Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 433 | Jase Took a Plane Held Together with Duct Tape & Phil Remembers Respecting His Elders

Episode Date: February 25, 2022

Jase tells about the time that he took a special flight to Idaho in a rickety plane and his assistant declined to board. Phil recalls a time when men stood up for women, offered their seats to the eld...erly, and listened to what their elders had to say about life. Jase and Al discuss the nightmare that is commercial flights since all the rules and regulations have been implemented, and Phil tells of the progress in his and Miss Kay's ministry, where the smell of alcohol has slowly disappeared!  Get Uncanceled by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/Uncanceled-Finding-Meaning-Accusations-Condemnation/dp/1400230179 Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jace, while you were in Florida last weekend doing your appearance, I was about as far away from Tallahassee, Florida as you could be. I was in Lewiston, Idaho. Oh, that's right. You and I were talking. You know, it's funny, you said that. And right after we hung up, because you were saying about that you had hunted the Snake River.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Oh, I've been in Idaho. many times loved it. Yeah, and so then I found out, so just when you got out the phone, I came to the top of that gorge where Lewiston's down in the bottom of it on the Snake River, which was kind of right. I knew you'd bump into the Snake River at some point if you were going to Idaho. And we actually crossed it. But what was so incredible was when we were so high up there when we first got, I was like,
Starting point is 00:00:53 we're finishing to drive all the way down the bottom here. I mean, it was quite the little trip down there. It can be scary. Especially when they're from a place as flat as Louisiana. Exactly. but they were, the people were awesome. There was the woman that, it's called the Reliance Center, and it's a pregnancy center, and Lisa and I were speaking at a fundraiser.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And they had about, I don't know, 700 plus people at this event. And, but I always meet the most, whenever we do things like this, and these women who run these pregnancy centers are always the most dynamic, innovative, some of the most dynamic, innovative people I ever meet. Because, I mean, they're usually like this. They're there. They're trying to raise some money and, you know, get more ultrasounds, get more ways. And so what they had done is they had, the year before, they had raised enough money to buy a mobile unit.
Starting point is 00:01:43 And so it was there for the first time in the back of this place I was speaking. And you could walk through it. And it was incredible. It's like a massive RV with like four or five rooms and offices. And in the back of it is ultrasound and all that. So they can take it on the road, you know, to be able to go and. you know, test for STDs and also do, you know, ultrasounds for women to try to convince them, you know, to keep their baby or give it up for adoption. And so it was just really a great group of
Starting point is 00:02:12 people. And so they had this, this hat I'm wearing. I thought you would like this. They say they're hope dealers because they like going around and dealing in hope, which I thought was pretty good. So anyway, they sent you one too. But I told them I'd give them a shout out because we had such a great time. But let me tell you, Lewiston, Idaho from Monroe, Louisiana is not easy to get to. So we at least that I had major travel issues. I'm halfway to, I had to go to Dallas to be able to get a flight to get near there. You know what's crazy as Phil and I back in the day, got in a vehicle. Did y'all drive there? And drove. Remember that film? Now that's old school. It's a hot hole. It's a duck, hey, one of the best ducking.
Starting point is 00:02:57 places I've ever been and good people. I've done numerous events there myself, shared Jesus, and look, we get a lot of potatoes from there. I could live there. Yeah. I could, that snake river, it had a lot of qualities that I really like. Has nothing to do with snakes. No.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It's just a snake looking river. It is. And it kind of goes, I guess, through where Lewiston is, like I said, it's at the bottom. That's got to be one of the deepest gorges in America. Well, and the snake river in general, a lot of places just shout. You could just, we'd just go around a bin, throw some decoys out, in the Snake River itself. Remember that, Phil? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Oh, it was fantastic, no kind. So they're just coming right in there. Oh, it was. Those are years ago when we were, we hadn't been, but we went a couple. Well, here's what was funny. So I'm talking to this lady, um, uh, Heather, who puts it together. And boy, she's, she was so dynamic.
Starting point is 00:03:52 When she was speaking before us, you know, Lisa looked over me and she says, why don't, why don't We need to be here. I mean, she was that. She was amazing. And, uh, but she was telling me, she said, yeah, we had Jason a few years ago. And it was, it was, it was, and I was like, really? She said, yeah, it was called beards and babies. Beards and babies.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Do you, do you remember that? I don't, but, look, y'all know. But a lot of people who were there that I met, because, you know, they have, like, their sponsors, they have, like a VIP thing. And they were like, oh, yeah, we met Jace, you know, when he was here. I do remember, look, I do remember this. I don't want to embarrass this. people there because I lived to tell this story.
Starting point is 00:04:29 But one time I did multiple events in Idaho and, you know, it gets tricky on who's paying the transportation and all that. I have people who handle all. And so. It's a good thing because you can't even keep up with your Bible. So one event, they sent, because back then we were filming our little duck show. Yep. And I wasn't trying to be a diva, but based on time.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I had no time to get there, because it is difficult to get there. And so they're like, we want you to come. Maybe it was the Beards and Babies things. I don't know. But I said, well, I have no time. So if you want me to come, somebody's got to send me a private plane. It's not about because I just want to, because now I mainly go commercially or drive, you know, when I do events.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Because I'm not trying to. My driving windows getting bigger every. Yeah, I'm not trying to gorge people out of money, but back, you know, for a private. private plane, but back then I just had no time. They're like, we want to do it. So they're like, hey, we got sponsors and donors. We're going to make it happen. So, but then, well, when another venue heard that I was coming, they said, well, we want
Starting point is 00:05:39 you to come. And I was like, well, hey, I'm going to be in, I'm going to be there anyway, so let's do it. So long story short, I take a private plane. They send a jet, and I mean a nice one, one of them kind where your head hits the back of the chair when it takes off. It's like a rocket ship. And you look up and you're like, well, I wonder how long this going to be up we're here so i land we do the event so i'm we go back to the airport because now i'm
Starting point is 00:06:05 going to somewhere else in idaho idaho is not a big place well this other event they're like we're not paying for our plane to go to your event to you they have made other arrangements so i was like oh we got a different jet now i'll go over there and i'm not kidding it was the equivalent of a crop dust that plane. Look, it had actual duct tape around one of the wings. My assistant looked at me and she's like, you're on your own on this one. I don't even know if there's room. I'll meet you there.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I thought, you know, can we not work something out? Because I could get in this plane, because I'm looking at the plane that I got here. I'm looking at it. I said, we could be over here in five minutes. I kid you not. Couldn't work it out. I thought, well, I got to get on this crop duster. And this whole boy, I mean, he played the part.
Starting point is 00:07:03 You can't make this up. He was like, well, I feel pretty good about it. I mean, this thing had a crash landing a couple weeks ago, but I think I got the kinks work. Don't be disturbed by the duct tape. And so here's what's funny. That should be like a top 10 list of things you never want to hear as you're walking into the blade. Here's the funny part. They're crawling in.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Here's the funny part of this story. It took me longer to get from one city in Idaho to another in that crop duster than it did for the jet to pick me up from Westman Road, Louisiana and get me there. It was just and we're just moving and bouncing. And I was so happy to be alive. I think it's one of the best speeches I gave because I thought, I almost experienced. the resurrection just on the way over here guess what folks i just beat death so man i got back on the crop duster got back to the the jet and then i got on the jet and they took me home so yeah that was my next question so you had to go back to the jet then i had to repent because i chewed out my
Starting point is 00:08:14 assistant who set this whole thing up i'm like if this ever happens again you need to make sure that when we have a jet just sitting there, we work something out. That's right. Because once you're on the jet, you do not go get on a crop duster. That's right. During these proceeds,
Starting point is 00:08:34 work it out, even if I'm paying for the time for the jet to go. Right. I mean, because it just, it was scary, but I thought, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:43 you can't go around and want to share Jesus and not just go with what happens. And we survived. The boss of Paul had numerous, was wrecks of sorts. Yeah. Well, we made it.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And I mean, it was... Well, and that's what I was... I mean, like, to me, we went through all these headaches because Lisa and I have figured out doing commercial travel how to do it. We're the most comfortable to get there. Time-wise, we're not in a pinch. And unlike what Jason was talking about back when the show was going on, we have less restraints.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So I can go in a little bit early or I can stay over, not a big deal. Didn't Paul write about, you know, the ship... broke into you. I mean, he's... Oh, he has a whole... I mean, on Driftwood, whatever. Yeah, all this stuff was crossed my mind. My thought was, let's get a bus.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Or let... I just don't feel too good about getting on this thing. He has duct tape on it. He's like, well, I thought you loved duct tape. I was like, I love duct tape, but not on my... The wing of the plane. Plus, let's have a talk about television versus me cronoma on a plane. Hey, I got on it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I did it. There's been two or three times. in my travels where I've gotten on a plane and I thought well this is where I had the same thing so philip had I was doing an appearance with sigh but I was in tyler texas we were going to mississippi and so philip said I got a plane lined up because we were again we had time constraints because we had to do this other event I didn't have time to the commercial wasn't going to work he said oh I got it worked out I got there's a plane I'll pick up and you know I'm assuming a king air whatever stuff we fly same deal I'll walk out there and I look at it and it's me and
Starting point is 00:10:21 son, Anna was with us. And he said, yeah, we got just enough room for three. And I'm looking at this thing. And I'm thinking, what have we done? And I said, how long is it going to take? He said, three and a half hours, which I can drive to Monroe from there. It's the same deal. We get in that plane.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Well, about two and a half hours in, I got to go to the bathroom. Well, there's no bathroom. So I was like, Anna, turn your head. I got, you know, we're fissing out to figure something out in this plane, me and your mom, because I can't wait another hour. This is if it'd be embarrassing. of a rookie move when you get on those planes. You got to at least empty the, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Well, you got to understand, Jason, I'm not a young man anymore. Three and a half hours is a long time in between pit stops. I'm like, sigh, it's, you know, as much as the water as I drink, you know, I'm like a race car. I'm like a fine two race car, a lot of pit stops. I told you before. It's like, yep, but it's not because you're old, because Jeff is the youngest of the brothers. And since we've been doing this show, he just basically goes with me in my truck every I mean, that's his plan.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Right. Does he even have a vehicle here? Well, he has one, but he's never in it. But we have all our gear and once it got in there. But I mean, look, I might have shared this on a previous podcast, but I'm telling when he wakes up in the morning, hopefully after he says his prayers, it is all when the first bowel movement is going to take place. That's all he thinks about.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And I get in a vehicle with him, and he just seems combustible because he's like, I don't know. I don't know. I was like, you don't know about what? I don't know if I can make it. I mean, you might have to pull over. You know, I'm looking around. So after a while, I thought, this is funny.
Starting point is 00:11:57 He just ate something bad. No, this is every day of his life. He wakes up. And we got to get that squared away before life can continue. Well, we already have that. We don't have trouble. So when Jessica showed up this past week, I don't know why. All this emotion and everything we've been through the last few weeks just poured out.
Starting point is 00:12:20 when she walked in, I just went over there and I just thought you're just an awesome person. I am so sorry for everything he had to do. And we started laughing. She said, this must be something about Jeff Bowles. I said, that is exactly what this is. I said, that poor boy has something wrong with you. You'd never know it if you weren't like living with him like it is now. There's two hours of his life every morning.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It's figuring out where. the exit strategy is going to happen so we can continue with life. Well, we've already talked on a previous podcast about how meatloaf affects it. He's on the no meatloat thing. So we came back from, look, he's close to the trusty woods. So dad, does he get that from you or from mom? This is bouching. Because dad can count on one hand.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yeah. How many times he brought that up. So look, here's what's funny. So we just finished that we have a week off now from filming. And so when I was coming back home, I was like, well, I said, baby, are you cooking anything? Because we were out of town, obviously, and we were driving back. She's like, well, I was thinking meatloaf. And I said, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Because she was saying that that means she's already begun the process. You don't just whip that up. No, that's a process. And she's like, I was like, I have Jep with us. And Jep's like, but I have a week off. And I was like, oh, we're good because Jep has a week off to deal with us. he's in. Well, the last time we talked about, we all got so tickled. So when that episode dropped, I was one of our listeners, it's either Lisa or LISA. I'm not sure it's L-Y-S-A.
Starting point is 00:13:59 She sent me, the title of her email was, you made me pee in my pants. Oh, about the meatlo? And I was like, I've never gotten an email that said that before. We have noticed, because the night after we ate that again, we had the same problem. The next day, I even got involved in that process, and I thought, man, it's so good. But I guess it's just when something is so good. There's always a consequence. But we decided to eat a lesser portion than previously. I think that's always...
Starting point is 00:14:33 It really didn't help, but I thought we thought it was. But, I mean, Jeff, I didn't see him for two days after that. And when he came in, I said, I don't want to hear about it. Let's take a break. Well, yeah, so I guess that's the travails. Is this the segue into a deeper understanding of something that's supposed to be spiritual? Well, I'm trying to figure out how to do that. Well, look, it's not uncommon.
Starting point is 00:15:05 They were, in First Corinthians 11, they were taking the physical attributes of having a meal together and what was happening. They were eating too much and they were abusing. I mean, you would think that people are getting together to celebrate the Lord and it became a. glut of glutney of food and a total disregard to what this represented in that a loving bond between each other of fellowship because Jesus is your Lord and now let's have this moment where we're remembering the Lord Jesus Christ until he comes which has been one of the greatest inspiring motivational factors of my Christian life is when I'm taking the bread and the drink the cup to represent Jesus and doing this self-examination, which is really is what this is.
Starting point is 00:15:58 It's funny because yesterday at WFR, I preached yesterday, and Phil Geiger, a long, you know, longtime friend and brother, was doing our communion talk because, you know, he used to have a little talk and then he prays for when we take communion. And he did great. I mean, Phil's such a good guy and his stuff was really good. But it's funny because he's my accountant. And he's, I guess he's yours and mom's accountant too. And I was thinking as he was going, I thought, man, I am a blessed man to have the man that standing between me and the IRS be this godly and love the Lord. You know, I mean, I thought, what a, what a blessing. Yeah. Because that's a, you know, in that position, you want that guy to be top-notch because he can cause you a lot of harm if he doesn't do his job correctly.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But that was just, I was saying about that because he was talking about community about that idea of unity together, you know, which is special. That 20, I mean, there's a twofold meaning going on, which is what we brought up the love feast at the hell, which I wish we would bring back. I mean, that's why I like the idea of people getting together in, in small groups, just to hold each other. Well, before COVID, that's what dad and mom are doing where they are. They were having a brunch, a meal.
Starting point is 00:17:12 A love feast. Yeah, a love feast. And some of the people that are participating in that meal is probably about the only good meal they're going to get all week because there's some homeless folks there does help the homeless there's a lot of good things that happen when you get together especially in the name of jesus and have a meal with other people yeah and then dad the time i was there he would just stop and say all right we're gonna take a second here and and then somebody usually would say a few words and you know describe why we're doing this and then they would participate in the lord's supper and then they'd go back to where
Starting point is 00:17:43 they were going and then i reminded our brothers sisters I said, look, I said, when you see human beings eating together and praying to God together, that's together. Yeah. I said, nothing else will do. Right. Do they eat together? You say, they eat together. You say, do they pray together?
Starting point is 00:18:08 She said, they pray together. You said, they're together. That's why you can't have black churches, white churches, that kind of stuff. Right. which still goes on in America. We need to get past that. Yeah, I agree. We need to come together.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Everyone, don't worry about all this, the color, the where you came from, your ethnicity. We're not worried about all that. We're followers of Christ. We're coming together. We're going to have a meal together, and we're going to thank God for the meal, and we'll love each other. I said, when you do that, you're together. But nothing else will do. I agree, Phil.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You're part of the most diverse church I've ever. witness. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah. I mean, to, I mean, to that credit, when you love all people and you try to be Jesus in this world, which is what he did. He broke down all the barriers and walls. Yeah. The Lord's supper is right in the middle of it. Yeah. Because it's the reason we're all together. Yeah. He just died for the sins of the world. It was his idea, not us. I mean, he, when he came together and introduced it, I noticed when Paul said that in 23, he said, for, I receive for i for i received from the lord what i also passed on to you the lord jesus on the night
Starting point is 00:19:24 he was betrayed took bread and when he had given thanks he broke it and said this is my body which is for you do this in remembrance of me in the same way after supper he took the cup saying this cup is the new covenant in my blood do this whenever you drink it in remembrance of me and then a real fascinating verse because when you think about this from a worldly viewpoint this doesn't make sense for whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup you proclaim the lord's death until he comes i don't think there's there's no other being that you can proclaim their death until they come because if he was dead it's an oxymoron right what this is a verse that the world needs to get their head wrapped around oh wait a minute you're proclaiming the lord's
Starting point is 00:20:16 death in memory of him. No, we're proclaiming it. Yeah, in memory of him, but until he comes. Yeah, yeah. He's not dead. Just to tell you a true story, we've been there about a couple years. When I first got there, you say, how close was it? One remains hungry. We had plenty of that coming from our congregation. Another gets drunk. So when we first started there, you could all always smell liquor when you got together. Yep. Pretty small place. There's 50 people there and, you know, started out about 10.
Starting point is 00:20:57 But now, you know, we're up to about 100. But anyway, a lot of people have been converted from there, gone from various states and the United States. But we could smell liquor for about the first year. Yep. When you got on the scene. So it was like somebody has been getting drunk. because I can smell it.
Starting point is 00:21:17 In this case, well, you know, I'm... You know, it's pretty strong because you don't smell so well. That's right. After two years being together, we no longer smell liquor. There you go. Now, someone said, well, why did you bring that up? Because at Corinth, one remains hungry and another gets drunk. I'm trying to wrap my head around getting drunk on Sunday morning
Starting point is 00:21:41 when you're supposed to remember Jesus. From the Lord. blood and his body. From the wine. I just looked around. We got a ways we're going to have to be patient here. There are a lot of scholars, you know, they're like, well, that can't mean drunk, but how to come up with ideas.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Even McGuigan, it was like, I don't think it's, I don't think it's drunk. I don't know what it means. The apostle Paul said some get drunk, but I know some are not getting drunk. He's like, well, they have trouble because his, his exhortation was them for them to, Don't you have homes to do this? Right. See, we have a little bit of containers. They didn't want to say, well, don't drink at home. Well, it's wrong to get drunk anywhere, which is true.
Starting point is 00:22:21 So it can't mean that. So what can it mean? But I think it's one of these common things where if you start trying to get into the weeds too much, you miss the point. Right. Which is they were abusing because they were not looking at the, at who. They were not looking at who should be going on. The wine represents. the blood and they were in by they were they were they were heavy on the wine yeah that tells you
Starting point is 00:22:49 right there you say the hearts weren't right right they were that they were disrespecting what was going on here disrespected the lord remember on the sermon on the mount i mean he's like blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness yep not he's and you remember the feeding of the five thousand and four thousand what what happened there it was a feast where christ showed his love. But it was around a meal. This was a shadow that would, I mean, he knew the one thing human beings have to do
Starting point is 00:23:20 in order to maintain life on the earth is eat. And when you come together, I mean, you're going to have a lot of meals. And so how your spirit is and how that can be used to who is providing for you. That's why in the first reading of this Tim, where it said they were given, you remember with the manna and the quail
Starting point is 00:23:41 that we talked about. It's a common theme throughout the whole about God is the, he is the provider for life. We have the means to breathe and to eat and to sustain life. Well, he's giving us all that. Then you have these special. And the meal is there. So the meal is delivered by Gimber, my nephew.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So we pay him to provide a meal for the brothers and sisters on Sunday morning. So he brings the meal in. And yesterday he came in there and he's got it in paper bags, you know, then in styrofoam, whatever. Yesterday he had rice and there were beans and pork cooked meat. So he had made pork. So when I got home, I just put it in the back of my car, my truck when I'm sitting there in the parking lot. So he handed it to him and I just handed it. So I ate the same meal that the homeless were eating right down there.
Starting point is 00:24:37 They were all together eating that. But he had it ready for them. As they walk out the door, they go right there. There's a meal. We've already stopped everything. No meal involved. But we partook of the blood of Jesus, the wine, and the bread. Yeah, well, they changed your method because of COVID, you know, they didn't have the big buffet.
Starting point is 00:24:56 But now they, but you still provided a meal every time. Let's take another break. Well, the problem I say with this is all these churches are arguing about how often you should do it and what should be. The method of, yeah. Like, can it be grape juice? Can it be wine? no, and then people are like, you don't want to have wine because then people, they'll get drunk. And so they try to prevent it from the other way around.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I mean, Paul's main mission was to keep putting Jesus at the center in him. That is the filter that you make all decisions through when your meetings are coming together. Right. I mean, he's going to clearly say that when he gets to 1st Corinthians 12 in verse 3, which I love that verse when he says, therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the spirit of God says Jesus be cursed and no one can say Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit. What is his point? That's our declaration.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You're just getting together. You're coming for the food. You're coming to gorge yourselves. You could be doing the same thing at another day of the week. Otherwise, this cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this whenever you drink it in remembrance of me. Yeah. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You like, so we. And we talked about that, how that different groups have different ways that they, in times that they do it, which is fine. I mean, I like it once a week, but, you know, some churches I even meet up, they do it like once a month or once every couple weeks or. But, I mean, I just think you should do it. I'd rather do it more than less just because I think it's important. But the more you do it, the more it becomes a ritualistic. You can be. And you forget about Jesus.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Well, and we talked to it, it's hard to be creative with it. What's interesting to me about it, as you mentioned about the going back to the Old Testament, you know, the neat thing about the supper is that, you know, he was going back to Jesus doing it on the last Passover meal. That was the setting, remember for the last supper? It was the Passover meal. Well, it was the last Passover meal because he is now the lamb to be sacrificed for all time. But then you go all the way back to Exodus, I think Exodus 12 or 13, where you're going to. 11 and 12.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And the very first Passover meal, the idea was is that it took blood to be able to be passed over to be saved. So it's the same concept. He didn't intend for it to be misused, be, get out of control. Whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord
Starting point is 00:27:33 in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Man ought to examine himself before we eat to the bread and drinks of the cup. The very blood he's thinking about when you're drinking the blood of Jesus. And to you, the wine or the juice is the blood. Well, you need to take that seriously because anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
Starting point is 00:28:03 That's why many of you are weak and sick. Number of you fall in asleep. He said, y'all, you're not remembering what went down on the cross and the resurrection. Well, and how you're treating each other. Now you're treating each other. That was his key, because we know that's the context. When he said, remember the body of Christ, he meant the people around you. That is the body of Christ.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Human beings have a pinch of it, and that's for getting off the rails. It's scary. This is a scary verse because it went 32. It says when we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world. I mean, if you, if you, that's why I say when you claim Jesus is Lord, your surrendering. you're surrendering, you're giving up your rights, and you're taking this and you're remembering the transformer. You're not making so big a deal about your transformed life that it becomes about you again. You see that in the church.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I mean, even people give their testimony. I've seen people get up and they spend the whole time talking about how they change their life. And they never get around to who did the changing. I'm making a habit. You've missed this. I make it a habit when I'm drinking the blood and I'm taking. of the bread of life, it's a serious moment for me, because I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:29:17 you know, Lord helped me never forget what went down on my behalf. I'm thinking you, you just need to eat and drink recognizing that you were bought at a price and a high one, and this is the moment you need to remember it. I thank God in his grace and mercy did a wonderful thing when he instituted the Lord's supper. Yeah, I really did.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah, but I also think it's a scary thing. When you're sitting there going through the motions thinking you're faking God or you're taking juice and cracker and you're not, you don't believe that Jesus is Lord, you're perhaps bringing judgment on yourself and you may become weak, sick, or dead. Yeah. Because of that.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And he's like, I'm only disciplining you that so that you won't be condemned with the world. I'm trying to get your attention. Right. A lot of the things that. You partake of it. You look over there and you say, I can't stand that guy over there. you're missing the point yeah jesus died for and both of you well what was there
Starting point is 00:30:15 you better be thankful that that brother is seated there don't be condemning someone else as you eat and drink this is a moment when you say you need to have a little little blood check well their underlying problem that we've read over and over was they were divided divided there were divisions yep and they were when you're supposed to come together for a love Fees and you're, you don't like half the section for whatever reason of your church. And then you're now drinking the representation of Jesus who died for everyone. Yep. You don't go down that road. You don't see the contrast in here. Right. So then all of a sudden, all of a sudden you, you come down with some ailment because you're,
Starting point is 00:30:59 you're not, your heart is not right. You're not examining yourself and you're not acknowledging who Jesus is and what he represents. And then you're, then you're griping because God won't save you. And all of a sudden, you're praying that he'll heal you. Because you're still saying this is about me. Yeah. I mean, you think about some of our prayers, you know.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It's like we save that sometimes only to pray when we're at the bottom of the barrel. Right. If we judged ourselves, verse 31 there, if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment. So you better just work on your
Starting point is 00:31:35 own life, your stand before you and your God, Jesus, and how you got there, saved, your sins are removed, you're guaranteed to be raised from the dead. You need to demonstrate that when you come together. And he did bring up just common manners in 33 when he said, my brother, when you come together to eat, wait for each other, if anyone was hungry, he should eat at home. So they were just, and look, I've seen this, especially when, you know, I'm having a meal. I'm people over and it's a non-Jesus event but I've seen it in in Jesus events too where people are just being rude and you know not being courtesy and not showing courtesy just about you would think I mean I don't want to just get the entire half of the pot when there's 27 people behind me I've seen
Starting point is 00:32:26 it before oh yeah and even just I think just and then eating it and just you know put so Played on the floor. Through the years, let's take a break. Through the years, mom, you know, because mom was responsible always through the years of any of our home group meetings. We'd have food. But you'd have people that all of a sudden, you watch them a week or two. I mean, they're being rude. They're taking too much food, especially the first run through.
Starting point is 00:32:57 So mom. Hiling up their plate too high. So mom would take a station by the food. And she would either serve it or she'd be a, well. Which is really sad. I know. You have to do that in our society. I love it when my mom or my wife, like my buddies will be over and they'll leave their dishes laying around.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I mean, my wife, she will come in there and light you up about that. Now, I fix you a big meal and you eat it. And then you just think, I'm just, you can't walk 12 feet and put it in the sink. They're looking like, what in the world? I was like, she doesn't like rudeness in it. She ain't going to tolerate it. She's saying that because she loves you. But I think they're right on that.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I mean, you know, when you go to someone's house and there's a bigger picture involved, you're representing supposedly an unselfish being because of who you are in Jesus. Al, if you saw the individuals who has gone through our kitchen, that little shack we got on the side of the river over there, if you saw the amount of food that has been cooked on someone else's behalf, how big a hill would it make? Make a bacon. A lot of food.
Starting point is 00:34:09 But I love it because mom's deal was she just took it, again, as the matriarch, and this is my kitchen. I'm just going to, she didn't allow what was happening here to happen because she was just like, no, we're not going to do that. But look, you got to remember people you bring to Christ. A lot of them don't know. A lot of the parents haven't trained them. They didn't teach them any manners. That's right. You know, our wives and our mom, and they have a way to do it that's non.
Starting point is 00:34:35 offensive and because like I said I've seen my wife a hundred times say now look I realize your mom didn't teach you this I mean these are grown men she's saying this too yeah too but we don't we don't get that much when there's a long long she'll just flat out tell us right I mean there's there's a concept of other you think of that a woman's role and the way it all operates and you got godly women doing the cook and just think about the time it takes to do all the cooking before you get it out there as they walk by, you know, depending on how big the crowd is. But you always have to have more than you thought
Starting point is 00:35:13 because the crowd tends to get a little bigger when there's a meal. Well, and there's little things. The time I said there's a fish fry for my class. I announced that and I thought, I said, I got about 40 people here who are coming. That thing quadrupled. When they heard free fish, I looked up, I said, I better have some in reserve.
Starting point is 00:35:33 It was a big, you know what that? He ended up feeding. Turned into a church. Oh, it was 200 showed up. Although reserve was you telling me, go run some more nets. Me and your house. Go run some more nets. Go run some more nets.
Starting point is 00:35:44 We were cleaning fish. But see, because we didn't have the Jesus power to just reproduce it, you know, out of thin air. That's right. But you had these conversations because you don't want to distractions of the big picture, which is, you know, getting off the planet alive and putting our faith and trust in Jesus. But even little things, like we were taught at an early age, mainly by our grandparents, I guess. Like if you have more people than you had seats, whoever were the youngest. Get out of the seat.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Oh, I mean, like, you know, grannie would be like, do you not see these adults standing around? Move. Get your butt out of that chair and get on the floor. That's how she did it in love. She would say, no, I love you. But don't ever do that again. I'll whip your butt.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So I'm like, when somebody walks in who's older, I realize, you. You're going to go last in this line, and you're going to sit on the floor. You remember Paul what his method was? He said, don't make me thump your gourd. Yeah. Boom, he gave me the old thump on the head. He grabbed me by the ear. It's like, hey, look around, wake up.
Starting point is 00:36:52 But all this stuff that we were trained to do, you know, people are not used to that. But when you get together with people and you're bringing people in the Lord, a lot of them are new Christians. They've never had any training. You've got broken homes. You have to have these conversations. And if you don't do anything for a long period of time, you got this situation.
Starting point is 00:37:12 You were like, well, I can't tell what's the difference between what's going on in a bar watching the Super Bowl, which whatever their equivalent was back then, and our meeting together in the Lord. Ain't no difference. Everybody's going for one person, me. I want to get as much as I can eat or I'm going to get drunk. and I'm going to have a good time. And they missed the whole point of what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I noticed it on airplanes now because, you know, air travel is never comfortable anyway because, I mean, you're crawling in this tube and going across the sky at five, six hundred miles an hour. It's just not comfortable. People don't like it. Those little airplanes, you're just right next to a person. You're bringing up a sore subject. I just got off.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Look, I'm telling you, when I won. walked out of that airport. I pictured Mel Gibson with the blue face. I walked out, I took my mask off, and I went, Frida. And I looked around and people were looking at me weirdly. I was like, yes. I made it. No, I get it. And then the mask now has made it more. But here's a lot of notice, Jay's, I look for, and there's a huge lack of, just common courtesies with people. Like, we're all stuck in. Everybody's angry. Yeah. Now there's no food or drink. And look, I was in first class. No food or drink.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You sit down and you shut up. And keep that mask over your nose. You have your mask on the whole time. Nobody engaged you. I mean, except a few people that recognize. You're like, hey, can we take a picture? But, oh, don't take that mask off. Gase, you're seeing the collapse of an empire.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yes, true. But what gets me, though. It was very, I mean, it's just so sad to see. But I noticed how people like, Somebody's like there's people, a little lady's trying to get her bag up and people just sit there. I mean, it's the little things like that I noticed. Because you've got to stay six feet away. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Look, I saw no difference this past weekend than any time. I mean, you had to have the mask on the whole time. They were policing the social distancing. But just everybody seemed grumpy and angry. And I was like, man, do they need the joy of the Lord in this? Oh, that's what I think. I see opportunity. Which is what I try to do.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Let's take our last prayer. I try to think, okay, my role here is to be Mr. Sunshine. I want to be friendly to the staff. And even if the flight attendants, because they're grumpy too, you know, they're living this life like all the rest of the other. I'm like, I'm going to be, I'm going to make sure somebody brings a little joy into this little hellhole called commercial air travel. And that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Because look, I try to help people with their bags going in front of me. I went four legs, four flights. So one of them, they gave us drink. and a snack. And I thought, why didn't the other three? Because it was the same airline. And I figured out why. Because that's on the attendant.
Starting point is 00:40:19 The flight attendants where they're using this situation as a way, they're just sitting up there on their phone. So three of my flights, they had no presence. So at one flight, you had people saying, despite we're all wearing a mask. You still want to make this comfortable, yeah. Here's some water and some nuts. It's something, you know? And I said, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Because I thought, well, how come the other three? Missy helped me realize, like, the other three didn't do that. And she's like, because they're using the situation. They're not going to give you anything yet. They could do that. But nobody, they're like, I'm not getting within six feet of it, even though you got a math. Even though we're all together on a flight. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I got a news flash for you. You think this is bad. we used to have smoking on airplanes. And look, these fools would say, do you want smoking or non-smoking? That's right. What kind of question is that? If one person is smoking, I now have smoking. We're in a capsule where I'm just like, everybody's twisting the dolls now.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Can you imagine when we got eight people in the slugging section back here? I'm like, but no, you're going to get a non-smoking seat. For some reason or another. I don't know why, ladies and gentlemen, but I've not been on a commercial flight in many years. Did they have smoking and non-smoking sections back when you were on there? I still, some of these planes I'm on, they still have that up there. Yeah, yeah, no smoking. No smoking.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Or like, you can't smoke in the bathroom. I mean, you know what I thought of this? It's because we were in the airport in Tallahassee. It's like 6 o'clock in the morning, whatever it is. And this, may I have your attention? There is no smoking. I thought, I think we got that. Nobody's smoking.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Come on with something else. We've conquered that. You think we've mastered that? There might be one person living in a cave for the last 20 years. We realize, oh, you can't smoke in an airport anymore. So we get on the flight? Are we surprised after flying around on airplanes and seeing the system as it works are we surprised that in the first place i hear that when you come together as a church there
Starting point is 00:42:45 are divisions among you and to some extent i believe it that's right but my point is phil so so now 20 years later after i thought we won this do you know what the flight attendant she didn't start off saying you got to wear a mask and you got it's like there is no smoking allowed or the and there's like a long list of things or any form of cigarette smoke. Tobacco whatsoever. You can't go to the bathroom and light up a cigarette. I'm paraphrasing what she said. And I thought, they're still on this.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Then we get to the now. Which probably means for some fool that's tried it, I guess. No. But what it hit me was that this is not going away anytime soon. We're still, we conquered that thing 20 years ago. I hadn't seen anybody smart. Jay, so are you, are you trying to? to put forth to the audience that there could be in these United States of America a love deficit.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah. I thought about it. No, I'm just saying, be prepared to wear the mask for the next 10, 15 years because once they get on something, because what you're talking about. They're not getting off of it on the airplane. It comes down to love God and love your neighbor. And we're having a hard time for filling those couple of admonitions from the, greatest commands in the Bible. Love God and love your neighbor. You're like, are we doing it?
Starting point is 00:44:09 We said, no. The United Line for their marketing of their, of their business is fly the friendly skies. And I thought, not really friendly. Not getting a lot of friendliness here. Look, the airport was packed and you want to go. But I mean, man, I'm like, these people really want to go somewhere bad. But hey, there I was with the herd. Well, me too, because, I mean, I was going to Idaho. I was, you know, I didn't have time to drive out there. You know, it's crazy, too. It's Now no one sits beside each other unless your family. Right. So now we now have half the seating capacity that we once had.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So everybody's sitting on the floor because you cannot, it's now socially unacceptable to just go part in between two people. Make it your ambition to live a quiet life, to mind your own business, work hard with your hands, so you day to live or win the respect of outsiders so that. and this is a good one, including airport personnel. You won't have to be dependent on anybody. Front and center is flight attendants and there. It's like you're reading that verse angrily. I'm just reading the Bible.
Starting point is 00:45:22 And dad hasn't been on a commercial flight in years. Oh, but we just brought it all up. I just read that text and said, well, flying up the friendly skies is out. I hate we brought it up because I was trying to. to be positive the whole time. The hateful. Because it was a good event, you know, but you just get in the world and everybody's so angry.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And I mean, because they're so uncomfortable. We can't breathe. We can't be near each other. People just going off over. You just, they get mad. What is it? Every other day, there's a video from a plane somewhere where they're fighting and scrapping and slapping each other.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It's really not the personnel anymore. It's just there's certain people who, if they see. a person with their mask off if they eat a peanut and don't put the mask back on while they're gathering another peanut and that person walks by the mask police who's just a person a human they just light into this person strangely enough i've never worn a mask i did when i was playing roy roger's when i was about five years old we had mask on like who's the crooks you were the bandit and i've heard i've never talked to a person who had a mask I've never talked to an individual and they had a mask on trying to talk.
Starting point is 00:46:37 It's happening every day, Dad, everywhere else. It's what we do. But, you know, and it was so brutal about it is you can't hear each other, which, by the way, is another reason why the flight attendants don't want to serve you. You can't hear them and they can't hear you. So you're talking the whole time. You drop the mask down so they can read your list. Put your mask back up. How are we going to communicate here?
Starting point is 00:46:56 That's what's happening in our culture. But I think the positive out of all this is I think the world is right. for some positive good news, something that's something that will give you security, like even what you was talking about, and dealing hope and dealing joy. I mean, look, suffering and difficulty and pain and persecution, it leads to perseverance.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And God is faithful in all that. And you appreciate God's grace and goodness and security once you experience that. That's why this is happening. Peace of mind, I've been saying it for many years, It's a rare commodity. It is. Plus, it's all relative.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You know, we're, like, experiencing this, and it is. I mean, for our world, we live in. But I go to Liberia, and I'm talking to these brothers, and they're like, you can get on a plane and fly somewhere? Like, is that real? Is that, does that really happen? Yeah. That's how I got here.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I mean, they have no idea. That's such so far down the line from their reality. They don't even know you can get on a plane. Well, my whole point is, no, we're looking at this, but can you imagine being people? people in this assembly. I mean, because I guarantee you there's some assemblies out there and there's some churches where they're looking around like, this is absolute chaos and misery, to be a part of this. And I think that's why, and earlier he brought that up about
Starting point is 00:48:19 in chapter 10 and 13 saying no temptation has seized you, there's a way out. He's not going to tempt you beyond what you can bear. As bad as this situation is, there is a good point. There is a path. There is a way. I even thought about that when he brought up the deal about pastors making money for different churches. Well, that's all great unless you have a church where the pastor is preaching and he's not very good. You know, what do you do? Because he's like, he's making, this is his job and he's doing it. He's just not very good.
Starting point is 00:48:52 That's a good point. So how do we handle this situation? We know this is going on. There's God's ideal and he has every right to make. his money from preaching, but you're at that church, and he just, you just feel like he should be doing something else. That's right. What does he?
Starting point is 00:49:08 What do we do here? I mean, I don't know. Y'all are pastors. She had some light on it. Maybe we can spend our bonus time talking about this. But how do you, how do you? That's what we're going to talk about. I just thought because we're almost out of time.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I know, but I feel people's frustration because, you know, we've all had these conversations where people at a church and they're, they've lost their focus. But here they are. They're just like, but I've been going here my whole life. What do we do? That's why I try to focus on the big stuff. Because what he was saying is you focus on Jesus is Lord, and you focus on faith, hope, and love,
Starting point is 00:49:41 and the greatest of these is love. I mean, that's what we want to, that's the spark. That's where we want to get. All right. Well, we're done with this. Let's talk about a little more of that in Unashamed overtime, which, by the way, you get to by going to blaishtive. It's how you subscribe to be able to get the OTA.
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