Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 450 | Phil Is Hunting Rats & Jase Shares His Faith with a Young Man

Episode Date: March 27, 2022

Jase met a young guy while grocery shopping, and when he learned what the youth's plans for the weekend were, he felt compelled to share his faith with him. Phil shares an intense story about chasing ...a wharf rat with a BB gun inside his own home. Jase explains the difference between motivation by grace and motivation by incentives, and Al explains why unity within the church is of utmost importance. And Jase discusses points about Paul's letters to Corinth and the difficulties of working for hire within ministry. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Yeah, we're in First Corinthians 16, but Jason, we've got a lot of potential dangers today. So there's a storm outside. Oh, man. So if you hear thunder in the background. So there's a pretty good chance the lights will go out that's happened before. And then there's a wasp in here somewhere. I'll get that wasp.
Starting point is 00:00:22 So we're just going to keep cameras rolling because, you know how it is on Unashamed? We don't stop for anything, right? I chased a rat every hour or so. Recently? Last night, I had it went on all night. I kept trying to hem him up all I had. I didn't want to blow a hole in my floor. I was shooting him with a large weapon.
Starting point is 00:00:41 That's the way I was with those bats. I was like, how do you shoot inside your own house? You know, like the kids we used to have, the BB gun. And I checked it on a cardboard box. I said, well, it'll go through a double-layered wooden box. I said, so if I think I've made a headshot, I don't know him. I'd get him. So he's gnawing, but it sounds like he's in the room with you, but he's actually in the wall between you, your room, and the next room.
Starting point is 00:01:16 He's in there. Well, you've got to blow a hole through the wall to get him. But you didn't do that? I was within inches of where I knew I could just hear him sitting there gnawing. You need one of those heat. I mean, it's like teeth on wood. So Miss Kay comes in. She grabs me by the foot.
Starting point is 00:01:35 She said, he's in the bathroom tonight. He's in the bathroom. Three or four nights earlier, he was in the bedroom. Then it started with midway, but the bottom line is one of them did that and then died. And there was a little where a pipe goes from your commode through the wall. It was little flies were coming out of there. and even with me This is getting discussion
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah Yeah So I've been This is what happens When you live way out of the woods I chased that rat Last night for about Off and on
Starting point is 00:02:09 Until 2, 2, 3 o'clock in the morning I never did One of those infrared I'm armed with a BB gun And I thought If I got a flashlight I'll blind him by
Starting point is 00:02:18 And get in to look But But the rat The rat won last night So he's in the house And he's a big one Because I saw him About three nights ago, I saw the same rat.
Starting point is 00:02:30 The same thing gnawing around on stuff. But he won't come out in the open, but I got one shot at him at about a foot. But the gun had to be lying down on the floor like that. And just before I shot, I saw what piece of paper move. I could see that paper moving a little bit. He was up under a couch in one of them little rooms in there. Your dogs can't get him? Yeah, I remember I got a Miss Kay, your mother.
Starting point is 00:02:57 is a hoarder and and when you hear a rat you say well i just go over and kill him you're going through a mountain of stuff that holders keep which is why the rats are in there because there's a lot of stuff right that rats i mean yeah you mean phil i live down there for years i never remember a rat infestation not these big ones like that you have now you these are warf rats yeah they're not like mice these are uh from from tail to to nose they're about like They're about a foot, foot and a half long. That's a pretty good side of the apartments. And I asked a lot of them about it.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Some guy said, oh, yeah, I get you some antifreeze and put it in there. I thought, yeah, I got three dogs. Anterfreeze kills them instantly when they drink it. Yeah, get a little out. I'm like, p. That's a redneck solution. Kill everything. Then they got to stick them where they stick.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I did catch about three or four of them on the stickums where they get stuck. You may need to get some more stickles. I got some big track. I didn't work, got poison, and I put it to where a dog couldn't get to it. But evidently, the rats couldn't get to it either because I just hate to put poison scattered around inside my house. I'm just not that fired up about it yet. I agree. I mean, the poison is worse than the rat.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Of course, the problem is nobody, maybe it's not a problem. Nobody wants to come stay with you anymore. Like Mia went out there where she was scared death. She stayed up having to me. She's been talking about that experience. She's got her, watch them rats. And she's like, wow. She's got her mom's love for her arms.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I don't think of her mom. I don't like warf rats right now. Well, our listeners across this land of the beautiful, the what is it? Home of the Brave and all that. I said, well, we fight these rats. I don't know how long the human race has been fighting rats. I dare to say, I think it's been a battle for a long time. I'd say man against rats.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I'd say mice and rats. I'd probably go back to Noah in the Ark at least. Well, you know, you go back to some of the worst plagues in Europe. Yeah. Came with the rats. Yeah. They had it and then transferred it to human beings, the bubonic plague and the black lung and all these different things. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah. I mean, they're kind of nasty little. They're very much so. Varmint. I don't like it at all, but I mean, you know, I mean, I've, I've come. call in several professionals, but they keep coming up with poison. Yeah. And then I'm like, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Put poison in your closets. Put poison alone. You're going the Matt Dillon route. The problem is you're not a trick-shooter. I mean, I think the BB got in the house. But, I mean, it's just kind of embarrassing to tell somebody from 12 o'clock last night to about three o'clock. I'm sitting there growing man sitting down the floor where the BB.
Starting point is 00:05:55 gun. I mean, you know, it's, I wish I'd had a camera tree there for that. It's like your childhood. I killed a lot of barmaids, but I never got into the rat hunting business. Well, they say you reach an age where you go back to where you're pretty much like you're kids. You start over. You know, when I was 10 years old, I was, had a BB gun looking for rats. I mean, that's right. So you've made a full circle. One good thing we got going is being a man of the forest, as they say. I've stayed in the woods a lot. So when I've seen a lot of things in the woods,
Starting point is 00:06:28 it doesn't surprise me that if you have a dwelling with a roof on it, that the varmich will come. Yeah. In other words, the one trap that your youngest boy, he's had a chicken killing problem. Oh, yeah. He comes out there.
Starting point is 00:06:45 But now he has under his belt. He's caught opossums. He's caught, what was it, skunks? Raccoons. Raccoons. and Bobcat, so the farmers are getting bigger. I mean, that Bobcat, you know, he was... Oh, you're seeing the food chain go right up the line.
Starting point is 00:07:00 60 pounds, 60 pound Bobcat. You wonder where the chickens go. Yep. So that's up in Tennessee. So Tennessee folks up in them hills, that's up in the mountains, you know. Oh, yeah. But I'm down here in the flat country, but it's rats, mice, skunks, possum. But it is a new phenomenon because Jason's right.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I don't remember any rat problems we were growing up. Me either. Me either. Maybe some film eyes. I think they bore holes from up under your house, fine ways and gnaw. I hear them gnawing all the time. I see wood chips here, there, you know. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:33 You know, under the sink, I caught about three under my sink in the kitchen. They had all kinds of, you know, stuff, the women, you know, whatever, clean floors and all, you know. They had about 15, 20 bottles were back over in the back. I just saw rat peels. I said, hmm. And so I trapped that, and I did pretty good on that run. I caught three or four folks. You know, last year, when we had the snowpocalypse, they call it down here,
Starting point is 00:08:01 we had that deep freeze, remember for about a week? So that's when all the field mice moved into my house, which I could hear them scramm went around. I was willing to live and let live until the cold went away until they started coming out and getting them on the counter and eating my avocados right in front of me. So some of the city dwellers say, what are you been doing lately? They're killing rats. I mean, and it's a serious thing.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Isn't that a saying? They're waking you up. Let's get about the rat killing. They're gnawing. It's so loud, they'd wake you up. Yeah, that's not. I don't know, Dad. Yeah, it's a 911 situation.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah. Luckily, Mom's a little bit better. So I wanted to mention my T-shirt, Jay's, which was kind of an homage to the Ukrainians, especially those that are having to flee. We got a lot of brothers and sisters over there too. So the guys at 316Ts.com, they made this. And so all the money they make from this T-shirt, they're going to donate to one kingdom for Ukrainian relief,
Starting point is 00:09:02 which is actually we got guys that are going in and providing that. So we'll check those guys out. Everything's charity. The people who would say speak out against men like us when we're discussing spiritual matters, where'd the cosmos come from, you know, did salt water make us, or is there a God of heaven who made us? Carl Marx dedicated a personal copy of his book, Das Kapital, to Charles Darwin, wrote him a letter as a fan, inscribing that he was a sincere admirer of the information he had come up with
Starting point is 00:09:44 regarding how the animal kingdom, how did the trees, how it all got here. Darwin also influenced, this was an 1800s, 1820 or so, Margaret Sanger, the champion of ripping babies out of wound. Oh, yeah. Frederick Ingalls, I remember Ingalls, studied him in history, Vladimir Lennon, Adolf Hitler, all big fans of Carl Marx, all of them.
Starting point is 00:10:14 of Charles Darwin. They were all big fans of Charles Darwin, the father of, what they call it? Evolution. Yeah, the father of evolution. Joseph Stalin, my old say dung, the one that slaughtered, just slaughtered human beings.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Pol Pot over there, around Cambodia, just slaughtered them by the millions. These mass killers, all as a group are adherents, and they bow down to Charles Darry. But just that makes you wonder, and now we're looking at Vladimir Putin, he's another one, just like him.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yep. Just murderous, just lies and murder is what he's famous for, which are his father, according to Jesus, is the evil one. Yep. John 8. John 8. Murder from the beginning. Your father was a murderer from the beginning and a liar. Father of lies.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Any of those that father. And look, it makes perfect sense. about that because if you were going to try to rule people with an iron fist and you were in charge and have to stay in charge, you couldn't really ever go to something where somebody else is over you. And by the way, you wrote in our notes, a lot of people wonder where this information come from. I ought to come from you, Al, about this one world order. Yeah. That's what they're after.
Starting point is 00:11:39 They want the one world order where a small little group. A small little group, you know. Exactly. A small little group gets all the money. Right. But their foot's on your neck. Yep. And that's where we're headed if we're not careful.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I mean, I'm just looking at the facts here. So. Every time these things rise, it always comes back to some bit of spiritual warfare. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, it's the rise and fall. You know, so I mean, I don't know what you say of them. We just have to be diligent. One of the quotes came from one of them, organized irreligial.
Starting point is 00:12:13 organized irreligion. That's what communism is. In the 20th century, committed atrocities just in the last hundred years. On a scale, the fiercest religious wars in the past never even came close to approaching. There's been wars between, you know, who was the bunch that went over? The pilgrims, not the pilgrims. This big mass, we're going to get rid of the Middle Easterners. We're going to kill all them, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Crusaders, you're talking about? Crusaders. You're the Crusaders, you know, those wars and all. Right. But the ones that have been on this one world order thing, the communism, nothing has come close to that. Of the slaughter of human beings. When you read the Old Testament, we're watching it right now.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Just as a big picture, when you look at the Old Testament, it's a bloodbath. Oh, yeah. We've been warring since we started. I mean, you know. I tried to look it up in the Encyclopedia. And I did. I'm not privy it to a cell phone or something, a computer. But I just looked at what the encyclopedias had to say about it.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And it's amazing. And I don't even, they didn't count half of them. But you talk about some wars just since I've been on the earth. It's just one after the other after the other. They're never going to stop. Just the slaughter of each other is in vogue. Well, it's satanic. That's what he does.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Well, it's either not. valuing other human beings because they're different or you want wealth or land or power you say it all the time dad if you love god and love your neighbor if that's the core of who you are you're not being a big war person you know what they're saying they're saying ah what what idiots just un-un-schooled they're just dumb if you want a you want a verse that's that's a bumper sticker verse which we're going to get to 16 which doesn't seem i mean it seems like like a wrap-up. Yeah, it's a wrap-up, but I like it because the fact that this is, the details of this
Starting point is 00:14:22 are too in detail just to think that somebody just crafted this up or made this up. I mean, when you look at it. It personalizes it. Hang on, Jason. Let's take a break. But I like this. I'm going to start signing this first Corinthians, 16, 14th. I mean, it's a bumper sticker.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It says, do everything in love. That's good. Yep. It's just, that's a good memory verse. They were asking me on all these interviews when I came out of this recent book, uncanceled, is what happened when Jesus died on the cross. The cancellation process, you sin, you die. He came down, kept the law, then died to get us out from under it,
Starting point is 00:15:16 put us under grace. and you'll be raised from the dead. All your sins are removed, and you'll be raised from the dead, which we're looking at right now, and someone said, we're the dumbos. But if this is true,
Starting point is 00:15:30 there's going to be weeping and wailing when they look up one day, and this whole thing ends, and they're like, oh, my goodness. You don't want to miss it. Them dumb rednecks were on to something. We just miss it. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I'd tell you what, I'd rather be where we are out where they are. Oh, yeah. Well, I think people get a misinterpretation when, like, when 51 of 15 says, I tell you a mystery, it's not like a mystery that, you know, when you look at the Greek word and it's meaning that. That you don't have an answer to. Well, that you can't figure out.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It's kind of like the, that passage where he said in 1st Corinthians 2, when it said none of the rulers of the eight, understood it you know God's secret wisdom a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began and none of the rulers of this age understood it but when you read this you know from cover to cover he has revealed it you can know I mean you think about the first John that says he's told us what the mystery is well right so that you may know that you have eternal life and he's saying it as is this is the mystery of all time.
Starting point is 00:16:50 In other words, as long as there's been mankind and death has ruled, the mystery is how do we escape? You know, how do we get off the planet alive? But can you imagine how many books have been written about the next life and there's been TV shows and documentaries? I used to watch that one. There was a show that was called, is it, I survived? or I think it was I survive and they would show like where people were abducted and they made it like from just criminal. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Mischief. But then they had another show in that light that was said, I survived beyond the grave. Those were. I have I have no idea what they were if someone, you know, they felt like they died or their heart stopped beating. And then that process of being resuscitated. they had this experience. Most of the times it was the light. It was the tunnel I saw.
Starting point is 00:17:51 But it was pretty interesting. And so I think people look at that. They were floating above themselves. They look at it as mysterious. But I'm like, no matter what, he's revealed this mystery in that there is a way to come back from the dead. Yeah. It's not something like you're hoping. The Jesus' body cannot be found nor could it be.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He wasn't there. He come back from the dead. He wasn't asleep. He needed resuscitation three days. He was dead. Yeah, and the time frame, it's interesting. Surely you've heard Ephesians chapter 3, verse 2, about the administration of God's grace that was given to me for you.
Starting point is 00:18:36 That is the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I've already written briefly. In reading this, then, you'll be able to understand my mind. insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to men and other generations. Before Jesus showed up, everybody, every man for himself. And I mean, you had a law that was a killer. You know, I mean, keep these or die. And men operated under that code for thousands of years.
Starting point is 00:19:09 It was not made known to men and other generations as it has now been revealed, Jesus showing up, by the Spirit, to God's holy apostles and prophets. This mystery is that through the gospel, the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel. I mentioned that, who's that catty's the brain, the little Jewish guy? Mark Levin? Not Mark Levine. Oh, Shapiro. Shapiro and I talked, I made him, I had him.
Starting point is 00:19:45 understand. I said, Chaparro, we, we, he's Jewish. Yeah, I said, we, I'm a lowly Gentile. I was grafted in to your tree, the Jewish tree. Right. And he was, he said, he paused a little bit, and he said, I appreciate that. I was letting him know, with Stu the Jews, our salvation came. Right. The Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one by shareers together in the promise of Christ Jesus. We're looking at it with the Corinthian letter on how it came about. I became a servant of this gospel. The gospel is the center of it, 1st, Corinthians 15, which we've been looking at,
Starting point is 00:20:28 by the gift of God's grace given me through the working of His power. Although I'm less than the least of all God's people, this grace was given me to preach to the Gentiles, the unsearchable riches of Christ. and it's certainly not going to be found in Charles Darwin, that's for sure. It was a mystery to him big time and his adherence. That's me talking right there instead of Ephesian. To make plain to everyone.
Starting point is 00:20:57 That's a little philadendum, by the way. To make plain, and Jace was right to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden. He's already said that, who created all things. His intent was, and here we sit, was that now through the church, that's us, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers. He's talking about the evil rulers, authorities in the heavenly realms. He's talking about Satan and in his cohort, according to his eternal purpose, which was behind the whole thing to save the human race, which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord, in him and through faith in him,
Starting point is 00:21:41 We may approach God with freedom and confidence. I ask you, therefore, not to be discouraged because of all my sufferings for you, which are your glory. Boy, what a text. So that's what we're looking at as it unfolds when you get to car rent. Right. That's my point, Phil. He spends this whole time writing this letter. They had all these problems from morality to, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:11 their assemblies looking more like something that was not godly. And in the overarching view, three times he mentions, God's not the God of disorder. That's what's going on here. Yeah, but he reminds him of the gospel. But he's the author of peace. He reminds him of the gospel. He has the chapter on love.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And then he goes all the way through this about the resurrection. And he gets to the end, 58 of 15. and he's like, stand firm, let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain. Yep. Which, by the way, that stand firm is the same thing he said at the start of 15. Remember on this gospel, in which you take in your stand?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Yeah. So he repeats that. Well, so if you stand on the gospel now and you, this resurrection is not some kind of mythical thing that you can't embrace. You have the Holy Spirit of God. It's no longer a mystery, how to get off planet Earth alive.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Mystery has been revealed. You remember when Peter said that. He's like, you know, people longed to look in these things, but it's been revealed by the sharing of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Yep. And through the Holy Spirit. Then he's like, even angels longed to look in these things. I mean, everybody was wondering how God was going to pull this off.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Well, he did. through Jesus coming to earth, and specifically his death, his life, death, burial, and resurrection, and continue life. So that's what he's saying. So then he's like, so go to work. And this is where I think modern day this is not translated. Because when you think about, like, because the next chapter, he starts talking about giving, we have this thing to where we give to the church. For somebody else to work.
Starting point is 00:24:08 so the people in charge at the church can work. We're hiring them. This is not what this says. Hang on, Jess. Let's take a break. This is like, y'all need to come together. Let Jesus be your Lord. He's, he's, because he said it almost 100 times in this letter.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Get away from bad company. Yeah, you're a son of God. You have the Holy Spirit. And so then when he gets to Second Corinthians, all of a sudden, it's like an army. It's like a bunch of warriors representing God because you know where we're going to get to in 2nd Corinthians 5 as though God were making his appeal through us. Yep.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So you're going to go work, which I get so frustrated. He's going to bring up we're now ambassadors. Exactly. I get so frustrated when I hear these sermons about people having sermons about trying to figure out what the plan of God is in your life. I'm like, the plan is clear. He said Jesus, he died, he was married, he was raised, you've surrendered to that. You have the same spirit that raised him from the dead.
Starting point is 00:25:23 So now you go be like Jesus in this planet. That is the work. Does I get that, Jay? Somebody will say these people will come up from these different. But don't put it in the school systems. I'm like, wait a minute, you take it out of the school systems and your school system will collapse. So Jay, so what does you say, so what is your school system? your five-year plan for the church. So, well, lead people to Jesus and disciple them. Yeah, but
Starting point is 00:25:49 specifically, what are their goals and what's going to be your yearly, you know, how are we going to measure your success? I was like, lead people to Jesus and disciple them. I mean, that's pretty much it. That's pretty much if you get that one down, you're doing the work that God, you know, call you do. Get that one down and the mystery is over. And you're right. In Ephesians, he said the reason you have supported people is to equip others to do the work of the kingdom. I mean, the idea is you're an equipper. You're not the worker. You're the equiper.
Starting point is 00:26:20 That's why in first. They tie that and say, well, you can't work for a little work because that mean you'd be on the work so not grace. You said, no, I'm doing the work because of his great. He sure spent a lot of time about work. He didn't just stop there. In 16, even says it some more. Where are you?
Starting point is 00:26:37 But I'm in. First, Corinthians, 16. Well, 1558. He says about that work, and then he brings it back up in 16 and 16. He says to submit to such as these and to everyone who joins in the work. And labors. And labors at it. What was all this work and labor?
Starting point is 00:27:02 I thought we were on the grace. I thought we were supposed to relax. You are on the grace. That's the way you're working. Yeah, because of grace, we work. I mean, you remember the first Timothy, 5, 7, I mean, he just dropped that out there when he said, he who does it work and provide for his family,
Starting point is 00:27:22 he's worse than an unbeliever. So don't ever, don't, you know, grace is what saves us, but even in Ephesians too. Do you remember what it says? I mean, which is one of the most famous passages in the Bible. It's like, you've been saved by grace. This is not from yourselves. This is after he talked about you were once disobedient
Starting point is 00:27:44 and you were under the control of the ruler of the kingdom of the air. But God in his love and mercy raised us up. Here's the resurrection and seated us with him in the heavenly realm through the plan of Jesus. It's by grace you've been saved, not by work so no one could boast. But then what does he say? For we are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus to do good works. that's why Sunday morning
Starting point is 00:28:11 that's why we're here that's why Sunday morning because a lot of our listeners say well I wonder what they do because they just run their mouth for a few hours and we see it on the internet but then they go on about their business
Starting point is 00:28:22 about the duck killing what they don't understand is like Sunday morning I looked up and there was eight different states being represented people from those states came down here to Louisiana
Starting point is 00:28:38 they were there and and and all this is just rehashed i mean the gospel symbols are right on the front of the little podium right behind me i have them on a screen there's god became flesh and i'll show them that and then he died on a crowd i'm going through it and someone says well the people that are already there why would you keep repeating that because why don't we get down to the deeper things of the truth. I said, that's as deep as you need to dig. It's Jesus, him crucified and raised from the dead. I said, the reason I'm going through it every Sunday morning when I see people visiting,
Starting point is 00:29:20 they're away from other places, this may be the only time they'll ever be able to hear it. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. But the podcast, this podcast brings them. But then we talk further. But my point is, look, so when I did this event this past weekend, there's two, 20 year old somethings that I shared, well, they were doing exactly what this is.
Starting point is 00:29:44 They were given themselves fully to the work of the Lord. Yep. Now, they get paid, one of them sells insurance and the other sells wood products. They just decided we need, because of what God has done for us and the resurrection that is ensuing, we're going to work,
Starting point is 00:30:05 because it's hard to pull off in a vein. vent where there's 1,200 people there, especially when you feed them. Yeah. I mean, you're talking about workouts. Oh, working. You imagine? And to pull it off that it's done professionally. So I'm saying here, to me, that's an example of what, they're not working to be saved.
Starting point is 00:30:26 They're working because they are saved in Jesus, and that's our purpose for being here. Same thing as Ephesians 2. But somewhere, you say, well, there's nothing we can do. It shouldn't be based on our performance. And he's going to get to that in 2 Corinthians, where he says that exact thing. This is in verse 9. I'm skipping ahead to 2nd Corinthians. Chapter 1.9.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah, 1.9, because it says, indeed, in our hearts, we felt the sentence of death because people were, you know, threatening them. And eventually, guess what would happen to most of them? They all died because of their faith in Jesus. but this happened. Now listen to this. He wasn't griping that people were trying to kill him. He wasn't blaming God.
Starting point is 00:31:12 He says, but this happened, persecution, that we might not rely on ourselves, but on God who raises the dead. There you go. He's out there saying, I'm working. There's no doubt he's working. And I'm being threatened to quit working for the Lord. but I realize that God raises people from the dead.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He did the same thing in chapter 15 here. By the way, he gets all stirred up about the resurrection, and he's like, give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord. Who's he talking about? Just ranking file members. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Sure. By the way. Hang on, Dave. Hang on, Dave, for you. Right. Let's take a break. He has delivered us, after he said he's raised in the dead,
Starting point is 00:32:03 from such a deadly peril, dying without Jesus. He said, that's a deadly peril there. That's it. And he will deliver us. On him, we've set our hope that he will continue to deliver us. So being delivered from physical death and living forever, immortality is riding on all this to our listeners.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You say, what's at stake here there, redneck? I say, well, the stake is immortality. that's what we're talking about here. Well, and it is an amazing arc, which we'll take the jump when we get into the 2nd Corinthians, that if I had two words to describe these two books, the first one would be disunity, would be my description of 1st Corinthians, even though obviously there's some stuff in that. But there's a lot of it among the churches.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And then the 2nd Corinthians, though, it's all about ministry. I mean, Jason's right. It goes from like this disjointed, disunited, disunited group of people to we're going to take the world for Jesus. I mean, it's an incredible. Look, and it's male and female. Nobody's thinking about when it says, if anyone is in Christ,
Starting point is 00:33:14 when he gets to that chapter four and five of Second Corinthians, he's like, he's a new creation. We don't look at people from a worldly point of view anymore. Right. And then he launches into this as though God, who's reconciling the world to himself, he's using us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And so you're not thinking, oh, was he just talking about the church leaders and the pastors? No, you're talking about everybody. Everybody. Everybody represents Jesus. Just like what I keep going back to that event. We had planners. They had volunteers. They had cooks.
Starting point is 00:33:51 They had a speaker, me. But, I mean, we all worked together hard. I had the easiest job. I just got up there and talk. And then I, they were like, do you want to stay after and linger? I was like, no. I mean, because somebody else comes in. They were like, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Not much of it lingered. We worked with the homeless. You say, well, why would you fool with them? They're human beings. God loves them. And Jesus died for them. We work with people who are homeless. You say, what do they do?
Starting point is 00:34:23 They work with the homeless. Yeah. We teach them to share with their homeless brothers what God has done through Jesus. So you have the homeless working with the homeless. But everybody's together, all these different people, some are wealthy, some are not. You say, but all the way down to on the street. During that, you say, have y'all got any grub coming?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Because, you know, if you're homeless, you know, you're walking down the road. And the street, you know, where are you going to get your next meal? Well, if you can make out every week, you got us sitting there. And the grub is flowing. We're providing food. We don't care where you came from. Homeless. Do you have a house?
Starting point is 00:35:10 We're not worried about that. But you make a good point. You have to, people who have been delivered from something, tend to have a heart to want to go help deliver other people. That's it. So that's what you had on the last podcast, Jay's talked about speaking at our local Celebrate Recovery. I mean, mostly people who have come through some sort of addiction are the ones you're going to go back and say, we want to help you come out. When I go to these, Elise and I speak at a time, ton of pregnancy center fundraisers and pro-life events, almost every one of the staff of
Starting point is 00:35:40 these organizations, which are amazing around the country, 3,000 pregnancies in it. They're trying to do battle with parenthood, you know, to give women an alternative. You don't have to kill your baby. I mean, there are people that adopt it. Let us help you walk through it. But these women are almost all, I mean, these groups are almost all led by women who had had an abortion and then God had healed them from what happened. And they're like, I don't want anybody to feel like I felt. So they're almost all run by people who have had that deliverance. And they're
Starting point is 00:36:12 like, I want to help you. So that's, really, that's a big key to this whole thing about ministry. It's about once I've been delivered, I want to help deliver other people. Well, it's like Colossians 323 when it says, whatever you do work at it with all your heart is working for the Lord, not for me. It's a famous verse. But my point is, Then he says, since you think you will receive an inheritance from the Lord, it doesn't say that. Since you know, you will receive an inheritance from the Lord, which we're going back to that.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It doesn't say since you hope you get it in. Yeah, since you hope you'll receiving it. No, you know, you've been saved. You're in. You're going to live forever. And so then you should ask yourself a question. Well, what now? And that's just what is crazy to me
Starting point is 00:36:59 When you're in these churches And they're like, we've got to try to figure out what the plan is Yeah The plan is pretty evident But they don't like the fact Because you're like, well, everybody is not supposed to Or everybody doesn't have the talent of sharing Jesus And I think when they come up with that
Starting point is 00:37:18 They're missing the whole point We're sharing Jesus. That is the plan. And you don't have to be a scholar or a theological. You don't have to be a, or even a public speaker or whatever, but there are, I mean, I just think that there are opportunities. I mean, I was at the grocery store yesterday and there's, it's the type of grocery store where they have the young, the young bucks that carry your groceries out or whatever. Which I did, by the way, when I was a teenager. I noticed this young buck who, just got to look about him, you know. He had, because one day I was coming out of the grocery store and I saw him, his truck was all one of these, they call him tricky truck.
Starting point is 00:38:02 It like bounces up and down. It's pretty incredible that someone designed it. You can drive down the road. I saw a bunch of, and they used to have a commercial with the Latinos. That's right. Out in L.A. Yeah. I have a feeling that won't, that's not good for the suspension ultimate of your car.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Well, they, no, I think they got it designed. and uh jay's hopping up and down vehicles weren't designed they make them like that i know but i'm saying that thing's gonna be in the shop what i'm saying is what's his jumping pick up because he had music playing so loud and there was a lot of four letter words in it as he just drove by you know that i noticed that he worked in there and so i thought huh that's interesting well i he was my guy yesterday and i thought huh i said every time i come around here I see you because I've seen him in there before and he said I'm making that money I'm working and I was like what are you going to do with it and he said well I'm fixing to go down to
Starting point is 00:39:03 some beat somewhere in Florida I was like we're going down there for and he's like spring break oh boy so I said well in a jumping truck here it is just because here because I thought to myself now I've I've started this conversation yep and because I'm saved and because I'm going to live forever and because I'm a new creation, and now this has come up, because I know what's fixed to go on down there. I said, I'm going there. You know what, Jay?
Starting point is 00:39:30 I said, you better. There'll be more jumping than the truck when he gets down there. I said, you better take your Bible, will you? And he went, I mean, it was an audible, huh, like, what? The last thing. Bible. I said.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Hang on, Jay, let's take him. And he was just looking at it. me dumbfounded. I said, there's going to be a lot of cutting up down there. I said, no, when I was your age, I said, I had been introduced to the Lord Jesus, the one who was resurrected from the ground. He was dead, and then he come back out of the ground. What was the look on his face when you were? He was just looking scared then. Because now we're walking to my truck. And I said, you've heard that, hadn't you? And he went, not real sure. I said, oh, yeah, you're. you're sure if you've heard it or not.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Either you have or you have it. I was thinking, what are you not sure that you've ever heard this? I mean, yeah, you know if you've heard that. So I said, you're wondering what my point is. My point is you're working so hard and you're fixed to go blow all your money on something that's probably going to start a process that's going to take you to the grave or to a prison cell a lot quicker than you ought. Good, man.
Starting point is 00:40:58 This guy got a lot more than he bargained. He's a teenager. And I said, but here's the good news. I said, there is an alternative way to live life. I said, the reason I surrendered to Jesus is because I believe my favorite thing to do is duck hunt. I said, the years may be to drive trucks that jump up and down while you're driving in them. I said, I saw you come by. I said, but this is the, no, there's no.
Starting point is 00:41:26 No, granny. He was scared of death. But I said, this is the only way that I know of that you can live forever. I was like, and so I was a young buck when I followed Jesus. You can do it. I said, but, you know, just to go down there and waste all your money and waste your time and probably get in trouble with the law and just, I was like, you don't need to do that.
Starting point is 00:41:49 He's nothing, crickets. But I thought, you know what, I planted the seed. I mean, he probably will go down there. and I didn't have to do it But my point is Did you give him a good tip too? No You didn't tell him?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Nothing. I know where that money's going. Well, as soon as you As soon as you finish your He went back as some crazy man to bring up. Yeah, after hearing your little sermonette there, instantaneously I heard thunder roll from the heavens. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:42:18 Amen. That's God giving us amen. I touched all. Well, I mean, I got off into that story because, I mean, that happened yesterday. I didn't, like, designate, oh, it's time for church work now. There's a young kid. You just had an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Well, I'm not, he's driving by playing just filthy music where everybody can hear. He's making a statement. He's the one that went public with that. I didn't mind the truck, but just, I'm like, I'm trying to go to the grocery store here, but that was weeks before. And now, he knows who I am. And so I was like, what are you fixed? You telling me, you're going to go to Spray.
Starting point is 00:42:54 dream break i just deem that as he he's wanting a little spiritual not you know not a war yeah it's a little jabby fight he was letting you know where he's doing hey i'm going down there and i'm like we're going tie one on that's just dumb i didn't say that but i was like that's a bad move take your bible with and here's why i thought it was a good thing to do no but you planted a seat i can guarantee you that kid's gonna think about it at some point there and now probably unfortunately when he's you know, in trouble is when he... Yeah, look, do I think that that stopped him from going? No, he's going down there.
Starting point is 00:43:32 But I do think if he does wind up in a sticky situation one day, maybe he'll think, you know, there is a way out of this. Yeah, I remember old guy out there in the parking lot told me about these days. But I'm locked up, but I should have listened to him. That's right. Well, you know that's where... Yep, there it went. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Are we still rolling? Are we still rolling? I said it was coming. I gave you fair warning. That's either shut up or keep talking. I felt like now that I got my ears cleaned out, I felt like the lightning entered this ear and came out the other side. I don't know if y'all felt that sensation.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I heard it, yeah. I felt a sparkle in between my ears. So I wanted to read this. Look, first John four. You never know what you're going to get on Unashamed. I'll tell you that right now. Well, the name of this podcast should be Thunders. And light, literally.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Well, you can't believe in the resurrection, talk about the resurrection, and be sitting over in a corner wondering if you fix to get struck by lightning. I figure if this is the way to go. All right. Because we told the story for it. I actually got struck by lightning one time. You were there.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah, you did. But, Al, you were not leading a lot. Yeah, I was in a bad way then. I'm glad the Lord's parents. You come that close to missing out on this thing. I was close. So 1 John 4 says in reference to do everything in love, which he says, and this is what we're going to get to in 2 Corinthians about this, give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord. When he says in verse 16, and so we know and rely on the love God has for us, God is love.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Whoever lives in love lives in God and God in Him. because look this young buck that I talked to yesterday deep down I mean I wasn't going to get all syrupy and flowery but if I didn't love the guy I just said hey go go waste your life you know good luck yeah have fun you know have some but I know what's going on down there and it's not it's nothing good that's going to be beneficial but I think your instinct was on target because he was telling you as a young man here's where I'm at and you're telling him as an older man you're not in a good place. No. I mean, the only thing he told me is where he was going. Why would he tell me that? Yeah. I'm not going to sit by and let you tell me where you're going without responding in a
Starting point is 00:46:00 spiritual way. Let's go to work. I thought, yep, there's my job right now. So I want to read this. In this way, love is made complete on us to go back to where this all started, that we will have confidence on the day of judgment. Well, the day of judgment is post-resurrection. And you can be confident.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Why? Because in this world, we're like him. So that's everywhere I go. And I know a lot of religious people disagree with this. That's why I'm saying, I disagree with you disagree. Because I think in this world, once you understand who Jesus is, you surrender. The process of you understanding who Jesus is and responding, therefore qualifies you to go out and share Jesus in some way. That is now your job, your work. That's why that Philemon 6 says,
Starting point is 00:46:53 I pray that you may be active in sharing your faith so that you will have a full understanding of everything we have in Christ. Most people look at that backwards. Get a full understanding, then go share. That's why people say, well, I don't know the verse. I don't know enough. I don't know. I mean, I would share, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:15 There was no verses that were quoted. or shared in this discussion in the parking lot at the grocery store yesterday. It was more, here's the facts, here's a way to live forever, there's something more noble you can do with your life. I did it at your age. And look, I did tell him, I said,
Starting point is 00:47:36 I spent some lonely nights. I said, and everybody, you know, thought I was a weirdo and a goody, goody and a Jesus freak for a while. I did share that with him. I said, but you know who all those guys called later on in life, even from their prison cell, when life didn't go as planned,
Starting point is 00:47:54 the same old freaky dude. I said, so I'm just letting you know. One too many beaches. Yeah. Well, I mean, I saw on the news the night. I mean, there's people, they've, in Miami, they've declared a state of emergency. And I thought, oh, what is this?
Starting point is 00:48:11 I just happened to see the banner. Oh, it's their spring breakers. There was shootings. and mayhem. So I'd already had that seed planted in my mind. Are we taking a break? No, I think we're out of time, huh? Al literally just said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:48:31 I'm out of here. So, all right, we'll see y'all. Most people don't bring it up during a podcast where it's time to take a leak, but you might as well know when it's time to take a leak, it's time to take a leak. It happens. So we'll see you in O.
Starting point is 00:48:46 overtime, I'm hoping now is back. Depends on the degree of this nature calling. See in a bit. That was an emergency exit. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes.
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