Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 434 | The Fastest Thing Phil Has Ever Seen Was 75 Years on the Earth & Jase’s Phone Policy

Episode Date: February 27, 2022

Phil cannot believe his eyes when he looks around and realizes he is 75 years and counting! Jase describes his complex schedule and life with a cell phone and how society has elevated these devices to be far too important in our daily lives. Phil and Jase discuss Darwin's theory of evolution and how explosions usually don't result in new exciting worlds brimming with new life. Sign up to watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed Get Uncanceled by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/Uncanceled-Finding-Meaning-Accusations-Condemnation/dp/1400230179 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? They had a wagon pulled up there in front of the First Baptist Church with hay, and I got up on the back of the people gathered up out there on the street, and I fireballed them. You were in my way. You were in a wagon in Bernice. It was about. Did you do like a duck call thing or something? Oh, yeah. It's an 1800 type.

You know, some guy, a preacher comes up out of the woods and, you know, gets a... There's a log cabin from 1865 that I found. You think that's where you were? Yeah. Well, I was on Main Street. Main Street, Bernie, Louisiana. I was out there on the street. So that was a...

Was there a big crowd there? Oh, that was a big crowd. I'm going to go try to find that place and see if they'll let me... Did you remember when you were speaking that you're... One of your sons was born there. Did you remember that? Did you know that? Yeah, I knew Willie was born there.

You know what? I'm surprised that you knew that, Phil. Well, that was from a bad era. Well, somebody told me he was born there. I wouldn't know it. But, I mean. You think it was Kay that told you that? Huh?

You think Kay told you that? Probably. Well, I had that baby. Where were you at? Bernie. Because you weren't there. But later, you're speaking in a wagon on an old place. I'm going to go look in the wagon 30 years.

Well, it's an interesting. Pre-conversion, Willie's birth, post-conversion, me preaching on the way. I need to get this show just to go back and follow you all around. Oh, my goodness. That's what I'm saying. But look, so here's what I remember about it. This is, Dad, you probably won't remember this either. So Willie was about, he was a baby, and he had bad croup when he was a baby and a kid.

So he had to go back in the hospital, the same one he was born in, In Bernice. but I still have just such a strong visual because they had him back in those days he was under a tent. It was like a little pup tent over his bed. And he was little. I mean,

he was only a year or two old because we were still living up in that area. So he was just a bad group but I just remember visited him in the hospital, you know? And of course,

you're too young to remember Jayce. I was probably about seven or eight. Yeah. Well, it's all making sense, no. Well, now there's a faded sign home of Willie Roberts. Yeah, I have a, I have a deep thought this one.

You're ready for Jase's? Deep thoughts by Jace. Deep thoughts. So I go get my, uh, my phone from the, from surgery and, you know, intensive care, whatever. I was, I was in the, in the bowels of the, you dreamed this. No, this is real life, Phil. Yeah. I told you last time we were together that you dream this. My phone, when I got to.

a new phone, it caused problems with the email on my computer. And basically neither one were functional. So you had to drop it off the nerds that work for Duck Commander. So Duck Commander, all the tech people, I walked in there. And look, I bought them lunch. I mean, I look at you. Well, I've just noticed that $20 bills gets people excited about whatever you want them. And by the way, That's a worldwide phenomenon because I've traveled all over the world. A $20 bill will do a lot of things. I'll yell some lunch. And so I go pick it up yesterday.

But it did make me, this is not the deep thought yet, but I did think, you know, I think a business idea that would work is if you created a hospital for phones. I'm never going to do this. That's why I'm throwing it out, but you can do it. I think they've got that already. Do they? Yeah. Do they have a husband?

They got it done to Josh. Yeah. It's like a, it's got like a. red cross on it. They've already done. That's embarrassing. You know what Solomon is... I was kind of kidding?

No, it's real. Josh, I find the name of... Well, you know where I had the idea? It's because when I went through the... When my teenage kids, I had a policy that you had to turn your phone in. I've talked about it before, but you had to turn your phone in when you came in if you were under the age of 18. The phone gets turned in here.

But I noticed about those kids, there were so attached. to it that the 10, they had to walk 10 steps. That was the, that 11th step. They would always pause. I just noticed. And I was like, so then I started implementing that in my speech. I was like, take 11 steps and forget it.

Because they would take five and they would stop. It's like, I was like, it's okay. They did not want to be away from that phone. They literally. It's like they were, in their mind, it had become part of their humanity. Yeah, it's part of their body. It's sad, really. You said, I'm leaving part of my arm, my brain.

And you know what I noticed? They'd come by and just look over there at it. Just to make sure it was still there. I just monitored their behavior about that phone. And that is why I was telling the guy yesterday, I had two, one hour apiece. One of them was an hour and 15 minutes. The other was an hour.

That's a long form. And they were somewhere, they were in California. But Phil, if you hadn't had it, you wouldn't hear you. But I was talking to them back in football. When we got to the point about how do you get this book? Where do you get it? I said, that is a good question. Where do you get the book?

I said, well, I'm not, I've never owned a computer or anything and no cell phone. So I said, Dan, what would be the wordage to? so someone can buy this book and Dan was lip syncing on that you know he was basically those you were listening that that's doing his hands as a set of lips yeah but you don't know what they were like they said you've never had a cell phone yeah I said not yet so is that the name of the deal CPR CepR cell phone repair but it's pretty clever CPR right like like this wasn't my deep problem I thought that would work as a business But I guess someone's already thought about it.

Well, you remember what Solomon said? There's nothing new, Jay. Because I was saying that kind of attachment to a device, no matter what it is, is a little much. Yeah, I agree. But here was my deep thought. It's part of their conscience. Here was my deep thought. If I didn't have to work with it, I wouldn't have one.

But I don't enjoy just being on it. No, but I have to work. Can I give my deep thought? All right, deep thought. All right. So what happened was they fixed, they had everything fixed by the time. went back up there. But then...

What is everything? Well, I could... You said they had everything fixed. Well, now, it's just one thing. It's a little thing about that long. Because I'm going to try to get into the details of this and you're going to have no idea what I'm talking about. When you started the conversation, I don't have any idea.

My hot spot... He's already there today. My hot spot wouldn't work. You ever had a hot spot not worked? I've never left anything where a group of individuals. were hovered around it and everybody's talking about what can we do to pick it's like a surrogie my email my email wouldn't work and my hotspot wouldn't work so my email wouldn't work on my phone what's the what's the hotspot what is that well that's why I said I don't want to get into this because you're

you're not I don't know how to explain that so anyway let's just say I had the problem how would you define a hot spot by the way I'm just took a quick glance I can't set my toes all the way up. I don't think I have a hot spot, like a button you can punch and what, it gives you heat? I don't know. Well, it's an interesting name. I'm kind of a heater. Can you help me explain a hotspot to?

They'll think about it. Send us a text on the phone. You know, if you think about it out, this is. We have our own nerds here today, by the way. What Jason is talking about, it is interesting that now. in the computer world that I live in, and, you know, being not having one, it's kind of interesting to know that there's a whole,

there's a complete, whole group of vocabulary that goes with these things. Oh, yeah. No, I agree with that. Well, like, a person like me, when people are talking about him, I'm out of the loop. I'm like, it's a whole new vocabulary

that's risen up in 20 years. That's what I'm saying. You're going to like where I'm going with this with deep thought. So anyway, They fix that. If we ever get there. But another problem developed. Oh, boy.

So we now have, what do you call that? So it's like they did a side effect. There's a side effect to the corrective surgery that happened. So all my recent contacts, and most of them were from the TV show because they're the most recent. You know, now I have all these TV people in my phone. It no longer recognized them in my phone. So I just have these random numbers. People start texting me, and I'm like, who is this guy?

And then I'm like, well, wait a minute. I've already put them in my phone, but now it's not registering their name. So I'm like, what's happened? So I call the, I call the geeks. You're back to the doctor. I say, okay, look, everything that we worked on, the surgery went great, and it's now functional. However, a byproduct of that is, now I can't recognize half the contacts in my phone. It's just the number.

So it was like a, hmm. By the way, you never like it when your doctor goes, hmm. No. What I'm saying is, is where do we go from here? Because I watched, you know, I watched CB, walkie-talkie. First telephone, telephone, walkie-talkie, CB, trucker, breaker, breaker, and they're running up down the road, conversion with each other. Then it jumped.

But when it made this. jump to the cell phone. First thing I thought, I wonder what the truckers are doing. Because the breaker breaker, one-nine. Yeah, that's not. What's your 20? What's your 20? I did see a trucker the other day.

It was going 50 miles an hour on interstate in the wrong lane. And I was like, because I hate to pass on, he was in the passing lane. Right. He's going 50 mile an hour. And so I got up beside him, I looked up, and he was on a cell phone. Oh, boy. And I was like, hey, get it. back to your CB radio.

You call the wreck. Blew the horn, you know. Then he looked up like, what are you blowing? How many wrecks do you think is associated directly with itself? Deadly. It's deadly. I mean, sadly, it's very deadly. So I'm getting to my deep thought.

So you know what the phone expert told me today? Turn your phone off and power it back up. I would have known this. So here's my. That's my only move. Here's my deep thought because last night, Miss and I was going to watch a movie. Turn it off to get it by the cone. Do you know what it hit me?

I thought even in cell phones and in technology, the way to fix things is a death, a burial, and a resurrection. That's my deep thought for the day. You've got, this has to die. Yep. And we got to give it us. She said, give it 10 seconds. And I was that, is that the burial process? That's where it hit.

me on this deep thump yeah and then you it's a fair assessment and then it it now they call it reboot but you know re boot what does that actually mean it dies or you say oh no my phone died oh no that's healthy for the phone it needs to go through this process of turning off because one of my sons last time when i was having some other problems he said well these problems are because you never turn it off and i was like well why would i turn it off it all it's I can, because I always silence my phone. It's never loud. Because it reboots it.

Well, we have a ritual with your mother, you know, whatever, old age is keeping in. We have a ritual because every day, you know, her little phone is about like that. Small. Yeah, it's a flip phone. So she loses her phone. So every day she comes in, turn off the TV for a minute. We don't want the air conditioner going. I need to be able to hear that.

I walked in on this this morning. So everybody stops. I saw it this morning. Everybody stops. Ms. Kay then calls herself. To find her phone. She gets on another phone, calls herself, and she's running around. I hear it.

Well, guess what? She said, guess where I was in a drawer? I said, why would you put it in a drawer? She said, I don't know. I don't remember, but I put it in a drawer. And then I, damn, it rigs. But every day, the hunt's on. That is a worldwide epidemic.

That is a worldwide epidemic. Look, we did the same thing on my phone one time and get the most obscure place that you think. You know where my phone was? In the freezer. I went in the freezer to get something, and I exchanged my phone for it and then closed it. I would think that's not good for your phone.

This Kate found hers in a refrigerator on the front porch. Maybe that's where the problem started. She went out there to get something out of the front porch refrigerator. erroneously she set a phone down inside the what we call an ice bark refrigerator she set that down in there and then we went around and finally we could hear it but we couldn't we finally so we finally zeroed in i said it sounds like it's coming out of this refrigerator which i know is impossible but i'm just saying we open it up and there it is beside the milk and the cream there's the phone i mean it's well i was it was comical let's take a break it was comical today i'm saying it's not worth the trouble that's

You're actually making a pretty good point. No, I agree. But you need it too. You don't have to have one, which I don't. So why would I, it be more confused. Life's confusing enough without adding that to it. Well, you're good because someone else has to have one near you. That's what I'm saying.

That's debatable because you're actually getting the benefits without. And you have a built-in nerd. So a couple of things. Either you got to have one of the cell phones or a Unic. I got the Unic, no problem. Yeah. You know, I guess, would be optional. So use your cell phone to connect your computer to the Internet.

That's the official definition from our crack staff. On hot spot. You use your phone. Yeah. To connect your computer to the Internet. Because I couldn't get my emails on my computer because my hotspot wouldn't work to use. Because when I'm out of town all the time. All are making life far, far too complicated.

Have we taken our break? Yeah, we did. I'm feeling better by talking to y'all who have computers. Just think, Dad, this is the whole part of, you have brain cells that are not having to be used to deal with any of this stuff. That's right. So, I mean, you're blessed. You're a blessed man. You don't feel bad.

I didn't know what they were talking about either. And I have one. I've had one for years. So I leave from over there. Mom is talking to me literally to the truck and to come over here to do the podcast. And she's got some workers doing some stuff on her front porch. but she's on the other end of the porch. And she calls me before I get over here.

And she says, the workers are, they're shooting guns over. They must have a snake over there. And I was like, well, I just left there. I didn't, they were just working. And she was over there. No, I hear them. They're shooting a gun. And then I thought him in.

I said, Mom, that's a nail gun. It's a gun of sorts. It is a gun. But they're just, they're nailing stuff up. She said, oh, well, that makes perfect sense. Well, I needed a gun this morning. So I get out and I hear this, oh, it was one of these geese that somebody in the neighborhood, they put two geese in the neighborhood.

But it was like a cry of pain. And I thought, why would that goose be doing that? So I'm walking toward the water. I hear the goose. Something catches my attention. And I look, and there's a fox in the sneak position on my neighbor's. Chicken house. But I didn't have a gun.

So you're watching the attempt in progress. Well, the goose is on a log sending out the alarm. You know. He's trying to let the chickens. The fox has got his what to the goose. He's like, I'm going after the chickens. But what disturbed me is that Fox looked at me and just like continued his, I would have thought he would just run off.

I think that's what happens when you're in a neighborhood. They get domesticated. That's right. He wasn't worried about you. Yeah. Because he's thinking, I'm fine here. You know what I did? The only thing I could think of, because I thought there's no way I'm going to get to the gun.

I mean, I just took off running right after. And he took off in, you know, I just, ah! So the old saying, there's a fox in the hen house? It was daylight, you know? Yeah. I mean, it was just after daylight. But the thing is, though, if he's creeping around in daylight, Jay's,

You may have got him today, but he's going to get them chickens. Oh, he's going to get it. And look, I've got a project. I've already been by your neighbor's house when there was a blood bath there once before. Yeah. Well, I know who did it, you know. I sent him a text, and I was like, I just, you know, ran a fox out. He was out of town, actually.

It's a great family. But he was like, oh, no. He said, how many casualties? I sent him a text. I was like, actually zero. You know, they were locked. Well, the last time it happened, Lisa and I were walking by their house. We were walking in the neighborhood.

And I heard the office wailing and crying. I mean, it scared me. I thought, you know, I went up and I knocked on the door because I thought something had happened to one of them. It was awful. And Katie opened the door. And, of course, she's crying. And I said, are you okay? Is there something we could do?

And then she just had to gather herself. And the kids are wailing on the floor. She said, our chick. chickens. And I looked over. I looked over and it was just a blood bath in their chicken coop. But I mean, they took it like very personal. Well, look, you know, you get attached to them.

And they work it. Like, they have all that. So they teach their boys how to do stuff. I mean, they're a great family. I love that. They have a suburbism with paved roads going everywhere. But it's a glimpse of the past. It is, it is.

And they try to. Well, what's funny is, you know, before our little duck show that it was frowned upon to have farm animals because of the... We had an episode about that. And now they, you know, they were so embarrassed that they removed that rule.

That's right. But they, it's like they did it because now it's like organically cool. Right. So, I mean, who knows? But I don't even know

who's in charge anymore of all that. Oh, there's somebody. Is it Johnny? I think he is. Yeah, which is Willie's father-in-law. Yeah. Because it used to be Randy,

but we bought Randy's house. So he was on the show. I think Johnny. I guess it must be. so dad's uh chuck one of our listeners sent me a verse and uh i want to read it to you some one of our listeners finally found the verse for what department in seawater you know you're always saying we have a verse yeah that was so there is a proof text for for your uh what department in saltwater it says isaiah 23 4 and listen to this Isaiah 23 4 be ashamed

O Sidon, and you, O fortress of the sea, for the sea has spoken. And then in quotes, this is the sea speaking, I have neither been in labor nor given birth. I have neither reared sons nor brought up daughters. I've never read that before. I was not familiar with that, but I have used the argument. What department in salt water? Isaiah 23. Oh, four.

But I was on the right track. And in the Bible, the sea says, I have birthed no one. I have reared no children. I don't make life. That's right. So excellent work, Joe. We have a great...

Carl Marx, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, you know, I've already forgot the three things. Get them confused on the age of the earth was the first one. You know, tell them to depend on saltwater, the fountain of life. If you're going to take over their mind, start there. Yeah, get rid of God. Yeah, all these dictators that kill millions and millions of people, they said embrace what Karl Marx said.

Yep. That's right. Well, you have to. What was his name, not Karl Marx? He embraced it. You're talking about Darwin? Darwin. Yeah.

Charles Darwin. You embrace what he said, and you can win them over. And Darwin even said in the theory of evolution that it's just a theory. It's a theory. It's a theory. I could be wrong. He said that. I got a letter from, you know, I suppose.

I spoke Tallahassee a while ago. Thank you for that verse, my man. That was Chuck. I spoke in Tallahassee a while ago. And so my in-laws evidently had a friend that's from Tallahassee and they were going to go, but they couldn't for some reason, gave their tickets to their maybe nephew or, you know, a young guy. Yeah, yeah.

But she sent a letter and she's like, he had never made a decision, Even though he'd been raised in church, you never made a decision to accept Jesus. But it just, in the letter, it was like, there was something in the speech that I gave that was his problem with not pursuing Jesus, and it was all around creation. It was a long letter.

But it was very encouraging. Yeah. But because the letter was like, the more he thought about it, because I do a little, especially at community events. I mean, look, the powers in the gospel and what Jesus did, that was God's idea.

But if you can disarm some of these crazy arguments about how we got here, because some people, it's kind of like, when we talked about idolatry, in his mind, he had it worked out to where creation, as the Bible says, wouldn't work in his mind. So therefore, he's nullifying everything else. However, a few simple humanity questions, how did you get here?

Yep. You know, going through the, I went through the deal about the explosion. It's like, I mean, y'all saw from our duck show, we blew up a lot of things, and I have blown up a lot of things. I've never had an explosion go off, and then it turned into perfect order and chemistry. And that's what you're selling me? that nobody made the explosion, no intellect,

and we have an explosion, and it sets in motion a chain of events that creates everything we see. Harmony and complete life and order on a planet with all these features that are down to the detail even being far enough away from the sun. Oh, the tilt of the earth. Gravity and life.

This happened from an explosion. That's what you're going with? And then try to get me to believe, which is just too much, and point to a gigantic pool of water, three-fourths of the thing is water, and just point out there and you say, and that that came out of the explosion is our maker. And then your ex-sohn's water made us.

I'm like, I said, that's hard to believe, man. Then your exit strategy is that, you know, you die. Yep. Can't no U-Hauls behind the hearse. You can't take it in there with it. So, oh, well, we're going to evaporate into energy. The energy that wasn't there that caused the explosion, but can be there now. Just hovering someplace.

This is my speech. I'm like, this is what you're going with. This is what you're basing your decisions on. You're betting your life. on it. Let's take a break. So anyway, somewhere in that, I mean, I wasn't making fun of it. I'm just like, this is what they're teaching.

Because I did it because look, they say, it's a college town. And I'm like, so what do you go to college for? Well, you go to high school, what, to learn stuff? And then somebody says, oh, wait, oh, wait, you need to learn some more stuff. So you go learn some more stuff. Then you go out there and you can't get a job. And they're like, why? You know stuff.

Yeah, but you got to know the right people. It's not how much you know It's who you know We all heard that you get in with the right person What happens if you get in with the wrong person? You wind up in jail So I did all that Show and then what?

You finally make some money So you can do what? Retire Then what? That's it? This is your plan? This is what you're teaching? That's it.

And you know it's interesting Because when I was, I went to college Most of my college years were after I had gone to school of preaching and was working with the church. I was going back to knock out my degree. So I'm older. I'm in my 30s and firmly in faith. So I'm sitting there listening to my college professor describing the theory of evolution. And it was really great because I got to hear what they're laying out.

And they were basing this whole big thing off of this bone, leg bone, that they found in Africa and they recreated this whole person around a leg bone that was this person called Lucy and we spent two weeks talking about Lucy who was built out of a leg bone

and I was sitting there thinking so I mean just the whole thing is built on somebody found a leg bone and so we're going to build a whole person that was the connector from the animal world to being a human being but I mean this person was miraculously all stopped

connect This guy believed it. Yeah. I mean, to him, it seemed to make perfect sense. And I was just, I was like you were just describing. I was just sitting there thinking, this is, this is what you got? I mean, they shovel it. Look, the reason people are open to it, because then, if that's true, that means you

you can live however you want to. Right. It's just harder. Look, living a surrendered life is just harder. It's harder to say, you know what? I just, I really don't. I don't know what happened here. outside of God making it I mean there it's just too complicated right to try to work and so

swallow all that stuff if you want to just live however you want to I mean that's sure I've got a little more I guess respected call it I guess a little more understanding of an agnostic who says I don't really I don't want to go Bible and all that but there has to be something out there I mean that person is not a full-blown atheism it was like it all came from that place it's just nonsensical I mean you These crazy heads. I mean, a lot of them in Hollywood, they're just like, oh, we're the energy that floats around. But there was no intelligent before.

It just doesn't add up, you know. I think a lot of those conversations, Jace, are happening while people are taking drugs and smoking pot or whatever. Like, everybody's got, everybody's got all kinds of big ideas when everybody's stoned. I think, but I think it's more about success. The more successful you are, how much money, the smarter you think you are. That's true. And then you're like, we're actually, we are the gods, because they're living like a God on earth in their mind.

And they have plenty of money. They feel like they're controlling the world culture and what they create. The problem is they can't, even though they probably had every plastic surgery known to man, at some point, it's just going to stop work. It's not going to work anymore. What did you say, Dad, protect that neck. You can't do anything about the neck. And really, it does it.

joy it's a sense of hollowness there and yeah because you can't it doesn't bring joy i mean fastest thing that's ever happened to me is to live 75 years look back look back at my little childhood a glimpse of my childhood and look from the time i remember when i was a little boy to right now added up 75 years Al, I'm telling you, it was like this. Just that quick. So when James says it's a vapor, a wisp. I am shocked that the 75 years went so rapidly. Yep.

I'm shocked. I thought, man, this one-shot deal with the almighty winner take all. I'm looking at it. And boy, now I have a deep, deep respect for what these texts say in this Bible. Yeah. because it's you know we haven't heard a word from god as far as anything written down since these writings we have in the new testament right god has not said another word right he's saying you know in the past god worked with the prophets through many times

various ways but in these last days he's spoken to us by his son so the last word we have from god is pay attention to what jesus said he ain't going to stay long he didn't stay but 33 years i which was I mean, about that quick. Half. Less than half of a word. You think that's why he said. I mean, he is the word. Yeah.

So. I think when he's saying, in the beginning. We have everything to gain. We have absolutely nothing to lose except mischief and mayhem and hell on earth. So we kind of retreat back and we follow Jesus, you know. And it's a pretty exciting ride. I mean, over there's persecution comes from and all that. We take it in stride.

So, yep. Yep. we're on the right road they're mad again we're trying to make them glad and they're saying well y'all make me all make us mad i'm like well i'm sad because you're mad you ought to just take a look at it won't you be glad won't you be glad but think about jays this has got a doctor phil says doctor phil sad and glad it all works out in 75 years i've seen it come and go and i'm like you know what I'm sad by what you're telling me whoever's doing the talking at the time, you know.

But yesterday, though, a couple of interviews and they went well and the guys were fair. And they said they identified themselves in California and I was thinking, uh-oh, here you go. But no, not at all. They were just as nice as they could be. And I told them what I believed. Every time they'd ask me a question, I'd read a Bible verse.

They'd ask me another question. I'd read another Bible verse. that asked a question, I read a Bible or her. I just thought it would be better that way, you know, in my opinion, what I think, well, that doesn't amount to nothing. I just said, well, let me read you about this. These are old writings, and I'd read them a verse or two, and then I'd read them a verse or two. But we went back and forth, you know, but to their credit, I was treated very fairly.

Well, let's take a break. One of the things I've noticed that in my travels, because it's kind of been ironic the last couple of years, I'm mostly going to what the people on a map call the blue states, which are democratically controlled states, which is what you mentioned, California, Illinois, northeast. And it's amazing because every time I go, I mean, there's a packed house of people that are living there. And you have these ideas like, because you see something come out of the capital or whatever. But I mean, behind enemy, I always tell me, I said, I parachuted an end behind enemy lines and I found the light. There are people all over the country in these states that they just, it's unfortunate.

It's like the ones I met in Southern Illinois. They're being controlled by everybody in Chicago in the politics of that. But these are just great people, good Christian folks, you know, but they just happen to live in a place that has, you know, not the best leadership. But the true enemy is, I mean, Fais and say it's not flesh and blood. You know what I mean? It's the spiritual forces of evil. And you'll find that in every state. I don't care what color it is.

But, you know, I told those, I spoke to a bunch of church leaders in Illinois, and I told them, I said, you guys, I'm sure it gets a little bit tough. You're in small farm towns. Churches don't grow fast because communities aren't grow. I mean, a lot of people have left. I said, but I'm telling you something, you keep doing what you're doing because I think we're going to have a reset at some point. It's already started in some states. And these people are going to come out of these hellscape big cities. They're going to get tired of living that where the crime is so bad.

There's a exodus right now. You know where they're going to go? They're going to go someplace. Raise their family and not have to have all this. I'm seeing more and more of that. It makes me feel better about the whole thing. Me too. And so I think that's what I told them and said, look, you guys, I'm here to encourage you.

I mean, keep preaching the gospel. You know, keep the flock you have, you keep tending it. But trust me, they're going to be people. They're going to come. They're going to come. And when they come, they're not going to know anything about the Bible or about God. And you're going to be the ones that tell them. So that's my encouragement.

to anybody's out there because you start thinking, well, man, I don't know, nothing seems to be growing or happening where I'm at. But look, if you continue to be committed to God, people, they'll come. At some point they'll go, we see them come every week, don't we, Dad? I mean, they come from all over the country. We sure do. I bet two families, Jay, Sunday. One was from Idaho. One was from Indiana. And they were visiting WFR, and I preach Sunday. And they were like, well, you know, we're, Ms. Grace has taken us around. We're looking for property here. I said, y'all gonna move to us or no and they were like yeah they said it's too cold where we are and we don't have any we don't have a good church setting and we want to come here and i was like well come on you know so it's pretty amazing i was at a bed and breakfast type thing yesterday and they got because i was scouting for the show just to see if it was an old place and uh the guy was he said he when we introduced ourselves he was like well i'm a retired I just retired.

I was like, oh, really? And, but he's like, you can come, you can look at my place anytime. I mean, I'm open for the public. And I was, the more we got to talking, of course, I told, he asked me what I do. I said, well, we have a podcast, but he had never heard of it. But the more he got to talking, because I was like, well, where have you been? You know, what kind of pastor were you? And he's like, well, started a few churches and all.

But the more he talked, the more I felt like. the more I felt like he just had kind of been just beaten up by organized religion. Yeah, a lot of people like that. It seems sad the more I listen to him. And he's like, you know, I finally just decided I retired from that. But what my wife and I want to do now is use this place to bring, you know, the world in. And we're just going to share Jesus with the world. And I was like, I like that plan.

That's a good plan. Old John Adams had it right way back. you know what second or third president of the united states he said when he read what james madison when he hammered out the constitution he said this constitution was written for a religious and moral person people and he said it is wholly inadequate for any other so they've just been eaten away at the constitution for the last 50 years really and it's accelerated so and what you now have is the results of that And it's not a pretty picture.

No. And I think it'll play itself out. You fixed to find out where the godly are here in the next 30 years. So we had a state trooper that has retired that was he and his family were through a few weeks ago. He gave me this. This was a patch off of his uniform to give to us because he said we were such an impact on his life spiritually. And he's out of Connecticut? Connecticut.

Boy, that's a. And he was traveling. He and his family were traveling all around the country. And one of their stops was Westwell-Nose so he could give me that patch for us. I mean, it's just, it's very humbling for us. Yeah. What I brought that up for is, because, you know, we're in First Corinthians, and it really comes down to a love problem.

You can have all these things that you think you're right on, because it's been difficult. Some of the things we're talking about in First Corinthians, I mean, look, we're giving our best shot here on trying to understand their culture and what was going on. Right. But these people that are running around trying to get everything, Theologically right or claiming to be

Right on everything It won't matter if you don't love If you don't love God and you don't love people And I feel like the further we're getting into Corinthians and the reason I keep bringing up this This point that Paul keeps bringing up about This is relational I mean I think the last thing I read last time

Was when in 1 Corinthians 12, 4th, He said, there are different kinds of gifts, but the same spirit. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men. Why is he making it a point to name the three aspects of the Trinity here? I mean, why would he be doing that? Right. I mean, and he does it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Because really it's what Jesus said. when you lose that that relational aspect of it that's why he said well what commands shall we keep they were trying to trap him he said love god with all your heart soul mind strain love your neighbors i mean the part he's not saying is if you do that and you love your neighbors yourself you'll figure the rest of it out yep yep what else was his point right and so here you got in corin same thing and the reason i brought up that guy about that I seem like you've been beat up is the same concept. He said, boy, I've been involved in more arguments and church splits and people getting mad over this. And so I brought up what we're doing in Corinthians. You know, I was like, maybe you should listen to our podcast.

I was like, because I guarantee you whatever you went through wasn't as bad as what was going on at Corinth. They had forgotten the gospel and they didn't love anybody. Which is kind of interesting. Let's take our last break. Which is kind of interesting, Jay, is because the. the, you know, what you just described is that's kind of our reboot and our walk. If we get off track somehow, if the reboot is, am I loving God fully and am I loving other people? Because usually if you have some kind of breakdown, it's going to break down in one of those two areas.

Whenever I was preaching Sunday in my conclusion of my lesson, because I was on that, it was in First, Corinthians is nine. And you remember that's where he's laying out kind of his case about giving up his liberties. And at the end is that thing about the Isthmus games where he talks about training. And I said, you know, there are three, I've identified three adversaries because when you're running the race, you're not really running against other people because you're all trying to finish. So he makes the point. It's not like a typical race where other people are your competitors. And I mentioned the Boston Marathon. Lees and I were there.

Everybody's just trying to finish. Somebody did win the race. Yeah. But nobody knows who that person is except race people. everybody else they were like i finished i finished and there was joy and finishing so i said there's three adversaries that try to block your your race you're running of your race one is yourself because that's the biggest hurdle that you have to get over is your own self james three where you have envying selfish ambition there you find disorder and every evil practice exactly and so i said

so some of you out here today you're listening and you're thinking man that's me and i said but you know the reboot is love God, love your neighbor, and stay humble. If you do those three things, you're going to be on the right track. The second one was your peers, the people who you surround yourself with. Because I said, if you're around a bunch of bitter, jealous, angry people, you're going to have a hard time winning the race, you know, finishing. And then the third one was, of course, the evil one because he's constantly working against you, trying to trip you up.

So it was really a good way to finish that idea. But you spark that when you said that a minute ago because you're right. That's the hardest part is to break it back down to that place. Well, he gets there. I mean, you know, when he gets to 12, he's like the body's a unit. And though it is made up of many parts and though all its parts are many, they form one body. Because what was their biggest problem the whole time?

Divisions. Right. They were all divided up when they weren't recognized that we're going to have God as our father, were sons and daughters, that's going to affect our relationships with the husbands and wives. That's why all this is going into that and your sons and daughters. You're going to have Jesus as your Lord. We're all going to unite on making Jesus known, and we're going to be carried along by the Holy Spirit. Right.

So evidently, the divisions were coming because that wasn't what we were united on. Everything else should launch from there. That's why when I go to other churches, I say, let's unite on what I just got through saying. And I'm not really worried about the rest of it at this point. It makes people, they can't stand that, you know, religious people, and they hear that because they're like, well, I don't agree with that or I don't agree with that. But I've never been to a church in my life where I agreed with 100% everything that was said 100% of the time. It's never happened in my life. If that's what you're searching for, you're going to wind up alone in a cabin in the woods.

Angry. and mad at the world and God's not going to be using you. That's not what this is about. It's about us, despite our differences, coming together. So then he says that so it is with Christ. I mean, this is an interesting phrase here.

Maybe you can give your opinion on it out. For we were all baptized by or with or in is what mine says. In one spirit, into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, bond or free and we were all given the one spirit to drink. So what you think?

Well, I think he's going back to the same imagery that he used back in chapter 10. Yeah, when he said they were baptized into the cloud? The cloud and the water, you know, the sea on the other side. I mean, I always thought this was like baptism,

you know, we're going back to born a water and spirit or... Well, and then he said, remember when he said even the nurse, you got out of the rock, that was Jesus. You know, it's the idea about living water. So I think the idea was that God has always provided a way for us to be able to experience this idea of not only of salvation, but also working with other people.

And he pointed even all the way back to when they came out of slavery in Israel, which was interesting. So I think it's just an extension of that idea. I was thinking, you know, that when Jesus used baptism of the Holy Spirit in the Gospels, he was predicting what would happen, I believe, in Acts 2. When the spirit was unleashed, poured out, you know, why is something poured out so you can drink it? So when it says in the end of verse 13, and we are all given the one spirit to drink. Yeah.

I thought this was more in line with what happened in Acts 238. Because if you read Acts 2, I mean, maybe I'm. thinking too simplistic here but uh when you read acts to 33 when he's sharing jesus peter first sermon here post jesus leaving he said jesus was exalted to the right hand of god he has received from the father the promised holy spirit and poured out what you now see in here right so they were baptized with the Holy Spirit there was fire. So now he's writing a letter to the Corinthians, and he's trying to get them to realize they're all housing one spirit.

Right. Different people, one spirit. So I thought it was like I said about the phone. It's the reboot. It's the rebirth. You die, you're buried, you're resurrected. God puts the spirit in you, and now you, despite your differences, we're working together for the common good.

And the way you ascertain that is whether they love one another or not, which they had a problem with that. Dear friends, here's John. He says it best, this would have been perfect for the Corinthians to read. Dear friends, let us love one another. For love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born to God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God because God is love. This is how God showed his love among us.

He sent his one and only son and to the world, that we might live through him. This is love. Not that we love God, and what Paul keeps trying to get the Corinthians to see, but that he loved us and sent his son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. Dear friends, since God so loved us,

we also ought to love one another, the Corinthians had not were not putting that into practice no one's ever seen God regardless of all the stories you hear no one has ever seen God according to John Apostles speaking by the power of the spirit but if we love each other you're like no one's ever seen him but if we love each other God lives in us and his love is made complete in us we know that we live in him and he and us because he's given us of his spirit which goes back to the prayer jay started we were all baptized by one spirit

into one body jews greeks whatever give the same spirit the drink and we've seen and testified that the father has sent his son to be the savior of the world it's not rocket science i mean i added that he doesn't say anything about rocket science if anyone acknowledges that jesus is the son of god He came in flesh, died on a cross, buried, and raised. God lives in him, and he and God. And so we know, and here's one that most people forget, and rely.

We rely on the love God has for us, because without his mercy and sacrifice through Jesus, becomes flesh, keeps the law perfectly, dies to get us out of abundant. He's going to say in the next letter, God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him, and 1 Corinthians, what Jesus said we're all baptized by one spirit, in Him, we might become the righteousness of God.

So you put it all together, you say it's really not complex, but it is rather profound when you're looking at it and you're saying, yeah, I agree. Except for the Spirit, him giving us, if he had not, not giving us to spit, Al, we would be floundering around to this day. Well, and to Jason's point, it's the perfect unity that you see within the Godhead itself. That's right. It is, but the previous paragraph's going to be a little more complex because he said to each one,

the manifestation of the spirit is given for the coming good. Different gifts. And you have different gifts. Well, some of them are miraculous. And your gift, Jays, may be greater than my gift, but I need to learn to say, I don't care. That's it. It's all right.

Let's talk about that in the overtime segment because I want to get into. Yeah, because you get into, well, are these miracles still happening today? Right. They were given here. Was it just because the apostles were alive? And, you know, so it's an interesting thing. I know one thing. Whoever's doing it.

Verse 11 says, the spirit's determined in that. Exactly right. So it's not up to us. All right, we'll talk about that in our unashamed overtime segment. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube

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