazy that I actually thought I have found there's some yoga instructor out here somewhere who would die for this positioning. Oh, yeah. Because, I mean, I have figured out a way to relieve the inner gases that have been trapped. So look, none of these people are laughing. Because they're taught.

You never, like, laugh. We weren't filming. We were waiting on a technical issue. Well, I see this body over here just. And there was actually no women around me at the time. So it wasn't like I was being rude in front of, you know, mixed company. We're all men here. And it was uncontrolling.

Yeah, I could have it. So I see one person kind of in the sitting just moving. Is the sound man? And then it hit me, I thought, can you imagine what that sounded like in his ears? And he got tickled and he just couldn't quit laughing. And I thought, and he's like 50 feet away. So he's not experiencing, well, here's what's weird. So I went back down to the position where they want him and they're like, hang on.

I'm guessing, but he was out of Los Angeles, California. I'm not sure where they're from, Phil. Oh, you can tell. He couldn't stop laughing. and so when I rose back up same thing it was just like the exact replica it's just and I thought is this have something to do with my age now when I said that everybody lost it they all and I thought it's okay to laugh and let's just stop and have a laugh but yeah I mean I don't know where I was going it's a byproduct of brown beans too many beans too many beans

That's what it was. And I got in a contorted position, and it just, there was nothing I could do about it, you know? But then when we got back home that night, well, we all laughed about that, you know, for 10 minutes. Because I thought it was embarrassing, but I couldn't help them. What kind of did? Well, the difference, I mean, I'm not, my company doesn't produce that show.

If I'm producing that show, I'm like, you run that. That was hilarious. That would have been so funny to have a lot. on the show. I mean, I realize it's lowbrow humor, but it is lowbrow, but I wasn't. It was nothing I could do about it. Well, that's what I'm saying. It was uncontrollable. And like if you heard it, you would have said there's no way someone could do that on purpose. That's why it was, but I'd been down so long, and it had just created the perfect storm. And there it went. The travails of being a sound man. Yeah, that was funny, because I thought, boy, he's got

Did you ever say something to him after, like once it was old? Oh, yeah. He's like, what did he say? He said some, you know, he made references I wasn't familiar with, but it was like, it was a C4, it sounded like a C4 explosive went off. And then it just, the echo just continued and continued and continued and continued. I was like, hey, hey, leave it to a sound guy to have a weird way to describe somebody farting. I actually said, well, you know, it was a bomb of sorts of,

Well, I was going to... Hang on, Jayes, before you go there, I wanted to mention because we will wind up in 1st Corinthians 7, but we got about a week left on our blazedtv.com slash unashamed. We're doing this new... And by the way, I talked to a lot of people up here in Tennessee. They're listening to the podcast that love it. A lot of them have subscribed,

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watch that along with all their other content so it's a good deal we encourage you to do that blazes obviously the reason we're on the air so i want to mention that go ahead jane no i was just going to say so i don't know why i get a little nervous when when missy's on the podcast or you know on the show she's coming on next week by the way so you got a week to get nervous see now how come i don't know that well because she why wouldn't she say hey i'm coming on the pocket and she doesn't say it worked I think she's wanting to surprise you. I probably ruined the surprise. Gee, it is, you did.

Well, what I was going to say is, because this chapter that we're in, I told you all before we started, this is a difficult, this is a difficult chapter for me. I found it very unusual. Let me put it that way. That when it gets to me, marriage with all the text about us being the bride of Christ, you would think out of all the, an explanation on how to behave yourself when it gets, when you have this powerful sex drive

at the younger, at the young age of 18 or 20, when marriage starts coming up, you know, as a pattern. For the matters you wrote about, how about this opening line? on the way to have a great marriage, it's good for a man not to marry. I mean, we're fixing to have a discussion of marriage, and the first thing out of the Apostle Paul's mouth is, I'm going to talk to you about marriage. You know what?

It's good for a man not to marry. Now, there's the old Dan, you know, we call him the unit because he chose not to marry, and some people thought we were making front of him or whatever, but we weren't doing that at all. We were telling Dan, I said to him, it's cheaper, it's good for a man not to make. And, of course, everybody was looking at me like, that's crazy. Think about it.

These writings are right at 2,000 years old. And a guy that's been handpicked by Jesus to preach the gospel and discuss all the matters that come up. up in the process. They're dealing with marriage. But it's good for a man not to marry. But there's so much immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman or own husband.

Then he starts going into the roles of the husband and the father. Well, let me mention. I gave a lesson on it, basically not this particular, not right here, but I would just say, and whatever happens. when you marry someone, just make sure that you're a man, she's a woman, make sure of that, and then proceed. I said, but you're going to have to learn how to roll with the punches and keep your spiritual fervor and watch yourself as far as being belligerent and all of this.

You're going to have to love your wife. I mean, a whole lot in a continuing love and a relationship. it's going to go south on you because it happens all the time. That's right. Let's take a break. So right off the bat, I mean, as far as an overview, it is an interesting text. And I know Jay says the theory he's going to tell us about. But let me mention since we're in that first verse that, and I did a little bit of,

we talked about the Greek study, but I did a little bit of look at the Greek on this because in the margin of your NIV, that same passage says it's good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman, which is a little different take than saying it's, you know, it's good for a man not to marry because then he comes back and repeats that same thought. Here's what the Greek said. Here's the exact Greek interlinear. If you just took the Greek words in there and here's what it says in the Greek, it is good for a man not to touch a woman.

So in the original language, that's what Paul said. So I think it's more relationship probably to, he's going to define sex and where it's supposed to be as opposed to the marriage. covenant itself. So it's kind of a continuation of what we talked about in chapter six and the idea is that, look, sex is designed for marriage. But to your point, Dad, Paul says later, I wish you were like me. So even though this may be a little bit different context. He's saying, I wish you didn't even have to worry about sex because you'd have a lot less to worry about. So, I mean, that theme is throughout the text, no doubt about it. And it's so much danger attached to it.

You know, in the Ten Commandments, you know, about number what, number six or seven there, you know, don't commit adultery. So. Well, I did find it interesting that Paul, who was never married, said, I wish you wouldn't marry because there's a lot of problems and a lot of headaches to deal with. But Solomon, who had a thousand wives in Proverbs 18, said, it's good for a man to marry. He who marries finds favor in the Lord. So it is an interesting take on different cultures and different ideas, even in the Bible.

And again, he's about three-fourths of the way through, Jace, in first screen. If you marry, you've not sinned. And if a virgin marry, she's not sinned. It's okay to marry. But this still stands and everybody always laughs when I read this and they say, that's not in the Bible. Those who marry will face many troubles in this life. and I want to spare you this.

He's basically saying staying single now is a good way to roll. Yeah, that's right. And again, I think the thing that just now let's do an overview of the whole chapter and Jason. By the way, that's seven,

that's seven, before we get too far down this rabbit hole, I just wanted to say I mean, this is the first phrase, which neither one of you mentioned, which I thought was interesting. because he says now for the matters you wrote about so I got the impression based on reading that that they asked questions about this asked him questions so he

stops and addressing them he addresses them but this reminded me of that what happened and you remember in Matthew 22 23 when the Sadducees came up which they said there was no resurrection and they said what about the the woman because moses had told them if your husband dies then the brother of the widow marries and now she did that what six or seven times right and then at the resurrection well whose wife should be they all they came up with the scenario to try to trap jesus from the old law saying what you know if this resurrection is going to happen how well which husband that wouldn't make any cent so there's no resurrection that was kind of their deduction and he's like what the resurrection

people will neither marry nor be given in marriage but before he said that he said you're in error because you don't know the scriptures or the power of god and i feel like the reason that reminds me of this is because they evidently after you read this chapter you realize they asked him every question under the sun about marriage. That's right. Well, what if, well, what if, because you got a member back here. They were trying to get a loophole where they could continue with sex without being married.

Well, the Epicureans, you remember that in Acts 17 or whatever, the Epicurens are mentioned in the Stoics or whatever, and that was before he got to Corinth. But, and this Gnosticism, which was they actually, there was a belief going on that you couldn't have sex with your wife. You couldn't experience the pleasure, which I think he was referring to here. Could be. But that was going on back then. Correct. Yeah.

And so, which it seems crazy. Because he says, since there's so much, yeah, it is good for a man not to marry, but since there's so much immorality, each man should have his own wife. Where was I getting that from? Oh, where it says, don't deprive each other. Yeah. Yeah, verse five, do not deprive each other. Of course, these are men's, it should be a man's favorite verse in the Bible.

Yeah. Because you go in there and like, hey, don't deprive. I mean, I'm kind of kidding, but not really. So what I was going to say is when you think about it, all the different scenarios that you could do, I keep giving the big picture of this whole letter to the church at Corinth, because the backdrop is you have the thousand, and prostitutes going out, work in the streets.

They have some serious gender issues, which we're going to get to in the next two of three chapters. There's a lot of immorality going on. We just went through 1st Corinthians 6. So this is kind of the backdrop. And so I thought big picture, when you think about the plan of God, the plan, God made, if God is truly creator of all people, and he made them male and female. If you go back to Matthew 19,

where you referenced the Unic reference, where he gave the same discussion about marriage, he said, some are eunuchs because they were born that way, some have been made that way by men, and others have renounced marriage for the kingdom of God. I mean, it seems to kind of mirror what Paul is going here. going with here to the Corinthians but he also

in Matthew 19 Jesus gives this foundation he said God created them male and female so here's my point if you look at the plan of God if he didn't make everybody male and female and that would mean we would

be sons and daughters of him and so when we're and it mentions that several times in these letters about us being the sons and daughters of God. Well, we're all made by God. So we're all made on purpose for a purpose by God.

We're all children of God. But not all of us get married. That's optional. That's optional. So I think the reason this is kind of difficult for us, because there's a lot of options. I mean, look, even in my own marriage, when we did our premarital counseling,

we filled out this form. Our compatibility, they call it a compatibility, what do they call that out? It sees what you have in common or whatever. It's like a compatibility test. Well, I was curious because I thought, at face value,

I don't feel like I have anything in common with this woman outside of Jesus. So I was curious on what they were going to come up with. So when... Hang on you... Jay's, let's take a break. So Jay's is always talking about stock market, which is one way to invest. Another way is real estate, which is healthy, I think probably when you say, Jace, to have real estate as well as stock market.

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I said, what about the compatibility thing? And he kept putting it off, kept putting it off. I was like, how long does it take to get results to it? Well, the bottom line, he was putting it off because it was, it basically said, you too do not need. Yeah, you're incompatible. So I kept pressing him on it, and he finally said, brother, how's your prayer life? And I was thinking, what? He's like, because with, you know, with man, some things are impossible.

But with God, all things are possible. I was like, so you're saying we're not compatible. He's like, if we went by that, that's going. It basically said, y'all need to just go your own separate ways. It's never going to work. It's good for a man not to marry to begin with it. That's basically, look, that is basically what he was saying, and this is my premarital counsel.

Interesting, on the deprivation part. In other words, the husband's body does not belong to him alone, but also to his wife, do not deprive each other except by mutual consent. I'm about compatibility. You say, I tell you what, let's don't have sex for a while and for a time he said now don't get carried away here because you can pray devote yourself to prayer just just it strengthens your spiritual part then come together again now so you hadn't had sex for two weeks three weeks whatever or two

days whatever then come together again the sex is back so that satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. It's being married, you have an option if you even delay the sex part since that's all you're getting, biblically speaking, is your wife. That's it. So if that's all you're getting,

you look at that and you say, I understand where we don't want to go a whole whole whole while because if I can't control my sexual urges, we need to turn that loose among each other. here we don't need to try to go right that's what one of you is going to live like uh whatever where there's no sex oh they don't like sex i've heard them say it we don't like to we don't like get into that so there's a lot of uh sexual what shall i say problems that arise oh i'm sure sex i can really get out of hand in a hurry because of that lack of self-control

exactly phil because they were saying oh we're just not because the epiope Recurance we're teaching that, look, you just need to do everything in moderation, but the sex life causes anxiety in the marriage. So let's just not do that. Well, that's one thing to say that. It's another thing to try to pull it off. I mean, there's been other people. You're going down a slippery slope when you just go down that road. To finish my earlier thought, what I was going to say is, so here when it comes to marriage, and it comes back to that Matthew 22, where they didn't.

didn't know the scriptures or the power of God. I look at my wife and I, what makes our marriage great in my mind is because we focus on being a son of God or a daughter of God first. Because we believe

God created us for a purpose. Then we focus on being, because we are technically brothers and sisters in the Lord. So we're all have that income. That's never going away. it's a spiritual relationship

rather than putting all your your faith in the physical because no matter whether you believe in God or not the physical part of the sexual relationship that's going to end either on this life or the next that's why he said you don't know the power of God

but if you focused on those issues as far as the foundation I believe your marriage has a better opportunity to succeed because I was going to get first you got the plan of God which shows us he's a father. I'm getting this back to the triune in nature.

Then you had the purpose of God, which what is God's purpose? To reveal his love and grace to humanity. That's why he created us. So look. Can I just finish though? So then he sends Jesus to do what? To show everyone how the father is

and then he loves us and wants us. Well, that's our purpose. So my wife and I, the reason we came together to be married was that we were going to be a team to go out and do God's purpose, which leads to the third thing, which is through his power that happens, which then gets into the Holy Spirit.

So what I'm saying, I didn't understand 1st Corinthians 7, because I think they wrote him about everything controversial, saying how do we make, I wrote this down, how do we make, how do we fit Jesus into our situation? and where I think they missed it

was that you take your situation, his reference, and you give it to the Lord. There's a totally different perspective in doing that because all these situations can be different, but it's a matter of priorities just saying, oh, well, fix this, how do I fix this, how do I fix that? When we're out there supposed to be doing the purpose of God, that's all I was just going to say.

I would simply say that there's no way to really get a good handle on this except about one one thing time time now you you guys i call y'all the young bucks but but both y'all getting gray whiskers what you'll find is now y'all are in your what's your 50s 50s close enough in your 50s you look at sex inside marriage one way trust me when i tell you mid 70s next next stop 80, you begin to understand that there's far more important things amazingly as sex. It's a lot of fun, but when you get to be 75 my age, you begin to get some perspective that it's not better than eternity. It's not better than living forever.

It's not better than having peace of mind between you and your woman. It becomes not a non-issue. You still have a little fun at 75, but you say it's got a spot over here, but it's not the guiding force of your life by no stretch of the imagination. You grow up and time passes, and there come a time when you say it won't be a big issue at all. These people were primarily, that never died of, they were a lot of young people here. I think he brings that up in 29 when he says, he says, time is short. You know, the wives should live as if they had none.

Those who mourn if they did. There you go. The world's passing away. There you go. I think, let's take our last break. I think that's the point. I want to comment on a couple of things. So one, J.S. you're right.

We're basically trying to interpret a letter where you only don't have. got half of the information. We didn't get the questions. We only got the answers. And so that makes a little difficult, right? Because he's specifically dealing with something. I think the clue to that, Jace, is in verse 10, he says, not I but the Lord. And he was quoting what you talked about, Matthew 19, what Jesus said about divorce and it's better to stay married. And then from verse 12, he says, I not the Lord, meaning to me, he's basically saying, here's my advice on how to deal with these specific situations just you sent me. Because Jesus didn't handle it in depth.

Well, he didn't specifically say it. Look, which is why I went through the big picture. I mean, Jesus was more worried about the big picture. Something where everyone is involved is that you have to acknowledge at some point, every human being on where did I come from? Am I a son made by God or a daughter made by God or not? Or did I come from seaweed and fish water? That's why I said, that's why I gravitated toward that,

because that's what Jesus did. And I'm always looking at his model. You know, if you want to go to Ephesians 5, so he goes through the whole thing about the merit, you know, because men and women are different, different, obviously. And we've talked to that to nausea. Not so obvious in 2022.

Well, according to some. But my point of Ephesians 5 is bringing it up, He gets down to the end and he's like, I'm talking about Christ and the church. I mean, you each have your roles in your little marriages. Not to demean that, but compared to you being married to Christ and then we're the bride of Christ, that's the bigger picture. That's my point. So to prove your point, I think it's right there in the text.

So in the end of chapter six, you remember when he was talking about sex immorality, he said, your body belongs to the Lord for that's you in other words your body is his and he is yours remember when he said that when he was talking about that's you don't unite well i think it was like that he was basically presenting this scenario where the prostitute is competing with the lord for your body that's right it's a good way to look at it i see a lot of another thanks too al while you're there uh you two there are you our al and here you are jays and there's more family group but you're the result of sex you are its result well thanks for clearing that up i'm just saying i'm just saying you when you when you look at it

it it's a very uh what's the word it's a very profound act the sex act and for what i read in first Corinth in seven, it's critical that you keep that in mind, especially a guy who's been as sinful as I was in my past. I get it now, but at one time, nope, I didn't get it, but it did produce you two, Willie, Phyllis, Jeptha. So for that, I'm grateful, but time, as the time passes, your relationship with each other as a family unit far outweighs. the way you got here. Which by the way, to your point with Phyllis, who is the product of an affair, but at the same time, she is a gift to not only us, but also to the world. Yesterday, she was in...

Even that can turn out good. That's right. Yesterday, she got to speak for the first time in Missouri, and it happened to be on the two-year anniversary of when she found out that she was your daughter. and she shared that very thing. I was so proud of her because she sent me her speech, but I thought, man, look at the value of her life throughout her whole life. We didn't know her until she was 44.

But to your point, that does produce. Procreation is obviously a big part of that. And just to close this out, because we're running out of time. So Jay's to that point about the body, you know, belonging to Christ, when he says in verse 4, chapter 7, the wife's body does not belong to her alone. but also to her husband the same way the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife I think he's piggybacked on the same thought that you mentioned that if we understand that we're a part of the body oh there you go he's back we lost you for a second oh whenever we're connected to the body of christ which is what he said

that's why you don't want to bring in a prostitute something outside of your relationship with christ he follows that up by saying even when you're married two become one flesh therefore two bodies become one the wife belongs to the husband the husband belongs to the wife and so even in a physical realm he's saying you treat this just like your relationship with the lord exactly that's why i'm a big proponent when people they use the matthew 22 and there's oh there's no marriage you won't know your wife in heaven and i'm like oh sure i will it's just the physical aspect There's no longer any need for that. But look, she's been my best friend, my sister, and a daughter of the Almighty,

and we've been working together. We've become one. What God joins together, let not man separate. I mean, it just, it evolved through the spirit of God into something that he's using. I'm 100% sure that I'm fully aware that she's my wife in heaven, just not in a physical way, but in this, well, special way that God, you know, is used. Again, all it takes is time.

Right. Well, and I think, Dad, the challenge is what we'd like people to do is even at a younger age to figure out you don't necessarily have to wait until you get older. Why not apply some of those principles now that it's not the most important thing? I mean, I know when you're young, it feels like it is. And again, God built us to procreate. That's part of it and to enjoy each other. but at the same time, it's not the most important thing in your life.

It should be. America has turned it into idolatry. It's also like the judgments that were going on and the things that are lawful and the things that are unlawful that he mentioned in 1st Corinthians 6th, they were coming up with these questions to try to just fit Jesus into what they wanted to do. And I think, you know, there's something to be said about

whatever your situation is, what I picked up from Paul here, whatever it is. If you surrender to Jesus as your Lord and you use God's grace as a motivation for future decision-making, you're going to have the right heart to listen to what the Lord wants you to do through his word and through his spirit that's in you, no matter what situation, because there's a lot of situations you can be in. That's why it's a confusing. But everybody gets so hung up on connecting all the, you know, the tissue that's in here and crossing the T's and dot in the eyes and, like, trying to then have a creed that they can go around and police in marriage.

And I think they missed the point entirely. That's why it says when he gave the list in 1st, Quentin 6, neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters. Idolity is right there. because they take it. We're going to talk quite a bit about that as we go forward. We're out of time on a regular podcast. Just want to encourage you guys to check out Unashamed on Blaze TV,

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