Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 462 | Jase Tests Out a Bible Tweet & Phil Shocks a Casino

Episode Date: April 17, 2022

Jase returns to social media after a break and tries out Twitter with a Bible verse, and the response was not what he was expecting. Phil can't help but bring up his faith in Jesus when he finds himse...lf in the middle of a crowded casino. Jase tells a story about the worst injury he has ever had, involving a three-legged race with a short person. And Al discusses Christians who tend to isolate within their churches into groups who think just like they do. Sign up to watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Well, this went off the rails. We hadn't even got started yet. So the last podcast we did, I was making a point about the internet, social media. Is it using you or are you using it, hopefully for something good? I think that's a good question. Everybody comes to a, to a crossroads when it comes to that. So for the most part, I have been away from social media for three or four years. I did one-time tweet.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I love LSU baseball after they did a walk-off, but I didn't hang around and see what everybody said. I mean, it was like midnight. There was nobody up probably anyway. But after what you said, Phil, I did a test last night, and I'm going to look at the results. I went to Twitter and I just quoted a verse, a Bible verse, which I think other people do that. I did that one time.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Well, you didn't do it on social media. I don't know who. What it was. Well, yeah, I remember that story. So I put love is patient, kind, rejoices in truth. It does not keep a record of wrongs. It does not delight in evil. It's not easily angered.
Starting point is 00:01:26 It's not self-seeking. nor boastful or envious, it always protects, trust, hopes, perseveres. Then I did a hashtag, which is kind of like if you can get something trending, and I put the verse 8, love never fails. So you want to see the results? Well, we have a love problem in the United States of America worldwide. That's what I thought. i.e., you know, Putin and what he's doing, you say that's the opposite of love.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Love never fails, so what's this guy doing? He's slaughtering his, yeah. Well, what I was thinking is... His fellow man, his slaughter. There's a lot of hashtags about love, and, you know, some people love pizza. When you use the word for all kinds of contexts, but if you define it, that gets difficult. When you kind of break those things down, that 1st Corinthians 13 says,
Starting point is 00:02:29 those are difficult things to do, not being easily angered. Oh. And most of the times, the reason you're easily angered is because you didn't stop and think about it. I mean, it's something happening, and you're hot immediately.
Starting point is 00:02:42 You don't know what love is yet. Well, right. So, and I did that last night, about 10 or 11 o'clock. So I got 688 people. they can click a little heart that means, which is ironic, that they love this. So I don't know if they are thinking about the definition when they actually click the heart. But there's some irony there.
Starting point is 00:03:12 64 people, I don't know how to explain this to you, Phil. They retweeted it. What's the tweet part? what do you have to say about it? No. Basically, they send out his sentiment over their feed by retweeting it. They're taking his tweet. No, he's not getting that out.
Starting point is 00:03:37 All their followers. This is brain surgery right now. What did they find wrong with? No, there was nothing wrong. They took that quote that I took from the Bible, and they put it on their thing, their page, their wall. They said, yeah, yeah, that's what I meant to say. So you didn't get any reverbs. No, we're getting to that.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I got 15 comments. We need to get rid of you because you're on the wrong road. We're liable to get into that. Who knows? We're doing this just right. So 15 comments, and I'm daring to do this. This is something I would never do. So yes.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Normally I don't read the comment to it. No, but if you're going to, I'm posting the definition. of love according to the holy scriptures i'm trying to get a beatles came out with all you need is love that's my point that that right there they did well with that saying so you're just what does love mean even the beetles got it but i define love according to the god's i think there's a difference the Beatles didn't define it too much the world i think needs to know the definition of love according to the bible tell me about okay so uh Thank you. All right. First one, positives. I love that verse. You got some amens. Amen. Amen. This guy had a music teacher that made a song out of that. It's really good. Okay. Thanks for sharing.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Was Paul McCartney the one teaching him? No, I don't know who this, who it is. You don't really know these people. They're just people. They have pictures. So there's a few about the Unashamed podcast. there's a reference to, oh, when I said I could be wrong. Oh, he said, I could be wrong in quotations. Because remember, I made, I think we ought to do a shirt over there. Yeah. It's already being made, I found out. Well, he put, I could be wrong, but I believe your podcast is the best out there.
Starting point is 00:05:38 But he put, I could be wrong in quotations. Now, see, that's clever. That's clever. This is why people used to like this stuff. Now, this fellow here said his priest used to this verse in one of the, is homilies. What's a homily? That's a sermon.
Starting point is 00:05:56 That's a sermon. The Catholic's word for sermon is a homily. In the homily, he said replace the word love with Jesus when reading it. Jesus is love. Good idea. Good idea. Great idea. A couple more amen's favorite verse.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Now somebody put a picture and there's two people holding a sea shape with their hand and put it together with the sky in the background. It's the shape of a heart. Now that's next level. That's pretty good. Okay. So, so far... You think they already had the picture?
Starting point is 00:06:25 They did it just based on your tweet. They could have walked outside and did it. No naysayers are cursing. Not possible right here. This is a long comment. Yep. Let me make sure there's no four-letter words here. No, this is, this is, okay, this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:46 This is... All right, so this is this guy's response to the devil's, definition of love. This level of love is especially necessary when you unknowingly drive your truck down the wrong road and get cussed out by some crazy wild-eyed demonic screaming that you've went down the wrong road. That's he's he's a listener because he's referring to your story. You remember you tell that story? Oh, is that my story? Yeah, you were, you were looking for that's what he's saying. Okay. That's what he's. He's referring to. He's referring to your story. You remember. He's referring to your story. No, that was scary. Yeah. Yeah. He's saying you got to be a,
Starting point is 00:07:27 you got to understand love to not react in a bad way. Yeah, I did that. And I had my buddy on the phone who heard the whole thing. Yeah, that was crazy. All right, we have one comment that is possibly contains offensive content. Uh-oh, here we go. I'm going to click it and I'm going to cover my eyes if it's something really bad. Nope. We have to be, we may have our first beep out on the same podcast you know what it says love never fails well how could that possibly be offensive to anybody love never fails so i guess so i don't know so the algorithm actually there was not one negative comment and a lot of people i mean in a few hours said yeah rock on so there that shows you it's it's it can be something good can happen
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. That was my point. So I proved it. It also means you don't. Well, that you might have entered a zone whereby it could keep these United States of America from collapsing. They understand. If they understand love, I know one thing. That took that thing to 30,000 feet in a hurry.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That's a big overview. It all started. with it also means you don't have a lot of trolls so dad do you know what a troll is somebody just going through just sifting information that's yeah that's exactly right and well and the trolls they they follow people that they don't like and then they comment make comments to their tweets and always negative and usually like badly negative like Franklin graham is a perfect example. He'll tweet something, you know, something positive and something good.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And if you go down and look at the comments, it's funny, I don't like reading my own comments, but every once in a while I read somebody else. And it's just brutal. I mean, the things they call them and talk about them. So they call them trolls. They're just trying to bait you into getting into a, you know, tit for tit with them. There's a word in the Bible for that. It's called depravity.
Starting point is 00:09:48 There you go. Depraved. depraved trolls. If you think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, you would say the first thing on the agenda was love God and love your neighbor. I don't see the downside to that, but you're saying there's a throng of people out there. They're saying no.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Yeah. Yeah, but it's not real. That's not the way to go. So if you say, well, if it's not love, what's the way to go, in your opinion? If they say hatred is what I'm about. I love to hate and I love to take out verbally. But is it really hate if you're just typing something on, I mean, it may be hate. But I'm saying if you didn't read it.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Out of the overflow of the heart, Jase, out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks. But I'm saying everybody is, it's an embellished version of yourself. You're 10 feet tall when you're on your couch eating Cheetos type in mean hateful things. That's right. I mean, it's always, it's always a personal attack, too. So a good example, and it didn't happen, and I'm glad it didn't, but a good example would be if Jay's put that tweet and then people were responding the way they did. And then somebody comes in and says, oh, yeah, you're a real lover of people. You hate this and you hate that.
Starting point is 00:11:09 You hate gays. You hate, you know, and then they just start in on you. And not even knowing you, but just based on whatever they've heard about you or whatever. I mean, that's what happened to Adam. You have platforms that obviously you don't personally get engaged. gazed in, but if you were to do the same thing, you have trolls, trust me. And that's the kind of stuff they would respond to. The number one, the number one issue when I did one after the other, after the other interviews that reached all the way across America. And they kept saying,
Starting point is 00:11:41 how are you going to retaliate? Because you were one of the first ones that the council culture attacked. So how you, how do you, what are you going to respond? What are you really canceled? What is it, it's, it's an illusion that people came up with. We're going to counsel you on social media platform. They started, you're not on social media. They were issuing, no, they were issued. I wasn't on any. Did you feel at any point canceled? No. That's what I'm saying. But they were saying, but you got canceled because did it cost you money, your company, because of you, you quoting a Bible verse. I said, yes, it did. cost money. I said, but I'm not in the judging business. I just point the people who said,
Starting point is 00:12:24 get him out of here, cancel that dude, because he quoted the Bible verse. But it really didn't cause you money because it all, you know, I mean, the show kept going or whatever. No, but he's talking about endorsements. They left for a week and then they come back. A lot of them never came back. But the endorsement deals, Jay, never came back. You had major companies. Oh, yeah, they hit the road. said we were done with you all that were endorsing you because they or and willie willy talks about losing a lot i asked willie about it he said it was millions i guess they just loved beam more i don't think anything they're talking about i mean you got the metal detector
Starting point is 00:13:05 you know you're no they probably the people the people endorse the i did remind i reminded the the interviewers that i was talking to i did remind them i said you know yeah they they clipped us I said, but I'm not mad about it. I'm kind of sad for them about it. So I just point them to Jesus. My knowledge. I said, I'll let God do the judging. One lawgiver, one judge, the one who can save and destroy.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I said, he'll work it out with them. I said, but I don't judge them, but I just point them to Jesus and keep moving. Well, the whole point of the book unc canceled was once your sins have been canceled, then you don't worry about trying to cancel anything or anybody else. No. I mean, we're all on the right time. The rich young ruler comes to mind. Maybe that's why Jesus said, hey, go sell everything you have.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I mean, my faith is not for sale to be held at ransom at any point. I mean, that story is real. I'm not going to compromise my faith based on some consequences of fame, fortune as far as money. I mean, that's just ridiculous. It's the, let's take a break. A good lead in to 2nd, Corinthians, and six, because what the Apostle Paul and the ones who were living by faith, he was saying some of the results, we commend ourselves on every way, great endurance, troubles,
Starting point is 00:14:37 hardships, beatings, impristers, beatings, imprisements, riots, hard work, sleepless nights, and hunger. Yeah, now that's real consequences for your faith. This is gone beyond. We have it rough down here, Jays, but I'm looking at. I'm saying. I'm looking at these people back in 2000 years ago, by the way, the people that was giving them all this trouble, you say, what finally happened after at the end of the day? That empire, including Carrent, part of the Roman Empire, it collapsed, out.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It's rubble. It is. So God won out on it the way it turned out, no doubt about it. That empire is no longer here. Well, in some of it. Now we're under the American Empire. We live in it. We're members of the kingdom inside a constitutional republic.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And we do the work of the kingdom inside the constitutional republic. And we warn people from the Bible, the verses. We give them the verses. It has warnings, admonitions, love God, love your neighbor. You can't go wrong. You know, don't be full of hatred and all of that. We try to get that. Good trees bear good fruit.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Bad trees, bear bad fruit. So it's an age-old struggle between good and evil. Yeah, but some of these hardships were being caused by people in the church also. That is correct. So, I mean, he addresses that. But I do think it's sobering. You know, I mean, you want some real suffering. I mean, when's the last time you've been beaten or in prison
Starting point is 00:16:13 or been involved in a riot because of your faith? See, the Apostle Paul would say, Boy, we have a prison ministry going on here. And they said, why would you want to do that? You say, because I'm in prison. Yeah. Well, we, you know. They put me in jail.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Well, what are you doing? I'm trying to convert the ones who put me in jail. And there's a lot of people that have been converted when they get to jail and become amazing. That is correct. That is correct. In jail. But, you know, we're kind of talking about this from the assumption of sort of the American church and model, obviously, because that's where we are. But, you know, around the world,
Starting point is 00:16:56 you go pick up or go to the website, Voice of the Martyrs, and read about some of the things that are happening to Christians today around the world, mostly by other religious groups, but, I mean, you know, sometimes governments as well. I mean, there are people that have the list just like this that have experienced it, you know, in their family recently. They were cursed, And so I've taken numerous cursings, but to me, I wear that as a badge of honor. I'm like, well, doing some good because they're cursing me and God. We just keep moving. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Well, the idea. But quit. Never, never ended my mind. If you need to quit speaking the word of God to when you can to people around you, your neighbors. Al have you ever said, you know what, this is causing me too much trouble. I think I'm out of here. It never entered my mind. Did it yours?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Nope. Not at all. In fact, I mean, I've had people ask me before. You know, Hannity asked me one time we were doing this radio show. Lisa and I had written our book, and we're very open about our weaknesses and failures in the book. And, of course, this was at the peak popularity of the show. And Hannity, he looked at me, he's like, why would you write this book? I mean, like, people love your family and they respect you and they think you're all great.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And, man, this book has got some stuff in it. And I said, well, Sean, we wrote it because we were rescued. Like, we were in a terrible place. And by God's grace, we found our way out. Yep. And so we know there's people out there experiencing the same thing. So we want to help them. It's about ministry, which is really what this whole book is about.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Sure. And he looked at me. Sean looked at me. I can tell he was like nodding like, yeah, I mean, that's great. But in his eyes, he was like, I don't get it. And he said, you know, there's things I hadn't even told my wife. Yeah. Lisa said, well, I'm glad I'm not married to you, Sean Anady.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And everybody laughed when she said that. And we moved on. But it just reminded me that people that haven't had that, you know, don't understand exactly what grace is. They have a hard time then talking about what grace does for them, whereas other people seem to get that, you know. It reminds me of that... I'm mad at them and I hate them, but I'm confused on why you don't. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:23 It's hard to... It's hard to fathom unless you've had the experience. What good would that do? You're missing the point. Well, that's all... You remember that story in Luke 7 whenever the woman was at Jesus' feet and, you know, she's just broken. And he's, you know, they're watching it. And so is Simon, the Pharisee.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And Simon, you know, he... he's it bothers him like he's like he thinks in his mind he says that this guy knew what kind of woman this was you know he must not be a prophet in other words she's just trash and so he's looking at a scene that jesus described as beautiful and he's mad about it and then jesus tells him a little parable about the you know receiving of the the debt relief and he says you've judged correctly and then he gives them a rebuke for for what he didn't do as a guest you know a host and And then this woman, he says she's been doing it all night. And then he said, the one who is forgiven much will love much.
Starting point is 00:20:22 The one who's forgiven little. Even Jesus was accused of being a drunkard. He hangs around sinners. He bound to be up to no good. He's a bad man. He's down there at the bar down there drinking wine with a bunch of sinners. He's a drunkard. Which Paul's going to, we're going to talk about that when we get over to chapter
Starting point is 00:20:45 later in the chapter too. Jesus said wisdom will be proved right by our actions. Right. Well, read the rest of that text, Dad, because you read the first few verses. Pick it up there in verse 6. Well, it just shows you, you know, as we follow Jesus, there's great endurance in verse three and four there. Troubles, hardships,
Starting point is 00:21:08 distresses, beating. They just beat the fire out of them. Imprisonments, riots, hard work, sleepless nights, hunger, in purity, understanding, patience, and kindness in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love. I think what he's saying is this is impossible to live like this and to take on what the world does to you. Without God's spirit in you, you'll break and run. The power is not there. He does bring up in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love, which is the goal.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And Jace mentioned it, you know, he said, let me give you a verse. Well, he went with 1 Corinthians 13. Well, this is 2nd Corinthians chapter 6. Truthful speech as we go forward in the power of God with weapons, weapons now of righteousness. You're like, weapons of righteousness. And in Ephesians, he alludes to that, right quick. The last part of, we're not wrestling against flesh and blood here.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And he goes on to say, put on the full armor of God. So when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground after you're done everything. So stand, stand firm then with the belt of truth, buckle around your waist. And check this out. With the breastplate, which offers a lot of protection, arrows have been thrown at you. Weapons with the breastplate. righteousness in place man so when he's talking to the Corinthians he words it
Starting point is 00:22:52 weapons of righteousness in the left and the right right hand and left you say hmm it's it's protection breastplate through glory and dishonor bad report and good report sounds like the internet genuine yet regarded as impostors known yet regarded as unknown I just look at the way they treated Jesus when he was on the earth known yet regarded as unknown dying and yet we live on
Starting point is 00:23:23 beaten and yet not killed sorrowful yet always rejoicing poorer yet making many rich the ones who come to Jesus by faith it's their ticket to immortality having nothing which is interesting
Starting point is 00:23:40 so if you say, boy, I've fallen on hard times. I've ended up for nothing around here. I don't even have a place to put my head. Having nothing yet possessing everything. What a statement. Only in Jesus would you make a statement like that. Because most people look around and said, man, these people are hating me.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I'm getting my tail beat, stomp, jump, riots, looting, shooting. I mean, they just charged, charged on. Well, that's the reason I make the point. The time frame when this was written, give it three, 400 years, probably about 400 after that, somewhere along in there. This whole thing collapsed. The entire Roman Empire became a pile of rubble. But they were warning them before it came.
Starting point is 00:24:33 It's kind of like these days, we warn our fellow Americans, better love God, love your neighbor. I know it's tough, but you better exercise that because bad days are fixing to come our way. So I think they... Hey, hang on, Jay. Let's take a break. I think they, you know, he's writing his letter and he's talking about Christ's love compelling you. And the only thing that counts is a new creation.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It's all sounding great. You know, we're standing before God and we be confident at the end. of our life. And then we're Christ's ambassadors as though God were making his appeal through us. I mean, all this is like, this is inspiring, it's great, it's awesome. And then he's like, now look, there's trouble coming, distress, then you may have a beating, imprisonment, riots, hunger, sleepless nights. Well, all of a sudden this ambassador representing
Starting point is 00:25:43 having it just doesn't seem as appealing as it once did and you know that's why he gets to the end after having said all that was very inspirational he said in verse 11 we've spoken freely to you corinthians and open wide our hearts to you which i made reference last podcast that he was gonna he's going after their hearts that that's where the decisions are being made yep he said we are not withholding our affection from you but you are withholding yours from us as a fair exchange i speak as to my children open wide your hearts also so he's trying to get them to humble themselves realize what god has done for them and join what they're doing and by being motivated by grace and love and motivating the cause here but uh i mean i think his his words are very
Starting point is 00:26:41 inspiring and almost you know the way he did it is interesting he starts off talking about all the hardships and troubles then he launches into that verse six you know he just he has sleepless nights hunger then he says impurity when he's like i'm i'm not getting much sleep i'm hungry but i'm also conscious that i'm trying to be pure here um my understanding and patience and kindness in the Holy Spirit. Then he goes to saying that the power is coming from God, which goes back to his other reference about we have it in this jar of clay, this outwardly we're just being tortured, beaten, breaking down,
Starting point is 00:27:29 but God is leading this in the heart through his spirit and what you can't see. And then it's all the opposite things. He also adds that in truthful speech. So when dad was talking about the weapons of righteousness a minute ago, the breastplate is one thing to guard, you know, because it guards our heart. That's what righteousness does. You know, in the sense of physically you get that picture of your physical heart.
Starting point is 00:27:54 But he's talking about something obviously in your mind. But then also truthful speech, which would have to be the reference that Paul used in Feeson 6 of the sword of the spirit. In other words, if you're constant, if you're tweeting out 1st, 1st, 1st Corinthians 13, that's truthful speech that only blesses. people. But if you're cursing people and telling everybody how bad it somebody else is, that's not helpful. That's not, it's not righteous speech. I think that's part of what he means. Yeah, I agree. And I think he's doing this contrast that he introduced when he said we don't look at people from a
Starting point is 00:28:27 worldly point of view because that's the way they're looking at him. That's why they're not opening the hearts to what's going on. They're like, well, you're getting beat. You're getting whoop. I might go to prison. He's like, yeah, but look at the opportunity. And I think that's the biggest thing. Most people, when difficulty comes, it causes bitterness and grief and despair. You see what he's saying. He's saying, look at the opportunity we have here to be ambassadors in the worst. I mean, you can't be any more positive. Plus, by the time you get to verse 14, he makes a startling statement in the context of love God and love your neighbor. Do not be yoked together with unbelievers.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He asked a question, what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? It's like daylight and dark. What fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial, the devil? That's what he means there. What's it's a little bit of, yeah, a vera and a belial, yeah, the evil one, What agreement is there between the temple of God, that's us, and idols, for we are the temple of the living God. God said, I'll live with them, I'll walk among them, I'll be their God, and they'll be my people.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Therefore, come out from them. Don't operate as the world does, and you just look around you. You say, man, our culture is as rough as it was at Corinth. It's the same sins over and over and over. therefore come out from them and be separate. I think this is a tough passage. I mean, when I looked up commentaries and what people think, most people omitted this.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Because I think you got these hardheads who use this in every possible scenario to where, I mean, you just mentioned earlier, I mean, Jesus was hanging out with the riff ruff, and you're like, well, he's getting a bad reputation. What happened to this? Do not be yoked with unbelievers. But I think when you think about the illustration here, you know, I believe this is in reference to when they had two oxen together, yoke together, pulling the whatever. I mean, wherever you're going, you're going together.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Well, if you're with not to compare ourselves to being dumb ox in, but we all as humans have our dumb ox moments. but if you're trying to go be an ambassador and you're goked together with another dumb ox who's like, I ain't doing it. Well, this is going to be hard to plow the field. Yep. If you're literally yoked together and he's saying, I ain't doing it. If you're yoke together too tightly with the world, you'll start acting like it. That's what he's kind of telling them, y'all.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Exactly. You know, he's already made the statement. Remember, the statement's already made that some of you, you know, where was it? It was it in first year? Yeah. Over when he said, do not be misled, bad company corrupts good character. That's in First Corinthians. I think this gets into your inner circle.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I mean, look, I could be wrong. But I think it gets into who you're living life with. Yeah. I mean, we are to be in the world. we share Jesus. You remember the 1st, Corinthians 5 where he had the moment, he's like, I'm not telling you not to associate with people who are sexually immoral. You'd have to leave the world then.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah. But then he got into this, anyone who calls himself a brother. I mean, if you're trying to do life, and that's why when it gets into dating and marriage, because that's why people don't address this, because they're like, well, you can't be married to an unbeliever. But, you know, in 1st, Corinthians 7, he kind of gets into that when you're in the position to when you were called and you have these verses about winning over your unbelieving husband. Where's that 1st Peter 3?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah. But you also have to recognize that if you're going to yoke yourself with someone and you're making a decision, if what's most precious to you is the Lord Jesus in your heart and then you decide to yoke yourself with someone who feels the exact opposite, it's just not going to work out. I mean, not to be judgmental, not to say, well, it can't work, but just think about it rationally. The one you're trying to win, if you're not careful, could win you over it. Well, I agree. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:33:17 That's typically what happens. Let's take a break. That's typically what happens. What's interesting, Jay, and I agree with both of your assessments, and it is difficult for people because, you know, they will apply this to situations and people and relationships. relationships that this was not intended for. That's not why he wrote it, which is why he has studied in context. But it's interesting, for those of us who have been yoked to the world, because I was for a
Starting point is 00:33:48 while, I totally get it. I mean, in other words, you don't have to explain to me what it is. Me too. I get it. I understood what it was like to be with the dumb ox next to me doing stupid things that were ungodly and harmful to everybody. So I think for the people that have been there, they get it and understand. it. You're right. It's misapplication to a lot of other situations that Paul never intended for that. He uses in there as an illustration idolatry, which you think about it is true. If you say I serve Yahweh, I serve God, I serve the living God of the Bible, how can you then say, oh, and I also, just to be safe, I'm also going to serve this God over here because, you know, whatever. I'm going to go down here and sacrifice to this God as well because, you know, you never can be too sure about this.
Starting point is 00:34:36 this, but that's not, how could you do that? You either, God says you either serve me or you don't. Well, I think, yeah, I think he wrote it because, you know, in a couple chapters we're going to get into that the evil one himself masquerades as an angel of light. And so within the church, you can actually be yoked with people who don't love Jesus. And so, but he's also saying, look, we've opened our hearts. why do you were trying to that he's trying to unify in jesus and be ambassadors and they're like saying no and so i think the problem that he ascertained in all this is that they were
Starting point is 00:35:20 yoked with unbelievers even in the church and they were not putting jesus at the center and we know that from first crenthians 15 so when i look at my life you know practically so what does this mean, I love everybody. We're supposed to, even our enemies, we're supposed to love everybody. I have friends. I have acquaintances. I have brothers and sisters in the church. But in my inner circle, there's one prerequisite to be in the inner circle.
Starting point is 00:35:50 You must love Jesus. So that's who I'm yoked with. That's where I'm getting wisdom from in my decision-making process. It doesn't mean I agree with everything. that everybody in my inner circle believes or teaches. But we all agree on that. Yep. So to me, because that's who I'm yoke with,
Starting point is 00:36:12 and I believe that goes back to Jesus picking 12 and the small groups and the ministries in homes and different things like that. You need an inner circle because it's not good to be alone. But your inner circle where you're getting being held accountable and speaking the truth, like you said, I don't want people in my inner circle that won't tell me the truth. Because then you can't recognize pride sometimes. We've had thousands, literally, thousands over the last 40 years of feeds, we call it.
Starting point is 00:36:48 We pick out a, if you want to feed, it's roasted tenderloin. It's, it's, it's, I haven't eaten anything yet today, Phil, so don't get too detailed. It's, it's, it's, uh, it's yesterday. Describe the bark. Yeah, describe the crispy bark. Yesterday, yesterday and for 40 years, yesterday we had crawfish. My nephew, ball up about a bag of crawfish, 25, 30 pounds, brought it down there. This is unusually pain and suffering.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Now that I've said this. Yeah, well, it's a fee. You say, who were the participants in the, in the, did you eat it all? So we ate a bit of it. You say, well, who's we? All the people who were believers were on the premises when we ate the crawfish. You say, as a pattern, you say, if you have someone who's not a believer, he's outnumbered. Because on his right and his left, no matter what kind of feed it is, if you're going to be able to eat at my house,
Starting point is 00:37:54 it's either you're a believer or we're trying to help you be a believer. But if somebody came in, you wouldn't say, well, you can't eat with us. Nope. Because why? I mean, tell them why. I think this is a good point you're making. He's welcome to the food. But we all know that when we get up, we're thanking God.
Starting point is 00:38:15 We start out by speaking when we're just talking about spiritual matters. So he's sitting over there, the unbelievers, listen to that. Well, then we have a meal. Well, he notices that we are thanking God for something as simple as a ice chance. full of crawfish has been boiled up. Well, he said, thank you, Lord, for giving us that right out of your creation. When you made a crawfish, you made a doozy. He is delicious, that crawfish is.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Well, you want the unbeliever to hear that because he says, that idiot thinks that those crowfish came from God. And I'm like, you're beginning to learn on what we're all about. You're learning. So they hear a prayer, which with their buddies, they're not going to hear anything that we love God. We love our neighbor. Help us, Lord, as we eat this, you know, to love you more each day and to help us to love each other. And thanks for the crawfish in the name of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm praying. Amen. The unbeliever, if he's there, it's pretty interesting. A lot of them leave like their shirt tails on fire after they eat the crawfish. You never see them again. But while they're there, you give them a dose of what it's like, the mindset of people. who bear fruit to God, the spirit of bearing fruit, is love for each other and love for God. You want to show them that small amount of time, but you say it's not a bunch of sinners in you
Starting point is 00:39:44 having a meal. It's a bunch of believers. Who are sinners, but they are believers. That's right. Yeah. Was you going to say something, ma'am? No, I was just going to say, Dad, so if you got the opportunity, would you love to lovingly used truthful speech to tell them about Jesus. Have you ever done that before?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Somebody that came down. Thousands of times. I'm talking over here to this person because he's a believer. And discussing spiritual matters, you say, why are you bringing it up in front of an unbeliever over there? I want him to hear this. It's called directional dialogue. I'm talking to a believer.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But an unbeliever is over there saying, hmm, it's like the guy, Jays, when you talk to a group of individuals, one left the premise and said, I've heard enough about this Jesus saying, well, he's hiding in a back room, but he's got his ear to the door. And he's listening to what Jay says saying, but he's hiding because the evil ones in him. Well, when the smoke cleared, Jay said, well, what about it, guys? Anybody want to obey the gospel here tonight? So everybody said, no, no, well, think about it. But somebody comes bursting out of the bedroom back there, and he said, I will. Remember that conversion? story. It's a wonderful conversion
Starting point is 00:41:00 story which proves my point. You try to get the gospel any way you can. Some will either be hiding behind doors, but they're listening and they're hearing what Jason is saying over there or me or somebody else. We're hoping they're listening, but how would you know?
Starting point is 00:41:16 So that night comes and goes, and you go on about your business next day. Here you go again. Trying to get the message to them. Faith comes from hearing the message. The message is heard through the Word of Christ. So we try to get it to them. So let's take our last break.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Well, yeah, and the point is of all that that Dan illustrated is how could you possibly reach people if you're not with people to reach them? I mean, so there's a difference in being yoke to unbelievers and people say, no, we're going to isolate. Because a lot of times Christians want to just completely isolate. You know, we want our churches full of people that think just like we do. do, but Jesus never showed that example. I mean, he seemed to be very comfortable with what the people around him, who they called sinners. Well, right.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And constantly the religious leaders said, well, he's not one of us because he wouldn't be hanging out with those guys. And boy, were they ever right. People that are legalistic, they try to take away your freedom. But I think the proper way to view it is that verse. I can't remember off the top of my head, but it says, do not use your freedom as a cover up for evil. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That doesn't mean you're not free. It said don't use your freedom in Christ. There's no doubt we're free in Christ. He went to a cross so that we could be free. But don't use it as a cover up for evil, which gets back to the verse you read about bad company corrupts morals. But, I mean, I think people make excuses about this kind of thing. But you know, I mean, there's a reason the acts of the sinful nature are obvious.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I mean, it's like, I think if you look at the absurdity, if you look at it in a physical way, if in your inner circle you have somebody who is vehemently by their lifestyle, their speech, where they go, I mean, you can find out, you know, in basically less than 60 seconds when you meet someone. I have a speech going on in Tennessee where you have a home, Nashville, in about one week. So I'll go up there. You say, do you know what this is all about? I mean, what kind of people? No, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:43:35 But to your point, I'm doing it tonight. Yeah. I'm going to a city. I have no idea. But the unbelievers, you say, when you're with them, I don't know who's a believer and who's an unbeliever. When I get done, I point everybody to Jesus, the ones who want to put faith in him will do so. But, Phil, my point is the guy, if he's riding in your truck on the way up there, you know. That's right.
Starting point is 00:43:59 And I think his point is, I mean, to me, it's like to use. as a physical illustration like one of the things I hate to do because we've all spent a lot of time at camps and I love the fact that you share Jesus you get away from society and the phone and all and but then they so they come up with these games and different things and they want to have fun well most of my injuries that have happened in sports happen when we're playing a game for fun like three-legged races and they get you in a toe sack and you hop you know Yeah, I'm past that. Well, yeah, me too. I didn't want to do it in the first place. But my point is when you think about that three-legged race, I mean, if you're, because I remember the worst injury I ever had doing that was the person they put me with because they thought it'd be fun was about a foot and a half shorter than me.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And so we tie our legs together. Of course, I'm a competitor. I want to win. We didn't take two steps and we're rolling around on the ground, you know, and I'm grab my knee. I mean, it was just horrible. But I thought about this verse like that, that if you're, if you're being yoked, you have somebody who is completely not compatible in the Lord, an unbeliever, that that's basically what's going to happen. So, I mean, you can't sugarcoat it and say, oh, it might be okay. It's like all these people that, you know, Al, you've counseled a lot
Starting point is 00:45:27 when they're dating and they're like, well, I know this person that I'm going to marry is not a believer or whatever, but they're going to change. I mean, just through your years of marriage counseling, how many times did that work out? Hardly ever. Hardly ever. It just, so it's not about you're making a judgment or you're saying it can't happen or you're, because this whole section is based on the power of God and the promises of God. You see the power of God in chapter 6, verse 7, and it started off in verse 1.
Starting point is 00:45:57 one, talking about the grace of God. The grace of God, the power of God, and then chapter 7-1, he says, since we have these promises. So none of this is based on us and our effort, and he said the Holy Spirit is leading us, but he also said it's going to be, it's going to be difficult, it's going to be trouble. But then he makes that application, don't be yoked with unbelievered. This is not going to work. if you're trying to access the power of God, the grace of God, and the promises of God. Yoked is pretty well tied to.
Starting point is 00:46:34 That's why I think, thinking about the oxen, it helps you understand this. Because look, this is a controversial section of scripture. And I think a lot of people, a lot of stuff of what I read, I completely disagree. I mean, they had every possible worldly scenario about, well, you can't do that because you'll be yoke with an unbeliever. But that's why when you brought that up about Jesus having that bad reputation, well, the people today in churches, they would say what Jesus did with hanging out with the tax collectors and sinners. They're like, well, that's wrong. You're being yoked with unbelievers.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yep. Well, I know he wasn't being yoked with unbelievers because he never sinned. So whatever he was doing was not what you're saying. That is correct. So I'm glad you brought up the illustration about where we go in these events. I mean, look, I'm going to an event tonight that I'm not charging them anything so it didn't go through the sister. them. So I have no idea what it is. They asked me to do it and I said I would do it. I'm going to share Jesus. I don't know what mine is a week from now. I have no idea. But you get into situations, you know, I mean, I've been to things that were, I mean, worldly, so worldly that, I mean, I knew it was obvious Galatians 519, the event that I'm now part of. This has nothing to do with God.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Al and I did a day. Well, let me just finish my last statement. But I made a point. to let them know immediately that I'm not with this. And to me, that's the speaking the truth. If you get a new environment that is completely worldly and sinful, you got to realize, are they going to influence you or I'm going to influence them? I think you have to draw a line immediately. Well, Al and I had a good description of this. We ended up at a casino.
Starting point is 00:48:21 The liquor was flowing and the rap band was getting after it. and they invited me to speak, but Al, I hate to say it, but we... You shut the party down. You definitely were the party pooper that night. Oh, I guarantee you. The point is you don't want to shut the party down. You just want to take them to a different party. I just said they asked me to speak.
Starting point is 00:48:46 You know, I didn't know. What I loved about it was we weren't intimidated by it, but quickly, and it was for a sponsor, but quickly dad and I realize this is an opportunity tonight for them to hear something they weren't planning on hearing and so you know some probably thought it was really cool and others probably said man that'll be the last one of those I'd go to well that's the last time I've been invited to a casino there that wound it up you're not really a casino guy all right we're at a time I do want to touch on a couple of things in our overtime from that we brought up that we didn't get to so check us out on unashamed overtime Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else,
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