Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 440 | Phil and Jase Disagree About Earth & Phil Connects News of Jesus with the Gift of Tongues

Episode Date: March 9, 2022

Phil explains why he believes the Earth is roughly 7,000 years old, while Al and Jase share a much different opinion on Earth's age. Phil makes a great point about how news of Jesus was rapidly spread across multiple regions with different languages around the same time that the Bible mentions the spiritual gift of tongues. Al discusses the theory of evolution and how it was used to strengthen his faith in the Lord. And Jase describes love and how its attributes are usually perceived by non-believers as signs of weakness, when they are actually incredibly strong and desirable characteristics. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed Get Uncanceled by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/Uncanceled-Finding-Meaning-Accusations-Condemnation/dp/1400230179 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jay's this last weekend was kind of a, I don't know, I guess as you get older, you get a little bit nostalgic and weep here in your old age. So I took, I took, well, actually took four of my grandkids, but the two littles, they're too little to remember it. But Corby, who's my namesake, he's seven. And then B.K., who's four, So we went to their first time to visit the LSU campus And we went to a gymnastics Meet on Friday night

I never even knew LSU I'm not a big gymnastics guy So I didn't even know they had a gymnastics team But then I noticed they were ranked this year Oh they're amazing yeah I just missed it somehow But anyway so we went to the meet They were they were competing against Kentucky And look

Now you were down there we Because you have a kid in there? No, I just took them, we just met there. I came up from Gulf Shores. They wanted to go to a game. The basketball team was playing Saturday morning, and so we went Friday night to the gymnastics meet, spent the night, and then went to the basketball game.

They played Alabama. Oh, that was good. Which is one of the best games I've ever seen in the Def Dome. Anyway, so we go to the gymnastics meet, and again, I'm not fully, you know, I've watched some of the Olympics, so I know kind of what they're doing. But what shot me was when I come in,

the place is packed. We're talking about... They're good. I know. But I just, I don't know. It was like, to me, it was like, whoa, 12,000 people watched them gym. Man, fired up. I'm into it.

I'm yelling at the right times. You don't even know what's happening, but you're cheering. Oh, I'm, when they're cheering, I'm cheering. Yeah. So we... This is one of the most bizarre stories. So look, we get to... So they all gets worse.

So, like, I'm kind of figuring out the scores because they're competing on different elements at the same time. And then they switch to those other elements. So it's kind of hard to keep track of the score, but I know it's close. Which into what elements? Well, you got the floor exercise. You got the beam. You got the double bars.

And you got the vault. There's four things. All right. So we get in this. I know it's close. And LSU's best gymnast on the beam fell off when she stepped out. And everybody go, hoo-hoo. Oh, it was, yeah.

It was bad. So, you know, she should have gotten like a 9-8. was she got a 9-2, which shows you how good she was, because even falling off, she made a 9-2. I think if you fall off, you should be zero. Well, it gets worse. So then, so when Kentucky's doing the beam, there's six girls that do the beam.

So the fifth girl is on the beam, she falls off. So again, it was kind of like a, oh, but then a few people were clapping. I thought, oh, you know, that's kind of rough, you know, but yeah. That's horrible. I know, no, it gets worse. So she falls off. And she gets back on, everybody cheers, which I thought, well, that's good sportsmanship there. She does her big finish, but she just hits her foot wrong on the end, just on her butt when she lands.

I mean, it's just like an awkward bat with like me trying to get off of the thing. So you're thinking, okay, it's over. We just won. Because, you know, we're down to the last couple of gymnasts on both days. Well, nobody, everybody kind of was holding it together pretty good. So then, so somebody else does their thing, the sixth girl does her thing. then the announcement comes across the referee is decided because of an equipment malfunction

she gets to go again oh boy and I thought we're not at the Olympics now the booze began to rain down I was uncomfortable because I was like is it socially acceptable to boo a gymnast? I mean how do you have equipment? Oh she meant like on the bars or whatever on the beam but but here's what I don't understand

about that. All the LSU girls and then four girls before her had all used the same beam. Well, it's a two by six. How could there be an equipment? That's what I said. And I've never, you know, how are you going to go? It's not like it was on ESPN that night, so I couldn't get the, you know, what happened. But she goes again and winds up going from a zero, which is what was there the whole time, to a 9.8.

Well, they win, barely. Oh, so you lost. Oh, we lost. So the booze are raining. And I couldn't boo. I was like, it's just too, but I can't. But the gymnasts, they're so little dainty, you know. I'm sure there wasn't any four little words.

There was a lot going on. I thought, well, I'll tell you what, gymnastics is like every other LSU sport. It's win or get after. But then we were walking out when we left the whole thing. Basketball game was awesome. LSU won in overtime. So we were walking out. I was walking out with Corby.

So Corby, what do you think about your first LSU experience? Because we went and visited Mike the Tiger and looked around the campus. He said, Pap, it was. great. The basketball game was so good. I love Mike the Tiger. I can't wait to come back and see a football game, but I also know now why we don't watch gymnastics.

He said that. I mean, I thought I was going to fall out laughing. I said, well, you really are. I don't know if I've ever watched gymnastics. That was probably my first and last. I mean, it was exciting up until that point, but again. I think it would be more entertaining if like. But here's the problem.

People who wrestle, you know, the wrestling, because I got into that. for a few years if they went out and tried to do this right now that would be entertained oh wouldn't that be funny to see a bunch of rednecks that was uh that was quite the cold open that's why i know dad's got a hot take that was my cold over but look jays so what i thought about was you know when you compete you know at any level you know i mean people or people get excited about it i mean but what i liked about that situation was i saw those young people in there and especially young girls, you know, going to LSU and, you know, watching athletics. So I thought, well, that was pretty good.

I mean, gymnastics is the reason I don't like gymnastics in terms of as a fan to watch is because there's judges. And anytime there's judges. All right. You know, I mean, if you're just competing, like then, I realize you have some controversy calls in football or basketball, but when it comes down to what the judges think and we don't know who they are. That's the same thing with the skating thing.

Right. They'd jump around. Judge said, oh, you know, I'll give it 8.9. Actually, that was a pretty good lead end to what I'm fixing to discuss. Well, perfect. Please tell us. I'm always glad when I can set you up, Dan. Well, in lieu of that, of what I'll say about the gymnastics,

throw in this factor. This is just a good warm-up to what I allude to here in a minute. But in lieu of the gymnastics, if you think about it, it's a wonder that you can do those things on the beach. They're doing things on the beach.

It's four inches wide. Four inches wide. It's like this. And they're twirling and flurly and to hit balance and all that. So gravity, the law of gravity,

becomes quite apparent when you're doing something like what you're saying. Correct. On the two inch, whatever. You're jumping around. Yeah, exactly.

While that was going on, I'll, I doubt there were any people in the audience that did not realize that as the girls were doing this on the beach and doing the twirls and all of that, what no one probably stopped and thought about is that at the very time this was going on, we'll use these. This is the sun. Yeah, he has sunglasses. And we're on planet Earth, and they're jumping up and down on the thing, trying to stay on this. And then you've picked up sunglasses, and you're saying that represent. The sunglasses are the sun.

As this is happening. We were in flight, planet Earth. Going around the sun. Going around the sun. How fast are we going? I'm fixed to say it. Oh, okay. This way, look, it's spinning like this, Jace, like this, as it's going around.

Clockwise? That's counterclockwise. That's 1,040 miles an hour. We're spinning. Oh, he's been clockwise or counterclockwise? We're spinning in a direction to whereby the sun appears when Louisiana comes around to it, that part of the continent. When we get to a certain point, we start saying it's the sun's coming up, but not really.

We're just spinning and we are now able to see it. Right. We see the sun 12 hours, and then as we go around, we start going away, and we're saying the sun's going down. It's sundown. We're actually just spinning the other way. We're just spinning away from it. But it's actually coming up over in Asia. That's right.

So we're traveling. The planet is going 1,040 miles an hour. Like a top. Yeah. Now, just think of 120, you kick it in, you get your car, you're driving on Interstate 20, you get it up to 120 miles an hour. you're saying I am we don't recommend you're already traveling at 1,040 miles an hour a spin and it's not slinging any of us off of it gravity that you're like so as it goes around the sun here's the sun again as we go around it we're spinning like this a thousand 40 miles an hour

this this going around part we're going round and round it takes through 365 days in a few hours, leap year, whatever. But you start right here. 365 days later, you're back around where you started. You're traveling that speed at 66,400 miles an hour. As you're spending 1,040, you're also going at 60,000 miles an hour. They've proved every bit of this. So you're spinning a thousand, but you're moving 60,000?

We're moving at the same time as we go around the sun. As we're spinning, we're also moving around a huge, huge circle. And the trip you take once a year, we all take it. Yep. The trip you take is 584 million miles before you get back around to where you start. And you say you never travel. We all are big time travelers. So we wound up in the same place we started?

Yep, and the whole thing is moving away, and we're traveling at 60,000 miles a mile. We're moving away from what? Moving away from going out across the cosmos. You're spreading like this. So the universe itself is flat, but it's spreading as we're standing. And we have these planets, we're in a line of planets, and all the planets on our right and left going round and round.

I only make that point to say. That's quite a point. Whatever the point of the point was, that was a big point. Hold on. At the same time. Let me get on the edge of myself. At the same time, all this traveling is going on at an incredible speed.

Because the key to it, my point is you don't even have a sensation of moving. It feels like we're just perfectly still right now. Look. this this is not moving and we're not moving look and watch watch gravity

that's gravity you said without that you got problems we'd be spinning off of it it would sling you in every direction I only bring that up for my atheistic friends and the agnostics of the world

that any way you want to slice it is incredible design right it's incredible You're like, good, not a little. Now look, and the earth, it's spinning at 1,040, moving at 66,000. The earth itself, watch, it's got about 23.439-281 degrees.

It's like this. Tilted. It's tilted slightly. As it's been. Roughly of 23, 24 degrees. You say, why? What if that was just straight up and down? No good.

We're dead. We're dead. All of us are dead. You're like, well, it seems like this thing. That's, we're just to be here. It's one of the most dangerous things you could ever put together. The key to it is that took to all my atheistic friends, we love y'all, but that took designed to make that happen.

Any way you want to slice it. Now, from there, you use. You pick up a Bible, which a lot of you don't do, I recommend you pick up a Bible if you're an agnostic or an atheist, and just think about these things. Or if you know one. Yeah. The first sentence, in the beginning,

God created the heavens and the earth. And then I gave me just an explanation of what the earth is doing in lieu of the sun being where it is, 93 million miles away. You're like, boy, this, that took. precise design or it's chaos and you're dead and a heartbeat. So one of the things that came up... Hang on, Dad, before we go to the next point, let's take a break. And now we get to the coal open that gets a little hotter.

You begin in Genesis with the sentence. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. He either did that and this thing's got a lot of design any way you want to slice it. You say, well, if he didn't create it, whatever system turned out and the earth, You say, what about Mars and what about Jupiter and Venus and both sides of us and Mars? You say, what about these planets? They've researched them, Al. And guess where they found any life?

Guess where life is what they found? Just where we are? Just where we are. Both sides of us, no. They've sent rovers to Mars, drove around, looked around. They said, hmm. You said, did they find a trace? of a living organism, none, zero.

They found nothing, just earth. I think it's worthy of note. Now, you start reading through Genesis, and you get to Genesis 11, which has become part of what I'm going to say here. Genesis 11, verse 1, the whole world, now just think about that.

The whole world had one language and a common speech. Now, we're over in 1st Corinthians chapter 11, where people were gifted to speak languages they had never studied. But that begins in Acts chapter 2. So do these three things, for y'all are out there who want to do a little Bible study.

Go to Romans, I mean, to Genesis 11 and read the statement the whole world had one language and a common speech. I'm saying to you, there were two great events in the history of the Bible. It answers a lot of questions the atheists have because they scratch their head because, you know what they want to know, Al? Where did all these languages come from? I don't believe God made it. I believe humanity crawl out of the ocean.

Well, if they crawl out of the ocean, I guess the ocean in its commonality, whatever you want to call it, but show you the ocean, for some reason or another, it made everybody to speak in one language. Well, that's the way it was for a while. But you get to Genesis 11 and a strange thing happens. As men moved eastward, they found this is absolutely. after the flood. And these are descendants of Noah's sons that came off the boat. From these, the nations spread out over the earth after the flood.

That comes before the tower of Babel. The whole world had one speech. As men moved. These were found a plane in Shinar and settled there. They said to each other, give us some bricks and let's build ourselves the city with a tower that reaches to the heavens. and we'll make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth. We got this one language.

We want to keep that. We don't want to move. We want to stay right here and show everybody how great we are. But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower that the men were building. And the Lord said, as one people, speaking the same language, there it is again, they have begun to do this. Then nothing they plan to do. will be impossible for him. Come, let us go down, this is God, let us go down, and they've scattered all over the earth, and it says, that's why it's called Babel, come let us go down, verse

seven, and confuse their language so they will not understand each other. It's the beginning of all the dialects that you see that humanity has. and there's a lot of them. I don't know how many dialects, but somebody would know that. Look it up. And you say, all these different dialects, what's the point here?

Will you go from there? That's where all the languages came from. Because think about it. If you're an atheist, you say, well, when Saltwater made them, he made all of them speaking the same language, but God stepped in. And now you have, how many,

hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of different languages. Well, it starts to make a little sense. You hear nothing more about that until Jesus shows up in flesh, God in flesh, he dies on a cross, he's buried, and he's raised from the dead. What's interesting is, in the midst of all that,

the kingdom was near. Well, these people had languages from all over the world, because back to Babel. God reached down and gave them all these different tongues so they wouldn't make some plan some scheme to show how great they are. So when you get to the book of Acts, one of the things you see that come out of it that's right in the middle of it. Acts chapter 2, this is the only time the languages are brought up again,

all the way back to Genesis 11, thousands of years. A lot of people are old earth people. I'm a young earth man. I think it was about a 5,000 years spread from in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, roughly 5,000 years later. You're where we are in chapter 2 here of the Book of Acts. Now we're 2,000 years since that. So the total is about 7,000 years, in my humble opinion, I could be wrong. But when the day of Pentecost came, they all came together, the apostles,

suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole. old house where they ever said and look at this we're going back to genesis 11 they saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them the apostles all of them were filled with the holy spirit and look what happened they began to speak in other tongues as the spirit enable them we're back to babel you say all those languages that god sent him he said said, I sent them out from here. So that's why you say these tribes that ended up in this place and that place, God put them there.

You say, how many languages were involved? Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of different dialects. Now they're all coming back together in Acts chapter two. All these languages. Well, watch what it says. They were staying in Jerusalem, God-fearing Jews, from every nation under heaven. That means what God did at Babel. You're fixing to see it up close and personal.

When they heard this sound, all those different tongues, a crowd came together and bewilderment. I wonder why. Because each one heard them, the apostles, speaking in his own language. Well, how in the world could you, you had all these dialects. They're scattered everywhere. There's no cohesiveness to any of it.

until Jesus showed up. When Jesus showed up, he said, to make sure that they all hear about me worldwide. What better place to start than at a place where Jews have gathered the ones who murdered him and the Jews have gathered together from every nation under earth and they hear their dialect and they're saying,

how do they know our language? They're not from where we're from. They've never studied our language. How could they be speaking their language if we understand what they're saying? Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? Acts chapter 2, verse 7. Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language? It was not something they couldn't understand.

They could understand. They were from Parthians, Medes, Elamites, Res, Mesopotam, Judea, Capadda. The world was a smaller place, but he lists all these places on the different dialects. some people when they came to Jesus by faith some people of those of those first converts were given the gift all i first corinthians the corinthians when the apostles went through there they gave them that gift to be able to speak in other languages to get the gospel preached and to get it preached in a hurry and we know that the gospel was preached in a hurry because when they started, Al, when they started down the road from Acts chapter, the kingdom has come,

and we're able to speak to anybody worldwide in their tongue, if necessary, we're going to get this gospel preached. So Paul told the Colossian, this is the gospel you heard. They were from Colossi and that has been proclaimed, listen, Al, to every creature under heaven, every dialect, heard the gospel initially from the Apostle Paul and the other apostles. And now they're at Corinth and they're jumping on each other and accusing each other and they're not loving each other and they're all jumping up speaking in all these languages

and a lot of times there was not even anybody there who spoke the language they were speaking. They just were doing it because it could. and it caused a lot of friction at Corinth, and in my humble opinion, that information from Genesis 11 to Acts chapter 2, we're speaking of languages and the devices of God on how to get it spread across the complete earth. And he pulled the thing off with about, start with about 15 or 20 men, 300, 150 million, 120 million, 120. 120 people there in act, you say, boy, but that small group was powerful because they could go worldwide, not needing to study the people's languages and all that. They had the ability to speak to them all. Is that weird or what? Pretty powerful. Hang on. Let's take a break. Pretty powerful. What do you think, Jason? Yeah, I think it's good. I think when the, I think evidently,

there must have been some kind of feeling that they were getting by speaking in tongues. I mean, you got the sound of a blowing wind that was fire because in 1st Corinthians 14, they were, you know, he started off saying in verse 2,

for anyone he speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. So I don't, I'm not sure they were aware of what language they were saying. That's my part. They got the gift and it was so great. They were like, could not. And look, and they could just look up and start doing it.

And they loved it so much that they didn't care whether they had somebody to speak that language or not. They were just saying, boy, watch me. You got to remember this one language, this one language thing was causing trouble in Genesis 11. And God saw it. But when you get to Acts chapter 2, more trouble starts when everybody starts speaking in languages than never studied. It just up. Just to refine a little bit of your point in Acts, too. So you got the apostles.

They're all speaking in a different tongue that they didn't know or study. That's right. And these people who have all come in, remember, for Pentecost, from all over the world. These Jews. It is from every nation. They were Jews. They were there. They're hearing this.

They're hearing Peter and they're hearing John. And they're all here in my language. I'm hearing this guy speak, this guy. And they're just praising God. and speak in their language. But then he stops, they stop speaking in all these different languages. And Peter in one tongue, which they all understood, which was Aramaic, comes in and says, let me tell you about who Jesus is.

Now, they all had a common language, but they all had their own dialect as well. So the tongue itself, which goes to Jesus' point from 1st, 19th, was a sign that this was from God. What I'm about to say in one common language, is a sign from the Almighty. But then it goes... These people, they knew what Moses had said back there. Right. They knew about the tongues that... They knew about Messiah.

They had been looking for him. They knew about it. All of a sudden, they see it front and center, and they're like, whoa. That's why a couple podcasts ago I did the thing about signs. Do you want to make a big deal about the sign? You know, some people do it. They go find a sign that has their name on it or whatever and illegally remove it from the ground and they go put it on their wall.

Because a road was named there the same name or whatever. Or is it about the direction of which the sign is indicating where we're going? These people had missed the meaning. Because you've got to remember. That is correct. When he's going to get to 15,

we're just right here. And he reminds them of the gospel. They forgot the mission, the purpose. What God had intended for them to do, which is just as the same as he did at Acts 2, the Holy Spirit fell on these apostles, and they went off and shared Jesus with everybody on the earth. And God gave them the power to communicate with the entire world, whatever dialect. That didn't even slow the train down. He speeded the train up.

So even today... The greatest got some fired up about the gift. They went to jumping up and down and just in the middle of the country. There's not any anybody, foreigners in there. And they're all just speaking in foreign languages with all the people of Corinth sitting there that spoke Greek or whatever. They're all sitting there saying, what are they talking about? They just took the gifts and became infatuated with them and they went nuts over. And rightfully so. If you had any kind of miraculous power, that would be cool. Yep.

I mean, that's why the guy was trying to make money from it. But just think, if you just had one, I mean, you could go. go out there and say watch this so now we moved and in 22 years since jesus showed up and all this began well if you look around now you can go over there if you go to greece hey you have a greek bible if you go over there to you know you have italian bible you have you see what i'm saying yeah they've got the bible now down of where you can get it in any language well and i was also thinking when you were describing that earlier, you know,

now with this, you know, war that's going on, Ukraine, all these things, every time you watch somebody on television, they're speaking

another language, but some interpreter is telling you what they're saying. That is correct. I mean, I've never just sat there and watch TV

unless I've been in another country, and I thought, I don't have no idea what they're saying. I mean, there's always somebody interpreted it into my language

so I can know what they're saying. We have this. Well, I did watch a Duck Dynasty episodes in Spanish one time in Mexico. I watched the whole thing. Yep.

It was probably funnier, wasn't it, in another land? I laughed the whole time. I had no idea what they were saying because the voices were different. But I was going to make a point about First Kenneth 14 to go back to your point about the atheistic views of is there a God and the pretty good evidence that you brought about. So when he says in 22, tongues then are a sign not for believers because they were saying, look at what I can do. and he's trying to get them to pursue faith, hope, and love, and the greatest love, because he wants their love, or God's love through them to reach people for Jesus.

Tom's worth for them. For the ones who... Yeah, but it's for unbelievers, but I just want to read this. Prophecy, because what are you going to prophesy about? I mean, at some point, Jesus is going to fulfill all prophecy. where is that in Matthew or is it Luke 24 where it said when it says Jesus is the fulfillment he came to fulfill all the prophecy so if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in will they not say that

you're out of your mind but if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody's prophesying he will be convinced Paul that he is a sinner yeah so now we're getting into the prelude to what he's fixed to talk about in Jesus. He's saying, the message. You hear about Jesus. All of a sudden, you're convicted as a sinner because eventually Jesus is getting on a cross for your sins.

And we'll be judged by all. And then this next verse is where I was trying to get to. And the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. Now, you're talking about evidence that there's a God. that statement. So he will fall down so he will fall down

and worship God exclaiming God is really among you. That's why I mentioned the agnostic and the atheists because if I were an atheist I guess I was before I came to Jesus

if I had someone had shown me this it would have helped my faith to say I believe God's with y'all I mean on these languages deal I mean to me for an atheist to look at this and say yeah but if he looks at it logically

well my point is he would have to at least say you know if you're pursuing faith hope and love and you're sharing Jesus his grace his mercy his death his burial his resurrection and you're having that relationship in the church

by those facts, you want people to look around and say, I really think God is among these people. If you're just pursuing signs and what God can do for you, what are they going to think? These people are crazy. That's what he's saying here. This is weird. That's right.

So I've been in church, y'all have been in church. Very few, but I've been in church. I'm like, some weird. This is weird. It just didn't feel like it had a singular purpose, you know, what it was trying to accomplish. Let's take another break, Dave. No, and Dad, to your point a minute ago, all the things you were describing earlier talking about sort of what I would call the razor's edge of our existence and all of the things you described. Yep.

I remember sitting in classes in college being taught by people who had said they believe in the theory of evolution. Now, they didn't say whether they were atheist or agnostic, but I remember. assume they were because they believe in theory of evolution. But when they were going into what you went into on steroids, they were even more amazing, incredible facts of the fragility of life on the planet. And they were saying that in a marvel, like, can you believe how lucky we are? It was kind of the projection. So I'm sitting there listening the whole time and I'm thinking everything they're saying

is strengthening my faith in a powerful, powerful way because the more things that they're talking about how fragile everything is, the more it leaves me to believe it had to have somebody that held it together. And they would say, just look at the way this thing work. Is it a, is it an amazing thing? It's hard to believe on how we even.

That's what I'm saying. They were almost incredulous about how amazing it was. I'm thinking, yeah, if you just would say there's somebody that, you know, created it. They don't realize even, you know, we're thinking about doing a show where we go and hunt. because I'm a treasure hunter, you know, and we're thinking about hunting for space rocks,

you know, meter right. So I've been researching these things, and I'm amazed at in the writing, that even people who don't believe in God, they'll say, once these were caused to move, and I'm like, well, who caused them to move? Because they're not, they're just, once they were caused to move,

like, and they have no explanation on why these things are moving in space and moving quite rapidly, just like the earth. Yeah. And then when you look at the inside of them, there's no doubt they have a design. And it's spectacular. That's why they're worth a lot of money.

So I'm like, so you have rocks that are moving throughout the galaxy and you have no reason why they're moving. because if there's no God, there's no one causing this to move. They just happen to be moving. And then when you actually look at them in detail, they have an artistic design that no artist designed

because he's not there. And this is just one little thing in our galaxy is some rocks floating around, moving at high rates of speed. I mean, it just doesn't make sense if there's nobody behind it. Right. Some of those rocks, y'all are finding, especially the big ones. Not that we're finding to say that we may find.

You may find. If you think about it, Al, you come up on a rock, it's down up under the ground, you dig it up, and they say, this is some kind of meteorite. When that thing hit up there in Kansas, when that thing hit. when that thing hit the ground, that jarred things. Yeah, or Arizona all over the planet. What are you talking about? In fact, they make movies about it now. You got some fire coming out of there.

What? When that thing hit, if you'd have been standing around there, even remotely close to it, you're dead. But fortunately, for luckily, in quotation marks, we have a force field that catches them on fire and makes them tiny. Yep. By the time they get to the air.

For the most part, they dissipate. We're always worried about that big event, you know. Well, right. But even if you were standing on it when it hit you, you literally would be vaporized. Oh, yeah. Because it's traveling at thousands of miles an hour. Right. And by the way, just.

Wait, Sam. Oh, how lucky we are. Do razors edge. And so, of course, for full disclosure, that's a young Earth guy. I'm an old earth guy. And just to show you, because there's been some. debate on that. It's like, well, you have to go one way or the other. We don't. We have a... Well, I'm somewhere in between. Right. I think he made it old.

Which is another view. That's exactly right. Isn't that funny? We're all three members of the same family. We all have three different views. But even having... But you made a good point. That was part of my thinking, why I say, I think it's young. Even if all three of us... But he made it old. I think he made it ready for human humans to inhabit. So in the grand scheme. And just to explain it, the difference dad was describing is actual 24-hour days during the creation days in Genesis 1,

old earth guys like me believe those were periods of time. In other words, to God, a day is 1,000 years, 1,000 years a day. So it wouldn't mean anything for him to put it in that context. But it doesn't matter because they could be right. That could be spot on. And I have no issue with that because God can do whatever he wants to. So he decided to do it in 25. doesn't matter. There's some of these hardheads

think. Well, you get into this thing like, right, you can't, you know, we can't accept that sometimes we view things a little bit differently, but it's okay. I mean, that's the whole point of the book of Corinthians has been about unity. You can have different. Well, the biggest problem I have with being, having it old and then

apply, like billions of years, you know, what people say, which I'm thinking he made it where it was old, so you'd have, you know, could use the resources for humans. That's what I was thinking. But the problem I have with that is all of a sudden, when you tie in that we came from animals and this process and what you're looking around

and none of that's happening again. No. It was a one-time phenomenon. They're like, well, we're constantly, this is just the current state, but it seemed like you would keep seeing the little bird grow up to the monkey. How long did it take to the human? To get. To get. To get that much neck on a critter call a giraffe, where did he evolve from? What was the thing behind him? And because, boy, whatever, then some of them said, well, you know, they couldn't reach the fruit. They had a short neck. Oh, yeah. And evolution just kind of, their neck kept getting longer. But all I asked was a simple question. Where did a giraffe get that long neck? I mean, what came before the giraffe, and my neck saw a lot longer than that was neck.

Right. I just, I think a giraffe came here with a long neck. If you're an old earth guy, you're not an evolutionist, by the way, just to clarify that. Because why did it stop? Why did all of it stop? Yeah. I'm not seeing it. He hadn't given enough time.

I don't know. That's what they said. You need another billion years, and your question will be answered. That's what they say. Yeah, but if you really meditate on that, that's the dumbest logic ever. You're literally asking me to believe something that takes way more faith than there was a God that made it. That's right.

And that we all agree. Let's take another break. Well, I wanted to say something because I think it fits in. That last statement in verse 25 that I read, when he said God is really among you, If you just look at the first three words, God is, God is real. That's what we're trying to pronounce to the world. In our assemblies, in our daily lives, at our jobs, we're trying to pronounce that God is real.

And so I think in this context at this church, he had already, I mean, just throwing them under the bus and brought up every problem they ever had. But then he brings up this love and a lot of people in the world, they don't like First Corinthians 13 because they're like, well, that's the most passive thing because they're talking about all this love.

So it's all of a sudden, like I'm just a doorpost and just letting people walk all over me. You know, we find First Corinthians 13 awesome, but a lot of people in the world who don't believe in God, They're like kind, patient. These are like weak viewed things that should be ran over. And so my point is, though, what they're missing is he said that in the most confrontational letter to a church in the history of the world. So it doesn't mean that we're not confrontational.

You just think, well, we love our kids. And so what do we do when they mess up? We confront them sternly. I mean, I've had more come to Jesus meetings with my kids than anybody else on the planet. Throughout their upbringing. And so that's what I wanted to say. Why are we doing that? Because we believe God is real.

If I didn't believe God was real, why would I care what my kids doing on Saturday night? What would I care? I mean, it wouldn't matter. But since I believe he's real, and when we see character, that is not lining up with who God is, or even in this thing, if our house was not portraying that God is real, or our church group that we're meeting with,

when it was, if it's portraying anything that doesn't show that God is real, he's real and he's really among us, well, we need to make some changes. Yep. So that's just the point I want, I think we get so bogged down in, Well, now what was the signs for and what does this prophecy mean? And, you know, can I speak in tongues now?

And I think if you missed the bigger point was they were not showing the world that God was really among them. And by that, God didn't seem real. Y'all both talked to people that couldn't understand English, but you had an interpreter there. And you made it happen. Yeah. Right? Correct. I've had multiple interpreters because there were more than one language prayers in a room.

So I had to go, the next guy had to go. It would have been handy just to have you got it. Hey, it's hard to speak. It's embarrassing. When I was in the Ukraine that I talked about a few podcasts ago, I tried. Just like, come on, Lord, give it to me. Because it was. I prayed for it too.

It would really have been useful. And I wouldn't have been shocked if he'd have said, here you go. I mean, who was going to know about it? Right. I didn't hear nobody. I wasn't going to say anything about it. I bet you would have said something. No.

This way you tell story, James, you weren't sitting on that one if you'd have had to be it, if he'd have given you that. I'm saying I'd prepared in my mind in that moment if he would help me out and do this. I just,

I was going to keep it to myself. His question, what you would have been, it's sufficient. They have their interpreter, you're reading along, and your Bible's in English, and he is in whatever the, Ukraine speak.

Well, it was more about discipleship because the couple, I had a couple, that husband-wife, that young, that they were just, they became mentors, I guess, because, I mean, in a discipleship, every word I spoke, they interpreted. We literally were just attached, attached. I was the third wheel of them. They're married. Because every time I said something, they had to interpret it. So can you imagine?

I mean, they were ready. Because all I did was share Jesus the whole time I was over there. They're just over and over and over and over and over and over. And we teach class. And that's all God wants you to do. It's hard for an interpreter because I remember when I was in Dominican, we've been going hard. I mean, we're all day. And like Jason, so Ben Atkins, you know, my cousin-in-law, he speaks fluent Spanish.

he's really good. So he was interpreted. But he's not Hispanic. So, I mean, he had to learn it. And he's interpreting it, which is different, by the way, than someone, you know, if someone who was Hispanic had learned English, it's a little different for them. They were more free flowing in the other language. So Ben's been working all day. So we got out here for the big night street deal. You know, we got the loudspeakers of. We got the, you know, several hundred people are there. I'm going into my thing, you know, but I'm getting to speak in my language. And I'm thinking in my mind. So Ben gets about halfway through with me.

And I look over at him, he just shut down on me. He just locked up, vapor locked. And I look over and I was like, Ben, you're all right? And he was just, I need a minute. And I was like, and I felt so bad. The strain was more than he It was. So then he kind of, you know, took a minute. And then I thought, well, I better wrap this up, you know, because I've lost

Ben. And so I wrapped it up, you know, with the gospel. And then afterwards, he was upset you know he was like i'm so sorry i fast all my kids know foreign languages and then i have carina who we you know acquired well she she's from nicaragua i mean so when i go you know to a restaurant and i need some somebody speaking spanish i mean it's awesome i'm like this is what i mean because you can even make amendments to your order that's right but me trying to do instead of just hoping whatever you told them comes out right

No sour cream. You know, they... And why is it, if you say it louder and slower, do you think they're going to get it? I'm horrible. I'm like drawing a picture with my fingers saying it slowly, and they're just like, no able English, which is about the only phrase I know. I wanted to zero it on this. The secrets of his heart will be laid bare.

I wanted to... All right, well, hold that. We'll save that for the overtime so we can get into that. And also get into, we'll look back at just a little bit at 13 and 12 and 11 to set us up for the whole thing in 14. We get there in the next podcast. It's a very controversial text, but it really doesn't have to be because it just goes in line with what we've been talking about the entire time. BlazTV.com slash Unashamed if you want to sign up to be able to get the overtime segment. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.

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