Unashamed with the Robertson Family - EP 480 | Phil Issues Dire Warning About American Schools & Miss Kay's Beater Had a Crazy Quirk

Episode Date: May 18, 2022

Jase realizes how difficult it is to entertain today's youth, because they have an entire world of entertainment in their cell phones and nothing seems to impress them. Phil says it is time for Americ...ans to consider homeschooling their children, and Al takes a look at the etymology of the word "ambassador." Phil reflects on the past, from his favorite old fishing reel brands to party line telephones and the mean old women who would hog the line. And Al remembers Miss Kay's old car that had a rusted-out floor that let you watch the road pass by or, as Jase put it, "the open floor spitoon." Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://blazetv.com/unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Yeah, I mean, it was like it was, it was cool, it was nice, and then like the next day it was summer. We just missed spring. Yeah, just, it was terrible. I mean, Phil caught the ops, but that was only a couple weeks. Usually it lasts longer than that. I've got one net at an old set, it all rhymes, which is assured. bet one net with an old set is a sure bet one net old set meaning i dropped the truck head with a rope tied on it nylon doesn't rot how many years ago thank the almighty that whoever developed by nylon
Starting point is 00:00:46 it crossed a great threshold i remember when we didn't have nylon did it has does it have three strands or two three strands you know where they got that idea don't you ecclesiastic yeah yeah So I just go out there and I check it. It's just a sure bet. I know I'm going to have them. The question is just how many, but I raised my little net up. That's about a net about like that, not real big.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Looks like about a hula hoop. About three feet. And I felt them surge a little bit. I felt like my toe down. I said, Dan, this thing is loaded. He said, we think? I think so. So is Dan your muscle or?
Starting point is 00:01:29 Did you, or are you doing it still? I know, Dan, just watching, he's, he's spurring me on. He said, he said, I hope I have muscles like that when I'm your age. I said, well. Man, he's doing to you what you used to do to us. Yeah, but Al, if you don't, it doesn't matter how many muscles you have. If you don't know the technique. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Of raising a hoop nap, it's all about it. You will literally bust it apart. All in the technique. Yeah. All in the technique. But anyway, I looked down there when I got up and I could see what was in the net. Of course, I could tell back in the back, there was no, no scum or anything on the strings. That meant they're bumping. I could tell they had bumped it, kept it neck clean.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Well, I looked down in there and I counted them. I said, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I said, Dan, I have eight. Three of them are about 15 pounds apiece. That was 50 pounds on three of them. It about like that. Three feet long. I dumped them in the bottom of the boat. I hand picked two, three and a half, four-pounders. Perfect. And I said, perfect eaters. I said, get a hold, get on the phone, and see if you reach anybody that wants some Apaloo's cat.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Well, he didn't do that because if he'd call me, I'd have come got him. I told him. Get on the phone. Get on the phone. Get him. Chad Johnson, his phone wouldn't work. He called around. I said, I was pouring a little water when he was making a call.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I was pour a little water on him, keep him wet. you know. So I said, well, they go back to the river. They're in luck. That's the first time I've ever thrown opalusus catfish back in the water. Well, you told me that Saturday. I was in shock. I just, I was like, are we really living that well that we just turn ops back in the river?
Starting point is 00:03:15 I was like, you're talking about a charm life. I've been eating them avalusus. They're running in May. They're spawn in May. So that's why I'm catching so many. Their old set was always old faithful, one of the best sets. It's what I ever had. But I just said, well, I don't mind dressing them for someone else.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But, I mean, who can we give them to there, Dan? So we tried and made, try to get a hold of somebody. You did try. You made the attempt. But they didn't call you, did they? I just got them, and I just set them down outside the boat, and they just went on their way. In their way. I took the two, cleaned them.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I'm having them today. So now that's over. Yeah. We're finishing up on them two today. But you'll have a few more in there probably because this... I've already, I already have some more. Jayce, you might want to give the old damn to text and say. Yeah, there's some more.
Starting point is 00:04:06 You still got the net out? Yeah. Well, I may just go run it. Okay. We'll go run it. Because, I mean, when June gets here, it's over. Yeah. And it's so good to eat.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I mean, they really are a good tasting fish. Well, you know, when we were growing up, we talked about this on a previous podcast, we think about May as May Hall Month, but May was also the best time to catch Apalusus is catfish. And so really, the month of May, and you got out of school. So I don't know that there was a better month growing up than the month. That's when the fruit of the outdoors seemed to really come to fruition. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 The river is just right. Speaking of getting out of school, I had this weekend my last natural child that my wife and I have. She's graduating. You can't really say you have a broad range of children now. Well, we're trying to be the United Nations amongst. So, you know, it was a strange response because Missy seemed happy about it. You have African-American. Do you have Hispanic?
Starting point is 00:05:11 When you combine us all, yeah, we are the United Nations. So I... By the way, within our family structure, it's all of them. Asian. Asian. We pretty much got the world covered. Yeah. What I was going to say is, so we, I was a little bit, I got a little emotional about it because I thought, man, this is it.
Starting point is 00:05:32 This is, you know, Mia is graduating high school. She's going to college. Got a scholarship. I'm super proud of her. She's doing awesome. Had she got a scholarship? Brain power? Smart.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. And plays as many instruments, I guess, you know, I'm not sure the specifics of it, but I'm sure I should. know that but but yeah she's she's happy and proud so they had a graduation thing they did a little worship service and uh she plays the what the thing's called keyboard yeah the keyboard and that was awesome they kind of did it for the uh the youth there so and so then they had a parade i was like what was she asked me to drive her in the parade and so you remember the vehicle that i bought Missy The VW
Starting point is 00:06:24 In our little duck show What was that 10 years ago? Yeah It's been a while People probably thought Oh yeah That really didn't happen Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:06:30 I bought her a car I think it was for It was for her birthday Yeah Her birthday It was a birthday Well we still had that car Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's a VEAL Volkswagen yeah But a convertible right Yeah it's a convertible Yeah And Look I don't know
Starting point is 00:06:46 I think I paid 78000 for it And I've been People have asked they've offered me like up to 20 for it. And now. And I'm like, babe, no, we're not selling that car.
Starting point is 00:07:00 The only problem with it is if something goes wrong getting parts for it. Oh, yeah. That's difficult. What brand is it? It's a Volkswagen. German. Those Germans can build some cars now.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I used to own a Volkswagen. Yeah, Mom had one. Do you remember that old white one she had? Well, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Mom was there last night. And she's like, you know, I used to have one of the, I said, okay, I remember. She said, but it wasn't as nice as this.
Starting point is 00:07:28 The floor rusted out, so when you'd be driving, you'd see the road down going underneath. You wouldn't want to slip. You wouldn't want to have foot to go down. I know. We called it an open spit tune. That's right. But she turned in one time. She turned in tight, and somebody just went, you know, was hanging on that door out and then swung back.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Well, what's so funny is because Missy, you know, twice a year, they'll let the top down and ride around and convertible, you know, but in Louisiana, you're like in between the pollen and the bugs. I mean, right now, I don't know what these little black bugs are. They call them love bugs. They're usually. They're in love. They're everywhere. There's tens of thousands of them. They're mating from every conceivable angle.
Starting point is 00:08:21 One of your car just looks like a truck just as a black. This is where love ended for the... I mean, there's nothing you can do. That's right. There's some people, even in our world, that they can't even drive down the road. They wouldn't be able to drive down the road because they wouldn't want to, you know, kill a bug. Well, you can't live here then. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So if you put that top dad, you're going to have a mouth full of them. Yeah, so we had the parade. But I thought it was really good. I mean, the church members lined the streets up. I mean, you would think this is kind of like, I, I, I, I would think this is kind of like, I I heard BSA, you would think this is kind of juvenile, but this is so much fun. I mean, gee, I love that. So the graduate.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Everybody loves a parade. They sit on the, you know, like, they have their feet in the back seat if you had a convertible. Of course, some of them had the trailers. When the old days, Dad, that's what they did. In your day, that's what they did at my homecoming, right? Yeah. The gals would sit up on, they don't really do that anymore. I don't guess.
Starting point is 00:09:15 That's what they did for this. Yeah. And there was a lot of people there. And they were cheering. It just makes them. Because, you know, I had a buddy one time tell me. He's like, well, you never should celebrate your kid doing something that they were supposed to do. So I thought, that may be a little harsh.
Starting point is 00:09:35 That's right. They're supposed to graduate high school. Why are you celebrating? I'm like, so I'm somewhere in between the two. Yeah, you're supposed to do that. Do your job. Act like you've been there before. You think about it, though.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It is, and you're right, I mean, it's expected, but it's amazing accomplishment because you start to school. And nowadays, you're like, they start three or four years old into these preschools and all that. And, I mean, that's your whole life up until that point. But you know what I like? They celebrate you. I didn't go to my college celebration, but the whole bunch got food pulling them. And they said, how did you know to stay away from there? I said, I just had a feeling.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, but this. Dad, it's not hard for you to. stay away from it. Hey, this was God sanctioned. They had a service. They had a powerful message toward them. I mean, like, here's the six things you need to do. It's your next venture. And it was like carry your Bible. You know, I mean, it was all, focus on Jesus. I mean, that was number one. I loved everything about it. Then they gave them a Bible as a gift and a, and a devotional book. And the grand scheme of things, based on what's going on in these United States, I still say, I don't see the downside of portraying Jesus, following Jesus in every aspect of your life.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I don't see the downside. Love God. Love your neighbor. Where's the downside? Oh, you bunch of Bible thumpers. I'm like, yes, we are thumping our Bibles. We sure are. We get an information out of it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Love God. Love your neighbor, you know. But I like it when churches. You got lists of sin. We know what to stay away from and what to embrace. So I like it when churches take an active role. and transitions. Need more of it.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Of your life. And it was great. It was fun. You know, it's hard to please our young people. I mean, they're so addicted to their phones and all. It's just hard to do something that they think is fun. So it hit me on that. I thought, these people are all in their rooms, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:34 looking at their phones all the time. Just a little parade in the parking lot. It was fun. It was just so many people there. We were interacting. The very opposite. the very opposite of going around doing what y'all were doing and being mad. Most of these groups these days are all gathering together to show you how mad they are.
Starting point is 00:11:58 A lot of anger. What you saw were people who were. Joy. Being glad. Yeah, I know. You can have a whole culture full of the glad or a whole culture full of the mad. I would think people would say, let's go with the glad crowd. crowd you know what the one of the funny things i noticed give me up right is when i blew the horn on that
Starting point is 00:12:19 little bug it's like they made a horn that didn't want to hurt anybody's feelings you know most horns are like bhawn this one's like me me oh yeah oh yeah it's like the old roadrunner remember the roadrunner be running from my me me that's what it sounds like every time i'd blow it people just started laughing on both sides it was funny i thought are we doing this and then once you did it and got some last you just couldn't stop i blew that horn a hundred times people are so sensitive in our culture but i was going to say about the weather it was awesome night for it and uh but that's the time when it gets into summer which it's supposedly not summer yet yeah yeah but this here but right when that when that heat breaks well right it's so good because it was hot well i think it's uh contrary to what
Starting point is 00:13:06 you said your buddy said about you know you know that that's what they're supposed to do i don't see anything detrimental about giving credit to where it's due when a bunch of teenagers have finally graduated from high school, which these days, that's a good thing. Exactly. I think it's a... I think maybe that needs celebrating more in America there. You were talking about being addicted to the phone. Let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I heard an interesting discussion, so my youngest daughter is talking to her children, who we're always having to, you know, get off the device, you know, because, I mean, they're just like from young, young age. They know how to go place to this stuff on there. And so one of them was asking, because they got this end of year stuff, like everything, with them, it's a transition flight from, you know, to first grade or whatever. So there's this thing coming up. And so I was kind of hoping they would film it.
Starting point is 00:14:11 But so I hear Doc talking to his mama and he's like, can you film the whole thing? And she's like, no, absolutely not. She said, I'm sick of it. Every time I go to something, everybody's got their phones up, you can't even enjoy the moment. Yeah. Because everybody's filming the moment, and so you can't even see. And so it was interesting hearing her discussion.
Starting point is 00:14:29 This is a problem I never, I couldn't relate to. And she's like, we need to enjoy doing it. We're not going to spend the whole time. You're not going to win that argument with them. I know. She's trying, you know, to like keep them from being so addicted. So how are you going to, you're going to, you're going to, you're Y'all are the ones because it's not even us.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I mean, it's our kids. I'm looking at the level. Y'all are on. Y'all are my sons. Well, now that's the grandchildren come from them and the different varieties that y'all have adopted. So how do you keep from going down the slippery slope to embracing all this crap that you see our culture is throwing out of us? Well, it's a, I think it's a technical term. Yeah, I think that's a Greek term.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah. Well, I just think you, I mean, it sounded to me like, How are you going to educate? She's trying to fight the machine, but it's not easy. Well, they're all in Christian schools, all of our grandchildren through y'all. No, my, actually three of mine are in public school. Three in her Christian school and three are in public school. But, you know, around here, the public school system is still pretty solid and sound.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I don't know if that will always last, but, you know, it's not as bad, at least at the younger. And you have some in homeschool. I wouldn't send them to these indoctrination centers. Well, for sure, at the college level, you've got to be super careful. days because people send their kids off. If you're waiting on, I'm on what dad would think about this, I would say if it's a bunch of filth being put out there on third, fourth, fifth graders, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take them there.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I just wouldn't take them. Whatever it took, I would borrow the money if I had to, which y'all don't need to do that. Y'all have the ability to send them to where they're not inducted. That's why there's so many people homeschooling now, so. Which I get it. I mean, there's some, but again, a lot of it is what states you live in. I mean, which, by the way, that's the framers.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I would educate them at home before I should. sent them into this maze of... Well, it's depending on where you are of the sack, right? Of course, we got a lot of listeners out there. You're living in states. Some of these states, man, I mean, it'd be tough to be there. I don't know. I'm just kind of like, you know, live free or die.
Starting point is 00:16:29 You know, we had a family move here from New Jersey, and they were just like, we were tired of being under tyranny. Yeah. So, I get it. So, Jay's on the last podcast that we did, Colossians. Yeah. We, dad talked about, remember you did the thing about the names,
Starting point is 00:16:49 the different names out of the first couple of verses. Yep. We went through that. Yeah. So one of them. The bedrock is laid down at all these epistles before he gets in of what he's going to talk to him about. The gospel is centerpiece.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Right. Well, what we do? We did saints, holy people, faithful, disciples, followers. So that was some of them. And then there was another one that dad brought up. And so I've got an update. So I made myself a note this weekend.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Remember Dad talked about ambassadors, which we got from St. Corinthian. And Brethren was another. So you and I posited a theory about, you said something about Ambassador Reels. Oh, did you look into that? So I looked into it. Okay. I looked into an ambassador.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Making news, Al, has done some research. Yeah, breaking news. They're a little research. And this really was interesting to me. Have we taken a break yet? Yeah, we did. Okay. So ambassador, the English word, which is spelled A-M-B-A-S-A-D-O-R, but the ambassador real is actually the French spelling, same word, but French, which ends in D-E-U-R.
Starting point is 00:17:59 That's the ambassador. Ambassador. Ambassador. So, which the word, catch this judge, the word, the French word means a man on a mission. Are you kidding me? That's what it means. Ambassador. A man on a mission.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Doing some fishing. So doing some fishing. There you go. There's your mind. So this, did you know that Ambassador Reels are made by a Swedish company? I didn't know that. I didn't either. I just always assumed they were built in the U.S. or not.
Starting point is 00:18:29 The company was founded in 1921. So it's over 100 years old. And it originally, they manufactured pocket watches, telephone timers, whatever, that means, and taxi meters. Telephone timers. Telephone timers. What is that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I don't know either. But they were building them in 1921. So this man named Borgstrom is the founder of this, and it was a watchmaking factory. So World War II comes along, and all of a sudden the demand goes down because the war is going on for what he was manufacturing. So he turned, he was such a engineer, he started making fishing reels. and the first one was made in 1941. Five years before you were born, Dad. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And it's called the Abu Garcia Fishing Rail. The first Ambassador Reel. I remember them. The first Ambassador Reel was 1952. I'll have some of them. Yeah. Yep. And they unveiled it at the New York World's Fair in 1954.
Starting point is 00:19:33 You made your cask, and to keep it from backlash, and you had applied just a little bit of pressure on it with you. thumb because it was a closed face we called them you know open face was you'd open it up this way and then throw it and it would come off the click bell right you had come off it come off come off like this like like like a like wire coming out of a yeah if you didn't if you didn't keep a little pressure the ambassador the whole thing turned there it was like on a drum yeah and you'd thumb it a little bit to just feather it and you could loosen it up a little bit but we like the ambassador to reels. We all got us one. Well, you remember they were very precision reels. I guess
Starting point is 00:20:15 they still are. Very much so. So I'm sure people that do a lot of fishing, this is not news to you. They didn't tear up easily. No. They were well built. Swedish engineering. Well, you know. Watchmakers is where it all started. But I did like that, Jason. I thought you liked that. A man
Starting point is 00:20:31 on a mission. I love it. Which is pretty good. Which is what we were talking about ambassador. I looked it up in encyclopedia. It said an ambassador. It had several words there, but one of them was messenger. messenger from someone else from higher authority. You were a messenger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And with us, we have the ministry through that label of reconciliation to God. Reality is found in Christ. We're showing them reality. That's Colossians 2, verse 17, that's which is a great verse. I did a little word study on reality, and that's quite interesting. on Jesus himself being the only reality there is. There's the creator in a human form. And all these, the way the Apostle Paul did it,
Starting point is 00:21:22 don't let anyone judge you about what you eat or drink. People get into this food stuff like they do under the law of Moses. Or with regard to a religious festival, a new moon celebration, Sabbath day, they were finding things to celebrate that didn't amount to a hill of beans. because he said, look, the reality is found in Jesus, who he is, what he's done, what he's now doing, what he will do. You need to keep that focus. Don't get off on all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:50 You know, one day is more sacred than another day. Don't do that. Well, like we don't have enough. But America, America still does it to this day. Like we don't have enough dividing stuff. I'm trying to figure out what this telephone timer was. The only thing I found was an hourglass hooked up on the telephone. That can be.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It's three minutes. Well, it was from 1921, so whatever it was, we're not even have that anymore. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm not sure what that is. Somebody is an unashamed nationals. I'm seeing a lot of hourglass phones. Really? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Telephone. But that doesn't seem like it takes a lot of engineering from that. Well, and some of them, now some of them don't have the hourglass, but they're timers. You know how you just click like a, basically the stock. stopwatch. That was back in the deal. That was in my age, pre-computer. Well, you can't remember what a telephone timer was?
Starting point is 00:22:47 I mean, you never heard that phrase. Did you dial it back? I mean, you know, click it. I wonder if it's because you... Everything was a party line, and if someone called you, eight other households were listening to that conversation because they didn't have that out of wire. We had that out here.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Oh, yeah. Remember? Yeah. Because I'd pick up the phone. and the Hudson's would be on there. And then usually they would yell at me, you know, yell at us. They're like, especially the women, get out of the phone. Because we were kids.
Starting point is 00:23:19 So, you know, you do what you were told. But I was like, you know, how am I going to know? You pick the only way you can know. And then if you picked it up more than, you know, to check again and see, oh, they got hot. A lot of this stuff has little stopwatches and it says you could time your telephone call. Like here's a vintage thing that says a vintage timer from way back in the days of timed telephone calls. Because you probably paid for it by the time, don't you think?
Starting point is 00:23:45 They get something along those lines. Sure, that's how they did it at first. You get to get them off the phone. When's the last time you, uh, hang on, let's take a break? When's the last time you saw a pay phone somewhere? Oh. Have you seen one anyway? I haven't seen one in.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Now, where would I be that I would even see? Personally, personally, just one man speaking, I think everything was much better in my opinion as far as spiritual matters go out I think maybe the the old days 40s 50s pre-computer I think life was more simple and I think there was I think I think I miss that yeah I'm still there basically you never left I never left I just said I'm sticking with the simple here you know if you want to talk to somebody well yes what do you have to say okay make it short because I don't want to sit there, just run on and on and on.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Tell me what you want, what you need, what's the reason for the phone call. Tell me, ask me, and then hang it out. According to most book, movie, and television series, it's all going to go back to there when there's a massive reset when everything collapses. So that's the predictions out there. So the old days may come right on back. I've been warning them for years, a good decade. I'm telling you, if we just keep at this current pace with the debt doing what it's doing and all that,
Starting point is 00:25:19 you finally, your money's not going to be worth anything. Well, I will say that your parents and you taught us a certain skill set that if it ever got to those in our lifetime, I think we could make do from the land. Yep. You know, I think we could survive. What's it really worth anyway in the grand scheme of things? Well, right. It's just a little much.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That's why we're... Tech is just a little bit much. I mean, we're in Colossians. He's not getting into a whole lot of those issues because, I mean, the point is, you have a relationship with the career to the universe. He starts talking about, when he's talking about riches, it's an inheritance for the saints in verse 12. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, that's where we left out. This is beyond your capacity to understand. understand. I mean, this is... Biblically speaking, I feel good about my position. Since you died with Christ, Colossan 220, to the basic principles of this
Starting point is 00:26:24 world. Now, that's a mouthful. You said, the way the world runs and all the sin and all the marching and hollering and hooping, wise though you still belong to it, do you submit to it, the world's rules?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Don't handle this, do not taste, do not tell where there are more things going around about don't do this don't touch that you can't do that yeah yeah yeah it just goes on and on and on all these regulations have an appearance of wisdom with their self-imposed worship false humility and harsh treatment of the body but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence there's something to be said there i think i think i know what he's saying just keep life simple. Just keep it simple. Yeah, well, I mean, for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And you don't live in fear like so many people do in the world. And there's no immortality tied to all that. It's just a big bunch of, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think his point was, which speaking of simple points, because I look back at the first chapter where we're at, and you're like, well, why is he writing this? I mean, he thanked him. He was, it's kind of like, you know, you do in any situation.
Starting point is 00:27:45 If you want to encourage somebody or you want to challenge somebody or holding them account them, no matter what you want to do, you want to start off being positive. So, you know, you're like, look, I really love you. You got a lot of faith and hope and what I've heard about all these things. Now, when he gets to, and he said, and I'm praying for you, which I can mean, I'm praying for you, but it also means there's something to be praying about. I like the way he put it, though, from when I first met you, I haven't stopped praying for you. Since the day you heard it.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That's right. I'm talking about the gospel. Bad Rock. That I've been praying about this. So you're right, Jay. It shows you his concern. He was concerned, and I'm not making light of it. I'm just saying the next time somebody says they're praying for you, they might have sniffed out your, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:37 you got something you need to focus on and change. Because he says in verse 10, which I think is the point of why he's writing, he says, we pray this in order that you may live a life worthy of the Lord and may please him in every way. Yep. I mean, that's just the simple truth. All this stuff was written, and they had people trying to promote the basic principles of the world and the worship of angels.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's still going on. Yeah. and worshipping other gods that were not the true God. And so, but he says, look, I'm just trying to get you to live a life, worthy of the Lord, pleasing them in every way. So then he, the section where two, he introduces, it's almost like a song or a pause. That's the way I looked at it like a soul. In Colossians 115 through, really through,
Starting point is 00:29:37 We're really all the way through 2-5, because that next section, but especially 15 through 23. It's like a, whoa. I mean, to me, there's a couple of other passages that come to mind like this, Philippians 2-5 through the end of the chapter there. Same way. That's, you know, we're the one that says Jesus humbled himself and became obedient. And it ends up saying that every knee shall bow. So, and John one, the same thing. It's this image of Jesus being portrayed in a powerful way.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Romans 5 through 8, same thing. Yeah. And so you got to have this one in the top five because a lot of people, I mean, we already introduced this, but when you think about what is so different from Jesus than every other religious leader or every other person? And it really comes down to that him saying there's a God and I'm him. I'm the, I mean, here Paul says he is the image of the invisible God. Right. But it's more complicated, I guess, than it's just him.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Because there's been multiple people claim there's some sort of God. But he's, I have a father. there's a spirit, I became flesh for you. I mean, that's what he's portraying. So what he does in this section, Jace to your point, and I viewed it like a song too. It's funny you had that same image added too. The first three verses are the couple of verses are the heavenly dominion.
Starting point is 00:31:23 In other words, before he got here, and then you've got the earthly domain, and once he got here, and then you've got our response to it. I mean, that's kind of the song. It's like a song in three verses for this section. is the way I kind of broke it down. I broke down the word reality from the little text that I mentioned earlier. These are a shadow of the things that were to come, everything that's happened in the past.
Starting point is 00:31:48 However, the reality, however, is found in Christ. I looked at that word reality. What is real. acknowledging the facts about something and thus dispelling unrealistic notions. In other words, the things you get out of the world, it's not real because it doesn't deal with sin or death. You know what I'm saying? Or if some kind of teaching does not deal with sin, you'll just see more of it. and if the resurrection of the dead, immortality,
Starting point is 00:32:31 you have to study enough of the scriptures to realize it's a reality. The resurrection of the dead, it's a reality. It can actually happen. Jesus proved, look, I'm going to show you something here. I'm going to live beyond death. Well, there's no one ever that can make that claim. No one. Nope.
Starting point is 00:32:53 and he pulled it off. So I'm reading it 2,000 years later, I don't think I'm going to get out of here unless I go with this person right here. I don't think I'm going to get out of here. I mean, it's stone. Hang on, let's take a break. To me, he gives 12 things in a row
Starting point is 00:33:19 that you think about Jesus. So if you're considering living a life worthy of the Lord, which all that means is surrendering to him, saying this again it's not your ability to do it it's your response to it exactly you got he's the image of the invisible god that's 15 a you got the first born over of all creation 15b we need to talk about that what y'all think that means uh third the one by whom all things were created that's in 16 17 the one who is before all things 17 b the one who hold who whole all things together.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Sustainer. 18, the head of the body. 18B, the beginning. 18C, the first born from the dead. I'll talk about that. The one who has the preeminence, that's the last part of 18. You get to 19.
Starting point is 00:34:18 All the fullness dwells in him. And his resurrection was not like Lazarus' resurrection. and the ones you saw pre-Jesus. Well, we'll get into that. They died again. Right. Exactly. But he didn't.
Starting point is 00:34:36 He won't. Yeah, look, those two things, I mean, we're just spitting these things out. Well, just to finish my list, before we start talking them individually. In 20, he has chosen to reconcile all things to him. And in the second part of 20, he's made peace through his blood on the cross. So there's 12 things he either did or is that separates him as Lord. Right. So because a lot of people are like, well, why Jesus?
Starting point is 00:35:07 Y'all just, well, deal with those 12 things. I mean, and have some answers for those issues. And if you can't come up with anybody or anything, I mean, it's not just like it's some made-up guy. I mean, when you look at this list of things, these are some, these are, these are quite the boasts. It's quite the resume. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:34 You start saying, I am the beginning. Everybody has a resume. I've never run up on one with this resume. I'll tell you that. Now, what I like to do, because I'm a simple man, and I've said these three questions many times, because you find those questions here, which is the how did you get on the earth,
Starting point is 00:35:56 What are you doing here and how are you leaving? Those are three that I think the three basic questions of humanity. Well, in this paragraph, you see them. When you see a verse 16, it says, for by him, all things were created. No, I missed it. What was this for him and by him? Yeah, yeah, it's 16, right. For by him, all things were created, things in heaven and earth, visible and invisible,
Starting point is 00:36:26 Thrones, powers, rulers, authorities, all things, this is the phrase I was trying to get to you, all things were created by him and for him. Now, that just answered two questions. How did I get here? All things were created by him, and John One says the same thing. And for him. So what am I doing here? I'm here for him to represent him, which goes back to your ambassador.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Right. And so then the third one, how are you? leaving, well, that's when you get down into the resurrection where he says he's the firstborn from among the dead. So there's your three questions right here in a nice little bow. The hardest one of those is that by him and for him. While you're there, that's why when you finally get over to chapter 2 and verse 17, the reality, because what people fail to realize, is that when they go to the funeral of their loved ones,
Starting point is 00:37:30 reality is right in front of them. Death is reality. People die of a host of things. But death is one of the big ones because when you go to a funeral, you say you are looking at the reality of the world. And the one, if you don't know him, that has conquered that, the resurrection of the dead. We all die.
Starting point is 00:37:58 It's a sad time when people say we lost them, they passed away, death is all around you, it can happen just in a millisecond. You know, you're sitting in church having a meal, and somebody bursts through the door or somebody just stands up and starts shooting people around them. You're like, reality, reality. Well, think about what he claimed here. In 16, he said that whether thrones,
Starting point is 00:38:25 Or, because you think, what is Thrones? Empires. One of the, one of the, the biggest shows people ever watched was that game of thrones, you know, this power and kings. Well, whether it's thrones, powers, rulers, or authorities. Now, is there any other power you can think of? maybe death and he addresses that in the next verse
Starting point is 00:38:58 he was the first born from among the death because death is a power so that in everything he might have the supremacy so he's claiming Paul he wants you to live
Starting point is 00:39:14 a life worthy of the Lord why because he is above all thrones powers rulers, authorities, and death. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Is there anything else left? Nothing. No. Complete. I just think that's quite a statement. When you stop and think about it, it's like, whoa. That word fullness, that's where that comes to mind. It's because it's all fulfilled in him, everything.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Everything the scripture pointed to, all the law, all the prophecy, everything in Jesus. Let's take our last break. I was thinking, as you mentioned John 1 and several other passages, and I thought a Hebrews one, because the Hebrew writer, it's almost the exact same languaging here. It says, in the past, 1-1, in the past, God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets in many times in various ways, but in these last days, he has spoken to us by his son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the,
Starting point is 00:40:27 universe. Same idea. It was made for him and by him. The sun is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited as superior to theirs. That's why in Romans too, the way he words it, is that every human being, you're storing up wrath if you're stubborn and unrepentant. You're storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath when his righteous judgment will be revealed. He's preparing you to tell you the only way out of that. God will give to each person according to what he's done. You say good or evil. There's still judgment coming.
Starting point is 00:41:23 those who with persistence in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, he'll give eternal life. That's what's riding on all this. Same thing in Colossus. But for those who are self-seeking, there's a mighty throng of them that are out there, and who reject the truth. There's the gospel, the bedrock of your salvation, and follow evil. There's going to be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil. first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
Starting point is 00:41:56 But peace, glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. God doesn't show favoritism. That's the way he worded it going into writing to the Romans. They have a tremendous empire, and he writes to them and tells them this. He says, your life is in the hands of the one who's become flesh. Died is buried and raised from the dead. That is played out in every one of these epistles over in the life. over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But not only that, it's, you know, he gets so deep here when it says in verse 19, it says, for God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him. He reiterates that in chapter 2 and 9 when it says, in Christ, all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form. That's why he's the image of the invisible God. But they all live there together. But then it says, and through him to reconcile him to, himself, all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven. That's where you get the
Starting point is 00:42:59 statement of he is where heaven and earth meet. He's the bridge. And he's not another lofty statement. He's not just a representative of two realms. He's the best of two realms. Oh, yeah. He's the best in the heavenly realm and he's the best of the earth. Which is why it says he made peace through his blood shed on a cross. So which the inference there is, we're at war with him because of our sin. Yep. He made peace. We didn't.
Starting point is 00:43:29 That's right. We were alienated from God. That's in 21. We did that, not him. When we were born, we were perfectly fine. And then what happened? We removed ourselves from the holiness of God. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It's called sin. Then we were enemies in our minds. minds because of our evil behavior. Lots of that going on. What we write off is just, man, I cannot figure out what is wrong with these junior high and these teenagers. Well, you become an enemy at that point. We all do it. Right. You see it in their attitude, and there's an independence that's developing, and you're warring with your creator. Yep. And just like we did, and just like people continue to do, We alienate ourselves. But you look at all this good news, and you see the building blocks to forgiveness,
Starting point is 00:44:30 grace, justification, and redemption through this reconciliation process. You say it all starts with forgiveness, because there's that peace on the cross, and that leads to understanding what grace is, which is basically God's love for us without our, merits. I mean, this, that's why I think Paul was, kind of choose this day on whom you're going to adhere to choose this day whether to be God or the evil one. Well, I think it's why he first set him up above all powers because he's above human power because your power can't produce forgiveness, grace, justification. Once you make a mistake, it was made. You,
Starting point is 00:45:19 deal with it. And he's like, I'm going to make peace through shedding my blood because we know all this stuff chuckles down. The reason I'm able to forgive is because I understand God's forgiveness. I mean, the reason I can show grace to people is I understand God's grace. And I mean, people can have small samples of this. But if you want to complete transformation, that God's grace, it then teaches me to do these things that are good. That was his setup. And then the justification is him saying you're not guilty, even though you're guilty.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I mean, that's pretty powerful. And then you get to redemption, which is then the freedom, which is what everybody's looking for. People just want to be free. Right. But that truly is how you're free from yourself and your sin and from death
Starting point is 00:46:14 because of what he did here. Yeah, and people have a hard time understanding justification, but really it's a pretty simple concept. If somebody you know broke the law and they got a fine and then they had to pay that fine or they were going to get in trouble, go to jail, whatever, and you went down in the courthouse and said, you know what, I'm going to pay your fine for you.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Just out of the goodness of my heart, I'm going to extend you some grace because I know you don't have any money. Yep. Then you would be in a wrong. right relationship with the state of Louisiana. Well, that's exactly what Jesus did for us. That is correct. That was a fine for our sin, and he paid it. The wages of sin. The wages of sin is death. That's what you earn. Yep. But he says, I'll pay it by my own death. Yep. Because I'm the exact representation of God. What's even more interesting, Jace, is you're the Holy Spirit, the return for
Starting point is 00:47:09 us, the deposit when he left is, I'm going to put a little bit of that. And, you're, you're, you're, the Holy Spirit. I'm going to put a little bit of that. each and every one of you. Yep. So you'll have a glimpse of what it's like. Imperishable seed. Exactly. Given to us as a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance. What's to come.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Us to come. Which is really powerful when you look at this whole thing about the Godhead from the beginning to now. Oh, it's by far the greatest story ever told. Well, and it wasn't like he didn't predicted. I thought about the Isaiah 9, 6, when he was predicting Jesus coming to earth. You know, he said he will be called wonder. counselor, mighty God, everlasting father, prince of peace.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Because a lot of people have trouble wrapping their head that in Jesus, the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form. Right. But you also remember in Matthew 1.23 when they call him Emmanuel, which means what? God is with us. I mean, he brought his counseling abilities, the Holy Spirit. He's bringing this mighty father. he's the prince of peace he's making peace he's bringing people back to god but he's bringing everything
Starting point is 00:48:18 back to god i mean that was the plan all along it's just a matter of your response to it i mean there's nothing changed since he wrote this letter no i mean the the false teaching might have changed the uh the distractions on earth has changed but it's the same sin it's the same war with God and it's the same grace offered. You're exactly right. It made me think of Hebrews 10, but I'll read that in the overtime. We're out of time.
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