Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 459 | Sadie Robertson & Christian Huff’s Love Story & Why Phil Really Built His Podcast Studio

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

Christian Huff joins the guys to discuss being a new dad and a new Robertson family member. Phil gets Christian to describe how he met Sadie and when he knew that he loved her. Al tells a great story about Willie and a game of Scrabble, and Jase recalls when he asked Missy's parents if he could marry her. Phil reveals why he originally built his podcast studio, and Christian shares why he and Sadie named their daughter Honey. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed Listen to Christian Huff's new faith & fitness podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-4-8-men-podcast/id1592787728 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So unashamed audience, we are welcoming for the first time to the unashamed lair, Christian Huff, husband of Sadie Huff, father of honey huff. Is that a good way to be described? That's a good way to describe it. All right, so I have to ask you first thing, Christian, every guest we have, I always ask them the same question as we get kicked off. What did you think?

because you've never been in the lair, right? Nope, first time in the layer. So you knew you were coming to the podcast. What did you think as you drove up and as you walked into where we are? What was going on in your brain? Well, it really is a layer. You know, it's like a bunker in the middle of nowhere. And you would not think that something successful comes out of there.

That may be the best description I've heard so far. This is how it's going to be today. No, I think that's it good. That's a good summation. I mean, the room is perfect, but then you come to the building and you just wouldn't think that, you wouldn't think that this is in the building. Nothing happens there of consequence. That's what you think.

You know what's ironic just occurred to me when y'all, when y'all were talking, is that when I had this room, this little room right here with the cabinets, we have run in hot water, have a bathroom. you know, a map of the premises. When I put this and told them to build it, I don't know why I told them to build it. And someone said, well, what is that? And I said, I don't know why I said, we built a room.

I said, if somebody visits us, they can stay in there. So they put bunk beds in here. It was a little park. And we called it the lair. But I never, at that point, there was no mention of any podcasts at all. I mean, but when it came time, Why are we here? Well, I don't know.

That's what I'm trying to. I just got sucked into a void. I built a little room on the end of a big barn. But doesn't Willie own this place? No. Oh. Dad owns it. No, I only.

Oh, I thought Willie owns the land. Oh, he does own the land. And I cooked up the deal for him, and I said, look, I've been buying this property. Boy, I didn't know that. I said, there's about 35 acres out down there. I said, why should I buy it all? Y'all go inherited anyway. Shuck out some money.

Well, that was a good line. And Willie fell for that. Yeah, Willie said, how much is it? I said, I said, 35 acres. I don't forget what it was an acre, but not outrageous. Yeah. But I said, I think it gives us a little bit of on the edge of a hill out of the backwater. The backwater comes within inches several times of getting on the floor.

I don't think it would hurt anything if it got back in here. I think it might. Well, it might. Well, this, Christian, this is coming from a man. All this floods all out to our left and all out and with my arm is going. It all floods. The road itself out there, you come in on it, it floods. We're on the highest point, right?

He's prone to floods. So, Christian, this is coming from a man that when I asked him one time, how do you get your underwear? Like, how do they show up in your house? He said, I don't know. He said, I open a drawer and they're in there. And when they wear out, I open the door and there's new ones, like there's an underwear fairy. Yeah, kind of like the tooth fairy. Yeah.

Most people, most people, but you've thrown a wrench in the cog with, with, you're, you're moving in on little Miss Sadie, my granddaughter. He's not, he moved in. He moved in. He moved in there. He's not moving in. He's moved. But the only difference in what he, the way he's doing, is most of their women, you know, at least, their mother, you know, they're quiet and they act about half scared.

This is when they're 16, 16 and 17. No, none of our own. You're a woman, the woman you married, my granddaughter, and she would be y'all's what, cousin? Neat. Neathe. She's, she, little Miss Sadie, when she was five years old, somebody, you know, the Howard's film, everything.

They got cameras. and they filmed Miss Sadie when she's five, four or five years old. And Bible verses and the fear of God and the love of it. It's coming out of that girl's mouth when she was five years old. Well, by the time she reached 10, it just escalated. What I'm saying is most females would not take it to the, to where she went. I mean, by the time she was 20, she's reaching the world with just Bible, the love of God. It's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen since I've been on planet Earth.

Well, my granddaughter, Sadie, his wife, what she does. She's a, you know, our family, obviously, everybody in our family has unique gifts and a lot of ministry ability. But Sadie is a special progeny in our family. me. She just, and dad's right, from a very young age, there was something unique about her. And, of course, you know, like everybody in our family, I've prayed for not just my kids, but Jaises and Willys and Jeps that they would, God would guide them to the person that they would be able to be even more dynamic with. So you were prayed for long before you showed up. That's what I wanted to hear how you all met.

Yeah, me too. I've never heard the story. On top of all of it, his name is Christian. Well, that's why. Yeah, okay. That's Sadie. Well, it was funny. I was almost named Hunter. So both names could have gone either way by joining the family. Yeah.

Well, Dad asked me the other day when he was telling the story about Sadie, and I said, yeah, and her husband, Christian's going to be on the podcast next week. And he said, do you think they named him that knowing he would marry Sadie? I said, I don't know, Dad. Maybe they had the forethought. They might have. They might have. I didn't know the Hunter option. Yeah, that was a, yeah, I was almost named Hunter.

And then they wanted to name me Christian. You just have one brother? Yep, just one brother. And he played. Is he still playing? Yeah, he's playing baseball at Georgia Tech. Okay. Who is it in the book of Acts, Philip?

Philip said, all it ever says about him is he had four daughters who prophesied. Yeah. So when I saw what Sadie was doing, I said, well, all I can say is at a young age, she started prophesying. She did. And she's still at it. She's just speaking the word. I've never quite seen anything like it. It's really amazing.

I tried because we weren't obviously going to have, you know, plan three kids, but I told Missy, I was like, I got it. I remember one and I was like, if we have three kids, I got the names. And she was like, I don't want to hear them. I was like, no, no, you do. This is really good. This is not something you're going to go, oh, no, this is terrible. I said, so firstborn, hunter.

Nextborn, fisher. Thirdborn, gatherer. Gatherer Gatherer You had me at hunter and fisher But you lost me a gatherer Jay says it's just a true story

Yeah Of course it's a true story And she said that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard Would you call it Gatty or something What would be the nickname for a gather Oh I mean

Gathe Kathy It's what we do here We hunt we fish and we gather So I see that your plan Worked out beautifully With Reed, Cole and Mia It became a sensitive issue.

But I thought it was brilliant, but it didn't work. All right. So tell us, we want to know, because I don't think any of us know how you met Sadie and give us the background of how that came. When's the first time you saw her? That's good. Well, there was a backstory before we met, but we met. Give us the backstory.

We got a whole podcast here. Well, obviously I watched the show growing up. So I had had a reference to Sadie, and I thought she was very pretty. We were the same age. And when I was a freshman in high school on my baseball team, I jokingly told some friends that I was going to marry her. Really? Called your shot.

I did call my shot as a joke. But you weren't really joking. I don't think I was really joking. Yeah. So this was the Babe Ruth woman in your life. That's right. Yes, this was it. And you said, I'm going to marry that girl.

This was it. And then my... Then you're in Florida, right? Is that what you grew up? Yeah, Florida, yeah. So, and then my freshman year of college, I was at Auburn, and we went to a conference that Sadie was speaking at, but she was doing a, it was like a multi-site conference,

so she was speaking somewhere else. And, but we thought she was in the building, so I was there with probably 20 friends. And they said that out of all the guys there that I was the only one that would ever have a shot with her. So they told me to message her, which, so then I messaged her that conference, and then she ended up not seeing it for two years,

which was when we met. So you sent her a note saying they've nominated me. So it all comes back through social media. But yeah, so I messaged her. I like that, though. She didn't see it for two years. Oh, yeah. That's a pretty big, that's a pretty wide gap there. Yeah, that was 2016, and then we met in 2018.

But when you met, you met, you went, oh, hey, by the way. So this is funny. So I had known Bella. So which platform was it? Instagram? Yeah. So Bella is 80's sisters. So Sadie's younger sister, I'd met her through a mutual friend because one of their friends retired to the town I was from.

So I got to know them through that. And then I would always tell Bella to set me and Sadie up. I would always say, hey, can you just, you know, set us up? My birthday is June 9th. Her is the 11th. So I would always say we can do a combined birthday party kind of thing, which is funny because two years after that, we ended up getting engaged on our birthday. So how did you meet her the first time? That's what I'm getting there.

That's where I'm getting. We wanted the backstory. Talk as long as you want to. I'm getting there So dad ruined You said you're just going to nod every few minutes So it was the summer Going into my junior year of college

I was just home for the summer And from where I'm from Sadie and a bunch of her girlfriends Did like a girl's beach trip there And my cousin saw that they were there And my cousin was friends with Bella Who's Sadie's younger sister How did he see that they were there? Social media

Just social media Yeah Just posting pictures and naked This is how the world operates By the way, this is how, this is waving. Here's where it's going to me. He's talking. Look, so you can post a picture on social media.

Where's your meter when I was on? There are people with skill sets. They look in the background and they're like, I think they're here. Or you tag a location. But you know what? Dad's waiting. Dad's waiting on the, yeah, that somebody set us up to walk off the football field. It doesn't work like that anymore.

That's, you could throw me back in his time frame and the chances of me's meeting somebody would be zero. Well, I mean, I said it was a long shot already. You could have had football quarterback at Louisiana Tech, and then you would have had a lot of people trying to like you. Right. Yeah. Like you in a social media sense.

Likeing your pages. So then. So her friends were on a vacation. I was where I was from. And then they just said, hey, would you want to get together? And Sadie said, yeah, we're going crab hunting. Y'all can come if you want. So I joined my younger cousins.

went crab hunting with them and then we met. Y'all walking down the beach and... Yes, but I was hanging out with her friends the whole night because I'm not wanting to seem overly, uh... That's a good. You know, so I was, I was with her friends. You didn't want to come across as pushy. I didn't want to come across as pushy or like I was trying to do something.

With fear and trepidition, you, you came to know her. That's true. And she, and she, she, she thought that I was going to like one of her friends. So she was jealous of that. So then after the night... Did she tell you that or you just figured that. Later, after the fact. told me that. So then when we were leaving that night, she had actually followed on Instagram

everybody in my family except for me for some reason. So I jokingly said, do you know that you follow everybody except for me? And she like kind of laughed about it. And then that night followed me back. And that was when she saw the message that I sent her two years ago. Oh, wait. Yes. So then she took three days to respond. I think three days are significant. Here we have the little emblem here. Yeah. The resurrection. The resurrection. Um, So after three days, she messaged me back, and then we started talking on the phone, then went on a date about two months later, then got engaged like 10 months later, and then married like six months after that.

So it proceeded quickly. It did. Yeah, well, so I asked her on a date, and then she said, this was in July, and she said, what about September? And I was like, that's in two months. I was like, why do you want to wait two months to go on a date? She said, I'm busy. Yeah, well, she had just got out of a relationship, but we were going to be long distance.

So we wanted to cultivate the friendship aspect before we started dating. It was good. Yeah. So she was in Nashville. I was in Auburn, so we did long distance for about a year. So trekking back and forth. Let's take a break. You're actually getting to know each other via the computer.

Well, cell phones. Well, we were talking the phone, and then I drove up there every weekend to see her. So I'd be up there for three days every weekend. So when you said y'all were with Craven, was that, were we on vacation? Was that at Gulf Shores? It was just her and three of her girlfriends. It was in Seaside, yeah. So at what point did you realize the rest of the family did you say, uh-oh?

But you had a, you knew the show, so, like, you kind of had a background. You kind of knew what you were getting into. Yeah, I knew what I was getting into. Yeah. So during this, going up to that, so during the talking up to her on the cell phone and all that stuff, you know, when was the first time you said, I think I love you? Did you say I think I love you or do you say I know this sounds crazy, but I love you. How did you get her to see? This is a little bigger than I had. Yeah. Well, we, well, we had both, she had been waiting for me to say it, obviously. Did she say it? She said it to you? She did not say it

first. Huh? No, she did not say. I said it first, but she was clearly waiting for me to say it. But we wanted to have like a point where we had a serious conversation about this is what I've been through. This is what you've been through. And kind of like the whole testimonial kind of side of the relationship. And then after we got to fully know each other good, bad and ugly, that was when we said, I love you. Yeah. If they want to be, I love you. Then it's like, oh, by the way, I did this, this and this.

And it's like, I'm mad, I'm mad on that. Yeah. It's one of my favorite movies, the good, the bad and ugly. Yeah. Have you seen that? I don't think, yeah. Maybe on TV, but. Yeah.

I just watched it the other night. I used the line earlier before he came on air, you were talking about something, when Eastwood said to Eli Wallach, Tucko, he said, there's two kind of people in the world. One's with loaded guns and ones that dig. And he pitched in that shovel. Dig.

You need to watch that. Maybe y'all could have a movie night. Maybe we can. So when did Willie and Corey, when did they enter the scene? When did you make their daughter? She's talking to a guy from Alabama, Florida. I mean...

Dad thinks this all in one state, by the way. When did the parents, yours and hers, say, okay, wait a minute here. Let's see if we can follow what's going on here. So the first time, I met Corey a few times before I ever got to meet Willie. That's a plus. That's a bonus. So when you heard her speak, by the way, what did you think? You say, hmm, that may be my wife to be, whew, you know, because she gets pretty animated.

Well, I thought she was awesome, but I'd seen her. speak and stuff on social media, which you might not understand that. But I had seen videos of her speaking other places. So that was not. You were drawn. I was drawn to her. Yeah. And I thought she was attractive and just all those things. But I met Corey a few times. Willie was out of town a lot of times I was visiting. The first time we met was maybe like Thanksgiving break. We played tennis a few games and then got pretty close and then the first time my parents met her parents were it was in Nashville um and that was the weekend that I asked them if I could marry Sadie um you asked their permission you're like yes that was in April and then we got that was in March we got married

or got engaged in June did they answer you quickly did they say you we had we had like a two hour breakfast it was really good and then they gave me the blessing and then two months after that did you sense it was kind of a vetting process not really i mean we i had gotten pretty close with them throughout throughout the year um but it was good i think i think a lot of times willie intimidated me so i think that was like my p like my turning point of like he did not really intimidate me after that conversation from that conversation so have you heard the story of of when he when he asked about cori oh yeah yes yes yes they said no yeah you can tell the story oh it was it happened to my house the only time willie drove

to my house unannounced and just they just came in him and forth he's like you're not going to believe this. It's like what? They said no. Well, why'd you ask? So Willie was living in the front bedroom. He's not a big house in town. It was kind of a ministry house because our house was the hangout spot. Jason, Willie both were a lot of people leading them to Christ. And so they would all come over. They play cards every night. So he was living there in that front room. I walked up and I thought he left the TV on. There was like a war movie going on with the yelling and screaming. And so I opened the door.

He and Johnny and Chris are going at it. I mean, it was hostile. And I was like, uh-oh. Well, because I know, I'm pretty sure I don't want to botch it, but I'm pretty sure that when they asked where they would live, he said, like, in the backyard in the trailer. Yeah. They did not like that answer. No, they didn't. They had plans.

But, by the way, Jais's was no as well. And then I didn't even ask. because I knew what the answer was. Well, it wasn't a no. It was absolutely. So I went and then it was followed by not. Like a pause, like a. Oh.

So in our fan, the level above you, there were a lot of negative initially. But we weren't quite as cultured, I guess, as we were. I think some people would be intimidated. I mean, you're obviously a big strong guy. And, but, you know, Sadie is like to a field's point. I mean, she has a lot going on. I mean, she's a, I would, I've always deemed her. She's a powerful woman.

She's a very bold young woman. I mean, I would be a little nervous. I've just put myself in, in your situation. Yeah. I mean, how did you get through that process? Yeah, did it ever feel like, because you were going into a very well-known person. Yeah. It was very dynamic.

Did you, did that ever intimidates you or you just thought, no, because this will work out? I mean, what did you think about it? Dancing with the stars pre-married. She was only, like, so you would, y'all were just, like, dating at the time. No, it's way before. No dating. That was like two years before we ever knew each other. Yeah, way before.

Did you see that? I didn't see it. My, my mom saw it. I think my parents- I was kind of like, whoa. You know, my granddaughter is dancing on national television. I'm like, you, I don't know about all this. It ended up being a really, well, I think even my-

That was about the time you sent her the Instagram message. I was around that time. Well, even like platform-wise, just being on that show helped her from a platform perspective. No doubt. After the show. Sorry, what was your question? My question was, what do you coming into her world? Did that ever feel intimidated or do you feel like it now?

And I tell people all the time, Christian, that she married the perfect husband to assist her in ministry and what you guys do together. So I know how it's turned out. Yeah, how did you feel going into? Yeah. Well, there are elements even just from like, you know, people trying to like encourage you, but it comes a, it can like come across. It's like kind of condescending, you know. So there are things that leaders and different people had said of like it'll take, you know,

it might take you 10 years to find your like role and kind of like, just these different things where like it never really crossed my mind from the sense of like, you know, it didn't. And it didn't really make me insecure in the idea of like she has a big platform and all these different things. But I did feel called to, you know, to come alongside and help in whatever way I can and even just pursue the things that I'm passionate about. But there was a time where, you know, I just had a bunch of good godly guy friends around me and I had mentors that I would just, you know, if I felt anything or if I, you know, whether it was pride or insecurity, just confess these things and repent of that and just try to walk humbly. But there was times where like it was tough from the idea of like people, you know, change their perspective of you or whatever. And it's, you know, you're not going to be the one that's maybe providing financially X, Y,

and Z. Or like, you know, what is your role going to be, you know. It's not, you always knew it was never going to be a typical relationship because she's so well known. And now you are as well as being Sadie's husband. Yeah. Because she was so well known first. I mean, that's interesting.

So one of the first times I mentioned. you Christian. You may not remember this. So I think I'd met you once, but we flew in together. You were sitting in front of Lisa and I. We were coming for an event. And you had your Bible. You were reading something, your Bible, the entire trip. And we had spoken, but you were reading your Bible. And then as we're getting here ready for the circle to come into Monroe, you said, hey, let me tell you what I just discovered in this text. And so you and I had a little discussion about that. But instantly, I thought, all right, well, this guy may be a keeper. Because, I mean, number one, he's into the word of God and found that application for, you know, who you were.

So, yeah, that was, yeah, that was, I was impressed. Yeah, and even, like, there's, there's, there's moments where, like, you could let things like they get to. Even, like, if I do ever get recognized, it's like, oh, you're a status. You know, like, it's never like, oh, you're a Christian, you know. It's always like. That's what I meant. That has to be difficult. I mean, there's things like that.

But, I mean, if I let that get to me, then it just would, I would be miserable. then it would affect how I think you could just form resentment and it just wouldn't be helped. And that's why I tell people, now that I know you so well, is that I'm like, he's not intimidated by what they're doing. I mean, he's embraced that. He's a part of that, which we'll talk a little bit later about some of the stuff you got going on. And I love the fact that y'all built your whole relationship on Jesus and how you can help each other in that role, which I think those relationships usually work out. Yeah. So let's take another break.

All right. So one thing I was I asked you about, so you're a new dad. How old is, is honey a year old yet? She will be a year old next month. She'll be 11 months next month. So how is that? I mean, tell me about that experience in terms of just, you know, having a child and how that affected you. Well, now it's awesome.

When we first kick things off about a year ago, she never slept. And I know most babies don't sleep, but she had a colic super bad. She had a really bad, like, acid reflux problems. So she would go through, like, 10 outfits a day. She would sleep, then eat. But then she would scream for, like, three hours. And I was, I was struggling. I was like, my patience is, like, dwindling.

Like, it would be you would rock her to sleep, and that would take an hour. And then the moment you stop rocking, she would wake up. And then you try to put her into, so you couldn't get any, done. Like you couldn't, there was nothing that you could do. It was like 24-7, like having to do this. So from the beginning, I remember one time, Sadie was taking a bath, Honey was screaming, and I just took a break, and I went in the kitchen and made waffles. So Sadie, like, stormed in the room. Not stormed. She came in the room, honey's screaming in the crib. And I'm just eating waffles. And she was like, what are you? I was like, I can't. I needed. I needed a few minutes.

You needed a few minutes because it was just driving me crazy. But now she just started walking. She starts, she's walking super early. She's walking everywhere now. She only says dada, which is adorable. So she's at that age where her personality is coming in. She laughs all the time. She's super active.

She walks everywhere. And it's the most enjoyable thing now because you can see her personality. So it's been great. But starting off, it was definitely, it was definitely rougher than I was expecting it was going to be. So I don't know how the differences in your families. I wanted to get into that. The Corey's side of the family for sure. And last night was a perfect example.

I'd ask Christian about it because I saw him in the stand. So our, I guess he would be nephew. Yeah, my nephew. Yeah, nephew is playing on the same wee ball team. That's a we ball, Jay. It's not even T-ball. It's four and five-year-olds trying to play baseball. It's pre-tee ball.

It's pre-T, but they hit it off a T, but it's very fun. Oh, there's some things you just got to say, no. Well, yeah. Well, it's funny because it is, it's Wii ball, and this is no, Zane did great. This is no disrespect. But it was funny because one of our friends asked how it was going to go. And I was like, well, he can't talk yet, and he's still in diapers. So you tell me how this is going to go.

It's a great point. Well, so he plays on the same team with Pearl, which is my granddaughter. So I went over, Corby had a game on the other side of the park. So I'm back and forth trying to kind of see if they, you know, this I knew was just, just going to be a comical thing with the little ones. But I look up in the stands is the point I was heading to it. And like most people have, you know, like the parents and maybe the grandparents will come, you know, so you may have a little entourage of four or five people, which is what we do.

I look up the entire stands, they're not real big, but the entire stands are full of Corey's family. I mean, Mamma Joe is there. I mean, Chris is there, Corey's there. There's like 15 of us. Yeah, it was really funny. And I thought, well, welcome to the Howard family. That's what they do. So how is that different?

Was your family the same way? What's the differences? Because you live here now. Yeah. Similar in the idea of like both of my mom's parents are from the same town. My dad's parents both lived there. So I grew up being like 10 minutes away from both grandparents, kind of similar to Sadie and them. Yeah, usually if me and my brother were playing a sport, it'd usually be my parents.

And then if my both sets of grandparents can make it, they usually would come. But it would not be cousins and aunts and knuckles. It usually wouldn't be the whole entourage like they do. Yeah, I think we had four great grandkids last night and then 15 relatives. We took up half the bleachers. It was amazing. I told Dad, I was like, Dad, I mean, I saw Mama Joe there. It was her birthday yesterday as well.

And I was like, she's watching her great, great grandchild play Wii ball. I mean, you just think about that. I mean, that's, one is that's amazing legacy because she's still in such good shape in her 90s. But, I mean, the fact that you could witness that, I thought that's a, you know, that doesn't happen. Yeah. Just any way. This child is my great granddaughter. Right.

Honey. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly right. You're a great grandfather. Yeah. And every meaning of that phrase, Dad. Yeah.

Which we love. I did this thing a couple of podcasts ago. What was it last podcast? No, a couple podcasts ago. About Honey and the Rock, it's at Psalm 81. Brandon Lake. Yeah, Brooke Leisure's friend. So I kept thinking, I was like, is that why they named?

Or did y'all name? Yeah, tell us about that. That song came way after Honey was born. Yeah. Well, I meant maybe the verse or whatever, but. Not, yeah. So it came from Proverbs 1624 where it says, gracious words are like honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the bones.

But in hindsight, it's funny. So me and Sadie's first date, we went on in Nashville, or Franklin, I guess, the restaurant was called Tuplo Honey. That weekend, so when we were dating, we went through like the book of proverb. We did like a proverb of day together. And we got to Proverbs 1624 and Sadie just loved that verse. And then when I was up there, she wanted to do one of those like pottery things. You can like make your own pottery kind of you design it, whatever.

And she had had a pottery cup and had honey written on it. and we just kind of stored that away and then when we started you know thinking about names for a girl she wanted to name something after mama joe and her name is betty joe so there really wasn't much good to i mean i like betty joe no it's sweet but just like just there was careful christian no i'm not i love her name but i'm just saying like to remind something of her and she calls everybody honey Yeah. So we were like, it'd be sweet to name a daughter, Honey, Honey Huff rolls off the tongue. And then our first date was at Tubalow Honey, and we loved Proverbs 1624.

So it was in there. I thought it was in there. My mom Joe's one of the classiest people I've ever played. She's incredible. Oh, no, she's the best. Yeah. Well, I mean, just I see why when you said she calls everybody honey, I mean, I would have never thought about that, even in her to name your child after that quirk that she does. What I love about Joe, she's such a, she's a throwback to her era too,

because she's like, she's very strong, strong-willed woman, just, but tough, you know. I never forget, we were playing Scrabble one time on one of the family vacations, and she was playing, and Willie was playing, and you know how Willie is when you're playing Scrabble. It's just, it's just almost, you know, it's unbearable. And so he was making Joe so mad. And so I could see her over there, you know. And finally, he did one of his little mood. you know, and some word he's memorized from the dictionary, you know, and she challenged and lost.

And she said, oh, you're such a jackass. But, I mean, that was a throwback. And we all got so tickled because we'd never heard. That's hilarious. They don't say anything like that. But that's how mad Willie made her. Yeah. He is very difficult to play Scrabble with.

Not like he's annoying. He just knows every single Scrabble. But that's what he does. Yeah, it's very challenging. He shows out. which, you know, we could talk about Willie's fault. But then even like with honey, like, say, we just pray that she would be sweet and strong, which, you know, the idea of, like, resembling what her name was named after.

I love it. Let's take another break. So I want to talk about in our last few segments about some of the things that you guys are doing ministry-wise, because I know, like, you guys have spoken together some. What's some of the things y'all have done this people? I didn't know you were speaking together. They've done that. They've come see me.

Well, I did see y'all the other day. Yeah. We've done some Q&A events together. we have another one planned for the summer. But yeah, so speaking together in the sense of like, yeah, we've done some Q&As together traveling. And then a lot of messages that she does, we help we kind of prep together and just kind of nailing in on verses or even just ideas.

We talk a lot of things out together. So primarily she speaks by herself, but if we do Q&A, a lot of times we'll do them together. That's cool. Which I think is neat. One of the things I've said about what's been great for us to sort of watch say, ladies ministry grow because she started out as a teenager obviously from the show but then she had a real you know following of teenage girls at first of course obviously there were some guys that were liked her too but yeah i mean the the ministry side of it from early on she saw that opportunity as she

was doing that and now to watch her now as a young married woman as a mom and so a lot of stuff when i hear a podcast or she'll post something and i'll watch it it's been really neat to watch her revolution, you know, and watch her grow. And so a lot of those same followers and people that have read her books and, you know, listen to her podcast are now, you know, themselves getting married or, you know, getting engaged. And so I just think it's just going to grow up until you guys are, you know, as long as you can do it. Yeah. Because they're going to grow with her and with you. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And see it funny. You said that because I was just informed a few weeks ago that so I have 370,000 people following me on social on Instagram and 8% of those people

are guys so I was just informed that 92% of everyone that follows me is a female that's right um so that's because you're such a good looking guy that's scary that it's sad he fell about that well she jokes because I primarily only really post pictures of her and honey so she kind of says that's why um but it is funny yeah I was like so if I need to grow my male audience I need to start posting more manly things, I guess. But it was just funny. I was like, I never would have thought only 8% of that many people are guys that follow me. So when the group, when the group text went out that you guys were expecting my response,

because everybody has, you know, everybody's got to respond. But my response was, well, I guess we're going to have a superhero because Captain America has married Wonder Woman. So, you know, you know there's going to be some superhuman child. I was up somewhere in New York. I don't forget what I was doing up there, but somebody said, You probably just went on vacation just for a time. Sadie speaking, they said at a place up here, and I think it was outside New York City. It was in the white plains, yeah.

White plane, but anyway, so yeah, let's go in there. So I went in there. But I was shocked. I mean, there was 25,000 young ladies, young women about Sadie's age. And I'm looking at that. I said, man, she is really, really the speaker. Yeah, I think that may be the only time you've ever seen her like 12. I've seen her.

Yeah. It was somewhere in New York. She happened to be there, and we were in the city promoting something. Yeah. So dad got to see her. We were in the green room with it. I was impressed. She's impressive. So tell us about the podcast, because you got a podcast. Yeah. That was even funny. That was what I was referencing, even like with 8% of guys following the, even trying to scale that audience has been funny and interesting. But yeah, I wanted to start something kind of when COVID hit and then I graduated college.

You know, the world was shut down, so we weren't traveling, and I was, you know, what am I passionate about what I really want to do? And I enjoy working out. I enjoy sports and athletics and those kind of things. And I wanted to do something that kind of shined a light on both, you know, spiritual training and physical training. And then that was when I was led to the First Timothy 4-8, which is where the 4-8 men podcast comes from. I was going to ask you about the 4-8 because I thought it was another book. But you tell us that one first. And I'll tell you the one I guess.

Is that the name of the podcast? So this is not Sadie's by-case. Oh, this is Christian. What's her podcast call? Whoa, that's good. Yeah, whoa, that's good. Whoa, that's good. Whoa, that's good.

Yeah. That's a great, man. Yeah. Well, so I- And we're always competing, by the way, with Sadie and in our pie. She'll go ahead of us and we'll go ahead of her. So I had some other ideas. Like, somebody had thrown out like Bible and barbells, but I thought that was just, was a little too cheesy.

Yep. Good call. Yeah, I thought it was pretty cheesy. easy. And I'm just super passionate about the 4-8 verses where Paul instructs Timothy and he says that physical trainings have some value, but godliness is a value in every way, the translation that I have. But he, even just this idea that like, you know, we can train ourselves physically, but Paul says that that's only of some value if you compare that to training for godliness. So I have people on the podcast and we'll go through, you know, physical routines.

What do you do? How do you train physically? And then kind of more lighthearted stuff. And then we get into, you know, what's your testimony? do you actively train yourself spiritually? How do you disciple your family and what are ways that you do to train yourself in those areas? So yeah, I wanted to do something that encourages people to train physically, but challenges them to train spiritually. And I just know for me, they both, you know, it's almost like the flip side of the coin. I know that if I'm healthy physically, then for me, a lot of times, then I'm going to be healthy physically, then vice versa. If I'm disciplined physically and if I'm being healthy physically and I'm working out and I'm doing these things that I'm passionate about,

then I'm going to be benefited on my spiritual side too. So I kind of do it to where like if I go work out, I'm only listening to a sermon or worship music from the idea of like I want to try to, you know, if I'm going to get physically trained, I want to get something spiritual out of it. I don't want to go just try to get big and strong so I can feel like I look better. I want to do it to where, you know, I feel like God's giving me something that I'm passionate about. and by pursuing that, I want to also be benefited from it spiritually.

So the hope is like, every time you go train yourself physically, you're thinking about what am I doing for myself spiritually. So that's kind of been the heartbeat of it. It's been fun and enjoyable. How long have you been doing it? Launched in December.

So. And you do it once a week? Did we ever take him duck hunting? I've not been. He's right here. I haven't been duck hunting with you guys. No, I have not. We need to work him in.

He's very, bright. You've impressed. I don't mean bright in the mind. He's bright, plenty of bright there, but he's just bright white. You know what I'm saying? Bright white? Yeah. I think he's wanting you, it feel better if you'd grow some whiskers. Yeah. Maybe some face-based. He just seems very like. Yeah, but he's got a, he shaved recently. I shaved this morning. Actually for the podcast. Yeah. Oh, right? Yeah. I didn't have a beard. I started to, but I didn't have a beard. I'm glad you didn't because mama said if she ever rolled over and saw you without a beard, she thinks you committed adultery.

That's why for you. So let's take another break. I need to put him on the schedule. Take him back. All right. Will you go with us? I'll go with you. I'll go with you. That'd be fine.

Because it's just what you said. It's a great time to go out there. You've got a bunch of people. Six, six, six, seven people. You know, there's no profanity. There's no, there's nothing sinful. It's a good time out in the wild, as they say, you know. Ducks, we didn't really do.

too well this duck season but we all like that we just get up and go the next day you know yeah that'd be fun yeah you got an invite for there we go that's right something well it's i'm inviting him that means he likes you that means a lot yeah that was his subconscious saying we've got to do something about the brightness once you get out there literally thought he meant yeah enjoyed listen to him so much it was like no he's just i thought it was going to be something from like a physical like i can help carry something i thought that that was where you're going to that that might be the subconscious Something there. So I want to read that whole verse in the NIV, which is what we typically do when we study on here, because it's a great verse.

For physical training is of some value, but Godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come. Yeah. Which is a really good verse. It's a great verse. And your approach, I love because the idea is they are both important, but you could do, most people do one without the other. I mean, let's face it, most people that are into fitness doesn't mean they're not believers, but I mean, that's really what they're into, but to value them both and to understand that without taking care of the eternal side, you can look as great as you want to here.

But as dad's famous thing was, this guy, a workout guy at church that met with us, his parents said, Phil, would you talk to our son? And he said, nothing we've said has reached him. Right. And then tell what you said. I just walked up to him and I said, whoa, I saw him going across the parking. He looked like Arnold. He was really.

They asked me to try to talk to him. So I said, I saw him about a week after that. He's walking across the parking like going to his truck. And I walked up. I said, hey, I said, ooh, dude, you got some muscles. I said. I was standing beside him. And I was feeling it.

I mean, he was just a torque. He was being, the fellow was being, And what's the word? He was being a little bit like standoffish. Yeah, and I said, man, what are you going to do this big hulk of a man once it dies? And he's like. Yeah, then it really got awkward. See, all that's going in a six foot hole, muscles and all.

I said, what then? I said, you want to sit out and talk about it? And I said, I'll tell you what I'm. He said, all right. So he came down to the house and we studied for a couple of three weeks. about the way it went. That's awesome. He said, I really appreciate that.

I was actually surprised he showed up. Well, I ended up baptize him in the river. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. It was really great. But I mean, the approach is just what you're doing. I mean, you've gotten into this with physical.

Yeah. So it's like, yeah, it's even trying to bring in because it's, it forms a thing to where like, you know, I'll have athletes on who are more known for physical stuff and then they don't get a chance to really share their faith. And then I'll have people that are super, you know, pastors and stuff that are more known for their faith, but then people don't really know how they wake up in the mornings and go ride their bike for an hour or whatever. So it's like, it's been cool to just have the different perspectives of things and even have people, you know, be honest about, you know, I valued physical training

far more than I valued spiritual training than this is what happened to me. And then how this is how I incorporate both in my life in a healthy way. So it's even just trying to like, you know, bring out the idols and people to think fitness can be a big idol and aesthetics and what I look like and those things, even trying to like bring that down and then just raise up, how are you training your spirit for, like you said, for the life to come? When you get old as I am, you're about, what, 25? 23.

23. At 23, add about 50 to 55 to that. When you get there, you'll be looking at your muscle and say, yeah, I was talked up at one time, but boy, I'm so waiting on that resurrection. What I'm trying to tell you is at 23, the resurrection sometimes does not loom large, but at 75, 76, you say, boy, the resurrection has just gotten way bigger. Don't forget that. So Christian Dad came in on one of our early podcasts when we were filming at our other spot

where Tony Fills live now, and he comes in and we're talking about something. He said, yeah, and I noticed like his arm was just like really bruised. His sleeve was up a little bit, and I was like, on the podcast, I was like, Dad, what happened to your arm? He said, yeah. So he rose his sleeve up. His bicep had torn loose. Yeah, detached. Detached. And it just rolled into a ball. And it was just purple and memory like green. And it looked awful. It won't haunt me for. Did you ever go to the dark? That's him. Nah, it'd be all right. He said, yeah, we called. He looked pretty good. What happened to it? Well, tell him what you did.

I don't know. Somebody sent a picture of it to a surgeon and said, said, what do you think? And he said, ask him, is it hurting him? He said, is it hurting? I said, nope. I said, it hurt for about a week. I said, but it turned purple, green, and I don't know what all. I said, but right now, no problem. He said, ah, he said, I can fix it in 20 minutes.

He said, let it ride. You got to remember Phil's got some old school tendencies. He went, let's see, you didn't do any kind of deadening. No. I mean, you got to have a tooth worked on. He's just like, go ahead. I can say anything. I think he's the only human, Phil.

I think you're the only human being on the earth that ever had the urinalysis while awake, while watching the actual camera. And with no deadening there either. Well, if you watch enough of Matt Dillon, he's been winged, you know, somebody shot him so many times in the shoulder that for him to, trust me, the shoulder should be not even on his body. Yeah. It's been blown off. But they just, they patch him up and he's at the end of episode. That's your inspiration? He's back in the business.

I can count at least a hundred times he shot in the shoulder. I saw Phil get a rod removed from his eye without any deadening. Because we were on a duck hunting trip. They're like, well, we'll have to put you under. And he's like, no, you ain't get out of there. Let's go. So I'm saying. And that's happened more than once because I remember Granny pulled a thorn out.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I don't know what the tolerance. Stick hit my eye, went into my head, and brought. broke off, but it was way how that kept from blinding me. But my mother, I said, Mom, I got something in my eyes. Well, that was a different. And she says, she was trained in the nurse. She got a pair of tweeds, and she said, good grief.

And she just started pulling on it. Oh. And it came out about that long, a stick about the size of a pretty good size. It was about that long. Tickled your brain. What I was going to say is, I'm lucky on that one. I tried to, I mean, I've made this point. because, you know, we have our mutual family,

Jay Stone. Do you work out with him, so? Yeah, I used to a lot, boxing-wise, but I work out with him every now and then. Yeah. He's in more to the boxing. Yeah. He's really into jujitsu now.

Yeah. Oh, really? He's a big jiu-jitsu proponent. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just don't want to be rolling around on the ground. I don't want somebody to look over and see me down. Willie.

Willie was so funny last night. He was talking about juditsu from the perspective of like every like when you get in a fight you just tell the person to get on your knees so he was like somebody pulls out and goes like wait get on your knees that's right i got a money for you give me all your money wait get on your knees well there it would be a good skill set to have well it's a defensive it's a defensive discipline oh yeah i remember we got to this one i made a comment one time that he thought i was like dissing his physical workout but i was like look you need to be just as passionate about spiritual workouts because I mean I try to get a

through contemporary worship music or just Bible study or get something in my head you know a couple hours a day I mean I'm like this is my but I look at it from that perspective I you can't put a bunch of crap in your mind all day and then think you're going to turn out to be something spiritual it's not going to happen yeah well I think even with like muscles like you can think about like physical training like whether it's your legs or your or your arms.

Like there's spiritual muscles that you can work out too, you know, through prayer reading and like, you know, to. Yeah, that's a good policy there, Kristen. It is. Yeah, I think, and I think in our world, I mean, I think there's an audience for that. I mean, I just think that's a creative, good way, a good platform that got.

You and my granddaughter, y'all have, you, y'all, y'all are doing well, my man. You're to be commended both of them, I think, don't you? Oh, I think they're great. And today's culture? So, and, well, perfect segue, Dad, because we have, Christian, we have what we call an Unashamed overtime segment that we do that's on, it's on Blaze, Blase TV.com slash Unashame. So in that, I wanted to, Dad just segue it, I wanted to talk about your generation from your perspective and the best way to try to reach that generation. Because a lot of our listeners are, you're Gen Y, right? I think is it what they call yours now?

Gen Z, Gen X. Okay, whatever. Something like that. One of the gens. One of the gems. Is that what they're calling them? Something, yeah. That's not going to catch you.

Where did they get that? Don't worry about it. It's just one of those things. So we're going to go over to overtime. So if you want to follow us over, we'll hear Christian's thoughts on that. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube.

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