Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 479 | Phil Stockpiles These Long-Lasting Survival Foods & How Jase Dies Every Single Day

Episode Date: May 16, 2022

Phil receives a gift from an "Unashamed" listener, and Jase can't wait to break out the hot sauce, crackers, and mustard. Phil provides some advice for people who like to prep by stockpiling food with a long shelf life for times of need. Jase discusses dying to one's own self both physically and emotionally every day as part of his spiritual discipline and daily worship of God. Al takes a look at our foreign brothers and sisters in Christ and the persecution they endure and provides a glimpse of the suffering even Paul experienced for God's name. Phil shares his insight concerning the quest for God's will in your own life, and he's got it boiled down to this: Whatever you do daily, bring Jesus with you. And Jase talks about how Jesus never seemed to be in a hurry, regardless of his earthly circumstances. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we mentioned on the last podcast, we had a guest here today who's going to be baptized a little bit later. A gentleman that I met up in one of my appearances up in New Jersey, which I loved my time there. The church was great, the place I spoke at. And Jay's, you had stepped out in between recording our podcast here. And so he said, he brought us a gift. And because, you know, we've had an influence on him, podcast and whatnot. And so he said, y'all are always feeding us with the loaves and the fishes.

And so he gave us some fish and crackers as a symbol. That's the gift that keeps on the gift. Exactly. I told us. I'm not a sardee man, but Jason, Dad, like them. And that's the best brand, right, Dad? No, I don't like them. Oh, you don't like them either?

I love it. I love them. Oh, okay, it's been saying, I don't like it. They are delicious. Oh, they are. But I will give you a caution because some people that are listening to this have probably never tried a sardine. Like my wife, she would never try this. I tried it.

When I popped the lid to it, it caused a gagged reflex, which was funny to me. Because you're basically eating the whole fish except the head. I mean, think of a Shiner that you would put on a hook to catch a cropy. You're eating that. Right. But I don't know. It's great to me. But it does linger.

You will belt this up for three or four hours. You're making it sound so appealing. Well, would you agree with that? Everybody says the medical community, they're very good for you. Yeah. Well, fish in general are, yeah. Sardines are really good food. Phil and I, we don't have a promotional deal with it, although I am open, but I do believe this particular brand is the best.

No doubt about it. I've tried them. I just, they've got it figured out. I love them. I love the King Oscar. So do you know where this came from? Do you know where these fish were caught and packed? I try not to, in something that I really like and enjoy, I try not to.

You want me to tell you? Try not to read. It was distributed in the U.S. in El Segundo, California, which I've been there. But it was actually packed, the caught and packed in Poland. The country of Poland. I knew it was somewhere probably Eastern Europe or Scandinavia. I would have guessed Finland is where I would have guessed. Well, I do like that they're wild caught, wood smoked, and they're hand-packed.

Yep. So that means people went to it. So thank you, Dean, for our gift. I love the symbolism of it, too. With my Norwegian fish. So today when you're going to wait on your pickups and production, you'll have you a little snack if you so much. I like to put a little.

You stack those up in your fort you had to make because of the world, the collapse of the American Empire. The apocalypse. And we're going to bring a lot of things out of the while, but probably before you see it collapsing, when it is collapsing, buy out everything you can get it, all the sardines you can stow up there.

Well, I guarantee you that brand's going first. Oh, I'm telling you. You mix that, but deer meat squirrel. Maybe we'll get a spot. Maybe that's a lot of fish. But the way they actually put those together and smoke them and all that, you know, in the olive oil. You know what's funny?

You think of that. I may have to revisit because, you know, taste change. There's a lot of things I like now that I didn't like for most of my life. So maybe I need to revisit. Now, I will give you some advice. Because I do like fishy fish. So I like salmon and this is a I don't taste fishy this is a I don't know it doesn't taste fishy to me I mean anything on it do you put mustard or going going there I use two things I use

either Louisiana hot sauce okay or mustard yeah I think I prefer the mustard I thought I'd send you eat mustard either one will do which is kind of ironic because we put mustard sometimes on our fish when we fry them well that's where I got the idea oh really so that's why Because you had already eaten it on the sardine first? I mean, the only thing I don't know is the crop eating first. Because I was a little skeptical about it when I saw Phil eating them. I mean, this is, I'm going back to my teenage year. Yeah, we were.

And I looked and I thought, I think I'd have gutted them first before I stuck them in here. That's what my first thought was. Yeah. But they, not needed. They smoke it. And it just, there's, it's kind of like, to me, coffee. if you wanted to an equivalent. Because when I first tasted coffee, I thought, well, this is terrible.

But I tried it again. Maybe I like the effects of it. But now I have to drink a cup of coffee every day. I love coffee. But I love sardines, especially in the duck line. Because you can put them in your pocket. Yep. Have a little mustard.

And they keep. Do you eat anything on yours? Or you just eat them straight up. A little hot sauce sometime. That's it. Yeah. Feel like it's the hot. hot sauce. So look, when I was, I was just in Tennessee with my family, we were, we kind of had a

Mother's Day neighborhood celebration. I told you about the crawfish. It was true. So I opened the pantry because my son lives there. I was like, let me see what you've been eating. And I looked and there was as many cans of sardines as I've ever seen. I was like, I cannot believe my son has gotten into the sardines. And so he came out. I was like, look, I love your diet. And he said, what you mean? I said, all these sardines, he said, no, that's bait. I was like, what are you? Now, they weren't King Oshkers, but.

Oh, that's always putting in the animal. Yeah, be patient with that one because you have the bait. You have what you want to catch. You already had the whole thing. Yeah, I said, this is not the bait. This is, this is it. I said, I'm not sure about the brand. This would, this bait would catch you.

That's, that's the funny thing about it. We have something killing our chickens, and he would. I was using that for pay. Oh, that's embarrassing. So I went to last week I was in the great state of Ohio. There's a lot of really good people in Ohio. It's kind of like, you know, they neighbor Indiana, Jason. You know, I get up in that part of the country.

I mean, these people are just so great. The towns are kind of the old Americana, small town I was in. And this was working people. Working people. Worsing people. Ashland, Ohio, just salt of the earth. I mean, just treated me so great. You know, so we'd planned this prayer breakfast.

Last Thursday was the National Day of Prayer, which you realize, I think it was 1952, I heard him say, when the first declaration. So we've been having a National Day of Prayer for the last, what however long, that is, 70 years. And so people still recognize it. And again, towns like this. And we have a big one here in Monroe as well. We've all spoken at it at different times. So they invited me up to speak.

But because of COVID, it kept, you know, first year they couldn't meet at all. And then last year, he told me, they told them we were at like a university, you know, place on the college campus there. And he said they were only going to let them have like 25% of what normally the room will hold. So he didn't want to bring me up for that because they just had kind of a smaller one. So this year, we were able to go almost full board. They had almost 1,000 people there. but it was just such a neat thing because one is like every time they would pray what I loved about is I spoke and there was a guy there that I met that did some worship songs and he was great

great guy and then they prayed for more than those two put together because he was like this is a prayer breakfast or we're going to pray so they had these different people men and women some them were leaders in their community the mayor was there and the mayor got up and spoke for me and when I got up, I was like, I want this guy from my mayor. I mean, he just shucked the corn, the gospel of Jesus. He didn't, you know, most people are like politician. He was like, no, we're here to pray because we love Jesus Christ. You know, he was really bold.

And his wife is the director of the pregnancy center there. But when these people were praying, what I loved about is they would have people stand up out of all this audience. They'd pray for all the local officials and state officials. And every time they would do that police officer's firemen, all these people were there. And I just thought, man, what a great town in America because they're praying for all these people. What's the way America should work all over? It should.

I just thought about this is what's being lost in the bigger culture war. Under attack. Yeah. And these people were fantastic. And they told me something, Dad, that I know you'll love this. And they've been doing this for years in Ohio. And I had no idea because we don't do it around here. Is they have some kind of mobile unit that goes to near school.

and they have the option. If you want to take one of your recesses during the day of the kids in the school, you can go out and they got kind of like a little vacation Bible school, like a little Bible class. They can't do it on the grounds, you know, but that thing, but they allow them to have that opportunity. And I talked to a few principals that were there and the guys that do the curriculum.

It was like, you wouldn't believe how many thousands of kids in Ohio. Just go for a little Bible every day, you know, in a month they're learning. And so, Jay, you know, you talked about getting God out. but they found a way to get him back in. And, you know, it's, and it's, it's, need more like that. We need a lot more like that.

I was super encouraged. I just, I know there's some listeners up there. I met a lot of you and took, took pictures with you. But I just appreciate the way you treated me. But it was, it does me a lot of good to go to other places where you can see the people of God or, you know, as Jay said, all the names we talked about last time. And it's real, you know. See their evidence.

It's good news amongst all the bad we hear in these days. Yeah. Yeah. Feel free to send us, there are a lot of names that were classified as followers, disciples, believers. We did the saints. I mean, we did a lot, but there are many more. I was just trying to, you know, to kind of do a segue here to the podcast we're going to talk about today.

I was trying to just bridge the gap that the number one thing we use in our modern culture was actually, I don't want to say the least positive thing, but it was something deemed by the world that's only mentioned three times when you say I'm a Christian. And I've said that. I mean, I think it's okay to use it. It is. It is in the Bible.

Yeah. But you're right, I had never thought about it that out of all the terms that were called in the New Testament, really, Christian is the most shallow. I mean, it does say who we follow, so that's not shallow. But you look up the history on where that name originated from. It was the worldly take on what people who follow Jesus. Well, you know, we can do better.

And I think the scriptures lead us that way. And the more you look into each name, the deeper your relationship. You realize how deep this relationship is. This is a bond with Jesus. I mean, you belong to him. It's way more than just a peripheral, you know, this is what I believe. Right. It's a person.

It's a being. It's a relationship. Embodies your entire life and affects your entire life. Yeah. So you're right. It means a lot more. So when Paul said in chapter one, we're going to talk about this, the will of God. And I will clarify that I should have wore my shirt that says I could be wrong.

but we're going to get into different religious organizations' view of this, this term, the will of God. Because there's a lot of fingers to this river. A lot of creeks people go down to. And we'll try to address some because I realize we have a diverse group that are listening. And this is pretty deep stuff. Which, by the way, you're right, Jay's, because anytime we have a discussion, biblical discussion, which is what we're going to do today, about anything to do with God himself and what he does, you do need to have that line. I could be wrong, because he's so much bigger

than we are. It's the same you talk about chosen, elect. There's so many different things from God's perspective to our perspective. So I just want to set that up that look. Right. Exactly. It's always going to be more difficult for us to understand exactly what some attribute of God is. And having said that, one thing I'm confident that I'm not wrong about is that God chose to reveal himself to us in the form of a man named Jesus. Correct. Who represented heaven and earth because he was a man and because he's God.

So it's where heaven and earth meet. Correct. Which think about that. just the weight of that statement. Heaven and earth met through a person. The name was Jesus. He was on the earth. We count time by.

Yep. But we also, his mom was a virgin. So that is the image of the invisible God. And you talked about that in a recent podcast, when you talked about the treasure of heaven, the treasure of earth, the contrast of that, Jesus is the unifier of that contrast. They don't make it out in the world. They don't treat him. as real.

And I was going to go to Jason's point that when the wrap-up occurs to the Colossians that Paul wrote and the Saints and all that, if you look at it carefully. Hang on down before you read that, let's take a break. Just remember this because the Saints, this is an ongoing struggle at all times. He said, devote yourself to personal. prayer. That's his Colossian 4, being watchful and thankful. Pray for us too. Now, the way all this is worded is amazing that God may open a door for our message so that we may proclaim the mystery of Christ. He's saying, namely his death, peril, and resurrection that he started with in chapter 1.

He said, for which I'm in change. He said, look, you know, throw in a prayer for me because I'm down here. They got me in jail over this thing. And he's saying it just as a matter of fact, pray that I may proclaim it clearly as I should. He never deviates not one centimeter from the task at hand. And here's an interesting way to view the world, because we've discussed who we are for the last two or three podcasts, or probably from the start of the podcast,

we started here. Well, in the last minute of the bonus time behind the paywall, we did discuss some of the names of the opposite. Yeah, that's right. Because you have to remember the way he puts it here is be wise in the way you act toward outsiders. Now, that schism that's developed between the world and Jesus has been going on ever since Jesus showed up. It's like this. It's a great point because he labels.

I mean, there are people who are not saints out there. Well, and who are those people? Be wise in the way you act toward them. I think it's a dangerous thing because a lot of people. You don't want to rip them because Jesus died for them. But look. You know, everybody said, well, they tried to cancel you. Why don't you try to wipe them?

Why don't you retaliate? I said, Jesus died for them. A lot of people in the churches view people. people that are not in their specific church. And I mean in the walls of the camp that they set up as an outside. We wall each other off. Much more. So what does that mean? I think that has to be, you're either in Christ or you're out, outside of Christ. I think that's the barometer. If you add something else there, I think you're going down a dangerous road. That's right. If you want to do a Google search, look up how many times the New Testament uses the phrase in Christ.

Yeah. I mean, if you're told, if the saints are told, by the way, I'm down here, pray for me that I may proclaim the mystery of Christ, he's setting a stage up where he says, look to the people that he's still a mystery to, be wise in the way you deal with them. He didn't say, you know, attack him. He just said, be wise in the way you act toward them. You see what I'm saying? Yep.

That's good advice. I agree. You know, people like Jay said build walls, and it's us or to hell with you. You just have to be careful on how you deal with outsiders because you want them to know Jesus and become a saint like you. Correct. Well, now, just to make the point here. and I didn't have this prepared, so I'm looking for the verses real quick.

That's why I threw it in there because I wanted you to chew on that a little bit. That's good. So here's two verses. So let's take Colossians 1 and verse 19. Now, he's talking about Jesus is the image of the invisible God that's in 15, and he talks about how powerful he is.

He is before all things. And in him, 17, there's a phrase. in him. So you have outside of him and you have in him, all things hold together. And then it says in verse 19, for God was pleased to have all his

fullness dwell in him. Now, I'm looking for one that says we're in him. I'm sure we won't have to look hard to find one. I know there's a bunch of... There's a bunch of Ephesians. Well, in whom

is in verse 13. He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us, well, here we go, into the kingdom of the Sonny loves, in whom we have redemption. So you're in, you're in him, you're in the kingdom. When he says in chapter four, the outsiders, I think it would be the opposite. But he also says, like in Colossians 127, God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of the mystery, which is Christ in you.

you. So you have that also. He's in us. We're in him. But the bigger point is it's about him and not you. Correct. If you're outside of him. By the way while you're there, First John, you know that he appeared that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him. That's a good one. First John, where you're at? First John. First John chapter three. Yeah, that's a good. But there's hundreds. Yep. Well, here's one. Here's one in Colossians 2, 9. For in Christ, there's the phrase, all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form.

So in Christ is God, the Father, Himself, and the Holy Spirit. And you have been given fullness in Christ. So look, verse 11, in Him you had the old sinful self put on. off, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men. So you see the concept. And 13 gives you the opposite. When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive.

Which means you would be outside. You're outside if you're in your sin and in your... And the benefits. So having said all that, you get into this, what is the will of God? Well, that's a good, that's a big question. Because he mentions it twice, Jason, one, one, we talked about last podcast. He's an apostle by the will of God. So just think about what that means, because that's a deep thought.

Verse two. So the will of God was for Paul, the will of God. What God wanted to happen was that he would be set apart in Christ Jesus. And remember, it wasn't Paul. It wasn't Paul. will because he was on his way to Damascus to throw Christians in prison and kill them. That was the will of Saul. See what I'm saying?

So when he says the will of God was for me to become apostle, initially it wasn't the will of Saul. Plus, you could add at one point for sure, he was an outsider. He was. But here's the thing about it. Completely on the outside. But he thought he was an insider. That's correct.

And based on what we just read in Colossians 1, we didn't read 25 and 26. But God had a commission that God gave Paul to present the word of God in its fullness and to reveal this mystery, which is Christ in you. So when we read the verse that we're going to talk about today, which is, if you read from 9 through 11, Yeah, you'll see this phrase. It says, for this reason, since the day we heard about you, we have not stopped praying for you and asking God to fill you with the knowledge of his will. So that phrase is what we're going to dive into. What is the knowledge of God's will?

So he's already said what... How do you get that? Yeah, how do you get that? How do you know that? through all spiritual wisdom and understanding. So the vehicle that you're going to understand what God's will for your life is is going to take some spiritual wisdom and understanding, also provided by God. And we pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord

and may please him in every way, bearing fruit and every good work, growing in the knowledge of God, being strengthened, with all power, according to his glorious might, so that you may have great endurance, patience, and joyfully given thanks to the Father who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light. So that's a load. That's a very sophisticated, there's a lot of moving parts about how you understand the knowledge of his will.

Now, he also said that knowledge of God, growing in the knowledge of God. So understanding God. So ultimately, he's going to say, well, Jesus is the image of the invisible God. So to understand God, that's why we keep going over this at nauseam, which is why he said he revealed the mystery, which is Christ in you. Because Jesus Christ is relatable. Right. But even that, you still, there's not one day that I don't read the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John with how Jesus operated, and I don't learn something.

Right. And I've been in this for almost 40 years. And you're right. Let's take a break. And you're right. And if it's knowledge and will, then we're talking about the human mind. That's what we're talking about. The Bible refers to it many times as the heart.

heart, but it's your mind. It's, it's, it's that place where you know things, where you're strong-willed. This is what we're trying to in. It's what, uh, it's what, uh, Carson was saying. Yeah. And there were the frontal lobe of you, that's right, where you put things together. Yep. So here's the argument. Not, it's not an argument. That's a terrible thing. It's, it's the discussion. And what I said, you know, it could be wrong about, I've noticed in some religious groups, now I'm talking about religious groups that deem Jesus as Lord. the Trinity, God is Father, you know, the Holy Spirit. But in some of them, they seem to be pursuing God's will on a daily basis in all aspects of life.

So you're saying, what do you mean by that? So you can just tell by the way they present lessons. And I wanted to give you an example of that. And I will. But the second part is some other groups, which is, which is, where I lean toward. To me, God's will for your life is the same as it was Paul, in essence, even though we're all different. We have different talents and gifts and circumstances in past lives. Everybody's different. So the will of God being shown in your life in Jesus,

which is my second thought here, is the same, yet it shows itself a little. It shows itself a little, little differently. So I'm saying we all unite in Jesus. He is in us, and we become like Jesus in this world. And everybody has that process happen. That is the will of God. Correct. To become like Jesus in the world today, by what you say, how you act. So if you go back to the first one, well, how does that show itself in the details? I think that's a little tricky and it can be a little dangers. I want to give you an example. Here's why that happens. If you read the Old Testament, which somebody once said, you're not going to

understand the New Testament or appreciate it fully, is what I would say, is if you don't understand the Old Testament, because it's why we need, why humanity needed Jesus. If you read the Old Testament, you say, well, we need something because we can't keep the law, we can't be God's family because of our weakness and sinful. I mean, you've got all these books. And so the theme of it becomes Jesus, God, in human form, is coming, right? So let me give you an example. So if you read, this is a story, it's kind of an obscure story, but I think you'll like it.

Because I think it shows you both sides of that thought, which is how do you daily recognize God's will? And two, understanding that the overall will of God is for us to conform to Jesus. and him basically possess us. We belong to him. He's in us. We're in him as we function. So this is after the Red Sea was parted. I mean, we're talking a monumental moment here in Israel's history.

You would think that's enough. We're going across, we come to a sea, we're trapped. It's a trap. We're fixed to be destroyed. Oh, wait. The actual sea has parted and we can walk. I mean, you're talking about a miracle. Well, you would think that would end all unbelief.

That would end all complaining. Because speaking to the daily. That ought to do it. That ought to do it. You pretty much understand now that God's, whatever his will is for my life, I'm going to seek that out because this is awesome. It's kind of like Gabriel told Mary when he told her she would give birth to a child. And she said, how can this be?

and he ended up by saying nothing's impossible for God. That's right. That's his will for us to understand that. Nothing is impossible. So I just want to say, so in Exodus 15, you have this, I'm just going to go to the tell end of the story of 19. When Pharaoh's horses, chariots, horsemen went into the sea, the Lord brought the waters of the sea back over them. So not only were they saved, their enemies were destroyed.

Their enemies were destroyed. And so what happened? Didn't somebody find a lot of? of pieces of equipment lying around on the bottom out there when they check that out. Yeah, I've read that before also. So Miriam, you know what you do in this situation? They broke out a tambourine in her hand in verse 20. And all the women followed with tambourines and dancing, and Miriam sang this song.

Sing to the Lord, for he is exalted. The horse and its rider, he is hurled into the seas. This is a monumental moment. All right. Well, then watch what happens next. Then Moses led Israel from the Red Sea, and they went into the desert of Shur. For three days, they traveled in the desert without finding water.

Now, they just went through a sea, and the Lord delivered them in one of the most spectacular moments in the history of mankind. Where's the water bags now? Well, now all of a sudden, we can't find any water, and they came to Mara, and they couldn't drink the water because it was bitter. That's why it was called Mara.

So the people grumbled against Moses, saying, well, so we got an issue here. What are we supposed to drink here? I mean, now you just, you think, well, surely they, they would stop and say, well, wait a minute now. If he conquered us, but if you haven't had any water in a couple days, you're getting you're getting angry you're getting angry you're starting to question what I thought this meant that we were we're good he saved us and so that that's why I came here

because we struggle I mean we hear the gospel this is great we're going to heaven and all of a sudden we look around and we're like well what are we going to drink so we have a practical life issue that has come up and we're trying to figure out what the will of God is in this Right? So it says, then Moses cried out to the Lord, and the Lord showed him a piece of wood. Now, this is getting crazy. He showed him a piece of wood. You know what the wood was from, don't you? Go for it. A splendor tree. A splendor tree? I just meant that.

Oh, because it was bitter. So he threw it into the water, and the water became sweet. ergo splendor tree oh now see you know if you're an unbeliever and you're reading this you're like what this just seems a little bit out there now i get the story you don't think it wasn't out there that we parted a sea that was already out there we we've gone out there now we got something else here so then moses okay cried out uh he's shedding the piece of wood he threw it in the water everybody's happy now right there the lord made a decree and a law for them and there he tested them he said and now which is gives you the reasoning on why they went three days he actually named four

things here if you listen carefully to the voice of the lord your god and do what's right if you pay attention to his commands and you keep all his degrees which kind of goes in with with with Colossians, with all spiritual wisdom and understanding as you're trying to figure out the knowledge of God, he says, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I'm the Lord who heals you. So at his heart, he's wanting to be a healer, he's wanting to be a protector, he's wanting to be a savior, all this stuff is good, and tests come up. Now, having said all that,

hang on, let's take a break. Having said all that, I tend to go on the side of, when I read that story, you know what the first thing that pops into my head is I think, well, that wood represented what he was going to do later,

ultimately, with hanging his son on a piece of wood in the shape of a cross. And it was going to bring sweetness to, because you go into all the verses about, the living water and you have to have water. Where there's no water, there's no life.

Or there's no Jesus, what? There's no life. It ends in death. And so I tend to look at it like that as far as the will of God. Well, he was giving them just a little glimpse of something that he was going to fully show in the cross of hanging his son. Because let's face it, they couldn't really keep the four things he gave them they couldn't keep anyway. Now, I said that to say this, to go back to my thing about these two points that people in the religious world perceive. But there's a lot of people that are still looking for a piece of wood.

They're coming up to a creek saying, well, this water is bitter, and they're looking around for a sign on what this means. And they're like, you know, the Lord told me, because y'all have heard that. People say, well, I was in a situation, and I didn't know what to do. the Lord told me, throw that piece of wood. And people are still trying to do these things today, which gets tricky. Because what if the Lord didn't tell you that? I mean, has he ever audibly said something to you? I mean, some people would say he had.

So I use this as an analogy to say this. And I think this helps me. And I don't want to say that he doesn't work today in practical ways because I believe he does. but I do believe the overriding factor is what I'm fixed to read to you, that Jesus has to be the center. He has given you his will in Jesus, which is Christ in you. That's what you spiritually try to discern by reading the Gospels over and over and over and over again. Remember the other day I came in here and I said, well, you know what I realized?

I was reading John, and I said, Jesus never got in a hurry. Remember I said there was a couple days ago. It wasn't on the podcast, but I just said that, and we kind of chuckled because I had just read, and I thought, I learned something new today. He just never seemed to be in a hurry. I mean, and he was the most powerful person to ever be on the earth. Take his time. To read this Hebrews 1, where it says, in the past, God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways. Well, I just read one where he spoke and said, hey, see a piece of a wood over?

throw it in a water. But there's many more. I mean, there's visions and dreams and audibly things happening. Remember the burning bush? I mean, he's speaking through a bush in the desert. Axead that floated. Axehead that floated. We had a donkey say something.

So when you say in the past, God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, well, just don't read over that quickly. There was a lot of ways. That was happening. But he says this, but in these last days, he has spoken to us by his son, whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom he made the universe.

And like Colossians 115, he says this, the sun is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being sustaining all things by his powerful work. Sounds a lot like causing. After he provided purifications for sins, what is that? There's a piece of wood going into some bitter water. You see what I'm getting at? Now, that may not have been the exact thought back then,

but I'm trying to share with our listeners that the number one thing you need to do when you're talking about what is the will of God is it has to filter through Jesus. whatever the will of God, he accomplished it through Jesus. Jesus comes in us and we're in Him. That is the ultimate will of God. So you say, well, here I am now as an ambassador as a saint with work to do,

with God's commission. What is his commission for my life to get Jesus out there? So then you get into the practical things, which is, well, how am I going to do that? And that's where people struggle. Phil seemed to be easier than most because he got out. here on a riverbank, started building duck calls. People started gathering up listening to you talk about duck calls, and you thought, oh, I guess this is my platform to share Jesus.

Yeah. So I did the same thing. So that's kind of the argument slash discussion about the will of God. No, I like it. And in fact, it's ironic because I mentioned earlier about, you know, this concept of the elect, we could ask a lot about that. lot too. But I make the same argument for that discussion. It's better than argument. The same discussion about that is that as long as you put in Jesus there, we can have all the predestination

and chosen you want to have as long as it's in Christ. That's always the forerunner, you know, because what happens is if you don't put Jesus there, then it becomes about what I do or I did to then get myself elected. So in Jesus is the key, I think, to the whole thing. Look, let me give you an example because maybe I don't want to be confusing. So I had a discussion within this calendar year with a pasture. And I was out of his place. It was not a local place. We were doing something else.

We're out there. And he said, well, here's what God told me because I was at his place on his land. And so he goes through this long thing about what God told him. And, you know, I can't help myself. I didn't mean anything by it. But, I mean, he went on a 10-minute speech, passionate, emotional about what God had told him to do. And so when he got finished, I said, what's that got to do with Jesus? And I probably shouldn't have said it that way.

I didn't mean like. We're trying to be constant. Yeah, well, I really was it. I just thought, when are we getting to Jesus in this venture? And he was just looking dumbfounded at me, like, well, that's what God told me. But I was thinking, if it ultimately doesn't have anything to do with Jesus and get him in the world or showing him, I'm really not interested, but I didn't say it that way.

And it just kind of, it was kind of a conversation killer. But I really hadn't studied this like I did for today at that moment. I was just honestly thinking, where's the, what? What is the point of all that without going into all the details of it? And look, there was nothing wrong with the venture. There was nothing wrong with, you know, raising money and doing things. And it sounded fine. But I just thought, what's it got to do with Jesus?

I think that should be the question for anything. Let's take our last break. And Jay's, to your point, when you were talking about that, it took me back over to Matthew 6. and look at this prayer. Remember what he said? This is how you should pray to the disciples. My Father in heaven.

Hallow be your name. In other words, your name is above all. Your kingdom come, which it was doing with Jesus being here, right? Well, he mentions that in Colossians 1.13. And then he says, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. What did he mean by that? I mean, Jesus was on earth. Exactly.

He had come from heaven. I actually have that one written down. There you go. Great minds. And then he gives you just the practical. Give us this to our daily bread. Okay. Gotta eat.

Forgive us our debts as we've forgiven our debtors. In other words, have a heart of forgiveness. And lead us not to temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. Help us to be able to find. I mean, that's a pretty simple in-Jesus approach to how you go back your life every day. Well, right. But your platform becomes, just like our buddy Larry Bowles, that has the ministry in Greece.

Well, that whole plan started off with, well, we got a refugee crisis here. So from the love of God and love of human beings, now, whether you can say God told him or he just thought of it. Yep. It works either one for me. He gave him an impression.

I do believe that. You have the Holy Spirit of God. Right. He said, you know what, I'm going to help these people. Now, I think because he had the heart of Jesus in him and he saw these people and they looked like sheep that didn't have a shepherd. So what did he do? Well, he helped him physically.

So you're like, well, where's the Jesus part? Well, let me tell you, when you help somebody physically, especially people who are jumping into a sea and risking their life to get out of the radical country they're in and they are leaving everything behind, they think, well, there must be a guy because I should be dead. And here's a guy from America who's saying, look, here's you a blanket, here's you a bed, here's you some food. And I don't want anything from you. I just want to help you.

Well, that softens their heart. Right. Then what does he do? In the next few days, they start having spiritual conversations. He introduces them to Jesus on why he's helping them. And guess what? Lo and behold, they said, well, can we come to? He's like, sure.

And now, after doing this for years, those same people, who started off he was just helping them with their physical needs and an impression, an impression that he had because he's getting nothing, because I know him well, we've got to be good friends. There's nothing that Greece is offering him. He's not there for the scenery, for the fishing, for the, he is literally a fish out of water over there. But he's doing something that he feels like God led him to do,

but he's sharing Jesus. and now those same people are going back to the countries they came from. And they're sharing Jesus. Well, you say, what is that? He is exercising the will of God for his life in Jesus. And it's putting Jesus now in places where it is state law to reject Jesus and any other thing except for the state religion. Yep. So, I mean, it's fascinating.

Well, it's such a great idea because, look, these people, since, they survived the track there, they're not scared if they're killed back in their foreign country because they're like, well, I'm on bonus time. And now I'm going to heaven. There's their thing and I should have been killed on my way here. Plus, they were having all these amazing, you know, visions of something bigger than themselves en route to get there. Yeah. Jay's, I've read this before, but this fits into your, to your theory perfectly in Romans 8, 26. In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weaknesses. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans

that words cannot express. In other words, the divine in us because of Jesus, the Holy Spirit. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit because the Spirit intercedes for the saints, there's your word, in accordance with God's will. That's the way the process works. once Jesus is in us by His Holy Spirit, we then can communicate in a way where we do understand the will of God and know what that means for us to do.

And you're right, whether we have an idea and God says, go for it, or we try something that doesn't work and say, well, that didn't work out. Let me try something else. Well, let me read you this one. We're functioning. I agree. Let me read you this. This is First Thessalonians.

I had several verses, we're not going to have time to go through them all. But First Thessalonians Five, and there's an obscure verse. 1 Thessalonians 5, 16 through 18, says, be joyful always. And I got this from Colossians 1 because when he gets down there and he says, you persevere and you be joyful, you know, understanding what God's will is. Well, same terminology here. Give thanks. He says the same thing, Colossians 1, about being thankful.

Give thanks in all circumstances. Now watch this. For this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. So look at the same terminology in Colossians 1. You see these same words. So Colossians 1, 10, He wants you to live a life worthy of the Lord, pleasing him every way,

bearing fruit and every good work, growing in the knowledge of God, being strengthened with all power according to his glorious might, so that you may have great endurance, patience, and joyfully given thanks to the Father. so you said, well, why are you giving thanks in all circumstances? Because fulfilling God's will in your life is not going to be a bed of roses on the earth. It's going to be bumpy. You're going to come up on a pond and it's bitter. And you're like, what happened to all this?

You're for me. And that's Paul's whole ministry was, you know, I'm going out and I'm sharing Jesus and what happened? Bad things kept happening. Well, look at the, and they started this book by saying he was an apostle by the will of the Father. And then Jesus said, what did Jesus say about that will? I tell you what, he will suffer for my name. And boy, did he ever. I mean, the well of God in that situation, Jay's, that wasn't a bad of roses. That's why I think when people say, oh, the Lord is calling me to do this, and they go out there and it's not successful. And they say, well, he must not want me to do that. Well, you can't base it on that. Because everything Paul did was a disaster physically. He was

scarred from one end to the other. Boats are sinking and snakes are biting him. If he was trying to follow the signs, well, he's, looks like he's demon-possessed in me. But he was doing it in the name of Jesus and he was giving thanks in all circumstances based on the inward renewal day by day. And I said all this to tie in with what we said about treasures on earth and treasures in heaven. You think about that passage that we read in Second Christ, the process of our life physically is dying. We're dying every day. Things are slowing down and stopping every day.

Well, the opposite of that in Christ, God's will for your life, is we're being strengthened every day from a spiritual perspective. You say, well, why? Because we're preparing to live forever. That's why you can be thankful in all circumstances based on the earth. You can be joyful. because every day you're being strengthened a little bit because you have the Holy Spirit of God. He's preparing you for that inheritance, which is what?

An existence in light and life forever. Well, it's just like, and we're almost out of time, God's will. We feel like brought us to do this podcast, right? But it's not easy. I mean, we all have other things we're doing. It's work. I mean, we study. And we're not complaining except me, everyone.

So, I mean, as soon as we end, sometimes my head just goes down and hits the table. So I got to get some sleep. He is doing another show. All right, we're out of time here, but I want to get a couple more of those verses you didn't get to, Jason, the overtime. We got a little bit of overtime. Remember, those of you who haven't done it, but would like to, it's blazedv. You subscribe there. You're going to get not only our overtime, but you get everything Blaze has to offer and support the group that allows us to have this platform.

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