Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 47 | Jase’s Dog BIG’N, Eating Locusts, and John the Baptist

Episode Date: January 22, 2020

Jase’s dog has started getting fired up about going hunting; too bad the season is almost over. John the Baptist and Phil have a lot in common, and eating locusts is biblical!    See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Unachanged What about you? On the right hand side, that's here it's on the right hand side of the Bible. Welcome to our

podcast. We're midstream trying to find a verse. It's where John was in prison and he's doubting. Father Jesus is really who he is. They send word to Jesus. Is it not Matthew 11? Where?

It's Matthew. Look at here. Matthew 1111. Look, you're right. It is on the right hand of the page at the top of the column. Can I read this? I tell you the truth, Matthew 1111. Among those born of women, there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist, which is quite the statement. But then he makes this statement. Yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. That's pretty good. So we're in John chapter one, and we're talking about John the Baptist preparing the way for Jesus. You know, it's interesting about that Matthew text, though, Jace, about John the Baptist is that John, you know, he had been arrested because he had run a foul of, he'd run a foul of the, you know, king and all this, you know, he's basically calling him out for, you know, living with one another living simply well i think what happened so he's a political married

like his brother's wife correct and where's that passage at and so she gets a burner saddle about it and so then they were at a party and one of the daughters he gets arrested yeah john a badgers gets arrested one of the daughters of one of that family group comes out there and dances i guess suggestively. And he basically says, I'll give you anything you want. He was so impressed with the dance. And she said, I'll tell you what, I'll take the head of John the Baptist. But your mom had put her up to it. On a platter. And they didn't want to do it because John was a very popular figure. Obviously, he was the forerunner for Jesus. So it was like, I mean, he's looking, you can imagine this king because he's like, oh my goodness, what have you got me into? But

once he said that, a royal decree, it has to happen. But here's my point. What's interesting, is when you that passage you read in Matthew 11. Whenever John is there, like John the Baptist is like the boldest, you know, one of the boldest people that's ever lived. But he's having a moment.

Like he's like, he's sitting in jail and he's starting to wonder, you know, are we sure this is it? What I love about that is if John the Baptist can have doubts, then that clears me for the times I wonder and aren't as strong as I need

be because you're not going to find a guy stronger than him so he sends his disciples to jesus and that matthew passes and says now are you sure are you sure about that like we're good to go right because he's thinking in the jail cell they're fixing to cut my head off or something bad that's that to me i just want to make sure we're all on the same page and then that's when jesus talks about john the best but isn't that amazing that a man that bold that had a clarity of his whole life and what he was supposed to do from day one Nazarite bound never cut his hair never drank a drop of alcohol

I mean he went through all this I mean he was the he was the top he's a ninja of his era in terms of spiritual you gotta remember he came into his own John chapter 1 but he's own

but they rejected him it was there you gotta remember it's a 400 year quite where God didn't say a word from Malachi to John so or say it this way from Malachi to Jesus 400 years God was silent but the last thing he said through the prophet Malachi see I send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes great for the ones who believed him, that Jesus was who he said he was,

and dreadful for the ones who are not going to believe in him. So you got a prophecy. Malachi said, I'm going to send you Elijah, and he'll turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, or else are come and strike the lamb with a curse. Basically, here comes Jesus. Well, Luke records John, son of Zachary. ride Elizabeth he'll be a joy and delight to you and many will rejoice because of his birth he's touting

john the baptist for he will be great in the side of the lord he's never to take wine or other fermented drink and he'll be filled with the holy spirit from birth many of the people of israel will be will he bring back to the lord their god well it sounds like malachi and he will go on before the Lord in the spirit and power of Elijah. Well, he just told you, Zachari and Elizabeth are going to have a son, and whoever he is, he's going to go in the spirit and power of Elijah to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children. We'll be back to Malachi again, and the disobedient for the wisdom of the righteous to make

ready and people prepared for the Lord. So when John the Baptist comes on the scene, He is the Elijah of Malachi. He's saying Elijah's going to come, and they're like, Elijah, what? Well, they looked up and they said, who in the world is that thing coming out of the desert, you know, robbing beehives and chasing down grasshoppers to make it? So they couldn't get him on food laws because, I mean, his diet was that kind of way out there. But you just think about it.

Well, Lucas and honey, I've always thought that he had, you know, when you see that, locusts and honey as an outdoors person, I thought, okay, I get it. Because the only way you can eat a locust, and I tried it because it was biblical. And I thought, the only way you can make that work is to dip it in some honey. Was he crunchy? Was it one of them big old? Yeah, one of them big, what they call them? Yeah, I like to, I forgot what their official name is.

I mean, I looked at it and I thought, I should not eat this. But this was a rare person because there was never anyone like him except he, and here he comes and Luke recorded that then you go on and say you know the greatest man who ever come out of a woman so I mean he was quite the character John the Baptist was but he did make the point he who's least in the kingdom is greater than him and why do you think he said that I mean Jesus said it and look I mean what how would you apply because that that does seem like a hard concept to understand he was before it came and when it came, it was far greater than anyone ever.

You could have included anyone. You say, before the kingdom came, there was no grace, there was no mercy, there was no Holy Spirit available for all people. Yeah, I think that was his point too. And the things that make, from a human perspective, the things that make men great from a kingdom perspective are not the same thing at all. Oh, that's right. So that's part of what he said.

Anything before grace, you say, it would be. greater for you to be under grace and have God's spirit. Your sins wiped away. You're delivered from Satan from guilt, from law, and from the grave. That makes you, that makes you greater the John McElbathus. I've always thought the perfect picture of that was the one, I think it's in Matthew 19 when the rich young ruler comes along and, you know, everybody's looking at him and like, this guy. And even Jesus says, oh, yeah, he says, keep the law. I've kept him since I was a boy, you know and so the disciples like man look at this guy but he didn't have the heart for i mean to everybody looking he was the greatest but then when jesus questioned him about giving some of his cash he walks

away sad a lot of people i mean that tells you right there i mean and look then you look at loot 19 at zichias little tax collecting you know guy that everybody hated vermin and yet he's like i'm coming to your house today and then he said without being prompt to by Jesus, he said, you know what, I've cheated, I have cheated a lot of people and I'm going to give them four times back what I stole from. That's the difference in the heart. It blows a hole in the argument for the people who would say, well, you know, that was just real unkind of God to allow this guy who had the greatness and power of Elijah, the forerunner of Jesus Christ,

pointed to pave the way for the Savior of the world, and he had to die this horrible death. Well, why would God do such a thing? What they forget is with God the resurrection. I mean, it's like they all were martyred, including John the Baptist. Right. You know, all the apostles, but John, every last one of them died horrible deaths, you know, one after the other, the Apostle Paul and Peter and all of them.

Right. You say they all died for the cause, but they really didn't die. Peter said, I'm fixing to leave here. Set my tent aside in 2nd Peter 1, and he said, and after my departure, I want you all to remember what I'm saying here. I mean, he was looking at physical death. Right. The same thing for John the Baptist and all the rest of them that died for the cause. Right.

We talked about. They live on. We talked about four, because we kind of came into the middle of the story here about John the Baptist. But if you go back to when Jesus was born, in fact, when Mary was pregnant with Jesus, she goes to visit her relative, who happened to be John the Baptist mother. And you remember because she walked in, and so she said, she looks at Mary and she says, the baby in my womb just leapt for joy when you walked up. She took that as a sign that John the Baptist, who she was carrying in her womb,

who was a little bit older, he's, he's like, like already fired up about what's going on. So this is all happening like before they're even born. Think about a group of people that were all going to be liars. They're all going to tell a big lie. And they write down what we are discussing play by play. And you're like, wait just a minute. So a bunch of people just got together and you could add the 5,000 years

going back to Genesis, is 2-14 or whatever it is where the predictions made someone from a woman, the seed of a woman will destroy Satan. Well, now he comes and the forerunner is right before him, John the Baptist, and his life is being told like the baby leaping. You're like, so they all just systematically and methodically dream this tale up? I mean, ow. And the guy looks like a bum.

Yeah. I mean, no offense, he probably looked a lot like you. He's paving the way for the Savior of the world, and you look at him coming, and he's screaming at the top of his lungs, rip hit. And, you know, and he's real nice to his neighbors, as in you brood of vipers,

who told you of the coming rat? Well, I've always said, you know, bunch of snakes. To when I go out and speak, I always like when I'm talking about John the Baptist, I found a picture, obviously there's no picture, John the Baptist,

where somebody, like, 600 years ago, painted what they thought he might look like based on description you just talked about. So I put it up there. Well, it looks a lot like, you know, Phil. Now, this was done 600 years before. I feel better about it after reading about him what he looked like and all. I feel better about myself, if you understand what I'm saying. Well, I've always said, Phil, you're like a cardboard sign and a coffee cup away from just being a guy on the street saying repent.

I love my neighbor enough, and I know John did too. but I pull up a little short. I'm pretty blunt, but I pull up a little short and I don't call my neighbor, you brood of vipers. You're a bunch of snakes. I pull up short of that. I'm like, well, but it did cost your mind on occasion.

Many times. I was a viper myself at one time. I was thinking that would be dad should do that sometimes. Just do the sign that says, I don't want any money. Like go stand at Sam's where there's guys always there. I don't want any money, but here's what you need and just, you know, do the gospel symbols or so. Just, you know, like that.

Yeah, because I mean, you would fit right in. Well, they would look and say, oh, look at that poor man. They said, wait a minute, if they read your side. Yesterday I looked up yesterday. And I think it's worth telling. And I looked, and three different women had brought there either the person they were dating or their husband. One of them was a couple. They were married.

The couple with them, I don't think they were married. The other ones weren't married. But the girls, the women, somehow talked their men into coming to Louisiana, to yours truly seated right here. And they were from Indiana. And where were the other ones from? They were from a different state. Maybe Kentucky?

But they all came, and when they came, they sat down, and they said, we have some visitors want to talk to you. Phil, and I walked over there, and I met them, you know, how y'all doing pretty good. So what's up? And they said, well, we've come down here, and the guy I'm dating, or one of them said, my husband, have decided to make Jesus Lord of his life today. So we came down here, and that's why we're here. well five minutes later someone came by and they said that girl that brought that guy with her that

wants to give his life to the Lord today I said yeah she wants to sing a solo and I said oh I said well get her out back oh fear you're the only man I know that your first response would be well sure yeah I said have you ever seen this I said she wants to sing a solo I said well give her a mic and get her get her going you ever seen the show of when do you want to do this I said right now now. So she gets up. I said, I wave at her. I said, come on over. Can we not discuss it. Have you ever seen the show American Idol? Have you ever seen that show? No, I never, I missed that one. People get up and they try out for singing. Well, most of them are terrible. Well, here's the rest of the story. The girl gets up and somebody hands are a mic and I wave at everybody like,

we got a big crowd, you know, so I wave my hands like that, like, hey, shut her down. We got something going on here so the girl gets up and gets on the mic so everybody is waiting and when she started singing I'm like I looked at her I said where in the world did this woman come from? Good or bad

terrific? Oh I mean I was on the edge of my singing there I was like what are you talking about? She started singing and you could have heard a pin drop What was she singing? Do you remember the song? She was singing a song, you know, I don't listen to like the radio singing much, but Ms. Kay said that's a-radio-sing.

That's a popular song. Was it a spiritual song? I've never heard of it. I never heard of a radio-sing. I think the name of the song was I'm a child of God, but she was saying I'm a child of God. No longer slaves. No longer. Yeah.

That's it. That's it. That's it. I am a child of God. I am a child. You know, I met the people who wrote that song. And I mean, there was an eruption that came out of the brothers and sisters there when she got done with that

and that's the way we kicked off our little Sunday morning. Really? Wow. Well, that might have been. And I got up and preached the gospel to all concerned. I didn't remember their names. They told me, but I forgot them. So I'm up there.

And so I call that group, Indiana. And I look over here and I'd call that group. I said, Kentucky, don't forget this. Indiana, always remember. I was just given the states. By states. Yeah, but anyway, they came up. They all confessed Jesus as Lord and I baptize them.

And on top of the song that the girl and the girls, the entire time, the entire time we were there for a couple of hours, tears just came out of their eyes. I think that was a God orchestrated meeting. That's awesome. If that wasn't a God thing, I will eat my hat. I have to tell you something that's incredible. You're not going to believe this. By the way, somebody, you know, these days, somebody put the thing and went on, went on the Internet. I mean, they've been telling me about it.

It's out there somewhere. It's out there. So there was radio singing in computer land. I have to tell you this because I think this is a God thing. I got all excited one time I was not recently, I'd say within the last couple of years. So I was speaking at Weiss Faroe Road at our church. And I did a lesson about that we're the children. children of God. Well, I came across this song, same song that she sang. Really? Yes. And I thought,

man, this song is awesome. And I was like you. I didn't listen to radio music. It's first time. Radio singing. I went in there and told Missy. Most people call it music. Yeah. That goes of radio. The next morning I told Miss, I was like, you're not going to believe. I heard this song. I'm no longer a slave. I'm a child of God. She's like, yeah, it's, it's, you know, yeah. I said, oh, you've heard that. She's like, yeah, everybody who's a believer has heard that song. I said, well, you're not going to believe what I did. I said, I got so excited because it fit in with my lesson. So I sent them an email, the people who wrote the song.

And she was rolling around. She's like, I mean, you sent them an email? I said, 2 o'clock in the morning. I said, look, I just want you all to know, this song is awesome. And I said, I'm, you know, I kind of played the Duck Dynasty card. I was like, I don't know if you ever heard of our show. And she's like, well, they're not going to believe you. I said, no, I sent a picture that has not been circulated.

on the internet. I was like, this is me. I'm Jace. This is my family. I say, you were in there. Is there a picture of you that hasn't been circled on the internet? Where would you find in a picture? Well, I took it out of my phone and put it on there. So she's like, what was your point? I was like, because I just felt a connection with the words of that song and what I was sharing.

I didn't go to the song. I heard the song after I got the lesson. I was like, perfect. I said, who knows? Maybe we're, you know, doing the same thing. This girl was singing about And I never heard the song. But she was singing about her husband being born again. And she was the precursor to that. And I was just sitting there listening on how this was unfolding.

And I was saying while I was up there, I said, I'm guessing. I said, let's see, Indiana, y'all are here from Indiana. I said, Indiana, I'm just guessing here. But I would say that you've been mean to your woman. You've been up to no good because you've been a child of saying. playing the role of John the Baptist. I said probably come old, hugging drunk. You realize.

John the Baptist. Look, that got his head cut off. Yeah. And I looked over there at the table when I was speaking and saying, I'm just guessing this is what you've been up to. And she was going. And he was sitting there going. You just need to be more blunt.

So look, let me finish my story. A couple weeks later, they email me back, the Helcers, Jonathan and Melissa. That's who wrote that song and performing it. And he's like, you're not going to believe it. this. But he said, I dream. Who wrote the song? The Helsers. H-E-L-S-E-R. Husband and a wife team. Well, you know. So look. Thank you two for writing that song. Look, so he said, I had a dream that I was in your family one time because I sent them the email and said, good job. And I was like,

well, this is getting weird. Because this is going on at two in the morning. Well, no, two weeks They were doing a tour in Europe. So it took them a couple weeks before they answered the email. So I go in there and tell Missy, I'm like, they answer my email. Duh, because she said, that'll never worry. This dumbest thing I've ever heard of my life. I was like, and he had a dream that he was in our family one time. And she said, okay, they're weirdos.

So look, anyway. And his song is being sung at the deal. I'm like, oh, there's more. There's more. There's more. There's more. So then he's like, next. See, this information is coming up.

fast and everybody said reg and god's still working today i said uh yeah better so look a few weeks later he's like hey we're doing a show in shreveport louisiana well let's hook up so they we went over to the concert they got in my vehicle so you've met these people they stayed in my house for three days because hey awesome i mean just warriors spirit-filled warriors for the kingdom and you can tell Both of them, the song lives on in real time. You can tell them if they happened to miss that yesterday, they said it's on the internet. They might, they may find it.

Look, I'll send him a text right now. Send him a text. I'll tell you this, they got another one out. In computer land, that's what we did. I text him, but I don't know. I mean, they're not to text with. In computer land, that's the way. They've got another one out now.

It's called Raise a Hallelujah, and it's awesome. Do yourself a favor and get somebody that worked for you to pull that up. We asked that girl to come back. Ms. Kay, she got involved. She was out there, you know, she's squalling too. So everybody begins to cry, but she goes over to them, you know. I prayed for them before they left that God would protect them from the evil one and that he would start showing signs of love, joy, peace, pace.

I said, keep reminding of that now, remind him. So just to let our audience. It was a great service. Just to let our audience know, so you'll kind of understand our setup here. So Jason and I, Whitefair Rose is our church. We've been there 40 years. That's where dad came when he became a Christian. That's where we came as a family.

I preached there a long time. Now I've started preaching again. Jason, Missy do worship. But that's kind of the mother church of our region, but we did a church plant across the river. And it's called WFRU, which is because it's next to university. So mom and dad have been working over there for about two years.

So when we're describing these services, that's what he's talking about. But mom and dad's deal is really fluid and open. Just like I said, it's just they shift. on a dime. It's kind of laid back. Very laid back. By the way, it's about, what did you say,

that's 60, 40 African-American? There's more African-Americans than white people. Which is really good. Which is great. And that area is an African-American neighborhood around the university. So that's been part of their goal is to do it. In fact, today, Mom is speaking. They got a big Martin Luther King deal there today at the church.

And Mom is the speaker. Did you know that? Martin Luther King would be thrilled to see blacks and whites. because we're still in this rut about black churches and white churches. I'm like, wait a minute here. What about we just all come together and we eat together and worship together, black and white or who anybody else? The only color I'm concerned with is the red blood of Jesus that brings all people under the

same cross. Well, said. Well, First Corinthians 12 says that. There's no male or female. We have to get past this black church and white church saying. I hope somebody records this day because I'm really curious. Mom's been studying all week. and I've been real proud of so Zach and I've been coasters on a few things about MLK.

And one of the things that we talked to her about this, the letter from the Birmingham jail is a powerful. It sure is. That he wrote. Dad actually, Dad did a movie called Torch Bear. By the way, I think you found it Amazon Prime. You need to go check it out because it's really good. I will amen that.

It's all. It was well done. So, Dad, we filmed a scene in Birmingham in the jail cell because they've taken that jail cell. The same cell he was in. That's right. They put it in a museum that's right across the street from the church. They got bombed there. So, Dad is in that jail cell reading that letter. And I mean, like, I just got to chill because, like, we were there and we were doing it.

I mean, it made you chill, didn't it, Dad? Just the whole deal. I said to the brothers yesterday, and I looked at the African Americans there, I said, we ought to have our tail kicked. I said, for the way we treated you folks for all those years. I said, we ought to be horsewhip for that. I said, it was pathetic. I said, I wasn't there.

I said, but the way they treated y'all, I'm astounded that y'all have come together after the way you were treated. I said, so you'd be commended for being forgiving. I said, just remember this. I said, you just forgive them and move on is about all you can do. I have to move forward at some point. Somebody sent me a quote yesterday, I guess, in anticipation of Martin Luther King Day, it was just somebody emailed it to me, but it was awesome.

and it was a quote, and it basically said it was pretty long, so I can't remember the whole thing I should have brought it. But it basically, in his quote, he said he was a preacher of the gospel. The first sentence was, I was a preacher of the gospel before I became a civil rights leader. I will be a preacher of the gospel while I'm a civil rights leader, and I will continue to be a preacher of the gospel all the days of my life. my life. I just thought that was so profound because he made that announcement himself to say, let me just let everybody know what my number one thing is and it's the gospel of Jesus.

I was really moved just to read it. And I think he saw the statement I made, which is numerous texts, Galatians 327, 1st Corinthians 12, that that's what brings people together. Yep. You're thinking about what Jesus does in answering our sin problems and our physical death problem and takes out the classes of people, the color of people, and the sex of people. That's what it does. Yeah. And I always hate it because somebody invariably probably from our audience will send us an email this week. Yeah, but I'm okay.

And then you list all the weaknesses he had or rumors about him or whatever. But you remember, he's a man like any man, but he was fighting for a just cause. I mean, what has happened. Well, I just hate it because you always hear that. But look, that's the same thing they did to dad. I mean, I think the whole controversy dad had a few years ago, the worst thing that happened out of all that in dad's mind, wasn't the biblical stuff or sexuality or that.

It was they call them a racist. Oh, yeah. And we knew that was so untrue. It was so unfair, but that's what they do. I've told people, I was like, you've now accused the most non-racist person, I know, which is my dad, of being a racist. But that's just the world we live in. When people pick aside and they attack you, they're going to use the same, you know, they're like, oh, you live in Louisiana, you're white.

Oh, you must be a racist. Yeah, you grew up in the 40s. We work with our local police department and some of the SWAT team members, I've converted them to Christ. And one of them was there yesterday, security. And he was telling me, he said, let me get this straight and I make sure I have this straight. he said y'all you all you're converted Thomas his first name was Thomas I don't know what his last name is but they said y'all converted that guy Thomas I said yeah he said

I told my fellow SWAT team members guess who was converted and gave his life to Jesus Christ and they said who and he said when I told him his name they said you are kidding they said no he's a child of God over there now they said that guy we keep arresting for you know you know crystal meth and I don't know what all cocaine, you know, just on the street out there, you know, all kinds of mischief. They said, they converted him? And they said, man, what did they tell him?

They were trying to figure out how you could convert someone that they thought was, look, unconvertible, unworthy, and down. Well, and I have to say, Dad, that's what I love about what you and mom were doing. And the plant we have there is, look, it's just like Jesus's work. It's dirty. It's smelly. It's people with a lot of problems. It's some people with a lot of mental problems. I mean, the whole point of what we're talking about,

here's John the Baptist, and Jesus makes that profound statement. And then, you know, he goes on to say, after he said he's the greatest man born of a woman, but he who's the least in the kingdom is greater than him. I mean, Jesus is supplying the power to transform us all. I mean, it's his spirit at work. That's why I would say John the Baptist,

you know why he's the greatest human? because he had a Holy Spirit from birth. Yep. You know, we get it once we, you know, respond to Jesus. Yeah, but within that, here we go, he's supplying the power. We're just along for the ride. From cover to cover, and I went back, and I went through verse after verse after verse, on our attitude toward the poor, Al.

And it was a long study. If everyone would just take the word poor, P-O-O-R, and so, so, so what's God's, what's the MO on poor, reaching out to the poor? I was astounded at how many verses, then the principal is all away from Leviticus, the law of Moses, all the way through Jesus, all the way through. Whatever you do, reach out and help the poor. They're always going to be there, but you reach out and you help them.

If you rely on government programs and all this, nope, the sons and daughters of God and the church should be way, more involved in helping the poor than they currently are. The Catholics are doing a great job with it in a lot of ways, and there's others, Salvation Army, and all these different groups. But everyone who claims Jesus, Christianity at large, should spend way more time reaching out to the poor out. We don't do that enough.

Let me tie that in with our study, because we started off talking about Matthew 11. But when John was in prison in Matthew 11 in verse 4, Jesus told and said, go back and tell, report to John, what you hear and see. And this is the statement he made in verse 5 of chapter 11 and Matthew. The blind received sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the death here, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. Precisely.

And then he made the comment about John the Baptist being the greatest, and then he makes that comment that we've been talking about all morning. But then he made another comment that I wanted to bring up, And he says, what can I compare this generation to? And then he says, for John came neither eating or drinking, you know, because we read where he didn't drink any kind of alcohol or whatever at any time. And he says, and the people say he has a demon. And the same way that you were accused of being a racist.

Yep. There's, you know, when people attack you, that's what they do. They did the same thing, John de Baptist. He brought up the fact that, you know, He didn't care how royal the family was. He said, you are living in sin. And, I mean, it cost him his life. But they're like, well, you have a demon.

You're a demon possess, you wild camel hair wearing. Because they thought, yeah, locust eating scoundry. Yeah, look at you. Put yourself together, man. And then, but Jesus made this statement, which I thought is really interesting. And it's really controversial in the religious world. I don't find it controversial at all. Jesus said it, but he said, you know, John, they say has a demon.

He says, the son of man, referring to himself, came eating and drinking, and they say, here's a glutton and a drunkard and a friend of tax collectors and sinners. But wisdom is proved right by her actions. Because it gives you the impression that Jesus, you know, he went to the parties. It says he came eating and drinking. it's not wrong based on what I read to drink alcohol it's wrong to get drunk

obviously he makes that or be controlled by it yeah he makes that distinction but people that makes people uncomfortable but I didn't I didn't say it Jesus is the one that said it the big picture is it's not in my opinion it's

the government is terrible at helping the poor it's not their goals are different they're saying we want to end poverty it's not the government's job. I'm like Ronald Reagan on this one. It's not the government's job to help the poor. It's really not. The bottom line is the government is the problem. It's our job to reach out to the poor. The difference is I'm over there and we're helping them all the time and many are being converted and they're turning to Jesus. You say. And you've proven one thing. If you feed them, they will come. Yeah. And you say, well, how much money is changing? I'm not getting paid anything. I'm voluntary. I've volunteered. We're putting money in. We need all as Christians volunteer to reach out to our fellow man, whether they're poor or rich.

We just reach out to them and we help them and we love them. You say it would work far better that way than getting some government program coming in. They've spent trillions and there's more poor now. But I like what you do, Phil. That's right. What's your goal? Your goal is for them to go to heaven. Yes.

You can live this life with nothing to go to heaven. I sincerely love them. But you're luring them in with them. with the meal and then you're sharing Jesus but Jesus did the same thing sure he lured him in with the meal you remember john six we're getting there it took about a year for them to say what is i could see in their mind but they finally miss k would walk up with like food cards and say okay y'all get in a line now because i'm fixed to guys just some food cards going what's what's not funny but i was going to say what's funny is when we all got together you know on the last sunday of

the year a couple weeks ago and we had the bus over going to bring them over because they're all home they're all homeless but they wouldn't get on the bus because they thought it was some kind of government trap yeah to put them back to jail last time ever got it got on the bus they were going to the correctional center they would not they would not get on it they wouldn't I learned a valuable lesson once the people who have never been loved once they experienced that and it becomes in their mind they say wait a minute he's giving us we're not having to give them anything

they're reaching out to us once they figured out that we love them sincerely you wouldn't believe the change in a human being when they know someone loves them a lot of them had never been loved to just down and out down and out circumstances it happens

and like you said now you got a current crop of people. Most of them are on the left in our country that are basically saying we want to take everybody that's done well, that's built a business that is wealthy, whatever. We're going to take all that money and we're going to redistribute. We're going to fix this. And so they come in and do these things about trying to make everybody even, Stephen. Futility. Just futilities. Where is the same thing when you challenge the people in control? Remember they asked him about the taxes and how he started dictating policy. He gave him to and a lot like Phil does.

And that's eventually probably why he was in jail. And then he had made so many people with power bitter that it eventually cost him. We sprang one from jail here three or four months ago. And he was saying, he told Ms. Kay, he said, who, he showed up next Sunday. He was there with us, you know. You didn't break him out of jail. No, we had to pay. Okay.

We paid the money. I just want to clarify because you said we sprung him. I don't know. How much is it to get him out? When we found out, we didn't know when he was in jail. When we found out he was in jail, you know, Miss Kay got on with a DA and how much I owe you. So she pays and springs him. And the brother that we sprang from the jail, he came in there saying,

who, I thought y'all forgot me. He said, about three weeks in the slammer, and he said, I thought y'all forgot me. I said, no, we didn't forget you. We just couldn't track you down, man. You never know. Pretty cool story. work here. He's still there, by the way. Not in jail. He's still

with the brothers there, you know. So I have an opinion, and this is so it's not, this is not Bible. This is Al's opinion. You don't find the second opinions in the Bible. But this idea about the spirit of Elijah, it seems to be that God brings it out generationally. You'll see it throughout

the Old Testament, especially when you had a lot of prophecy. But then you saw it definitely here, as you said. Malachi points, you go to John 1. He said, I'm not Elijah, but certainly that spirit that Malachi talked about was there. A lot of people say, well, he was Elijah reincarnated. Right. But Elijah never died. That's right. Which is why a lot of people thought it might have been him. He just showed up as John. Well, but I think he just meant in the same type of spirit. So that's my, so here's my opinion. My opinion is that from time to time, that

that spirit of Elijah, that person that sees everything in black and white, and has a, a prophetic voice will come along throughout history. I think it still happens today. I think that's what dad has. I think he has a spirit of Elijah. I don't think there's any, because, I mean, look, I could be totally wrong. I mean, it may be nothing. It may just be filled being filled.

I mean, to me, I'm comparing it like I'm going to the verse that said, I think we're all in the spirit of Elijah once you get the Holy Spirit of God. Who in America? That's just what I'm saying. Yeah, the verse says he who's in the least of the kingdom is great. But I'm saying, I'm saying who in America, if you put a picture of their face on TV or anywhere else, would say, now that guy there, and then they talk about it. I'm saying that is unique in that because he's seen as that.

Well, it's because Phil does. And he doesn't see himself anything great. Don't be in the shoes with Elijah. He was far greater man than I ever will be, but I'm just saying. Well, look, that's what I'm saying. But I'm saying, Phil is not politically correct because he lives on the river. If you take an individual who comes to Jesus. Yeah.

And you just put him in an isolated wilderness for about 30, 40 years. He comes out looking like Phil and talking like John the Baptist because they're. I'm saying where is there another one? Because I'm looking. I'm not finding him. I'm bad for barbershops. Yeah. Bad news for barbershops.

There's no filter. Well, because you see it the way. Then you have a book called Unfiltered. It was a very accurate description. description of P-H-I-L unfiltered. I think it. Look, if there's no grace, Jesus came, John 1 that we've covered this, Jesus came full of grace and truth. I was fixed to say the same verse.

Now look. There's a balance. There'd been a dry spell from Genesis all the way to this time frame. A dry spell, a long drought, where there was no grace. The grace of God. I mean, look, you can be forgiven. You don't have to be perfect like keep every command that God has given. There was never any sacrifice for them.

And all of a sudden, here comes the ultimate sacrifice, God himself, in a human body, Jesus. And he delivers mankind from their sins, never to, up there at the right hand of God, constantly mediating for them to keep them cleansed. They're full of God's spirit. and you say, that was a long time in coming, well, you just think about being inserted into that. Well, you would have to be a John the Baptist type to get their attention.

Sin, they're so steeped in sin, the whole human race. The pastor yesterday that spoke, Mike, because neither one of y'all were there, that's the verse he talked about. And he was like, in his opinion, he said the church, you know, 40 years ago, they would holler truth and whisper grace.

And he said, now 40 years later, of course, this was his opinion. He said, I feel like they, in our politically correct world, they holler grace and whisper truth, which I thought was a pretty good point. And I've always viewed Phil to answer your question about in that spirit because John the Baptist seemed to holler truth and whisper grace. Of course, he didn't, Jesus had died and buried.

Yeah, it wasn't under. that system. And so in that light, I will agree with you. I think for the most of us, we should try to have a balance there because we all are under grace. But I do think Jesus's point was that it's not, you know, when he said, I am the truth. He still keeps the personal being of what we have in him. If you look at how Jesus handled situations, well, we just read in Matthew Levin, a lot of things he did was very unorthodox, which would make religious people uncomfortable. I mean, when's the last time you went to a bar to, you know, share Jesus?

But he was going to party-type atmospheres and was sharing the good news of his father in those scenarios. Or that text wouldn't have been in there in Matthew 11th. Not only that, the same apostle that we're reading from, John, the book of John, he went on to say in 1 John 3, verse 10, it's real simple. Watch. and I tend to, I tend to, what would I say, hammer this. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are.

You're like two groups of people on planet earth. The children of God and the children of the devil. So when we say, look, Jesus is Lord, you have to prove that on their baptism day. We say, you have to prove that. Paul said, I preached everywhere they should repent and prove their repentance by their deeds. You say, it has to be a change of life here. Repentance means you prove it. Anyone, here's how you can tell who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are.

Anyone, this is complex, anyone who does not do what is right, is not a child of God, neither is anyone who does not love his brother. You say, so you mean if you got this thing down to when a person says, Jesus is Lord, from that point on, everywhere he is, he makes sure he makes every effort to do what is right and love his brother. How hard could it be for someone to say, good night, I can do that. I can attempt to do that. And when you fail at it, he's there to not count, not count, you have grace.

Grace and truth. Grace and truth. That's right. If you look at it, Al, it's the greatest deal of mankind has ever gotten. But it goes back to what Jesus said. Wisdom is proved right by her actions. Yeah. So, we're out of time.

Ooh, that was quick. We never even got to where we were going to talk about it. No, no, I don't say. So here's my tease for the next podcast because we're in John. So that's the beautiful thing about it. But we haven't even talked about the most important thing John the Baptist did and why he really was here to begin with. So we're going to do that next time.

So there's your tease. We hope you're reading the book of John. I got to at least say something, J.S. before we signed off, because last time we made a prediction about the national championship game that now has come and gone.

So you want to glow it a bit? I want to glow it a bit. I've got my, you see my hat here? So you see what that? Oh, is that the even Jesus came riding on a burrow? No. Oh, but that's pretty good.

I hadn't thought about that. Thank you. And our president was there, and the stadium, they were chanting. USA. I heard that. Trump was, he was quite popular at the next shift. I think he became an LSU fan over this.

I think he didn't. He said, he said coach Ogeron, he was like, I thought he had laryngitis when I first met him. He said, but he's some guy. So this is the goat, borough, greatest of all time. Oh, I thought it was a burrow. That's a goat. So, you know, but most time you think about a goat in sports has been a negative. Burrow greatest of all time.

Now we can say it. He won the National Championship Pais and blah, blah, blah, blah. So I just wanted to say. But congratulations. We add that in. Jason, I were right. We said double digits. We were both right.

Dad said Clemson would be hard to beat. He was right. I didn't say LSU was not going to win. Not really. I said. We cut a hong about two more touchdowns on there if we were one of the team. But LSU is behind 16 to nothing or something going in. 17 to 7.

It was never 16 to 9. Yeah. Clemson got out ahead of them. They were head by 10. You said 16 to nothing. A head by 10? Yeah, 17 to 7. 17.

up, excuse me. So, anyway, anyway, we got to go. But I'll sign it off with this. Louisiana is feeling. We are so glad you're watching and listening to the Unashamed podcast. Be sure to like us on Facebook, subscribe on YouTube and iTunes. That's going to keep you up today with all the new episodes. And it's also going to let other people find out about our podcast. So keep spreading the word and watching and listening to Unashamed with Phil Robertson.