Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 428 | Jase Loses an Ice Chest on the Highway & Phil Warns Against Idolatry

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

Jase shares a very funny story about his ice chest falling out of his truck bed on the freeway. Al recalls miscalculating a road trip by a great distance. Jase reminds people that we rely on God's faithfulness instead of ourselves so that we do not have to carry the burdens of worry. Phil defines idolatry and warns against the ways we may worship an idol without realizing it. Jase reviews the way people who witnessed miracles still struggle with faith, and Phil gives Miss Kay's quail sandwiches high marks! Sign up to watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed Get Uncanceled by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/Uncanceled-Finding-Meaning-Accusations-Condemnation/dp/1400230179 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? We read the text. These are 2,000-year-old writings right at it. All of it was wrapped up from 33 AD, and Jesus was here. The remainder of his life before he died was being raised from the dead state 40 days and left. I would just think it's written long ago. these 2,000-year-old writings. But what's interesting about it is, how does that still apply?

Does it still apply? It said, we read. So when we're, you know, like with the book, these books we come out with, we're like, yeah, we wrote a book and we quoted Bible verses written to the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire is no more. Right.

It's gone. It's collapsed. Yep. Out of there. I said, this was a, when Jesus was here, there were good times in Rome. Times of peace. They weren't really too much in the war at that time. And Augustus and Tiberius were the two that Jesus operated under.

But it was a great time to be a Roman. Yep. Since that time, fast forward, four, five, six hundred years, gone. Yep. So you could make a point to where this one is here. We're reading the text written to the Roman Empire, and evidently they didn't listen too well. You think? They didn't apply these scriptures.

So 2,000 years later, we're applying them to these United States of America. What's their response going to be? We don't believe it. We, you know, Jesus, who is that? I mean, you know, hate your neighbor. Right. Well, it sort of goes back to your, the movie you did, the Torch Bearer, because the Romans, they were the last of the sort of ancient empires. But, you know, after them you had the Brits, you know, pretty much.

And we copy a lot of the things that Rome did. Right. You know. And then it was us. I mean, you're right. America has kind of been the lone superpower for a while. But, I mean, look how rotten, you know, a lot of our culture is. So you're right.

I mean, it doesn't. How much has changed? Not much has changed. In 2,000 years, that's exactly right. A human being would live their lives based on 2,000-year-old writings, just on the face of it. Right. Let's see. Let's dig up something 2,000 years ago, and let's be all in on that.

That's a really good point, Dad, because I can't remember, I mean, there's a handful of books that I go back to and look at from just like 20 or 30 or 40 years, not many. I mean, I've read a lot of books in my life, but there's not many that I would go back to. The Bible is so unique in that. I mean, you just think about it. What book do you say, you know, I'm going to go back to, you know, something, fable book or, you know, I mean, it's just like there's no book like it. To center your life around 2,000-year-old writings is that you would have to be reading about the pitfalls. And it's all covered.

Atheism is covered. Gnosticism is covered. Socialism is covered. It's all covered. You're like, and how do you interact with your fellow man? That's plenty of that in there. Then and now. You say it's as relevant today as it was.

when it was written. That's right. Pretty amazing. But if you took just the principles out of it, I think most people would agree. I mean, we're going to eventually get to First Corinthians 13. But if you thought, what if we lived in a world that was patient and kind and didn't envy and didn't boast and it wasn't rude and it wasn't self-seeking

and it didn't get mad just at the drop of a hat. It kept no record of wrongs. Didn't delight in evil. It always protected and trusted. us. Where did you read that? Where did you get that info from? You're like,

but just think about it. A couple thousand years ago. If you didn't, if you didn't know that was in the Bible and you said, look, I have a map for society. Even, you could either use that or even the one that Jesus, I mean,

you just think about when he started off in that Matthew 5 and that sermon of the Mount. I mean, to me, it's like, okay, it's one thing to claim your God in a man,

form and as as crazy as that sounds you came from a virgin me without even and your your cousin who looked like mountain man is the forerunner to this great prophecy of the kingdom of god and so all of a sudden these people gather up and this is like the first public dissertation on the god of the universe coming from a guy in man form. What would he say? What would he say? Of all things that you could come up with, he comes up to his qualities that everyone should agree

are underrated on being a functional, peace-loving human being. He's like, blessed are the poor and spirit, those who mourn, the meek, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, the pure in heart, the peacemaker, and those who are persecuted

because of righteousness. I mean, that was his opening line. And he just interjected a few little thoughts you might think about from time to time just in case you're willing to learn. You've heard that it was said, so someone was running around and they had a doctrine they lived by.

you've heard that it was said love your neighbor and hate your enemy that's a that's a teaching that everyone should learn but i tell you uh oh love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you that you may be sons of your father in heaven love your enemies pray for the ones who are trying to kill you. You're like, did he ever change his mind all the way to death? No, his final words, forgive them. They don't know what they're doing. He causes the sun to rise on the evil and the good

and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Or not even the tax collectors doing that? You say, ha. And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore. As your Heavenly Father is perfect.

And he ends up on in the chapter 6 of Matthew, if you forgive men when they sin against you, your Heavenly Father would also forgive you. But if you do not forgive when they sin against you, your Father will not forgive your sins. I said, just remember, be real forgiving towards your neighbor while you're there. And even love your enemies, don't hate anyone. I actually, it just seems kind of a strange teaching. But you see people, and boy, to put that into practice, it's tough, and I evidently. I was actually the recipient of some love this weekend from my neighbors.

Good for you, because I was the recipient. of some hate. Oh, well, all right. I'll tell you this story. I don't want to hear these stories. You got to remember that when you're doing it cuts both ways, Jays. When you're doing a TV show, there's a lot going on. And I guess you throw in the podcast and events and just life, you know, just the pace of life is fast.

We're in a fast pace right now. So I had pulled in from a week of shooting this show. of course I got everything important from a material possession point of view in my truck because I'm

you know the way out we're doing this show if we want a fire you know I got a bill one so I got you know I got everything from grills to charcoal to wood in the back of my truck

if I want to eat I got an ice chest full of stuff and I mean I got my fishing pole You're filming in the middle of nowhere every time middle of nowhere every time you don't know what you're going to get into so I just bring everything guns riding reels baits things for fire sleeping bag it sounds like a survival expedition that's what it is I have my truck literally cannot hold another thing and so when I got home I was cleaning out some stuff and some stuff I'm keeping it's a transitional period and so uh well the next morning Sunday morning is the film crew partaking of your

survival survivability the film crew are they invited for whatever would you get a little snack because you haven't eaten anything and maybe get warm their butt around the fire I mean well I'm sure

I'm sure Jeff is just as prepared as Jay so because you know he speaks of survivalism what is that a Jeff so so you got L.A and L.A. L.A.

These people are coming out of Los Angeles, California, and probably New York City, and they're gathered up in the middle of nowhere down in deep Louisiana. I mean... I know one thing. I cook some hot sausage on my little grill that are using... There you go. Duckblind and one of those... Was that for everyone? Well, one of those cameramen, he said, what does that taste like?

I took that to me... I'm hungry. Yeah. It was like Doc Colliday, what's the like to wear one of those? Yeah. I mean, he was won some of that sauce. I was putting the buns on the grill. I had these onion buns, and I had that hot jalapenian cheese sausage.

I slapped him one together. And so he got, he just fixed to take a bite. I was like, you might ought to have you some water handy if you're not used to it. And he's like, no, I'm good. He took one bite and he said, yep, let me go get this one. I could just see by the way his eyes were and the smoke started coming out of his ear. I can tell. He thought, wow.

But then the next day when I saw him, I said, how what? Did everything, how was that? He's like, it's one of the greatest things I've ever eaten. Once I got over the shock of the heat, like, yeah, it lingers. Anyway, what I said. But plus, it's the old deal about when you're cold and out in nature and you eat a hot meal, it is. It is.

It is like, it's 10 times better than that would have been just at your house. I could have taken some vina sausage. That's right. on that little grill and you eat it and you're like, you know, it's not bad. That's right. So I'm leaving. I get up next morning and I'm going to go meet with the brothers before I'm going to scout where we're going to be this week.

I mean, I said, here we go again. But I was like, I just, there's something about being with other believers singing to the Lord. I was like, I'm going to be in that crowd. And I told Missy and with you. but I'm going to that I'll listen to the sermon I'll just put it on my phone

as I'm traveling to my next destination I was like but I'm going to I'm going to sing with the brothers and I did boy it was just it was awesome but so excited that I'm going to do this I mean literally I'm like I need to just spend some time

with the brothers or sisters singing a powerful way well I never even looked at my truck I just got in it and took off and what I didn't realize is I had my ice chest. I got one of those yety ice chests with the wheels on it, but I had emptied it out and just left it on the tailgate. Sideways, not where it would roll, but the tailgate wasn't closed.

I have all this other stuff, but it's just sitting there. Well, I didn't know that. I just got my truck and took off because I'm preoccupied in my mind. Well, people are waving and blowing the horn at me, I'm hey, you know. What's going on? Everybody's friendly today. Well, people are trying to say,

you have an ice chest on the back of your truck. How I made it about three miles? Three miles. Well, yeah, these are pretty well made. Well, they are. They're heavy, but still, you're turning curves. And so finally, the damn broke because I hear, and I look back, and there's cars going hitting the ditch,

and I see this ice chest just end over in down the highway. And I thought, whoops. And here's where the love part came. One, everyone was trying to tell me on the way, there's a problem. But I was completely oblivious. I just thought, well, everybody's being friendly. Hang on. Let's take a break.

But then the other thing is a guy gets out of his car. And to my surprise, the ice jest is still functional. You know, he's rolling it up to me. I mean, he's getting it out of the dish. Now I'm feeling bad. That's a good advertisement for Yeti. Well, it was. But so I'm like, I got it.

But look, everybody, I mean, I've stopped traffic. I mean, in every direction. But I looked around and everybody was just like, nobody was hollering obscenity. Get off the road, you idiot. Well, I was saying, I'm an idiot. I'm stupid. I'm an idiot. Congress your sins.

I was. I was like. So you worship? Now you're confessing your sins. confessing my sins and so then i got got there i told me i was like you're not going to believe what i just did but i'm saying i i just felt that was nice of that guy to do it and i was like man i'm so sorry i'll be what could have caused a wreck i was like he's like you know no problem i'm glad to help i mean he was just really well if all this happened while you were doing a tv show i could see that uh you wouldn't be

altogether functional with the with the grind of it all and you sort of it is a gram you know how it is you know we've been there so you get distracted you know because your mind's on a million things and you're not thinking about the practical things of life like don't be driving around with your tagging being a danger to society here you idiot can you imagine if a cop would have seen that i probably he had probably taken me in jail. That's so funny that you were talking about that because we went to Illinois last week. And I was now, you used to, I used to have a five-hour window. If I can get there in five hours, I'd drive it just because it doesn't make a lot of sense to fly

because you've got to go hub and fly in. Well, now that, my zone has expanded to eight hours just because it's so intolerable on an airplane now with this stupid mask. I can't breathe when I get there. It's just miserable. So Lisa asked me how far it was. We were at a marriage retreat, and I looked it up on the computer.

I had already looked it up, and it was eight hours. But the second time I looked it up, like weeks later, and like you, I'm living life for getting stuff, and she was like, how long is it going to take us to get to Illinois? So I pulled it up on the computer where it said 12 hours. And I'm like, well, that ain't going to work. I mean, I can't drive 12 hours. I would have stopped and said there's eight.

and 12. Maybe I got something wrong. That's what I should have done. But like you, I'm distracted. I got a lot of stuff going on. So you got to get some plane tickets. I can't drive that. It's too far. We got to get back and do another thing. So she goes through the whole thing. We get the plane tickets. Well, then we get to, we fly. We get there. And I still got to drive hours. It's just a nightmare scenario. And we get up there. I put it up on my phone. It's seven and a half hour drive. I've done all this stuff because I was an idiot and didn't double check. because the difference. I mean, we're talking about flights, rental cars.

I mean, just, and I was saying the same thing. I said, what an idiot you are. I mean, like, why didn't you check yourself? Nightmare, shall. That was horrible. And it was all my fault. You've got to learn this one word. Whoops.

Whoops. That's exactly what I said. So that was the love store. What's the, I'm curious, what was the, how were you the, the, the, the, all it takes is, it's real simple. I've never clicked on to the internet

and I'm never on a cell phone so I'm not yet But you have people who do If you put forth information That's godly And you were on a lot of shows The last two weeks Because of your book

A lot of shows Yeah And if Somebody looked up Somebody read you some comments I guess Yeah You need to tell

Your people They quit reading you I have a comment I haven't read a comment on stuff like that. Dan, Dan tells me stuff. And I said, well, that's okay, Dan. Just tell him, don't tell him. Don't tell you.

But Dan said amazingly, he did say, he said, if you quote Bible verses all week in America, the various entities, if you just stick with, they ask a question, you quote a verse, you quote another verse, they ask another question. That's the way I roll. Well, I have to say that. I listen to several of your interviews, and some of them, now or more long form, you know, like podcasts and stuff. So you were on 20, 30 minutes on some of these shows.

And you were extremely positive where other people, I felt like we're trying to go negative, you know, because that's kind of the world they live in. Yep. And so that, but dad didn't go. He did not take. You did not take the bait. You were positive. You kept saying, you know, well, what about these people that hate you?

And you said, I love them. You know, I want to. I mean, I felt like. Jesus died for all. Right. So loved the world. That's right. Well, you know, in the world, you can expect a little flack from time to time.

Right. All the apostles, but John, I think, were slaughtered, were killed. Yeah. So they will get worse than they are now. Right. Now you just take a tongue lashing and yeah, yeah, yeah. They curse you out and, you know, call you bad names. Jesus did say to love your enemies.

That's right. You did say to love your enemy. It did. That sounds great, but practically, that's very difficult. It is. I found out with the interviews. Some of them were having a hard time. They say, you should be mad. And I said, oh, no, I'm sad, not mad. I thought you did really well. I was very impressed that you kept it, I mean, which is the concept of the book, but that's what you kept it there. The idea was, I don't cancel people. What difference would it be between me if I jumped on somebody and canceled them for whatever reason? Why don't I just love them and move on? Right. Well, and it was an amazing.

thing that your book released called Uncanceled the week that Joe Rogan and Whoopi Goldberg, there was all these huge, you know, controversy swirling around about canceling people. And you had a message of, you know what, boys, and my sins have been canceled. I love people. I mean, it was just, it was a really positive. Dan walked over with his cell phone. He said, check that out. And I looked.

And it was Rogan, me and Whoopi Goldberg on the other side. And we're all, all of us. I was thinking, how did I get in with that particular part? Dan's looking, he's doing way too much Googling. Well, unlike Dad's is the extreme of never look at anything. Dad, he's very fluent in the Internet. He knows. But we talked about it this morning.

Missy came out with a book. Is she going to be on here? Yeah, she's going to be on, I think, next week. I actually read it. It's really good. It's a children's book. But she partnered with this, I guess that's the company's name. I'll probably get this all wrong.

I think it's brave books. And they were asking us questions about it. And I thought, we're living in a world now where you're considered brave if you're promoting family activities. That's right. Just basic family activities. And they're like, look, we're going to show some braver here and some current. courage and we're actually going to do a family book and promote this as something we need to do in our families. Yeah.

Ooh, that's a brave move. You know, look down. What a brave person. There's a picture, and I'm in between two individuals that I know very little about. I don't know that much about them. And I'm like, I butt my pictures with them. And I'm like, well, what's that all about, Dan? He said, it's a long story.

He said. Yeah, I'd like that. I actually would have liked to read that story. Yeah, I think it was on Fox News.com. Because Dad had said something in an interview about, you know, hey, I don't, I'm not into canceling people. So they quoted something dad said about those controversies. That's what we were. But it was interesting because we met Whoopi Goldberg when y'all did The View, and I was with y'all.

And she was real friendly. I vaguely remember that. She was very nice. I mean, it was just a pass by in the hall. She didn't do the interview. But I thought she was nice to us. She didn't, she wasn't, you know, she didn't say anything ugly. Of course, she never met Joy Bay or that might have been something else.

Yeah, but Al, you don't know people until you meet them. That's true. I mean, you got to remember the media out there. They're notoriously known for, you know, exaggerating whether they're positive or they're negatives. And then you meet people and you're like, oh, well, I read on the Internet. Well, see, that's the danger of that. Well, see, and Barbara Walters was still on there when y'all were on. And what was funny was

Dad was so great with her because she kind of came in and she was a little, it was, she was playful, but she was kind of, you know, letting us know,

we're, y'all are in a different world than I am. And dad's like, I'm going to get you on this duck, and blowing this duck call there, Barbara or Babs or whatever you call you. And she said,

I'll never blow that call. Well, then they get out there in the interview, and dad said, here, give us some to try there where the crowd starts into it. So then she blows the call. And I thought it was really funny

because she was like, I'll never blow that duck call with that. She did. But she did. The first duck call she's ever blown like that. That's right. It was. But I mean, so we had the green room top, but then on the air, you know, it was playful. It was kind of, it reminded me of some of the interviews you've done in the past.

But I think it's kind of responding the way you want to respond. I mean, it's kind of interesting, the love and hate. We're talking about, you know, you want to be a loving response to other people. Exactly. Instead of the other. Let's take another break. So we're, we left off that in 1st, Corinthians T, and while you were doing all your, your media, we had the women on, which Jay, Lisa and I did, you know, we had Rachel and Sean Duffy. Yeah, they were good.

They were amazing. So this morning, before I came down here, Lisa and I were on their podcast, which was really neat. So, yeah. So I didn't get invited. Well, I think they're going to invite you and Missy on another one. So, yeah. I was just kidding. Yeah.

I really liked that couple. Yeah, they were good. Well, I was doing Missy's book thing this morning. Yeah. And I think that's fixed to come out as well. Yeah, I think it releases maybe next week or something. She's going to be on our podcast, I think. Well, let's just let her tell us about it, so I don't screw that.

I know you will. So we're in, so we left off at First Corinthians, Tim. Oh, before we get there, I wanted to read this because, Dad, you were talking about the relativity of the Bible across all culture. And it made me think of this verse because I shared it last week. When I was in Illinois on the last podcast, Jay's, I kind of bounced my idea off of you. So I met with these leaders and little small churches all across southern Illinois. And I was really impressed. These people were just salt to the earth.

I mean, truck drivers, the people that came to the men's event, they were farmers, just good old boys, you know. And when I spoke that night, it was 1,500 men there. And the biggest grad that ever had was 400. And it wasn't just because I was there, but it was because they've been locked down so long because they're in Illinois. And so I told them when I got up there, I was like, how many of y'all listened to Unashamed? And I'd say probably half of the guys in there, raise their hand in 1500 people. It was a lot of people.

And I said, well, I'm going to go back home and tell Jason Dad that I parachuted into a blue state behind enemy lines, and I found a bunch of rednecks. And I mean, they went to hooping and hollering. It's like, this is our kind of people. But I shared this verse with them, because I think it goes to what you were saying, Hebrews 412, for the word of God is living and active, sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joint and marrow. It judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight.

Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes to him who will give an account. Which would feed into the point that whether it be my old Saitong or Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler, all these types. Yep. Said the first thing you do if you want control of people is you get rid of the Bible. Right. Get rid. Don't leave any. Burn them all. Yep.

Pretty amazing. Right. these isms that rise up, you know, socialism, communism, communism. But the first thing they say, get rid of is the Bible and the people who carry them. Yep. Get rid of them. But, you know, even to a certain... Pretty amazing.

Two thousand-year-old writings, we've seen some of these leaders rise up and just absolute carnage and just slaughter people. You say, yep, get rid of the Bible. And you're free to get it then. Right. It's amazing. But even to a certain degree in our culture, because you can't talk about God in school, you can't pray, you can't reach about it. We're on our way.

Yeah, I mean, we're in the early steps. Yeah, let's go the Stalin route, you know, the Hitler route. Let's go in my old say, Dung, all this, Cambodia, that guy, Pol Pot or whatever his name was. You're like, slaughtered people, just slaughtered them. Yeah. And that's the wavelength they want us. That's what they want us to embrace. Yeah, that's not good.

But I like that idea that it's living and active, meaning that it's always going to be relevant because you have to have some absolute line in your life. These tyrants know that. That's right. Well, they want you to depend on them. That's why you know it's led by it's satanic. That's right. It's against God's word.

So Jason and I talked about First Corinthians 9 before we were talking about how it's just kind of an illustration of Paul saying, you know, because we're talking about food sacrifice to idols, that you can give up your rights, you know, that you have to help someone else. So it's kind of that idea about what we're just talking about, about that loving response to people. And then he kind of shifts when he gets to chapter 10. He's still talking about idolatry. But to me, it's almost kind of like he kind of shifts into this thing to kind of say,

but look, we're talking about things that don't matter, you know, whether meat was sacrifice to an aisle or it doesn't. I mean, I think, too, they were looking at it like making a big deal over what you eat. Right. Instead of realizing that God is the ultimate provider. Right. And in this case, he's, if God is faithful, you have very little to worry about if you have your faith and trust in him. I mean, I feel like that's where he's going with this. I mean, because he ended 1st. Corinthians 9 saying, you know, it's like this competition. and all the participants or they go through all this training. Because what is it called the Isthmus games?

Isthmus game. Yeah, they were going to be difficult. This is going to be eventual. Well, life is difficult. Yeah. Life is full of ups and downs and difficulty and pain and suffering. But you persevere and you keep, you know, and at the end you get a crown that won't even last here in an earthly game. But for the will of God, you're getting the crown that will last.

forever. So it's like then he made these illustrations. He launched in from there with Moses and the Egyptian in the Egyptian world. And you're the Old Testament history buff. Yeah, well, which I find interesting, and I said this before, Jay's, it's really, most of the people, most of his audience is a Gentile audience. I don't know most. I mean, obviously the church had both Jews and Gentiles who were converted. It was a poor. city. But you know there had to be a ton of Gentiles. So they're not going to know a lot of this Jewish history. But Paul, because he was a Pharisee, I mean, when he illustrates, he's going to go back to his history. And so I think it's interesting because I think what he's saying in this first part is,

look, idolatry is bad. Like, we're talking about sort of the things that it produces that may not matter one way or the other, but idolatry itself is bad. And he says, for I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact. So he's like saying, This is something you need to know. Yeah, but I think how it's leading to this statement in 1013. I mean, we're going to go through the examples. But when he, and this is one of my favorite verses in the entire Bible, when he says, no temptation has seized you except what is common demand.

Because he's going to make this illustration of how difficult it was, 40 years wandering around in the wilderness, but the wilderness was actually their pathway to freedom, that God was going to allow them. to go through all this so they would rely on him. Just like modern day, all the things going on in Corinth, these difficult things that you endure. And then he makes this statement, but God is faithful. He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.

But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it. I mean, I just think if you read the point first and then go back, God is faithful, which means everything to you. Right. I mean, that's why we write songs about that. He's the way. What's that song? The Promise Keeper.

Oh, yeah. The Way, Promise Keeper. Waymaker. That was the one I was looking for. But that's why that song's powerful, because that's what he was trying to get them and put their focus on. Let's take a break. No, I agree.

And so the whole deal about Moses and the desert and the people was the idea that if you're right jays if you trust in god he provided away from them to come out of tyranny and slavery and it was a it was an image of what was going to happen here in the first century but it was you know the slavery of sin so that's why he keeps using that illustration what's amazing is while they were wandering around that desert at first you know they were just out there and trying to get away But then after a while, they wanted to go back. And so the point gets made a lot of the New Testament.

It's like, why would you want to go back? Like, they wanted their freedom. Then they were free, but then it wasn't comfortable. Freedom is hard. It's hard. That's exactly. But you're free. That's right.

You would think they would figure it out. But they didn't. And it got so bad. It got rated R. Yeah, it got so bad, which he's going to bring up some of these instances here in this text. Modern-day America, if y'all keep talking. It does. And there's no doubt it does.

But look, it got so bad that he said, okay, I'll tell you what. I'm so sick of listening to this. So you're going to wind around out here until all the old heads, the ones who should be coming into this new land, you're all going to die. And you're not even going to get to see what I got for you. So what should have been a three or four year process to get all those people across the desert wound up being 40 years. And they all died out. because they grumbled, they complained, and they wouldn't let go of Egypt. And so I just found that fascinating how that illustration then comes forward.

And they were prideful, and that's what happens. That's why you come up with idols and you want to, you know, idolatry, all it is, is where you're changing the true, real living God for something that's not real, to justify your position or your lifestyle or because of your purpose. or because of your pride. Right. That's what we do. And we do it in various ways even today.

We don't call it idolatry. But we, I mean, I would say an example of that. It's just having, if your view of Christianity is something you do once a week for an hour, well, you've changed the living God. You just read this. Nothing is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare. But people you see every day, they'll say, let's go meet the Lord and you'll meet him.

Yep. And then you'll leave. And you think he no longer sees you anymore, contrary to what Ephesians 412 and 13 says. Right. So is that not idolatry? Yeah. There's no doubt it is. Yeah.

So what's interesting, Jay, is he starts off. And, Dad, you said this when we were studying John and Matthew, that you never hear about or read about baptism until John the Baptist comes along. And he starts baptizing this baptism repentance. Yep. But it's interesting because Paul is going to go back and use something as an illustration. And he's using the new birth. He says, I don't want you to be ignorant that our forefathers were all under the cloud, because there was a cloud that was going over them so they'd know which way to go. And that they all passed through the sea.

And he means the red sea. So imagine there's this cloud that's over him. He parts the red sea. And so while they're walking through with wall of water on the right, wall of water on the left, and a cloud on top of them, it's like they're immersed. And he says they were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. So he uses that illustration that this was a new birth for Israel. This is, in other words. And that they grew because it says they all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink.

Well, if you just stop right there, you'd say, well, what? you are what you eat and drink, so what should you be? You should be spiritual. And what he means is the food was coming from heaven, manna, and the water was coming out of a rock that shouldn't have been producing water. And a couple of pages later, he just reminds him, we were all baptized by one spirit into one body where the Jews or Greek, slave, or free, we're all given the same spirit to drink. Right.

He brings it up again. He does. So the point is, as he's going into it, it's a beautiful illustration that just like we experience a new birth and are cleansed in Christ and then receive spiritual food and spiritual nourishment, the hunger at, you know what you said earlier, just hunger at and thirst for righteousness. We receive that from Christ. We should be spiritual. God's Spirit leading the way. That's right. But they weren't because they kept wanting to go back under slavery.

And guess what? Well, because... People do that today. Because it was difficult. It was hard. But it's no different from when Jesus was baptized. Remember, I taught a lesson on this before when we went through Matthew. But when Jesus was baptized, I mean, heaven is talking.

God is declaring, this is my son, whom I love, and whom I'm well pleased. The Holy Spirit descends. And, I mean, almost like, it's like you're seeing a movie, you know. It looked like a dove and Holy Spirit's deceit. sending on him so now what we're going to fix all the world's problems nope what happens the spirit carries him to the wilderness yeah of all things for the most trying time of his of his ministry so we did that thing from the water to the wilderness yeah guess what he's tempted and it's hard and unlike us jesus actually made the right decisions he started quoting scriptures which is a good good thing to go

by when you're in situations like that well remember what he said because satan says that if you're really the son of God, turn these stones into bread. You've got plenty to eat. I mean, you claim you're the son of God. And then he said, what he said, man does not live on bread alone. So the idea was, I choose to trust in God. Which is the same as about the meat for sacrifice styles. It's not really about the meat.

It's for the one who can provide this for you. Exactly. I mean, he's making it rain, manna and quail. I mean, you'd think that'd be a nice. enough for me as an outdoorsman. I'm like, well, there's just nothing flying today. Oh, oh, wait. There's some bread and quail coming from the heavens.

And how good was that, you think that man or what? This was, I mean, God cooked this up. I ate it yesterday, quail along with bread. Yeah. And they were delicious. I said, you need to produce some of these quail, Ms. Kay, once a week. She said, okay, I'll tell. wherever she gets them from.

Yeah. I'll tell it, man. Yeah, the difference. Let's take another break. Well, to your point in 10-5, when he says, nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them. Oh, I left out that second part of three, where it says, for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them,

and that rock was Christ, which I love. Which is really interesting. That it's about God's presence in these situations. And, I mean, if you go back in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God, which I believe in Genesis 1, when it says, you know, when you read the first chapter of Genesis 1, it says the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters and God said. So God the Father said, well, whatever words, I believe was Jesus. But it was because when you read John 1, The word was with God. The word was God.

There's been quite a bit. You may know the exact number of years, but it was quite a stretch from Jesus who was with them. It was quite a stretch from that time frame to the Roman Empire. Right. You see what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. But I love the idea that Jesus is representative of living water across all time. Yeah.

What you're talking about? From the beginning to this time. I mean, he's been living water from the beginning. Here's a rock. The water's coming out of it. And they're like, huh. I mean, you would think, because people, you know, I'm telling you, people today, they're like, boy, if I could just see a miracle.

That changed everything. Well, they're seeing all kinds of miracles. It's raining bread and quail. You got a rock that's just water's just spewing out of it, you know. At what point are you saying there's somebody really big and powerful who is for us and they're allowing this to happen. Maybe it's not so we can be miserable. Maybe it's because he has something better plan for us. There's some kind of reasoning for this to be happening. It never entered their mind that the one with them, spiritual rock, accompanied them, and that rock

was Christ, but he's a long time before he becomes flesh. And even when he became flesh, the naysayers were still there. Right. I mean, look what they did to him. Right. Yeah. So pretty hard hearts all the way from Moses, all the way to when Jesus showed up. Right.

I heard a sermon by Jeff Walliam, I guarantee it's 20 years ago. But I never forgot it. Because he addressed 6 through 10 in a way, I thought, practically, fast forward to modern-day America. That was pretty clever. and I'll take you through it real quick as I read it. Because verse 6 says, these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. And so his lesson was about these five things that happened that you can look at

from the final one back to the first and see how you get away from God. So he's like, the first step is you have an idea. You set your heart on an evil thing. You just think about how does your life take a wrong turn? Well, it usually comes up with an idea. I want to do this. All right. Number two, do not be idolaters, as some of them were, as it is written,

that people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry. So if you're looking at this from a step, so number one, you have the idea. Number two, you come up with a way to eat. it, which is another way to define idolatry. So you have to have some reasoning. Because you know deep down it's wrong because God wrote it on your heart. So you have the idea. And then you say, okay, the living true God is clear about this.

So I'm going to go with this God version, which is idolatry. So now you excuse it. You have the idea. Now you have an excuse. Number three is you actually do it. Verse 8. We should not commit sex limerality as some of them did. and then one day, 23,000 of them did.

So now you got the third fact. You had the idea. You rationalized it. And now you're doing it. So then what comes next? Verse nine, we should not test the Lord as some of them did and we're killed by snakes. Because now you've got to read between the lines. Why do they keep doing this?

Because at first they're like, oh, we did it. And it's just like any sin that you do. You hear it's wrong. You know you shouldn't do it. But when you actually do it, what actually happens to you? Nothing. I mean, you may feel bad about it, but you weren't, you know, struck by lightning or in the moment. And so you get away with it.

Well, then you start testing the Lord. So you start going to church on Sunday saying, yeah, I shouldn't have done that with the plan or making an appearance, you know. So now you're just doing it right in the face of the Lord. And so the fifth step is then you grumble, and some of them did. and we're killed by the destroying angel. Now, I'm going to tell you what I do practically on this formula. All through my kids' lives, when I saw one of them having a bad attitude for no apparent reason, I went and confronted them and went backwards.

Because I'm like, why they, what's wrong? You know, Missy was being like, what is it wrong with it? They woke up there in a terrible attitude. I was like, I know what it is. They had an idea of doing some cutting up, and they represented. rationalized it. Then they started doing it. And now they're doing it right under our roof and the Lord's presence. And they got a bad attitude about it. So let's start at the attitude and go backwards. And there was never one time where that formula did not prove true. So, I mean, you say, what,

what are you been doing? And they're like, oh, nothing. Yep, no, you're testing the Lord and you're trying to test me. Now you're lying about it. They're like, well, what did you hear? I was like, you got a crappy attitude. It's either a guilty conscience or you want us to confront it. You wanted my attention. You have a bad attitude for no reason. You wake up. You're mad at the world.

You're mad at us. You hate us. You're grumpy. Your grades are not as good. All these things are happening. So finally, you get to where the mischief has happened and the reasoning involved. I mean, that's just 101 parenting. It is.

And it shows you how easy it is to create an idol. I mean, it could be a lot of different things and a lot of different things. And we talked about this before when we were talking about idolatry. There's a lot of things that you can decide you're going to, you know, set your heart to. And if it's not God, it's not going to end well. I would say, Jason, and that was an excellent five-point lesson. The thread that goes through all of that was there were consequences. To every one of those steps that you mentioned, there were consequences, and they weren't.

good. Exactly. I mean, that's what happened. Both in time and end of time, but both are bad. So it starts at the first, though, about your heart, which is, goes back to when we had our brother from Oklahoma. Larry Bowles on. You know, he started off of that.

What's going on in that heart in your deep down motives that God sees? And so in verse 12, he says, so if you think you're standing firm, I mean, he says in 11, And these were examples and warnings for us. So if you think you're standing firm, be careful that you don't fall. And I think that's where it all starts. Set your heart on things above, not on earthly things. Because that was the first place, what you put into your heart and the ideas that come from that. And this pride that goes along with it.

If you're like, oh, ain't nobody going to tell me what to do, you know, I got this all by myself. I can do this. Well, be careful that you don't fall. And then when he says, no temptation to seize you except what is common man, God is faithful. So I was reading McGuigan's commentary, and he had a version of something like this that basically said, to the vulnerable, to the open-minded, to the thankful, to those kind of qualities that we started off in Matthew 5, the poor and spirit, the meek, to those there is a God. And if there's a God, there's a way.

I mean, he just said, he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. When you're tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under. So if there's a way out, then there's a reason not to give up. There's a choice to persevere. I mean, it's really, when you look at it like that and you're like, well, why wouldn't everybody do that? those qualities of being humble and open-minded and thankful, that's where you had to get your heart to see the author of this book. If it's not, you just think it's rules or some old 2,000-year-old book.

But when you realize that God is faithful and he's good, everything he's wanting is for your good, even though it doesn't seem like it because you might have to suffer a bit. That's good. And I like that. We're out of time. But I thought in our Unashamed Overtime, I want to go back and give you a little bit of flavor from that setting that he was talking about from X's because there's some interesting stuff in there. So we'll do that in the overtime.

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