Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 475 | Phil Unveils His Hidden Vault & Why Jase Got Off the Internet
Episode Date: May 9, 2022Willie finds out why his mayhaw trees won't grow, and Phil shares his vast knowledge of the land with Jase and Al. Jase discovers his dad has a hidden vault of jellies somewhere on the property, and P...hil tells a story about an old man who was a farmer. Jase explains why he decided to get off of the internet, and Phil provides some good tips for living life with grace and peace. And Al discusses becoming less dogmatic about your differences as you grow in love for your fellow man. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed. What about you?
Well, when May Hall season comes along, it comes along in May. May Hall.
Hall was a tree. Some, a lot of hall trees, but there are a certain variety of a hall tree.
They have little red pieces of fruit like a little crab apple hanging on them.
So I planted some in the yard. We planted them all over the place where we duck hunt.
I think planting 50 of them and none of them have ever produced.
If there's a cedar tree.
Cedar tree.
And in your line of vision.
If there's a cedar tree across in your line of vision, if you plant mayhaw trees, they will not produce a mayhaw.
Whatever.
Some biologists told them, David, you can see a cedar tree.
And there's cedar trees all over.
Is this the verse do not be yoked with unbelievers?
It would be a good thing.
that no one knows why, but if a cedar tree is in eyesight, the mayhaw trees will not bat.
This actually goes with what we were talking about last time.
In the Matthew 13, there's no fruit.
That's right.
You're in the wrong pasture.
That's right.
Because, you know, most people...
Willie said it was embarrassing because when he drove down here, where I planted in lower country,
I'm in the flood zone.
Because mayhaw trees, I noticed when I was a boy,
Mayhaw trees always grew the best on the edges of the swamp.
Of the swamp.
In other words, some years they're falling in the water, which is a pretty good thing because we have little nets.
They're easy to pick up.
Easy to pick up the nets.
I remember that.
I remember that, Jason, when we were kids.
But now we don't have a backwater this year.
A little harder to pick up.
We bush hog underneath them before they start to fall.
We bush hog so the grass won't be.
In other words, you've got grass they're growing.
It's like a prairie-type region that floods.
And the grass gets up there by May, it's about a foot tall.
Well, when Mayhauls fall down...
You ain't hard to get them out of the grass.
Can't find them.
Guess what else hides in the grass?
Mayhall picking is fun and jelly is great until the cotton mouth shows up.
Because the cotton mouse usually hang out.
You have to be aware because you're on your hands and knees.
That's why another reason I bush hog it, because if the wheat,
weeds are this high, you can't see that old Congo all coil up and out in weeds.
Yeah.
So you'd either just straddle them.
So he's waiting on something to come along and eat the mayhaw.
That's right.
This is the circle of life that takes place around the ma'haw.
So you have death on the ground, but life in the tree.
That could be sad.
And now I've come up with a system that's pretty good because y'all are considered you're within the zone of free mayhaw jelly.
You come in the family zone.
Yeah, how about a little bit?
May I'll Jail.
I said.
I'm going to go pick some up after this is over.
But I have my own out of sight in an undisclosed location.
I'm going to make sure that I have enough to do me.
So you're saying there's a Mayhall vault somewhere on the property.
You think back in the day.
But that's unknown to any of y'all.
Do you think back in the day, we're talking 1800s that jelly was actually currency?
I just wonder about
I've often asked myself
when they come across here
the pioneers that some in May
would look over there
and when they'd get these swampy areas
they'd say I wonder, wait a minute
it's just like a little apple baby
either that or maybe they brought them
with them and planted them
and they just took up
but it is kind of interesting that
their only
Mayhaw trees only grow
in some of the southern
reaches, the
half of the meaning.
Very little.
By the time you get to Missouri, nope.
And almost everywhere I go, they've never heard of a mayo.
That's right.
You almost have to be from Louisiana, Mississippi, or East Texas.
It's a wild fruit that grows in the backwater areas of the south.
Yeah, and mainly Louisiana.
Louisiana, I would say number one.
Yeah, because we have the most water.
But it's really interesting that there's the slow trees.
You know, we know they're in like Scotland and you hear it slow gin.
By the way, so they definitely brought those over.
The slow trees, I planted them a decade ago, and I've been watching them for a decade.
This year, when I drove by in last of February, going into March, I looked out there and I said, man, they had all bloomed.
I hadn't seen blooms on them.
Ten years.
Not once.
That's what you sent for Mayhouse, too.
So I walked over there.
I planted them up there where Tony and Phyllis are staying in the, and the bruce.
are staying in the back part over there in the woods.
I planted one, two, three, four, five.
Slow trees, slow.
So the artist's not spelled S-L-O-W.
It's S-L-O-E, I think.
S-L-O-E, slow gin, slow jelly.
But anyway, I saw the blooms,
but then I hadn't checked it after the blooms fell off, you know.
But the artist who lives,
they're telling me yesterday he said he said you know those slow trees you planted you won't let us
go around them with the lawn boy you were being careful with them and they were like small so we're
talking about the bawa has no rules but your fruit trees have rules right yeah so when he told me he said
it's full he said uh-oh a little bit he said what color there need to be i said we can't harvest them
till august right i said they don't get right you better go
That's why I'd call it slow.
It's slow.
I thought when they said you eat the jelly that it puts everything in slow motion.
Probably could.
But I know this.
It has a wonderful flavor.
That's when you drink the gym.
Second only in the jelly making, second only to Mayha.
All right.
So I got a contestant to crack into that top two.
So, and I got a man, our old pal, my old pal, Dwight from down in Palestine, Texas.
Uncle Tommy used to bring us what he called Texas wild grapes.
The woods in Louisiana, North Louisiana, used to be full of wild grapes when we were boys.
Yeah, not musketine because people are going to see me...
Stay on the year, 75 years later, you know, I was back when I was 8, 9, 10, 11,
of 12 along in there, we'd go out in the woods and we picked the grapes.
They're wild dark purple.
Oh, wild grapes.
Delicious.
But there are no longer any wild grapes here.
So what happened?
What happened?
What happened?
It's timber companies.
Cut them over and run open with machinery.
Obliterate them, plant pine trees.
There goes you slow.
They're gone.
So they're in East Texas still.
So they're in East Texas still.
And so Uncle Tommy, when he would come visit a front, he would bring a little bucket.
That is correct.
And Dad would make jelly.
And I say, I mean, this is almost sacrilegious in this context of conversation,
but I like it better than Mayo.
It moved to number one for me.
Now, you could say,
I could see it's kind of like a crop in a eye it's very good and look when you put it on your
biscuit days it's such it's so purple that it stains the biscuit like if you if you took it off
the biscuit would would be purple just for it's that deep purple but it has you say I like my
biscuit stained stained when I was four or five years old I would go out for that and the children
you know my dad would say okay yeah say there's someone right over there we'd go over there
We'd look for them.
We got to where we knew where they grew, you know.
The big woods, you know, the woods hadn't been cut over at all.
All destroyed, you know, when the timber industry.
But anyway, we'd pick those grapes, and boy, them all would make the jelly, you know.
So Dwight has promised me a bucket of Texas wild grapes, and I said, I want to get them to dad.
We'll make some.
We'll make some, because that's the jelly I really like.
It's delicious.
So we have Slows, Mayhall, and grapes, wild grapes.
If we want blackberries or dewberries, they're there.
Some years I make them, but they don't go as fast.
There's still muskidines in our woods.
Do you ever see that?
A lot of muskidines.
I got some left from last year.
It has a flavor I don't care for.
It's kind of a, I don't know, aftertaste or something.
It's good.
I mean, it's sweet.
It's a real sweet fruit, but I just don't care for it.
You like musketine?
Yeah, I love it.
Jelly making is a lot of hard work, and there's an art to it.
And, you know, I, of all people, I'm sitting there showing the younger generation how to make.
Which I love that.
Phyllis and him.
She came up there, you know, say, okay, tell me exactly what to do.
And I sat down there.
I said, all right, put your juice in there.
I said, in this recipe, it's four cups of juice, five cups of sugar.
I said, so get your juice over there.
I said, don't let it run over.
I said, make it exactly because you're going to pour up three.
paints, makes three paints at a time. If you get too much, if you don't merge it correctly,
you got too much and you say, whoop, which goes against every bit of what you usually do.
That's right. Most of time when you give me a recipe, Phil, I'll throw a little...
It's in the neighborhood. Throw that in there. Throw some of that. Jelly making is very precise.
Yesterday, I forgot the sugar in one of the batches, and that was, I bombed out on that one.
But sugar-free, Phil.
Oh, yeah, sugar-free.
I just thought of a fan email.
But it didn't set up, so I thought, and I was looking around,
I said, where did I go wrong?
And Dan said, well, you did, your sugar's over there.
You didn't put the sugar in.
I said, uh-oh.
Now, I tried to redo it and go back through it again with those two jars.
I would like to try it without the sugar just to see what it is.
I've got some.
It's just kind of tart.
I put a little sugar and then reworked it, but it didn't set up.
Like jelly, it sets up and it's the perfect consistent.
It didn't set up.
So.
So it's, it's a Mayhall sauce.
I said, that's what I'll tell them.
I'll tell them I did it on purpose.
Actually, a Mayhaaw sauce, like on some ice cream or something would be delicious.
Oh, yeah.
It would be delicious.
So, Dad, so someone just said.
I'll give you one, though.
You try.
I'll chat.
So someone just sent me a note.
They were telling me why they love our podcast.
And apparently I wasn't on the episode because they said Zach was on it and I was gone.
But where you did like, they said, they had it down to the minute, 27 minutes.
Dad gave the jumbalai recipe on the podcast.
Yeah, I remember.
So they had to listen to it twice to get it all down.
But that reminded me that a woman, one of our listeners, I think her name was Carol, sent me a note a while back.
She had listened to that and wrote it all down and made the jumbalai.
So she sends me a note and says, I tried it, but my rice was crunchy.
My rice didn't get done.
Not enough fluid.
So she said, what did I do wrong?
I said, I don't cook it.
So I don't know.
So what did she do wrong?
Not enough fluid in there.
you've got to guess at the amount of fluid, and you have to have twice the amount of fluid that you do do rice.
In other words, four cups of rice, you have to have eight cups roughly of fluid.
Okay.
She had a not, she didn't have enough.
She had probably six.
Well, there weren't her fluid, but it wasn't enough fluid to get inside the rice and make it.
So it was crunchy.
It was crunchy.
So there you go, Carol.
Sorry, I never emailed you back because I didn't know the answer.
Just remember, for every cup of rice, there's two cups of rice.
there's two cups of fluid.
You can get it for a jam blithe real easily with a...
Chicken broth.
A can of a...
Chicken broth.
Chicken broth.
You just pour chicken broth and you got it.
So Phyllis is learning how to make the jelly.
Is this her first year or second year of observation?
Last year we just got her on her hands and knees and her husband and just went through...
They were just labor last year.
Labor.
This year, all right, I said, all right, the kitchen.
He told me she thinks she can make it without you, but I have my doubts.
I think she can make it.
Okay.
Because I watched her and I said, yeah.
I told her, I said, somebody needs to carry the tradition on, so I'm glad she's going.
You put the juice, the shir gel, a little pat of butter, so it don't foam so much.
You can pour it over in the jar is easier.
And you put a little dash.
You have the box of shir gel.
You have a little pat of butter, just a little bit of butter.
It keeps it from foaming.
Well, the problem is most people.
There's a series of events you do.
You bring it to a ball.
You put the sugar in.
You bring it back to a ball.
As soon as it boils, wait 60 seconds on the nose.
And it goes around 60 seconds.
He's like, good to go.
Sit it on the side of a table.
You'll watch it, and the foam will dissipate quite rapidly.
Then you put three jars at a time and take a little spoon and take that foam off the top.
For those of you listening, you're missing.
show here. Mainly for presentation. This is a jelly cooking show here today. So look, by the way,
so those of you who are subscribers on Blaze, all the episodes of Dad's old show, former show,
in the woods with Phil, he does all this on camera. So if you're really interested in jelly making,
you can watch that episode. But you know what the real problem is that? Fresh jelly out of the woods.
Oh, it's fantastic. It puts all this bought jelly to shame. But unfortunately, in modern day America,
Let's face it, most people aren't going to do everything you just described to get a jar of jelly.
Running out of jellymakers.
We were running out of, they say, well, that doesn't seem very manly.
Well, there's times when it comes to things like jelly making, you want the jelly or not.
I don't care what sex you are.
Let's get the jelly out here.
I don't see it as a gender issue.
A lot of people are saying that.
Maybe your generation.
There's only 17 people in the world that's actually doing that.
There's a few more than you think.
The Sherchell industry, you go up.
there well we can't find sugar gel well next thing you know you go up there and you can't find sugar
because we use you know a lot of sugar that's more about supply chain yeah let's take a break
no but I love it I love that the idea of generational learning things that pass on because we
when we were kids it was granny and Paul doing all that and we were the labor for us to get the fruit
now you're doing it and Phyllis is learning how and then you know Melissa you know I like
I ran up on an old man
and I love it, old guy, but he got killed in an accident.
But I asked him, I said, why did you plant 40 acres of mayhaws?
I said, you know, that's a lot of mayhaw trees, 40 acres.
And he said, I was just trying to make the world a little sweeter.
I said, George Franklin was his name.
George, he got three boys, good guys.
I told him, I said, so are they out here on his property here?
Oh, yeah, they're next to us.
Okay.
And they planted, he planted some.
Yeah.
And when times are hard, I'll call them up,
and look, these mayhawls are not producing this year.
Can I get a few off them trees on y'all?
That's not the 40 acre.
That's on 30 miles away.
But he did plant about 10 Mayhall trees.
He built a little lake.
And they're usually loaded.
But I just, from time to time, I call them up.
I ask them, okay, if I get me a few.
Good neighbors.
Yeah, they all in all, well, that thing, get them.
Yeah.
But they don't pick, they don't get them.
He's the one that told me, said, I'll tell you what, I've been watching you.
I said, he said, we got land right next to each other.
He said, I've never seen you over on my place, not once.
And he said, I got to looking for tracks maybe where you came over here and would look
around on my property.
He said, no tracks.
He said, you've never been on my property.
And my fence line comes up to yours.
He said, I've never seen any sign of you.
I said, I've never been there, George.
He said, how come?
I said, because you want it.
I don't.
It's your land.
If I go over there, I'll ask you permission.
I said, but I'm good.
So he said, huh.
He said, you know, a lot of people breaking in, you know, looking at, you know, trying to keep them out.
He said, but you, he said, you're waiting on me to give you permission to go over there.
That's right.
He said, well, why don't you go on over there?
And I said, well, I don't have a key to your gate.
I don't need it.
I said, I've got enough land of my own.
So after about six more months, he came up at one day, said, tell you what, I've got the
couple of keys to my gates.
Go on in there.
I said, well, I'm not going in there unless you're with me.
He said, that's what I want you to do, ride around with me.
So he was perplexed because everybody tearing down his fences and all that, but he run up
on me, and I said, no.
Well, somebody put that.
It's your property, and I respect that.
Somebody instilled that in you, because you instilled in us.
Do not steal and do not go on other people's.
property. That was one of the
lessons of our... Remember it, Jace?
I mean, that was well
drilled, I guess.
I remember it well. Don't steal stuff from
other people. He's got a duck all over
there, but if we go in there every year,
old Jace or somebody call him,
said, look, it's season ends on Saturday.
He said, what about, y'all and I, y'all
going to hunt them ducks over there? You want
to us to spook them out of there.
But we ask him, they say,
and I are gone in there.
You know, there's a story
from way back when we were
probably about just late teens, I guess.
And Billy Red shot a Mount of Drake.
He shot him from the river, but he fell over on Franklin's property.
But George happened to be over there.
So Billy pulled his boat up, and Jeff was with him.
Jet was a little bitty kid.
And they walked over there to pick up that Mount of Drake.
No, Franklin met him.
And he's like, what are you all doing?
And Bill said, I just shot that duck from the river.
And he said, yeah, but he's on my property now.
And he was like, and so are you.
And you're not, you know, you're not welcome here.
And so, and then, but, of course, George had a gun because everybody does.
And Bill did too.
But so Bill does, you know, walk back, shoulder slumped to the, to the boat.
Yeah.
Frankly got his, but he didn't, he didn't, that dog didn't hunt with him.
That's better to ask for permission.
That's exactly right.
It's a, it's a poaching issue.
So I have to, you know, I have to admit, we poached a little bit when I was a kid just because I didn't know a lot better,
but I didn't really understand properly.
You don't do it now with cameras and guns.
No, it's exactly right.
Nor should we.
So we're in Colossians.
We kind of cranked up our intro on the last podcast.
In the overtime, I'll mention that we talked about that a lot of the languaging that Paul used in Ephesians and First St.
Corinthians were also used in Colossians.
It made sense because if you were writing letters to churches, you're going to have some of the same themes.
In the Ephesians, he kind of focused in on the,
church being the body of Christ. Colossians, as Jay's brought up last podcast, it's really about
Christ being supreme and him being the head of the church and the reasons why. So that seems to
be what he's really focusing on here. I mean, he says that in 18, 118, he says he is, after he gives
these other, at least a dozen qualities that separates Jesus from any other being, he is the head
of the body, the church, which is us. Right. He is the beginning and the firstborn.
from among the dead,
which implies more
the dead,
so that in everything,
in everything,
he might have the supremacy.
Yeah.
I mean,
the highest thing we have in the land
is the Supreme Court,
but if you're,
if you're coming back from the dead
and you're holding things together,
as in atoms and molecules,
I would think he means by that.
Yeah.
No government.
You are the supreme being.
No government in and of itself, none.
Even a constitutional republic, what we have, which is the best.
Yeah.
But it can't give you grace and peace to you from God our Father.
Verse 2.
To the holy, no sins counted against them.
None.
Faithful, brothers, Christ, kind of a lifestyle.
Grace and peace to you from God our Father.
that's pretty cool yeah only only comes from him and jays to your point he's laying a little
foundation for him so to your point you always like so the first their identity first one too
that dad just read grace in peace is how he opens the book and if you turn over it look at the last
verse i paul writing this greeting in my own hand remember my chains grace be with you so he he begins
identity with grace yep which is which he does a lot just like every other letter that's right that's
How do you miss grace?
Wouldn't you think that would be the most important?
I would have a church.
The gospel, which he goes down, grace, he gives it and peace where you get it from.
In the word of truth, faith comes from hearing the message, word of truth.
It's not long.
It's not drawn out.
In fact, you learned it from Epaphras, who is a faithful member of Christ in our half,
and also told us you love.
Epaphras.
since the day
just as it has been doing
among you, the gospel is producing
fruit, reminds me of the mayhaws
and growing, which
has been doing among you. And look,
you know it was a short
and to the point message because
he said, since the day
you heard it. So it wasn't
a long, drawn out, intensive
Bible study. Nope.
He just presented the gospel to them.
They responded by faith.
That's covered over in the chapter.
2 on when you're spiritually circumcised and when your sins are canceled.
All of that is built on those first few things.
If you look in the epistles, that's Ephesians, Philippians.
You go down three verses.
Thank God for every time I remember you.
I just turned back to the chapter before, Philippians.
Always pray for you joy because of your partnership in the gospel.
verse 7.
I'm in chains defending and confirming the gospel.
Verse 13.
I'm here to serve to advance the gospel.
That's one, two, three.
Number four, verse 16, chapter one, I'm here for the defense of the gospel.
Verse 18, the important thing is in every way whether motives of Christ,
Christ is preached.
Because of this, I rejoice.
Verse 27, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel.
one, two, three, four, five, six.
Here's seven.
Contending as one man for the faith of the gospel.
That's the point.
So look, if you went back to another one, you're just moving backwards.
Ephesians right off the bat.
He's blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing.
He, in love he predestined us, verse seven, through his blood, the forgiveness of sin.
Verse 13.
You also were included in Christ.
He's given you when.
When you heard the word of church.
truth, where the word of truth is what he said in Colossians, the gospel of your salvation.
My point is, anybody who says, I don't know where the scriptures are.
You say, you don't know where the scriptures are.
Read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Jesus died with bearing raised from the dead.
He said he would, and he did do that.
It's covered.
You get to the book of Acts.
Peter preaches it.
You get to the Romans.
Paul set apart for the gospel.
You get to Philippians.
You get to Galatians.
I can't believe you're deserting and leaving the God.
gospel. You're preaching another gospel. You have to be circumcised. Are you all crazy? Then you get
to Colossians. You say, if someone says, I can't find the virtues, I'm thinking a fifth grader
could look at the openings, all the epistles beginning from the gospels, and just look at it and say,
how in the world could you miss all these verses? It's all saying the same thing over and over and over and over.
And it's interesting. Let's take a break.
By the way, why would he do that?
What do you think, Jay's?
He goes over the same road a lot.
So maybe he doesn't want us to miss it.
So the linguists say the Bible is basically written at a fifth grade level of understanding.
So once you get about there, you should be able to get the grasp.
Someone says, what are the scriptures?
I tell them, just read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
When Jesus showed up, the kingdom is near.
Just read that what he said he would do.
what he did do, what he will do, where he is.
It wouldn't matter if I think they miss it because it's,
if they don't think he's there or he's here,
then you could tell somebody, well, he died he was buried and raised.
But if they think, well, he's not there, then it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
Because when you're just reading Colossians, look how many times he says,
he is.
I mean, he says, or he has, in verse 12, he has qualified you to share in the inheritance.
Verse 13.
He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness.
Verse 15.
He is the image of the invisible God.
I mean, I don't have this written down.
I'm just going down.
Right above there in whom we have redemption.
Yeah, 17, he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
That's a present.
He's before all things, and in him all things hold together presently.
Yeah.
And he is the head of the body.
Present tense.
By the way, that magnetic field he put on planet Earth, you could say there all things hold together, one second bounce, and it all leaves.
and it all leaves.
I mean, that's how tenuous we are, Jase.
Yeah.
Well, you look at verse chapter 2 and verse 13, the second part, it says,
He forgave us all our sins.
He canceled the written code.
So when you get to chapter 3, it says,
when he appears, verse 4, when Christ appears,
then you also will appear with Him in glory.
When you look at chapter 3, this is off the top of my head.
Verse 22, whatever you do, work at it with all your heart,
as working for the Lord, since you know that you'll receive an inheritance from the Lord.
It is the Lord Christ you are serving.
I mean, my point is it's a reflection, what he did for us,
Matthew, Martin, Luke, and John, all stories end the same way.
His death is breath and resurrection.
But it is a living being who is still relevant and still aware of what's going on.
He's going to appear.
It's your identity.
It's your position.
He's holding things together.
So then when you read, when you throw in something like chapter one that he's actually in you,
I mean, now it is.
getting hard to miss.
You're a good tree, so you need to bear good fruit.
Mayhaw's would be one way of looking at it, saying, hmm.
But what I'm saying is the only way to miss that would be to not acknowledge that this is a person.
That's right.
If you just looked at it as a factual thing, something you were trying to pass a test on,
I think you could possibly miss it.
Or to get into trying to make all of the.
Bible agreeable within your setting well you would miss the fact that his whole point in
Colossians is to give the image of the invisible God now there was a lot of different things
going on back there a couple thousand years ago they were worshiping angels and they were
I mean they had a you know chapter 2 in verse 9 says that there was a a hollow and deceptive
philosophy because he says see to her that no one takes you captive through hollow and
deceptive philosophy which is based on human tradition and the basic principles of the world so
they have that going on Charles Darwin well I don't know about that this is back then this was
way before that but certainly that's that's the idea that came from that because 2 10 he says don't
let anybody judge you on a new moon celebration or religious festival or a Sabbath
day. Now, what, what's he talking about there?
Evidently, it's it. In verse 10, chapter 2, therefore do not let anyone judge you by what
you eat or drink with regard to a religious festival, a new moon celebration or a
Sabbath day. So I'm saying you put that with the hollow philosophy based on human
tradition.
They had some,
there was some issues going on.
Yeah, and look,
it's just what we were talking about.
Legalism, basically.
It's what we talked about
in the overtime last time.
So people try to hold on
to certain things
and then make them apply to everybody.
He's saying, don't do that.
Well, my point is in verse 17,
which goes along with what I'm trying to say here,
he said, these are a shadow
of the things that were to come.
The reality, however,
is found in Christ.
It's found in a person.
Right.
So they were getting hung up on the shadows or the things that were happening leading up to Christ being revealed.
But they were missing that Christ has been revealed.
Anasticism had kind of crept in there.
You know, like this old body of mine is scrape.
You sit out under a bush out in the middle of nowhere scraping yourself with sharp objects.
Self-imposed worship, false humility.
and their harsh treatment of the body.
That's chapter 2 and 22.
But they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
That won't work.
You say, you know, he's freed you from all that.
Get off the rules and regulation.
Don't eat this.
Don't do that.
That's going to make you look back.
You know, one rule after another one.
Humanity has a problem.
They want to get it down to rules and regulations.
So the outward appearance looks like,
Oh, look how holy they are.
Yeah.
He said, no.
Yeah, do not handle, do not taste.
Do not taste.
Hollow felt, you know, what you eat.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, look, I've had,
probably a person that I've had more arguments over the Bible,
which was years ago.
The last time I saw this guy,
he was living just like the world.
But it made me realize all that time,
arguing about biblical theology, none of that matters if your life is a complete disaster.
Well, don't you think, which is kind of his point.
Don't you think, let's take another break.
Don't you think when Jesus used the word hypocrite so much for people that had to look like they could argue?
And he said, you're whitewashed tombs.
You're no different to anybody else.
But boy, you sure talk a good game, you know, I mean, over and over.
And they had the clothing to go with it.
Oh, they had it all.
If Christ was in you or he is in you, that means that just wouldn't work.
So I want to read you this, Judge, because I looked this up when you said that, I'm going to go,
the way Paul described it back when we studied First Corinthians, 1st Corinthians, 1st Corinthians, 1st Corinthians,
We have the mind of Christ, was the way he put it, meaning that once the spirit lives in you,
you know what he's thinking.
You have his mind now.
But you look over in 2nd Corinthians 4-4, remember he said,
the God of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers
so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ.
See it all the time.
Yeah.
So without that mind of Christ you're talking about, without the Holy Spirit,
you'll miss everything.
Yeah.
And it all comes because the evil one has blinded you.
You're not open to, you know, having the spirit in you.
Yeah, and it's not.
I mean, they get the legal aspect of it because, you know, when you read something like chapter 3 in verse 14 where he says, bind love, bind everything in love in perfect unity.
Well, people try to have perfect unity in the religious setting by agreeing on all scriptures or text.
or interpretations of the scriptures.
But you're never going to agree with everybody.
Right.
On all that.
So you're not talking about that.
Exactly.
Well, you're never going to be perfect based on your decision making either.
Right.
You're hard as you try.
So, but if you acknowledge Christ is in you, there is a way to respond to that, which is honesty, confession.
The things that come along with being a sinner, but being in general.
but being in Jesus, you're humble.
You say, well, I blew it on that.
I mean, because you're acknowledging his presence in your life.
So you're not going to act like it didn't happen or lie about it and go like that.
So it comes back to that love.
But remember, you're right.
So the verse 314 that you just read, in one verse, he tells the Colossians what he took a whole chapter to tell the Corinthians in 1st, Corinthians 13.
love is the way you're going to be unified.
It's like missing a target.
Aim for perfection, knowing that you'll stumble some.
Your aim is not always on the mark.
So you just keep, but you aim for it.
Which is, by the way, that's why we have love.
Love then allows you to deal with everybody as you fall short.
So that's why he told the Corinthians that because they're probably...
Well, Second Corinthians 1311 says aim for perfection.
There you go.
Be of one mind.
Right.
Live in peace.
Yep.
How do you do that?
You love each other.
The God of love and peace will be with you.
Right.
There it is.
I mean you're sinless.
You're sinless because of Jesus.
Right.
And you've talked about it before today.
Marriage is a good illustration.
You can agree to disagree on the way of looking at a situation with your wife.
Are you totally unified and lover and lover as sister in Christ?
Sure.
But it doesn't mean you agree on everything.
Any women are different.
Everybody who takes aim, everybody misses from time to time.
It's just the way it is.
Even the duck men of Louisiana.
Even the duck men miss.
Yeah, I miss that.
There's nothing wrong with aiming for it.
That's exactly right.
Which, I mean, as you grow in Christ, that's why the aim, as you go along, you understand
the maturity of it of what he's done.
You're saved because of your position in him.
there is no sin.
Yeah.
And you're,
you're sheltered.
The blood,
the blood shelters you.
You know,
but essentially,
I don't know if y'all could say this,
but I can say this for myself.
As I've gotten older,
I definitely have gained much more in love
for people and for believers
and much less dogmatic
about our differences.
I've become much less.
Yep.
And it's really interesting because...
It's a call in the redneck world.
You're wising up.
Wising up.
And I go to an event,
a big thing.
in Washington, D.C., and I see a lot of different groups there, and I look around, I think,
man, this is great. We're all coming together for life or some common cause. That's a good thing.
Yeah. You know, we don't want to stay in our little tribes and never interact with other people.
That's right. But, you know, a lot of times you get so dogmatic about it, and you forget love.
You forget kind of the purpose of what you're doing.
Well, I mean, he says in 21, once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds.
because it starts in the mind.
If there's not an acknowledgement that there is a God and an idea to self-serve yourself,
these are how sins happen.
This is the process because of your evil behavior.
So it's a process that happens, alienation, enemies in your mind, evil behavior.
That all goes hand in hand.
but now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body,
which we said that podcast,
they were having a problem with God being in a body.
And I kind of understand that because they all know how we are
because we're, in essence, weak.
I mean, Phil told us when we were kids,
you know, about people bigger and stronger.
And it's like, well, there's always somebody bigger
and there's they can't swat buckshot i think was your yeah that's why i said let the peace
peace of christ rule in your hearts because you just brought it up since as members of one body
you were called to peace not war you're like you're talking about a hard lesson to learn
for the for even the religious world called to peace he's the prince of peace he's the prince of
peace, the one who is in you.
Well, you'll find out as a fruit of the spirit.
Do you, are you in a constant state of war?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And arguing over the scriptures and this and that, you know,
that we can do that ruin rules and regulations.
They just lead the war.
That's all it is.
And the first peace that happened, the reconciliation,
the reason he mentions it in a body is he's talking about on the cross.
That's right.
The reason he came here and was in a human body was so he could give that human body as a sacrifice for all people because it was divine blood that was spill.
So the first reconciliation was that.
That's what I was going to read because it says through death and to present you holy, set apart and with now a new mission.
Without blemish.
So there's your perfection.
Yep.
Well, that happened because he was perfect when he died.
Correct.
And even free from accusation.
Which is a big one.
I mean, that's a big one.
Because you remember one of Satan's names, the accuser.
Well, they're still doing it today.
You don't have to do anything stupid.
I mean, we all do.
So if they can wait for it, it'll probably happen.
But now people don't want to wait for it.
So they just bring up an accusation.
Get it on the Internet.
Get enough people.
to agree with you well just or just pile on or just put it out just pile on yeah i've said this
before the reason i kind of got off the internet because there's more stuff out there that about me
that is absolutely false than it is true that's the reason i said why and doer the agony forget
the thing but it's actually kind of a positive because it's so many bad things where'd you get that
info is it's cell phone i'm like yes but there's so many bad things now that people who know me they're
like, well, that's not true.
So it's like when they see something, even if it was true, they'd say, well, let's take
our last break.
It's funny because I get questions.
I'll go somewhere and you'd think, like, I just kind of chuckle because somebody
comes and say, yeah, this thing about your dad and the selling marijuana oil.
And I'm just like, really?
I mean, do you follow dad?
I mean, do you watch your sermons and stuff?
They're like, yeah, and I said, do you think he would be making marijuana oil?
And they're like, I didn't think so.
I was like, then it's a lie.
Just because you read it on the Internet doesn't mean it's true.
But, you know, it's just people are easily full.
You can say that 100 times it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter because it seems like it is true because I read it somewhere.
Somebody posted it.
Right?
Yeah.
But I like, I think that's one of the greatest qualities that God gives us.
It's one of the greatest blessings is that you're free from accusation.
That's big.
But, you know, what I've always said, as you get to 23, when you see the word if, then you think, uh-oh.
So as good as that is, what should my life look like if you continue in your faith,
established and firm, not move from the hope head out in the gospel.
So you find yourself, he died for your sins.
He's selling marijuana all.
He was raised from the dead.
He's selling marijuana all.
Life and immortality is yours through Jesus.
He's selling.
Well, I'm saying it just doesn't fit your character, but, you know, people sometimes believe that.
That's a good one they come up with.
The Satan pulled.
one on that one. He did. It is interesting that he refers to faith, hope, and love. He does it in the 21
through 23, but he also starts off that in chapter three. We always thank God, the Father of our
Lord Jesus, when we pray for you because we have heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, of the love
you have for all the saints, the faith and love that spring from the hope that is stored up
for you in heaven and that you have already heard about in the Word of Truth, the gospel.
that has come to you.
Right.
I mean,
don't you think that's interesting.
It is.
And obviously, God is a three is a big thing with God.
He's three parts.
We're three parts.
When Paul talked about faith, it was, I mean, we talked about Christianity,
three parts, faith, open love.
So it's kind of interesting as a kind of a God of threes.
I don't know what the, I guess that's why most of my sermons have three points.
Never thought about it.
It must be.
I mean, here's kind of an interesting.
take because he said the hope in verse five that is stored up for you in heaven i mean it's an
interesting thing it's there because i guess if you had no hope i mean you just think about if you
had no hope well no wonder you're miserable you would just be what would you be doing down here
yeah just well you're just spinning your wheels you wouldn't know you wouldn't know there was
know, yeah.
Well, you would be driven by whatever it is that was important to you.
So for some people, it's money, some people it's thrill seeking.
Other people, it's addiction.
I mean, if that's all you, if you didn't have hope, Jay's, if you didn't think there
was something beyond, because when you think about that stored up for you, that's kind
of sort of sounds like, you know, a retirement or a 401K.
You miss that.
You never be productive.
So this is something that's beyond this life.
is what we're talking about.
I mean, that's huge.
Bigger than this life.
Yeah.
Which that changes your complete outlook.
What I do like about that, Jace, is that he says, as he begins there, we pray for you
because we have heard of your faith in Christ Jesus.
And we've heard of the love you have for all the saints.
And then he goes into the faith and love.
Same way now today.
Isn't that interesting?
People hear about you.
What do they hear about you?
What do they hear about you?
If you're in a church, if you're in a church,
What is your church known for?
I mean, you should be known as being a people of faith,
the people of love, and a people of folk.
That's it.
If you're not known for that.
You know, what they do,
they put the little thing up at the top of the letterhead of the church.
Yeah, that's right.
What are we known for?
What do we have something to do with faith, hope, and love.
And Jesus, as the center.
That's like every time.
Don't get off that.
Don't get off it.
We know for something else.
But you know how they always, I mean, there's,
They're so confusing to the world.
Right.
There's literally thousands of different ways this Bible is manifested in a church setting.
Right.
Thousands.
Oh, I know.
Because people, they'll say, hey, let's unite on faith, hope, and love and focus on Jesus.
And then somebody says, and you got to be circumcised for you come in here.
Including the women.
Yeah.
What?
What?
Well, we'll figure something out.
But yeah, you said.
Yeah.
So that, well, that's a number.
other segment because then you that would weed out the women or pull in part of the law and make
that you know it's got to be about this that or the other making a lot of but it really is sad
that this is viewed that way but i think that in a way was god's intention because you know when
he gets to chapter three i think a confusing thing is he says your life is hidden in christ
with christ in god three three for you died and your life is now hidden with christ
That's the position.
Your position is a good spot.
Well, they're hearing about their faith, hope, and love.
But your life is protected because it's hidden in Christ.
You can't get at me and take me out.
There's no way.
Because I think it's camouflaging all these churches and religions.
There are people who have put their faith and hope in Jesus.
Their life is reflecting faith, hope, and love.
They died.
They surrendered a long time.
to go even though they're here they which is what galoshans 2 was about and it's why it's the most
powerful thing on earth because you can't get at it you're not sure who's who there's so many
imposters there were imposters here that's who he was writing what he's writing about but inside there
some of these people you know they read this and thought man i got to get my focus back on the lord
here and be a servant die with christ and start showing you
faith, hope, and love.
Sounds like somebody's
pulling up. They're pulling up.
He's a minute early.
That's right. You know, I was saying
more than jelly. I was thinking about it,
Jase, with all the people we've
known, both in our family,
forever family, but then also our earthly family,
that had this same faith
we're talking about, that love the Lord, that
lived their life for the resurrection,
went to their death, saying,
you know, I'm not fearful
because I know what's beyond.
and then we're still alive at this point,
but all the times,
funerals I've spoken at,
funerals I've been at,
visitations,
wakes,
and just realize that's when it's all
either real or it's not.
Yep.
When you get to that point,
and we're getting,
I mean,
we're all going to face that
unless the Lord decides to come back,
you know,
sooner rather than later.
But it really is what motivates you
every single day
and gives you peace of mind,
as dad said earlier,
right?
No doubt.
We are sons of the resurrection.
and children of the cross because we know we're free from accusation.
I mean, it's a, man, it's a heck of a way to live.
Because it's way better than if I didn't have it.
I'll tell you that.
Because let's face it, we know a lot of people that don't, right?
Peace of mind is a rare commodity.
It is.
Peace of mind.
I like it.
It's a good thing to end on.
We're out of time anyway.
We've got some overtime.
We'll talk a little bit more about this, and then we'll see you on the next podcast.
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