Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 45 | How Phil Wants to be Buried Someday, Origin of Zombie Movies, and No Death in Christ

Episode Date: January 15, 2020

The Robertsons talk about how Phil wants to be buried, Jase explains how the origin of zombie movies can be traced back to Lazarus, and the guys discuss how there is no death in Christ. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Unachanged What about you? My expectations were so low Because, you know, we've been duck hunting It's not been a good year But it's better than last year It's better than last year

Because last year was the high water We're sitting about a hundred over what we killed last year We still got two weeks I told you to throw that notebook away Something The truth is the truth of Yeah. I mean, I'm like, once you realize this is going to be a bottom five years. Quick counting. Quick counting. Just a measure to measure. But he's been counting for 30 years. You got 30 years worth of calendar.

And you want to see if it goes in cycles, it picks back up. You say, why could we get something over here? Which we should show that on this podcast. People wouldn't believe, like, it's a stack of calendars that go back 30 years ago. Of course, some of them are funny because they're like moms, a little, you know, pink calendar, whatever he could find. He documents every day what was killed, the weather. A lot of times who was hunting. Temperature. Who was hunting? Where they was shot.

It's pretty amazing. Well, they have been useful. Maybe we can make a book of that. Now, so look, we took a couple of Marines, which is, I think they're the plan B for all action. If there's any problems. It's the kind of guys you want in control. You call the Marines.

And we didn't have very good hunts. Although, to them, I don't know what we shot. We killed about 20 ducks in two days. Two days, but they thought it was the greatest ever because they hunt in Virginia. Right. So if you hunt in Virginia and you come over here and shoot 20 ducks, they think it's awesome. I thought what was interesting, though, Jay shot a 10-point buck,

and one of the Marines, because he couldn't find him, he tracked him like a bloodhound, which made me realize, you don't, you know, if a Marine is looking for you. If he wings you and you got away, but it ain't over yet. You're in trouble. I'm a tracker. If you're bleeding, the Marine's going to find. He found that deer submerged in water. It wasn't anything sticking up, but his brow tines.

Yep. And I mean, he sniffed him out. Wow. And then what's more impressive is, look, when Jay loads the thing up, huge deer. I mean, 10-point thing weighs 275 pounds. He sat there and watched Jay cleaning him for about 10 minutes. minutes and finally he said step up step aside yeah the marion tells jay get out of the way and he got his knife out and jay said what i saw is very hard to describe because he took that

knife and it was like a part of his hand and he basically cleaned the deer in less than 10 minutes jay was a bad and a half a were you in front of all yeah wow he's just a carcass hanging there and all the meat was piled up right here. He said, okay. I said, were you impressed? And Jay said, I was in the military, but I was more scared at that moment than I've ever been. What if this guy is a flashback or something, right? I mean, the guy was a big guy already, and I thought, well, you know what's funny is Jay? So this is, I, I didn't hear that part of the caper, but I knew that Jay couldn't find the deer because we were texting. He was supposed to cook at the house or something. So he said,

I'm going to get Bobo. So we came and got Bobo was his plan. That was his plan, A, but now I understand Bobo. It was a competition. You had Bobo now has pneumonia. He's not, now Bobo has pneumonia. Well, because we just had a big rain. Everything's flooded.

That's what I did. The Bobo ran with the Marines for about an hour. He's got pneumonia. So I said, boys, y'all, you're all, wasn't it? Well, I thought it was. Bobo had a bad cough this morning. I said, well, where is it? She said, well, Dan took him to the doctor.

And then she said, oh, he's got pneumonia. I said, oh, no. So it was a competition tracking. You got Bobo, who is rat terrier and a mighty fine track. He was not used to waste deep water. Well, right. That's what got him. And then you had a Marine.

Well, guess what? The Marine won, which if you needed any other reason to be proud of our military. A good dog is good, but a Marine. Well, even Jay, National Guard, now that he's got himself in good shape. I mean, compared to, you know, there's some retrieves he couldn't make, maybe that Blue would make, but he's a pretty good retriever now too. And, you know, walks around the property. I found that men under, you know, 50, under 50,

they're actually better dogs and mine better. You can say, hey, he fell over it further to the left. He'll move him. You know his dad. My dog, I'm trying to get him to say, back over. I'm blowing the whistle at him. But a human being, you say, hey, he's till you left, son. Well, don't have to turn over it right then.

And the human has a gun. And he's got a gun which a dog can't carry. Well, that's right, because, you know, they don't have enough, well, they don't have any arms. So there's a lot of, I think young men, you need to train them to be retrained. But have you noticed the older we get, that your age limit is rising because you used to say under 40, under 30, now it's under 50 because everybody in the blind. I looked at my children are in their 50s, crowd and going towards 60, and I'm like, man. Oh, we had a long talk today about, look, here's, so here's, we had actually a good hunt. Our expectations were low, but we shot on them, 12, 15 ducks.

And at 10 o'clock, Jay went to go get the rig so we could, you know, load out. And we had a cameraman from Duck Commander. He comes there once in a while just for social media and see, you know, to let everybody know what we're up to in the duck hunting world. And so he said, which where do folks find that? Is that on Duck Commander's website? Just because somebody will ask now, do you even know where they show that? You know, Al?

I don't know. I'm sure. Probably duck commander.com. If you go to duck commander. com and follow the list of Twitter and Facebook and all that, they got it. So today's hunt will probably be posted somewhere. And so what little footage he can get? Because I noticed that since he's, you know, Duck Commander sending him down here.

But every time he turns around, we're like, don't move. You know, quit moving. Get out. Get out. Look, this guy, he's real white. And, I mean, it's like he hasn't. seen the sun in weeks. He's a camera.

What camera and sound people aren't weird? That's true. Most people who stay a lot on computers, most white boys, they end up bright white. Well, he is. There's no sun and there's little cubicles. You can't get any sun rays down in there where they camp out. And it's just week after week. And you're right.

They have to have a dark environment. I went by our office. You're glowing. I went by the hour office the other day where our guys were working on this. and they got all the, it's the storefront there in West Winnow. They got all the drapes, it looks like it's an abandoned warehouse. That's what I'm talking about. And they're like deep in the enclave working on it.

It's just nothing but a bright light on. Look, so I go out, we knocked down two galwals because Sai was standing up, the invisible man. And they were coming straight in. And Cy just raised up and shot. He thought they were wood ducks, which is my point about the generation is getting older. on the downhill sale first sale. So, of course, then everybody grabbed their gun, bum, blah, bum, bum. But Jason is saying, if you mistake a Woody for our gadwall, you're just about over the hill.

Yeah, where you are. You're going. And so, and then he missed. He's shooting a little pop gun. And so if he times it where he shoots with everybody else, then he claims the ducks. Here we go. He's a much better side. Jason, him, he's on the far end.

He's 20 to 25 feet away from me. I'm on one end and he's on the other end. A couple of Woody's came in, the one with the band. But he's whispering, there are the cameraman. He said, look right there. But they're talking in low tones. Well, you know, after 73 years of standing shoulder to shoulder with people with shotguns, you're hearing.

You're going to lose some hearing. There's no doubt about it. So therefore, I didn't get the word on the Woody's coming in. They all boom, boom, boom, boom. Why don't y'all shoot that other? and I said, I never got the word or what was... That was the story I was getting to is right when Jay went to get the rig, two wood ducks came in and I had, I mean, he said right there, right there,

the cameraman did. I looked up and they're literally coming into the decoys. Well, one of them lit. So I went out on that and the other one went to the left and I thought I'll wait till they shoot the one flying. Because you got the one on the water. I got the one on the water. Well, they never shot because of what...

just Phil just said he never heard right there here they are I mean he's over thinking I'm down in the brush I mean which where I should be that's why they lit there if I'd have been standing up out on the shooting force you know you know rubber neckin they call it rubbernecking you know they're looking like that all day long where they don't get his eyes of sleep it's in the sitting position which is weird and so I wait I wait I wait well then the duck gets up the one that lit well that's the rule on duck hunting. You let the duck sit there,

but once it gets up, that's it. I don't care if there's a hundred coming. That one's leaving, so I shot it, which I'm glad I did. Because then the other retriever we got, Burley, because Jay was out there. We didn't bring a dog this morning. Burley held it up out there and it was, we're fast, we're fast reaching the stage to where Si and myself,

not so much me as it is, Sy, he'll just sleep in an upright position, but people are now shaking him if they see ducks coming to see if he's dead or alive. So they gouge him a little bit and when he said, what are you doing? Well, he's still alive. We got some ducks coming. One of these days, keep it up, Al. You're going to shake him.

Well, he cashed him on that last bunch. The question with our group will be, would we end the hunt then? Are we just saying, well, you know what? We're just going to finish. My only laugh. Well, dad say we'll get him to 11, you know. Only laugh about that. because in the book of John and throughout the Bible,

there's a guaranteed resurrection from the dead. If you run up on Jesus Christ. And you think about it, you say, so old age, y'all are not singing the blues. Oh, I'm trying to keep the wrinkles off my neck and yeah, yeah, yeah. Trying to look, no. No. Just go with it.

The plastic surgery, I don't know what the industry is doing, but you can spot these people that. It looks like somebody just started. their foot, you know, on their neck and just... Oh, I know it. It's like a rubber band. A piece of visqueen over it, you know. I'm like, you know what?

Does it really matter? Just, you know, age gracefully. The resurrection trumps every bit of that. Yeah, because it's not going to work. Which is pretty cool. You made a good line one time. You told me about people who try to look young when they get older and you're like, you know, at some point, everything goes south.

Yep. And there's nothing you can do about it. It literally goes south. The human anatomy is headed south. That's right. Can't stop time. And why would you want to? I mean, we're here for, but that's the difference in faith.

We're here for a season. You know, this doesn't last long. How fast is 73 years go by that? Y'all, it seemed like I got here yesterday. You know, we don't want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep or to grieve like the rest of men who have no hope. Then he says, we believe Jesus died and rose again. Well, it's the centerpiece of you look at things like the aging process. You say, what else is new?

We're here for a short period of time. James, brother Jesus said it's like a vapor. We just appear and disappear. We have one shot at immortality here. If someone has a better story, I don't care who he is. If you're an atheist or whoever, do you have a better story than that? So far, I've found it. none that had a better story, a story that could beat it.

Nope. So I'm going with it. And it's like you said in a practical way. We've been talking to some on the podcast about, you know, we buried two of your siblings within the last, you know, three or four months. Yep. Because both just happened at the same time, you know, as dementia got them. But I would say both in both settings, you know, we were, we were celebratory about their lives.

And, you know, obviously you hated that the last few, you know, they weren't in sales but the same time that's if you didn't have hope of heaven that'd be tough oh we're in we're in john one and there's a statement that john the baptist made in the first chapter that i'm sure we'll dig deeper into as this goes on but you know that right after john recorded that you know through jesus or the word which became flesh speaking of jesus all things were made you know in verse three without him nothing was made that has been made in him was life the light shines in the dark but the darkness has not understood it. And then it introduces John the Baptist,

who prepared the way for Jesus. He said there came a man who was sent from God. His name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light. But he made a statement later on in verse 15, which goes in with what we're talking about. You talk about aging and time. But he made this profound statement.

I've mentioned this before on previous podcast, but it's quite the statement that you can make about someone, a human being that was on the earth. In verse 15, John testifies concerning him, speaking of Jesus. He cries out saying, this was he of whom I said, he who comes after me, because Jesus was to come, he was preparing the way for Jesus. So he says, he who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.

Before you say anything else, have you ever heard of another being and another person that that could be said about? Think about it. No. It doesn't even make sense. I'd love to know people of the world because it's not a verse I read when I'm introducing Jesus to someone. You know, we all share Jesus with a lot of people. But I think I'm going to use that for future reference.

Yeah. Because I'm going to say, what kind of statement is that? John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus Christ. and he said the reason he's awesome, you know, I'm using that word, but he was saying that this person I'm testifying about is he came, the one who's coming after me has surpassed me because he was before me. Yeah, yeah. What?

Yeah, yeah. This guy gets up one day, but oh, the Bible's a myth and a fairy tale. How'd this dude dream that out? I mean, think about it. You're going to write down a few things here, and this is one of them. What's amazing about it, when we get to the back of John, you know, we have doubting Thomas. He said, I'm not going to believe in the resurrection of the day until I can touch him and see. I mean, he was saying, well, I don't know about this.

Resurrection of the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When it finally takes place, the disciples were in the house again. Thomas was with him and he had already said, I won't believe in unless I see the nail marks, you know, in his hands and his feet. though the doors were locked Jesus came and stood among them and said peace be with you then he said to Thomas put your finger here see my hands reach out your hand and put it into my side so he said stop he said put it in his side what what this is a this is a going over and Jesus is talking to one of his disciples who has doubted he could pull this off Thomas said to him my lord and my God he was so

crushed by, he said, good night, he's just beaten death. And I love this one. Jesus told him, because you've seen me, Thomas, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed. Well, there's where we are. You say, I've never seen Jesus post-resurrection. You say, well, why in the world do you follow him

and put all your marbles in one bag? He is. Why are you doing that? I believe it because there's no, other thing that offers me hope. There's nothing. It's that believable. Nothing.

You say, man, he'll get you out of here alive. I'm like, get you out of here, what, alive? Well, I'm 73 and it feels like I just got here. You're like winding down, running out of time. Those who haven't seen, they search. You know, you have to search this out. If I pass, y'all make sure you do a podcast the next day. And you say, okay, you know, we're going up there, you know,

somebody going to say a few words of old dad there but but if you don't be squalling and carry it on and you know saying oh no that we lost uh we lost their dad we lost no he didn't lose him yeah well he passed away no he didn't he's not gone anywhere he's you know he passed all right but he just passed on to the other side he has departed as peter would say and if you look at it we'll do a podcast the first request that i denied it was about 20 years ago Phil said hey now I want you you know he's out there fishing in the river. I don't know if you remember this. But you said, I doubt it. You said, now look, if something happens to me and I die, here's what I want you to do. I don't care what your mom says or anybody else. You go make a box, a pine box.

If you spend over $50, that's too much. And he said, just put me in it and just push me out the river. Like a biking funeral? Yeah. I don't remember saying that, but why? What a way to go. Yeah. He said, because these people, you know, going through these funerals, paying thousands of dollars. I mean, that's just stupid. I'm coming out of the ground anyway. So look, I thought for a while, all right, that's what I'll do.

He asked me to do it. And you've already forgotten this request, but that's fine. But then I realized that you know what? That's against the law. I've been saying, we got one problem with that. Yeah. Yeah. But what are they going to do?

Well, they'll find you. Probably. But you in jail? Maybe. Maybe. What? I put my dad in the bottom. and push the mountain river.

That's what he said, do. Now, we could take it in Texas. You can do it that way. You can bury people on your property and all that. But Louisiana, unfortunately for Louisianaans, the lobby for the funeral homes has made all the laws. If we went with my tie barrel, it would be, it's a possibility there would be somewhat of a stir downstream.

You know, when the box came up and, you know, Lodge in somebody's peer, are they out there trying to take it a sun tan? What's that? I don't know. Let's open it up. Whoa. Well, I think it just continues this racket that, look, I mean, I know people got to make a living. But to me, I mean, nowadays, it takes like $10,000 to bury somebody.

That's, yeah, you're right. It's a box. Our Uncle Tommy was the first one of our family. And by the way, some people have asked about this on the podcast. they've sent this in his question so it's a good time to talk about it he was cremated and as far as i know he was the first robertson to be cremated but i get this question a lot and there's some that have even said look i'm you know i'm getting older this is what i'm considering somewhere along the line somebody must have taught or had a doctrine or something that you shouldn't be cremated

because i'm getting a lot of people ask about it and so we should talk about that i mean as far as I know from anything in the scriptures, you know, it doesn't matter. I think the Stoics and the Epicureans there in Acts 16 and 17, they had all these crazy ideas about what you do to the dead. That's why when Paul came up and started talking about the resurrection, you know, in Acts 17, well, that sent that whole bunch. Because it says they gather around and talked about the latest ideas. The worded Jews was they sneered.

whatever a sneer yeah i don't know whoa whoa well because they had new zealers they had all that's why you have to say the words like in the western you know somebody should say a word and you know and you have the indians and the burial grounds and you couldn't walk through it because the spirits you know had to have their time you know of rest before sure i was standing in new zealand and i thought i'm fixing to introduce the gospel here i don't know whether they've heard it or not over in New Zealand, but I said, worth a try. We had duck hunted from one end of New Zealand, two islands, the big one and the little one.

We went from one end of the other, duck hunting. So I was going on that teaching. 50 ducks a day, right? 50 apiece. So the limit was very liberal. So I was blowing my duck calls and showing them. Then all of a sudden, I just shifted gears, and I began to speak about Jesus, and especially when I got to the resurrection.

The only thing I had ever heard before, what I heard, heard then. As soon as I talked, talking about the resurrection of the dead, the death of Jesus on the cross, his resurrection. The sound was like, you know, I remember Tony Blair and the House of Commons in England when they didn't like what Blair was saying. No, no, it wasn't that. It was like but when I'm speaking of the resurrection, I'm getting this feedback and that's where it sounded. And so I turned to this guy and I said, what's that racket they're making? He said, they don't want you to talk about that. And I said, well, I'm going to tell them anyway.

I said, they need this. They said, they've never heard anyone in a public setting speak about those matters. In New Zealand, Christianity is a very, it's a very private thing. But they've never heard someone, Mr. Robertson, speak out like that. You're scaring them. And they're letting you know, it was like a roar. Yeah. So, now listen to this.

So you didn't talk about it anymore, did you? So I said, boy, I just got louder. Well, I get down there after it's over and they had a table with duck calls and we're making a little money there, sell at our duck calls. They would come up to me from that audience. It was a big audience, and I did it multiple times. I think what was ironic, I think one of the places I spoke Christchurch, New Zealand, I said, well, somebody has been through here at some point for that. That's the name of the town.

Name of the town. But anyway, we had our table set up and people, the New Zealanders, would come to me, they would look to their right and left, and they're looking like this to make sure nobody heard them. And they would whisper, we appreciate what you said. We appreciate it. Keep doing that. But they were looking around like, I don't want anybody to hear me.

He said it. So I got back home. I don't have a computer, but the people are in and around me, they do have computers. And a lot of them spoke freely via the Internet saying, we really appreciate Mr. Robbins to come over here, and we just never heard anybody be that bold about talking about Jesus in the open. So even though I got the blowbag, all that, there were plenty of them there who said you see what I'm saying oh yeah so you just can't

let stuff like that you know back you off or back you down don't you think that's just stand on the gospel don't you think that's just a ploy of the evil one this whole private private religion anyway is just to keep people from talking I mean that's what yeah I mean I mean offer your body as a living sacrifice Romans 12 one and two there holy and pleasing to God you say everywhere you are, you are a proclamer. You're standing on the gospel of Jesus. So it doesn't make a difference where you are, church, building, all that. We are the building.

See what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, they're just trying to get you to shut up. I always think about that story. But Stephen was it, Acts 7, where they literally put their hands over their ears. And they went, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Screaming and holler. They were not.

going to listen. You know, and they eventually killed him. They did for declaring Jesus. I mean, I think if you decide that you're going to go public with Jesus, which we all have, I mean, the name of this podcast is unashamed, but I believe everyone who understands Jesus enough to obey him and surrender to him is then qualified to declare Jesus. That's correct. Once you understand Jesus, that qualifies.

as you to then share it because a lot of people in religion they try to get people to say well some people are more talented at that and others and look I'm not saying we don't have different talents and we have different gifts but if you can understand it you can then share it right but part of the problem is being that people haven't been people have hurt our ability to do what we're doing here because they major and minors and they yell and scream and only talk about that you know what I'm saying they've given us a bad name. That's why I focused on Jesus. I mean, introduce.

I mean, I wish even in the churches, I wish we adopted what the African-American culture does in their churches. And Al probably knows of this. You know, in our church, when somebody says something, they agree with, they'll say amen or if they're really fired up, you know, hallelujah. We got one fella that back there. He just screams as loud as he can.

Jesus. He got going yesterday. I got him going. I thought Kurt's here. I'll preach yesterday for the first time in a while. I mean, I like your thinking because where I'm speaking and where I reside on Sunday morning a little short time when the brothers meet, about 60% this congregation is in fact black. So they're doing what you're saying, but I love it.

But let me share something with it. I don't know if you know that this happened. We say that. But because I was at an African-American church and there was. There was a guy, we were actually at a funeral. And so they had many preachers. Well, I would hear amen and hallelujah and tell it, brother, and you're right. And that's it.

But I kept hearing a couple of voices. They'd say, well, well. And so I leaned over because I was, you know, one of my best men in my wedding was African-American romance. Yeah. Just like a brother to me. I leaned over because it was his wife's, I think, grandfather. or something that had passed away. So it wasn't on preach on brother.

This was well. He said, well, and I leaned over and I said, what does the well mean? And he said, that means he got an issue with it. And I said, what do you mean? He's like, he's saying if you would give him a chance, he would tell you where you're wrong. So he's saying, well, that means I have an idea that it's in contrast with what you're saying. And I thought, I love that. As long as preach on brother, you had more of those than wales, you were thinking, well.

But see, I never knew that because I've done some funerals, some African-American funerals before. I thought they were just saying, well, that means, well, I have, there's a different view of that that you are incorrect, sir. I didn't even know. Well, look, you know what it did? It changed my life forever because now every time I've ever heard a preacher, at some point in that lesson, usually, there's a point where I just want to scream, well, you should start doing it. I would love to start the tradition. That's why I'm announcing this today. I would love to have that going in our churches because we're so sensitive.

Since I'm going to be preaching more, if I ever say, well, I wasn't, now, Jay's disagrees. If you'll make a deal with me. Here's where he's wrong. Very seldom do we brag on each other's brothers and family, but Al did an outstanding I mean, I'll give credit to the Holy Spirit of God. I know you were prepared. Someone was trying to tell me the opening line I'll had it with the GICO commercial. How did that work? I'll tell the history.

So I've got to tell what happened. So we have a young guy. I've been gone almost seven years now out of preaching because when the show hit, you know, I came back to work for Duck Commander and to be on the show. And then everything got big for all of us. So we go and speak around the country. Yeah, we're not here. most Sundays.

Right. But we are now. I couldn't be here in one place until we started doing this and I kind of started being around more. But anyway, so our young guy announced he was leaving like a couple of weeks ago. And not anything bad. He just has a better opportunity. He's going to Colorado, a great guy.

And he's more of a counselor and a, what would you call him? A, like a marriage and family. He's a doctor. He's a doctor in marriage and family. But he's a great speaker. He's a great speaker. And I hired him. So I love him.

And so, but I knew with him leaving, you know, when a church loses their preacher and people, you know, people get kind of freaked out about that and scared, you know. What's the level right before? A shrink? He's not like a, he's not. Well, like a psychologist. I think he has shrink tenets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's not from here.

He's from Kansas. He seems like a shrink team. But anyway, so I knew like Sunday was the first Sunday post-Trent. And he's still here because he's getting his family together, getting ready to move. So I knew I was like, now this has to be, I'm going to have to bring it Sunday. Yeah, because he's a dynamic. He's very dynamic. So I thought, we can't have a big fall off.

And look, I've been listening to Trent for seven years when I'm in town. I love it. I mean, and I hired it. So I thought, all right, Al, if you're going to step back in, you've got to, you know, shuck the corn. There can't be any, you know. So I was in that mode of prayer and prep for the whole thing. But I thought about it thought, but, you know, you got to have a, I just, I'm a humorous

purse. I used a lot of humor. And Trent was not. So I thought, well, that's, you know, that's something I'm going to play on. So I thought a couple of weeks ago, this commercial, this Geico commercial, that almost everybody would be familiar with, I thought that would be the perfect opening for me stepping back in. Because you had preached. How many years did you preach? I preached for about a dozen years before the seven years ago. And I've been at the church for 30 in some capacity. But anyway, so I get up there yesterday is the first day. and so I step into the box, you know, and everybody's waiting, what's how I was going to say? And I was like, what was the opening line?

You said, guess who got reinstated? Guess who got reinstated? And so when I said it, it was a big roar and then a big round of applause. And then I was like, I don't think most people even knew that that was a joke. You just said, guess who got reinstated. Which was funny. It was funny. And then I said, well, not officially.

Well, then they were laughing because they thought, oh, he's doing the commercial. Then I was like, are you nervous? Me too. And you actually were nervous. Yeah, and I was nervous. And I was like, I would figure it out. So it was a big laugh and it led me into the thing. But it really was, it really was a lot of fun once I got going.

It was. But I'm doing John. Yeah, you preached on the title was Case for Jesus. And it's kind of our theme. So, I mean, it's good that you're going to be. Which, by the way, to the audience here, if you go to WFR Church. dot org we stream all our stuff on Sundays if you know if you're not have a church home but also you can watch it many time during the week so jace will be up some yeah i'll be up some i said i would

well let me circle back because i brought it in your houses yeah there you go watch us so i brought this up a minute ago i want to circle back because we didn't deal with it so because we got off on the resurrection so cremation whatever happens to your physical body on earth if you even if you go into the ground, you know, with formaldehyde and you, at some point you go back to dust. That's correct. Which is what the Almighty said. You go back to not taking up space anymore. Before you took up space to begin with.

Right. You're beginning. You didn't take up space. Well, all of a sudden, through your mother and your father, and all this is microscopic, here you come and there you are a little embryo that's been impregnated and you're like you are tiny tiny you're very small but it is you you're you're officially taking up space that's right you go as long as you go whenever physical death comes along you go back into the same zone that you were in before you started non-existent the only the great news out of all that is

your soul and your spirit, they're just alive without your body. Until the resurrection. Until the resurrection. So the point is it doesn't matter, whether you were, you know, vaporized by a nuclear bomb, whether you were cremated,

whether you just got putting a hole in the ground and over the course of however long that takes, in New Orleans, they put you in a, they have to bury above the ground. So I didn't realize this. Everybody gets... Below sea low?

Yeah. So everybody, gets cremated in New Orleans. What happens is they put you in that crib, and one year and one day later, they come in and sweep you out of the back. It gets so hot there during the summer, especially, that basically it cremates you in a year.

So basically, the Catholic Church, mostly, they rent these vaults that are above the ground. You rent them. So you're in there for a year. They sweep you out of the back. We're ready to put another guy in there. They sweep you under the ocean? No, right out of the back of the thing.

There's greenest grass anywhere. right there in the cemetery. Man. I mean, so what I'm saying is... That's better than my idea. My idea was, since it doesn't matter, I mean, I think the world says, well, matter cannot be created or destroyed.

Therefore, we need to put it in a box and put a ribbon on it. But they don't understand unless you're God. Whatever your existence was, if he made the first man from dust, well, it's not a big leap. If you can make a man from dust and a woman from a river, it's not a big leap if you're burned,

cremated, or hit with a missile or chopped up in a little pieces, God forbid. He is the power and the ability to resurrect that. He's not going to have any problem resurrecting us from whatever. And you're not degrading the body. No. Look, so let me get my redneck idea. Everybody's concerned about the environment. You know, we live right south of.

town is the world in my mind is the world's largest junkyard it's i'm not even unnamed the place because people you know they're the good people that live there and we love them we love them but from the sky it looks like just a big wrecked car and there's old refrigerators and freezers i mean you drive about every day you're used to it but i'm like look everybody's concerned why go spend ten thousand dollars for a fancy box when we got, there's enough freezers and refrigerators that people have just dumped in our parish. In our parish that I can bury the state for 10 years.

Now, that's a pretty good idea. That's environmentally friendly because you're getting rid of all the old stuff that's sitting around. To finish that text up I read a while ago, listen, we believe that Jesus died and rose again. Now, how would you explain this unless you know. you can be fully alive and an eternal being without your body. That's before Jesus comes back. He's coming back to raise the dead because watch.

You say, what's the only thing that he can raise from, whether they were cremated or scattered in the forewind? You say, how could he raise them up and give them their body back and a better body? We believe that Jesus died and rose again, so we believe that God, God, this is 1st Thessalonians 413, we believe that God will bring with Jesus in the time. Here comes Jesus. Those who have fallen asleep in him. Well, if he's bringing you back, he can't be bringing your body because it's out there been cremated or in the dust of the earth or in the ocean.

You're like, so what's he bringing? What's he bringing? He will bring those who have fallen asleep in him. according to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, what if you haven't died yet? And you're walking around on the earth. We who are left to the coming of the Lord will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. They get the first glimpse of the resurrection of the body. The Lord himself will come down from heaven, loud command, voice of the archangel, trumpet call of God,

and the dead in Christ, he's bringing them with him, their souls, their spirits, the invisible part of us, the dead in Christ will rise first. You say, well, what's the only thing that could rise? The bodies. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up with them and the clouds and meet the Lord in the air, and so we'll be with the Lord forever. In the final little word, there's therefore encourage each other with these words. they're very encouraging for him to come back

and we'll stand there and watch and all these bodies, the ones that weren't not a body, they became a body up in their mother's womb, they lived on the earth, they died, their body disappeared, rotted or whatever. The remains of the Apostle Paul, all of them, you probably can't even find them.

Right. But they're all just, it's back, and it's a glorified body that lives forever. We're in the book of John. In chapter 11, his friend died, Lazarus. Yep. He comes to the end of that session, which is there's a lot of powerful moments in that book. One is Jesus wept, which was the first verse I ever learned.

Yep. Because it was the shortest verse. Jesus wept. Two words. He wept even though he knew he was going to raise him up, which just shows you that our God is concerned. when we're concerned. When we're upset, he's upset. Even though he knows everything's going to be perfectly fine,

because then he said, take me to the tomb. But I want to read this. This is an obscure thought, but just to back up, you know, what we're talking about, he goes and he says, roll away the stone in verse 39. And Martha said, but Lord, and she was the sister of the dead man, Lazarus.

By this time, there is a bad odor. for he has been there four days. Look, the man is dead. Now, and my point is... And he is rotting. He's rotting. And no matter if he had been burned or riding is, you're now in a form,

you're basically, this is where I think that every TV producer in the world got the idea about, let's make a movie about zombie apocalypse. Somebody was reading John 11 because Jesus said, did I not tell you that if you, believe you would see the glory of God.

So they took away the stone. Jesus looked up and said, Father, I think that you have heard me. I knew that you would always hear me. But I said this for the benefit of the people standing there. And when he said that, he called out a loud voice. Lazarus come out. The dead man came out.

So we know he's rotting. It's a zombie. His hands and feet were wrapped in linen and a cloth around his face. How many times you've seen those movies? He's a mummy. He's a mummy. He's a zombie, though, because you see the rotting flesh, you know, and now they've made hundreds of movies.

Oh, yeah. You're asking about Jesus come back from the death of all. We don't believe in that stuff. I'm like, sure you do. I know we got the idea of this movie. His name was Lazarus. He walked around scary. He ended up saying, take off the grave.

Take off his grave clothes and let him go. He took off naked with rotting flesh through town going, And people say, I wonder where they got the idea about these movies. And the zombie apocalypse was born right there in John 11. Who knew? That's a good point. My point is, no matter what condition he was, if you had that power, it doesn't matter. Forget all this, what you saw on movies or about these custom and traditions or what the guys in the Greek theology said about how we are to handle bodies.

it's coming out of the ground. So we'll close on that one that in our opinion, in our biblical studied opinion, cremation, no problem, or any other way. If you're in Christ, you'll be resurrected. Well, as it's legal. Unfortunately, as long as it's legal, because really, when you said the idea about, you know,

take me out to sea? It's not far from all those guys in World War II that were killed and, you know, they didn't have, you couldn't put in refrigeration. So they just slid them off out in the ocean. I wouldn't mind you using my body to bait a catfish trout. Me either. You'd probably get a month out of me.

That's right. Hey. Oh, yeah, that's a great thought to end up. So next time on Unashame. We are so glad you're watching and listening to the Unashamed podcast. Be sure to like us on Facebook, subscribe on YouTube and iTunes. That's going to keep you up today with all the new episodes. And it's also going to let other people find out about our podcast.

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