Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 48 | One-Eyed, One-Armed Phil; John the Baptist Part 2; and Whose Idea Was Water Baptism?

Episode Date: January 26, 2020

Phil gives a report on all his ailments. Jase covers more about John the Baptist and gives scripture on whether baptism is man’s idea or God’s.  See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? I wanted to say there's a lot of people that I get emails and notes. I don't know, the last couple of podcasts ago, I was mentioning all our ailments. So I've been getting a lot of notes from our listeners and viewers, you know, asking about our health, mainly me and dad. I guess, Chase, you were.

I'm feeling pretty good. You're in pretty good days. I'm in my prime. So look, shingles are gone. I told you I had shingles last time, basically treated it with steroids, you know, which, by the way, I mean, I know steroids are kind of like a negative because I guess people abuse them and I know sports is a big deal, but I'm like at 55 steroids are a good thing. I mean, you talk about help you get better. Like, I mean, my head was on fire and I started taking steroids and that was the end of that. It just stopped.

And then they, you know, heal up on their own. I'm a steroid guy. I love arguing with Sa about it, you know, because he's like, hey, them steroids, they don't help you hit a baseball, you know. It's like, Sa, it's a proven fact. It makes you stronger. You hit a ball further. He's like, no. It does not affect, it's a really good argument.

Do yourself. Well, obviously, I'm assuming that the biggest thing about steroids is because they help you heal faster. So these guys that are athletes, and I mean, you're just. They tear their bodies down, you know, on a consistent basis to build it up and make it bigger. But some of those guys in the- So I guess the steroids are helping them do that, which gives them an advantage. And the steroids heyday, though, these guys, they just blew up. I'm like, remember the year when McGuire and Bollings were hitting all the home runs?

I'm like, they look bigger. Well, guess what? They're hitting the ball further. I mean, it just seemed like, you know, I know, I guess they both denied it or whatever. You have to understand, when you get my age, on tearing the body down. I make a quick reach. First, I get out the evening before.

Yeah, this was the other thing we talked about. Where they come along, and I'm come alonging a heavy plate that's covering a 48-inch pipe, water pressing against it. I lift that plate, and it's all I can do, I didn't have any help that day, and I'm on that come along,

and it was very strenuous to get that plate finally raised, started out. Well, the next morning my gun was propped up on the shooting ports and it slips. It slips, but you have to watch your weapon. I made a quick left to right movement to catch that gun falling. When I did, I tore, literally tore, you know, yeah, it's a bicept, meaning there's two biceps, muscles tied right above the elbow to your shoulder. Right. well, I rip one of those out. Yeah, we saw.

Yeah, we showed it to everyone. I've had trouble getting that image out of my head, as have others. The update on that is we had a few, you know, we took some videos of it, and we sent it to some guys, some shoulder hand and arm specialist. And he basically said, he basically said we can tie that back together, but you need to do that quickly if you want to do that. we can surgically tie that muscle back. Which is what we were telling you.

Are you going to do that? Or he said, are you feeling any ill effects? And are you still able to raise your gun and fire it at a duck? So I thought, no problem. I'm rocking on like it never happened. You're just going with it. Who's going on? I just look down at it now.

I said, boy, what a muscle on that left hand side. Kind of ball up a little bit. But you say, so what are you going to do? I'm going to do absolutely nothing. while I'm there, you say, take the steroids. You say, are you in taking any pill, capsule? Look here. Zero.

I take no capsule. So I'm 73. I'm taking no capsules to do whatever they say it's going to do or won't do or will do. I think that's commendable. Hey. Go for it. You've always had a lot.

I have no regimen of medicine on none whatsoever. I tore my bice up. Somebody says, okay, what, the world didn't end. It all got, it looked, it looked rough. You know, it turned blue, green. I mean, it was some strange, looking colors. Move locations. What's amazing to me is that you could do that by just reaching.

He said it, though. He strained it, I bet. I think that's what kicked it off. You strained it the day before, and you had it set up to tear. That's what happened. But it means, bye, now I have what, Uno, whatever. I have one left, but you say, is it? Unicep.

Unicep. So I got one left. So I'm here by the cataract on one of my eyes. They're going to take that out in the next about a week. I said, get that cataract out. Can I see better if you'll do that? They said, oh, you'll see way better. I'm like, take that out.

So here I am a one-eyed at the time and one-armed man still standing firm with the young bucks like Jason, the duck blind. We actually shot pretty well today for one-arm in the last. One arm and one eye. I mean, you know. There was a gadwall that came in there early this morning, and it was boom. It was hard to see him. And he just spiraling away.

I thought, well, he's gone. And then OPR there, boom. Brought him down. One arm, one eye, got a bowl. And I didn't say a word. He just folded about 80. I knew he shot him. Then I waited for Cy to say, well, boys, but Cy said, I never saw him.

So I thought, well, he's out. Well, so anyway, the point. is thanks to all you that are concerned about me and dad, apparently I went the route of treatment. Dad's going to forego. You can function without peels. I have proven it. I think that's a noble thing, especially in our country.

Still alive. Still alive. That's right. And one arm, I guess now. So hopefully something, they'll all mighty will grow up. Duck season is a grind. We're down to one week.

We're down to the last week. So my hands are cracking open and that kind of stuff. but overall it's been, you know, fairly bland for me as far as injuries. Yeah, usually by this stage, you've got something. I did the other day we had a brush issue, and so I would have to, in order to shoot, I would have to kind of contort like a one of these xylophones. Weave your way through the thicket.

I would shoot like from a squatted position, and it was, you know, it was just hammering my back. that's all I could do. It's hard to shoot like when you're trying to compress yourself. No, that's not good. Duck cutting every day, it's quite taxing on the body. And the older you get. And I have to say, we do it, I mean, the setup that mostly dad, but then also Jason

Jay have had for us is we do it about as well as you can do it. I mean, when we were younger, we had to walk miles. I mean, there were a lot, it was a lot harder. I'm still walking. They, you know, I, because look, if the boat has to be hidden or we have to park the machines or what, the side and feel, they hadn't walked in years. The young bucks, the young bucks are there,

decoy technicians, we call them, where they feel better about their work. I mean, I probably walk at least a mile to two miles per day, just chasing ducks down or scouting. Well, in Stone, he got himself in such good shape. He's circling the property every day. See, early in the year, he was ragging me a little bit because we'd walk a mile because we usually have two boats. And when we got back to the blind, I was doing a little huffing and puffing.

Not that I was like, oh, I'm tired. But, you know, I'm like, whew. You're 50 years old. And, of course, he's, you know, Mr. Boxer now. And so he's not huffing and puffing. But I notice like today, because, you know, in everything, it turns into a competition. You know, we're both walking back. I was walking as fast as I could in water and mud.

And so was he. and we were going at the same pace. And when we got to the blind, I'm just like I am right now. And he was too. He's like, yeah, I'm in better shape than you. He made some comment. I was like, I'm not huffing and puffing. And he's like, yeah, but I was faster.

I was like, no, you wasn't faster. We arrived at the same time. But, you know, I could tell he's just in the habit of everybody he has any kind of competition with. See, 20, 25 years ago, I was 50. well I was the one doing all the walking around China sure but but you know now you get on up and there about said me something you're like okay boys so now you just brag on them when they're competing as to how fast they can get back they're good retrievers they have something that a dog does not have that is a shotgun in their hand so if the cripple gets away they can boom shoot him a dog can't do

that right so I'd rather have a younger man retrieving than a dog they're better than a dog they're better because you can say, hey, over on your right. They mind a lot better. Go your left. They'll go left. Yeah, a dog. Tell you, dog, he'll whimper, whine. I've been saying they don't whimper as much either, which is kind of nice.

So just since we're at the end of duck season, I want to culminate sort of what we, you know, the whole start of the season, it was blue versus, what's a biggin? Biggin. Everybody has trouble pronouncing my dog's name. Just bigin. Biggin. B-I-G. Biggin made the cut. So let the audience know.

I want to know because it was sort of like a competition when we first started talking about this. I was shocked. I mean, Phil could say, because, you know, I'm biased. How many days did Biggin hunt? He's hunted, I would say, probably 10 to 12 days. And we still have a few days left. So I'll probably take him tomorrow. Today I left my front seat, my front seat, my front door opened because I was.

getting stuff in and so when I got in my truck you know something scared me and my dog had jumped I actually forgot about it I laid him out you know to do his business and he had jumped in my front seat while I had my back turn ready to go and was behind my seat just being real quiet and still he was basically trying to hide so it told me he was he wanted to go that's good so he was going to stay away to our deal is both of our dogs are really really high-powered fills makes more racket than mine he wines more but he's a little better as far as chasing his older more experience but my dog you know what he's in the same line he wimpers some and i mean we're trying to do things to combat it but they're just so filled with

fire yeah that once he got a taste of it he is he doesn't want to sit there and wait he's like High strong. I'm going to tell you a story. This happened a couple days ago. I take him fishing because I'm trying to get him to sit there while I fish at Willie's pond secretly. Yeah, don't tell Willie. I'm catching Willie's crappy.

And I try to make the dog sit there. And, of course, he wants to retrieve the fish. But I'm trying to teach him, nope, sometimes in life you've got to sit there and shut up and watch me fish. And so that's what I do. But the other day we're sitting there, and I'm catching fish. and all of a sudden he just tears off. Run.

I'm saying here, no. He goes halfway down the pond, jumps in. Goes out there. I'm like, this dog is gone crazy. When he comes back, he had a tennis ball that had been out there for years. It wasn't like a bright yellow tennis ball. He brought that tennis ball and set it down and sat down. I thought, what do you do there?

I was like, you were so perfect. He thought he was supposed to do it. I was like, good job, buddy. So then I made him sit there. I catch a couple more fish. Look, bomp, here he goes again, takes off, goes to the other end of the pond and come back, and he had an old, like, yellow kind of Nerf ball.

And I'm like, this dog is sitting there. I mean, that pond is a big pond. Yeah, huge. And he thinks his role is to get any ball. Just bring something. Bring something back. I just thought I'd share that. I don't know what it means,

but I couldn't get on to him because I thought he's saying, so now I realize why he's whining, is because when we have those decoys out there, I think he's thinking, let me out, I see him. Let me go get him. I don't think he's made the distinction

between those decoys are not real. Using your terminology, Biggin has not yet learned, you know, that he's not. not carrying himself a full stringer of fish. He's a few fish shy of a stringer. What does that mean?

Like your dog, your dog, if your dog had ability. My dog doesn't go out and bring me back, you know, tennis balls, no. Your dog howls when we bought a duck call. That is not normal. No, it's not. Because, look, Phil's dog wants to get involved, so we'll go, can, can, can't, can't, can't, well then all of a sudden, ooh, ooh. I'm like, it's defeated.

He's saying, and dog lang was turning me. loose I am ready to get it but there's no ducks have. But I'm looking around like this is defeating the purpose. We're calling and the other day when I was away from the blind I was doing something. I could barely hear Phil and Jay calling, but I could hear that dog. Oh, coming across the water. I do appreciate Dad keeping his insult of your dog in the context of the fishing. That was pretty good.

I just think it's weird that everybody thinks their dog is the best. That's right. That's right. It's a dilemma. That's because it's your dog. And then duck calling, you know what? Everybody thinks they're the best. So Dan's not the best.

Too high strong. Dan sent me a video of son of blue because, you know, he sired some puppies with Gimber, our cousin's dog. And it looked like a mini blue. Like he's whimpering and whining. I was like, oh, my goodness. It's just going to the next generation. What's my question?

Like father, like son. He's high. You have blue. Why would it occur to you to try that again? Because I thought if we had a little. white female, you would cut that gene pool a little bit with the quiet female. Still have high strong, but maybe take out the... That's what I was thinking.

We may need a few more generations. No, it didn't work. Too strong. His offspring is like he is. They make a nice yard dog for someone. That's right. We'll see. We'll give him a try.

So anyway, I thought we'd update you on that since we're at the end of the season. A lot of you've asked about it. So now you know. So we've been talking about the book of John. I'm hoping you guys are reading along with us and checking it out. Of course, you can read slow because, you know, we go slow where there's so much good stuff to talk about. I mean, John, look, is literally,

you could go verse by verse and spend days. I mean, any book that ends saying, if we wrote about everything, there would not be enough books in the world to contain what happened. I recommend to every person I've ever converted when they say, where do I start? I should start with the book of your job. John.

Me too. You read that because it tells you who Jesus is. I said, read the book of John. And I usually say, then the book of Acts. What was the message? And how did they respond to it? Read John and the book of Acts. A lot of people that Bible mission groups that they can't do the whole Bible to get into,

in the old days, especially illegal places for the Bible, you could only get something small in. They would do the book of John. Jesus is the point. I mean, you, a lot of, we're, you know, in religion in our, in America, it's so tied to what you do on Sunday morning, which it's really hurt the actual relational concept of the Bible, which is that he's a being.

These are letters about someone. It leads you to someone. And so people have had so many bad religious experiences. A lot of people, I mean, you're raised in the church, whatever you're raised in. But at some point, you've got to read, Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John, and say, what do I think about Jesus? Yeah.

This is how... That is what we're trying to do. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God. Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. It's simple. John, the Apostle wrote that in 1 John chapter 4. You read that, you say, who I better get on straight who Jesus is, God in flesh.

Don't forget that because you'll lose your soul over that. We talked about last time John the Baptist being a witness to the light, which, you know, his beginning was unusual, supernatural. Jesus came from a virgin, but John the Baptist came from a barren woman. Yep. And he had the Holy Spirit from birth, and we were talking about all those, you know, the things that he eventually did, which one of the things he did, he was really tough on sin, which cost him his life.

Yeah. But, you know, what I wanted to bring up is, you know, in verse 10 of John 1, right after he talked about John the Baptist, it says this about Jesus, and this is the reason we're in the book of John, and the reason we say you need to read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and see who Jesus is for yourself. It says he was in the world, and though the world was made through him, What a statement.

The world did not recognize it. And even today, people put Jesus in a category. But everybody has an opinion. He's either Lord, which is what we say. He is Lord. The verse, Romans 10, 9, I guess is probably one of the most famous salvation verses that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord. And believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,

you'll be saved. well that's why you read matthew mark luc or john because you you say you form an opinion you say do i want him as lord of my life or is he an imposter or was he just some guy that people made stories up about or is this just all not real but everybody forms an opinion because if jesus is real and he is lord well now we've got two categories you're either in on the benefits or you're out for the consequences. The one that made the cosmos, you say, if you could make a cosmos at a word, and you read Genesis chapter one on how it got here in the beginning God, Father's son, Jesus, and Holy Spirit, long before he becomes flesh, you say, well, why would he wait that long

become flesh? Because you can't kill someone who speaks a cosmos into existence. You're not going to be able to kill that ever. However, what if he became a human, you could get your hands on him so that you could kill him, not knowing that his death would save the world. Is that a, just think about how profound that is, Al, on the way he could die, it's become a human. That's why one of the reasons he became flesh. Okay, I'm here. I'm the exact representation of my father, on the earth, never makes a mistake, and they kill him anyway. And his final words was, forgive them. They don't know what they're doing.

They don't realize, well, what's going on here. You know, they can kill me, but I'm going to show them that I have the power to make things from nothing and raising the dead is a snap with me. Three days later, he stands back up on the earth, and everybody goes, whoa, you know, dying Thomas fall down. He said, my Lord and my God, how? And the world does you ever pull it? You just beat death. Yeah. Well, and really it turned to the biggest. That's the reason we follow Jesus. We read the story and say, who-hoo. It turned into the biggest travesty of justice in the history of mankind. That's it. Because he never did anything wrong. No. Which goes to show you people that

that are done wrong, it's never going to be as bad as what happened here. That's right. Because he didn't do anything wrong. He lived 33 years, never made a mistake, and was the result of capital punishment in a gruesome way. And John 8th, it comes up, and he asked him a simple question. When he said, if you hold him by teaching, then you'll be my, really be my disciples, because you'll know the truth. The truth sets you free. They said, we're not slaves, anyone. And they had said they believed in him. But when he got right down to it, he said, you're trying to kill me. That's what you, that's what you want to do because you belong to your father. And he was a murderer from the beginning.

Yeah. He said, can anyone of you prove me guilty of sin? Where'd I go wrong? They just stood there looking at him, wanting to kill him anyway. They couldn't prove him guilty of sin because it committed no sin. Right. They belonged to the devil. That's why eventually they did slaughter him.

Sure. I used to use that point when I did that prison ministry for two years because they would, some of them would be like, this is, injustice and they were so bitter and I was like wasn't bad as what happened to Jesus no what are you talking about I mean I didn't do anything I was like yeah but at some point you did something wrong

I mean you wound up here I mean Jesus never did anything and they killed him it'd be the equivalent of you going to the electric chair and you never made a mistake you know but they would be so filled with anger bitterness or denial or a lot of times they were just ball face line you know I mean

but that I think that's interesting from that perspective they didn't really have anything to say about that. I was like, no matter what, the reason this is blocking you from now surrendering to Jesus, he came back from it pretty good. So we talked about in Matthew Mark, Luke, there's sort of those gospels, they lay out the setting for who John the Baptist was. He's related to Jesus.

They're the same age because their mothers were pregnant at the same time. That's six months apart. Just a little older, John the Baptist is a little bit older. But imagine the setting. So he's here. So John the Baptist at some point, I mean, he was different. He was set aside. We don't know exactly when he started.

But he's got some disciples. He's out there preaching and he's got people following him. And he's doing something that, and we've talked about this before, Dad, that no one has ever done before in recorded biblical history. He's baptizing people. A baptism, like you said, of repentance. Of repentance. That's what he called it.

Which is, I think I'm glad you brought it up because, you know, now, if you read Romans 6, because people ask, well, what exactly is baptism? In Romans 6, I like the analogy that Paul writes of you reenacting Jesus' death, barrel, and resurrection. Right. Well, Jesus, before he died and was buried and raised, you couldn't reenact his death, barrel, and resurrection. and then baptism because he hadn't died. Amen. So people, when they start getting into discussions about baptism

or whether how important is it or should you do it and people, they'll go to like the thief on the cross and they'll be like, well, he wasn't baptized. You know, Jesus knew his heart, but they're missing a concept there. And Paul explained it in Roman 6th of how you reenact that. Well, John, here he was before Jesus. he had the same act which is being, you know, baptism means immersed, immersing people in water, but then he had a different message saying, you do this, in repentance, and you believe in the one that's coming.

Which is. Which remember, his purpose was to point to Christ. He says that in the text. And they would not receive the Holy Spirit, the ones who were being baptized by John, because as we. we'll get into John 7. Whoever believes in me, as the scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him. By this, he meant the spirit,

and everyone needs to understand this, the ones who were baptized by John, by this he meant the spirit whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time, the spirit had not been given, made available for everybody,

since Jesus had not yet been glorified. So pre-death burial, resurrection, ascension by Jesus, the spirit wasn't given to people who were baptized. As soon as Jesus died, was buried and raised from the dead. Peter gets up, the same Peter is preaching the same thing, John, except now there's a difference when they say, what do we do, repent and be baptized,

and you'll receive God's spirit. Now he's available from Acts 2 on, the, you know, with all the hurricane and the fire coming off the apostles head. Big day. You know, what makes me think is, what if you were caught in the middle? And, you know, there's one story, and I know you are familiar with it. I just thought I'd bring it up and let our listeners. Well, read that.

What is it, Matthew 17, 19? No, I was going to bring up the X-19 where they ran up on some people who were in, what would you call that space? You were in between John's baptism and Jesus's death, bell and resurrection. Well, then it happens. But you didn't know that. So you had a couple, Priscilla and Aquila going around, you know, sharing Jesus.

Now, we're, we fast forward and now into Acts, Jesus has come out of the grave. The Holy Spirit came down, what you shared. It's now available. Peter unlocked the keys at the gate, you know, sharing Jesus. and people responded, the spirit can now be received. And in Acts 1824, there was a Jew named Apollus. He came to Ephesus, and here's what's interesting. It gives five qualities about him.

He was a learned man. He had a thorough knowledge of the scriptures. He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor. And here's the kicker. and he taught about Jesus accurately. Well, if you just stopped right there, you'd say, this guy's got it.

I mean, what else do you need? And then it says, though he only knew the baptism of John. So when he began to speak boldly in the synagogue, Priscilla and Aquila heard him, and they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately. So evidently,

They're being nice about it. Well, he's got everything down, and this guy's a believer, and I believe he saved. He just didn't realize that we have something else besides John's baptism when it gets to baptism. So they heard him speak, and they said, let me explain something to you. Now, it doesn't really say what happened to him, but when it gets to chapter 19, it talks about Apollos was at Corinth. Well, they run up on some more people. Same deal. Paul took the road through the interrant and arrived at Ephesus.

There he found some disciples and asked them, did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed? Well, they answered, no. This is kind of a funny answer. They said, we haven't even heard of a Holy Spirit. It's like you walk into a church building and say, you know, do you all have the Holy Spirit of God? And they're like, we haven't even heard there is a Spirit of God.

I'm going to take that as a no. So Paul asked, well, what baptism did you receive? Well, here's the guy we're talking about, because that's the section we're in, the forerunner of Jesus. They said, John's baptism. What was John's baptism? It was a baptism. You didn't receive God's spirit.

You just said, I'm going to repent, change my life, because God is sending somebody who's going to be the Messiah, which is Jesus Christ. Yep. So John's baptism they're able to provide. Now, here's what I like. Paul said John's baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him.

That is in Jesus. On hearing this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. And then, you know, his message was confirmed because then he placed his hands on them and then the Holy Spirit, you know, gave him the ability to do miracles. So my point is, you know, one thing is like when people,

I've used that in a practical way, y'all may totally disagree with this. This is my opinion. if somebody ever comes to me and they've been baptized and I'm putting that for those listing in quotation marks and they didn't really understand Jesus I'll share Jesus again I'll talk about the Holy Spirit

and they want to be baptized again once again in quotation marks because I'm saying that because in Ephesians 4 what is that 4 4 4 it says there's one baptism well we seemingly have two here we had John's baptism, which we do have two in this context, but now John the Baptist, he was so long ago, we only have one now.

We don't have John's baptism because we have Jesus. We now understand that why a person, that's why I brought up Roman 6. And I know I've talked a lot and we've kind of rambled here. But John the Baptist baptism was pre-Gospital, meaning his literal death, barrel, and resurrection. I realize there's 150,000, arguments about baptism today.

But look, you have to do something with this issue because it was an issue that was addressed. And John the Baptist, which was God's idea, he said, hey, you go baptize people in repentance, telling them believe in the one coming. Well, after it was over, the baptism that Peter introduced in Acts 2 seemed like to be a little, it seemed different because he said, you know, they said, what do we do?

You will receive God's prayer. He hadn't be baptized. He had the same repentance, but then he added something when he said, you'll receive forgiveness of sins, just like John, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. So we're looking at it from the perspective of people. I mean, what about this baptism? Why was it different? How is it different?

Here's the interesting thing that the Apostle John does. In John, the Baptist's own words, he's going to give you John. perspective about why he was baptized to people and it was different. Look at this. So in John 1, we talked about this last time on the podcast, starting in verse 19. Basically, they're questioning John the bat, who are you? You know, are you Elijah?

Are you Jesus? He's like, no, no, no, are you the prophet? No, no, no. So then the Pharisees say, in verse 24, they question, they said, why do you baptize if you're not Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet? it. In other words, why are you doing this then? You're standing here to dunk of people in water. We don't get it. Here's what he says. I baptize with water, but among you stands one you do not know. He is the one who comes after me, the thongs of whose sandals I'm unworthy to untie. Or I'm not worthy to untie.

So he's telling them something's coming, right? So now look what he says in verse 29. Here's John's perspective on why he was baptizing people. This is pretty fascinating. A lot of people, people miss this. The next day, John saw Jesus coming toward it. And remember, their cousins, they grew up, they knew each other. Obviously, he knows the kind of guy he is. I don't have time to get into it today. When you go and look at when John baptized Jesus, incredible, look, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Just think about that statement. His image, you know, if you close your eyes and picture Jesus, a lot of people's mind goes blank. but if you you saw his image he saw a lamb of God a lamb being sacrificed for the sins of the world

I think I love that I do too I'm going to talk a lot about that in my sermon so anyway says this is the one I meant when I said a man who comes after me he's like that's the one remember the guy I was telling me about all this other so then look at this verse here's the one 31 I myself did not know him now he knew him they're related there can He knew him, but he didn't know he was the one. That's correct. Then he says, I didn't know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel. And then he gives his testimony.

When he baptized Jesus is what he's talking about. I saw the spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. I would not have known him except that the one who sent me to baptize the water told me the man on whom you see the spirit come down and remain. he will baptize with the Holy Spirit. I've seen, I testify this is the Son of God. So from John's perspective, he was told by God. The reason he was down there baptizing people is because God said, I want you to go down there and baptize people.

And I want you to, you know, that's what he told him. And he said, and look, one of them you're going to baptize. Going to be something big. Something big is going to happen. Yep. So when you go back and read the gospel account in Matthew, Mark, Mark, or Luke, you see that John's reluctant to baptize Jesus. I mean, he knows that he's a really good person.

He said, you need to be baptized at me. Well, of course. I mean, but he still doesn't know he's the Messiah, but he knows he's a really good dude. That's correct. And Jesus is like, no, all the pastures have to be fulfilled. You're going to baptize me. Jesus knew what was going to happen. To fulfill all righteousness.

So I think it was an act of humility. It goes in with Philippians, too. Jesus was humming himself to the Father's will, which he is the Father, which gets complicated. But he was still surrendering to the overall. God had thrust of that, we're going to surrender through grace and love for you, for your sin. And to reveal who he was. And it is interesting that when he was baptized Jesus by John, when the Spirit came upon him, that's the same time the Spirit comes on anyone who's baptized. Well, I made that point before, you know, the Holy Spirit was hovering over the waters in the

beginning of creation. And I've said that before, I think it still hovers over the waters. It was when he was identified as the son of God and it's when we're identified as a son or daughter of God. Well, think about, think about that's pretty pretty pretty pretty. Think about the weight of the moment in human history. As far as I know from we're reading the Bible, it's the only time in history where we see God the father because he speaks. This is my son, whom I am well pleased. voice booms out. And the son who's there and the Holy Spirit. It's the only time we see a physical manifestation of all of God in one place was when that

was in. I think where the problems come in in the religious world is a lot of... We shouldn't mess with baptism. We should just go to the river. Well, I'm trying to say here's where the arguments came in is you have to make this statement. Jesus Christ, the son of God, that you must acknowledge like you read earlier or you are and anti-Jesus, which would be really bad, is what saves us. Who saves us because of his death on a cross and his resurrection?

I brought up the Romans 6 because Paul wrote it up, it brought it up, full of the Holy Spirit, saying, let me tell you why you shouldn't go out there and just sin it up so that that blood will increase. When you find out you're saved by his grace. That's right. When you hear that and you acknowledge Jesus, and we're going to. read the Romans 10, 9, you're saying, Jesus is Lord. Yes, that's who I'm putting my trust in, and his salvation comes to me. Yes, at that acknowledgement. But there's also a surrendering

that happens where I think a lot of people in the religious world, they were confused thinking that somehow when you say you're baptized that you're doing some kind of work and earning your salvation. And to me, it's just the opposite. It's that same humility that Jesus showed when he was baptized. He certainly didn't have any sin. No, he didn't have any sin at all. But he was a surrendering spirit to the overall mission of saving us. And we're surrendering ourselves to Jesus.

And you read that Romans 6, I think it's a beautiful analogy, just that you put your faith and trust in what saves you, which is his death and his burial and his resurrection. you in essence go through the same process spiritually. You die, your old self, you're buried, and then all of a sudden we're back to that Acts 2, Peter, you're receiving God's spirit. Without God's spirit, you know what you can do?

Nothing good. That's why the Apostle Paul identifies that point in time as obeying the gospel. I'd like to read something that's an obscure passage, and I know you are familiar with it, but in Matthew 21, when Jesus' authority was questioned, he came up with a very unique way to answer that. But he used John's baptism, which I think is interesting. But Jesus entered the courts, and while he was teaching the chief priest and the elders of the people came to him, they said, by what authority are you doing these things, which is eventually what caused Jesus' life?

Because they're like, you don't have any authority. And Jesus replied, I will also ask you one question. If you answer me, I will tell you by what authority I'm doing these things. He says in verse 25 of chapter 21, John's baptism, where did it come from? Was it from heaven or from men? And look, I've asked this question to people and study. That's a good question today. Oh, it is an awesome question because that's what we're sitting here discussing.

What was the purpose of that and how does it tie in? Where did it come from? Yeah, where'd it come from? They disgusted among themselves and said, well, if we say from heaven, he will ask, well, then why didn't you do it? Why didn't you believe him? Yeah. But if we say from men, we're afraid of the people, for they all think John was a prophet. So they answer to Jesus, we just don't know.

They're lying. I love this. I mean, it's one of my favorite moments, and Jesus said, okay well then neither will i tell you by what authority i'm doing these things by the way you mentioned that word authority he said by the authority i'm doing these things because you asked me who gave me the authority to do that so look if you go all the way to the end of matthew the authority issue comes up again because matthew 28 watch all authority Now, he's just been raised from the dead.

He's standing there talking with him, and they're thinking, what in the world? Because some doubted Matthew 28, 17. When they saw him, they worshipped him, but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, he goes back to the fig tree. Remember when I asked him, where did Walter Baptism come from? And they were like, well, yeah, yeah, we don't know. He says, well, let me clear it up for you.

I'm standing here. I just died and I'm standing here alive. Therefore, all authority, whether it's within a fig tree, are being raised from the dead. All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. And the question he asked him, where did what a baptism come from? Watch. Verse 19, therefore, since he has all the authority, go and make disciples of all nations. And the very thing they said they didn't know where it came from, he said, and you baptize them. The name of the father, son, Holy Spirit. Well, that's game set match there. But I like it how he says you baptize him in the name of the father and the son, the Holy Spirit, which goes back to when Jesus is baptism of those three things working. You had the father saying, this is my son whom I love and I'm well pleased. You had Jesus surrendering,

which he became a man. Spirit in the form of a dove. And then you have the Holy Spirit coming. I mean, it's an awesome, you know, what? foundation for what we would get to experience. That's why I tell people, whenever they want to argue about baptism, whatever, I'm like, you fall in love with Jesus, and you'll figure it out. But when you do, you won't say, well, I wonder if I are to do this. Or when you figure it out, oh, you'll run. You'll say, what an opportunity.

By the way, Jay, a lot of them have asked to me, say, is there a difference between how come y'all say sometime we'll baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, the Holy Spirit? And sometimes you say, we'll baptize you in the name of Jesus. I said, either one is fine with me, Al. I don't argue the point. Well, can I read a verse about that? Yeah, you can read one. Because people say, well, you're wrong baptism,

because you baptize them in the name of God, the Father, Jesus, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I'm like, do what? I had somebody tell me that, too. They said, well, you've got to do it in Jesus. Where are you going? Colossians 2, 9. For in Christ, listen to this.

For in Christ, Colossians 2 9, all the fullness of the deeusons of the deusis. lives in bodily form. Baptize them in the name of Jesus. That's fine of me. Whether you say in the name of Jesus, that includes the father and son and the Holy Spirit, because I just read it in Colossus 2-9,

or whether you say the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. You know, our problem is humans is we try to get God how big he is in our little brain. It just doesn't work. And if it did, then he wouldn't be God. Well, I've got another one for you. the words you say and speak over a person or at that moment, doesn't matter Hill of Beans for anything.

That's right. The reason they're standing there is because he's been convicted, yeah, to Jesus. And he's not doing a work. He's surrendering himself to the good news of Jesus, which is what's saying. And you just ask him the question to confess with his mouth, Jesus is Lord, and he does so. And you say, okay. That's the most important thing that said in that moment.

It's his baptism, not your wordy. I said, it's never about the baptizer, it's about the baptize E, because they're the ones that are submitting themselves to Christ. Oh, it just fries my bacon when religious people get so hung up on the process, they miss the point. This person is falling in love with Jesus, and we want to start arguing about the kind of process that's going to happen and when that happens. So we don't want to fry Jesus's bacon, so I guess we better stop. But I do like bacon. Yeah, I do too. So a lot of questions, you guys, I've got a lot of questions about baptism.

from you guys through our and by the way we encourage you send your questions in as you can see most of it works out when we get to the text anyway so i may not be reading your exact question but several of you've asked me about that and today we had a very good discussion and we're going to need a part three on john the baptist just because i think you got another part i i i made profound statements okay look you could so we're not done with jy the best well i didn't even i want i had that in my back of my mind he made like five profound statements that are like bumper stickers for that time? I talked to a lawyer one time and he said, Phil, and I was studying with his stepdad or whatever,

his dad-in-law. And he'd gotten out of AA and I preached the gospel to him. He said, Phil, I never even understood that. I said, well, and I gave him some baptism text that we went down there and I baptized him. Well, the guy who brought me to study with this, brought the guy for me to study with, he's a lawyer. And when he saw me baptize him, he said, Phil, My pastor never said anything about baptism. I said, well, I said, you're a lawyer, right?

Well-trained lawyer, high-paid lawyer. I said, read all the text about baptism. Just read them, get back with me. Well, a week later, he comes running up to him. He said, Phil, baptism is mandatory. I said, out of the words of a lawyer, I said, right out of your mouth. I said, well, the more you talk, you might ought to follow your stepdad there. But anyway, but I don't know whether he ever did or not, but I just told him, I said, just read the text, man, and get back with me.

And he said, I read them. It's manned. We still always believe if people don't understand. You have to understand Jesus first. That's right. Jesus is what saves you. You're never going to understand baptism if you don't understand Jesus. That's correct. You're going to miss that.

And the gospel. Because if you're just baptizing people without Jesus, they're just getting wet. It's about that. Let's set up a road black and just start dunking people. I didn't work. That didn't work. All right. So apparently we're going to have a little more on John the Baptist, a little teaser for next time.

Jason has some statements we've got to talk about. So we'll see you next time on Unashamed. We are so glad you're watching and listening to the Unashamed podcast. Be sure to like us on Facebook, subscribe on YouTube and iTunes. That's going to keep you up today with all the new episodes. And it's also going to let other people find out about our podcast. So keep spreading the word and watching and listening to Unashamed with Phil Roberts. Thank you.